#game-balance
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it basically just chips away at you health and then they can push you
like having 2 people
I need someone to say "sounds like a skill issue"
someone do said it
so basically proves my point
thanks
Why don't one you guys dm me a clip of getting away or destroying a turret in a small zone?
without taking a lot of dmg
@raven acorn so what if they throw it in a house and its a house fight
there should be like a weak spot thingyy
It should have a 180 degree view, not a 360
like you pick the angle of it when you throw it
when did y'all pick up the turret to blame
Buff m14 fire rate or make tommy gun decent
think about how op the m14 would be if that happens lmao
although do agree with the tommy gun buff, maybe make its firerate 5% faster would do the work
m4 is basically almost as good as ar15
bruh
i don't think you know how much 5% is
5% wouldn't do anything
thats like your sibling getting a muffin and you get a muffin and 1/20th more a a muffin so nothing
hii
yes, I know 5% is a very minimal decimal for it but because its already decent(ish), that can help it to end its barrel faster but not ar-level of fire rate
OCE SERVERS
Do you think legendary scar beats assault scar now ?
Can you add a smg called rapid fire? This one is insane and its in Fortnite. Also it is better than the P90
Vector?
spam?
fortnite meh
Legendary scar is still not as good as assault scar, because of the slow fire rate and movement speed.
i think the pump nerf was fine (10 dmg kekw) but i will agree that turret seems a bit overturned for its most useful ability, zoning houses
also i love that 180 degree turret range idea
it doesn’t directly hit the turrets damage, so you won’t stand there and facetank it (that should never be allowed to happen). however, it allows for more skill expression from both sides.
Oce servers
be patient
I wish there's someone out there to make a video about why oceania (and others like africa) servers aren't there yet
um because they cost money like why dont you pay for it
yeah, its that simple but why don't those people who begs for it don't understand?
its been more than a year that they have asking for it, no matter how many people tells them why it hasn't happened
because their iq is so low
Fax
no its because those servers wont make them any money. Infact its more like there iq is too high
nerf vector
no u
well buff pump or nerf p90/vector
no u
vector already has a short range bruh
I see aimboters in asia servers a lot these days
luckily I think they were all punished and I haven't seen them since when I reported them
proof?
nah I don't have any so you can just think that I'm lying ||maybe I am after all||
i played on mobile servers so I have a limited vision but when I was close to them its exactly like they're aimbotting
yeah again, I can be very wrong
Pls reduce the speed of the vector and the p90 breh ._.
Who doesnt like nade launcher?
Ping me
But
I have something to say
Dont remove it its op when with reverse impulse
For some reason i find the assult shotgun better than the pump now and use it instead
@cobalt zephyr I don't find it that good because of the accuracy and i can get better results from say a hunting rifle or deagle but what are ur strats with it?
Oh i might try it thanks for the tip m8
grenade launcher sucks bc it does 25 damage and takes so long to exploded you can run at it push it away and then run away again
lmao
tbh i have actually been picking the machine gun up recently and getting a few kills with it
the minigun?
yep
its not really that good bc you move so slow and it takes too long to reload
true but just temporarily the 10 damage can cuase serious havac
yep
@copper vault favourite weapon?
ar-15
i prefer ar15 bc i carry a pump and its kinda a mix between ar and smg
i know but recently i started using it and it works better for my play style
i usually open a door shoot run back let them run at me and shoot twice
for me i think pump is better bc it is quick 100 damage
i played a few games yesterday and generally tried to be annoying as possible
miniguns and p90s with revs, double sniper rifle, etc
and i can conclude that the minigun is a suboptimal weapon
it shreds, but slowly
Great i will thanks :))
Ok
@wide depot I think the Assault Shotgun is fast enough to the point where the Pump doesnt need a Speed Boost. Maybe a Damage Buff but that's it imo.
.-. It’s reaaaaly slow tho, I’m talking about the pump shotgun, you agree tho, it’s extremely slow and basically useless in door fights now
Assault is fine, um
I never use it ._.
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Bad word usage
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.-. It’s reaaaaly slow tho, I’m talking about the pump shotgun, you agree tho, it’s extremely slow and basically useless in door fights now
@wide depot
If you are complaining about speed,try using your fists then swap to your shotgun to deal damage
Remove the Goo Gun.
no
It’s literally just a spam weapon. No skill is required to use the weapon. Let’s spammers get away with spamming. Makes the game not fun for players who are actually trying to skillful and not spam.
ok here is my “un” subjective reason, setting aside the fact that I like using the goo gun: The goo gun is considered a spam weapon in most cases, but it’s a bit exaggerated. The fire rate and mag size balances out the damage dealt. The only reason why most people complain is because of their bad movement. Yes, I agree that the goo gun is annoying if you get tagged with it, but that’s all the reason why your movement needs work. The speed of the goo gun is also relatively slow for it to be considered a spam weapon. Anyways what I’m trying to say is that u need to work on ur movement.
to put simply, sounds like a skill issue
ur right
@fallow current why did you have to bully me here too 😭
skill issue
the goo gun is kinda bad with trash dps and only gets good dps in combos like sniper, goo, ar or pump goo.
Ok if you’re doing a combo with the goo gun then whatever but if you’re just straight up spamming the goo gun the entire fight it’s a frustrating fight
um well its not that bad
you should be able to dodge it. its like 5 green rpgs coming at you
The goo gun is one of the most elaborate weapons out there
Not when you’re face to face with your opponent and they’re spamming tf out of goo gun and you’re trying to do AR and pump combo
lol
I think the goo gun is more like an intimidating weapon
it slowly drains ur health down from time to time but u can try to take down ur opponent during that interval
sometimes dodging isn’t the best option
Bruh
Yea I’m a big bt23 fan bro
i feel like bolt needs a 4 damage buff
bolt is fine as is
but compared to the semi and hunting which do 40 and 35 all you have to do is hit 2 shots compared to it
like semi was buffed
The mag size was reduced
and hunting rifle has fast bullet speed making it easier to hit shots
but the damage was buffed by 8
or 6 idk
semi should be nerfed to same sight as a bolt
hunting is finr tho
bc double semi is still op
lol
Semi auto should be left alone it’s fine rn
Maybe have like a sound effect when u get a kill idk
I think it's a cool idea
Nerf p90, by decreasing its fire rate or mag bullets or damage. It’s wayyyy too op.
vector is way too op
it can do the same amount of damage as a pump in like half a second
Both are very op I agree
lol what about suppressed smg
here is why pump needs a buff
a pump is meant to do a lot of damage up close but close to nothing longer range.
any person using an smg should never come close enough to a pump for it to do 100 damage
you now need a purple to even do 100 damage
point 2 is my main point tho
and point 1
Exactly
like p90 is meant to counter pump like it did before the update but now it just destrays bc everyone just gets like a green pumop early game and does 89 damage
but the spammer gets them
Spammers are annoying
And they always follow you
Is it just me that think that pc players have aimbot 😂😂😂 when I go up against a pc player with a sniper, they know where you’re going and they can stretch there aim out so they get a direct hit...I might be a bit biased for saying this because I’m a mobile player lol
Example I just played a game I had 10 kills and I was the last on my team, there was a full squad left and one had a mini gun two had gold p90’s and a vector and I obviously lost like they should fix that were you aren’t allowed at least 4 sprayes
So in conclusion:
Nerf the spray weapons and buff the pumps at close range and remove all of their damage at long range
Yes
I just played a solos game and these kids were teaming up and sprayed me with the flamethrower and vector
Lmao

a pump is meant to do a lot of damage up close but close to nothing longer range.
any person using an smg should never come close enough to a pump for it to do 100 damage
you now need a purple to even do 100 damage
now I know why people are using a weird rpg+assault combo
why
good long range and mid-range I guess?
implement steroids into the game
no this game doesnt copy surviv. io
No spray are good
add an OCE server
Comp zr gamemode would be cool

good long range and mid-range I guess?
@acoustic crypt yes thats it thats why i think
lol
un-nerf pump
lol
@copper vault i was copying it before but now it does have different ideas wich is REALLY GOOD
yeah
how do i join a clan
im knew lol
Can anyone test me or..
i was hoping i could join Juice
or overkilled
yeah first off wrong channel and you can join clans in #clans-talk but juice, instinct, vanguard, and sixth sense are all closed rn
?
Pls NERF the MINIGUN pls its not good Nerf it it does 10 now pls nerf it to like 7 again its anoying because spamers and sparyers use it a lot now before it was balence now ITS TTO OP nerf it
pls?
Reason: Bad word usage
nerf shuriken
plz can you sub
ping minimods if y’all really need to
yang's not gonna do it, he prob looks at what the pros want, and do the opposite so that way noobs have a better time, and then they toxic laugh emote, and then people quit the game
brb
that's how the game grows popularity
easy solution is just adapt to it
but its the zombsroyale community is like rocks (no offense)
opposite of what pros want isn’t necessarily good for new people
for example the silence smg
i don’t know much about pros but hopefully they have enough game sense to not only be able to play in static metas
oh hey unrelated: i know goo gun dmg over time stacks, but does flamethrower damage over time stack too?
no I don't think so
aight thx
you need a purple to 100 to 0 and if you miss one bullet, then it's not 100 to 0
nerf shuriken damage and spawn amount and nerf minigun range
nerF sMOKE GrenadE plZ
can we get a p90 nerf
add OCE server
it does because money is paper
😑
BOMB İS 52 ?
???
Bring Thor’s hammer back and don’t do anything with grapples
#Bring back hammer
fix chrome bug
They cant
what is crombook bug
#bring back hammer
#bring back thor hammer
#bring back Thor hammer
#FixZrFirst
@peak tusk stop
#bring back Thor hammer
#bring back Thor hammer
#bring back Thor hammer
not enough people liked yangs post
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Dude thor hammer is the opposite of balancing.
yeah
trident is even more op
@cobalt zephyr @cobalt zephyr @brave swallow we did it lol
@lament kettle LETS GOOOOOO
Finally
yay
COME DUO 3
#bring back Thor hammer
BRING BACK THOR HAMMER
i feel like gassies are kinda op
and bots need to be changed to where they dont just do 50 damage with an ak before you can see them
?warn @cobalt zephyr advertising YouTube links in the wrong channel, use #showcase
@graceful niche

Reason: advertising YouTube links in the wrong channel, use #showcase
nerf silenced smg its still op
Nerf miniguns or vault them pls
Add a new best sniper like a heavy sniper
Dm me if wana play duo
wrong chat dude
id prefer thors hammer though
ZR would probably be the best game ever created if they expanded to Xbox, PlayStation and switch. Pls react if you agree.
Nah
12 damage with an insane fire rate, range stretching to basically the edges of your screen, and a burn effect that lasts for quite a bit
p90 but better
p90 is faster lol
flamethrower is more consistent, deals 11 damage with 0 dropoff
12 damage when you hit the fire tick at the same time
flamethrower can be 1v1ed by basically every full auto gun in the game at the range p90 performs at
but i like to use flamethrower when shooting through a house
medium range, but heavily obstructed by obstacles
not sure if poking with an ar works better but the burn from the flamethrower is some nice placebo
the burn damage i feel like its there for the sake of rewarding those who use it with more damage over time
but 20 damage a bullet is insane
12ish a bullet
e

@ocean hawk uh it ticks for 2 damage a second for like a lot of ticks
tru lmao
doesnt beat a p90 close range but gives any ar a run for its money
even at medium range
Maybe a good super power power is a zoom out. Every time you get one crystal of the zoom out power, it’s a times two. But it has to be very rare to find
Devs ping when maybe answered
yeah
nerf third party
🤣 👍
buff trees hitpoints
.
NERF OR TOTALLY DELETE THE VECTOR!!!!
Lol
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@sly tree
Expert Guy#1209 has been warned.
🤝
ok
NERF OR TOTALLY DELETE THE VECTOR!!!!
@static zenith no i think its balanced as a MYTHIC AIRDROP weapon. Even then, when i get the vector, i still kinda feel bad its not an AWP
yang has a nuke button don't worry
💥💯
Just use the Inspect tool if you are on chrome and delete the vector yourself easy peasy(this is a joke please don't hunt me)
@.yang hunt
Uhh..vector is disgusting..but what can u do about it? It's good for dmg but not good in far ranges..so it is evenly balanced. @vapid drum If you feel like you are bad off using it and or facing it, consider yrself a noob 😂👌
@wanton crescent what? i legit couldnt understand what u said. If i feel bad when using it im a noob? what?? I feel bad when i get a vector from airdrop instead of an awp. My bad for wanting a higher skill, higher reward weapon
@agile hedge pls fix vector it crashed my game
@cobalt zephyr lol.
buff pump
ARE YOU SERIOUS
sry caps lock
do you use pumps or smgs
a pump is supposed to do damage up close
and a person using an smg should never be close enough to a person with a pump to be 1 pumped
anvault or nerf turret
its a second player
@static zenith no i think its balanced as a MYTHIC AIRDROP weapon. Even then, when i get the vector, i still kinda feel bad its not an AWP
@vapid drum lmao AWPs are the best mythic, in my opinion. Anyone else agree?
@copper vault bruh there was a time when an epic pump did 40 dmg nearly 6 tiles away and only a third of the shells hit
Umm is that buffed nerfed or both lamo
nerfed
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@cobalt zephyr ^^
Infiniti | Combo#2217 has been warned.
ty
@untold ridge ur sugegstion
is the worst suggestion
i heard so far
snipers dont have to be buffed
just cuz ur good with a bolt
doesnt mean it has to be buffed
like i get if u want a sniper buff for an ACTUAL reason
and i would still disagree but i would be a lot more respectful, but bruh u want it to benefit u
I didnt say I wanted to benefit myself, I want it buffed because I think most people think snipers are underated, they are not like shotguns so buffing them would make people more aware of sniper.
I was going to comment on your idea but ok
also @vapid drum dont boss me around ur not my mom
boi
everyone uses a sniper
its not underrates
and did i tell u to do anything?
no
so im not bossing u around lmao
literally every game I play people use shotguns
this game
everyone uses snipers
u obv dont play this game
that much
u need a bolt in this game
to win
then how do u not know everyone uses the bolt?
most people dont think the bolt is underrated
i usually get killed with a shotgun
agree, bolt's used really often
me?
this kdis wants a bolt buff cuz he is good with a bolt and not a shotgun
ye
if u keep on dying to shotuns
dont walk up to doors
check to see if there are people first
if final circle ends up in a place with no cover, you won't have much fun trying to win without a bolt
i mean i guess you can do some shenanigans with impulses and grapples but eh
why are u calling me a kid
i dont walk up to doors
i get killed with reverse impulse
duh
oh my bad ur an adult, but based on what u said earlier, "dont boss me around ur not my mom" u sound like one
also if u get reverse impulsed, u can hear them take out the reverses
so shoot before
and when u travel to them, u actually shoot and kill them first
even then
u can escape reverses
i dont use sound
thats loud
with audio
k
i also dont use formal english cuz this is discord
jkjjjkjkjkj
okay kid
lol
child
?
are u child?
what does sus mean?
suspicious
banning teamers in solos
okay
im in OK
thats why my name is cool
How high of a ego do you have to say that with pride
pump is supposed to be good in close range bc someone using smg shouldnt take 100 damage from a pmup
I suggest using this template!! https://discord.new/ZZhYgCCDbZjv
"pump is vaulted hell yeah!"
@acoustic crypt dont wory new shotuns 2 new shotguns
sure
dont wary also the pump will be in scrims just not in bubs
also yang please activate windows
scar nerf please
its op
pls
yang
bolt is trash pls change it back the draw speed is way too long
i think that nades nerf were a bit too much and i think buffing the minimum damage to 40 or 50 even would bring nades back into the meta
Nades are trash now
they buffed them chillllll
Fix reloads
wait they buffed nades
3 SECOND RELOAD FOR ARS
JEEEZ
THATS WAAAY TOO MUCH
ars arent going to be worth using for spam anymore
the ar tier list flipped upside down
AR-15 is now the worst AR, followed by the M4, SCAR and AK
bring pump back
bring old pump back and keep the new too
lol
no
Fix ar's reload speed, make it fast to swithc, make shotguns faster to switch, make snipers faster to shoot and faster to switch, ars are all slow now please fix that, thors hammer op whihc is good
why do people care so much about the pump
ikr
AR nerf is too much.
id say maybe 1.5 seconds, even 2 seconds would be better
new shotguns are trashhhhh
3 seconds is insane lmao
Uzi is broken now
that shotguns deal to less dmg
they should reduce velocity
yee
hold on lemme at least try the update
the reload time is soo much
i dont want to play zombs anymore
not stonks
update is good
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games all about spraying n wkeying. playing overly aggressive wasnt very punishing because of short reloads across the board. mistakes in positioning/aim/whatever while going for plays were able to be punished too infrequently. the update encourages smarter play.
lately theres been a quicker form of healing introduced to counter this, healing gun, and ARs now actually have a tradeoff for the high range you get out of it. perhaps they could do with a bit of a reduction in reload time, but its a step in the right direction.
draw speed on new pump is faster, feels nice. same with silenced pistol. overall more guns are viable and crafting a loadout/making the choices w that is more involved and has more impact. there are now more tradeoffs for weapons, or at the very least things to consider.
yang himself has said some of the weird switch delays across the board is a bug, so the concerns about skill ceiling overall being lowered can be at least partially dismissed
mg36 good now because of crazy high mag, and reload is still only like 1.5 or 2 seconds, and i think it got a slight firerate buff as well.
bolts been debatably best sniper since the game came out, now its a higher mag but larger reload lower firerate.
in this update at the end of the day, each bullet fired means more compared to pre-update, smarter play is rewarded both on offense and defense.
Lead answer me !?
when i switch to sniper its acctualy reloading in the time i cant shen at the moments when i switch so that BRİNG BACK FRİCKİNG OLD ZR
sniper reloading even it have full ammo
um no its not
wtf
are you mobile or pc
its good
bring pump back
@quiet basalt MONKEY YOU BROUGHT UP THE SAME POINT ABOUT AR RELOAD BEING TOO MUCH
ape.
im UNSUBBING.
rn
vector nerf
fix eu servers is lagging evrey 5 secs
i was chill fighting and i got teleported to a gray zone
xd
and the reload time is toooo big
Sooo from what ive seen in the game, did snipers get nerfed?
the time in between shots is equivalent to the old reload speed and at the end of a couple shots you have a 5 second reload speed?!
also bring back pump!
the time in between shots is equivalent to the old reload speed and at the end of a couple shots you have a 5 second reload speed?!
@neon coral ye i saw this it is more a nerf not a buff
raid shotgun is a downgrade from pump
on a more positive note, the battle pass looks sick and nades got buffed 🙂
and i get smaller fps now ;-;
nerf shurikens
ye
the game goes so much slower now because of the much longer reloads. Its become a lot more boring because its no where near as fast paced as before. I think the AR reload slow down was a good idea, but its way too long. The sniper change is kinda weird, but its alr. I think you should keep the regular bolt, replace the hunting rifle with this, and make it shoot a bit faster as well and reduce damage by 10. The shotguns i like.
100% agree
One of my favorite parts of the game was the fast pace and quick decisions i needed to make
The free pass is terrible compared to battle pass.
The free pass is terrible compared to battle pass.
@short hatch that is the point of the battle pass-
bring back the pump!
@cobalt zephyr : I know but it is particularly bad this season
@short hatch thats cuz the BP
it honestly feels like I'm playing a completely different game now with the new mechanics its almost like I'm playing this game for the first time
is so good this seaosn
ngl
@neon coral i agree that the sniper should be returned to normal, but the pumps are nice
new shotty is in better state than snipers ngl
Yea
alright so i was fine with the first balance patch
the meta was changed but this
WTF
I WAS FINE WITH THE LAST ONE BUT THIS
ight so im not gonna get too mad until i play this in pubs and comp
but comp is just gonna be so weird
I need to talk to the devs about and client freezing (not to do with EU servers)
If any dev sees this, can you add me so I can send a clip of it happening.
Its really annoying and one of the reasons many players are quitting/dont like playing the game.
I suggest they buff scar's fire rate, it fires too slow, so slow that the buffed damage is not used propperly, I suggest that you make it fire a little bit faster
And, it would help if you made it a little bit more rare
@short halo the green does 19 damage
Kinda
But it fires too slow
If you miss 2 bullets, you're dead
Because if someone does 10 damage with a high firing gun, it has the advantage
It can dodge bullets AND also deal tons of damage
In this particular case
Ar-15 and Ak-47 are the counter to scar
oh heck what got changed
A lot.
looks like you’ll definitely need to double up on each weapon so you can kill someone before reloading
All that has to stay the same is travel time, then the changes are only around management
wonder if double bolt still works, but better 🤔
pogchamp
what would a load out look like? ak for holding corners and pistol for doing damage? hmm
I think so because everyone’s old load out has been messed up
lol common raid does 80 damage with and insane fire rate
people are overexaggerating this update because they cant spam ars and now it takes more skill so a lot of people with NO SKILL are complaining
thoughts on new uzi?
kinds broken close range
agreed but droppoff makes up for it riht?
uzi the new punp?
Uzi is bad
the new shotgun is the new pump it does the same damage as the pump basically
Mp5 is better, I believe
k
not since the new update
they buffed the uzi
Hmmm
its a spray god
Imma test
i dont like the MKII
mythic one tho
kills door pumping tho ;-;
lol
i mean raid, not the piercing thing
ye
a lotta spread tho
ya
personally still prefer ar for that range
Yes
so i can aim
i think the longer reload was needed
i cant even feel the longer reload
the spam and then 1 second and more spam
And SMG for close/semi-mid (depending)
was it changed by only one second or something?
the longer reload feels normal now
i guess im just habitually really bullet conserving
people are complaining but they just have to get used to the new guns
it does
I mean
yeah somethins off
It's like the SMG Ak
ggold uzi op lol
probably the spread
I mean
shoots 3 bullets at the same time
nades buff equals happy montage maker
why buff the silenced pistol no one is going to use it anyway
Kinda
yea i never picked up nades after nerf
I just did that
might be viable again
i always have one throwable
my throwables are usually impulses
I dont use
I usually have meds
If i font find, usually nades, or cactus
Maybe even impulses, if i have shotgun+
i switch up my build depending on what the map looks like tho
blue scar would win tho
BRING BACK PUMP AAAAA
no
yes
just use the new shotgun
it’s badddd
tbh
idk tbh
flamethrower ner
Increase dragonov speed since the bolt speed was increased:) @rose lion
Change the whole system of guns like for real
stop copying fornite
don't ping the devs -_-
Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -
What changes I think should be made with reasons.
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Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.
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Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.
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New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.
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The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)
Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.
@supple frigate as u said I wrote it. If Devs don't see this but u do and think I am correct then pkease send this list to their dms or something cuz no one cares about what we want
Thanks
SCARs do too much damage, considering the faster fire rate from before and that you move at the same speed as with other weapons. I would suggest keeping the moving speed and fire rate but nerfing 1-2 dmg less from each rarity, like Phandub said I know the devs probably won't read this or care at all but this is the game balance channel
Bet they won't read that either 😂
mhm
@mystic crow he wrote about how to balance scars u idio.t
Pls read b4 saying anything dumb
SCARs do too much damage, considering the faster fire rate from before and that you move at the same speed as with other weapons. I would suggest keeping the moving speed and fire rate but nerfing 1-2 dmg less from each rarity, like Phandub said I know the devs probably won't read this or care at all but this is the suggestion channel
@heady gyro read the last words
Oh noe my message got hidden
I will send again
Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -
What changes I think should be made with reasons.
-
Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.
-
Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.
-
New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.
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The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)
Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.
i agree with the last one
but i haven't played the new update so i can't say anything about the other ones
Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -
What changes I think should be made with reasons.
-
Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.
-
Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.
-
New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.
-
The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)
Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.
plz vault or take damage of the p90 and still the silenced its cost so many people wins and it so annoying it takes no skill all u do is prrrrrrrrrrra prrrrrrrrra dead thx
Ok I don't know if you Devs are even gonna see this cuz most of the time you just ignore us but here we go -
What changes I think should be made with reasons.
-
Bring back pump and remove tac. No one used tactical shotguns and it kinda just not being useful.
-
Snipers. Revoke the update on snipers and if ya think it's too op then just increase the reload by .25 or .50 seconds.
-
New zones are pretty fire but the news guns, not so fire. Make reload time in Ar 1 second maximum so if doesn't get annoying in mid fight.
-
The grenades are too bad now please fix their damage to 60 atleast we all will be fine with that too :)
Thanks for trying to improve the games but these are some flaws I found. You will just ignore me cuz I am some random dude but I have been here from alpha season and knwo a lot abt the game I think these improvements might improve the game itself.
No u
whitch is better mythic scar or scoped m4?
E
i think the new bolt is way better than the old one
new bolt is op
bruh the combos
but i feel like the old bolt should come back as competition for the bolt II
👀
uzi way top op
The Z-Trainee is a knock off of the Flash from DC Comics
Add cheeseballs
😋
@agile hedge pls join vc pls i wanna talk to u
hey has anyone playtested the raid shotgun in door fights?
technically spamming it shouldnt work because it has the chargeup thing but its still a shotgun and it feels really nice to use in general for some reason
Its pretty similar to the pump
I like the pump more, the weird lookin new shotgun is super weak and the raid shot gun is ok
I like the raid shotgun but it's not good for switching 😦
first of all, unvault shotgun (second best gun in the game no cap)
fix the reload its so slow and will effect the gameplay A LOT (as if the last update wasn't bad enough)
make good updates that don't actually effect the gameplay mechanics and trying to increase the skill of other players (bots)
i would just suggest just updating the seasons and weapons in the game
and stop trying to work on the mechanics.
Thoughts on recent update:
Uzi: I agree with the buff, I used to never take an uzi but now it is somewhat serviceable.
Grenades: Love it, no need to change anything
__Bolts:__I don't see the need to have 2 different sniper types. I love the 5 ammo, but it is taken away because the time between firing one shot and another shot is almost like if you were to reload a traditional bolt. Then you have to actually reload it.
Shotguns: I disagree with the pump takeout. I like how the Tactical Shotgun 2.0 penetrates through 1 person and hits another, but the nerfed reload speed makes it pedestrian. The Raid Shotgun is a glorified assault with less reload speed. If we are keeping the Raid Shotgun, please let us boost it all up and then switch weapons without losing our boost.
Cactus Bomb: Love the idea, but decreasing damage makes it even out to original cactus
AR's: Scar is a little powerful, reload times aren't that bad, people are overreacting.
Silenced Pistols: Love it
Thor's Hammer: Love it, maybe increase drop rate more. I have played 2.5 hours today and have not seen it in game once.
Season: Amazing. Thank you for that.
These are just my opinions
i have a few suggestions that i think are kind of widely agreed on by the community, compiled into a list:
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return the bolt to normal. it seems that most people liked it just fine how it was before (except maybe keep the way it looks, thats cool), and if you still think its overpowered then maybe increase the reload by a tiny bit (i.e. 1/2 a second?)
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the scar needs a tiny damage nerf. not a lot, only 1-2 dmg per bullet, just enough to make it more equal with other ARs.
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the shotgun category is, lets just say, not the greatest at the moment. shotguns were a huge part of gameplay for the competitive side, and now that the pump is gone it kind of sucks ngl. if you dont want to bring back the pump, the damage could be increased and the reload decreased for the raid shotgun.
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buff the assualt scar. it is way underpowered compared to the scar now, and needs a damage buff
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AR reload time is fine with me, i dont think it is a very big deal as opposed to some people, id say leave it!
finally id just like to say thank you for finally updating the game, and although it wasn't the greatest, it is a change like we have been asking for, so thanks!
@wet vale .5/sec is quite a lot of time, other than that, i agree
bruh everyone is trash talking the new bolt, but like you can hit insane combos and swaps
like you don't have to reload
keep both bolts
bruh everyone is trash talking the new bolt, but like you can hit insane combos and swaps
@golden hinge agree, i live hitting the deagle-ar switches with the bolt, the problem is it takes so long to shoot a bullet after shooting one
love*
Bring Pump Back And Remake Snipers Reload
but can't you shoot a bolt, then ar, then switch back and shoot immediately?
lol
Buff The scar and drop the reload time of the new shotgun
Well the other idea should help put
Really feel like for the RAID shotgun it should charge even when you're not holding it
no dumb thats just a pump then bc its always fully charged
what it should do is stay charged when you switch guns so you can still hit them for 130
introducing the new shotgun, RAID shadow legends
what it should do is stay charged when you switch guns so you can still hit them for 130
@copper vault Probably should have added that part my bad
introducing the new shotgun, RAID shadow legends
@woven oasis Use code:RAID for a free skin and $1 worth of gems also a free chest
lmfao
idea: og bolt has uncommon to epic rarity, and new bolt has rare to legendary rarity. the differences being the og bolt has one shot but reloads faster, while the new bolt has 3 shots but reloads slower.
new bolt has slightly higher damage, but also has slower draw speed
nah
but the draw speed is the same]
draw speed is like half the gun
draw speed is like half the gun
@golden hinge okay, not that part then
good idea, I love it besides snipers are sometimes difficult to find so having 2 types of bolts would make it a little better
good idea, I love it besides snipers are sometimes difficult to find so having 2 types of bolts would make it a little better
@golden hinge thank you 🙂
another idea: bring back the pump the same as it was except it has uncommon to epic rarities, and slightly buff the kgs so it isn’t horrible
nerf the flamethrower
and increase the draw speed on the bolt, its kinda hard to pump snipe now
also i thought that you buffed frags, they do the same dmg
not draw-fire speed @golden hinge
the reload speed on raid shotgun is insanely slow. correct me if I’m wrong but I think the reload speed should be decreased, there’s not enough time in close range fights to reload a shotgun for 2 seconds just to get one shot off.
the raid shotgun basically has the same reload speed as pump?
reloads are completely broken. All the spam weapons have less reload times than non spam weapons.. BOLT is brokken. Overall 4/10 update. IN zr for every good thing comes something worse
Raid shotgun way too op
Ngl the shotguns are doodoo reload
Thoughts on recent update:
-Uzi: I agree with the buff, I used to never take an uzi but now it is somewhat serviceable.
How to "fix:" Keep it the same.
-Grenades: Love it, no need to change anything
How to "fix:" Keep it the same.
-Bolts: I don't see the need to have 2 different sniper types that are virtually the same. I love the 5 ammo, but it is taken away because the time between firing one shot and another shot is almost like if you were to reload a traditional bolt. Then you have to actually reload it.
How to "fix:" Either revert bolt back to usual and make Bolt Mk 2 its own weapon, or increase switch-shot time and the time in between bolt shots.
-Shotguns: I disagree with the pump takeout. I like how the Tactical Shotgun 2.0 penetrates through 1 person and hits another, but the nerfed reload speed makes it pedestrian. The Raid Shotgun is a glorified assault with less reload speed. If we are keeping the Raid Shotgun, please let us boost it all up and then switch weapons without losing our boost.
How to "fix:" Please unvault pump, keep Raid and KSG Shotguns as weapons, make Raid keep boost, even if players switch weapons, and please decrease reload time.
-Cactus Bomb: Love the idea, but decreasing damage makes it even out to original cactus
the same, but buff damage back to 10.```
-**__AR's:__** Scar is a little powerful, reload times aren't that bad, people are overreacting.
```How to "fix:" Decrease scar damage by 1-2, keep or revert reload.```
-**__Silenced Pistols:__** Love it
```How to "fix:" Keep it the same.```
-**__Thor's Hammer:__** Love it, maybe increase drop rate more. I have played 2.5 hours today and have not seen it in game once.
```How to "fix:" Increase drop rate```
-**__Season:__** Amazing. Thank you for that.
```How to "fix:" Keep it the same.```
ok imo I feel like yang should revert the ars back to their usual reload time
well at least the guns that aren't the scar
why did they change the appearance of the scar?
its just personal preference, but it looks so ugly now
@kind frost yeah I agree lmao. The scar looks good but it doesn't flow with the look of the game tbh
they change just too state how much of a thicc boi it is
@kind frost yeah I agree lmao. The scar looks good but it doesn't flow with the look of the game tbh
@formal swan
Yeah right
Bring Pump Back And Change Snipers Reload Time.
yeah the time between firing another shot is the same as reloading the old bolt and then we have to reload it again
yup
@cobalt zephyr no actually i think ur just a player who shoots 5 sniper bullets in a row and if you had any skill whatsoever you would realize you can shotgun, sniper, ar and then while you're shooting another gun the bolt II will be ready to shoot again whilst with the old bolt youy had to wait an extra second to shoot a second sniper bullet
FIX THE SNIPERS
Nerf p90 decrees fire rate increase reload
mmm raidshotgun too op. Maybe add some knockback so the person moves back thus making the pump do less.
The reload of raid shotgun balances it
no, you can completely destroy someone with the raid shotgun with all of its bullets.
the reload comes after the person dies
why cant i play this game on imac from discord library
bc its windows only
thoughts
i love it
everything
i was skeptical at first but after playing it it has just made the game so fresh and new
@vital rock P90 is fine since its not a long range weapon
bring back old bolt
no actually i think ur just a player who shoots 5 sniper bullets in a row and if you had any skill whatsoever you would realize you can shotgun, sniper, ar and then while you're shooting another gun the bolt II will be ready to shoot again whilst with the old bolt youy had to wait an extra second to shoot a second sniper bullet
@copper vault tough to do when draw-shot time is so high
bring bad old bolt and shotgun cause the game meta is actually broken now. if you get a good spam weapon you automatically win whereas before, you actually needed skill to win
@raw basin did they change it?
@vital rock haha sorry It was meant for @granite fern
@raw basin did they change it?
@copper vault Yes, draw-fire speed has been increased by a few tenths of a second
bring bad old bolt and shotgun cause the game meta is actually broken now. if you get a good spam weapon you automatically win whereas before, you actually needed skill to win
@mr.poop#0218 THANK U
how is the new shotgun bad
and the new bolt?
@torn ember
would you prefer a pump or the raid
bc pump us still in the game
bc pump us still in the game
@copper vault i would prefer the pump over the raid bc the pump doesn’t need to charge to do max damage. i realize that a lot of people like the raid so removing it wouldn’t be smart. i suggest that they add pumps back in chests but only in uncommon to purple rarities. i also think that they should slightly buff the kgs so it’s not worse than the P2000 pistol, and i also think they should keep the new bolt, (without load time to shoot when u switch to it) and revert the old bolt to what it was (1 ammo) except with a 1.25 second reload.
automatic
Or it does it automatticly
@solemn forum yep once u switch to it a red bar goes up on the gun once the red bar can’t go any further that’s when it’s max damage.
Who wants to trade accs
the pump and the bolt shoudl be back there reload time is good
imo its just overused before so they "nerfed" it
not that its bad now so chill out a bit
yes
how u get a higher rank
Prob zombs
I'm not joking when I say this, but I've opened 200 airdrops and I've NEVER GOT THE THOR HAMMER YET. It was better back when the thor hammer had a separate drop
gee
I don't even notice the thors hammer was in the game again in my first match this season lol
the latency feels a bit worse (like spikes up 1000 ping again, on my network connection) but its understandable
and with the reload speeds of many guns being slow every match seems chill
oh yeah hooray the scythe inn free pass I guess
that's my thoughts

