#game-balance

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acoustic crypt
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oh god

copper vault
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it basically just chips away at you health and then they can push you

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like having 2 people

acoustic crypt
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I need someone to say "sounds like a skill issue"
someone do said it

copper vault
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so what do i do

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against it

acoustic crypt
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a. run
b. impulse away

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c. idk

copper vault
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so basically proves my point

raven acorn
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kill it

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just kill it

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but it really just seems like a skill issue

acoustic crypt
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thanks

golden hinge
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Why don't one you guys dm me a clip of getting away or destroying a turret in a small zone?

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without taking a lot of dmg

copper vault
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@raven acorn so what if they throw it in a house and its a house fight

autumn laurel
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Guys turret needs a nerf. Fact.

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Or to be taken out

analog horizon
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Its super rare from what Ive seen

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I only see one like once every 20 games or so

raven acorn
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there should be like a weak spot thingyy

golden hinge
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It should have a 180 degree view, not a 360

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like you pick the angle of it when you throw it

acoustic crypt
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when did y'all pick up the turret to blame

slate jolt
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Buff m14 fire rate or make tommy gun decent

acoustic crypt
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think about how op the m14 would be if that happens lmao

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although do agree with the tommy gun buff, maybe make its firerate 5% faster would do the work

golden hinge
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m4 is basically almost as good as ar15

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bruh

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i don't think you know how much 5% is

copper vault
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5% wouldn't do anything

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thats like your sibling getting a muffin and you get a muffin and 1/20th more a a muffin so nothing

vestal sundial
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hii

acoustic crypt
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yes, I know 5% is a very minimal decimal for it but because its already decent(ish), that can help it to end its barrel faster but not ar-level of fire rate

formal swan
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OCE SERVERS

modest lynx
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Do you think legendary scar beats assault scar now ?

primal totem
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Can you add a smg called rapid fire? This one is insane and its in Fortnite. Also it is better than the P90

keen cargo
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Vector?

neon trench
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spam?

golden hinge
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bruh

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stop taking ideas from fortnite and come up with new ones

heady shell
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fortnite meh

stuck vapor
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Legendary scar is still not as good as assault scar, because of the slow fire rate and movement speed.

ocean hawk
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i think the pump nerf was fine (10 dmg kekw) but i will agree that turret seems a bit overturned for its most useful ability, zoning houses

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also i love that 180 degree turret range idea

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it doesn’t directly hit the turrets damage, so you won’t stand there and facetank it (that should never be allowed to happen). however, it allows for more skill expression from both sides.

formal swan
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Oce servers

copper vault
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be patient

acoustic crypt
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I wish there's someone out there to make a video about why oceania (and others like africa) servers aren't there yet

copper vault
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um because they cost money like why dont you pay for it

acoustic crypt
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yeah, its that simple but why don't those people who begs for it don't understand?

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its been more than a year that they have asking for it, no matter how many people tells them why it hasn't happened

golden hinge
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because their iq is so low

hardy shard
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Fax

vapid drum
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no its because those servers wont make them any money. Infact its more like there iq is too high

crimson needle
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nerf vector

acoustic crypt
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no u

copper vault
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well buff pump or nerf p90/vector

acoustic crypt
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no u

jaunty yarrow
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pump is still fine...

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Nades need more buff

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vector needs lower range

acoustic crypt
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vector already has a short range bruh

acoustic crypt
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I see aimboters in asia servers a lot these days

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luckily I think they were all punished and I haven't seen them since when I reported them

heady shell
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proof?

acoustic crypt
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nah I don't have any so you can just think that I'm lying ||maybe I am after all||

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i played on mobile servers so I have a limited vision but when I was close to them its exactly like they're aimbotting

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yeah again, I can be very wrong

sacred echo
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Pls reduce the speed of the vector and the p90 breh ._.

cobalt zephyr
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Who doesnt like nade launcher?

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Ping me

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But

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I have something to say

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Dont remove it its op when with reverse impulse

torpid stream
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For some reason i find the assult shotgun better than the pump now and use it instead

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@cobalt zephyr I don't find it that good because of the accuracy and i can get better results from say a hunting rifle or deagle but what are ur strats with it?

cobalt zephyr
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Pretty good actually

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Just put rev impulse first

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Or snowman

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@torpid stream

torpid stream
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Oh i might try it thanks for the tip m8

copper vault
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grenade launcher sucks bc it does 25 damage and takes so long to exploded you can run at it push it away and then run away again

torpid stream
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lmao

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tbh i have actually been picking the machine gun up recently and getting a few kills with it

copper vault
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the minigun?

torpid stream
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yep

copper vault
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its not really that good bc you move so slow and it takes too long to reload

torpid stream
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true but just temporarily the 10 damage can cuase serious havac

copper vault
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yep

torpid stream
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@copper vault favourite weapon?

copper vault
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ar-15

torpid stream
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sigh everyones favourite 😦

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wouldn't u prefer Scoped m4

copper vault
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i prefer ar15 bc i carry a pump and its kinda a mix between ar and smg

torpid stream
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ah ok

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Tbh my fave combo is ar-15 assult shotgun and a green/purple/legendary bolt

copper vault
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same but pump

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assault does like 65 damage

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pump does like 90

torpid stream
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i know but recently i started using it and it works better for my play style

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i usually open a door shoot run back let them run at me and shoot twice

copper vault
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for me i think pump is better bc it is quick 100 damage

torpid stream
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yer true

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i'm more passive

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40%passive 60%aggressive

copper vault
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100% aggressive

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even if in under 100 aggressive bc i could get meds if i win

ocean hawk
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i played a few games yesterday and generally tried to be annoying as possible

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miniguns and p90s with revs, double sniper rifle, etc

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and i can conclude that the minigun is a suboptimal weapon

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it shreds, but slowly

cobalt zephyr
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My fav gun is AWP

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But also pump

torpid stream
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@cobalt zephyr fancy palying duo's with me?

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t

cobalt zephyr
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Later

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Request me

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Im blackkatana#8396

torpid stream
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Great i will thanks :))

cobalt zephyr
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Ok

umbral gyro
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@wide depot I think the Assault Shotgun is fast enough to the point where the Pump doesnt need a Speed Boost. Maybe a Damage Buff but that's it imo.

wide depot
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.-. It’s reaaaaly slow tho, I’m talking about the pump shotgun, you agree tho, it’s extremely slow and basically useless in door fights now

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Assault is fine, um

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I never use it ._.

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cobalt zephyr
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:-||

warped thunder
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.-. It’s reaaaaly slow tho, I’m talking about the pump shotgun, you agree tho, it’s extremely slow and basically useless in door fights now
@wide depot
If you are complaining about speed,try using your fists then swap to your shotgun to deal damage

crystal plaza
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Remove the Goo Gun.

copper vault
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no

crystal plaza
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It’s literally just a spam weapon. No skill is required to use the weapon. Let’s spammers get away with spamming. Makes the game not fun for players who are actually trying to skillful and not spam.

fallow current
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ok here is my “un” subjective reason, setting aside the fact that I like using the goo gun: The goo gun is considered a spam weapon in most cases, but it’s a bit exaggerated. The fire rate and mag size balances out the damage dealt. The only reason why most people complain is because of their bad movement. Yes, I agree that the goo gun is annoying if you get tagged with it, but that’s all the reason why your movement needs work. The speed of the goo gun is also relatively slow for it to be considered a spam weapon. Anyways what I’m trying to say is that u need to work on ur movement.

acoustic crypt
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to put simply, sounds like a skill issue

fallow current
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ur right

crystal plaza
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@fallow current why did you have to bully me here too 😭

fallow current
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i think I sent it here first

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but u didn’t see it

copper vault
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skill issue

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the goo gun is kinda bad with trash dps and only gets good dps in combos like sniper, goo, ar or pump goo.

crystal plaza
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Ok if you’re doing a combo with the goo gun then whatever but if you’re just straight up spamming the goo gun the entire fight it’s a frustrating fight

copper vault
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um well its not that bad

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you should be able to dodge it. its like 5 green rpgs coming at you

fallow current
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The goo gun is one of the most elaborate weapons out there

crystal plaza
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Not when you’re face to face with your opponent and they’re spamming tf out of goo gun and you’re trying to do AR and pump combo

fallow current
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lol

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I think the goo gun is more like an intimidating weapon

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it slowly drains ur health down from time to time but u can try to take down ur opponent during that interval

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sometimes dodging isn’t the best option

frigid wyvern
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@fallow current youve killed me before lmfao

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yo your smart af

crystal plaza
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Bruh

stuck vapor
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Yea I’m a big bt23 fan bro

copper vault
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i feel like bolt needs a 4 damage buff

fallow current
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bolt is fine as is

copper vault
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but compared to the semi and hunting which do 40 and 35 all you have to do is hit 2 shots compared to it

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like semi was buffed

fallow current
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The mag size was reduced

copper vault
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and hunting rifle has fast bullet speed making it easier to hit shots

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but the damage was buffed by 8

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or 6 idk

fallow current
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it’s still a sniper though lol

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not to mention an epic and legendary one as well

copper vault
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semi should be nerfed to same sight as a bolt

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hunting is finr tho

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bc double semi is still op

fallow current
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lol

crystal plaza
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Semi auto should be left alone it’s fine rn

copper vault
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um...

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ok

vital rock
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Maybe have like a sound effect when u get a kill idk

copper vault
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why

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you get a message

golden hinge
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I think it's a cool idea

copper vault
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like a dung

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ding

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its lame

brisk shore
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Nerf p90, by decreasing its fire rate or mag bullets or damage. It’s wayyyy too op.

cobalt zephyr
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same with the vector

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wayy to op

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at least it is a bit rarer than the p90

copper vault
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vector is way too op

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it can do the same amount of damage as a pump in like half a second

static zenith
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Both are very op I agree

golden hinge
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lol what about suppressed smg

static zenith
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And silenced msg

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Smg

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All spray guns are pretty much op

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They all need a nerf

copper vault
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here is why pump needs a buff
a pump is meant to do a lot of damage up close but close to nothing longer range.
any person using an smg should never come close enough to a pump for it to do 100 damage
you now need a purple to even do 100 damage

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point 2 is my main point tho

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and point 1

static zenith
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Exactly

copper vault
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like p90 is meant to counter pump like it did before the update but now it just destrays bc everyone just gets like a green pumop early game and does 89 damage

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but the spammer gets them

static zenith
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Spammers are annoying

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And they always follow you

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Is it just me that think that pc players have aimbot 😂😂😂 when I go up against a pc player with a sniper, they know where you’re going and they can stretch there aim out so they get a direct hit...I might be a bit biased for saying this because I’m a mobile player lol

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Example I just played a game I had 10 kills and I was the last on my team, there was a full squad left and one had a mini gun two had gold p90’s and a vector and I obviously lost like they should fix that were you aren’t allowed at least 4 sprayes

cobalt zephyr
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So in conclusion:

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Nerf the spray weapons and buff the pumps at close range and remove all of their damage at long range

static zenith
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Yes

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I just played a solos game and these kids were teaming up and sprayed me with the flamethrower and vector

modern mountain
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Lmao

static zenith
copper vault
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a pump is meant to do a lot of damage up close but close to nothing longer range.
any person using an smg should never come close enough to a pump for it to do 100 damage
you now need a purple to even do 100 damage

acoustic crypt
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now I know why people are using a weird rpg+assault combo

copper vault
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why

acoustic crypt
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good long range and mid-range I guess?

formal swan
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implement steroids into the game

copper vault
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no this game doesnt copy surviv. io

torn oasis
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No spray are good

cobalt zephyr
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add an OCE server

umbral falcon
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Comp zr gamemode would be cool

odd mica
still quest
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good long range and mid-range I guess?
@acoustic crypt yes thats it thats why i think

frigid wyvern
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lol

velvet raven
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un-nerf pump

frigid wyvern
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nades should do 90

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and pump should get 5 dmg boost

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lol

inner drum
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lol

hoary delta
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@copper vault i was copying it before but now it does have different ideas wich is REALLY GOOD

copper vault
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yeah

arctic condor
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how do i join a clan

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im knew lol

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Can anyone test me or..

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i was hoping i could join Juice

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or overkilled

copper vault
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yeah first off wrong channel and you can join clans in #clans-talk but juice, instinct, vanguard, and sixth sense are all closed rn

harsh fiber
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?

winter blade
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Pls NERF the MINIGUN pls its not good Nerf it it does 10 now pls nerf it to like 7 again its anoying because spamers and sparyers use it a lot now before it was balence now ITS TTO OP nerf it

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pls?

ocean hawk
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aim

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no ❤️

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but what does that say tho

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nah sorry

tribal sealBOT
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craggy crescent
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nerf shuriken

golden hinge
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bro

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don't put links, or advertise here

peak tusk
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plz can you sub

golden hinge
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no

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go advertise in different discord servers, this isnt' the place

peak tusk
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plz

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can you

golden hinge
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omg

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no

fickle epoch
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Someone ban this dude

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Like u were told thrice man give it up

ocean hawk
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ping minimods if y’all really need to

cobalt zephyr
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buff punp

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its wayy to underpowered

golden hinge
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yang's not gonna do it, he prob looks at what the pros want, and do the opposite so that way noobs have a better time, and then they toxic laugh emote, and then people quit the game

harsh fiber
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brb

acoustic crypt
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that's how the game grows popularity

ocean hawk
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ok why is everyone complaining the pump is still fine

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it can still 100-0 people

acoustic crypt
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easy solution is just adapt to it

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but its the zombsroyale community is like rocks (no offense)

ocean hawk
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opposite of what pros want isn’t necessarily good for new people

acoustic crypt
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for example the silence smg

ocean hawk
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i don’t know much about pros but hopefully they have enough game sense to not only be able to play in static metas

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oh hey unrelated: i know goo gun dmg over time stacks, but does flamethrower damage over time stack too?

acoustic crypt
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no I don't think so

ocean hawk
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aight thx

golden hinge
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you need a purple to 100 to 0 and if you miss one bullet, then it's not 100 to 0

swift thicket
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nerf shuriken damage and spawn amount and nerf minigun range

woven oasis
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shuriken damage is ok

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lo

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l

acoustic crypt
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nerF sMOKE GrenadE plZ

raven acorn
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lmaooooooooooo

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can we vault smoke grenades?

copper vault
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can we get a p90 nerf

cobalt zephyr
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add OCE server

copper vault
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donmt spam it

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@cobalt zephyr you realize it costs money to set up servers anyways

scenic scroll
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lmao

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hes correct

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money doesn't grow from trees

golden hinge
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it does because money is paper

acoustic crypt
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😑

burnt crypt
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BOMB İS 52 ?
???

worn gust
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Bring Thor’s hammer back and don’t do anything with grapples

cobalt zephyr
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#Bring back hammer

covert smelt
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#Bring back hammer

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every body spam it

whole burrow
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fix chrome bug

hardy shard
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They cant

covert smelt
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what is crombook bug

worn gust
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#bring back hammer

covert smelt
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#bring back thor hammer

meager sun
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#bring back Thor hammer

desert rover
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#FixZrFirst

glass marten
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@peak tusk stop

brave swallow
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#bring back Thor hammer

cobalt zephyr
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#bring back Thor hammer

lament kettle
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#bring back Thor hammer

vapid drum
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not enough people liked yangs post

worn gust
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lament kettle
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@cobalt zephyr @cobalt zephyr @brave swallow we did it lol

cobalt zephyr
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Dude thor hammer is the opposite of balancing.

copper vault
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um i dont know about that

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thors hammer isnt op

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it does 25 damage

slim violet
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Trident > Thors Hammer

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I want the Trident back

copper vault
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yeah

vapid drum
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trident is even more op

cobalt zephyr
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@cobalt zephyr @cobalt zephyr @brave swallow we did it lol
@lament kettle LETS GOOOOOO

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Finally

brave swallow
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yay

burnt crypt
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COME DUO 3

meager sun
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#bring back Thor hammer

snow portal
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BRING BACK THOR HAMMER

slim violet
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Bring back Trident

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y'all buggin

copper vault
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i feel like gassies are kinda op

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and bots need to be changed to where they dont just do 50 damage with an ak before you can see them

sly tree
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?warn @cobalt zephyr advertising YouTube links in the wrong channel, use #showcase

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@graceful niche

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cobalt zephyr
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Kek

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nerf third party

copper vault
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nerf silenced smg its still op

pastel mountain
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nerf miniguns they too op now spammers kill sweats

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and nerf flame thrower

cobalt zephyr
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Decrease the range of the Dlame throuwer

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Decrease range of flame thrower

paper sonnet
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Nerf miniguns or vault them pls

arctic condor
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Add a new best sniper like a heavy sniper

sly python
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Dm me if wana play duo

cobalt zephyr
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wrong chat dude

wraith burrow
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bring back trident but nerf the damage

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Buff tacs

trim dome
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id prefer thors hammer though

old ridge
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anyone wanna play with me

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im bored to the maxSadandFrozen

steady geode
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ZR would probably be the best game ever created if they expanded to Xbox, PlayStation and switch. Pls react if you agree.

copper vault
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vault or nerf flamethrower

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its 20 damage a bullet

marble harness
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Nah

acoustic crypt
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let's abuse it!

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okno

ocean hawk
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12 damage with an insane fire rate, range stretching to basically the edges of your screen, and a burn effect that lasts for quite a bit

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p90 but better

woven oasis
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p90 is faster lol

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flamethrower is more consistent, deals 11 damage with 0 dropoff

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12 damage when you hit the fire tick at the same time

acoustic crypt
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the flames are like so fast

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I've never seen something that physical

ocean hawk
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flamethrower can be 1v1ed by basically every full auto gun in the game at the range p90 performs at

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but i like to use flamethrower when shooting through a house

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medium range, but heavily obstructed by obstacles

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not sure if poking with an ar works better but the burn from the flamethrower is some nice placebo

warped thunder
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the burn damage i feel like its there for the sake of rewarding those who use it with more damage over time

copper vault
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but 20 damage a bullet is insane

ocean hawk
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12ish a bullet

fervent token
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e

vocal jewel
copper vault
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@ocean hawk uh it ticks for 2 damage a second for like a lot of ticks

ocean hawk
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tru lmao

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doesnt beat a p90 close range but gives any ar a run for its money

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even at medium range

brittle lotus
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Maybe a good super power power is a zoom out. Every time you get one crystal of the zoom out power, it’s a times two. But it has to be very rare to find

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Devs ping when maybe answered

scenic magnet
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yeah

cobalt zephyr
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nerf third party

runic mist
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🤣 👍

acoustic crypt
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buff trees hitpoints

runic mist
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.

static zenith
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NERF OR TOTALLY DELETE THE VECTOR!!!!

glossy cliff
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Lol

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fallow current
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@sly tree

graceful nicheBOT
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dynoSuccess Expert Guy#1209 has been warned.

fallow current
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🤝

glossy cliff
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ok

vapid drum
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NERF OR TOTALLY DELETE THE VECTOR!!!!
@static zenith no i think its balanced as a MYTHIC AIRDROP weapon. Even then, when i get the vector, i still kinda feel bad its not an AWP

acoustic crypt
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yang has a nuke button don't worry

stuck vapor
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💥💯

warped thunder
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Just use the Inspect tool if you are on chrome and delete the vector yourself easy peasy(this is a joke please don't hunt me)

slim violet
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@.yang hunt

wanton crescent
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Uhh..vector is disgusting..but what can u do about it? It's good for dmg but not good in far ranges..so it is evenly balanced. @vapid drum If you feel like you are bad off using it and or facing it, consider yrself a noob 😂👌

vapid drum
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@wanton crescent what? i legit couldnt understand what u said. If i feel bad when using it im a noob? what?? I feel bad when i get a vector from airdrop instead of an awp. My bad for wanting a higher skill, higher reward weapon

cobalt zephyr
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@agile hedge pls fix vector it crashed my game

wanton crescent
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@cobalt zephyr lol.

copper vault
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buff pump

trim dome
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no

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i think it is good as is

copper vault
#

ARE YOU SERIOUS

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sry caps lock

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do you use pumps or smgs

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a pump is supposed to do damage up close

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and a person using an smg should never be close enough to a person with a pump to be 1 pumped

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anvault or nerf turret

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its a second player

maiden cobalt
#

@static zenith no i think its balanced as a MYTHIC AIRDROP weapon. Even then, when i get the vector, i still kinda feel bad its not an AWP
@vapid drum lmao AWPs are the best mythic, in my opinion. Anyone else agree?

trim dome
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@copper vault bruh there was a time when an epic pump did 40 dmg nearly 6 tiles away and only a third of the shells hit

copper vault
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so

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that was berfed

maiden cobalt
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Umm is that buffed nerfed or both lamo

copper vault
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nerfed

regal current
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xd

rotund dune
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@cobalt zephyr ^^

graceful nicheBOT
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dynoSuccess Infiniti | Combo#2217 has been warned.

cobalt zephyr
#

ty

vapid drum
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@untold ridge ur sugegstion

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is the worst suggestion

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i heard so far

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snipers dont have to be buffed

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just cuz ur good with a bolt

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doesnt mean it has to be buffed

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like i get if u want a sniper buff for an ACTUAL reason

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and i would still disagree but i would be a lot more respectful, but bruh u want it to benefit u

untold ridge
#

I didnt say I wanted to benefit myself, I want it buffed because I think most people think snipers are underated, they are not like shotguns so buffing them would make people more aware of sniper.

acoustic crypt
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I was going to comment on your idea but ok

untold ridge
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also @vapid drum dont boss me around ur not my mom

vapid drum
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boi

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everyone uses a sniper

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its not underrates

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and did i tell u to do anything?

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no

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so im not bossing u around lmao

untold ridge
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literally every game I play people use shotguns

vapid drum
#

this game

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everyone uses snipers

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u obv dont play this game

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that much

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u need a bolt in this game

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to win

untold ridge
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i play it alot

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the game

vapid drum
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then how do u not know everyone uses the bolt?

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most people dont think the bolt is underrated

untold ridge
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i usually get killed with a shotgun

ocean hawk
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agree, bolt's used really often

vapid drum
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then stop walking up to doors

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ye

untold ridge
#

me?

vapid drum
#

this kdis wants a bolt buff cuz he is good with a bolt and not a shotgun

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ye

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if u keep on dying to shotuns

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dont walk up to doors

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check to see if there are people first

ocean hawk
#

if final circle ends up in a place with no cover, you won't have much fun trying to win without a bolt

vapid drum
#

not even that

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u need the FOV

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it gives such a big advantage

ocean hawk
#

i mean i guess you can do some shenanigans with impulses and grapples but eh

untold ridge
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why are u calling me a kid

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i dont walk up to doors

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i get killed with reverse impulse

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duh

vapid drum
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oh my bad ur an adult, but based on what u said earlier, "dont boss me around ur not my mom" u sound like one

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also if u get reverse impulsed, u can hear them take out the reverses

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so shoot before

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and when u travel to them, u actually shoot and kill them first

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even then

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u can escape reverses

untold ridge
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i dont use sound

vapid drum
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unless ur extermeely close

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tahst ur fault

untold ridge
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k

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im not a adult

vapid drum
#

just play with volume then

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i used to not too

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and its so much betetr

untold ridge
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thats loud

vapid drum
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with audio

untold ridge
#

k

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@vapid drum not to be rude or anything but can you type?

vapid drum
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im typing relly fast

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if i type slower i can type a lot better

untold ridge
#

k

vapid drum
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i also dont use formal english cuz this is discord

untold ridge
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i type really fast with no mistakes

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and formal

vapid drum
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oh ur just good at typing then

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idk why ur formal tho

untold ridge
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jkjjjkjkjkj

vapid drum
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thats kinda weird

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lol

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this isnt a job interview

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xD

untold ridge
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okay kid

vapid drum
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lol

untold ridge
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child

vapid drum
#

?

untold ridge
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are u child?

vapid drum
#

kinda sus question lmao

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"teen?"

untold ridge
#

what does sus mean?

vapid drum
#

suspicious

untold ridge
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so you r a teen?

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I am in a really good zombs clan

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thats why my name is cool

formal swan
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banning teamers in solos

untold ridge
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okay

scenic scroll
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!rank

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!role

vapid drum
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im in OK

warped thunder
#

thats why my name is cool
How high of a ego do you have to say that with pride

covert smelt
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@rose lion the p90 is two strong in close rang

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@vapid drum i agrea

copper vault
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pump is supposed to be good in close range bc someone using smg shouldnt take 100 damage from a pmup

tender thicket
acoustic crypt
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"pump is vaulted hell yeah!"

covert smelt
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@acoustic crypt dont wory new shotuns 2 new shotguns

acoustic crypt
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sure

covert smelt
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dont wary also the pump will be in scrims just not in bubs

acoustic crypt
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also yang please activate windows

woven oasis
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I'm just waiting for the m1216

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So I can get the clout

copper vault
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scar nerf please

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its op

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pls

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yang

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bolt is trash pls change it back the draw speed is way too long

spiral lake
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i think that nades nerf were a bit too much and i think buffing the minimum damage to 40 or 50 even would bring nades back into the meta

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Nades are trash now

copper vault
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they buffed them chillllll

minor owl
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Fix reloads

spiral lake
#

wait they buffed nades

copper vault
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yeah

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a little

spiral lake
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since like 12 hours ago??

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat

woven oasis
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3 SECOND RELOAD FOR ARS

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JEEEZ

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THATS WAAAY TOO MUCH

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ars arent going to be worth using for spam anymore

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the ar tier list flipped upside down

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AR-15 is now the worst AR, followed by the M4, SCAR and AK

cobalt zephyr
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bring pump back

copper vault
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no

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the new one is way better

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its has insane draw speed

finite sand
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bring old pump back and keep the new too

acoustic crypt
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lol

copper vault
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no

finite sand
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or keep the heat

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so we can pump reverse

blissful yarrow
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Fix ar's reload speed, make it fast to swithc, make shotguns faster to switch, make snipers faster to shoot and faster to switch, ars are all slow now please fix that, thors hammer op whihc is good

acoustic crypt
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why do people care so much about the pump

woven oasis
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ikr

finite sand
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pump is good

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i mean was

woven oasis
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AR nerf is too much.

finite sand
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yes

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reload at least 1,5 second

woven oasis
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id say maybe 1.5 seconds, even 2 seconds would be better

cobalt zephyr
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new shotguns are trashhhhh

acoustic crypt
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3 seconds is insane lmao

woven oasis
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Uzi is broken now

cobalt zephyr
#

that shotguns deal to less dmg

woven oasis
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they should reduce velocity

finite sand
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yee

woven oasis
#

it has pretty decent range doe

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i wouldnt use it in a door fight but

acoustic crypt
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hold on lemme at least try the update

west marsh
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the reload time is soo much

jovial badger
#

i dont want to play zombs anymore

acoustic crypt
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not stonks

proper dagger
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Scar=op

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Scar and uzi are op now

acoustic crypt
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"scar=op" lol no

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the ak easily knocks it over

quiet basalt
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update is good
~
games all about spraying n wkeying. playing overly aggressive wasnt very punishing because of short reloads across the board. mistakes in positioning/aim/whatever while going for plays were able to be punished too infrequently. the update encourages smarter play.

lately theres been a quicker form of healing introduced to counter this, healing gun, and ARs now actually have a tradeoff for the high range you get out of it. perhaps they could do with a bit of a reduction in reload time, but its a step in the right direction.

draw speed on new pump is faster, feels nice. same with silenced pistol. overall more guns are viable and crafting a loadout/making the choices w that is more involved and has more impact. there are now more tradeoffs for weapons, or at the very least things to consider.

yang himself has said some of the weird switch delays across the board is a bug, so the concerns about skill ceiling overall being lowered can be at least partially dismissed

mg36 good now because of crazy high mag, and reload is still only like 1.5 or 2 seconds, and i think it got a slight firerate buff as well.
bolts been debatably best sniper since the game came out, now its a higher mag but larger reload lower firerate.

in this update at the end of the day, each bullet fired means more compared to pre-update, smarter play is rewarded both on offense and defense.

cobalt zephyr
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Lead answer me !?

heady whale
#

when i switch to sniper its acctualy reloading in the time i cant shen at the moments when i switch so that BRİNG BACK FRİCKİNG OLD ZR

copper vault
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wdym

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@heady whale

heady whale
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sniper reloading even it have full ammo

copper vault
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um no its not

heady whale
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wtf

copper vault
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are you mobile or pc

heady shell
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its good

copper vault
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bolt is gine

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ars are fine

cobalt zephyr
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bring pump back

copper vault
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why

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this new one does more than a pump and has fasrer switches

woven oasis
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@quiet basalt MONKEY YOU BROUGHT UP THE SAME POINT ABOUT AR RELOAD BEING TOO MUCH

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ape.

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im UNSUBBING.

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rn

copper vault
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vector nerf

cobalt zephyr
#

fix eu servers is lagging evrey 5 secs

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i was chill fighting and i got teleported to a gray zone

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xd

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and the reload time is toooo big

neon coral
#

Sooo from what ive seen in the game, did snipers get nerfed?

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the time in between shots is equivalent to the old reload speed and at the end of a couple shots you have a 5 second reload speed?!

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also bring back pump!

cobalt zephyr
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the time in between shots is equivalent to the old reload speed and at the end of a couple shots you have a 5 second reload speed?!
@neon coral ye i saw this it is more a nerf not a buff

neon coral
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raid shotgun is a downgrade from pump

cobalt zephyr
#

eu servers are freezing to mutch times

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xd

neon coral
#

on a more positive note, the battle pass looks sick and nades got buffed 🙂

cobalt zephyr
#

and i get smaller fps now ;-;

neon coral
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nerf shurikens

vague wing
#

ye

vapid drum
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the game goes so much slower now because of the much longer reloads. Its become a lot more boring because its no where near as fast paced as before. I think the AR reload slow down was a good idea, but its way too long. The sniper change is kinda weird, but its alr. I think you should keep the regular bolt, replace the hunting rifle with this, and make it shoot a bit faster as well and reduce damage by 10. The shotguns i like.

hardy shard
#

100% agree

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One of my favorite parts of the game was the fast pace and quick decisions i needed to make

short hatch
#

The free pass is terrible compared to battle pass.

cobalt zephyr
#

The free pass is terrible compared to battle pass.
@short hatch that is the point of the battle pass-

vapid drum
#

this free pass

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has been

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the best compared to the old seasons

neon coral
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bring back the pump!

short hatch
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@cobalt zephyr : I know but it is particularly bad this season

vapid drum
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@short hatch thats cuz the BP

neon coral
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it honestly feels like I'm playing a completely different game now with the new mechanics its almost like I'm playing this game for the first time

vapid drum
#

is so good this seaosn

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ngl

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@neon coral i agree that the sniper should be returned to normal, but the pumps are nice

neon coral
#

new shotty is in better state than snipers ngl

hardy shard
#

Yea

grave valley
#

alright so i was fine with the first balance patch

#

the meta was changed but this

#

WTF

meager sun
#

Ye

#

I mean like I think it’s a litttttle overboard

grave valley
#

I WAS FINE WITH THE LAST ONE BUT THIS

cobalt zephyr
#

can u please just return first balance patch

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bruh

#

@y ang

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plz

grave valley
#

ight so im not gonna get too mad until i play this in pubs and comp

#

but comp is just gonna be so weird

dreamy void
#

I need to talk to the devs about and client freezing (not to do with EU servers)
If any dev sees this, can you add me so I can send a clip of it happening.
Its really annoying and one of the reasons many players are quitting/dont like playing the game.

cobalt zephyr
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return snieprs

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other than that it's fine ig

short halo
#

I suggest they buff scar's fire rate, it fires too slow, so slow that the buffed damage is not used propperly, I suggest that you make it fire a little bit faster

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And, it would help if you made it a little bit more rare

copper vault
#

@short halo the green does 19 damage

short halo
#

Kinda

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But it fires too slow

#

If you miss 2 bullets, you're dead

#

Because if someone does 10 damage with a high firing gun, it has the advantage

#

It can dodge bullets AND also deal tons of damage

#

In this particular case

#

Ar-15 and Ak-47 are the counter to scar

ocean hawk
#

oh heck what got changed

nimble grotto
#

A lot.

ocean hawk
#

just checked announcements

#

are these changes live?

#

bit excited to theorycraft

short halo
#

Wait

#

I just picked up a scar

#

It fires faster

#

I believe

ocean hawk
#

looks like you’ll definitely need to double up on each weapon so you can kill someone before reloading

mild ore
#

All that has to stay the same is travel time, then the changes are only around management

ocean hawk
#

wonder if double bolt still works, but better 🤔

copper vault
#

it does

#

it's like the double semi but 70 damage

short halo
#

Yes

#

It's great

ocean hawk
#

pogchamp

short halo
#

So, scar's fire rate was buffed

#

Good

ocean hawk
#

what would a load out look like? ak for holding corners and pistol for doing damage? hmm

regal moss
#

I think so because everyone’s old load out has been messed up

copper vault
#

wtf no it should be ar pump and sniper

#

pump does pretty good damage

soft siren
#

lol common raid does 80 damage with and insane fire rate

copper vault
#

people are overexaggerating this update because they cant spam ars and now it takes more skill so a lot of people with NO SKILL are complaining

ocean hawk
#

id like to experiment

#

wonder if snowmen will become more meta

soft siren
#

thoughts on new uzi?

copper vault
#

kinds broken close range

soft siren
#

agreed but droppoff makes up for it riht?

copper vault
#

yeah

#

it does like 7 damge gold from far away

#

and the distance is bad

soft siren
#

uzi the new punp?

short halo
#

Hmmm

#

Uzi?

#

Lemme check

copper vault
#

no

#

its not that good

short halo
#

Uzi is bad

copper vault
#

the new shotgun is the new pump it does the same damage as the pump basically

short halo
#

Mp5 is better, I believe

soft siren
#

k

copper vault
#

not since the new update

short halo
#

What

#

Mp5 got nerfed?

copper vault
#

they buffed the uzi

short halo
#

Hmmm

soft siren
#

its a spray god

short halo
#

Imma test

sour pivot
#

so new weapons coming in the update

#

but sad part is the lag still

soft siren
#

i dont like the MKII

short halo
#

Gz

#

Uzi is rare now

soft siren
#

lol

#

i got a gray one a second ago

#

its better than the old purpple uzi lol

ocean hawk
#

:0 new pump feels really good

#

to use

soft siren
#

mythic one tho

ocean hawk
#

kills door pumping tho ;-;

soft siren
#

lol

ocean hawk
#

i mean raid, not the piercing thing

soft siren
#

im getting a lot of golds today

#

dropratees change?

#

Blue scar or gold KA?

short halo
#

Ok

#

I got a Uzi

#

Lemme test this

ocean hawk
#

uzi goes brr

#

might rival p90

#

probably not tho lol

short halo
#

LOL

#

Uzi is broken in close/semi-mid range

soft siren
#

ye

ocean hawk
#

a lotta spread tho

soft siren
#

ya

ocean hawk
#

personally still prefer ar for that range

short halo
#

Yes

ocean hawk
#

so i can aim

short halo
#

Hmmm

#

I use AR for mid/far

#

Shotgun for close/semi-mid (depending)

copper vault
#

i think the longer reload was needed

ocean hawk
#

i cant even feel the longer reload

copper vault
#

the spam and then 1 second and more spam

short halo
#

And SMG for close/semi-mid (depending)

ocean hawk
#

was it changed by only one second or something?

copper vault
#

the longer reload feels normal now

ocean hawk
#

i guess im just habitually really bullet conserving

copper vault
#

people are complaining but they just have to get used to the new guns

short halo
#

Hmmm

#

Uzi kinda feels weird

copper vault
#

it does

short halo
#

I mean

ocean hawk
#

yeah somethins off

short halo
#

It's like the SMG Ak

soft siren
#

ggold uzi op lol

ocean hawk
#

probably the spread

short halo
#

I mean

copper vault
#

shoots 3 bullets at the same time

short halo
#

Ar-15, and Ak-47 shoot 3 bullets

#

Now another one, but smg

#

Kinda feels weird

soft siren
#

nades buff equals happy montage maker

#

why buff the silenced pistol no one is going to use it anyway

short halo
#

Kinda

soft siren
#

gld uzi vs vector

#

uzi win

short halo
#

Actually

#

Green one wins

ocean hawk
#

yea i never picked up nades after nerf

short halo
#

I just did that

ocean hawk
#

might be viable again

soft siren
#

i always have one throwable

ocean hawk
#

my throwables are usually impulses

short halo
#

I dont use

#

I usually have meds

#

If i font find, usually nades, or cactus

#

Maybe even impulses, if i have shotgun+

ocean hawk
#

i switch up my build depending on what the map looks like tho

short halo
#

Yep

#

Ok

#

I need help

#

Green scar or gold Ak?

soft siren
#

tough

#

ak

short halo
#

69 bullets

#

Nice

soft siren
#

blue scar would win tho

short halo
#

Ye

#

Scar is good blue and above

#

Green and down

#

Kinda bad

velvet bay
#

BRING BACK PUMP AAAAA

copper vault
#

no

velvet bay
#

yes

copper vault
#

just use the new shotgun

velvet bay
#

it’s badddd

grave valley
#

tbh

velvet bay
#

idk tbh

grave valley
#

I'll look into it when I can play

#

it deserves a fair chance

copper vault
#

flamethrower ner

glad aspen
#

Increase dragonov speed since the bolt speed was increased:) @rose lion

cobalt zephyr
#

Change the whole system of guns like for real

olive scarab
#

stop copying fornite

cobalt zephyr
#

Put it back to the regular OG guns

#

👍

olive scarab
#

DELETE THE GAME

#

Jk

#

lol

glad aspen
#

.

#

Bolt MK II maybe gets 3 or 4 shots instead of 5? @agile hedge

heady gyro
#

don't ping the devs -_-

static dirge
#

Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -

What changes I think should be made with reasons.

  1. Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.

  2. Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.

  3. New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.

  4. The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)

Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.

#

@supple frigate as u said I wrote it. If Devs don't see this but u do and think I am correct then pkease send this list to their dms or something cuz no one cares about what we want

#

Thanks

copper vault
#

thors hammer movemnets speed buff

#

bullet speed

heady gyro
#

SCARs do too much damage, considering the faster fire rate from before and that you move at the same speed as with other weapons. I would suggest keeping the moving speed and fire rate but nerfing 1-2 dmg less from each rarity, like Phandub said I know the devs probably won't read this or care at all but this is the game balance channel

static dirge
#

Bet they won't read that either 😂

heady gyro
#

mhm

mystic crow
#

@heady gyro this is game balance :/

#

not suggestions channel

static dirge
#

@mystic crow he wrote about how to balance scars u idio.t

#

Pls read b4 saying anything dumb

mystic crow
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SCARs do too much damage, considering the faster fire rate from before and that you move at the same speed as with other weapons. I would suggest keeping the moving speed and fire rate but nerfing 1-2 dmg less from each rarity, like Phandub said I know the devs probably won't read this or care at all but this is the suggestion channel
@heady gyro read the last words

heady gyro
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I'm talking about balancing the scar though

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oh ye sry

mystic crow
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but it's all good

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not complaining

static dirge
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Oh noe my message got hidden

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I will send again

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Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -

What changes I think should be made with reasons.

  1. Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.

  2. Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.

  3. New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.

  4. The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)

Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.

mystic crow
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i agree with the last one

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but i haven't played the new update so i can't say anything about the other ones

austere wolf
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Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -

What changes I think should be made with reasons.

  1. Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.

  2. Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.

  3. New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.

  4. The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)

Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.

jovial badger
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plz vault or take damage of the p90 and still the silenced its cost so many people wins and it so annoying it takes no skill all u do is prrrrrrrrrrra prrrrrrrrra dead thx

bright flax
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Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -

What changes I think should be made with reasons.

  1. Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.

  2. Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.

  3. New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.

  4. The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)

Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.

stuck vapor
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@umbral gyro

static dirge
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No u

dusty cave
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whitch is better mythic scar or scoped m4?

main phoenix
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E

distant kite
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spike nades are kinda

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ok now

copper vault
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i think the new bolt is way better than the old one

mystic crow
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ksg is decent

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the new bolt good

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yea

copper vault
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new bolt is op

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bruh the combos

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but i feel like the old bolt should come back as competition for the bolt II

runic mist
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👀

young locust
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uzi way top op

unkempt cove
small badger
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Add cheeseballs

cobalt zephyr
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😋

covert smelt
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d

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d

cobalt zephyr
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@agile hedge pls join vc pls i wanna talk to u

ocean hawk
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hey has anyone playtested the raid shotgun in door fights?

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technically spamming it shouldnt work because it has the chargeup thing but its still a shotgun and it feels really nice to use in general for some reason

hardy shard
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Its pretty similar to the pump

onyx sonnet
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I like the pump more, the weird lookin new shotgun is super weak and the raid shot gun is ok

formal swan
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I like the raid shotgun but it's not good for switching 😦

ocean dove
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first of all, unvault shotgun (second best gun in the game no cap)
fix the reload its so slow and will effect the gameplay A LOT (as if the last update wasn't bad enough)
make good updates that don't actually effect the gameplay mechanics and trying to increase the skill of other players (bots)
i would just suggest just updating the seasons and weapons in the game
and stop trying to work on the mechanics.

copper vault
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uh thats boring

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raid shotgun half a second reload speed buff

raw basin
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Thoughts on recent update:
Uzi: I agree with the buff, I used to never take an uzi but now it is somewhat serviceable.
Grenades: Love it, no need to change anything
__Bolts:__I don't see the need to have 2 different sniper types. I love the 5 ammo, but it is taken away because the time between firing one shot and another shot is almost like if you were to reload a traditional bolt. Then you have to actually reload it.
Shotguns: I disagree with the pump takeout. I like how the Tactical Shotgun 2.0 penetrates through 1 person and hits another, but the nerfed reload speed makes it pedestrian. The Raid Shotgun is a glorified assault with less reload speed. If we are keeping the Raid Shotgun, please let us boost it all up and then switch weapons without losing our boost.
Cactus Bomb: Love the idea, but decreasing damage makes it even out to original cactus
AR's: Scar is a little powerful, reload times aren't that bad, people are overreacting.
Silenced Pistols: Love it
Thor's Hammer: Love it, maybe increase drop rate more. I have played 2.5 hours today and have not seen it in game once.
Season: Amazing. Thank you for that.

These are just my opinions

cobalt zephyr
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Yep juste perfect@raw basin

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I love thé New update :)

wet vale
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i have a few suggestions that i think are kind of widely agreed on by the community, compiled into a list:

  1. return the bolt to normal. it seems that most people liked it just fine how it was before (except maybe keep the way it looks, thats cool), and if you still think its overpowered then maybe increase the reload by a tiny bit (i.e. 1/2 a second?)

  2. the scar needs a tiny damage nerf. not a lot, only 1-2 dmg per bullet, just enough to make it more equal with other ARs.

  3. the shotgun category is, lets just say, not the greatest at the moment. shotguns were a huge part of gameplay for the competitive side, and now that the pump is gone it kind of sucks ngl. if you dont want to bring back the pump, the damage could be increased and the reload decreased for the raid shotgun.

  4. buff the assualt scar. it is way underpowered compared to the scar now, and needs a damage buff

  5. AR reload time is fine with me, i dont think it is a very big deal as opposed to some people, id say leave it!

finally id just like to say thank you for finally updating the game, and although it wasn't the greatest, it is a change like we have been asking for, so thanks!

raw basin
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@wet vale .5/sec is quite a lot of time, other than that, i agree

golden hinge
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bruh everyone is trash talking the new bolt, but like you can hit insane combos and swaps

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like you don't have to reload

copper vault
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keep both bolts

raw basin
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bruh everyone is trash talking the new bolt, but like you can hit insane combos and swaps
@golden hinge agree, i live hitting the deagle-ar switches with the bolt, the problem is it takes so long to shoot a bullet after shooting one

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love*

cobalt zephyr
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Bring Pump Back And Remake Snipers Reload

golden hinge
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but can't you shoot a bolt, then ar, then switch back and shoot immediately?

cobalt zephyr
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i dont think so

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ima go and cry in bath until evreything will be normal

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cya 👋

golden hinge
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lol

cobalt carbon
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Buff The scar and drop the reload time of the new shotgun

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Well the other idea should help put

warped thunder
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Really feel like for the RAID shotgun it should charge even when you're not holding it

copper vault
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no dumb thats just a pump then bc its always fully charged

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what it should do is stay charged when you switch guns so you can still hit them for 130

woven oasis
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introducing the new shotgun, RAID shadow legends

warped thunder
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what it should do is stay charged when you switch guns so you can still hit them for 130
@copper vault Probably should have added that part my bad

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introducing the new shotgun, RAID shadow legends
@woven oasis Use code:RAID for a free skin and $1 worth of gems also a free chest

woven oasis
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lmfao

torn ember
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idea: og bolt has uncommon to epic rarity, and new bolt has rare to legendary rarity. the differences being the og bolt has one shot but reloads faster, while the new bolt has 3 shots but reloads slower.

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new bolt has slightly higher damage, but also has slower draw speed

golden hinge
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nah

copper vault
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but the draw speed is the same]

golden hinge
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draw speed is like half the gun

torn ember
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draw speed is like half the gun
@golden hinge okay, not that part then

golden hinge
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good idea, I love it besides snipers are sometimes difficult to find so having 2 types of bolts would make it a little better

torn ember
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good idea, I love it besides snipers are sometimes difficult to find so having 2 types of bolts would make it a little better
@golden hinge thank you 🙂

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another idea: bring back the pump the same as it was except it has uncommon to epic rarities, and slightly buff the kgs so it isn’t horrible

pallid tapir
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nerf the flamethrower

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and increase the draw speed on the bolt, its kinda hard to pump snipe now

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also i thought that you buffed frags, they do the same dmg

golden hinge
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nah they're a lot better

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draw speed of the bolt is rly good

raw basin
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not draw-fire speed @golden hinge

woven oasis
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i think

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i think thats the point

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????

stuck vapor
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the reload speed on raid shotgun is insanely slow. correct me if I’m wrong but I think the reload speed should be decreased, there’s not enough time in close range fights to reload a shotgun for 2 seconds just to get one shot off.

ocean hawk
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the raid shotgun basically has the same reload speed as pump?

copper vault
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no

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pump was like 1 seconds or 1.5

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second*

dusk sapphire
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reloads are completely broken. All the spam weapons have less reload times than non spam weapons.. BOLT is brokken. Overall 4/10 update. IN zr for every good thing comes something worse

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Raid shotgun way too op

stuck vapor
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op???

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Bruh

stable wadi
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Ngl the shotguns are doodoo reload

raw basin
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Thoughts on recent update:
-Uzi: I agree with the buff, I used to never take an uzi but now it is somewhat serviceable.
How to "fix:" Keep it the same.
-Grenades: Love it, no need to change anything
How to "fix:" Keep it the same.
-Bolts: I don't see the need to have 2 different sniper types that are virtually the same. I love the 5 ammo, but it is taken away because the time between firing one shot and another shot is almost like if you were to reload a traditional bolt. Then you have to actually reload it.
How to "fix:" Either revert bolt back to usual and make Bolt Mk 2 its own weapon, or increase switch-shot time and the time in between bolt shots.
-Shotguns: I disagree with the pump takeout. I like how the Tactical Shotgun 2.0 penetrates through 1 person and hits another, but the nerfed reload speed makes it pedestrian. The Raid Shotgun is a glorified assault with less reload speed. If we are keeping the Raid Shotgun, please let us boost it all up and then switch weapons without losing our boost.
How to "fix:" Please unvault pump, keep Raid and KSG Shotguns as weapons, make Raid keep boost, even if players switch weapons, and please decrease reload time.
-Cactus Bomb: Love the idea, but decreasing damage makes it even out to original cactus

the same, but buff damage back to 10.```
-**__AR's:__**  Scar is a little powerful, reload times aren't that bad, people are overreacting. 
```How to "fix:" Decrease scar damage by 1-2, keep or revert reload.```
-**__Silenced Pistols:__** Love it
```How to "fix:" Keep it the same.```
-**__Thor's Hammer:__** Love it, maybe increase drop rate more. I have played 2.5 hours today and have not seen it in game once.
```How to "fix:" Increase drop rate```
-**__Season:__** Amazing. Thank you for that.
```How to "fix:" Keep it the same.```
median ledge
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DAMMMM

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THAT IS NICEEEEEE

formal swan
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ok imo I feel like yang should revert the ars back to their usual reload time

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well at least the guns that aren't the scar

kind frost
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why did they change the appearance of the scar?
its just personal preference, but it looks so ugly now

formal swan
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@kind frost yeah I agree lmao. The scar looks good but it doesn't flow with the look of the game tbh

acoustic crypt
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they change just too state how much of a thicc boi it is

cobalt zephyr
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@kind frost yeah I agree lmao. The scar looks good but it doesn't flow with the look of the game tbh
@formal swan

Yeah right

cobalt zephyr
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Bring Pump Back And Change Snipers Reload Time.

cobalt zephyr
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yeah the time between firing another shot is the same as reloading the old bolt and then we have to reload it again

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yup

copper vault
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@cobalt zephyr no actually i think ur just a player who shoots 5 sniper bullets in a row and if you had any skill whatsoever you would realize you can shotgun, sniper, ar and then while you're shooting another gun the bolt II will be ready to shoot again whilst with the old bolt youy had to wait an extra second to shoot a second sniper bullet

vital rock
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FIX THE SNIPERS

granite fern
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Nerf p90 decrees fire rate increase reload

dusk sapphire
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mmm raidshotgun too op. Maybe add some knockback so the person moves back thus making the pump do less.

granite fern
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The reload of raid shotgun balances it

dusk sapphire
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no, you can completely destroy someone with the raid shotgun with all of its bullets.

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the reload comes after the person dies

cobalt zephyr
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why cant i play this game on imac from discord library

copper vault
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bc its windows only

grave valley
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thoughts

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i love it

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everything

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i was skeptical at first but after playing it it has just made the game so fresh and new

icy mural
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@vital rock P90 is fine since its not a long range weapon

vital rock
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@icy mural Wdym I said to fix the Sniper

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Breh

torn ember
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bring back old bolt

raw basin
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no actually i think ur just a player who shoots 5 sniper bullets in a row and if you had any skill whatsoever you would realize you can shotgun, sniper, ar and then while you're shooting another gun the bolt II will be ready to shoot again whilst with the old bolt youy had to wait an extra second to shoot a second sniper bullet
@copper vault tough to do when draw-shot time is so high

mortal solstice
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bring bad old bolt and shotgun cause the game meta is actually broken now. if you get a good spam weapon you automatically win whereas before, you actually needed skill to win

copper vault
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@raw basin did they change it?

icy mural
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@vital rock haha sorry It was meant for @granite fern

raw basin
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@raw basin did they change it?
@copper vault Yes, draw-fire speed has been increased by a few tenths of a second

torn ember
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bring bad old bolt and shotgun cause the game meta is actually broken now. if you get a good spam weapon you automatically win whereas before, you actually needed skill to win
@mr.poop#0218 THANK U

copper vault
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how is the new shotgun bad

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and the new bolt?

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@torn ember

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would you prefer a pump or the raid

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bc pump us still in the game

torn ember
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bc pump us still in the game
@copper vault i would prefer the pump over the raid bc the pump doesn’t need to charge to do max damage. i realize that a lot of people like the raid so removing it wouldn’t be smart. i suggest that they add pumps back in chests but only in uncommon to purple rarities. i also think that they should slightly buff the kgs so it’s not worse than the P2000 pistol, and i also think they should keep the new bolt, (without load time to shoot when u switch to it) and revert the old bolt to what it was (1 ammo) except with a 1.25 second reload.

solemn forum
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I liked the old bolt better

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How do u charge the pump

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Id kow how to do it

copper vault
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just hold it out

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red bar

solemn forum
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Oh

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Do u press a button?

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Or it does it automatticly

copper vault
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automatic

torn ember
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Or it does it automatticly
@solemn forum yep once u switch to it a red bar goes up on the gun once the red bar can’t go any further that’s when it’s max damage.

cobalt zephyr
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ping

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pls snipe

undone gulch
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Nerf Raid but keep charge when you switch

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@rose lion

copper vault
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no raid is fine

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but yeah charge should be kept

harsh dome
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Who wants to trade accs

acoustic crypt
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its illegal we don't do that here

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someone ban pls

cobalt zephyr
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the pump and the bolt shoudl be back there reload time is good

acoustic crypt
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imo its just overused before so they "nerfed" it

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not that its bad now so chill out a bit

cobalt zephyr
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k

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wait

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dude

acoustic crypt
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yes

cobalt zephyr
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how u get a higher rank

acoustic crypt
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in where?

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this server or the game

glossy cliff
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Prob zombs

cobalt zephyr
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I'm not joking when I say this, but I've opened 200 airdrops and I've NEVER GOT THE THOR HAMMER YET. It was better back when the thor hammer had a separate drop

devout oyster
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lol

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my teammate got the thors hammer in his first airdrop this season

cobalt zephyr
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gee

acoustic crypt
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I don't even notice the thors hammer was in the game again in my first match this season lol

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the latency feels a bit worse (like spikes up 1000 ping again, on my network connection) but its understandable

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and with the reload speeds of many guns being slow every match seems chill

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oh yeah hooray the scythe inn free pass I guess

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that's my thoughts