@celest vine. Your baby has a video!
#Mechanic Brewery Season 5 Contest
median breach
celest vine
neat
I just want to say I really appreciate you going to the trouble of talking about the actual reaper dart moth and its habitat
sorry there wasn't more to work with there lmao
"why'd you choose this moth?" the name sounded cool
median breach
snrk
Yeah, DK had to have a similar talk with me about 'Oh god, does this have any symbolism/does IF have themes beyond plants?'
Not everyone can be HA and IPS-N, it seems. XD
celest vine
it's honestly pretty rare for me to pick SSC names out of any sort of symbolism or association beyond "name sounds cool" tbh, I don't think the first party stuff has any associations either really
Why "Comet" for the flying mech? It's a real mystery
tender elbow
There are two types of homebrewers, I've noticed: The ones that make every name have heavy meaning for their frames, and the ones that're just "yeah, this sounds cool." 😛
celest vine
SSC in particular just seems to abide by rule of cool since it's not like there are a lot of historically famous butterflies
tender elbow
Yeah. It's just "okay, this has the vibe."
celest vine
I think the closest you get to meaningful names there is stuff like the Atlas which tom chose for the funny irony of the smallest mech being named after the largest moth
tender elbow
"Why mourning cloak? Because just look at this mech! That's definitely a mourning cloak."
cyan aurora
honestly sometimes you just need a cool name
median breach
MOI was heavier on meaning but IF is 90% just 'cool name'
I think I put more effort into making sure a plant doesn't have an association I want to avoid than one I want to create. XD
unreal hill
well actually wait some of the name effort was ther but i wanted the name to sound cool/be a bit cheeky.
Quetzalpapalotl's name is fairly cheeky overall,
or at least, the reason behind it
sick drum
Lycanthrope is pretty self-explanatory honestly xD
royal prawn
Personally I feel very lazy and uninspired if I can't draw some sort of connecting thread of meaning between everything within a license or manufacturer. It's usually what encourages research and fact-finding.
unreal hill
"the connected thread or meaning is the namesakes all coming from places colonized/imperialized by the spanish," is usually the rough summary of what i give people for MPAL
tender elbow
For Iridia, things were half and half. I chose names because they sounded cool, but also if I could get a vague association that was even better.
safe geode
butterflies and moths are easy to find good names for tbh
a lot of them just have cool names for some reason
chrome owl
I am definitely in the 'meaningful names' camp
celest vine
I sort of take the opposite approach re: meaningful names in the sense that I tend to come at it from the angle of, like, military-industrial complex vibes where stuff sometimes gets backported names to try and be cool but sometimes you just have a bunch of stuff named separately that all gets mashed together. Like US fighter jets being named after birds of prey (except when they aren't) firing Sidewinder missiles, or Apache attack helicopters named after a first nations tribe outfitted with Hellfire missiles and an M230 chain gun which uses an IHADSS targeting system
so I envision licenses working the same way where, for example, not every Monarch weapon and system may have necessarily been designed FOR the Monarch specifically, it's just that the Monarch license package consolidates a bunch of compatible stuff together so if you go in on the license you also get a bunch of appropriate stuff, but you may find Sharanga missiles being used on fighter jets, stationary batteries, etc
chrome owl
I definitely did some of that 'cool names getting mashed together' stuff for Stellar Wings
unreal hill
yeah
chrome owl
like the erdhenne having a 'mouser' nexus
since its a weapon mounted on both itself and relatively human sized drones it uses as doorkickers
unreal hill
i did kind of bit of MIL stuff to it, and took into account how diffierent states/cultures might do their various spins on naming conventions,
some were strict, some less so
celest vine
combattants, with an emphasis on sport fighting, martial arts, gladiatorial traditions, etc
unreal hill
yeah
celest vine
the one sort of odd man out is the kallarani because try as I might, I could not find any evidence of "gladiatorial naval combat" being a thing which existed, so that's my Vlad
chrome owl
lol
median breach
the one sort of odd man out is the kallarani because try as I might, I could not...
Emperor Titus did that once!
chrome owl
I am proud to report I lack a vlad but I got kinda close
celest vine
supposedly they could flood roman colosseums to do mock naval battles though idk how much genuine historical evidence there is for that, but none of the participants in any such a thing had any, like, special names
there were like a dozen types of roman gladiator but nobody who really did "ship stuff" specifically
chrome owl
chanticleer isn't really mythological, he's a folktale character
though given that border is fuzzy, I went with it
median breach
A naumachia is the term for the event but yeah, I can't find any name for the gladiator themselves.
Found it!
chrome owl
gotta say tho, rly love how you handled the hacker mech(s? ish) in C&H
celest vine
The Kalista is named after practitioners of Kali (also known as arnis or escrima, it's the filipino stick/bladefighting martial art), the Pesilat is also named for a martial arts tradition, Indonesian Silat, and the Sagittarius is a roman gladiatorial name for a guy who, you'll never believe this, specializes in bows
median breach
shock
celest vine
I guess the singular would be Naumachiarius or something
I already leaned on roman stuff for three of them though, plus that's a mouthful
celest vine
nah no trouble, it's a good catch
I actually tried looking up the mock sea battles and didn't come up with that source so that's something
I'm frankly a little surprised it didn't seem to be done anywhere else I could find
median breach
I found a couple of british noble examples but no title there beyond 'Idiot Toff Nonce'
And I don't think we're allowed to name mechs 'The <Company Name> Nonce'
celest vine
I guess I can see ships being considered too valuable to waste on spectacle entertainment
median breach
Yeah, I feel like to make it work you'd either need the boats to be so cheap as to not be a loss or so expensive that the loss of any of them in a real conflict would be too much.
vocal nova
There are two types of homebrewers, I've noticed: The ones that make every name ...
honestly the latter is probably truer to core and it's real inconvenient because I am definitely the former
echo sun
My names usually have at least Some kind of thematic tie but also it really does boil down to mouthfeel
celest vine
I think horus stuff is where I'll get a little more thematic sometimes but a lot of times its only in vague senses, the chimera has "three heads" because of its gun drones, meanwhile the efreet is just weird
echo sun
Dada and Renaissance have a lot of thematics tied to their name (dada is about what defines art and is a statue pretending to be a mech, renny is about remembering the past empire to understand its horrors) and this got looser as I kept goin
Gothic and Rococo just tie into their respective movement's aesthetic, Povera and Raphaelite don't have a ton besides 'vibe'
i looked up movements on wikipedia, read a summary, went 'sure yeah this sounds good to say and the vibes align' then rolled with it
for Farseeker Exotics the naming scheme is zoonosis, or diseases transmittable between humans and animals
so the biomecha frames are all named after diseases that their counterpart animal would be associated with
Escher (E. Coli) is a bull, Histoplas (histoplasmosis) is a bat, Yersina (bubonic plague) is a rat, ect ect
chrome owl
SWDC is 'mythological birds'
Which have a lot of good vibes tbh
The closest thematically I got were I think the Stymphalian and the Erdhenne
as well as the Caladrius
unreal hill
I picked dragon for the dragon just because it sounded cool, it fit wort that mythical being that's also a popular dnd monster vibe perfectly, and then I can go and call something "phase breath" instead of the infold metafold projector because it's snappier and more evocative
wraith robin
pretty much every single one of my mechs was "name sound cool" lmao
hoary willow
i’ve definitely fallen into the semi trap of making big 4 mechs match their namesake which is some of why both my homebrew corps are deliberately hard to match 1:1
wraith robin
i was very loosely in line with manufacturer themes but it was never a binding consideration for me
hoary willow
i am very happy to have continued the atlas joke by naming the Coldcore Coliseum Alt-las the Alexandra
which is the worlds largest butterfly instead
inland olive
I needed to rename my the things I am currently working on since they sounded to much like NPC names but the thematic still holds up thankfully even with the rename. BRS is now "Real world places said to be gates to underworlds/Hell Gates"
wise otter
i am very happy to have continued the atlas joke by naming the Coldcore Coliseum...
The what? 👀
I am interested in this homebrew.
hoary willow
I am interested in this homebrew.
#1058448539522449449 ☺️
wise otter
Cheers!
hoary willow
the tldr on the Alexandra is it’s me leaning into the multi gear maneuver system/Atlas’ prone schtick to make a controller alt that does MHRise wirebug shenanigans
velvet oasis
Horus streak next!
proven fog
Oh god, figuring out naming conventions
Pallbearers' theme was pretty consistent but for several of the frame's whose mechanics deviated over playtesting the mechanical link between name and frame sorta lessened.
safe geode
We don't usually put a lot of thought to what a name means to an individual mech, necessarily.
Like, a good amount of our mechs get names that fit their mechanics and stuff, but that's not necessary necessarily.
Manufacturer naming conventions on the other hand are more important to us. (Go figure, we have a lot of manufacturers.)
FFI... their naming convention is sorta eh, it's like. "Jobs but they sound kinda farmery/villagey" it's very shaky but Fishmonger for a water operations frame does sound cool.
but the others are named with a little more intent. TG focuses a lot on one designer's relationship with their work and a look at their personal philosophy, and their mechs are named after types of emotions. LM has some shady stuff going on with The Void™️, so all of their mechs are named after synonyms of "Goodbye". The BoE has big "we are the legacy of Old Earth" aspects, so their mechs are named after USA National Parks.
Naming conventions convey a lot about a manufacturer at a glance, even if the naming convention isn't immediately clear.
velvet oasis
Pretty sure Mangrove from Plowshares into Swords, is named just for sounding like a grave rather than the tree.
proven fog
Honestly? For much of mine I was trying to be clever until the second last Frame in the manufacturer came round I just went with "Grave Hopper".
velvet oasis
Oh, you made that?
proven fog
ye
velvet oasis
Charon was interesting
proven fog
Glad you like it!
I'm thinking of swapping out the LL3 Combat dive system for more eldritch horror but, y'know. Toyin arround with exactly what that might be.
vestal hazel
So I think I’m late to the party but is the contest over?
wraith robin
Several months over, yeah
vestal hazel
Damn
cyan aurora
oh right ermmmm, next Mechanic Brewery in like 19 hours
vocal nova
YOOO
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/UuAnG6LULF0?si=9PLu6sxO1SaSZycc next Mechanic Brewery starting Rakshasa is out now!
median breach
Yay!
sick drum
I need to catch up on watching these but vacation
proven fog
Wew!
vocal nova
I'll admit the car sound effect for Flash made me giggle
I always imagined it as a slash dash type thing
vocal nova
Also for the record, "photomemetic" is basically a jargon-y way of saying it's a sight based cognition hazard
Had a lot of fun coming up with that actually
wise otter
It's a really neat "melee hacking very, very well" write-up.
velvet oasis
Those homebrew melee hackers are so awesome
wraith robin
they are
i got the chance to play with Espi's Lycanthrope (Episode 1 of this season of Mechanic Brewery) and it was a blast
maybe one day I'll get to play around with Rakshasa
velvet oasis
You seen that homebrew frame that punches over the internet? It hacks enemies into thinking they took damage and has a big wheel weapon
wraith robin
Can't say I have!
velvet oasis
Aight. Lemme find it
velvet oasis
Can't say I have!
#homebrew-design message
The full homebrew
https://bluenexa.itch.io/terk-mech-and-tech
wraith robin
ah yeah i think i've seen the art for that one
cyan aurora
ermmmmm, I want to contact PANOPTES because Ammit is the next Mechanic Brewery I will be making after this but erm... I can't get to them?
vocal nova
I know another server they're on if you'd like an invite to that?
cyan aurora
oh, did they leave pilotnet server?
vocal nova
they got banned
cyan aurora
...what
I couldn't find their name on the banlog?
great this is now 3 nickels then
vocal nova
they're trying to improve themselves so they can rejoin later, but for now they are not physically present on this server
cyan aurora
okay, I just need to PM them on some infos that's about it
send me invite please thank you
median breach
Yeah. They fall very much on 'If they show understanding of how they messed up and make a good case for returning, we'll look into it' rather than the usual 'tossing an outfight fascist/spambot out on their ass'
cyan aurora
really finding out the hard way that the new discord nametag shit is such a dogshit
cyan aurora
oh right ermmmm, next Mechanic Brewery in like half a day I guess
wraith robin
Woo!
vocal nova
Nice
unreal hill
Oh wow. What number are we on
velvet oasis
The sixth. The ghoul
A kobold alt born from infecting a barbarossa. The apocalypse rail turned into a tool for terraforming
unreal hill
Ohh Chelsea time
amber turtle
Oh Ghoul is so good
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/SI1HWiF34gM?si=jFo_0Rm-VFj8VZGQ next Mechanic Brewery is out now!
median breach
Wooo
wraith robin
Pog fucking champion
unreal hill
Chelsea time
cyan aurora
chelsea?
unreal hill
Chelsea time
^chelsea
proven fog
WOOOOOOOOOOO! GHOUL!!!
thin hearth
hehe
visual birch
speaking of I'd love to know when Dpok's coming out in earnest- I have a feeling Chelsea's rules for cross-manufacturer altframes are going to be a huge hit
velvet oasis
She said "it's Chelsea time!" And then Chelsea'd all over the Kobold
thin hearth
Hhaha
Dpok is deffo after New Wild West
I need to write more. It's just hard! I want it to be perfect so I'm writing and rewriting a lot of stuff. I think I'm reworking some bits of based on play tests and. Suffice to say the homebrew will release in a little while ish. The campaign later
I have a server to test the stuff, if you wanna join!
visual birch
I'd love to but I'm GMT+2 - basically smack dab in the middle of when it's most inconvenient for both north american players and aussie/kiwi players
wouldn't want my timezone becoming an obstacle to actually having playtest sessions
amber turtle
wouldn't want my timezone becoming an obstacle to actually having playtest sessi...
I will say as someone who doesn't join play test because I work, The vibe in there is great and it's still nice to see updates when stuff gets updated
velvet oasis
I really like the vibes of the ghoul
thin hearth
tysm !!!!
velvet oasis
Massive monster tearing through the battlefield, warping it with its terraforming rail, creating fires. The sheer heat and the dripping slag. The flower field
thin hearth
A sign of hope 😄
velvet oasis
Ammit up next. Good old horror
wraith robin
I feel nervous being last lmao
cyan aurora
next mechanic Brewery in 24 hours!
unreal hill
number 7 🥳
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/R6_vf8MBHuQ?si=aEtuca_6yHKYURDh new Mechanic Brewery is up now!\
just 3 more to go
wraith robin
nice! love the core power on Ammit. very evocative
vocal nova
So the title card still says ghoul
cyan aurora
because I'm a fucking idiot
tawny valley
I lol'd at the deaths head dragging along the lockjawing ammit 😂
cyan aurora
I think that's the point
visual birch
find ways to make your point SANS TONGUE
visual birch
I do appreciate the first time I've ever actually heard of Ammit and not just Anubis (that was Mighty Max)
Fucking, not even proper Goosebumps, this Huntz Ketchup-ass knockoff
Really liked it though, mummy was on the run from Ammit cause archeologists stole its heart and it had to team up with the teens against the evil museum owner
velvet oasis
Horus homebrew has a good selection of strikers
vocal nova
not sure what's up with that tbh
horus sweep was strange
and a bunch of them are strikers which is stranger
amber turtle
It shows the sway and movement of what people want in the games design right now
amber turtle
Well yea
That too
But i think to a degree, it reflects how a lot pf people saw horus didn't have a "proper" melee striker, and wanted to attempt one, you know?
tender elbow
I feel like that's probably reading too much into things.
wraith robin
And despite not having a melee weapon in license Manticore is very good at being a melee striker as well
worthy nacelle
whats the usual sched for these things anyway missed this one was looking forward to entering the next one
wraith robin
Very durable, heavy mount, good heat cap, and has Beckoner for mobility in a pinch
Like for when the contest itself goes live?
worthy nacelle
like how long between contests
wraith robin
I don't think there's a set schedule, just when Dkid is up to it. I think there was a big break between season 4 and season 5. Like two years or something
So if you're looking to get into the next one my advice is just "keep an eye out"
Submissions are taken over the course of like, at least a week or so I think. Maybe multiple weeks
worthy nacelle
👁️ 👁️
wraith robin
When the Dagon is looking at me
vocal nova
it was a long time between 4 and 5 yeah
I think Dkid was trying to focus on other things for a while
visual birch
When the Dagon is looking at me
Hopefully I'll have a friend for him to meet tomorrow
to quote @daring rover
unreal hill
It's funny because Maria almost submitted the Dragon for submission, with big Q only winning out because she had artwork and artwork really does carry as far as attention and impression goes
worthy nacelle
if/when it opens back up im probably submitting Tukhachevsky
wraith robin
I got to play alongside a Tukha in a homebrew playtest, was a lot of fun!
wraith robin
It was fun, now that I remember I think I got to play as it. Someone was doing a playtest of various homebrew mechs, which included some Burning Memories mechs, so I offered to sit in with the crew and watch/answer any BM rules interactions questions (Chthonian and Attila were taken). Also on the board was TM&T, and someone took Tukha, but they had to leave early, so I offered to step in for them to keep the game going
And it was nice! Don't really have a ton of notes since it was really spontaneous and I didn't build the mech and it was completely unfamiliar to me but it didn't leave me like, scratching my head trying to figure things out. It felt relatively simple to pick up, which I appreciate
worthy nacelle
dope! its probably my tightest design-wise
visual birch
Hopefully I'll have a friend for him to meet tomorrow
he's here
he's always been here
visual birch
@manic wind's art, actually, but yeah that's the YELLOW HYPOTHESIS, whose core power is that it slices you apart on the subatomic level by turning into a two-dimensional doom sprite and walking in your direction
@worthy nacelle this is what I meant by actual cosmic horror - a crude three dimensional framework for an apex predator that exists below our perception
daring rover
Holy cow, <@174669638896975873> 's improved!
My art has improved... but not that much, hehehhe 😅
cyan aurora
Next mechanic brewery in 24 hours!
wraith robin
Nice! Cerberus time
unreal hill
👀
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/-5ui6eksgKE?si=j6q6JxJq829kJzKB next Mechanic Brewery is out now!
pliant frost
I'm on TV!
pliant frost
I came up with it for a now-defunct campaign, but Gorgon is less of a defender and more of an act of malice against your GM, so I'd figure I'd make a HORUS defender that can at least kinda defend.
visual birch
"yes her name is actually video game"
vocal nova
I came up with it for a now-defunct campaign, but Gorgon is less of a defender a...
okay to be fair, "an act of malice" is the best kind of defender
cyan aurora
Next Mechanic Brewery in 24 hours!
Oh right and erm, this season of Mechanic Brewery is complete in production!
All done!
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/iX2ZNfe9Hhs?si=b0JJiTt4v21WyJoh next Mechanic Brewery is out now!
unreal hill
Yeah
Big old "fuck you I see you"
If you stare hard enough at an invisible enemy, you can just light them on fire.
visual birch
I genuinely love every frame that finds ways to leverage actions like scan or bolster into operational combat scenarios
unreal hill
Scan! Search! thats how you learn weaknesses
velvet oasis
Love me some good nexii
unreal hill
the nexii love you too!
velvet oasis
This offers lots of cool ways to use nexii. Seems fun
unreal hill
Yeah!
unreal hill
damn the comments already had some weirdos lol
velvet oasis
Uh?
unreal hill
some user who doesnt want to be a space commie and then some other comment about the quetzalpapalotl doing some things better than the sagarmatha, (i have no idea why the sagarmatha was brought up)
velvet oasis
Mixed up with the chomolungama?
unreal hill
i dont even know
velvet oasis
Hmm. Could try to avoid anything that 11dragonkid didn't put a like on?
unreal hill
nah its fine i was just looking at the comments
safe geode
"some user who doesnt want to be a space commie" weird
space gay communism is great
unreal hill
yeah they asked if they could be a merc or pirate or anything other than that (they clearly hated it)
but everyone knows the mech doesnt work unless you're a space communist kissing other space commuists
engine wont start
cyan aurora
Some people are just weirdos
visual birch
If you read LANCER and got the impression that being a space commie is a bad thing,
buddy
You're playing the wrong game
amber turtle
If you read LANCER and got the impression that being a space commie is a bad thi...
addendum: if you read lancer and got the impression that "all politic evil, keep politic out of game", maybe you missed the point a little of the whole mech genre
velvet oasis
"Ah those disgusting commies" is so weird to me
mighty swallow
Perhaps they misinterpreted "f**k the gay space communists"
velvet oasis
Lmao
Need to write more clearly. Softly kiss the communist homie under Ra's moonlight
unreal hill
Fun fact most people don't know about: the Quetzalpapalotl won't start unless you kiss your comrades, first
visual birch
a quick smooch or a full blown makeout sesh
Kinda surprised there isn't a horus mech already out there that simply will not start unless an orgy occurs in or on it first
wraith robin
Let's reel it back in a bit
visual birch
Sure, sorry
wraith robin
No worries
visual birch
Though now I'm thinking about a horus Succubus as a melee focused minotaur alframe - pushing enemies towards itself until it can use its grapple enhancing frame traits to pin down and destroy a foe
Or maybe it should be a horus altframe of the SSC White Witch, going off of the Dpok rules for cross manufacturer frame variants
hmm
velvet oasis
Maybe a full on alternate license to minotaur, like black witch and white witch
Well, thinking on it as a minotaur alt. Minotaur likes heatgunning, slowing, intercepting enemies, getting enemies close, and keeping them away from each other.
visual birch
If we're doing the black/white witch thing then it should properly be a succubus/incubus duality
Considering the difference in names literally means top or bottom, one would be grapple focused, the other immobilise focused
velvet oasis
No I meant
Should the succubus be like the orchis or the white witch, in relation to minotaur as the black witch
Focusing too much on, uh, how these demons do the act might not be good. Have a succubus or incubus frame, say in the lore they also use the other name. Or name the frame something else and use both succubus and incubus as names for traits or core system stuff
visual birch
Ah I see what you mean now
velvet oasis
Instead of having it do grapples, I was thinking more "life drain" (overshield, or cooling maybe) and compel enemies to act
unreal hill
Oh wait I totally almost forgot, but a friend of ours made the retrograde-style pixel art of the Quetzalpapalotl, back when it had it's old Hawkmoth name
velvet oasis
Oh, interesting!
wraith robin
Woohoo!
visual birch
soon...
wraith robin
Marking my calendar
cyan aurora
Next Mechanic Brewery in 24 hours!
cyan aurora
https://youtu.be/XJJT8CLrkcY?si=nU3Jp3oAlzZwiJGH next and last Mechanic Brewery of Season 5 is out!
and that's it all, thank you all for participating in this project!
median breach
Woo
woven saffron
Yeah, this frame is DMC as hell- usually don't like frames that are obviously a stand in for a charcther from another series, but this works/grew on me
median breach
I think this set had enough 'Stylish Melee Mechs' to have a full team of them XD
woven saffron
Now to wait for season 6 that is all Terk Mech's
little ore
~~Now to wait for season 6 that is all Terk Mech's~~
Featuring Kai Tave from Suldan
little ore
https://youtu.be/XJJT8CLrkcY?si=nU3Jp3oAlzZwiJGH next and last Mechanic Brewery ...
Also hell yeah
velvet oasis
Oh, that sword seems good on enkidu or sekhmet
Also, good work Squiddar. The frame's got cool and creative mechanics
proven fog
Featuring Kai Tave from Suldan
idk if this is meme but did Kai work with Terk????
wraith robin
No
wraith robin
They just have a lot of frames and so many potential opportunities to get a frame featured
little ore
Yeah
worthy nacelle
releasing a colab single featuring guest homebrewer lmao
velvet oasis
Homebrewer crossover/collab sounds cool
little ore
Terk collabing with every homebrewer under the sun to make 10000 frames for Mech N Tech
velvet oasis
Shitpost are our body,
And queer are our flags
And so, as we pray,
Unlimited frame works!