game-balance

[grave valley]

@river lichen wrong channel

[river lichen]

ok sry

[languid basalt]

Can we reduce the mini gun range

[grave valley]

well its pretty bad already, no need to add insult to injury

[languid basalt]

Vault it then

[grave valley]

yeah, pretty much, its so bad, doesnt do anything lmao

[upbeat raven]

devs could vault a lot of guns

[cobalt zephyr]

Yea

And make more

[drifting siren]

mhm

minigun has low accuracy 😦

it's pretty useless

[upbeat raven]

its only good for crowd control

[drifting siren]

lol

yes 50v50

if there's a hell lot of enemies then yea

just spray n' pray

[woven oasis]

Mini gun is only good if you know you're going to have a winning trade-off

the hp you have is more than your enemies, so you can spray relentlessly while taking a few bullets

Most of the time, it doesn't end well

So the mini gun is basically a mean lean thrid party machine

[woven oasis]

@grave valley uhh react here BTW

I hate this new rule

[grave valley]

ok

[woven oasis]

they should have a new channel called suggestions discussion

but I guess not

[grave valley]

its the equivalent of having a whole squad worth of assault rifle burst fire packed into one gun, holy crap

15 degree spread requires the user to have half decent aim

but having a person with pretty good aim have this sorta weapon will be absolutely insane

by having a total of 4 bursts with a 0.7 second in between, i can see weapon switching as a mechanic that can be used to by pass the delay soooo

you can first do a full on burst, then switch to an ar, then switch back to shotgun

also YOU CAN DO JUST 1 BURST OF FOUR SHOTS AND IF YOU HIT 3/4 OF YOUR PELLETS AND ONLY DO HALF DMG YOU STILL DO 120 DMG, wow that is astounding

and you still have 3 more bursts to go before reloading

so all in all way too op @woven oasis

[woven oasis]

epic

I made a broken gun

[grave valley]

the 2 second reload doesnt even matter when the first 2 bursts can melt an opponent and with a few well timed peeks, and efficient use of cover, you can kill everyone in any close quarters fight and you will take little to no dmg

[woven oasis]

Epic

How would you nerf it

[grave valley]

not have 16 shots, make the drop off more severe or nerf the 15 tile range

maybe make the burst 3 shots and only have 12 shots before having to reload @woven oasis

[woven oasis]

aight

[lyric osprey]

my game not working, does you guy's game works?

[ruby cloak]

minigun is underrated

people just hate it cuz its annoying

Its basically a nerfed p90 with the range of a VSS. I mean cmon thats pretty fun to use

[woven oasis]

yes but it's annoying and I hate it

[cobalt zephyr]

hi

[cobalt zephyr]

@safe tiger

@safe tiger

@safe tiger

@safe tiger

Wrong channel

S

Plural

[safe tiger]

why

u do

[cobalt zephyr]

Bc it’s as annoying as posting a link in every channel

Nobody’s going to join xD

[ruby cloak]

and you got muted for it.

[cobalt zephyr]

[upbeat raven]

skill based matchmaking?

[jovial parcel]

Riddle me this,Riddle me that the vectors an airdrop weapon so should it be cracked

[upper crane]

hello

[languid basalt]

@jovial parcel the vector is cracked the reload speed should be lowered

[cobalt zephyr]

Remove goo gun so annoying drain health atleast lower the power of it . It Is op

[visual estuary]

How do u get uncommon zombs?

@cobalt zephyr yes it is i could win but the guy had a goo gun and spamed it on me

!rank

[languid basalt]

@visual estuary you have to message often til you reach mee6 level 7 I think but please don’t spam

[lofty egret]

Pls.bal

[sly tree]

There’s not mee6 @languid basalt

Oh wait

There is nvm

Sorry for ping

[hollow wedge]

Dm if u want to join killz

[brazen compass]

come and join my music stream in general

[summer dew]

#showcase for music stream and #clans-talk for clan invites 🙂

[tropic lark]

yep

lol

[calm compass]

lol

[plain saffron]

they should nerf minigun range and damage

[grave valley]

it pretty bad either way, no need to add insult to injury

[visual estuary]

@languid basaltsorry

@languid basalt how did you get the uncommon zombs rank?

[cobalt zephyr]

Keep talking and you’ll get it

[languid basalt]

That sounded really threatening but he’s right

[quiet basalt]

Lol

[strange lagoon]

NERF PISTOL

give more bots

delete game

jk

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr
Teleporting is basically an instant impulse. You can absolutely surprise play an enemy by leading them into an area where you've set up your teleporter. Sure, it's value depreciates in duos and squads, but in solos it would be disgustingly good. Teleporting directly to a far off place after getting an airdrop, teleporting to an Airdrop to ambush whoever was collecting it, teleporting to choke points when the circles is small, the use of a teleporter is huge and super useful.

but with a nerf, it could be very very interesting

[cobalt zephyr]

It’s short range.

[woven oasis]

Still

that only invalidates like, one statement I placed there

I'm not saying its a bad idea, I'm just saying your explanation makes it sound op

What if there was a discreet marker, a small red spot on your destination, and you only had one use of the teleporter. Then that would be super cool to add.

[cobalt zephyr]

And as far as the comparison to impulse, yes it is very similar but the object of surprise and intellect is different, unlike and impulse you can use wherever to blast you in any direction, the rewind can only take you backwards in time a bit.

[woven oasis]

time is a very finicky thing to measure in games

they would have to record your initial hp, and then it would also make the teleporter an instant heal too

concept works better as a teleporter rather than a rewind machine

[cobalt zephyr]

I think teleportation is definitely more OP in many ways.

[woven oasis]

Wait

What if

When you first activate the rewind, you set your destination. You have 10 seconds to activate the rewind again to rewind back to your destination. If you exceed the time limit, the rewind is wasted

[cobalt zephyr]

But here’s the tricky part, the game is not very complex and I think the simplicity of it is a better feel, so how would that work on the hud with doing less than...let’s say 3 moves?

[woven oasis]

what

[cobalt zephyr]

“You set your destination”

As in?

[woven oasis]

that's the point you rewind to

if you activate within the ten seconds, youll rewind there

[cobalt zephyr]

So in easier terms you’re saying, they can go back in time 10 seconds but it takes 10 seconds to recharge?

[woven oasis]

No

they can go back in time to a maximum of ten seconds, and it's a one time use

[cobalt zephyr]

Got it.

[woven oasis]

would be actually really cool if it was added, making aggro play more rewarding

[cobalt zephyr]

It would be neat to see it like they are there, now they’re not and just be like “Dang they had a Rewind”

[woven oasis]

Dang he had a rewind, guess I'll die

[cobalt zephyr]

So I tend to focus more on gadget ideas instead of guns.

[woven oasis]

you know the speed superpower trail

yeah, when you activate the rewind, you have the trail. When the trail stops, it means your 10 seconds is up

[cobalt zephyr]

There are downsides to the rewind though, a trail that shows for a spit second to show where you went, the storm being behind you, a person being where you went back to.

Or even wasting it by accident.

It would be very cool to see where such a thing could take gameplay.

[woven oasis]

ye

you should rewrite and repost the idea in #suggestions

they actually read it and might consider

[cobalt zephyr]

I will.

[cobalt zephyr]

interesting

would rewind affect only your health?

what about the likes of position on map/guns/ammo

and would it affect everyone on the map?

[languid basalt]

Ofc it wouldn’t

[stuck vapor]

I think the idea of a rewind tool would be interesting, but it would either be highly overpowered, or completely useless

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr i suppose it only affects yourself. the rewind will revert only your position and hp, so you could theoretically double pump from 2 different places

its a one time use, so in a way, its not super duper op

[cobalt zephyr]

and ammo?

if you dropped your gun would u pick it back up?

[languid basalt]

Does it affect what you’ve done or just where you’ve been

Or both

[atomic coyote]

Like if you hurt someone, does that damage get reverted?

[languid basalt]

I doubt it

[atomic coyote]

Yeah, then no one would use it.

[cobalt zephyr]

nerf ai

kthxbai

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr the time skip doesnt affect your inventory or items on the floor. only your own position and your own hp

[atomic coyote]

Oh cool.

[nocturne meteor]

helo i am new to this server

[languid basalt]

Welcome

[acoustic crypt]

hello im the the the the the the and the the ok

[languid basalt]

Did you just have a stroke

[plain granite]

who wants the p90 buffed and the turret gun buffed

p90

turret

[umbral gyro]

The Turret honestly needs a buff

[young cosmos]

toi does

it does

[upbeat raven]

siphon

[daring sapphire]

$play wasted

!plat wasted

!help

?help

[ruby cloak]

no bots

[summer dew]

MEE6 is here

[ruby cloak]

but hes invis

[peak mason]

buff the turret

pls

[halcyon silo]

if you know how to use it

its insanely good

[peak mason]

7 damage

I mean you could use it as a wall

[halcyon silo]

its for zone control

[atomic coyote]

Keeping people in tue storm.

[halcyon silo]

no one wants to get hit by a turrent

[peak mason]

yeah but you can still kill it

[halcyon silo]

so ppl get scared

[atomic coyote]

Thats what I use it for.

[halcyon silo]

thats one use

[peak mason]

plus it’s a waste of a slot

[halcyon silo]

try killing it while people shoot at you :/

[peak mason]

that’s why I play solos

less people shooting at me

[halcyon silo]

eh it kinda sucks in solos

[peak mason]

I’d rather get an awp or an xm8 than a stupid turret that does 7 damage

[cobalt zephyr]

Duh

[halcyon silo]

^

[acoustic crypt]

the turret is the best tower ev- oh wait this is zombsroyale right?

nvm then

[acoustic crypt]

nerf everything
which willl make everything the same

[native coral]

hmm

[woven oasis]

@queen pilot pls delete, don't post links kthxbye

[summer dew]

DON'T CLICK ON THE LINK! <@&432227393067810823> ^ REMOVE RIGHT NOW

[cobalt zephyr]

whats the link about tho

plz tell me

[summer dew]

don't nsfw

[cobalt zephyr]

its nsfw

[summer dew]

yes

[cobalt zephyr]

ew

[woven oasis]

lol

[summer dew]

bruh

[spark tendon]

nice

shouldn't click it

[ruby cloak]

clicks

[tribal pollen]

fix the silenced smg

[sly tree]

tru

[torpid hull]

lol

[woven oasis]

@torpid hull firstly, any sort of homing weapon has a sort of spectrum to its accuracy. In other words, you didn't specify how accurate the homing would be (does it chart a direct path to the player? Does it weave through obstacles?). Secondly, making it a "rare" Airdrop doesn't make it less op. It just means its harder to get, but once you have it it's game over for the other team. Such a powerful/reliable weapon should have numerous debuffs to balance it

I think I made a concept before

[torpid hull]

idk

[golden ermine]

I couldnt think of anything to say

[torpid hull]

i just came up with the idea and thought it was good

[golden ermine]

i dont think its a bad idea

i dont think its a good idea either , but with a few tweaks it could be a game changing gun

could be cool

[woven oasis]

Exactly

[torpid hull]

@woven oasis When people got the turret they thought it was game over for the other teams, but they we're half wrong, weren't they?

[woven oasis]

That's a different story

You can't compare apples to oranges

[golden ermine]

Turrent isnt OP, its balanced, very high HP with a low damage rate

I do think for a mythic, the damage should be a bit higher, but it can be annoying at times

[woven oasis]

anyways, I think it's a good idea. You just didn't flesh out the details yet and that's why the idea of a homing missile sounds so o

Op

[torpid hull]

ok

[golden ermine]

if it was to track the player, or be controlled by a player, i personally think the damage should be less than 50

[woven oasis]

I think it should be 50 exactly

Lmao

Maybe have an extremely slow velocity so that smart players can get behind walls

idk I really do remember making a concept like this before

I just don't know where

[golden ermine]

jesus i cant think of anything to say

im braindead rn

[woven oasis]

lmfao

[golden ermine]

ill be honest, it doesnt sound like a bad idea. I kind of like the idea myself, although i do think it being able to track any player and have a damage rate of 90 is a little op, a few tweaks would be needed

[torpid hull]

i'll try in like 2 months when i have more info abt the weapons and stuff, it could also have a very high reload, that means you can't shoot as much missiles, witch can reduce the dps greatly. and it could also have a system that if it only dealt the damage with splash, it would do -10 damage for every tile away the player is all the way up to 4 or 5 tiles away.

dps = Damage per second btw

[golden ermine]

i know

so you're saying for full damage, id have to be next to the player ?

sounds kinda scuffed

[torpid hull]

no, it just has to be a direct hit on the player.

[golden ermine]

and how many tiles would the rocket be able to go before exploding ?

[torpid hull]

if it hits a bush while tracking a player, and the player was 5 tiles away from the impact, it would do -50 damage or only 40 damage

idk mb if the player goes off-screen, it auto destructs.

[golden ermine]

that could work, but that seems like a lot of coding

[torpid hull]

but it should go as far as a regular rocket, so if you manage to follow the rocket, it can't be infinite.

so it's not too OP

[woven oasis]

Not really a lot of coding

Just reuse the zombie ai

[olive bolt]

:|

how about we pull a fallout 3 and make the rocket a zombie but with the rocket sprite on top

[woven oasis]

istg

you are both genius and stupidity

[ruby cloak]

how about we spawn nuclear bombs in the game

[elfin scarab]

e

a

sports

its in the game

[elder crown]

The Assault Scar should have more damage for the normal bullet like 14-15

maybe 16

[woven oasis]

Bro it used to be 15 and it used to be SUPER op

I think they nerfed it a little too hard, but it's still really really good

[dense pine]

I pro

[dusky flicker]

the silenced isn't weak its fire rate makes it a strong gun

[turbid birch]

Vault vector

Like lower damage

[atomic coyote]

Caulting means taking it out of the game-

[upbeat raven]

the vector is already pretty bad as well

it needs a buff imo

[grave valley]

depends on the situation

[cobalt zephyr]

https://discord.gg/ekZeyA

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[atomic coyote]

@cobalt zephyr shut up.

[languid basalt]

Heh he got muted

[cobalt zephyr]

[grave valley]

lmao

[tribal seal]

DrPainTwitch#3741 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[unborn rampart]

brah

[atomic coyote]

Idot

[spark tendon]

lol

[strange lagoon]

lol

n

i

g

gin

[atomic coyote]

Maybe like have leagues so people of equal skill get in games.

[grave valley]

nah, now every game will feel like a scrim, sometimes after scrimming pros like to sit back and relax by dropping 20 kills and pub stomping in solos, with a good player encountering them every once in a while

[atomic coyote]

Yeah but noobs like me can barely play because of pros.

[grave valley]

but at most 5 pros will be in a game and most of the time pros arent even in games at all and they might be playing in a different lobby, and the definition of good is subjective

[atomic coyote]

Yeah, but time to time there will be like 30 playing like they are in a tourney.

[grave valley]

well thats during a tournament but regular games are 100 times easier

but yeah when there is a tourney then of course half the lobby is gonna be filled with sweats

[atomic coyote]

For you maybe, but for others its pretty hard even when there isnt a tourney.

[rocky burrow]

Get RID OF THE MINIGUN PLZ

[acoustic crypt]

no

[atomic coyote]

No.

No reason, tbh.

[dull badger]

GHOST PING

[nocturne meteor]

helo i am new in here

hi anyone want to play

[woven oasis]

@Mihirrules#3382 welcome to zombs royale! Please look for people in the right channel (#looking-for-group) and enjoy the game.

Did he actually

Did he actually leave cuz nobody played with him

Lol

[languid basalt]

F

[cobalt zephyr]

big f

[worldly ravine]

giiii @everyone

[swift thicket]

goo gun 6 ammo - 3. 12 total ammo - 6.

[cobalt zephyr]

i am looking for leaders for my clan

[stuck vapor]

😒

[bleak veldt]

nerf rubber gun and goo gun

[pliant thicket]

nerf silenced SMG

[peak mason]

yes

[dry lantern]

[weary crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsU3kwNoRFU

[upbeat raven]

a mute emote/message option

[deft seal]

Make The XBow More Common in air drops seriously its the lest common weapon for airdrops, im not saying vault it either its a pretty cracked weapon just make it more common in drops

[atomic coyote]

Making it the least common is kinda the point of a good weapon.

Would you like the game if everyone could get Vectors from crates?

[woven oasis]

They actually have equal drop rates ur just unlucky lol

@deft seal

[cobalt zephyr]

Yep

[deft seal]

breh im sad then

idas tbh

[balmy sonnet]

im on controller

[quiet basalt]

ping me with a hot take

[sly tree]

@quiet basalt

U said ping me

[languid basalt]

Where’s that hot take

[woven oasis]

lol

ive run out of hot takes

[spark tendon]

I only have cold takes

[summer dew]

aight

[jovial parcel]

U guys need to buff smoke nades

[hoary breach]

ima do a progamer move

@quiet basalt

[past star]

k

[stuck vapor]

Increase radius of smoke grenade and make them come in stacks of 5.

[grave valley]

a good suggestion, finally

[mystic crow]

ikr ^^^

agreed with both of u

[grave valley]

smokes have useless, by adding this they might actually serve a huge purpose in scrims and regular games, might actually be good for trolling content too

[mystic crow]

yea

what i was thinking, was since it’s would be a larger radius, you can use it as a troll

when u go one way but the smoke nades are somewhere else

so would be a troll

[jade oriole]

Make smoke grenades have a 120 percent radius and come in stacks of 3. Also make it so that u can see where u and ur teammates r in the smoke.

[mystic crow]

Pretty sure u can tell by the nametag your teammates have

[woven oasis]

pretty hard to see, regardless. you’re basically putting your opponent AND yourself at a disadvantage

[mystic crow]

True ig

Well then: don’t pick up smoke nades easy fix

[woven oasis]

yeah but then smokes are basically useless. so she/he’s suggesting to give them a use

[mystic crow]

hmmm

yea that’s true

but still smokes, imo, look useless unless turned into, what we already have, gas nades

[umbral gyro]

And make it so whoever threw it can see inside of the smoke

[covert herald]

hey fuckers

ass holes

[woven oasis]

@covert herald lol don't swear/bypass swear filter (u prolly won't listen to be and hurl expletives at me but whatever)

Kek he deleted his acc

mods, save the childrens eyes!!!!!!

Delete it before they become exposed to the devil!!!

!!

[ornate swan]

Should tactical shotguns be buffed?

[red walrus]

yeah

plz

[upbeat raven]

yes

[cobalt zephyr]

sub to mxdz clan

[dusky flicker]

no

[cobalt zephyr]

yes

imma kill you

in game

[dusky flicker]

if a goldfish kill me i deserved to be killed

[cobalt zephyr]

ok die then

[tribal seal]

goldfish#5986 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cobalt zephyr]

my anal cavity is hurting

its not a bad word tho

i have aids

owner sub to mxdz clan

yall can die if u dont sub now

bad word my ass

owners can die 2

ban me

for 1 min

i need it

ive been a bad boi

[grave valley]

strange mobile lobbies are the ones to have spammers lmao

pc lobbies are filled with sweats, but this also depends on the region too

[mint lagoon]

I'm use and let me tell you. Every game is spam filled

[grave valley]

ok

[mint lagoon]

With sweats that'll 4v1 you for no reason in the final 5

[grave valley]

i play on usw so idk but i guess all you can do is learn from the pros of USE and study matches from twitch streams

[mint lagoon]

The thing is that I can handle those 4v1 situations at times. Cuz yestersay I almost won every game with the same situations as I just said and today I'm just bad

[grave valley]

well USE is where most scrims are happening so there is a good chance that pros will got to a lobby, kill everyone, and then practice an end game fight in a small circle

[mint lagoon]

I was trickshotting the best players in Use

[grave valley]

ok, imma head out, good talk

[mint lagoon]

Kk nice talkingtoo

[stuck vapor]

@mint lagoon try trickshotting me

[pulsar dune]

Leadbraw=

True

[stuck vapor]

Mostly but ok

[sullen edge]

fix the bots bruh

[sick ruin]

[cobalt zephyr]

hey! i’m at 0:45 in your new video!

and if you don’t believe me, on my vid, it said i was killed by AW.Lazy Panda

keep watching your vid

and you‘ll see you killed lazy panda

@rocky frigate

Bruh bruh

Idc

Wrong channel

BRUH NOBODY CARES

@cobalt zephyr i didn’t say anyone did..

So stop and it’s in the wrong channel smfh

i don’t feel the need to listen to 10 year olds who stole their mum‘s phone to be on discord. and please, pray tell, what is the channel where you ping youtubers who put you in their vid?
you just sound dumb, and that’s from the few sentences i’ve seen you type

I’m not the ten year old you are ofc, and no you tuber cares that you’re in their vid. I am actually very smart thanks

Ur obviously dumb

it’s plain sad that you feel the need to protect yourself against a random on the internet
insecurity isn’t a good look on you, ma‘am

[grave valley]

lmao

although i do agree that this is the wrong channel

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr wrong channel again reeeeeeeeee

that aint game balance, post in #off-topic , #showcase , #general even

[ornate swan]

tactical shotgun is insanely useless at long range, you rarely use the wide spread of bullets, so maybe faster fire rate, slightly less range and less spread of bullets?

[woven oasis]

that’s basically making it more like a tac

i think faster fire rate + more damage is better

though that would put it in the league of spam weapons

[ornate swan]

less fire rate but more damage?

[woven oasis]

because it helps with chip

faster and more.

[ornate swan]

what about less range then

[woven oasis]

its damage output is pitiful

same range

[ornate swan]

spread?

[woven oasis]

it wouldn’t make it too op

same, maybe bigger

[ornate swan]

hmm so just higher fire rate and higher damage?

[woven oasis]

iirc tac does 50 damage pt. blank. with its horrible spread, usually youd only be doing 30 damage, likely less

so a damage buff would be nice

[ornate swan]

yeah if you use it pt. blank you need normally 3 shots and it is kinda hard to aim at that short of a range

[woven oasis]

pt blank is better suited to high instant damage guns like pump (obviously), p90, even AK if you’re desperate

[ornate swan]

yeah

but if you only have a tactical shotgun right after you land you are probably dead

[woven oasis]

not necessarily

tac is good early game

[ornate swan]

wait what

[woven oasis]

chip damage, high fire rate, you have an above average weapon in your hands

everyone is assumed to be at 100hp at the start/early part of the game, so having a spammy decent damage weapon keeps people away because theyre likely to not have much healing and weapons

whats the word

[ornate swan]

if they have an ak or m4 or anything of that sort at medium range then you are underpowered

[woven oasis]

ye

but you can still beat an uncommon/rare

and usually when someone has an AR early game its best to just RUN

[ornate swan]

at about medium range it only does i think like 10 damage or something idk

[woven oasis]

depends

but yeah usually thats the damage

buff tac !

[ornate swan]

how much does one bullet do

at 'long' range the bullets don't travel too fast and so it is mostly easy to dodge and at most only one bullet or two hit

the spread between each bullet is more than the width of a person and so it is somewhat easy to dodge

if you were using at medium range maybe and close range is ok but if the other person has a weapon such as an m4 ak or even a pistol and manage to avoid your shots then you are dead

so yeah buff tac by having higher damage and faster fire rate or wider spread

[cobalt zephyr]

hello

!rank

eeee

lol

[calm compass]

ok

[cobalt zephyr]

wtf keeps stream sniping me

@wind stone stop

@cobalt zephyr stop streaming then kid
or get good enough to kill him

@cobalt zephyr bruh shut up

@cobalt zephyr ill wreck you

[cobalt zephyr]

@cobalt zephyr i didnt ask, and how many wins

Nice, blek is toxic af

@cobalt zephyr fr bruh

I know

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr wrong place to complain about being bad, git gud m8

[ruby cloak]

Or git muted idk

[cobalt zephyr]

BAHAH @ruby cloak @woven oasis thx you made my day from that

fr, got me wheezing from that

[ruby cloak]

Lol ok

[woven oasis]

blek is also being toxic tho

what will it take for people to use nicer words

[cobalt zephyr]

@woven oasis but if you are getting stream sniper and want it to stop, shouldnt you stop streaming?

[woven oasis]

then again, the other guy double pinged for no reason kek

[cobalt zephyr]

and if ur getting killed repeatedly, shouldnt you be able to kill them at least once?

[woven oasis]

If you are getting stream sniped, honestly just deal with it.

There's no point to complain about something that technically isn't wrong

[languid basalt]

yea you should expect to be stream sniped if you are streaming

[umbral gyro]

Most likely yea

[hollow arrow]

yep

[woven oasis]

!!

[left wagon]

Long time no see

[ruby cloak]

nerf?????

You mean buff right

[calm compass]

ok

[umbral gyro]

The Flame Thrower needs a HUGE buff! Make the range bigger

And the amount of damage it does per sec

[ornate swan]

no

not range

i think it needs a speed buff

well yes

range and speed buff

[ornate swan]

hey do shurikens need buffing or

[sly marsh]

ya

and snowballs

they should do 7

snowballs should be buffed

[ornate swan]

i dont think they need to be too buffed just maybe a faster fire rater

are uzis balanced?

[grave valley]

hell, nah, if youve seen tier lists before, uzis are placed very low, and for good reason too, they just suck

[ornate swan]

higher ammo capacity

[grave valley]

spread would be too high, drop off is too much

[ornate swan]

what about Tommy gun

[grave valley]

literal trash, nobody likes it or uses it

slow firerate, crazy reload times, slow bullet speed,, drop off is too much, low dmg

[ornate swan]

Also we should get rid of the crossbow

The normal one

It is replaced by X bow and just doesn't work

Either get rid of Tommy gun or improve literally EVERYTHING about it

[grave valley]

yeah

[ornate swan]

Is vector balanced

seems insane at close range

shreds a max health person with most shots hitting in like 2 sec

[woven oasis]

Vector has insane drop-off that makes it pretty useless outside of point-blank

And at point blank, pump is the better option for its instant damage

Vector will force you to trade off hp with each other, sure you'll kill him but you'll lose hp as well

[ornate swan]

I guess

[kind frost]

would it be better to make rpg one hit one kill in gun game or should it just be taken out of the game mode

[woven oasis]

Neither

rpg is third party time

[acoustic crypt]

buff rpg

its damage should be 100 but double the reload time

[languid basalt]

Nah

[ornate swan]

No

then it would be kinda op

If you are at 100 hp and you manage to hit yourself with it you instantly die

normally you just get lowered a lot

If you have healing then you can heal up

[cobalt zephyr]

Ree

Imagine

Being a o

Og

[cobalt zephyr]

make a mythic pump pls

possibly a rack 9

something lie it

like*

[hollow arrow]

its to op bruh

golden pump to op

do u need more?

[sly tree]

arrow you do realise this is game balance and that would just make the game way more unbalanced.

@cobalt zephyr something like that won’t work since the legendary pump dose 123 damage and that’s a lot by it self adding a mythic pump it would be really close to being able to just 2 shot a player with full shield and hp with the mythic pump and something like a deagle or you could hit them 3 or 4 times with an ar and there dead so it would make it very unbalanced and most players and most players don’t have full hp and shield so you could just 1 shot them with the mythic pump.

[past star]

OH YA PENGU

GO OFF

U TELL EM

YESSIR

[sly tree]

Lol

@acoustic crypt that wouldn’t work since if you land at the start of the game and get a RPG you could just one shot like everyone

also double RPG just please no

[honest valley]

any one want to dou

[sly tree]

#looking-for-group

[cobalt zephyr]

@sly tree you have to be skilled with the shotgun to be able to do full damage

[sly tree]

not really

you could pump someone when they open the door

[wooden lily]

I thought you were sleeping

[sly tree]

it’s really easy

he pinged me

So I woke up

[wooden lily]

ahh

[hallow bluff]

@sly tree It actually could be added by nerfing the damage of all pumps which should have been done earlier and it would open up a new place for a new shotgun. I feel that this game needs something new because its quite boring now. There is no real reason we shouldn't add the mythic pump only because of the damage. However I feel that if they DO add the mythic pump, it wouldn't be that great because its simply a buffed legendary.

[sly tree]

oo

nice

[hallow bluff]

lmao did u read it

[sly tree]

yeah

[hallow bluff]

Hmm aren't u gonna respond??

lol

just like oo nice

[sly tree]

lol nope

got nothing too really say

[hallow bluff]

OK

I like arguing

lmao its werid

I like arguing with logic and facts

but I don't like straight out insulting ppl that's just pointless

[sly tree]

@hallow bluff well some people might not like nerfing the other pumps since finding a mythic pump is really rare and also that’s would make the mythic pump just the same a a legendary and would then leave something like the common pump down in the dust since it would be so bad and the uncommon would take the place as the common pump.

[hallow bluff]

@sly tree Can I argue that many common weapons ARE extremly bad, for example the common pistol which deals 9 damage per shot. Common pumps are however common which are more used in the early game which would reduce the deaths in the beginning making the game more fun for everyone. Also I would like to argue that this leaves room for a new shotgun which could change the gameplay in zombs royale

dang penguin

how long have u've been TYPING

[sly tree]

@hallow bluff common pumps are still really good for any point in a game especially for pinching people and also there are already 3 types of shot guns the assault the tactical and the pump there really isn’t a need for another shotgun if you have also added a mythic shot gun into the game and having lots of mythic shot guns would be kind off over do since they would have too be quite powerful yet again the pump if really powerful allready.

[hallow bluff]

well it depends

[sly tree]

yeah depends what map

[hallow bluff]

If you have like a knockback shotgun that does little damage

[sly tree]

oh

[hallow bluff]

or if you have a shotgun that is the size of lets say 3 sniper shots

its harder to hit the shots therefore reducing the strength of the weapon and adding a more skill based size

This may have to have skill base match making

but its really to be determined

[sly tree]

oke

lol

I’m gonna sleep bc I’m tired from reading so much

Gn

[rough niche]

Hi

[cobalt zephyr]

ee er

e er

😆

[woven oasis]

????

[cobalt zephyr]

.

[compact comet]

lol

[ruby cloak]

the grappling gun shouldn't be in an airdrop. The concept of an airdrop is basically a gun to overpower other players, some grenades to refill your grenade stock, and some meds to keep you at a good hp level. The grappling gun doesn't really help you overpower others, and is more like a trickshot weapon.

Also I think we all know by now that turrent really needs a buff

[languid basalt]

The turret needs way more hp, faster bullet speed and also needs a faster rotation speed

tbh the turret is as effective as a bot, if not less

[ruby cloak]

its useful in in-house fighting and as a distraction. Its bullets should actually be able to hit further than a tactical shotgun, though, or else you can just stay back and ar spray.

also it can die in like 4 snipers shots. That's too weak.

[cobalt zephyr]

@woven oasis
heres a dilemma I've been running into, should I take an SMG and some impulses/nades or a pump and reverses

I've also found smg and eagle combo to be pretty good at doors so I'm at an impasse atm

[woven oasis]

well

it's honestly also difficult for me

I'm inclined to pump, but epic silenced and legend UMP tend to change my mind sometimes.

Depends on your load out.

[ruby cloak]

If you have a strong AR, then the pump would be a better option. However, you can use the SMG option if it's really op (think epic silenced smg) because you can ditch the AR, use your sniper for med-long range, and use the extra inventory slot for nades and meds

[woven oasis]

Not rlly

[ruby cloak]

how?

the fact that its more than a minute and youre still typing suggests that im gonna be destroyed

[cobalt zephyr]

how tf does my ar choice affect my close range

actl ykw I see ur point a bit

dunno what ur on about when u say to ditch the ar

[woven oasis]

Firstly - your AR is a very big factor.
AK? High instant damage with capability to shred mid-range and onwards, but most effective when the enemy is visible. What complements it? An easy way to dish out damage without having to rely too much on skill. SMG.
AR-15? High fire rate makes for a merciless assault. Very powerful in deterring open fights. Hence pump is a good option because it complements what the AR-15 lacks

Still, the location is also a big factor

open fights usually call for pump to destroy cover, but if the circle prolongs in a hot zone and most objects are destroyed, smg is a better pick (I guess)

Big houses favour smgs, small houses favour pumps

[ruby cloak]

but if youre in the circle situation then you can't really switch, can you?

[woven oasis]

Perhaps

This is why pump is better in general

But smgs can still be good for area denial

you can easily spam a UMP in a certain choke point to deter ppl from crossing

[ruby cloak]

for me ill choose epic silenced smg over pump if i can, because of its sheer frickin power (range like an UMP but can do 200 dmg in 3 seconds or so) and because i can't aim pump shots reliably lol

[woven oasis]

lol

Smgs are just slower pumps

More reliable because you have more time to aim, less do or die but less powerful too

[ruby cloak]

ump can't really replace pump because its slow firerate means you can't use it like you use a pump while peeking-and-shooting around building corners

[cobalt zephyr]

I actually love pump and AK tho

burst and pump switch is kinda satisfying lol

pump is the best

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr preach

[cobalt zephyr]

kek

[languid basalt]

Double common glock op ngl

[arctic violet]

@languid basalt yesir

they need a mythic glock

[sly tree]

uh

[cobalt zephyr]

Yep

[umbral gyro]

Don’t ping the Devs 😐

[cobalt zephyr]

Ik

[river dust]

!rank

[sly tree]

ha

[mystic crow]

ha ha

[grave valley]

ha ha ha

[dusky flicker]

ha ha ha ha

[cobalt zephyr]

ha ha ha ha ha

Hehe

[grave valley]

ha ha ha ha ha ha

[woven oasis]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha okay stop

[languid basalt]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[cobalt zephyr]

hahahahalright

[grave valley]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[cobalt zephyr]

Can we please get rid of the flame thrower

[woven oasis]

Because its bad or because its good

Because personally I think it's an okay weapon in squads/duo

[cobalt zephyr]

Please get rid of flamethrower.....

[spark tendon]

No

[kind frost]

whats wrong with the flamethrower

[pine pike]

Buff scar

It does less dmg than a common smg as close range

And has very slow firerate

[frigid herald]

P90 as well

[neat sandal]

@cobalt zephyri hate flamethrower as wel

[dusky flicker]

cliffy no buff on the p90

[rose sigil]

[umbral gyro]

we definitely need a scar buff, and a flamerthrower, increase the range, damage, and pretty much evrything about it

[spark tendon]

yep

[languid basalt]

Increase range on the flamethrower not the dmg

It basically already shreds at close range

[ornate swan]

I think the main buff to flamethrower is a faster flame not a longer flame as it travels kinda slow but it does need a longer range and maybe the fire effect does more dmg or lasts longer

[lavish yoke]

Mythic Glock

In fact, bring back mythic versions of everything. I miss getting a mythic ar or pistol and thinking I was goated

[cobalt zephyr]

Add a Freeze grenade and replace it With Smoke Grenade

[umbral gyro]

A Freeze Grenade sounds pretty cool, it freezes the player for 5 secs and the only thing that can destroy the ice is if you have a flamethrower with you

[tender goblet]

woah

That would be cool

[upbeat raven]

isn't that just a kinda buffed snowball tho

[tired knoll]

You should ad play ground in zombs royale

[little zealot]

yes playground

[toxic canopy]

tru

[cobalt zephyr]

send me a clan link

i need a clan

[toxic canopy]

#clans-talk

there

[cobalt zephyr]

no a zr clan link vx sucks

[toxic canopy]

🤷‍♂️

[umbral gyro]

Bruh @cobalt zephyr

[cobalt zephyr]

What

[umbral gyro]

Callin Vx trash

[cobalt zephyr]

No that was before

[umbral gyro]

What’s so trash about it anyways.

Oh, k

My bad

[cobalt zephyr]

When criminal kicked me for no reason

Cause I was using bot commands

[mystic crow]

vx toxic ngl

[cobalt zephyr]

Very

[sly tree]

zt has left the chat

[mystic crow]

confirmed

[sterile locust]

Buff the Tommy gun

[left wagon]

I don't play this game that much anymore

[kind frost]

Thank you for letting us know

[winged mountain]

Lol

[pine pike]

nerf reverse impulses grab radius by 10%

also buff scar dmg overall

like a common mp5 can do more lol

[dusky flicker]

25% is a lot. It would be like the old reverse

[olive bolt]

imo the current reverse range is balanced already

[plain granite]

Pls make a mythic Uzi that would be awsome

like if u agree

[umbral gyro]

That would just be a like a slower Vector...

[warped thunder]

it probably would have higher damage(like ALOT) but i rather use a scar

Might aswell add a double-barrel shotgun if you are thinking bout a mythic Uzi

[plain granite]

meh i could go without that but i want the trash weapons that no one picks up to be actually usefull like dual berattas make legendary ones

[umbral gyro]

true, maybe like epic dual barettas or a mythic glock

a mythic pistol would be cool

[raw abyss]

inxtax

[sly tree]

uzis trash straight up there’s no point wasting time to add a mythic one

[little zealot]

make a silenced sniper

[raw abyss]

who want to play zombs with me

[patent lagoon]

zombs can you make trade

[cobalt zephyr]

@raw abyss are u good?

[warm echo]

sup

me i will play ombs

[sly tree]

okay I didn’t ask

[warm echo]

who want to play zombs

[cobalt zephyr]

Add Playground where you can just 1v1 your friends but Call It Private Match!!🇾 🇪 🇸

[mystic crow]

Costs too much to add, maintaining servers costs them a lot

[cobalt zephyr]

Who wants To Play Some Zombs

??

[waxen turret]

#looking-for-group @cobalt zephyr

[cobalt zephyr]

Oh Sorry. Thank You

[rough fractal]

buff silenced smg

[dusky flicker]

no

[languid basalt]

Wtf no

[cobalt zephyr]

its already buff enough. If you want something more buff, then don't sue an smg smh

[umbral gyro]

buff, scar, flamethrower, uzi, and turret gun

[sly tree]

flamethrower

....

@umbral gyro the flamethrower dose like 15 dmg plus the 3-2 burn dmg

[ornate swan]

Problem is its range and speed is too low

flame thrower needs either a speed buff or a range buff

And I don't mean fire rate I mean travel speed

and maybe 1 extra burn dmg

at close range it can kill easily but because each flame shot deals 15 dmg and it shoots about like 3 shots a sec against a person with a shotgun will kill quicker and don't forget that the flame thrower travels so slow it's useless against medium range unless one hits them miraculously

Sooo flame thrower needs a buff lol

[cobalt zephyr]

nahh, Kids would like spam the sh*t out of you

add like trading with skins that you can trade battlepass skins and shop skins + chest skins and stuff + add some more free chest skins.

[spark tendon]

no trades allowed in here

[sinful pine]

@cobalt zephyr

[woven oasis]

!

[umbral gyro]

@sly tree I did not mean the damage, the range and speed needs to get buffed

[manic egret]

.

[sly tree]

lol no

thats still bad

[twilit dirge]

Nerf the P90. At close range it could kill you easier than a grey-blue pump shotgun

[grave valley]

well if you have bad positioning and strafing then yes, but then, most people will agree that pumps are better

[twilit dirge]

yes if you are close enough

[radiant veldt]

Add playground mode for like 1v1s or custom games

That would be nice

[dusky flicker]

They can not

Money

[radiant veldt]

Why not

???

Oh hi

Ur in AWP too

[dusky flicker]

Ye

But they can't it cost to much miney

[radiant veldt]

Awww

[sly tree]

yeah

[swift thicket]

[tidal scarab]

lellelelelellellelelell

mothertrucker

[sly mirage]

LOLOLOL THIS SERVER SH*T

[tidal scarab]

tru

true

tur

tru

tur

turd

tru

turd

tru

hi

true

helllo

[grave valley]

facepalm

[uncut canopy]

Buff scars

Buff ak damage if it is going to be burst?

Crossbow acts like a nerfed sniper rifle

I haven't looked at damage tablrs yet, I'll do that later today

Does anyone know if the wiki has accurate damage tables?

[dusky flicker]

ak dmg pretty good

[cobalt zephyr]

hi

anal

[olive bolt]

@uncut canopy you have to check leadbraw's stats sheet for damage tables

[cobalt zephyr]

can u give me anal

[olive bolt]

no

[cobalt zephyr]

NOW

plz

[languid basalt]

uummm

[cobalt zephyr]

give me anal

[spark tendon]

wtf

[cobalt zephyr]

salut

[warm echo]

hello

[warped thunder]

How about give the grenade launcher the same function as the grenades,the further the cursor the further it goes

[ornate swan]

doesnt it work like that already?

[potent prairie]

i think it does

[chilly mist]

https://discord.gg/zombsroyale

[cobalt zephyr]

@chilly mist this is a channel for game-balance why would u post the invite of this server here

[cobalt zephyr]

buff grenade launcher to 40 damge

Nerf the rubber gun, it does same damage as a mythic AK which is OP alone, but when it can get you almost anywhere and almost has aimbot, that’s ridiculous.

[grave valley]

same dmg as mythic ak, are you high, the rubber gun doesnt deal 20 damage per pellet

[cobalt zephyr]

it does if it bounces 69 times

[grave valley]

true

[warped thunder]

The weakness to the rubber gun is when there is no surface to bounce on

9 damage is really laughable compared to a AR-15

[wild owl]

sneeza? more like feeza

[covert osprey]

Pls balance the freaking dragonov

It's so bad

[wild owl]

Lol

[covert osprey]

Awp way better

[wild owl]

ik

I think bolt is better than dragonuv

[covert osprey]

I hit a guy 3 times and didn't die and he didn't heal one time

The dragonov sucks

Balance the RPG's too change the damages of each rarity

[wild owl]

MAybe he was sheilding?????????????

[spark tendon]

maybe it was hybird potion

[woven oasis]

@covert osprey Dragunov does 77 damage per shot, unless you shot it close range you should be dealing at least 231 damage

[covert osprey]

Then yang needs to fix his glitchy game

Don't ping me

[cobalt zephyr]

Ya that’s happened to me also before it’s weird I shot a kid 3 times with an awp from far away and he didn’t die

[cobalt zephyr]

yall really hating on dragunov, its insane with knockback, sound is nuts, and increased damage and range. just isnt good in final circles. much rather have bolt for slower reload and i feel like i move faster when reloading a bolt vs a dragunov.

[woven oasis]

ikr

[simple pulsar]

ppppppppppppppppppppp

[cobalt zephyr]

dragonuv best

change my mind you won't

😆

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr AWP better

!!!

drag is hard to find, AWP is easier to obtain because Airdrop have a limited pool of weapons

plus bigger range and damage

The only selling point of the Dragunov is the velocity and knockback

[cobalt zephyr]

@woven oasis AWP's bullets are slow enough to run away...

[dusky flicker]

you able to slow down time?

[cobalt zephyr]

no lol

they just slow

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr the perceived speed difference is possibly because of the greater range of the AWP making perspective different. The AWP has the edge over the Dragunov in

1. Rarity. Its much easier to obtain an AWP than a Dragunov.
2. Vision Range. Even if its just a few tiles, it can make all the difference because you are able to react faster. However, I will agree that this is a small factor.
3. Damage output. Though the difference is only by 3 points, it may make or break a fight. Again, it is in fact a small factor.
4. Reload speed. Dragunov has a 1.2 second reload while AWP has only 1.0s.
   However, the Dragunov beats the AWP in
5. Faster bullet speed. However, the bullet speed of both the AWP and the Dragunov are already fast enough that speed difference doesn't make a huge impact. So I'll classify it as a small factor.
6. Knockback. It's a unique feature that..... Actually doesn't provide much use. The enemy is already far away, pushing them further doesn't really matter, honestly. The knockback of the Dragunov is very niche and might be useful in very specific plays but otherwise doesn't add much more value than it just being a scare tactic.

And AWP bullet speed is actually the same as a bolt's. If your enemy is able to run away from you shot then it's called a miss.

AWP > Dragunov based on facts.
AWP has 4 advantages while Dragunov has 2. Numbers-wise the AWP is better.

[cobalt zephyr]

ive found 5 dragunovs the last hour and no awps were seen so 1 is wrong

Vision Range is nothing on the comp level now

3 points is literally nothing

and the 1.2 sec are a big difference yes

but the knockback and bullet speed are very important in dragunov

[woven oasis]

Difference in bullet speed isn't very huge

And you're just being lucky

numbers don't lie

[cobalt zephyr]

uhh

no.

[woven oasis]

Sure, you can have opinions on the weight of each of the factors, but numbers wise, drag is worse than awo

[cobalt zephyr]

on the comp level dragunov is better

[woven oasis]

You can classify the two advantages of the drag as much bigger ones than the AWP, sure I don't mind

[cobalt zephyr]

well yes

[woven oasis]

But numbers wise, AWP is better

[cobalt zephyr]

the Rarity one is wrong though

[woven oasis]

This is numbers

Rarity is subjective

[cobalt zephyr]

and i dont care about numbers, I care about winning the game

[woven oasis]

Airdrop has a lower weapon pool than golden chests

[cobalt zephyr]

🤔

[woven oasis]

Therefore it would make sense to classify the AWP as easier to obtain, even if there is much more gold chests than airdrops

[cobalt zephyr]

well yeah that is subjective too

[woven oasis]

Simply put, AWP to an AVERAGE player, is better than the Dragunov.

[cobalt zephyr]

yes

[woven oasis]

I would honestly take drag over awp

[cobalt zephyr]

average players bad 🤣

[woven oasis]

But the fact of the matter is, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AWP > Dragunov

Ok bye I'm going back to work

Ping me with an essay if u want to convince me otherwise

I'm open to anything

I'll try my best to have a balanced viewpoint

[cobalt zephyr]

XD

i dont really care

[woven oasis]

Cool

so you jumped into this while staying fixated on one view, asking others to challenge your opinion while in fact you were never going to change it and all the effort made by those people who spoke against you was ultimately meaningless

Great

[maiden ibex]

lol

[ionic dirge]

Well said

[woven oasis]

pp

[cobalt void]

Make different severs for mobile

[warped thunder]

How about give the grenade launcher the same function as the grenades,the further the cursor the further it goes
I have done my research and no the grenade launcher has a fixed range and no matter where the cursor is it won't change how far it goes so i was wondering if you could give them the same function as nades which allows players to control where the nade goes,instead of the range being a perimeter around you,it would be better if the range was a area around you.

[grave valley]

good idea

[warped thunder]

Didn't think you would say that but thanks for your support!

[rocky frigate]

now it must do 15 dmg only

[grave valley]

15 dmg would make it so useless, even with auditors idea, that it will need its own tier in a tier list

[cobalt zephyr]

Yep

[red willow]

Make the rocket launcher reload time longer, it makes no sense how to can spam rockets as fast as a sniper

[covert osprey]

If they would make the reload time slower, then to balance the rocket launcher they would have to increase the damage

[grave valley]

rocket launchers arent bad, but they arent good, either dont see the point in the nerf

anyways just because it doesnt make sense mean that you have to change it

[red willow]

The rocket launcher already has 100 damage and a 1 second reload, is that not broken enough?

Atleast make it reload slower than a sniper would if you are going to make the sniper do less damage than a rocket

[wooden lily]

I agree

[grave valley]

actually, each rpg, no matter what rarity cant do 100 dmg, it cant 1 hit kill someone at 100 hp, a 1 second reload is completely fair, as it can easily be dodged, and even in indoor fights, by just getting yourself in a better position, you can completely avoid the rocket, snipers are obviously superior and in every which is what makes the most optimal long range high dmg dealing weapon in comp and casual play, the rpg isnt an s tier or a tier, it isnt broken at all

[ionic dirge]

Exactly!

[woven oasis]

now it must do 15 dmg only
@rocky frigate what if it did but it also explodes on impact on players

@grave valley omg u referenced my tier list (or leads) I'm so happy

[grave valley]

oh wait, it already was in a tier of its own

not really but still

[rocky frigate]

?

[woven oasis]

Grenade launcher

[stuck vapor]

Nerf grenade launcher too op the grenade bounced back and killed me pls nerf too op

[cobalt zephyr]

so you jumped into this while staying fixated on one view, asking others to challenge your opinion while in fact you were never going to change it and all the effort made by those people who spoke against you was ultimately meaningless
@woven oasis exactly
so taking stuff out of that
im cool

[woven oasis]

clearly

ZombsRoyale.io Guns Tier List (Unofficial)
Disclaimer: This list is not conclusive and is open to interpretation. Each weapon is compared with the same rarities of different guns of the same class.

S+ TIER
A cut above the S TIER weapons, purely by sheer power.
AWP
XM8
Pump Shotgun
Scoped M4
Silenced SMG
Silenced AR-15

S TIER
The most powerful and/or usable weapons in game.
AR-15
AK
UMP
Vector
Bolt-Action
Dragunov
Assault SCAR
Frag Grenades
Reverse Impulse Grenade
Impulse Grenade
Hybrid Potions

A TIER
Good substitutes for the S TIER weapons
M4
Deagle
Goo Gun
Gassy Grenade
Big Shield
Small Shields
Med Kit

A- TIER
Suitable substitute substitutes for the substitutes of S TIER... Basically, they're okay
XBow
P90
RPG
Rubber Gun
Semi-Auto Sniper
Cactus Bomb

B TIER
Not exactly the best, but can still hold their own in the hands of good players
Assault Shotgun
SCAR
MG36
MP5
Silenced Pistol
Bandages
Turret
Grapple Gun

C TIER
Hardly used, but still picked up and can act as decent early game weapons
Dual Barrettas
Tactical Shotgun
VSS
Crossbow
Snowman Grenade
Snowball

D TIER
Terrible weapons. It's used seriously by only the unprofessional.
TommyGun
Flamethrower
Minigun
Glock

F TIER
Absolute garbage. Will not help you in almost any situation. Only use these weapons if you're toxic lmao
P2000
Uzi
Grenade Launcher
Smoke Grenade

Let me know if I missed anything, or you think a weapon should be lower or higher. Keep in mind that this is not everyone's list, so your opinions may differ from mine. However, I will take into account all and any suggestions.

special thanks to riptide, knawal, aeon, leadbraw, v3nom and jay bot YT. Yall are epic gamers.

[warped thunder]

Dragunov is S

what

[woven oasis]

@cobalt zephyr don't worry, it's okay to air your opinions. P90 in my opinion doesn't have enough instant power to let it be any tier higher than it already is. It's DPS is outclassed by most SMGs of the same rarity. Also yes Drag is S

[dusky flicker]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wFtWUBUvktKnA0FdXYEnJiohSEI-feXO9-d_6CxFIww/edit#gid=1785564790

not mine

[woven oasis]

I know, it's leadbraw's

[languid basalt]

why do we have stat sheets for a 2d browser game 🤦‍♂️

[summer dew]

why not

[dusky flicker]

why wouldn't we

[woven oasis]

@languid basalt cuz its actually pretty good considering its a 2d browser game

its legit cemented itself as a competitor to agar.io and slither.io

[languid basalt]

Yea ig

[grave valley]

zr was the 10th most searched game in 2018

[grave valley]

so it would just be a super crappy version of other battle royales lmao

[latent smelt]

stop spaming

o

lol
@cobalt zephyr

[uncut canopy]

yo

we need to have a cooldown on this channel

I'd say 1 minute is a good time

[warped thunder]

1 minute is like a god damm year

[spark tendon]

lmao

[grave valley]

true

how are we supposed to discuss game balance with a 1 min cooldown lmao

i get it with suggestions but game balance is a place where you are meant to talk

[languid basalt]

@cobalt zephyr 3D zombs existed for a bit back in the og days

[cobalt zephyr]

Nah

[languid basalt]

@cobalt zephyr yuh

[cobalt zephyr]

That was an April fools

[languid basalt]

Ik I was jk

[cobalt zephyr]

🤦‍♂️

You can’t get an OG

[languid basalt]

Wdym

[woven oasis]

@grave valley lol they put a slow mode?

[wild iris]

Aight

Good lord

[tranquil raven]

https://coveninvite.lol.garena.com/invite?invitation=SFO7831J18L1A7Q3&fbclid=IwAR1ZklqZvTd1SBsAIMVQw0dmW-NmBY49aqjBORlM6qCqCETIMfswE0ZDcgk

[sly tree]

@cobalt zephyr #clans-talk

[tardy nexus]

wewewew

[cobalt zephyr]

@cobalt zephyr #clans-talk

[cobalt zephyr]

please fix asia ping , it was 85 ms before now its 120ms

[left tiger]

fff

[unkempt edge]

@everyone

[cobalt zephyr]

Nice one

[wet vale]

@cobalt zephyr please post this in #off-topic or better yet, not at all

[granite yoke]

https://youtu.be/ObaCzzAC6Qs

[cobalt zephyr]

m m mm mm mm i wish you could go up a another floor that would be cool!

[uncut canopy]

you need a cooldown since there is not a lot of balance talk but

a ton of spam

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt zephyr]

What is game balance for

[brittle junco]

||yeah||

[woven oasis]

Things like buff scar

Or tier lists

[cobalt zephyr]

Yep

[woven oasis]

Or what concerns the games balance

[cobalt zephyr]

nerf scar tho

[woven oasis]

Like ar15 op

[cobalt zephyr]

jk

[woven oasis]

Wtf scar is bad

[cobalt zephyr]

Yep

[woven oasis]

Kekw

[cobalt zephyr]

when you don’t have nitro

kekw

But wait

You do