dark tidings (Darktide for people in the searchbar)

[west mantle]

was me, sorry

swapping to WITCH

[drowsy vine]

[marsh gyro]

Great run for the grimperor, gotta break for now

@drowsy vine What blessings do you run on the Gorgonum stubber?

[drowsy vine]

Blaze Away/Deathspitter

[dawn totem]

Finally got a swag new penance top for my Ogryn. Working on the pants next.

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> tide time

[split mantle]

tide tide

actually we need breakfast, feel free to start without us

[split mantle]

zangief,,, 2!!!!!!!

[marsh gyro]

Super Tide Fighter 2 Turbo

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> tide time the second time

[split mantle]

tide tide,,,, 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[foggy latch]

I frew up this morning but I'm feeling better and may join in a few

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878> thrice tide

[west mantle]

Got my doctor's appointment

Or I would love to

[gentle flame]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

Uhh

One of these is not like the other

[heavy geyser]

stick with that guy

[gentle flame]

Yeah, he was crazy

He was using my version of the surge surge build

Complaining about the same issue I've been having with Warp unbound (post update)

But i'd almost say he was cheating. Had a macro to perform quell canceling between primary staff attacks

so he shot orbs at like 300% fire rate

[marsh gyro]

Macros and orbs? It's morbin' time

[marsh gyro]

Big shoutout to Sunder + Thrust blessing on Power Sword, +80% heavy attack damage is a winner

[frank igloo]

Oh?

What build

[marsh gyro]

I'll do a writeup on the tree when back at the computer, had to really try a few configurations to guarantee one shots on ragers and two-shots on Maulers and Crushers, the secret sauce is middle tree mark target, middle rending node, left tree weak spot damage, deadshot, 25% ammo, braced revolver with Hand Cannon Crucian Roulette for day to day and shout/shredders/super boxes/double nades for general mayhem
Edit: Here's the writeup!
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d335aa7-a2a0-43b1-9ab3-99d8a877be82/rooty-tooty-shouty-sunder-shooty

[marsh gyro]

This set of Steam guides is pretty neat because the user went into the code to match the debuff names to the blessings and perks - lots of interesting blessing and perk info in there.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Notably in terms of knowledge nuggets I picked up, Lethal proximity on Bolt Pistols makes your grenade and power maul explosions bigger, Penetrating Flame on Inferno Staff/Flamer is a separate Brittleness debuff from normal brittleness so it stacks, and Armourbane on Helbores actually does 8 to 12 brittleness stacks at rank 4

[brazen fossil]

Damn that's pretty huge for penetrating flame actually

[marsh gyro]

The Veteran right side brittleness on melee crit (Exploit Weakness) is a 3rd source of brittleness too so it's actually really good for softening things up when comboed with a Thunderous brittleness melee weapon

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> goo mornin its dark type videogame time

[tough compass]

I actually hate all of this lmao

Though I guess I mostly pick talents on vibes so I can't really complain

[marsh gyro]

Most of them work as advertised now so you're pretty much good to go

[brazen fossil]

<@&1042950387478560878> yo, anyone wanna do some runs ?

[dull parrot]

controversial opinion but I enjoy darktide more than vermintide 2, vermintide is showing its age tbh

[dull parrot]

I think I played with this guy same skin any everything lol

[grave talon]

is there a way to reset mastery point ?

[dull parrot]

Yes I believe you got to the mastery talent tree and press E or left click on a singel slected node

[grave talon]

I meant weapon mastery sorry

[dull parrot]

no 😦

[grave talon]

qo i need to by a new version of the weapon and redo my mastery then ?

[brazen fossil]

no

[grave talon]

ho...

[heavy geyser]

There's nothing to redo, once you have everything you can make anything.

[tough compass]

Mastery points are per weapon type and across accounts. Once you hit max mastery for a given weapon type, you get everything for it (notably, all the tier 4 blessings)

It is annoying if you misclick when adding blessing points to blessings, but it's not a big deal

[dawn totem]

These new Masteries and Talent Trees have got me reworking my Psyker Builds. I was happy with a an Assail build with a Quickdraw and Saber, but now I feel like changing it up.

I've already switched out Scri Gaze for the bubble shield.

[heavy geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1734id8/psa_laspistol_has_a_unique_shove_for_psyker/

[tough compass]

It's ridiculously strong

And very weird they it is only on the laspistol

[drowsy tusk]

the laspistol had a psyker only shove for a while |(maybe since launch?)

[marsh gyro]

It used to be useful to stay at high peril as a gun psyker before this patch added the peril on reload talent

[shrewd kite]

if it can't push you over 100 it's probably still worth playing around high peril with the talent imo

do any actual guns have a -peril talent with the psyker like the force swords do? That would be real useful as a way to manage scrier's gaze

[spiral badger]

no

because psyker has no unique guns and all blessings are shared

only staves have a ranged weapon peril reduction

and not every staff

[dull parrot]

I wonder what they're going to add for darktide something has to be cooking...right especially after vermintide 2 verses mode is finished

[mortal crystal]

They've been teasing Genestealer Cult for years

and a second Hive City

[dull parrot]

yeah and with the 53 thrd here I wonder what its going to look like

[sacred pagoda]

Put in Khorne cultists!

[dull parrot]

They should put in actual nurgle demons (which would be the easiest thing for them to do tbh) but at that point the steel wouldn’t be worth it lol 😂

[marsh gyro]

Where does a Nurgling fall on the threat level compared to a beastie of Nurgle?

[brazen fossil]

Much, much lower

[heavy geyser]

When they were teasing the Carnival I thought Slaanesh was coming

[brazen fossil]

No devs are brave enough for slaanesh

[dull parrot]

You know what its possible considering that Slannesh is getting a range refresh 😂 ... but yeah its a LOT

[marsh gyro]

Blaze Away on the Ogryn grenade gauntlet is weird - it gives you up to 5 stacks for continuous fire of +8% strength on a 4 round magazine

Then I found out it ticks up on melee attacks and it's actually a punchy blessing

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> tide tide

[spiral badger]

Try this also with the kickback and the bleed talent for heavy attacks

Kickback alt fire counts as heavy

[marsh gyro]

Blaze Away and Pierce it is

[spiral badger]

A friend who likes using it for funsies calls it the Slapback

[tough compass]

<@&1042950387478560878> Do people want to tide?

[west mantle]

T^T

[tough compass]

I don't know how to interpret that emoji lol

[west mantle]

I have work :(

[sacred pagoda]

😭

This basically.

[tough compass]

Ah, the caret confused me

[west mantle]

It's the little pouty mouth

[tough compass]

Ok, so not a snooty nose lol

[west mantle]

lol

[sonic elbow]

funny, vermintide specifically patched that out

[foggy latch]

why the fuck does veteran never get anything cool

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g0eiv3/commodores_vestures_of_october_10th_november_21st/#lightbox

please just give me more flak and carapace suits stop giving me hodgepodge jackets

[finite nymph]

Veteran got one cool coat and since then it has been eh

But also they might not wanna go too armored? Darktide loves the grunge

[foggy latch]

they give the zealot plate armor every other rotation

i want carapace >:(

give me 3rd edition stormtroopers fatshark

[finite nymph]

Maybe they're trying to cut down on the 'sorry Vet thought you were an enemy'

[foggy latch]

get a squad with a zealot dripped out like a crusader and 3 stormtroopers and you're living the true inquisitorial strike team fantasy

[finite nymph]

Though Zealot has the same problem with some fits

[foggy latch]

these are the Veteran fantasies

stormtroopers and kasrkin

[brazen fossil]

I just want a belt fed gun

[marsh gyro]

Extra rations all around

[dawn totem]

I like to mix and match my wardrobe to get the right feel for my builds.
With my Vet, I like to keep some form of the mech a constant and build off that.

With my Psyker I'm all about the full masks that either just show off just the hair or the eyes.

That being said, I do wish there was a more diverse Psyker wardrobe.

[marsh gyro]

The big shoulders Psyker chestpieces are fun

[dawn totem]

Oh very. Especially if you picked the "cop Psyker," voice.

I've already got a plan to get the real nice dark chest pieces from Penances and mesh it with a purchased hood that looks nice.

So far I'm real happy with my Vet's costuming. I'm still tooling around with the my sharpshooter build though.

[drowsy tusk]

Why won’t shat fark give me power fist

[marsh gyro]

I've got about six Veteran builds I'm happy with and two more I'm fiddling with so the five loadout slot restriction gets filled up fast haha

[dawn totem]

So far I've got three of each class. But that might expand as I'm getting used to new weapon builds.

I was trying to do a kind of Soul fire Assail Psyker build but it's not working out as well.

[foggy latch]

i want to level my zealot for the sake of penance points

but also veteran fun

[marsh gyro]

What were you running on melee?

Inferno staff is a little weird too because the stacks scale nonlinearly and getting an 77-80% burn rating staff lets you get 15 burn stacks instead of 14 and that's a big jump in damage

[dawn totem]

I'm using a Force sword where I have a 20% crit chance per dodge and a Soul fire on Crit hit.

This Psych build is more nimbly

[marsh gyro]

Oh yeah the melee blazing spirit goes up to 12 stacks and the ranged blazing spirit only goes to 6 stacks

[dawn totem]

If that's the case I can stick with melee soulblaze and slightly trick out my Assail Psyker in other fun ways.

[marsh gyro]

Yeah the only gotcha on melee soulblaze is a crit that kills the enemy won't do the soulblaze for wildfire purposes so it's more of a single target thing, does go good with trauma staff blazing spirit or the vent stacks since 6 stacks can kill poxwalkers

[frank igloo]

this is me but zealot vs other classes

[foggy latch]

i want the gloamus armor so much...

but i dont want to play other classes...

[marsh gyro]

Could always cosplay Veteran on Zealot with an Infantry Lasgun and a combat axe

Momentum Zealot is pretty decent at ranged bobbing and weaving

[heavy geyser]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/only-in-death-does-duty-end/99947

[marsh gyro]

Guard cosplay is going good - I have discovered the heavy heavy laspistol can one-shot two maulers with body shots to the back during one shroudfield

[tough compass]

The rogue trader must be so pissed the commissar has decided to station herself on the ship lol

(she definitely has voicelines about how annoyed she is at what the inquisition is asking of her)

[fluid jungle]

<@&1042950387478560878> anyone wanna play

[drowsy tusk]

Off work in 30mins ish

[shrewd kite]

The power scaling is kind of irrevocably fucked at this point tbh. I mean you have rejects killing multiple daemonhosts per mission, which is Grey Knight shit at this point

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> any nerds down to gaym?

[worldly talon]

Not all daemonhosts are created equal

[marsh gyro]

These ones aren't wicked, not, not

[worldly talon]

Considering the DT boss ones still apparently have some personality left I think it’s more on the scale of cult fucking up a minor daemon summoning level than Cherubael level

[sacred pagoda]

What’s the Munitorum code for the Daemon Primarch Mortarion?

[marsh gyro]

Now that I think about it a GK force glaive would be a super cool addition

[sacred pagoda]

“Where did you get that?”
“Found it.”

[covert trellis]

Don't know the phonetic language for wh40k, though I am pretty sure Traxis = T.

Traxis, Persix, 14 ?

Just made something up for P

14 is Mortatrion's legion number

[sacred pagoda]

What Legion is the Death Guard?

Oh. Okay that makes sense to me, then.

[covert trellis]

Boils down to "Traitor Primarch 14"

But could also be "Demon Primarch 14" However I don't know the phonetic language so no idea on what D could be

[sacred pagoda]

Delta?

[heavy geyser]

its all low gothic

[covert trellis]

That is just modern phonetics, maybe "Deimos"

[heavy geyser]

high gothic?

it's fancy

fantasy latin

[spiral badger]

no he'd probably be an Omega code

Omega is Demon Stuff

BoN gets called as Omega Minoris 77

Daemonhost is OMega Minoris 66 or something liek that

based on the darktide codes Traxis means human enemy

[covert trellis]

I think Traxis means Traitor

[spiral badger]

the only exception is pox bombers who get Gamma

for some puzzling reason

[covert trellis]

Gamma = Ganger?

[spiral badger]

yeah but dreg shotgunners and guunners still get Traxis

so it's not that

[covert trellis]

I just looked up a list of the callouts

[spiral badger]

some people also theorize the rising numbers are basically inverse commonality on a battlefield

so snipers are traxis-1, since there's always a fucking sniper

while trappers are traxis-77

becuase why the fuck

[covert trellis]

Intersting that Beast of Nurgle and Poxhounds both have minoris

[spiral badger]

yeah my theory is that sigma= wildlife or animals, and thenn the minoris is because majoris would be like, an ambull or something

similarly BoN is minoris and presumably something like a Bloodthirster would be Majoris

[covert trellis]

Apparently the Shotgunners are not differentiated between Dregs and Scaabs

[spiral badger]

Neither are gunners yeah

Also mutants don't have a code

So it's also possible the real fucked random shit like the appearance of a traitor primarch just don't have anything

Incidentally the funniest one is shotgunners because they're traxis 4 but the loose cannon actively get it wrong

And calls traxis 12

[worldly talon]

Tox Flamers are Deltacron, something

Which agian I only know because of the Loose Cannon

[covert trellis]

Plague Ogryn = Theta -65-Gamma
Chaos Spawn = Praxis-9-Alpha
Beast of Nurgle = Omega-Minoris-77
Daemonhost = Omega-Minoris-??

[worldly talon]

"Deltacron...Urrrgh! THE FLAMEY ONE!"

[covert trellis]

ToxFlamer = Deltacron-8

I think Theta/Praxis/Omega are danger levels and Minoris/Alpha are avoidablity.

[heavy geyser]

the roastie is redeemed

[marsh gyro]

I'm coming around on the Laspistol for Zealot (Momentum backstab bodyshots) and Veteran (15 stack left side weak spot Deadshot crits) so now I gotta figure out a Psyker gunker

[covert trellis]

Anybody down for some darktide?

[heavy geyser]

The laspistol force push builds peril

[covert trellis]

at 12m

long range for a push

[heavy geyser]

Does a laspistol have any cleave on staggered enemies?

[covert trellis]

No I don't think so

[marsh gyro]

Stagger doesn't affect cleave, but Psyker does get the 100% bonus cleave on peril
Edit: my statement was off!

[heavy geyser]

It does!

Staggered enemies have reduced hit mass

[marsh gyro]

Oh that's a neat mechanic

[covert trellis]

It's a very strong push btw, knocks down ragers

[heavy geyser]

You can shove a specialist with the bolt pistol alt fire and the shot will punch through them

[marsh gyro]

So with the 1.5 cleave on the laspistol you can get through scab or dreg shooter mooks by pushing them twice turns out

2.0 cleave on the bolt pistol gets through scab flamers, snipers, bombers on a push yeah, this is revelatory

[heavy geyser]

This game is full of secrets

[sacred pagoda]

Man I hope they never put in Ambulls. They were bad enough in Boltgun.

[wintry plaza]

I would love a vehicle boss fight

Seeing as multiple missions have us defending or reclaiming factories we already have a easy justification for it

[silent egret]

Yall

I decided to start over on a new character

I’ve failed every single mission I’ve done on difficulty 2

Is it normal to fail so hard on the early game with randoms?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah folks are new on threat 2 so they're learning the levels and where to go

[silent egret]

;-; I have penances I wanna complete for the fancy new free armor

[marsh gyro]

It'll come with time, keep at it

[tough compass]

What level were you trying at difficulty 2?

[silent egret]

My new character is lvl 9

[tough compass]

The first time through the game I was pretty conservative on the level vs difficulty bit

[silent egret]

My two original ones are 30

[tough compass]

A part of my wonders if diff 3 would actually be easier lol

[marsh gyro]

Threat 3 isn't too bad at about level 10 yeah

[heavy geyser]

difficulty 3 and 4 is the uncanny valley

3 is where daemonhosts start to spawn

And none of your teammates know how to help you yet.

[tough compass]

I only leveled up when everyone was leveling up, so maybe it is worse now than it used to be

[silent egret]

I know the player base is increasing

More new people

[dull parrot]

Fat shark have a Halloween theme event for darktide... and my cash is yours
\0/

[tough compass]

Every day is Halloween in Tertium currently

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> dard tidt

[west mantle]

I got time for 1 game

[split mantle]

we've got a bit of time

[cloud hazel]

holy shit, nikki sixx from def leppard

[marsh gyro]

I'm thankful to the penance outfits for being able to Zealot up as a Guardsman

[silent egret]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g1v7wq/thanks_you_hadron/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> blood for the emperor! skulls for the golden throne!

[tough compass]

Give me like 5-10 minutes (if you don't get enough prior immediately lol)

[rocky dagger]

7661864114

[worldly talon]

It's here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6MuXsvVU4Y

[plain pendant]

i've been listening to the unofficial gamerip mix of this track. time to rev up the Official one now-

[marsh gyro]

<@&1042950387478560878> Who wants to chillly blast folks and get diamantine?

[tough compass]

I can do a round or two

I'll be 5-10 minutes though if that's ok

[marsh gyro]

Sounds good, the grimperor prevails

[tough compass]

@marsh gyro Ok, I am ready

[heavy geyser]

got a good shove in tonight

[drowsy tusk]

Niccccceeeeeeee

[marsh gyro]

RING OUT

[dawn totem]

Malice High Intensity plays like I insulted the game's mother.

That mode is just designed to wear you out.

[marsh gyro]

Yeah normal mode has some breathers and high intensity is just no downtime

[dawn totem]

My brain can't handle High Intensity. It'll just go into shut down mode because at some point the pressure is just not fun.

[marsh gyro]

Luckily it's an opt in thing since you can preview the board before slamming quick play and if there's high intensity on the table you can select queue for a non-high intensity - it's nice the game lets you have that level of control

[frank igloo]

i cannot relate because high intensity damnation is the only difficulty that is fun to me now lmao

anything else lesser is just a snoozefest

[heavy geyser]

Once you acclimate there's no going back.

I've been helping a friend level up through 2s and 3s and its remarkable how empty the levels are

[spiral badger]

yeah i could basically sleep through a 3. and 4s are in a weird place

both in terms of difficulty and in terms of who plays them

[heavy geyser]

3 and 4 is the uncanny valley of difficulty

5 is easier than 4 because your teammates will actually help you

4 is like, it's mildly spicy but you don't get good teammates you don't bring with you

[spiral badger]

4s with a premade friend group? fun and fairly easy

with randos? a disaster every time

[heavy geyser]

one dog or trapper whiff can spiral the whole thing

[marsh gyro]

Turns out if you take the Psyker electric heavy melees that triggers the 10% smite extra damage taken node while the electrocute proc is active so you can actually be a really effective team debuffer while you're busy stabbing things

[tough compass]

That's... unexpected

[brazen fossil]

Oh, oh

Oh I like that

[marsh gyro]

It even helps you out because anything that takes more than one swing now your stuff is 10% more stabby - I'm trying a Rev it Up / Thunderous Chain Axe

[brazen fossil]

Does the 10% apply to soul blaze ?

It should right?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah should buff all damage - not a bad play for a Shred/Blazing Spirit Force Sword

[brazen fossil]

Yeah

The build is already pretty good

Loads of DPS

So 10% extra sounds great

And it helps allies with elites and monstrosities

[tough compass]

<@&1042950387478560878> Any one want to do a few latenight darktide runs?

[plain pendant]

if i didn't have work in the morn i'd be on that shit

[opaque crown]

So I tried a blaze away/ the other ramping damage boost on the Grenade gauntlet and its still not clicking for me on why I'd want to focus on it for melee

[drowsy vine]

Versatility, generally; GG's melee is quite good at handling hordes and knocking people around, you can complement it with a good single target melee

[opaque crown]

Hmm maybe I need more testing

Just feels... like a versatile melee does all the same work and can block but I can also have a gun that is benefiting from blessings improving its firepower.

[drowsy vine]

I mean, the GG is benefiting from Blaze too, especially if you're swinging it before you shoot

[opaque crown]

What's the prescribed melee pairing? Strikedown pick and folding shovel?

[drowsy vine]

That's probably what I'd go

[drowsy vine]

flamer sweep baby (sebastian is me)

[marsh gyro]

I've been testing it a bunch too and find it's a good complement for the bully club mk1 and the non-foldable shovel - they don't do the best on hordes so the gauntlet can light attack uppercut a billion scabs and poxwalkers. Gauntlet busts ragers and bulwarks really good too (bulwarks get the special punch)

Here's how I was running mine:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3c67ce-bb7b-4d44-b9ac-9be8d3e2c1ab/punch-and-bully-bleed-for-the-gauntlet

[marsh gyro]

Blaze Away/Overpressure?

[drowsy vine]

I forget the names, but it's two of the new ones - the one that spends ammo from reserves on crit and the one that inflicts brittleness on direct hit

Which I think the first one is at least BiS, the uptime is monstrous

The second one really softens up Elites, makes the burn better against them or just helps allies kill them faster

[marsh gyro]

Yeah Penetrating Flame is a huge team wide buff, I run that too

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne!

[gentle flame]

Psyker gamig

[marsh gyro]

Surge lightning staff?

[gentle flame]

Surge Surge SG Crit Aura

+81% Crit rate during SG

[marsh gyro]

Yeah I gave that one a spin myself and it's wild how much more DPS the primaries are if you can land them

[drowsy tusk]

If this isn’t the next level shat fark make I riot

[silent egret]

Goal

Get good at using plasma

[drowsy tusk]

the trick is if you dont right click you wont explode when overheat

[mortal crystal]

Also, Plasma is bugged right now so it's not consistently one shotting stuff.

[drowsy vine]

how so

[mortal crystal]

it's back to the old behavior of counting as hitting a limb even if the torso is right behind it.

Fatshark know about it and are looking for the problem.

[mortal crystal]

This is the same behavior they removed from Bolters with the buff to them for context.

[silent egret]

I could never get like

Consistent damage

Holding the trigger to charge and prepare meant other players could kill a lot faster

[mortal crystal]

Plasma rarely wants to overcharge

Every specialist that isn't a mutant or dog (which you should melee generally) is a one tap with an uncharged shot

I'll overcharge for massive rager balls and armor packs generally

[brazen fossil]

This becomes less of an issue as:

1. you get better at picking which enemy to regular shoot and which to charge shoot
2. the difficulty goes up

[silent egret]

Oh

I’m also on console

The sensitivity default is so slow

[brazen fossil]

My baseline tip for the plasma gun is "fuck the charge"

[brazen fossil]

These are some scary words

I didn't know darktide even had a console version

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah it's on the X Bone and the Station of Play.

[brazen fossil]

Does it have cross play?

[silent egret]

Yeah

I had to up the sensetivity to even get kills when aiming down sights

It's like moving through soup

As such plasma is... Last I remember, it was a huge chore

[sacred pagoda]

I play it with my coworker sometimes and he's got it on Xbox.

[brazen fossil]

Ngl

I completely forgot consoles were still a thing

I'm fuckin stupid y'all

[plain pendant]

this game sometimes

[spiral badger]

fuckin nazis

[plain pendant]

he was a psyker in all black iirc

[cloud hazel]

bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[drowsy vine]

jesus christ

[soft summit]

What's the context? Unfamiliar with the name

[plain pendant]

varg vikernes is a big name in the black metal space, chiefly for being both a nazi and an actual murderer

anyone who still invokes him can either tolerate these aspects or endorses them. neither kind of person is worth fucking w

[soft summit]

Ahq

[brazen fossil]

You missed the arson part

[plain pendant]

and making an rpg that codifies being racist iirc

he's just shit. he's human shit. about the long and short of it

[marsh gyro]

In non-horrible people topics, does anyone know of any YouTube vids or Reddit or forum posts where folks talk about how stagger/impact works?

I'm trying to find the actual effects in the source code and it is big

[dawn totem]

Looks like there's a Darktide mod that shows weapons hanging off the back.

[shrewd kite]

weapon customization enables it by default

you can also change the placement so that eg - you can have a recolver on your hip rather than hanging off your back. no idea if it shows for other players tho

[plain pendant]

is anyone up to tide the dark <@&1042950387478560878>

[opaque crown]

I feel like you can get some wild efficiency with stagger blessings on weapons combo'd with a lightning psyker

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> i have returned from my travels time to tidde

[split mantle]

tide tide

[drowsy tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-slide-crouch-drennt-gif-16208176206711016442

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> weeeheeeeheee darktideee

[crystal sluice]

ogryn swag

[split mantle]

back from interviewing, we can dark a few tides

[drowsy tusk]

yibee

[silent egret]

Something kinda interesting from Brahms speech in the intro

“Every human soul is in the service of the God Emperor”

Implies everyone not is subhuman

[thick rivet]

oh huh

I have two characters maxed

I did not expect this

for context I just reinstalled

[thick rivet]

oh my god the bolt pistol fucks

[plain pendant]

have you tried the bash-shoot combo?

[thick rivet]

I have not lol

mostly because I've forgot what key is bash

anyway uh

bolt pistol eviscerator

makes my gay little bag lady zealot happy

[frank igloo]

one of the blessing should be lethal proximity, gives it really good crowd control

2nd can be whatever as long as it works with your build

i like run n gun when using it with zealot

[thick rivet]

I just got rid of run & gun 3 on mine fuck

I went for using it as an elite popper <XD

[frank igloo]

ye thats fine

the decrease in aim reticle from run n gun does help a fair amount

being able to run forward and shoot is also helpful

[thick rivet]

fairs

[frank igloo]

but lethal prox is prolly the most mandatory blessing on it imo

means you can stagger enemies without needing to kill one

[thick rivet]

I am internally debating whether to switch my crackhead Cadian with a knife Vet from a revolver to a bolt pistol

[frank igloo]

both are good

bolt pistol misses out on pure damage for better crowd control

[heavy geyser]

You can drop lethal prox if you run blades of faith, since you don't really get as much value out of the explosion size with no grenades.

I've been running Puncture / Run & Gun on my crit eviscerator bolt pistol and it's been great. Run & Gun lets you be really maneuverable and plug someone with bleed to get your crit stack rolling on your approach into saw range.

[brazen fossil]

Y'all

Who you be the best for a yeeeee haw build ?

Probably wet right?

[heavy geyser]

I'm not sure what yeehaw does good that zarona doesn't also do.

[brazen fossil]

I'm specifically trying to craft the fan the hammer build

[drowsy vine]

It's fun

[brazen fossil]

Exactly

Doming 5 speciál enemies within a second just hits different

[heavy geyser]

Yeah it is! But so is the Zarona, and it has way more cleave for some reason.

Vet is probably the one, though, for having ways to reload it fast.

[cloud hazel]

imo it's weapon specialist vet since you can swap back and forth between your melee and your hammer and have it autoloaded

[heavy geyser]

Yeah that sounds like the ticket.

Fanning the hammer is fun but you can only do it for five shots before the party is over.

So that's probably the biggest feature you need to plan around.

[drowsy tusk]

Speedload is a often overlooked talent that is pretty sick on a agrippna revolver

[marsh gyro]

Yeah trickshooter speedload is peak "it's high noon"

[split mantle]

Ooh, that's a good point.

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> who out here rejecting they darktide

[dawn totem]

I used to use trickshot with my Assail Psyker. Psy-daggers for the crowds and fanning bullets for the big guys.

Might just go back to that again.

[cyan depot]

https://x.com/lulzyrobot/status/1846689114319450152?s=46&t=RjdIzh2qFuWkjovzBmgCsQ

♠️Lulzy♠️ (@LulzyRobot) on X

I get why, but its always so funny when cosmetics really are just... cosmetic. #DarktideArt

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 11:06 PM

[tough compass]

I'm the grim, darkness of the 41st millennium, gasmasks are purely aesthetic

[heavy geyser]

my respirator has a hose connecting the exhaust port to one of the intake ports

[sacred pagoda]

I just have a balaclava with what appear to be N95 filters built in.

[plain pendant]

oh shit i wasn't expecting to see lulzy's posts in these parts

i haven't seen her art in Ages, good lord. happy to see she's still at it-

[frank igloo]

i mean some of the gasmask descriptions mention they dont work either

[silent egret]

https://youtu.be/fmTvBgNSwy8?si=iVUf2DSm9tjYcJsv

Swagger my man

You have no chance

[soft summit]

Sounds like the leadup to an Invasion

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> bub tub bideo game

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> it goes again! Time to fight some heretics!

[twin wasp]

Ogryn diaries return with two interesting individuals

[soft summit]

byeah

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> a

eloquent

[marsh gyro]

@drowsy tusk You on voice comms?

[drowsy tusk]

i hopped off

i can be bak thoo

[marsh gyro]

Be there in 5

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> videogame darktidee

[brazen fossil]

<@&1042950387478560878> yo, anyone for a brisk game ?

[silent egret]

Fuuck

I can’t do on overwatch at all

My pennance rate is too slow I can’t get the cool cosmetics

I kinda feel like the fact you need to do a ton of penances and difficult ones at that to get good cosmetics is flawed

I wish they were like Helldivers super credits

Did yall ever complete any hard penances with randoms?

[spiral badger]

i got auric storm survivor with randoms lol

and the one for no one downed in an auric malestrom

[silent egret]

Maybe it’s just my lack of mobility on controller

How does the melee veteran penance work? Do you not have to take damage or do you not have to be hit at all?

[spiral badger]

it's no health damage

you can take as much toughness damage as you want

[silent egret]

Ohh

I got smacked by a chaos spawn

[spiral badger]

you can also take non-hit corruption damage, like grim corruption

[silent egret]

I have trouble with turning and reacting fast enough for controller

[spiral badger]

i got it before pox gas so I dunno on that front

[silent egret]

Yeah the spawn hit me and did damage despite my toughness

Is there a reason they made cosmetics so hard to obtain if you don’t spend cash?

[spiral badger]

honestly most of those penances were put in when the game came out

and were not particularly designed with any intent except "haha funny"

see for ref "explde yourself" on psyker

and "rock an eye" on ogryn

[silent egret]

I have no memory how I got the deadeye one

Idk my current drip looks.. fine? It’s nowhere near as good as the store cosmetics

Idk it feels like given the glacial update speed and how Helldivers showed you can do a good game with transactions it’s annoying

[silent egret]

Oh that’s infuriating ngl

I was so close

[cyan depot]

It's a very annoying achievement

[silent egret]

I don't wanna spend real money to not look like a noob with basic armor..

I just want a good gasmask and the penance grind is slow

[brazen fossil]

There's Planty if stuff you can buy with just in game cash or get straight from penances

For overwatch you want a high toughness invis build

It's the easiest way to get it imo

You get a sniper rifle and run from any encounter ever

[marsh gyro]

Yeah they expanded the outfits you can get with just the dockets and they can mix and match decent

[brazen fossil]

Some of the stuff from penances actually looks sick without needing the mainline progression

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> hello its me letter darktide pings, im hear to ping you darktide

[silent egret]

They did?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah there's a few new outfits though they're mostly palette swaps

[marsh gyro]

<@&1042950387478560878> Who wants to do weekend plasteel blasting in 20 minutes at <t:1729382430:F>

[drowsy tusk]

omg me

[marsh gyro]

Caught the Chaos Spawn doing pushups

[crystal sluice]

gotta stay in shape

[grave talon]

what ever that shape might be

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> bonktime?

[drowsy tusk]

Yea gimme a minute

[dawn totem]

It really is kind of hard to specialize an operative in this game.

The best advice I can think of is try to generalize as much as you can and that you really can't totally rely on rando players.

Sorry. I thought I had a really interesting crit focused Vet build but it's not working out.

[marsh gyro]

What kind of talent tree and weapon setup was it?

Surgical Helbores and Headhunter Infantry or Recon Lasguns have amazing ammo economy with Shock Trooper

[mortal crystal]

The best old school vet build I found was when I was doing the Marksman keystone achievement. I forget which Infantry Autogun I used, but at 15 stacks I could reliably one tap headshot gunners and shotgunners.

[drowsy tusk]

v<@&1042950387478560878> hello its me letter darktide ping im here to ping you darktide, it is the end of the letter weekend and i wish to mourn and cause funny ragdolls also i wish to play darktide at this time did i mention darktide??!! anyway in videogame darktide we plahy darktide. ogryn darktide is a funny guy

[sacred pagoda]

I’m not geared enough to keep up with you guys, I don’t think.

[drowsy tusk]

were generally happy to drop difficulty/carry here

[dawn totem]

I keep thinking I could make something out of the Deadeye Talent by boosting Stamina here and there. I've got more a sniper Vet build and I'm seeing if I could concentrate more on Weakspots or Crits.

[crystal sluice]

oh wow the crafting overhaul is pretty big huh

[tough compass]

Yeah

[crystal sluice]

did they release an official guide to it

[tough compass]

It's a lot better. At least we someone who has a bunch of good weapons from before

[marsh gyro]

Oh yeah if that's what you want to do both the bottom left side tree and the bottom middle mark target bring your stamina back on kill so you can chain together turbo crits

[marsh gyro]

Most of it's documented in game - earn mastery points by using weapons in missions or sacrificing green or better weapons to Hadron, the mastery points let you Hadron better and put better blessings on stuff without RNG, Hadron can now level up a gun all the way to 500 with enough mastery (500 means the stats are at the max of their potential), and if you want to change a variant of a gun to a different mark (like a columnus rifle to a Vraks) you can do it with a button in the inventory instead of getting a new gun

[cyan depot]

I honestly haven't really picked up the game since it happened

Seems like a lot of work to relearn haha

[marsh gyro]

The worst part about coming back after the update is just all the clicking to unlock all the blessings across all the weapons since there's not a "unlock them all" single button

[cyan depot]

yeahhh

[dawn totem]

?rank Darktide

[mental phoenix]

That rank doesnt exist.

[drowsy tusk]

darktide rejects

[dawn totem]

?rank darktide rejects

[mental phoenix]

You left Darktide Rejects.

[heavy geyser]

I don't have it on hand but there is an official video

[heavy geyser]

Here it is https://youtu.be/U34qXI5tBjk

[crystal sluice]

sweet thanks

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> it's me, Pom darktide pinger

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> heresy does not sleep! Do you??

[shrewd kite]

I'm actually surprised by how fast the whole system is

Like 2 days using a single weapon is enough to max it out, which earns you all perks across all it's variants

[quiet escarp]

Honestly the biggest pain is unlocking all the way to get the 500 power level unlocked

Because unless you get something sexy from Melk you're at a little disadvantage using sub-400 power guns in damnation matches

It's not huge, depending on the roll, but it's been a bit of a pain in my experience getting my recon las and power sword up on my Vet

Especially as someone who rarely has time for more than one or two matches a day

[opaque crown]

my teammates psyker bubble went inexplicably and impenetrably psychadelic tonight

[opaque crown]

No idea why but it was entertaining

Except that I can't see out of the bubble

Or through it

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> playing a few matches after class, anyone down to join?

[twin wasp]

i just woke up let me get some tea and ill be there

[cyan depot]

Looks sick ngl

[crystal sluice]

playing darktide again for the last two days im already really fond of this new weapon progression system

[marsh gyro]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-51-1-5-4-patch-notes/100341

6 GB hotfix today, fixes the thing with the always on AMD frame generation thing, fixes a few bugs including no text chat in a mission, and most importantly now lets plasma guns fire through bulwark shields again

[crystal sluice]

maxed out my evisercator today 💪

[marsh gyro]

The Eviscerator is wild fun

[crystal sluice]

not too fond of the mk XV tho

[marsh gyro]

It's good for tired gaming where you left click over and over again; I like the old Mk3 eviscerator better for whiffing less

[crystal sluice]

yea

i get that it's like a more crowd oriented one but the mkIII crowd control combo is ingrained in my muscle memory thoroughly

[marsh gyro]

There's a weird crowd control combo you can do where you take bloodthirsty blessing and alternate special activations and light attacks into a crowd of mooks to get constant crit headshots since the special attack cleaves through little guys and it's funny more than practical

[opaque crown]

i ran crit build and ended up liking the mk14 for crowd sweeping

rev on heavie was annoying

but

good for intentional overhead revs on single heavier enemies

but

less great for groups

oh

new hotfix lets plasma punch through bulwark shields again

[heavy geyser]

the mk III eviscerator is the cool combo routing variant

the mk XV is the straightforward version

the mk III can do everything if you got a route for it

[opaque crown]

The mk 15 is the executioners sword from vermintide + rev pretty much

Slap extra cleave on there and have a party

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> videogame darktide

[crystal sluice]

video game darktide

[soft summit]

Book darktide

[drowsy tusk]

https://discord.com/channels/426286410496999425/680276268545343575

[split mantle]

dark type video jame,,,,

give us like a hot second but we'll be on

[drowsy tusk]

wahoo

[quiet escarp]

Man I'm having a great time with the a Orestes chainaxe, it feels like it's a little underappreciated

Doubling up on Slaughterer and Headtaker makes hordes a breeze

[marsh gyro]

The heavies are super powerful too

[drowsy vine]

<@&1042950387478560878> lookin for 2 to punch the karnak twins with ashley and I

[gentle flame]

I don't think I ever heard the horde music stop after the first hold

[marsh gyro]

Hi intensity shock troop?

[gentle flame]

Yessir

Ascension Riser too

[marsh gyro]

The middle section after the hold must have been boss filled

[crystal sluice]

what kinda perks and blessings do y'all like for the eviscerator

[spiral badger]

rampage + whatever tbh

i basically slap maniac + flak on everything because those are what you need to chew through most of the time

you could argue carapace if those buggers are giving you trouble

[marsh gyro]

Lotta good competition - Shred + Opportunist for general use, Bloodthirsty + momentum for a mix of single target and crowds, Bloodletter + Rampage to munch hordes

[crystal sluice]

oh i've been running unarmored so i can mulch through hordes ez but i guess that might be overkill

[spiral badger]

it's basically usualy you pick the blessings to make one thing easier and the perks to make thhe other thing easier for the evis

[crystal sluice]

that makes sense

[spiral badger]

rampage cleans up hordes by itself so you can focus blessings on making your revs chew up ragers or maulers

[crystal sluice]

i've been running shred + perfect strike cause i wanna get a crit thing going

[spiral badger]

if you go bloodthirsty you might put unarmored/infested

etc

[marsh gyro]

Yeah this combo's great for charge zealot or fury zealot

[drowsy tusk]

v<@&1042950387478560878> hello its me letter darktide ping im here to ping you darktide, it is the end of the letter weekend and i wish to mourn and cause funny ragdolls also i wish to play darktide at this time did i mention darktide??!! anyway in videogame darktide we plahy darktide. ogryn darktide is a funny guy. a flock of ogryns is called a hongry.

[split mantle]

😭

we need to be a responsible adult™️

[twin wasp]

me may soon soon yes yes musssssst write create text yes must work write to make guilt go away soon soon i may

[drowsy tusk]

lmao

[drowsy tusk]

@azure violet @iron sleet

[twin wasp]

whoa didnt know tzzench was getting involved

[twilit cradle]

s: you feeling alright there, bud?

[split mantle]

you feeling alright there, bud?

theLETTER3 (wegh) ↩️

[(click to see attachment)](#1159883850562932826 message)

[drowsy tusk]

i have no face and i must eat rations

[heavy geyser]

What kind of build are you running?

The eviscerator is great as a crit build weapon, running Shred and your choice of Savage Sweep or Perfect Strike makes it really cook

But that's only if you're running the crit build shell

I've been running Perfect Strike lately and I'm a huge fan of it, compared to Savage Sweep its a little less neatly reliable but you get the ability to cleave through armored packs

Which is super handy against a particularly common couple enemy types who show up in groups and who your sword is prone to clanking off of

[mortal crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294127738774880256/1298739256159899719/Screenshot_20241020_022349_YouTube.png?ex=671aa8b0&is=67195730&hm=39f7d8848540002511ed3d11c57474ca7eb2b678927b8fbb94d71c0ef7040e6d&

[spiral badger]

one of those obviously traitorous noble pricks that sometimes blab over hab dreyko

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878> gaming?

[drowsy tusk]

Gimme 10-15

[plain pendant]

dark type voideo jame :0

[twin wasp]

same here

[gentle flame]

[twin wasp]

im making some food

[opaque crown]

question how might i remove hte darktide role for myself?

[gentle flame]

8485227224

[drowsy tusk]

No escape

[marsh gyro]

#bot-stuff can handle role assignment and unassignment - instructions in the pins there

[gentle flame]

@drowsy tusk @twin wasp

[covert trellis]

https://v.redd.it/nq307pl23uvd1 @drowsy tusk

[drowsy tusk]

Omw

[covert trellis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g9g6cq/my_dogas_a_cartoonhaving_joined_admech/

[west mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> we got gamers?

[grave talon]

Nah sorry i have to pretend i'm working

[marsh gyro]

<@&1042950387478560878> Who wants to gather plasteel on the weekend in about 15 minutes at <t:1729901403:F>

[split mantle]

we're eating dinner rn, but we'll be on later

[split mantle]

@marsh gyro are you still around, or were you waiting for more people?

[plain pendant]

I can tide in a bit if you wouldn't mind it

[drowsy tusk]

I’ll be on in like 30

[pale gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/805880814813970433/1299533929103233104/image.png?ex=671d8cc8&is=671c3b48&hm=538b4a2532d7b1a2a227355f1e695583b178264f4ca68510fa579133c7a84f12&

[marsh gyro]

I updated my Darktide Steam guide on cleave if y'all need a primer on cleave and impact:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3350231553

[crystal sluice]

good guide name

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878> gaming

[drowsy tusk]

Gaming

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> rejects tide dark daktirite rejects tide?

[brazen fossil]

<@&1042950387478560878> anyone for a game ?

[worldly talon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZqECA5-Rx8

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878> gam

[split mantle]

zini has as many prestige levels as petrol does levels 💀

[tough compass]

Those are hidden stats normally right?

Does overlevelling still do something after the item rework?

[marsh gyro]

Yeah that's the true level mod and all it does is vanity measurements

[twin wasp]

<@&1042950387478560878> two more for second squad? ?

[rocky dagger]

7661864114

[twin wasp]

8380195639

[covert trellis]

I thought for a while after 30 (like 10~20 more level) it changed some voice lines to be more comfortable with other rejects

[marsh gyro]

That would be pretty neat, they have a lot of triggers on the voice lines tied to level

[twilit cradle]

@marsh gyro got a slot free again

[marsh gyro]

Whoops, got distracted by mapo tofu - around now for blasting

[split mantle]

<@&1042950387478560878> i wanna kill people

[marsh gyro]

In the bideo james of course

[sacred pagoda]

I can't believe I slept on combat shotguns until now.

[sacred pagoda]

This rules, actually.

[heavy geyser]

they're very fun

[brazen fossil]

<@&1042950387478560878> Hello dakrtide video game ?

[drowsy tusk]

In like 40 minutes I’ll be home from errands

[brazen fossil]

sound good

[sacred pagoda]

I’m looking forward to using the shotgun more.

[marsh gyro]

What's cool about the combat shotguns is they go where you point them

[sacred pagoda]

I like how they kill everything I point them at.

They don’t do anything weird.

[drowsy tusk]

I mean there is some weird with them but it’s subtle generally

[brazen fossil]

waitin

[brazen fossil]

hows it lookin with ya ?

[drowsy tusk]

Just got home, logging on

[drowsy tusk]

v<@&1042950387478560878> hello its me letter darktide ping im here to ping you darktide, it is the end of the letter weekend and i wish to mourn and cause funny ragdolls also i wish to play darktide at this time did i mention darktide??!! anyway in videogame darktide we plahy darktide. ogryn darktide is a funny guy. a flock of ogryns is called a hongry. it could also be called a thunk.

[twin wasp]

BIBLE

[soft summit]

The bibble

[twin wasp]

BAg bagbagbag BAG bagbag BAGBABGBAGBAGBABGABGB

[twin wasp]

gargamell lookin ahh

oging so hard rn

[frank igloo]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/dukanes-journal

[sacred pagoda]

This Commissar has the worst Russian accent I've ever heard.

[spiral badger]

i think they are deliberately trying to make her sound like molotov cocktease

because it's almost the same accent and cadence

[cloud hazel]

oh my fucking god

that's horrifying

[tough compass]

It's the same voice actor as the psychic tube lady I think. And sounds pretty similar

[heavy geyser]

I looked it up because it was so much like Molotov, it's not the same actress.

[sacred pagoda]

What is Cleave?

[heavy geyser]

Cleave is how many guys you can punch through

The long-and-short of it is weapons have a Cleave Budget, and different enemy types have a Cleave Cost. +Cleave blessings increase your cleaving budget.

There's other blessings which reduce something called Hit Mass, which is an enemy's Cleave Cost.

[sacred pagoda]

So it lets me hit more dudes with a swing.

[heavy geyser]

As long as you have value in your Cleave Budget your swings will pass through and hit other guys.

Yeah, that's what that does.

There's nuances to it but to not overcomplicate it, it let you hit more dudes with a swing.

[sacred pagoda]

That's all I need to know, thank you.

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> looking for a forf

[marsh gyro]

I got one in me

[pale gyro]

,my GM put the ascender from darktide in our pathfinder game

just thought I'd share

[heavy geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUdfgAbvMys

[drowsy tusk]

Darktide in like hour and a half perhaps

[marsh gyro]

I'll be down to weekend tide at <t:1730557848:F> and get those contracts in for the Melkperor

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878>

[split mantle]

😭

we would but we're too tired

[drowsy tusk]

take a lil nap ill be on alter

laer

later

[heavy geyser]

Did you ever notice that Bulwarks carry Brunt Specials? Wonder who is making those for them.

[marsh gyro]

We do never get to see Brunt

[foggy latch]

we do

[split mantle]

only briefly, during one of the level-up cutscenes, iwrc, but yea, he's kind of of just back in his little corner

[marsh gyro]

The more you know!

[drowsy tusk]

<@&1042950387478560878> 🧟 🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟

[marsh gyro]

I'll be available to hamsters in about 30 minutes

[frank igloo]

theres a morningstar comm thing where rannick asks morrow where brunt is and morrow says "we dont fucking know"

[warm vault]

Do we ever see the inquisitor?

[frank igloo]

Nope

[heavy geyser]

You can see both Rannick and Zola on the Mourningstar lobby if you have sharp eyes.

I haven't found where Morrow is.

Brunt is defintely gone after the level-up cutscenes, the vox comms talk about it.

And yet, the Bulwarks have Brunt Specials....

[marsh gyro]

I want to know what forge world the moebian 6th mugged to get all those big chain two handed axes the scab maulers use

[heavy geyser]

And why can't Brunt get US some two-handers?

Really makes you think, doesn't it?

[tough compass]

Clearly that is why he is missing

Trying to find where all the two handers went

[quiet escarp]

That's just the thing, they didn't get them from any honest tech priest. They heretically lashed weapons blessed by the Omnissiah to accursed broomsticks in order to make their Frankenstein contraptions

The Father of Machines could never smile on such horrific misappropriation of good and decent one handed weapons

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878>

gaming'

[drowsy tusk]

Gimme like 20 mins feel free to do a mission

[gentle flame]

uhhh

@drowsy tusk

[drowsy tusk]

I’m bad at time estimates

[gentle flame]

Apparently lmao

[drowsy tusk]

@eternal crystal

<@&1042950387478560878> 🧟 🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟🧟

[gentle flame]

[marsh gyro]

To the plasteelmobile

[gentle flame]

Finally fucking got this

[marsh gyro]

The dream is real

[soft summit]

Darktide more like Danktide

[frank igloo]

Dorktide

[wintry plaza]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/tertium-tales-unfinished-business

[soft summit]

Still waiting for the New Boss Event

[frank igloo]

oh one dropped on halloween https://www.playdarktide.com/news/tertium-tales-training-day

[marsh gyro]

New hotfix, the big news on this one besides new event on Nov 7 is they fixed weapon stats not adding to 380 and the weapon stats changing as you empowered, so some of your 500 guns that had 379 stats might go to 490 and you'll get to empower them back up to 500
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-52-1-5-10-patch-notes/100887

They're also adding a difficulty mode in the indeterminate future to go even beyond Auric:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4476108195413098968?l=english

[drowsy tusk]

Imagine if havoc is no change but silent bursters

[frank igloo]

We already have silent bursters tho :P

[tough compass]

A player will have 3 attempts to beat a Havoc Order level before being demoted down one Order level.

I'm not a big fan of this

I don't get why it isn't something like "here is a havoc mission, you can choose a level up to what you've progressed to +1" or something. Maybe it's for matchmaking purposes?

[heavy geyser]

The tide of downquitters must be accounted for

[tough compass]

I'm probably the weird one who rarely plays with randos lol

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878>

[gentle flame]

Auric Maelstrom went kinda nutty

[marsh gyro]

I hope y'all like fighting Beasties of Nurgle because each mission with the special condition up has about 10 of them

[spiral badger]

Bring ya hammers

[sacred pagoda]

Is it just me or are Rippers just kind of... bad?

[marsh gyro]

They have wildly different performance depending if you're a Gungryn or not and if you take Flechette/Cavalcade (better ranged performance on crowds) or any combination of Blaze Away/Fire Frenzy/Can Opener (close range busting) or Terrifying Barrage/Inspiring Barrage (defensive anti-shooter combo)

Each burst of a ripper gun has about as much oomph as a revolver shot so if you aim good in the sweet spot range (12m or less mostly) you can knock out a special or a gunner with one ripper burst

[sacred pagoda]

I think I'll stick with a Kickback, it feels like it meshes better with my mid-to-close fighting.

Also, how exactly does the new mastery system work? I don't think I understand it. I've been operating under the assumption that unlocking a Mastery just gives me that trait as a passive but I don't really know if that's what it does.

[frank igloo]

Mastery unlocks a library of blessings you can switch out in hadron's corner, the level of perks you can switch out, and the max level of a weapon you can empower. It doesn't directly increase that weapon's power

Basically mastery increases the level and power of customization you can do on a weapon

[sacred pagoda]

Oh, that's significantly less useful than I thought it was.

I mean, it still beats the hell out of the old system.

[marsh gyro]

Yeah relying on RNG to get the blessings you like to fill out the stamp collection was way more time intensive than "sign me up for the cool stuff, Hadron"

Melk selling guaranteed 500s at level 30 also makes getting kitted out way easier

[heavy geyser]

You do still need to put the blessings on your weapon

[tough compass]

Time to roll for that one Melk commission

[tough compass]

I feel like Ripper guns are a very acquired taste (I do not like them personally). Also, I think you can't just mash the trigger with them unlike what the lore would suggest lmao

[sacred pagoda]

And being able to pick different marks is really nice too.

[heavy geyser]

That's one of the nicest parts of the update

[sacred pagoda]

My Veteran's been at 30 for a long time and it's a lot simpler to gear up too.

[wintry plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWWPeN3lWG0

cool

[gentle flame]

<@&1042950387478560878> gaming?

[limpid zinc]

finally getting around to makin the godroll knife

buttery

also the new mode being stealth whoops! all monstros is diabolical lmfao

[sacred pagoda]

Man, this game isn't well-optimized, is it?

[marsh gyro]

No, it really isn't - turning off raytracing is a big performance boost

[sacred pagoda]

I started to get hangups and eventually had to hard reboot my computer.

That sounds like a resource drain.

[cloud hazel]

it would not surprise me if there was a memory leak

[sacred pagoda]

I turned that setting off and I'm not getting weird hangups anymore. lmao

[plush basalt]

What counts as a "direct hit" for the flame staff's brittleness blessing?

[plush basalt]

Is it basically just "not ticks from soulblaze"?

[drowsy vine]

yes

whatever the big flame touches

[plush basalt]

Gotcha

That seems pretty useful in softening hard targets up for melee or the rest of your team.

[bleak yarrow]

hey, i need some help doing the "Be the best" penance for the ogryn, is there peeps available?

[soft summit]

https://youtu.be/Djvgs0IsQ2E?si=lSC9n0h2r8cPlmhZ

[split mantle]

There is a memory leak. Our game regularly crashed after 2-3 runs because of it.

threshette (they) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1159883850562932826 message) it would not surprise me if there was a memory leak

[brazen fossil]

Huh I didn't notice it

[marsh gyro]

@covert trellis https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3a9ac5-0399-487a-96da-d7afdf1f36fd/garbage-crusher-clean-up-trash

[sacred pagoda]

Trying to avoid a Daemonhost and I walk around a corner right on top of the fucking thing.

What a load of bullshit.

[wintry plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkjXhwYrdV4

[soft summit]

oh boy, DLC/Major Update?>

[foggy latch]

probably just the update for implementing havoc mode

[heavy geyser]

Someone dropped their doohickey.

[heavy geyser]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Orgustine_Zola

https://tenor.com/yQHf.gif

[soft summit]

what's the implication here

that Zola went somewhere?

[marsh gyro]

That Zola's got a family relationship to Captain Wolfer of the Moebian 6th

[soft summit]

oh

shit

he's her brother huh

[drowsy tusk]

Or father or something yea

[spiral badger]

Thus her obsession with hunting him down

[marsh gyro]

<@&1042950387478560878> Who wants to do chill Beastie of Nurgle blasting with a wee dram of something fiery

[fluid jungle]

I can in like 15 min

[drowsy tusk]

Yeos

[drowsy tusk]

So Toby Longworth is the voice of bodyguard oggy, he also narrates a lot of black library audiobooks, I enjoy this fact

One of my fav books of all time, read by bodyguard ogryn

[fierce marten]

Is this the channel for folks with a darktide problem? Hello i'm Sevens and I can't stop playing stealth knife zealot.

[brazen fossil]

Hmm this is serious

[spiral badger]

try stealth dueling sword zealot

[marsh gyro]

As treatment I recommend 3 CCs of stun grenades and cackling madly as you shimmy around a plague ogryn

[fierce marten]

That's how it started, dueling sword fury of the faithful, dueling sword stealth zealot, stealth knife zealot dumping mobility, and now stealth knife zealot max mobility.

[fierce marten]

I do be running stuns and benediction, my talent points cry on their way to shroudfield

[marsh gyro]

that 20% extra mobility is both 10% more sprint speed for the zoomies and if you dump stat penetration stat you can make up for it with Uncanny Strike or Ruthless Backstab

[fierce marten]

That is exactly what I did with uncanny strike

I see you know the speed struggles

[marsh gyro]

These days I run max mobility on everything where I can and somehow I'm still always lagging behind the team, haha

[fierce marten]

Damn, i'm just always ahead by a bit being on gunner packs, I like looting nearby if the ranged enemies are dead and it looks like the team is fine clearing up the stragglers of the horde.

[brazen fossil]

Mobility is the false prophet

[fierce marten]

If it's the false prophet call me a heretic

[brazen fossil]

Embrace Frontline hammer tank

[fierce marten]

I did think about it after seeing many beasts of nurgle this event

[brazen fossil]

It's what I run nowadays on zealot

[plush basalt]

What happened to the electro staff? It used to be CC, back in the day, then it became high single-target damage and now it... kinda does neither well?

Am I building it wrong?

[fierce marten]

Maybe? I can stunlock most elites and kill them in 2-3 zaps

Crit blessing and LMB spam kills crushers in like 8 hits

It seems like the best elite killer/single target out of all the staffs to me

[plush basalt]

Ah, 3 zaps is okay? It feels quite slow, compared to my buddies shredding them

[fierce marten]

And chaining is just extra

It depends but maulers and ragers I think are just 2 full zaps

[frank igloo]

ive done a recent electric staff build and itll usually 1 shot the nonelite human enemies and need maybe 1-3 shots for elites and specials depending on if you get a crit

[fierce marten]

But LMB kills quicker for single target like armored enemies

[plush basalt]

Okay, gotta use more LMB

[frank igloo]

youd want surge for the double shot on crit i think, if i get the talent mechanics right for that staff

[plush basalt]

So probably Warp Nexus still good, but not Warp Flurry anymore?

[fierce marten]

I'd say replace warp flrry with the blessing for 2 shots on crit

[plush basalt]

that's my staff currently, just maxed the level, gonna max the stats (although those are just nice to have)

[fierce marten]

IT does a ton of damage

And staff has good crit

[plush basalt]

Okay, cool

yeah, with 15-30% extra crit chance plus whatever base and talents, LMB will double-shot quite often

thanks

Presumably then, smite is a good blitz to go with it, rather than BB?

[fierce marten]

Also empowered psionics is great f or smite if you use it cause it kills hordes

Even on auric

Not just stuns but it kills the weakest enemies

[plush basalt]

Thanks!

I poured more crit chance into it, grabbed the +dmg after secondary and smite and empowered psionics

that should make it pretty well rounded

[fierce marten]

It is the pskyer build I use, I think it's strong while self sufficient being able to deal with all threats by themselves

Smite being able to kill entire hordes instead of needing teammates to kill them is a big improvement

Also leaves most elites weak enough to be one shot by LMB electro staff

Incredible for mixed hordes with psykinetic aura, venting shriek, and empyric resolve means you can be smiting back to back without issue as you've got great peril reduction

You often don't even need to manually quell as you'll probably kill lots of elites, witha smite so you should be able to venting shriek after every smite down to around 50% peril, smite again with warp rider and warp nexus deal good damage to kill enough elites hidden in a horde to venting shrieking when you reach 100%

[plush basalt]

Yeah, that was a lot more satisfying

the secondary is now sadly actually secondary, fun as it used to be

but the rest is as you say

[fierce marten]

I use the secondary on the staff often if it's like not a horde, kills quicker than smite and can't be interuppted as easily and faster to charge

But also my aim is awful

I'm sure if you're a headclicker master LMB is just better most of the time you can clearly see your target. I just secondary often unless its 1 enemy or an ogyrn

LMB I often body shot but being able to kill a crusher with 10 LMB clicks with pretty much no resource cost or risk at a range is pretty great

But it's probably the strongest well rounded psyker build at the moment so probably most any playstyle for this build could do well in auric

[heavy geyser]

I had this problem as an eviscerator zealot. The answer I found is: put Run & Gun on your ranged weapon, let your ranged weapon have 80 mobility.

They can't outrun bullets

[fierce marten]

That's me when I tried Veteran, I'm doing infiltrate Melee veteran and uh, that's just stealth zealot with better guns

[marsh gyro]

Run and Gun and Roaring Advance is a combo I highly recommend as a treat on braced autos

[fierce marten]

My answer is max mob knife you can kill them faster than it takes to aim at them as a zealot

Braced with inspiring barrage is pretty great

You're just gun tanking

No need to know silly things like dodging or cover

[heavy geyser]

You don't need to ADS with run & gun, you just put the crosshairs on them and blammo

a bolt pistol is just a box full of tiny charge zealots

[fierce marten]

But yea eviscetator zealot isn't the fastest

[marsh gyro]

Oh dang I got Run n Gun crossed with Hit and Run

Yeah high speed bolt pistol or revolver is super neat

[heavy geyser]

80 mobility bolt pistol is Really Fast

[fierce marten]

I've been seeing heavy evis chorus spam build recently and they clutch hard

[fierce marten]

Not fast enough

I have a need for speed

[marsh gyro]

I think It's possible for Rev it up chainswords to get slightly faster than knife and I'd have to run the numbers

[fierce marten]

Before it used to be early zealot my kills would be taken by gunfire before I could get there but now I am beating the veteran to a kill by getting there faster than their cross hair can move around

[marsh gyro]

The dream

[fierce marten]

Yea I think I specced in on all movement speed buffs with max mob knife and it does make a difference surprisingly to squeeze out that extra movement

An unexpected perk is you can sprint around some enemies faster than they can turn around which helps with backstabs for gunners since you don't need to shove to stagger them to backstab for pious cut throat

But you are the glassiest of cannons

Very high adrenaline playstyle though and I like being the murder gunner packs before they can fire and specialist killing

[drowsy vine]

This isn't exactly true for a lot of reasons but a big one is the sprint damage modifier

[fierce marten]

I havent leveled up veteran all the way yet so I don't know it well

But it seems like the I filtrate you can't spam as much as zealot but it's more support options

And burst damage whereas zealots shroudfield is basically always available every 5 seconds

[marsh gyro]

Oh dang I forgot Veteran still takes more damage on sprint

[fierce marten]

Sliding damage resistance on zealot my beloved

Veteran from what I've played seems like not only safer but stronger than zealot generally, many veteran builds just have good horde clear, elite clear, survivability, and support options at all ranges without compromising much.

I still like the playstyle of zealot more

[drowsy vine]

Vet takes double toughness damage while sprinting, while Zealot actually has straight up iframes during a slide

[fierce marten]

Yea makes sense, veteran can shoot a gunner pack dead quick from a distance so it doesn't need to get close like zealot does

[drowsy vine]

Yeah I don't think that's true at all

Zealot/Vet are well balanced with each other - Vet has a lot of ranged firepower and gas if you make zero mistakes

Vet will crumble the second you fuck up on Damnation when Zealot has like, 5 seperate mechanics to keep its durability engine running hot

[fierce marten]

Veteran has a lot of survivability and get out of jail free talents if they make mistakes though they don't feel like that to me and good in Melee too, not as good as zealot but strong still

[drowsy vine]

Like what?

[spiral badger]

shout, the one that gives you toughness for weak spot hits, weapon spec toughness regen, vet stealth is also a much stronger defensive manuever

[fierce marten]

Double infiltrate for one but it has several 15% toughness on kill nodes

Shout is extremely strong support overshield

[drowsy vine]

Vet doesn't have a thammer

So

[fierce marten]

Spammable too

[spiral badger]

the difference is that vet generally either has to kill specific things or have a specific option or their defense option is to disengage

versus zealot whose response is often Double Down

[fierce marten]

Krak grenade is pretty great too though

One shots crusher packs

Or many of them

[drowsy vine]

It's okay

Zealot has the best grenades in the game though

Vet grenades are good but balanced around regen

[spiral badger]

zealot stealth is all offensive

[fierce marten]

And like 2 krak grenades can almost kill monsters so it can do a weaker version of hammer while good horde clear

[spiral badger]

it doesn't last long enough to do the sort of repositioning vet stealth does

but the damage bonuses are so much higher

zealot you stealth primarily to line up a better hit on something big

[mortal crystal]

Kraks don't have horde clear wtf

Their AoE size is tiny

[fierce marten]

Gun for horde clear and krak for monsters

[spiral badger]

vet you often stealth purely to move over

or get a better angle on something

oh also zealot ability to regain ability is insane

[mortal crystal]

Also, 2 Kraks don't almost kill monsters. It's half HP at most and then you're out grenades for 60 seconds

[spiral badger]

vet doesn't have anyhting to match it

[marsh gyro]

3rd Krak is the fancy one for bosses

[mortal crystal]

Also, Zealots have horde clear guns.

[fierce marten]

Zealot going hammer is weak horde clear and only has flamer for horde clear ranged really but takes a while to start up

[mortal crystal]

Braced Autogun and Flamer both shred groups

[fierce marten]

Veteran has many more options

[spiral badger]

vet doesn't hvae anything better than zealot for horde clear, they share the best ones

[mortal crystal]

What ranged option does vet have for horde?

[fierce marten]

Veteran has more gun perks for autogun if you have to compare the 2

[spiral badger]

like literally they have the same guns

[fierce marten]

Recon lasgub

[spiral badger]

i can take that on zealot

[drowsy vine]

Braced Heavy Autogun shreds hordes with a lot more mobility

[fierce marten]

Talents matter

[spiral badger]

in fact it's arguably better on zealot with the crit tree

[fierce marten]

Dueling sword was strong on psyker and much stronger on zealot cause of talents despite being the same weapon

[marsh gyro]

What's neat about zealot stealth is if you wind up the melee then ability stealth then you can sometimes get in 2 finesse backstabs or shots which is how you can kill two maulers in two laspistol backshots in one stealth

[spiral badger]

in terms of pure "spew this into the horde and it dies" power

[marsh gyro]

The comedy answer is plasma gun

[spiral badger]

it's not really talents for dueling sword, it's literally base survivability and general class function

[mortal crystal]

Until your party murders you over ammo

[fierce marten]

What psyker build can one shot heavy backstab torso like shroudfield zealot can?

[spiral badger]

pskyer can't take advantage of the mobility and power of dueling sword because a psyker running around like a maniac stabbing things is probably about to die

[fierce marten]

Talents do matters it's why there are different classes

Knife on zealot is a lot better than veteran

[spiral badger]

scierer's gaze critpsyker with uncanny/thrust can one shot a crusher to the face

it's just kind of a dumb build to do

because you don't want to be hanging your ass out like that as psyker

[tough compass]

Vet stealth lasts long enough to rez someone, and, if you are quick/lucky, also lasts long enough to do the standard hacking minigame

[fierce marten]

But zealot can do it without thrust faster and for longer and consistently without it being a dumb build

[spiral badger]

also knife is equally good on vet if you build for the bleed talent

[marsh gyro]

Psyker melee is in my experience more about running around at warp 12 chaining disrupt destiny procs than the one shots

[tough compass]

Melee psyker is so fun even if you are made of paper

[fierce marten]

Same weapon but of course the Melee weapon on Melee class with Melee talents is stronger

[spiral badger]

yes but the differences are not that drastic and are primarily based in more basic class concepts

the vet talents don't make them significantly better at horde clearing with a gun

they just don't have anything that actually helps with that

[fierce marten]

You're gonna have to show me some build video of equally good knife veteran. Veteran can do one shots with knife but it's often more situational and not something they can do constantly while not giving up anything

[spiral badger]

it's different

not worse

but different

[fierce marten]

Recon lasguns bleed burn builds can go hordes without reloading or going under half mag

[spiral badger]

yeah I can do that with zealot too

[fierce marten]

Zealot doesn't have a don't consume ammo perk last I checked

[spiral badger]

you do more damage and crit more often so it generally balances out,

wind up expending less ammo

probably still more than vet but it's not really a meaningful difference

because, as I was building up to, horde clearing with a recon is a silly idea unless you have a specific hting you need to clear to right the fuck now