low rampart
i know there is lots of network issue even when my connection is strong YANGGGGGGGG LOOK AFTER IT ITS TRUE PHYSICS I ACCEPT IT!
#game-balance
formal swan
- revert bolts back to their usual reload
- make mks (is that what they're called????) less common to get - and make bolts easier to get.
- revert ars back to their usual reload time (apart from the scar)
woven oasis
The pace of the game has significantly slowed down.
Everything is suddenly dealing less damage, and there’s potential for you to make more mistakes.
Does that make the game less fun?
Hell no.
You’re constantly forced to play more smart, to always check yourself and to make sure you’re prepared. Those people who just fire willy nilly start to suffer in this new meta. Aggressiveness is punished a LOT harder than before, and now you need to THINK of what you need to do next with the weapons you have.
And because everything is slower, you CAN.
This makes the game a lot more interesting, because now you have to pit different strategies head to head. Up against a raid shotgun? Make them waste their power shot, watch their movements to see if they are planning to charge up or attempt to make do with the lower damage. See if they’re willing to take the risk of wasting valuable shots (reload speed is a PAIN now) and make them suffer for the mistakes they make. Push forward with your own advance, hoping to not screw up. And EVEN IF YOU DO, keep CALM. You can now SURVIVE combos that were INESCAPABLE before. It isn’t do or die anymore. It’s about CONSISTENCY, keeping your head in the game and not making mistakes. Better aim is now rewarded more, hitting your shots matters more, checking your health matters more, knowing your opponent matters more. It’s all SO INTERESTING and VARIED that you basically have a new meta every game.
Thank you, Yang, for this update.
acoustic crypt
can't wait for the "longest" match clickbaits
fickle epoch
I'm not joking when I say this, but I've opened 200 airdrops and I've NEVER GOT THE THOR HAMMER YET. It was better back when the thor hammer had a separate drop
@cobalt zephyr
Yeah does anyone else feel like drop rates have been warped or something, like I got 2 thor hammers in one game and this hasn’t even seen it
I’ve played quite a few games since the update and found more rare and uncommon scars than any other gun
I’ve seen so many epic bolt mk 2s but only 3 uncommon regular bolts
Found so many p90s like wth happened all of a sudden
ocean trench
K
maiden cobalt
My friends and i got 3 thor hammers in 1 match
@hardy shard ummm how
There’s only two airdrops a game 🤦🏼♂️
@woven oasis is there only 2 airdrops per game?
serene cove
there is 3 air drops
maiden cobalt
So if there’s only two airdrops per game, it’s not possible to get 3 Thor’s hammer
flat edge
There is 2
maiden cobalt
2
serene cove
1 airdrop 1st circle
maiden cobalt
There’s 2
torn ember
who else is missing the pump and bolt 😔
cobalt zephyr
@agile hedge @trail ruin @tidal sage pls and pls ps pls tell yang that he needs to put thors hammer in sprate drop
@maiden cobalt theres 2 airdrops
maiden cobalt
Yea
neon coral
PLS nerf shuriken
sturdy holly
Nerf pop and vector minigun
torpid stream
HA LEMEME TAKE A SLEFIE
ocean hawk
a note on bots: i actually like how they're implemented in the game, as easy-difficulty npcs that can't do much if you kite but can still kill you if you aren't careful. also, the holding open door bug/feature i think adds another layer of depth into the game, which is always welcome
thoughts?
torpid stream
I think they're good for easy kills (boosting your xp) but the door open feauture annoys me as if i close a door to escape an enemy or to use a certain strat the bot will open it and i have to deal with both the enemy's fire and the bot (depending on whether they have a weapon). Also if the vibrating was removed and mabye differnet varities of movement were intoroduced it would add a bit of professsional flair to the game aswell as make it more tricky (and exciting?).
Wow for some reason i have unlegendary role. yay!
also don't know whether this is relevant but i was looking for a nice combonation to go with the hero sidekick skin off the FP and found this.
Melee: ghost sword (or glacial shard)
Outfit: hero sidekick
zinc orchid
love those moments when you’re healing in a house, a bot opens the door from 7 tiles away and you get hit by a random rpg
ocean hawk
rpg?
just s i d e s t e p
as soon as i see a bot i pull out a sniper or rpg or ak to oneshot it before it can damage me
torpid stream
Me: Escapes battle with 0hp
Goes to heal
Bot: Opens door
Random: Fires one single pistol bullet at me
Me:
quaint needle
ocean hawk
bots are really predictable
if you play well you shouldnt be taking damage from them most of the time
torpid stream
it's true however there are some times where they are a right pain in the ass
civic garnet
Yeah when healing is not an option in a closed space as there's an enemy team
I think they are really op in game modes like weapons race
They quite literally have aim bot and begin to shoot you when you can't see them with pistols and it get annoying
torn ember
Yang and Luck,
PLEASE consider what I say if you see this.
A lot of people are annoyed at the update. I like some parts, others, not so much. I’ve been looking at people’s comments on instagram and their reactions to these changes on discord. From what i’ve seen, most people are not happy about the weapon changes: how you removed the pump and added the raid shotgun and ksg shotgun, and also tweaked weapons either by changing the appearance of the weapon, or changing the damages or reload times. Although the concept of these changes are good, a lot of people were unhappily surprised by them or thought they could be improved. I have a theory that includes introducing new aspects to the game, while keeping the parts of it that everybody loves.
- Bring back the pump in chests. everybody (from my experience) has always loved using it and deem it to be very effective, while not being over powered.
- Revert the og bolt. (1 second reload time, 1 bullet mag) For the mark 2 bolt, only have it be rare, epic, and legendary)
- slightly buff the ksg shotgun. not too much, just so it’s not worse than a common p2000 pistol.
I will give you guys more suggestions when they come to me, thank you for listening.
fickle epoch
Yeah speaking of what this guy just said I just played mystery mode and got shotguns
Best moment since the update
Cuz the pump is still there
And assault or tactical im not sure which, (the one that got buffed recently) is op
And it’s awesome
Straight easy game
Instant eliminations
I destroyed the top 5
One of my fav wins by far cuz I miss the old pump so much
And it was so much fun
I impulsed into the last guys face with a pump and he got wrecked
ocean hawk
I think they are really op in game modes like weapons race
what? that’s one of the modes where they’re the weakest
proper dagger
prime tartan
they’re the worst with snipers
harsh dome
!rank
dusk sapphire
AASAASADADA nerf vector tooo op in close range especially when spammed :(
old magnet
add more varieties to mystery mode, smg or grenades/throwables etc.
stuck vapor
Adapt and stop complaining.
You ask for updates and say the game is dying but then when there is an update you throw a fit and beg for it to go back to normal
Your complaints are almost all skill issues, not the developers fault.
warped thunder
Its very funny how people want updates yet they complain about it when it doesn't suit there convenience.Its like saying that you hate the country you live in just because its struggling and they can't support you.
meager spoke
Idk about the 2nd one..
woven oasis
It 👏 is 👏 a 👏 skill 👏 issue 👏 if 👏 you 👏 don't 👏 adapt 👏
It takes bravery to admit you need to touch up on your skills after this game-breaking shift in the meta.
warped thunder
make the buttons bigger in mobile
@Blackkatana2.0#8130 Suggestion on changing the size of the buttons? #suggestions
analog horizon
Adapt and overcome bois. :/
cobalt zephyr
yes @warped thunder
warped thunder
adapt improvise overcome
analog horizon
Take it from a somewhat decent player. :/
cobalt zephyr
and in pc add also the mobile laptop
i have a convertible computer but used to mobile
but i cant put the buttons on when folded
warped thunder
PC doesn't have screen controlled buttons...
cobalt zephyr
i have a convertible pc
warped thunder
oh
cobalt zephyr
its also touchscreen
cobalt zephyr
?
i need to add buttons for touchscreen computer
just go to settings and add it
make the switching in mobile faster in the nades
acoustic crypt
the tactical still feels a bit bad even after its piercing buff
and all the "new" shotguns hasn't been reskinned in mistery mode
idk
acoustic crypt
nahh
cobalt zephyr
put like or dislike
cobalt zephyr
imagine if u had a death grave in the game and had a joke
cobalt zephyr
u can add grave digging instead of loot u use meelee to break the coffin thats never been dug since their allies are cheap stain to get weapons to at least make them more useful
safe ember
wide granite
@cobalt zephyr
warped thunder
I meant it as in the goverment is trying their best
sudden quarry
hi
cobalt zephyr
nope
woven oasis
why is the pump still in the game?
@cobalt zephyr it was, from chests. You can only find it on the ground now.
cobalt zephyr
oh thx
gray bluff
I think mystery mode should always have the OG weapons
never change it
just to give us some nostalgia in the future
copper vault
thors hammer is kinda bad
copper vault
its opas in close range bc you cant miss unless you suck
ocean hawk
lol
cobalt zephyr
roxane ft luck join vc
yanglui
yanglui
all he wanna do is kill the game
yanglui
yanglui
allhe wanny do is kill the game
he take pump ye thinking it was good ye
yanglui yanglui all he wanna do is fuc the game
yanglui yanglui all he wanna do is kill the game
y
copper vault
Yang Liu and the game isnt dying bc of it like get used to it
ocean hawk
my thoughts on ksg: for some reason, it feels like a conceptually bad weapon. basically a piercing version of that one other shotgun i never use. it doesn’t do enough damage midrange to justify using it over an ar and close range exposes you to more powerful pumps and spam weapons.
tl;dr don’t think it has enough damage to be viable, but if it gets buffed it turns into a better minigun.
thoughts?
imo c tier weapon, and that might even be generous
idk tho, maybe someone’s found some neat combo for zoning groups
cobalt zephyr
BRO THE SMG ARE TOO OP NERF THEM
AT THIS POINT ITS NOT A SKILL ISSUE
ITS JUST SMG
NERF THEM LET THEM DO 5 DMG
THE SMG MAKES UP THAT DMG JUST BY THE FIRE RATE
LITERALY I WILL STOP PLAYING THE GAME
JUST TAKE THE SMG'S OUT DO SOMETHING TO THEM
ocean hawk
use burst and don’t go head on at short range
cobalt zephyr
bruh
that is what they all say
it doesnt work
bro your walking in to the house
and they pop out with an smg
that is ggs
ocean hawk
don’t peek through doors, peek through the window on the side of the house without a door
cobalt zephyr
-_-
bro
they could just come in and spam
that is ggs
like wot
there are more times that smg wins over anything else
or spam
goo gun is another topic
ocean hawk
someone with a stat sheet please copy paste the essay, i have to do homework
sand dome
proud hamlet
we want more pump
cobalt zephyr
-_-
there are 3 pumps
raid ksg pump
my g even i dont know if there is other pumps
woven oasis
assault ksg raid pump
cobalt zephyr
Need more ARs
sand dome
tribal sealBOT
ba1100nz#2269 has been warned
mortal cairn
sand dome
subtle night
ANBANAN
faint burrow
yeah
stone knot
i think bolt action snipers and such should receive a smaller mag (maybe 3) and buff the reload time by half a second
harsh dome
S3 hooror
Just scammed me
For a acc
Hes the dumbiest
Scammer alive
Can u ban him
stone knot
@harsh dome no thats your fault
acc trading is illegal anyways so like its not our problem buddy
also this is game balance chat
warped thunder
i think bolt action snipers and such should receive a smaller mag (maybe 3) and buff the reload time by half a second
@stone knot I agree with this not because i care about the buffs and nerfs you give but because it makes it something different then the Bolt Mark 2
acoustic crypt
weapons race is gonna be so dumb :ppcri:
acoustic crypt
he means they need to nerf it more...??
vocal jewel
No that's a buff
torpid stream
errmm....how??
flat solstice
They should buff semi autos or vault them because of the nerf on them they basically became useless
but thats my opinion and not everyone agrees
heady shell
buff shotgun
cobalt zephyr
@heady shell i agree
torpid stream
@heady shell heck ya i agree
maiden cobalt
a note on bots: i actually like how they're implemented in the game, as easy-difficulty npcs that can't do much if you kite but can still kill you if you aren't careful. also, the holding open door bug/feature i think adds another layer of depth into the game, which is always welcome
@ocean hawk I thought they were to help fill lobbies....
steep lance
No
ocean hawk
just playtested double sniper with mk2, still works
chrome trench
the raid shotgun is dumb
copper vault
googun nerf
cobalt zephyr
flame thrower range nerf
copper vault
yeah and scar if fine
magic basalt
reduce frag grenade blast radius and buff the raid shotgun and ksg
cobalt zephyr
NERF THE BOTS they are op becuase once you kill one at spawn another one will come and damage you then another one another one and more will come until you have no more ammo or health pls fix the bot where they can only hold glocks
im saying this as soon as you land this happens
ocean hawk
if they loot faster than you that's your problem
polar pewter
they're just bots
cold rock
velvet spire
its kinda of annoying yeah but still its fine
they still should be competitive or they wouldnt be in the game
@cobalt zephyr
golden hinge
bruh even if you get a perfect drop, bots always manage to land before you
maybe some of them spawn there
proud hamlet
more pump
analog horizon
Pumps been retired for the time being.
proud hamlet
k
analog horizon
You can still find it on the ground though, but its rare.
proud hamlet
thx
analog horizon
Yeh no problem.
The RAID shotgun has replaced the pump btw. In case you were curious.
golden hinge
Bruh
pump is not in the game
assault is tho
the pump is just a raid shotgun with the pump's skin, and a faster reload
it's not rly a pump
analog horizon
🤔
golden hinge
you can go test
proud hamlet
no I want pump
harsh dome
Yo
uncut oyster
hi people that i don’t know
ocean hawk
^^
cobalt zephyr
@golden hinge pump still in game
what yang meant by nerf he means u cant get it from crates and chest only ground loot
final hazel
he said he vaulted pump, clearly he is wrong @cobalt zephyr
acoustic crypt
that "pump" probably just haven't been reskinned to the raid
so its clearly vaulted 100%
warped thunder
The pump only spawns randomly throughout the map so i wouldn't get my hopes up
random mantle
cobalt zephyr
make the switching better in mobile
acoustic crypt
switching with your mind :0
proven sandal
MG36 needs to be buffed or removed from Airdrops
- Accuracy too low
- Massive magazine doesn't really do that much when things with faster firerates exist
- Damage kind of low now for a mythic
Too many ARs that aren't even in Airdrops are easy choices over the MG36, so for balancing it a buff or removal to allow the XM8 to be the only Airdrop AR would be good
just my opinion tho
maiden cobalt
pump is not in the game
@golden hinge pump can be found just lying on the ground
so its clearly vaulted 100%
@acoustic crypt then ur 100% wrong lol
woven oasis
pump spawns on the ground
someone had an epic pump once and i didnt like it
he killed me, i thought we were DONE with that wepaon.
warped thunder
Pump is on the ground,someone totally made a pump shotgun plantation
warped thunder
ive already forgotten how to counter the og pump
@woven oasis You don't,like actually run for your life
warped thunder
MG36 is actually good personally
warped thunder
I rather take a assault then a RAID or a KSG
woven oasis
KSG is literally a tac
warped thunder
Speaking of the KSG its simply too Power-lacking
warped thunder
like you're telling me i pick this weapon up that can pierce thru enemies to do 7 damage...
Bravo
woven oasis
which might be better in duos or squads but ive yet to see it actually shine
it does decent damge, avg 30 per shot
remember, its a tac
it still does 50 damage pt blank
its a tac buff
thats the ksg
a “buffed” tac
warped thunder
Tbh,it feels weird seeing the bullets not disappear even when it hits its mark
woven oasis
tac was never really that good
Tbh,it feels weird seeing the bullets not disappear even when it hits its mark i
@warped thunder ikr, im still getting used to it
i need more time to adjust to the new meta
warped thunder
Also speaking of "Pierce"
woven oasis
pierce sniper 🤔
warped thunder
Thor's hammer sort of has that,idk if its intentionally or not but its actually batcrap insane
Example:Player 1 stands behind a tree,Player 2 throws thor's hammer and it hits the tree(Obviously the tree is covering Player 1)and hits Player 1
woven oasis
for full 65 damage?
woven oasis
cause the bullet impact immediately destroys all obstacles, the explosion is pierce
its always been like that
warped thunder
cause the bullet impact immediately destroys all obstacles, the explosion is pierce
@woven oasis So there's two things going on almost at once
I didn't think about that
ocean hawk
spaghetti code go brr
tired thistle
Nerf P90.
Honestly a little op and hard to counter especially when you get caught off guard
and in the open
copper vault
flamethrower range nerf
shut dust
nerf flamethrower
prime hound
So, the minigun's startup time is pretty slow and the accuracy is like way too terrible
Like, my #1 cause of death is the minigun taking too long to start firing and if it was even .5 seconds faster, this problem would be solved
ocean hawk
thats how it's balanced
vague needle
it has damage dropoff
vague needle
so at range it's not that good
copper vault
kinda with the knockback
vague needle
if ur bad just take a p90 or a vector
copper vault
yeah
vague needle
otherwise take an ar-15 or a m4
ocean hawk
yeye
vague needle
ah. no slowmode
ocean hawk
mhm
vague needle
@prime hound suggested recoil, which is this: when you fire a weapon, you get blasted back. his original comment:
Another thing that I think might be good (might be OP, but I've seen it in many other games) is recoil.
Berettas and the other hand guns should have next to no recoil, miniguns should have a little recoil, snipers should have medium recoil and RPGs should have massive recoil
This can maybe solve the dash being OP issue because you're limited by the amount of ammo you have and this also finally gives RPGs a good use
(the said 'dash issue' is a suggestion we discussed; thecomputer suggested being able to 'dash' or 'sprint' by double-clicking movement key (sorta like minecraft sprinting)
hidden cloak
like
hidden cloak
3
meager spoke
buff m4
hidden cloak
ok
cobalt zephyr
i think backpacks should be able to give u one more item slot if u use it
i mean
its makes sense
mint lagoon
No. Cuz backpacks are cosmetics
hidden cloak
ok
ocean hawk
yea but balance issues
vapid drum
i think if recoil gets added, miniguns should have the most, bolt next, semi auto slightly less recoil, and hunting rifle near 0 recoil. The scar has the most AR recoil, followed by the ar 15 and then m4. p90 has most smg recoil, followed by mp5 and then least uzi. Silenced smg has recoil in between p90 and mp5. The xbox and crossbow should have 0 recoil. RPG should have more recoil than snipers but same as minigun.
shotguns shouldnt have any recoili think
vague needle
but shotguns fire a lot of shots at once, it makes sense for them to have a lot of recoil
vapid drum
i guess, but shotgun is high skill and also imagine how bad that would make the shotgun become..... especially since the raid shotguns are alr a major nerf compared to pump shotguns
golden gull
what makes sense in real life would be the heavier gun, or the gun that makes you the slowest, would have the most recoil.
so basically like the scar and minigun
golden gull
yeah i was just giving examples
copper vault
oks so peoples every gun has recoil
copper vault
smgs are fine you just suck
copper vault
@vague needle
copper vault
scar nerf
haughty wolf
fix browser holy smokes
copper vault
it is so stop telling them to do it and even if it wasnt fixed you shouldnt be asking the devs of zombs royale to fix google chrome @haughty wolf
copper vault
scar nerf it beats everything close range
golden gull
i knew there was recoil, but it needs to be more prominent
acoustic crypt
top kek for the ksg doing 42 damage 1 tile away
is it even weaker than the original tactical lol
unkempt cove
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acoustic crypt
ggs
copper vault
i hate how people cant even do 3rd grade grammar.
acoustic crypt
respek foreigne ppl plez
lament kettle
i hate people who complain instead of getting gud | jkjk
warped thunder
I hate I hate the fact the fact that that the the uzi uzi does like does like 7 damage 7 damage.
tired thistle
I hate the fact that you just doubled all of your words for absolutely no reason
it makes sense in real life
@cobalt zephyr In case you didn’t notice.... this is a 2D io video game... it’s not supposed to represent real life...
cobalt zephyr
me la pelan cabrones
aug when i know that but still
it seems kinda fair ngl
well
cya
copper vault
scar nerf it literally destroys the ump, mp5, uzi and the silenced smg
worn gust
nah
fathom nimbus
p90 broken btw
lone nest
lul
warped thunder
I hate the fact that you just doubled all of your words for absolutely no reason
Yeah sure whatever if you can read you can read if not too bad
woven oasis
is it even weaker than the original tactical lol
@acoustic crypt 40 damage at epic
copper vault
scar nerf
acoustic crypt
holy 19 damage for the uncommon scar #nerfplz
copper vault
whats the difference between the gold scar and the others
bc they all do 19-20 damage
lone nest
ye
cobalt zephyr
whats the difference between the gold scar and the others
@copper vault exactly , i think its the firing speed and reloading speed which is different
balmy fossil
uzi to
vapid drum
@modern shard hmmm ur saying they never win, but thats funny if they dont win why would the continue playing comp? press x to doubt. Also can you name some prominent oce players? you said about 25 percent of comp play on oce in asia server, can you name a couple reall quick? Some prominent ones? I can name you SEVERAL major eu and east and west players - leadbraw, ss top, emanxuel, glump and blump, sportsgamer, ss english, etc etc
vapid drum
codac is oce?
also its funny how none of those names
are very prominent
in the zr community....
there arent many oce players
modern shard
mate u arent in the zr community
vapid drum
ik
vapid drum
i never said i was in the zr community cuz im not very good at the game
only 2k wins, which is nothing compared to like 10k win players
but the point is
not many oce players
vapid drum
i was, and left. join the server and type my name
modern shard
the players u know are from events and yt
vapid drum
join the zcc server and in the search bar type my name
yes, from events and yt... duh where else
its cuz they are prominent
modern shard
because there are no oce servers there are no oce events
and eu events are wrong time for oce players
vapid drum
i mean im just saying if there are so many oce comp players wouldnt that mean they are good
?
modern shard
so how do they become prominent to yt if they can't play events that get on yt
vapid drum
cuz think about it like this- if so many players are on comp, they prob spend money on the game. the devs alr have their money locked in so they dont need to improve condittions for them because they alr pay money into the game and arent withholding any
modern shard
maybe join the asia community before you make your estimations
vapid drum
if there was a huge amount of people interested in asia/oceania, there would be a lot of prominent asia and oceania youtubers
i mean no offense, but most prominent zr yt are east eu and west
like in general
there might be some prominent asia yt IN the asia community
but in ZR as a while
whole
not
really
vapid drum
@modern shard i guess you make a point there, but even in asia serves
as a whole
not nearly the interest
as eu and east and west
like as a whole on yt
just asia, cuz oce servers are counted in asia servers for now
modern shard
because the game revolves around usa players
they are priority
thats why there is an america day chest
vapid drum
i think its an america day chest because A) devs come from america B) most players who play zombs are in the US
its not the game that revolves around the US, its the US which revolves around zombs, u get what i mean
modern shard
yang is from asia
vapid drum
he lives in the us
he is FROM asia yes
he lives in the US pretty sure (based on his twitter)
i am from asia as well
but i live in the US
so far i countered every point you said, anymore points for oce servers?
sturdy mica
@rose lion i think u should buff the ar-15 to make faster because it does low damage and if the commuinty does not like that but i think it would be good if u made the more aimable.
and @rose lion dm for a seson idea pls
copper vault
@sturdy mica dont ping devs and second the ar-15 is tied with the scar for best ar so idkwym
brisk bloom
^
vapid drum
i dont think we should buff the ar 15 but i think the scar beats out the ar 15 now
barely but i think the 20 damage on the legednary scar per shot is too good not to pick up
cuz its legit a 5/10 shot
proven sandal
buff mg36 or remove it from airdrops
sturdy mica
yea they should take the mg36
dusk sapphire
WTF mg36 is a great gun now. It already got buffed
golden hinge
yeah mg36 has the biggest mag now
vapid drum
scar nerf on fire rate a bit more keep the damage to differentiate it from the m4
slate jolt
yea
golden gull
i think of the scar being slow firerate compared to like the ar-15 or m15
copper vault
nope
pallid tapir
NERF THE FLAMETHROWER
copper vault
lol
hushed bluff
brave basalt
Dont know if im reviving a discussion around oce servers
but I've wanted oce servers for a long time as well. There's a fair few of us that I can count
Edit: fair few = a lot
copper vault
a few means a full bot lobby basically
like how many oce players would you say are there
brave basalt
I want to clarify, first of all none of us really know if there's enough oce players or not. I think the first step is for someone on the dev team to discuss this or take a poll
As an oce player, I notice enough players to make me think an oce server would be slightly emptier but not dead
copper vault
kinda tho
brave basalt
A second option is just for the server locations be more accomodating
perhaps the asia server could be moved to singapore, or perhaps just ping-optimise the server's config
copper vault
it is in Singapore and look Australia is a lot closer than people up north
granite drum
NERF THE GOO GUN PLLLLZZZZ
brave basalt
If its in singapore then thats fine. There could be ping optimisation then
granite drum
It’s too op
brave basalt
Devs, there's a ping glitch for a majority of OCE players that makes their asia ping 300ms+ instead of 100ms
this forces them to play on US West at 160-200ms ping, that at least can be solved
Otherwise the weapon switch delay works in the lower-skilled/higher-ping's favor so thanks for that update
Mehe, the basic point about empty lobbies: I simply want to know how many OCE players we have
From my experience there's a lot. That's because I make friends with oce people and seek them out
tidal coral
buff ksg
trim dome
pallid tapir
nerf flamethrower
kind frost
the ksg is worse than the tactical shotgun dawg, people dont use it because its not good dawg
lone nest
ye its trash ngl
acoustic crypt
I find the uzi buff kinda annoying on bots, with their accuracy it can easily shreds your hp really fast
haha uzi go brrr
lone nest
cobalt zephyr
add epic weapons on bots and make them do frag rev impulse to boost things up
bots should be a big part of the game
update: bots are more dangerous and are pros now
acoustic crypt
gangsta
cobalt zephyr
react if yes or no
acoustic crypt
with their current accuracy maybe not
acoustic crypt
and bots with snipers is very illegal
cobalt zephyr
maybe not since their aim is bad
why are there uncommon weapons on bots only why not rare and epic
acoustic crypt
I bet bots have better accuracy than 50% of players in asia servers lol
cobalt zephyr
im in asia servers my aim is op
acoustic crypt
good luck finding me xdd
acoustic crypt
anyway bots need too be more restricted if they want to have higher rarity weapons
cobalt zephyr
yes rare bots with rare weapons
and common bots with common weapons
imagine pump on bots
acoustic crypt
I don't want to see them with p90s oh god
cobalt zephyr
oh no
bots are good with smg
im good on shotgun and sniper
reduce the speed on the bots
cobalt zephyr
the bots run rather than shoot
acoustic crypt
do bots have unlimited ammo or something
I have seen them spraying without reloading tooo
:think:
stoic sail
yeah they do
tepid marten
Hello
spice pebble
efdfdfdfd
tribal sealBOT
ya boi#6469 has been warned
ocean hawk
bots have good aim kekw
copper vault
p90 nerf
scar nerf
smgs should have a walk speed nerf or something bc if they get within 3tiles you cant even do anything
pallid tapir
nerf flamethrowers
wild tapir
MY USERNAME Master#8065
primal ether
lol
kindred jackal
nerf flamethrowers
cobalt zephyr
Please do not nerf the flame thrower, if anything it needs a buff, the flame thrower is completely useless.
It does little to no damage most of the time, and you would probably be better off using a different close range weopon, as you can only really use it in the final circle and if you somehow manage to ambush someone
At least make the range longer, or make it do more damage, as this would balance it out better the other close range weopons.
copper vault
bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
cobalt zephyr
Sorry for the rant
copper vault
if you get tagged you get hit for 30
cobalt zephyr
But in head to head combat it's useless
cobalt zephyr
I agree that the time for after- burn is extremely over powered
But it's bad
Really bad
copper vault
no its op
cobalt zephyr
How many kills have you got with a flame thower
Personal not many
Compared to an SMG I've got a lot more
Or any other close range weopon to be infact
I have less sniper kills that I have flamethrower kills, and I'm terrible at sniping
vivid torrent
pls make it so you can get pumps from chests agin
spiral fern
looks good
robust marten
Personally I use it over anything worse than a gold scar
As an AR
But as an SMG it's quite strange as there isn't much falloff damage if any, but there's a slower fire rate
Overall my rating is that it fits legendary status perfectly, although I'm biased as it's my favorite weapon
copper vault
no and no
acoustic crypt
buff awp?
copper vault
no
proud hamlet
more pump
graceful nicheBOT
Crystal#7730 has been warned.
proud hamlet
more pump
fierce umbra
yes
acoustic crypt
raven zenith
vault the ksg and assalt
if youre going to bring in an charge shotgun
that no one uses
if they have an assualt
then ppl should get used to it
and it will be interesting and a new meda
also what about the bolt mk theres not difference between it and the regular bolt
copper vault
um... everyone uses the raid no one uses ksg so get rid of that
raven zenith
bruh
copper vault
and there is a difference where you cant infinitly spam
raven zenith
it doesnt have the range
if shotguns are close range then the assult is a ranged shotgun it doesnt fit
and thats only if its fully charged
it takes quite a while to charge it anyways
copper vault
the raid does 80 base for green and the blue assault does 75
raid shotgun shoots just as far as the assault
and has more knockback
copper vault
bet
raven zenith
well
not the range
the damage
at range
the assult does way more damage at range
copper vault
yeah but it's not meant for range
here look at this 70 damage in 1 shot from that far
raven zenith
YES
copper vault
raven zenith
SHOTGUNS ARENT MEANT FOR RANGE
thats why they should take an shotgun that has range out
nice flicks too
dang
copper vault
not the raid cause if they take the raid out then the spammers will conquer
raven zenith
just nerf the firerate of smgs
and vault the p90
its an easy fix
everyone would be happy
copper vault
yeah except all the spammers
copper vault
yeah i agree shotguns should do a lot of damage up close but do like 10 after 4 tiles
raven zenith
i agree as well
copper vault
bc a person using an smg shouldnt get that close
raven zenith
smgs arent bad its just when ppl get close with the p90 ur ded
slim lagoon
!bal
topaz shale
the mythic smg needs some buff because the p90 does better damage than it even though it pops out bullets like craze
ocean hawk
theres no way the vector does less dps than the legendary p90
the vector's literally meant to be a better p90
with a smaller clip size
copper vault
@topaz shale the vector does 350 damage in 1 mag
ocean hawk
now thats a lotta damage
tbf p90 might do more
because chonky mag size
but if only looking at dps vector should def win
ocean hawk
also the portal grenade in #suggestions :0
would love to see that
jumpscare someone with an entire squad
also ive played with and against p90 users and i can confidently say that ar still beats p90
copper vault
it does but it's so annoying when they rail you for 100 from 4 tiles away
ocean hawk
tru lol
topaz shale
well i got someone who had a vector with a legendary p90
copper vault
bc ur aim was better or you had an advantage
topaz shale
maybe it was health idk
copper vault
like if you control the door in a door fight and you lose ur kinda bad
topaz shale
fr you are a SubZero dev?
worn gust
make goo stronger ngl
worn gust
nah
topaz shale
when stronger
they should make thor's hammer more available
they should buff the msg shotgun
it is bad
no one who is good would pick that up
also the nade launcher is still very bad
cobalt zephyr
yeah
the nade launcher sucks ksg shotgun worst gun ever no dmg AND PUMP SHOULD COME BACK because raid reloads years me keep losing annnndd add gifting plz thanks
cobalt zephyr
the pump and raid whould have the same relod
raid is 2 sec
lol
what if iam in last ammo
copper vault
heal gun to 15 but heals consistantly
sturdy mica
YANG take out the minigun its to op
copper vault
wtf
copper vault
yeah but no need to ping everyone
cobalt zephyr
U guys fix this bug
copper vault
why'd you ping everyone tho
stoic sigil
The names are wrong tho
@cobalt zephyr who rlly cares
copper vault
nerf bots they have lteral aimbot
copper vault
nerf p90, silenced smg, and minigun
dense stump
Make so you can get a free battle pass or and item freezer so you can save deals for a dollar so you can get them when you have the money
dim hemlock
@dense stump Don’t ping developers please. (I saw you ghost ping Luck) Keep this channel on-topic. Thanks :)
sturdy breach
plz nerf the range of the flamethrower
cobalt zephyr
Add Oce servers so it's fair for them so they don't get much lag
dense stump
Pls fish
cobalt zephyr
Buff the SCAR or vault it. It's the worst AR in the game.
stoic sigil
nerf bots they have literal aimbot there hacks are worse than btrz lol
jagged breach
add on OCE servers?
cobalt zephyr
Idk what to tell a bot or player now
proven sandal
Buff the MG36 or remove it from Airdrops to let the XM8 be the only AR in them
cobalt zephyr
@rose lion
if you add community in this server it will make it better for people to come and promote the game
honest path
is anyone there ?
come to voice you can talk to me
anyone
but only one
come on
gets free 1k coins
ocean hawk
how would you add a community? isnt this the community?
fickle epoch
@proven sandal I think they should just remove it cuz it’s basically an m4 with higher fire rate and a bigger mag (90 I think)
proven sandal
thanks for letting me know 🙄
fickle epoch
It’s honestly kinda lame compared to every other mythic weapon
Ur welcome 👍
The only mythic I dislike more than the mg36 is the crossbow (x bow is not that bad but I would still pick any sniper over it)
lean atlas
stuck vapor
MG36 kind of got a buff after the update, it has a clip of 90 instead of 30, and a short reload, so you can keep doing damage when your opponent is reloading
ocean hawk
mg36 is the mythic scar with a chonky clip right?
i use it as a better minigun: mediocre damage but a big enough clip that i can hold down left click and prevent people from walking around corners
lean glacier
aqua mans a superhero so where’s the trident
steady light
iron man suit
formal swan
Nerf bots
Ways to do this:
- Don't let bots kill you after knocking you.
- Make the aim of bots less accurate, to compensate for this they can be allowed to switch weapons, BUT AT A SLOW RATE.
lean glacier
just delete bots all they do is get in your way
iron lintel
:)
stuck vapor
@lean glacier there wouldn’t be enough players in game... lol use your brain
golden hinge
bruh but waiting 1 more minute for more players is a good thing isn't it? more action
lean glacier
lol imagine having to use bots because u cant get enough players thats not just sad thats dissapointing
fickle epoch
Bruh that’s how a lot of real time online multiplayer games work
Like most of them
Almost all
lean glacier
name some
fickle epoch
I don’t play that many just look up the use of bots in a multiplayer game
And u get lists of games that use them
It’s simple business
lean glacier
nothing popped up but what a bot is
cobalt zephyr
Do some about flamethrower it’s so broken
It’s too op
Make it week
Bots just spam u with it
Maybe take it out the game
It’s bad
jagged breach
I guess this goes here...we need oce servers
untold sandal
btw bots come at bad times
like when u dont have guns or like when ur low healths
sometimes those trash bot come pinching on us when we fight with other players
this litterly need to rework about this
@jagged breach
jagged breach
haha yeah
untold sandal
pallid charm
the game would be dead then
and bots are good for kills when you are new
add Cars and boats
make a huge map for the world cup which is coming up and add all the vaulted locations and put them together with the existing locations to make the ultimate world cup Games!
sturdy mica
yang i think u shoul lower the damage of the ball gun its to anoyyong players are spamming it always
hardy shard
make a huge map for the world cup which is coming up and add all the vaulted locations and put them together with the existing locations to make the ultimate world cup Games!
@pallid charm the devs have nothing to do with any competitiveness or anything. The world cup isnt organized by the devs
copper vault
@pallid charm cars and boats are dumb
viral barn
copper vault
scar firerate nerf
lean glacier
fix udp instead of adding healing stuff thats a big game balance once u fix that
copper vault
bc ur telling them to fix your internet
lean glacier
why not
glad aspen
Nerf sticky nades to 30 dmg but stack of 5 (holds 10) @tidal sage
cobalt zephyr
I have a poll go to #suggestions @everyone
heady shell
old pumps back
proud hamlet
yes pumps back plz
acoustic snow
@charred cave
frosty tide
make reload back to normal raid take to long ars take to long snipers take to long the whole game is just reloading weapons its annoying
ocean hawk
@ocean hawk i will show u what i meant wait for few hrs
kekw a few hours
stoic sigil
we need refunding
ocean hawk
you should probably dm me if you'll take a few hours, i feel like scrolling up
untold sandal
ok sure
fickle epoch
I agree that the vectors range should be reduced but I think the minigun is fine as is
ocean hawk
if there's no cover, there's nowhere for minigun to hide, so you can see it coming and start holding down left click
if there is cover, you can play around that and how much minigun slows you down when its being used
vocal jewel
Minigun is easy to counter
ocean hawk
i play with a minigun often becuase of how funny it is and i can personally tell you that its an inoptimal weapon
fickle epoch
Yeah
untold sandal
and i found out that we can wall bang with p90
ocean hawk
fun as heck to use tho
fickle epoch
Just put distance then ar or snipe
untold sandal
bruh thats a lot of damage
fickle epoch
and i found out that we can wall bang with p90
@untold sandal
Wall bang?
untold sandal
ikr
fickle epoch
Rlly u can wall bang with a p90
ocean hawk
no windows or doors? he actually p90d through a wall?
untold sandal
yes
ocean hawk
sphagetti code lmao
fickle epoch
Anyway back to the point
Even if u r good when u use a minigun u can already tell how bad it is
It is a one trick pony sort of thing
U can’t dodge
U move slower than an awp I think
Range is pretty crap and dropoff also makes it pretty much useless
ocean hawk
you can just not aim tho which i think is pretty funny
and its not bad for holding corners
because of its 200 ammo clip
untold sandal
but it help to scare off squad
untold sandal
XD
fickle epoch
Yeah that’s the only good part aside from the fire rate and clip siz> you can just not aim tho which i think is pretty funny
@ocean hawk
Yeah that’s the only good part aside from the fire rate and clip size
ocean hawk
espeically if more than two have a sniper
ocean hawk
i havent met any scenarios where i get to 0 ammo in a sniper
ocean hawk
the reload time is annoying but a neat meta rework imo
fickle epoch
When u die to a p90 spammer u know they have no skill but when a not third party, actually good, decently skilled player who kills u from range, and not when ur healing, with a minigun u know he’s not actual crap
untold sandal
yeah like p90 vs p90
ocean hawk
you can tell if they play around doors and burst two or three shots at a time to get the extra like 8 damage
every bullet counts sometimes
untold sandal
imagine how overpowered it would be if p90was mythical
ocean hawk
thats just a vector lmao
fickle epoch
Yeah then there’s skill but when ur healing or fighting and they 3rd party u or something it’s usually pretty much a bot
ocean hawk
i guess i just have really ammo conservant habits, a lot of people seem to have ammo problems but im personally fine
fickle epoch
you can tell if they play around doors and burst two or three shots at a time to get the extra like 8 damage
@ocean hawk
Yeah then u know that they have skill
fickle epoch
i guess i just have really ammo conservant habits, a lot of people seem to have ammo problems but im personally fine
@ocean hawk
Same
ocean hawk
its just a bit annoying if they use annoying guns
ocean hawk
but i do that all the time so i cant really be mad
fickle epoch
I’m not really that affected at all
untold sandal
yeah but minigun cant do wallbangs
fickle epoch
Yeah
untold sandal
so advantage
ocean hawk
you can start shooting before they get sucked into your house
fickle epoch
Or at least I hope not
untold sandal
xd
ocean hawk
also you can open doors with minigun which is really good for minigun
its a nice way for miniguns to have skill expression
untold sandal
ITS GOOD FOR TRAPS
untold sandal
spamm in the window when they stuck in gas
fickle epoch
Yeah it’s pretty good around the last few circles
Cuz of the spread it’s rlly good in tight spaces
fickle epoch
It I still prefer p90
fickle epoch
Yeah but in a tight space the p90 has a higher move speed but a smaller spread
untold sandal
yeah
fickle epoch
i use smg
@untold sandal
I use the silenced smg
untold sandal
same
fickle epoch
Kk I gtg
untold sandal
bye
untold sandal
we are kidda related
acoustic crypt
are we lol
untold sandal
maths+phy= related
acoustic crypt
maybe
untold sandal
30%
acoustic crypt
HI
ocean hawk
*in phi clan
acoustic crypt
ocean hawk
nice yang
cobalt zephyr
buff the nade launcher