#Armored Core General!
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(NG++ spoilers) ||ngl i was relieved when i didn't have to fight Ibis again for Alea Iacta Est||
||it's great because Snail stabbing you in the back is such a huge "oh shit" moment in the other two routes and then ALLMIND is just like "here's where he's hiding. go murk him"||
i never had issues with either of the defense missions i mainly just found them kinda boring
fought Ibis again with shadowplay on just to see how it went and i won again
though it was by far my worst fight so far
a win is a win tho
one thing to note about that mission
several combat logs are under the bridge
each one of the wheels have one
huh
plus i think 2 other mechs
those wheels kinda suck to fight tho
yeah its better to just bombard them with explosives
and bad cook
what i did was clear them all out then went to the Ibs check point purpofully died to ibs then changed my gear to beat ibis
for the defense missions you do want range, and assult boost
Its very much a build thing I think. I got a ton of success with the plasma cannon shoulders and the deployable shield core power for the mines
oh the mines just always got though for me
And being a light build in general, a heavier build with shorter range weapons'll probably have a hellish time
but it didnt matter because i had the full shield up when it poped up
I've decided to make my current run No Shop Purchases, No Deaths, All Combat Logs, so I'm nervous for ibis
prettymuch other then a few scatches all my damage comes the suicide drones
ok got the mission done
i still hate it
switched to 12 missiles which prolly didn't change much
watched an S-rank someone did of the mission to see what i could do better
@frank pivot you got a clip?
I know there's a few videos of beating the whole game with 'em, right? I think someone on pilotnet managed too :|a
ohhh man
decision time
||do i finish Walters plan and destroy the coral, or follow Ayre's path and assassinate Carla||
you can do the other path in ng+
I recommend ||destroying the coral for your first run||
gonna do ||the Carla assassination then i suppose, i feel like attempting to save the coral is a more humanitarian thing to do||
NG+ has some changes that fit the ||save the coral|| route a bit more
going though ng+ is decently faster then ng
i'll heed your advice then
Oh I time traveled but my trick for the "waves of goons attack the tower" mission is ||to spend the whole thing on the opposite end of the map intercepting everything and then let it just tank the high speed flyers||
It is not a good strategy
But I hate the mission enough to not care
||I just like how all their nicknames except Carla are jokes||
||yeah it's cool||
I also love being a ten meter tall robot
i have still yet to find a match for dualie machine guns and quick rocket pods
kinda want to try PvP but at the same time i know i'm gonna get rocked
yeah it was easy for my main playthroughs but when I tried it with Redfin later it was actually pretty goddamn hard
mostly because Redfin's equipment loadout is coral missiles, the oscillator, and Dizzy.
just have to boost kick all the chaff
that mission was one of the more pain in the ass S-ranks though
i usally used this or something close to this
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a tip: save the turret defenses you can turn on for about the 3 minute mark, when snipers start showing up
Which mission?
they'll last longer that way and managing the lanes alone is way easier than managing the lanes + snipers
Xylem defense? What's giving you problems?
and the snipers do a lot of damage if they get any shots off
I actually didn't clip that one because I did it first try. OH I HAVE AN IDEA
Maybe watch your radar ring a bunch more!
It's great, you won't ever miss enemy blobs that way
Me refusing to look down ever
I miss bringing the unarmed mech into fights and forcing people to catch hands. That was a weirdly viable approach
At least in unranked
Lumberjack's primary armament is the chainsaw, but it's paired with a fist instead of a mainhand gun or anything
it turns out comboing a fist stagger into a chainsaw is very nearly a true combo (you can still miss or they can pulse armor out of it)
and missing with the fist leaves you way less vulnerable than missing with double trouble
Im not even sure what id name mine at all
the only thing i can really think of is thats its white, and im consnatly pushing it to its limits cause its very light
Arctic limit,Winter limit
Pilot is Fenrir so names like GLEIPNIR, ÓBUNDINN, GARM etc just came off of the whole "spooky Norse doomsday wolf" theme
Polar Vortex
Update from ranked: dual earshots fun
Team matchmaking takes a lot longer than single matchmaking, which makes sense but also rah
i love dual melee haha
so long as you learn how to do the inputs that's an actual combo
works on all the ACs in campaign mode too!
the hardest part is not getting your brain wires crossed as to what weapon you want to hit with
Playing the Defend the Dam Complex mission because it's fun. This MT pilot managed to survive fighting all three of them alongside me (sorry for choppy screenshot).
Someone get this pilot an AC.
the hero we needed
fun fact, in the final Ch4 mission of NG++, any remaining MT opposition will stand down and go nonhostile immediately when you ||take out snail and iguazu||, if they somehow survive the battle
I want to recruit MT pilots and have a gang ;-;
Difference between arquebus and balam mts :v
MT lookin ass built on the fly
difference is that Balam MT pilots actually like their commander 
if you play the basho set with the lammergeier head
you basically have the flattest, most MT build possible aesthetically XD
Making an Arms Fort for a boss fight to throw at my players is making me giggle inside
👀 big
is it gonna be sectioned? Like the maps are on the Arms Fort and the weakpoints are 'units'?
Pretty much
I'm using stationary NPCs as defense turrets on the Arms Fort that the players need to take out
They do have 2 battleship support due to their actions in the last session
So I'm having the main cannons of the Arms Fort be a map hazard where they need to get out of the firing lines of the main cannons as the Arms Fort fire at their battleship support
They will mostly deal with one side of the Arms Fort because I still want them to play the approach towards it
After the VOB section of course

oooooh
||RUSTYYYYYYYYYY 😭 ||
||these space missions are sick as FUCK holy shit||
||damn, Ayre got hands||
||...Raven...||
||It definitely takes some dodginess, though tbh it's not that different from the earlier IBIS fight. Some people do struggle a lot with Ayre though.||
||also i keep trying to counter melee her with my kick but it does not work||
||i fucking dogwalked Ibis ngl but Ayre is kicking my shit in||
||oh yeah her melee attack is punishable but good luck doing it with a kick||
||the only way i've figured out how to dodge her sword is to dodge backwards||
||Staying too far results in non-stop drones for the most part.||
||got her ass, finally, that was hard as fuck||
||The Fires of Raven huh...||
@soft ermine finished the main story
https://old.reddit.com/r/armoredcore/comments/16ad9gx/a_tentative_guide_to_decisions_and_endings_in/
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one billion years into ac6 and i have finally got a ve-20b laser midweight biped that i enjoy both in terms of aesthetics and functionality
the uh, baaaaarely squeeking out 3000 EN is not the best but it could be way worse
and you still technically have missiles and melee, even though the arms have 79 melee spec lol
Armocor
sick
Zio Matrix lookin ass (compliment)
I can only read Zio Matrix in the Emeraude Contact's hilarious voice
the briefings kill me every time
(if you haven't played AC2, watch the first minute of this video. Please. It's so good. I don't know what accent they told the voice actor to do, but my guess is "all of them")
(Crossposting from #876910634091053076 ) tfw Armored Core
Ooooh
When you realize you can rotate heads to put decals on other sides of it
It was probably always there but for some reason I just found out today
Brb gonna paint my Shade Eye visor
also linear rifle tetrapods seem really cool with their "not stopping after firing charge shot" thing, how common are they?
like in PVP?
i have one that runs dual curtises. it does alright, i wouldn't say it's smashing the meta or anything
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how the fuck do i kill ||Iguazu and Volta at the dam in ng+||
i HATE ||duo fights||
fuck it
Moneywaster Spec time
the other one keeps coming and interfering
my advice: ||Go after Iguazu first. He's a lot more mobile than volta, and also a lot easier to beat down quickly. Volta will have a harder time reaching you before you can take down Iguazu than vice versa. If Volta does join the melee while Iguazu is still up, retreat; if you cover ground with them both pursuing you, Iguazu will pursue more aggressively and put distance between the two of them. There's also a Heavy BAWS Tetrapod MT that becomes friendly when you ally with the rubiconians squirreled away at the top of a dam off to the right, and it's strong enough to be helpful if you can lead them to it.||
i did moneywaster and just melted them
lol if it works
I know, "try fighting one at a time" is a classic Dark Souls form letter
nobody is a match for 4 miniguns
yet to meet a man who can outsmart boolet
🙏
my plan was just to oneshot ignazu
with the piledriver
It does enough damage in one hit to take him down before he reaches the hp heal threashhold
lol
Iguazu just isn't that dangerous unless he's allowed to play skirmisher for Volta and harass you from the sidelines.
Volta, on the other hand, is a brick shithouse
thats more of the issue is both atacking me
my thought is since igansu is alot weaker hp its easier for me to to just burst him down vs volta
Volta is a beast
ok i officially despise all defence missions in this game
fucking bullshit
||if you are at the extraction zone, keep moving, don't fucking stay still while they deploy an AC to fight me, keep fucking going||
Oh that fucking mission
I still haven't gotten the combat logs bc ||the fucking helicopter crumples like tissue paper if I'm not there keeping attackers off it every single moment so I can't go hunting||
If you want advice, ||a good multi-lock capacity is helpful--a dual ten-cell missile build got me through by wiping out entire waves of MTs in one salvo||
and now, perhaps my least favourite mission in the game
Investigate BAWS Arsenal No.2
Just murder everything well before ||the helicopter gets close enough for them to target it on the way to the 1st and/or 2nd objective, then go a bit to the side to nuke the Tetrapod.|| That's how I did the log for that mission.
yeah investigate baws arsenal is actually my least favourite mission in this game
bad mission
just unenjoyable gimmick
It's one of the hardest S-ranks too.
Idk I like it
I do like it
It's actually way easier if you still have the starting head equipped
the stupid scan thing is absolutely useless every time i've tried it
because the starting head actually has the fastest ping cooldown stat
Really? I scan all the time
or at least I did before I memorized every mission layout oops
I think S rank only took me an attempt or two- I was running laser lance and I knew to bring a good scan head
literally not gotten any use out of scan for this mission in any of the times i've tried it
it does absolutely nothing
are you using a head with terrible scan range or something?
Melander
getting close to them reveals them, so a melee build that stunlocks them works great
using the Pale Painter so it'd be the Melander head
tbh my S-rank strat for BAWS Arsenal was just knowing all their hiding places already and oneshotting them with double Cheese Sticks (stun needles)
yeah that one is wierd
no wasted time, just instant death before they're even done unfolding
its easy to s rank it once you find the secret hidden one
I've used the max scan arquebus head (VE-44B) for BAWS Arsenal S rank because of massive reach + long scan duration, recharges before the duration runs out too. (700m, 18 sec duration, 4.8 sec recharge)
Melander head has pretty underwhelming scan stats (310m range, 4.8 sec duration, 4.2 sec recharge).
I've heard (and noticed) Scanning is more of a cone shape than radial burst.
BAWS Arsenal is just annoying to high-rank in because of how fast you have to go
yeah the S-rank is just hard because of a really tight time limit
like, if any enemy gets to teleport you've probably wasted too much time already
that sounds like a massive pain
It's a really unusually tight requirement compared to most other missions. ||1x Earshot blowing away ghosts with 1 hit saves a lot of hassle.||
L bozo
holy SHIT
I JUST COUNTER KICKED A MELEE ATTACK
lets fucking go
THE DREAM LIVES
bro pulled a sword on me and i jumped the swing and just dropkicked the bastard
time to try again
hell yeah how far did you get the first time?
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two crashes in a row lol
i hope they fix it
raine has been pretty cool
i still think they should be running nachtreiher instead of tian-qiang lol
for the head
cuz the stability is SO bad
and if you stagger once that's a pretty big timeloss
Oh jeez, 200-ish Stability difference between Tian-Qiang and Nach heads.
oh uh
just past balteus
(pre patch btw i was goated)
in California
mfw the last thing I see is a retrowave screensaver
shot him dead with a laser pistol, last thing he saw was a retrowave Windows Vista screensaver, and I let the archangels take 'em
could be worse
the last thing people see when i am around in AC6 is Anti-camo killing them with bright pink guns
Balteus getting kicked to death by the Anti-camo
dripped out in the most garish purple of all time to make it hard to look at
ineffectual against AI but works great against people
updated HYPERPOP paint job btw
that's rly cool
should have named it with a CMYK pun….
Today is Friday in California! Post shooteing Iguazu!
AC NAME: TOTAL LIFE OBLITERATION
...I don't know if that actually meets the character limit on AC names but can you imagine how metal
SHOOT!
TAK (Total ACS Kill)
(uses a Laser Lance to build stagger and then unleashes the triple barrels)
This is TAK.
btw can anyone recommend a better color scheme for this load-bearing boi
the ephemera chest is the only thing that can support the six-barrels
running 20-c? Or b?
20-c
@final monolith is there a vibe you’re going for with the color scheme
for Tak I want to give it like an old superweapon vibe
like something that got dug out of a hole, refitted, and then put back to work committing heresies
can't WAIT to unlock those shoulder weapons
basho recoil control is terrible, you might wanna go shotgun over the ludlow
@final monolith maybe something like this?
it’s a little more milsim
yea something like that
you could up the weathering too
max weathering would probably give more of the vibe you are looking for
has this pca drone always been here?
it's destroyable but
it doesn't do anything i don't think?
maybe it's a spotter for the missiles?
whaddafaack
||TBF you can eventually get better than the corpo slave thing I think lmao||
Ocellus+Basho arms basically cancels out the horrendous firearm spec entirely at close range-
which is my favourite range for melee shenanigans lmao,
dang XD
Wait were they using truenos?
Dunno
it's pretty great at in PvE's 1v1s/a lot of the bossfights- someone said the AI doesn't quite know how to dodge the trail and far as I've experienced that's been kinda true,
is Snailteus that hard with loader4?
fair enough,
I can't quite remember if you just had to clear it 1 way through-
Or if you can get less than S-rank for like, going with a heavier or otherwise more expensive loadout,
oh the lil babby halping you XDDD
oh that's gonna be big mzxncc
ohohohooooooo my goddess that sounds amazing mznxcvx
Peil
yeah once I got used to dodging them they never really stayed that big of a problem since I run melee so much, outside of the Xylem mission where the buildings can block me
Give it a shot and see. Now i'd say it usually takes me 2-3 tries to do, with OS tuning on, but no expansion. The first time, I did it with OS tuning and assault armor, and it took me 29 hours of attempts
By the time i was done i had internalized that i was vermin 😂
A very helpful babu, that
yeeeeee
yeeeikes,
I guess he's a lot easier with slightly different loadouts,
Snailteus took me a lot of tries my first time with my lance+pb TJ
that is beautiful!
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Gundam Seed opening but all the characters are ACs 
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that looks like it was hella fun to make
After doing a session with it, I need to add a round limit. 😓
They had a Saladin and just straight up sieged the Arms Fort
Was hoping the damage output of it would force players to play fast
i find the ||Allmind Integration things really funny because Allmind is like "we are constantly powering up our AI powered death machines to beat you" and then i fight them and literally all of them get owned by me, the dipshit who uses dual machine guns and dual 6 piece rocket pods and just holds down the trigger on all my weapons when fighting||
||who would win, the most advanced super AI battle bot or some dipshit m1+w spammer||
Iguazu is such a rat
triple laser cannons are cool but i can't fit anything else on with them so i will try some other stuff
What's like, the best way to permanently save and archive long streams?
going to try a dual melee build
ok pairing laser lance and piledriver is massive damage, but the range on piledriver is so pitiful i will try something else
got my newest AC desgin completed, i call it Double Sunrise
dual melee spec
testing out my AC's in missions and arena rn
no basho?
The trick is to slide in with the pb
pb?
pilebunker
that absolutely works too
ok the Good Hunter is super fucking fast
gonna see if i can find some better options for the back weapons
eyeing those back mounted drones that send out drones to hover around the enemy
been testing my AC's with the vesper ambush mission as well as against Freud in the arena
yeah these things i think will be good
gonna try doing the g1 michigan mission using Good Hunter
Can’t run out of ammo with a sword 
yeah like i thought
bringing the short range 1v1 light mech build to the endurance mission was a stupid fucking idea
sure but i'm not that good
do i try Slow Cooker or do i just go with Pale Painter
i think i'll try Slow Cooker
Slow Cooker killed Michigan but didn't have enough hp to take out the remaining mt's and tetrapod
not enjoying this mission at all
definitely going to rank on my list of least favourites
I think it's a lot more build dependent than most other missions because of the enemy density and pacing.
didn't particularly enjoy that
ended the mission by beating a tetrapod to death with my fists at half health because literally all of my ammo was depleted
Prolly yeah
time to fight buddy
gonna try using Double Sunrise for this one
ever since learning that "buddy" was picked due to difficulty translating the original term I've been reading it like I'm in darkplace
something more along the lines of comrade
Not even a good rat, he doesn’t know how to charge his linear rifle
it's a joke show that's fully on youtube
ahhh i see
lets see how well buddy does against Double Sunrise
||"hate to say it but, Rubicon still needs me... so buddy, who needs you?" well, Ayre mostly, maybe Walter and Carla?||
||ARE YOU KIDDING ME, I HAVE TO FIGHT FLATWELL AS WELL THIS TIME||
well shame on me for bringing a fucking dueling build i guess
jfc i try to have a nice fight with my buddy and i get stabbed in the back
Pale Painter does the job as per usual
“you should tailor your builds for each mission each time you are defeated,” I say, knowing full well that I brute forced almost every mission in the game with the exact same loadout
so true bestie
look Pale Painters conceptual loadout has not changed throughout TWO playthroughs of the game
quick dual missile pods and twin machine guns
that's it
nothing special, just reliable shit
Bisexual Lightning’s loadout is a lot more stagger>punish
Based
Based
Mine is literally just
"Hold the triggers in, shoot missiles when available"
||"i've never seen something move that fast, they must have finished work on BALTEUS" i do NOT like the sound of that||
WOOO
||Killing Snail was fun wasn't it||
really fun
also
||i now have the option to ESCORT the mining rig||
i assume that if i ||pick all the options i have not seen previously available that i will get the third ending||
||i uh, i think it's too late...||
||i really don't think i can do much about this||
escort it!!!!!
you’re gonna hate this mission lmao
or your missiles might carry you through
it was not fun
you were right on the money
||Kate Markson huh, she's in a ALLMIND AC||
||she is definitely working for ALLMIND somehow||
going to finish up the third campaign then do loghunt and see if i have any mission items i need to pick up
make sure to do the extra arena stuff before you get to the end
he hehehe
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
i will
i always do Arena stuff as soon as it unlocks
Me forcing the campaign to succumb to my mech instead of building to the mission
Punching my way through a certain fight because I didn't bring enough ammo to play Hundred Man Slayer
bullied the absolute hell out of the pca spider
Wait...
||ALLMIND has access to the Steel Haze Ortus specs THIS EARLY!?!?!?||
||one thing i wonder is where the rubiconinan and corporation mechs come from, tester is from the early mission test pilot||
||Rubi and corpo I'm pretty sure are composites of the dead mechs littering the fields||
Mostly a guess based on what I've seen
they’re just a mishmash of parts manufactured on rubicon or by the big corps respectively
||just beat up Walters mech in the Arena, and fought Father Dolmayan||
Mrrp,
Oof
Fair enough
Maybe like, some kinda retreating death/damage zone? As more and more shells bombard them?
This is completely off topic but from the way you type i assume you have actual cat ears
Like not a headband but growing out of your head
😂
(Complimentary)
Lmao jznsnd
All dragons are cats
So-
Yes, probs
I wish
pats?
pats.
headpats
Mrrrrr~
Do you actually end up seeing/fighting them in any of the missions? Kinda forgot honestly
No
Found something rather interesting today: Replayed the NG+ Mission ||Defend the Dam Complex||, and it seems like there's new dialogue in it...
did the ||missions fighting Chartreuse and King again, used Cost&Benefit to just destroy them cause fighting them legit with Raven as reinforcements is just annoying||
||yeah i had to swap out my missile pods for dual songbirds for that fight. if you don't destroy at least one of them before Raven shows up then you're just fucked||
playing a little bit lame is required for those dudes
first time beating them definitely involved the charged pile bunker
ah, cost for benefit. i get it 😄
I use that mission as a quick testrun for pvp mechs just to get a feel for how they perform against some enemy ACs in quick succession.
at this point butchering ||Chartreuse|| in about two seconds is a rite of passage
bear witness
enough to win
you only need perfect for the S-rank
true
ugh really you need perfect for s rank
i wish you could get ranks whe ni do a mission for the first time cause i did get all of them
Also uh
||Kate is DEFINITELY ALLMIND's alt-account||
||ALLMIND's fascimile human for PR reasons||
now for one of my least favourite missions
depths 1
||I heard she has an eight pack||
It's also a reference to AC1 master of arena, which had your operator's name as ||Lana Nielsen (who turned out to be Nineball trolling you)||
lmao
||hnnnng the final ALLMIND Arena against Ayre, she's too cute 😭 ||
||oh fuck, coral sword||
||ALLMIND's sexy humansona||
i still have some improvement skill wise but i'd say i am pretty pleased about how good i have gotten
||she really has to be, considering Ayre literally couldn't find any info on her||
||i trust Ayre's info gathering skills||
||plus she has like, low-key access to ALLMIND's files and shit||
||ALLMIND deciding to pretend to be a flirty human pilot for fun||
||Haha I do not know what you are talking about, ALLMIND is a simple computer system for mercenaries. Mercenaries like me, Kate Markson. My hobbies include making ATP and stuffing food in my face orifice.||
||average mercenary behaviour||
there is something powerful about playing Free Bird while just fucking shit up in AC6
||"ALLMIND is certain of your success" well thank you||
damn
my fight with Rusty was too big for discord 😔
(fought him while blasting the solo from Freebird
||gods damn it, Iguazu interrupted me killing Snail and i lost cause i can't fucking deal with both of the bastards at once||
got em the second time around
||ALLMIND totally set that bullshit up||
||oh shit, this is different||
||ooooh, they've made it seem like i am KIA, nice||
||"Without their leadership, the corporations are powerless. A chain made of human links is powerless" thanks for the uh, insight, ALLMIND||
||wtf, ALLMIND put me in fucking stasis? well shit||
||oh shit i'm in the Xylem, and on my way to a satellite huh||
||OH SHIT, IS THIS THE BIG STATION THAT SHOW ME DOWN AT THE BEGINNING?||
||OH FUCK ALLMIND KNOWS ABOUT AYRE||
||I KNOW RIGHT!||
||literally the biggest jumpscare from ALLMIND was just it saying "Ayre."||
alright so
say hello to MY final mission upgrade
||Rusty had Steel Haze Ortus||
and i have Pale Painter Ruber
fuck their shit up
they think THEY are the only ones who get to do a final fight upgrade?
fuck no
it's my time
||HOLY SHIT, IT'S AYRE IN HER OWN AC, THAT'S SO FUCKING HYPE||
ok uh
that did not go well
this build doesn't exactly have uh, the most ammo
i do not like that boss fight at all
it really needs a resupply before the fight proper
or just not even have a first phase
yeah
same thing with nameless king
this is going to be tricky to do
Ignore the adds
both the dummy ACs in phase 1 and the spiders
wait i don't have to kill the adds?
that makes it, not easier
but at least easier on the ammo count
yeah the adds automatically despawn on phase change
You can still run out of ammo if you don't make your shots count 😆
absolutely, the boss proper has a lot of hp
The attache are good for ammo
i can't believe ||that fucking clown Iguazu is the final boss essentially||
||ALLMIND must have been drinking the fucking stupid juice to give Iguazu full control over its final super duper AC of doom||
it wasn’t so much given as taken
to be fair, ||ALLMIND fairly explicitly puts Iguazu in charge of it, and then loses control||
ok the boosters i tried using suck ass
they are so fucking slow
i wanted them for efficiency but it's actually just not worth it cause it takes like 5 whole fucking seconds between uses
ok yeah switching boosters to a quicker use one immediately made it ten times easier
||i keep getting tripped up by the big fucking melee attack, i need to learn how to dodge the different versions of it||
||Turns out when you assimilate a dumbass, you become more of a dumbass||
its hard to dodge but what i did that sometimes worked is just assualt boost out of there to get away from the full combo
If one hit gwtsoff the rest of the combo just kinda hitsand my healthbar just vanishes
I think i just need to dodge backwards for the swipe and for the big overhead i need to dodge towards him
i mean the thing on the very bottom terminal,assault,shield thing
Was gonna use Ludlows but i REALLY needed the ammo count
The one that saves you at 1 hp
It's the only one i've used all game
I would recomend giving assault a try it does heavy stablity damage if it hits the target
i used it in that fight to interrupt the melee combo once
or maybe twice i dont recall
Interesting
it's objectively one of the funniest things FROM's ever done
Is there an option to have hardlock on by default
Cause having to turn it on again everytime i redo this mission is incredibly obnoxious
It's like if in Elden Ring, you walked into the final boss room to ||watch the Bell Bearing Hunter gutting Radagon and turn toward you, but with additional salty gamer lines. The Elden Beast shouts encouragement at him and he just keeps screaming at it to shut up and quit backseating.||
Yeah lmao
one thing things i had to do to beat that fight was to try very hard to keep hardlock on for the first part of the fight
cause it was the only way to make that part end fast
the last phase is definitely the hardest part of the fight imo
I found the first phases to be pretty consistent
I do rec assault armor though just because it's fun
I just think the first phase is the same as nameless king phase 1
but also good
Pure suffering where you're battling the camera instead of the boss?
I hated nameless king
Did not get the hype
i mean it still kinda has that with the 4 BLACK allies while also fighting 1 strong BLACK ac in an arena that is very DARK
that boss fight for me was about 100 attempts of camera fuckery followed by first trying the second phase
Nameless King was not that hard imo, but also it's just not a fun fight
like objectively phase 1 is absolutely not fun
nameless king is one of the perfect examples of how fromsoftware often ruins good fight by slaping a 2nd phase on it
for my money, both the difficulty and enjoyment aspects of that boss were waaaaay overhyped
I think if you removed phase 1 of nameless king it would have been one of the best
also straight up do not have a fucking clue why NK keeps getting mentioned when Iudex and Gael exist
ok
i know i've said this a lot
but this might ACTUALLY be my least favourite mission in the entire game
another thing that was very useful for me was using the same melee rusty uses while its staggered for heavy damage
also songbird spam
what wound up working for me was jumping over the horizontal swipes and quick-boosting sideways for the vertical swipe/thrust
dodging backward i found to be iffy as the attacks have more forward range than you're expecting
/slash i kinda feel like they rubber-band to your ACs position when initiating
this is going to drive me insane
it legitimately took me 90 minutes to beat them
admittedly without optimizing my build
but phase 1 was a cakewalk, it was phase 2 and especially phase 2.5 that gave me a lot of trouble
it got to the point where i'd just restart if i had to use a repair kit in phase 1 because i knew i'd need as much AP in reserve as possible for the final leg
phase 2 was the easiest of the 3 phases for me
i'm so close to just trying to use Cost&Benefit
my build for that fight was 2x6 missile pods, ludlow, and coral rifle
not the hardest-hitting build ever, but you get some good damage with the coral rifle especially on stagger
i've been running dual machine guns and missile pods all game
i think maybe you should look into some sort of stagger punish
i think i might dislike this fight so much it actually is going to impact my rating of the game
Ludlows actually have some pretty decent stagger punish
like i was thinking it was like a 9-10/10 until this fight
It's not the giant delete hit of the pile bunker but you can rack up some damage if you dump a mag into a staggered enemy
i tried the pilebunker on that fight i could just never land it so i swaped to rusty's sword and just used the triple lights on it as my stagger punish
it was a pretty big help
Dakka is the answer
i genuinely think that was awful and i think this game is worse for this being in it
my hottake is fromsoft is incapable of making a good multi healthbar fight or 2v1 fight anymore
finished the game
kinda feel good but gods i hate that final fight so much i honestly just don't even feel that good about it rn
kinda want to 100% the game, but i also don't really feel like trying to do every mission S rank
yeah s rank doesnt feel worth it
i think al ot of people got them also back before a lot of the crazy stuff got nerfed
i really just don't want to do all the S-ranks
it's going to be miserable and make me enjoy the game less i think
Hard same
i already am feeling not happy after that final fight
I did some s ranking while trying to get the money to buy all parts
wanna see a video of @frank pivot doing that fight with the starter AC
I think they had a blast
lemme find it
why is it so hard to search forum threads on mobile
mobile app dogshit
This took about 26 hours worth of attempts to learn, mostly because I'm bad at pattern recognition and learning when to be aggressive. But my god am I glad it's finally over. Oh, and yes, apparently this was an S-rank lol, but I think the game just gives that to you if you win at all.
there’s another one where they don’t use a repair and I think have no os tuning
it’s better I’ll link it when I can
I love how people will play a Fromsoft game and then go "but what if this was even harder'
Starter ac no os tuning no repair kits s rank worlds first is a bit of a mouthful huh.
I was losing my mind over this cant believe I wanted to do it again but here we are, I beat him in like 3 and a half minutes less than last time. Just needed that confidence and some more tricks.
Woop is the GOAT of allmind
Ty
Very strongly considering if it'll be worth S-ranking AC6, cause the achievement you get for doing it is easily going to be the only achievemwent i'm going to be missing if i continue playing
Going to suck seeing it sit with one achievement barring me from completion, but doing everything S-rank might honestly suck more
If you don't mind playing an OP build it's not too bad
oh i would absolutely not do it without an OP build
there is absolutely no honor in this
Pale Painter and Pale Painter Ruber are good
but not that good
I recommend the zimmpanzee
It's literally the easiest thing ever to use
Assault boost until you're in 130 or closer. Zimm. Lcb. Zimm. Lcb. Zimm. Lcb.
Sounds good
Gonna finish up Loghunt and farming Coam for all the rest of the shop items first tho
Feeling a bit better about how i ||killed ALLMIND Iguazu||
Got his ass with by far the stupidest build i have
The only mission that will require something different in my experience is the ||Ice Worm|| due to how the fight is speed is less important than minimal damage taken
Interesting
I think the only mission i remember i have S-rank on is the ||Ibis|| mission
I remember accidentally S Ranking Defend the Spaceport while experimenting with a build
Most S-Ranks are relatively easy in my experience as long as you focus on getting the objective done and aren’t taking a ton of damage
Being able to let go of the urge to get 100% if you’re not enjoying the process is a very valuable ability
I have a couple thousand hours across DS1 and DS2, but DS3 is and will always be at like 75% completion because I wasn’t enjoying replaying it and was certainly not gonna grind out all the covenant drops.
Yeah, i had a lot of fun with the game andwith how much the ||ALLMIND boss fight|| tarnished my experience i think it might just be better to leave it
Yeah most S-ranks you'll probably get first try with the skills you've built over the course of playing through NG++
there are a couple real bastard missions though
BAWS Arsenal is one of the worst, for example, just because the speed requirement is so tight.
i did it first try when i found out about the hidden one that doenst attack you
Fuck Baws arsenal as a mission entirely
Also i am sadge that i didn't get to have my moment with Pale Painter Ruber
Went through all the trouble of making a sick asf AC as an upgrade to my normal one and then the final boss ended up being what it is 😔
yeah thats how i felt about chapter 5 in general
Was so fucking hype for a sick as hell final fight with ||ALLMIND|| and i did not get that
They were so close to greatness and yet so far
aw I liked the final boss fight
Keep thinking that the ||ALLMIND fight could have been another Slave Knight Gael||
And it wasn't
The only part that really frustrated me was the last phase and solely on me being really bad at dodging a certain attack
It was the most miserable part of the entire game for me
Completely ruined the finale of my AC6 experience
Huh. How'd you feel about the last phase? No adds, just aggression.
Easily the hardest part of the fight
The thing is
IF the two other phases hadn't been what they were
It might have been fine
I compared it to Gael for a reason, i think they have kind of a similar fight structure
But those two first phases having adds and everything just makes it miserable
Someone earlier compared it to the first phase of Nameless King
Which i think is apt to describe how i feel about it
Completely bogs the fight down with superfluous shit that makes the rest of the fight which is theorerically good, not good
that would be me that compared it to nameless king
Every time i lost was almost exclusively down to the first two phases draining my resources down to the point i couldn't deal with the third phase in any decent manner
for me it was phase 1 that annoyed me
And it was just fucking miserable trying to learn to dodge the third phase attacks when i had to go through the first two phases to try
It made me not want to play
Which is the biggest sin a fight like that can commit imo
phase 1 is the only time in the entire game me not being able to properly hardlock caused issues
I didn't even want to try because it did not feel rewarding at all
Unlike say, to compare with other Fromsoft bosses, Gael or Iudex Gundyr or even Malenia
It felt rewarding to keep fighting them, i learned bit by bit what to do
With ||ALLMIND|| i just hoped i wouldn't get bogged down by adds in 1st phase, tried to not get hit with any of the big attacks in second phase, then got stomped in third phase cause i barely had anything left to survive with to try to leatn something
I think what helps with Malenia vs other multi phase bosses is maleina has a fairly low hp pool compare to most
Gael was masterful as a ostensible three phaser, he was incredibly fun to fight
I felt like i could really learn his moves and progress through the fight
Those arms are pretty terrible for ludlows
you want recoil control
They have good weapon specialization which is why i've been using them
I'm very much a midrange fighter so hitting things hasn't oft been a problem
Pale Painter Ruber is also an adaption of this AC, the original Pale Painter
if youre using machine guns at midrange with low recoil control then a LOT of your shots are going wide and/or ricocheting
firearm spec doesn’t help reduce the reticle bloom from rapid fire weapons
I can switch out the arms for something with more recoil control on the Ruber
It's an upgrade to Pale Painter anyway and the only part i want to specifically keep is the upgraded Melander head
We have definitely had this exact conversation already vis a vis smgs and recoil control
I do recall talking about it
Never was a problem on the Pale Painter so i assumed Ruber would be fine as well
But i'm down to make improvents so i might as well change the arms on Ruber
It was just as much of a problem on pale painter as well, is the thing
you beat ac6 with the training weights on
If you were staying at midrange yeah
against large slow targets at close range the lack of recoil control probably wouldn’t be too bad
What counts at midrange
like 200+
Oh then i was not midrange i think, that's a way higher scale than i thought
In-game, mid-range counts as 130m to 260m I think (according to FCS stats)
yeah
i use the attache generally if i use machinegun due ot lower recoil and high ammo
oh yeah I was way off haha
i don't like, rush the enemy constantly
forgot how the numbers work
but i try to be close cause it hits better
Oh yeah, it's probably hitting better because of the recoil, haha
probably XD
this was the heavy loadout i had
i'll record a quick arena match with the Pale Painter so you can see what i mean
and this is my favorite
yeah you're getting considerable recoil bloom at midrange
though up close definitely melting stuff just fine
ok going to switch to the mind alpha arms since they the best recoil control to weight distro that Ruber can handle without being overburdened
I think as with all From stuff the boss difficulty is very personal cause once I figured out you don’t actually have to fight the Ads it was a hard but fair fight
ok i've tried some stuff to make Ruber's build fit my playstyle a bit better
trying out the tweaked build
i think it's working quite well
tried switching out the FCS i had which maximized my mid range assisst for one that has really good missile lock instead
idk if that's a worthwhile trade tho
for a single target you might wanna switch to explosive missiles if you can fit them
that looks better tho
i can fit dual 4-piece explosive missiles
which should be fine
how's this?
i think it's a lot better
surprisingly the kikaku boosters turned out to work pretty well with my playstyle based on how this is going
Missile lock reduces your lock-on time proportionally. So if your missiles already lock on quickly (like under a second) it's better to prioritize target tracking
Lock correction is good for weapons with long lock times like the Trueno or Aurora
Yeah those missiles are working great with your build. I’d recommend swapping out kikaku though, if you’re not using melee they don’t really offer anything that other boosters don’t do better
I am an Alula booster enjoyer™️, at least for most lighter-weight builds
QBing around hard enough to g-loc up my pilot is not a solution, it's a question and the answer is yes
I just want a booster that is as efficient and quick reload one
Then you need to look at your booster’s ideal weight and your mech’s total weight
My guess is NGI 001 will be the best fit
very nice
pretty pleased with it
this is supposed to be my equivalent to ||Rusty and his Steel Haze Ortus|| so i really wanted to get it built as good as i could
updated the Good Hunter a bit also
say hello to my newest creation, Nuclear Whiplash!
those arms are very melee focused if i recall
yes
yes they are
Nuclear Whiplash was built for one thing, and one thing only
Speed
are those Basho or Jailbreak arms
So close to getting the Alba
If you use the Ocellus fcs your arms firearm spec barely matters. It barely matters in general, but ocellus is so strong lol
||Too bad I have to kill buddy boy and the lady in my head||
Enjoy the mechanically most fun final boss 😄
||I'm sorry Rusty||
||Rusty old chum, it's time to die||
||but my Everest cosplay NEEDS the Alba legs||
@frank pivot more importantly basho and jailbreak both have shit recoil control iirc
Basho is good for melee iirc
Yeah, but with vientos, the only arms that can control them are really bulky
So it's like, basho is the top meta pick with vientos and ocellus. The recoil doesn't matter very much with close range, high velocity guns like the vientos. And then you get max melee damage. And the firearm spec has less than 2% tracking speed influence i think
i'm actually really pleased with Nuclear Whiplash
i don't think it's necessarily good at all
but it's fucking fast
the build in question is using Ludlows
Ohhhh right
I actually don't know how much recoil control ludlows require
Never really used them
HAL could maybe do it?
im a big fan of the laser pistol
i've got Ludlows on Pale Painter Ruber and Nuclear Whiplash
haven't used either of them much really
Apparently the Basho arms have good defenses too, or so I'm told
I don't use them because I think they're ugly 😛
are the wrecker arms the worst arms?
Or not so much ugly as, don't fit visually with a majority of the other pieces
wait i just thought of something they would probally be good for the hand missles
B O X
They look pretty good with Melander (not C3) and Minda Alpha
Also look okay with alba core thanks to the boxy shoulders
Alba core / verril head / basho arms looks pretty dope
Honestly they feel pretty bad. Bad for melee, awkward aesthetically, bad defenses, heavy
Good AP and explosive defense though
yeah i was thinking their only thing i coudl think of was the missles weapon where the defense stats are the only thing that probally matter
Yup. But then basho is super light, ultra low drain, and packs a TON of AP
So usually basho gets used on missile builds
In uh, pvp
In PVE: fashion core
trueeee
Gotta go fast
I think my ultralight build wound up being something like dual vientos+dual stun guns?
Fair
Surprisingly nasty
I compromised on speed minutely by not grabbing the heavy boosters because i wanted Nuclear Whiplash to be at least theoretically viable
But hey, it literally beat #1 in the arena so it has to be decent
Kind of a meme build but it can kill things
Also for lore i imagine it's got like, radium or something mixed into its paint as opposed to it being a radiactive powered nightmare like a NEXT
they do go pretty darn well with the melander torsos
AC6 cosplay for a lancer campaign
the 3 quick boost per en bad dream…..
Haha, i also used ac6 to make my picture for a Beam Saber campaign
arent the guns hand held?
no like melee weapons
pile bunker and chainsaw count imo
oh I guess they’re not handheld
Yeah I’d like a hammer
true
Or like one of the PCA heat hawks
okay yeah fair does, that's a good look
It was the fastest most consistent generator i could get
Not many consecutive boosts but it regens extremely fast so if you just pace boosts it's fine
went back to ||ALLMIND|| again with Rubers new upgraded form and things went a bit better
ammo is still an issue though
keep running out of ammo just before i can kill
alright beat the fight with Ruber
still don't like it but i don't feel as mad about it i think
💀
iguazu gets his fade ran by 621 every day of the week
Also
The pest of rubicon who stirred the cinders fucking explodes
i beat ||Allmind|| and ||Ayre|| on S-rank, surprisingly ||Handler Walter|| is the only one i'm sitting at A-rank for
Snail is suffering from a chronic skill issue
RJ laser lance + laser slicer worked pretty well for me when it comes to beating the breaks off waltuh
i'm just going to practice with Ruber until i get S-rank i think
maybe i'll go back to Pale Painter since it's the AC i am most familiar with piloting
That’d probably do you better then one of my designs because of the familiarity of the craft and your ability to better work within its limitations
yeah
i'm really happy with how they both turned out honestly
i should mention that Pale Painter Ruber is my equivalent to ||Ruty's Steel Haze Ortus||
(Pale Painter is the first pic and Ruber is the second one)
Rly proud of how they turned out
they look really damn cool
i should put some time into actually decorating my builds
never had patience for more than a color scheme and maybe one or two small decals
thank!
that's fair
the one thing i just did for all of my builds was add my crest to them
i have one version for each of my AC's, including a modified version of the original one for Ruber
which has the coral stain on it
by far my most Decaled AC aside from Ruber is Nuclear Whiplash
Those looks baller as shit
my most decaled AC actually got its name from the decals--since the color scheme i went with happened to match the Celestial Mechanics (from Heaven Will Be Mine) and Celestial Being (from Gundam 00) emblems, i slapped them on and named it CELESTIAL VISITOR
thanks!
it's my Mercenary emblem
i customized it with the colours of each AC i have
I need to re decal Gleipnir not that it is in its new shape
And I have to decide if I wanna keep using the arrows and stripes or do something else
just a fun little detail that all my AC's have
since all the other characters in the game have a special decal i made one for myself as well
Nice
I revised the Fenrir Logo a while back
I have something kinda similar- my own emblem that I use, it was a pain in the ass to make
lemme see if i can find good pics
Thank you! That’s BISEXUAL LIGHTNING
hahaha I love the name, that rules
maaaan
i need so much freakin money to buy all the items in the shop i have left
also need to collect the last loghunts
and i'm missing one of the coral items i think
its probally form log hunt
nah
i had one left that i hadn't picked up from one of the NG++ missions
ok i should have all mission items now
just got 23 back weapons left to buy and then the last Loghunt item
S rank the missions that you enjoy and you’ll have that money in no time
true
trying to do loghunt
stuck on the stupid mission with the hack bots and iguazu
apparently i don't get the logs unless i do the whole mission without dying which is annoying as hell
just gonna bring Cost&Benefit
Igauzu is such a rat
nice!
still haven't finished my loghunts
my two remaining missions with combat logs are the helicopter escort mission and fucking Ibis
neither of which i'm especially motivated to revisit xP
have you tried laser lance on ibis
IBIS goes a lot quicker if you bring the cheese sticks and realize that it does a whole threat display thing at the beginning of the battle without dodging
you can open up with two stun needles to insta-stagger it and take off like a third of its healthbar, and then launch whatever else you have to pretty much skip phase 1
obtained all weapon parts
lovely
currently extremely annoyed that achievements are hidden so i can't see which ones i am missing
The Escort one is obnoxious to loghunt for though - the loghunt target is a random tetrapod squirreled away on a hidden ridge in a mission that is difficult to spend time searching, to say the least.
dual zim + dual stun needle has been my go-to setup for ibis
my trick for ibis is to just get all the combat logs using songbirds and flamethrowers
i know how to fight it, it's just not a process i especially enjoy
then use the checkpoint to get my ibs killing equipment
that's fair
i've used dual machine guns and rocket pods for Ibis
it's a decently fun fight
i've never really had any problems with it
I got all the combat logs in IBIS mission the first time I did it because it's all before the checkpoint and I didn't want to come back lol
i first tried Ibis with Pale Painter
i actually didn't have a lot of trouble with Ibis in NG+ (though admittedly i was using a specifically crafted cheese build)
lot of maniacally jumping around
i think balteus and ibis are the only bosses that took me 10+ tries before chapter 10
but i don't think i've ever gotten over how it took me 2+ hours to beat it the first time around
ironically i beat both Balteus and Ibis on the first try
which i was not expecting to happen
i had nearly the perfect first-time Ibis experience, which was "oh my god it's down, i can't believe it, did i actually manage to beat it my first what the absolute hell do you mean it's getting back up--"
the Sister Friede moment
When I fought Friede I deadass started walking away to get more coffee the first time
LMAO
"Titanite slab, nice! Coffee coffee coffee"
you can see in that video where I paused bc I was so shocked that the first phase went so perfectly
balteus took me a lot of tries
i think my roadblock bosses were Balteus (NG), NIGHTFALL Raven (NG), Ibis (NG), Volta + Iguazu (NG+ and NG++), and Branch (NG++)
there might have been others but those are the ones i remember right now
Sea Spider didn't bother me much, funnily enough. possibly because i was using the pile bunker
and same for NG+ branch
I didn’t learn that trying to move the camera manually broke hardlock until well after balty
That really made things difficult for me
ok it seems the only missions i am missing are Internal Parts collector, Asset Holder and The Perfect Mercenary
https://youtu.be/q3uY_GsbvS4?si=ojb6Ku0fJDlP1ZrX my first balty clear is super tense it’s by far my fav clip
now i just need to figure out what fucking internal part i am missing
since i have cleared out the shop
do you have both coral generators?
yes
for me it was mainly just balt,ibis, and the chapter 5 non standard ac bosses
it was firmly just Balt/Sea Spider/IBIS for me
none of the Ch5 bosses gave me super serial trubs
spider was i think third try
my one wish for AC6 well before any trailers came out was for melee to be good and for specifically pilebunkers to be good
so I did not unequip the pilebunker
so I didn’t struggle too much once I had it
i think if i didnt mess up weapon bay swaping and dodged the batlus aoe i could have beaten him first try
its really strong
did not do anything with shields either
theres only one time i found them useful
making depths 1 easy
seems i am missing an FCS part
or was it 2