#game-balance

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amber spindle
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oh

grand nexus
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??

amber spindle
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ok bye plaing a game

drifting cloak
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He just got it @grand nexus

cobalt zephyr
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yeah its cofusing

drifting cloak
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XD

grand nexus
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i didnt tho lawl

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im a noob to discord

cobalt zephyr
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mhm

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but you haev the role lol?

grand nexus
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yes

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but i hav da IQ of a st0ne

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pls help me

drifting cloak
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I personally feel the trident is a better implementation then the hammer

cobalt zephyr
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it is

drifting cloak
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It's damage is a lot better balanced, and the direct hit is quite easily dogable due to it's slow projectile speed

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it is a very powerful tool, ofc

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but there is 1 in the game

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so...

grand nexus
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yes

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the hammer was op

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the trident is too

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but it, at least needs some skill to play well

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the hammer just

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was like

cobalt zephyr
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like the hammer had the explosion of 3 frag grenades

drifting cloak
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Trident can be countered

grand nexus
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yeet

drifting cloak
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no matter the skill level

grand nexus
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and then everyone died

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i mean yes it can

drifting cloak
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With smart positional play, and some fair use of predictive pathing, it's not too hard

grand nexus
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but a weapon needs a certain skill level if i succ at using it cuz i am a bot and luv minicuns

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miniguns

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btw

drifting cloak
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but as you say, the higher the skill of the player using it, the more devastating it can get

grand nexus
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yes

drifting cloak
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it's very different when Im playing vs Samaju or Chosen, holding the trident, or a random player

grand nexus
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like u r just casually running around with no cover cuz ur a bot like me and then someone with a bolt action sniper aims in at you and does the thing where they throw da trident and then follow with a snpe

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snipe

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always gets me

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oof

cobalt zephyr
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yeah its commenly used with sniper, frag grenades and shotguns

amber spindle
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that's why its so op

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if you are very skilled you can drop a 20 bomb lol

cobalt zephyr
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well you need skill to use the trident

amber spindle
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but then again, you have to be skilled

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yeah

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i know

cobalt zephyr
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if you would just throw the trident into nothing, then yeah

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pffft

amber spindle
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yeah

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its not that op then

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btw nice profile pic lol

cobalt zephyr
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huh thors hammer was unbalanced

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oh thanks

amber spindle
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yeah

cobalt zephyr
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it had the explosion radius of 2 frag grenades

amber spindle
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yeah

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that was just to much

cobalt zephyr
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and oh boi one frag grenade has already a BIG range

amber spindle
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this weapon, you need skill

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ik

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that is why i love the frags

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in close quarters

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cya, gonna watch yt

grand nexus
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bai

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šŸ‘‹

limpid ravine
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nerf minigun or remove it

crystal coral
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No

ruby cloak
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You can kill minigunners pretty easily (just circle/snipe them) so nah

crystal coral
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@tawny mortar ^

torpid knot
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@drifting cloak but if you're really good with the trident its almost impossible to counter. like in Clan Squads the trident can be the only reason a team wins the round

dense vault
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Nerf the mini gun ROF

drifting cloak
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Sure @torpid knot, which brings the contention for the trident into play

torpid knot
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true

drifting cloak
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This aspect creates a whole new game dynamic revolving around who will be the first to get to the trident, and quite frankly (in my opinion) if both clans were to perform at peak strategy, who got the trident or not, wouldn't matter as much, since they should in theory be bumping into each other at or around the trident spawn

torpid knot
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sometimes you get a spawn too far tho. like you're in Blossum, and it spawns at Cyber

drifting cloak
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Sure, I was about to say, in case you bring that point up

torpid knot
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a suggested change could make it at the middle all the time

drifting cloak
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it takes time to get the trident itself, and at the stage where the trident spawn, dont forget the gas circle has narrows down considerably

torpid knot
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true

drifting cloak
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making the trident location more easily reachable from almost any spot on the leftover safe zone

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with a goal oriented through process, you could say optimal approach would be to hang around somewhere in the middle of each circle, to have the closest linear distance to the trident spwan

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negating the randomness / luck factor

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"! !#VaulttheTridentToday at 8:49 PM
a suggested change could make it at the middle all the time"

The random spwan does make it so your clan is not always defending or attacking at the location, rather it's exchanged based on who is slightly closer

torpid knot
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yes, randomness is a killer for competitive gameplay, i wouldnt mind it. If the game wasnt random ,competive gameplay would be unquittable. and would last ages

drifting cloak
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yeah, for sure, good point šŸ‘

crystal coral
torpid knot
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look at Fortnite. it shrinked to 3/4 of its size almost all because of randomness. id not want this game to go the same path

drifting cloak
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Fortnite map is absolutely massive

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Zombs hit quite a nice ratio between size, to average player lobby capacity

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but then expanded that map size slightly with the second iteration of the map (the current one)

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But it's still fine imo

torpid knot
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population size thats what i meant lol @drifting cloak

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popularity*

drifting cloak
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Idk, I fell in love with zombs for it's 4-7 min round game durations

torpid knot
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yes same

drifting cloak
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and am enjoying it still immensely

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(less time for it sadly lately, but hey, you do the best you can XD)

rigid orchid
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goran said "XD"

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šŸ˜

crystal coral
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Ok

feral dove
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😦

slim violet
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Trident is pretty balanced, but the 25 dmg through objects is a little OP. Nerf it to 15. For those complaining about the trident, shut up. The trident is only dangerous in the hands of good players and if you find it difficult to counter all the time, you're just bad.

supple frigate
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the trident is supposed to be OP xD but I don`t mind a damage reduction

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too many are complaining

old cipher
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trident is useless

crystal coral
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For u

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Trident is good

old cipher
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nah

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i saw somebody got a trident

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he tried to kills within'

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almost get no dmg

crystal coral
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Trident is good so xP

gusty fox
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the trident is good for attacking/defending buildings

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but not that great out in the open

crystal coral
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Is just that people don't know how to use trident xD

gusty fox
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exactly] XD

bronze cliff
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It works in the open too

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Especially with people taking cover behind trees

gusty fox
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yeah, but if you see it coming, then that won't be a problom

bronze cliff
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True that

gusty fox
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the trident has pretty slow speed, and a long recharge, so snipers are better out in the open against it

bronze cliff
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At least it can be used to keep people busy
(Easier way to stop people from medding than just slowly mowing through trees with an AR)

gusty fox
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oh, I'm not saying that it is bad

bronze cliff
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It's another object for them to dodge
It's still usable in the open IMO

eager sluice
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legendaries are so common

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i even found a mythic on my first box

gusty fox
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I'm saying that it isn't necessary the best option in every situation
(unlike AR's)

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(well, ish)

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yeah @bronze cliff it is good as a spacing tool, people are afraid to get hit by it, just like RPGs

bronze cliff
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I'm so bad at strafing/dodging things that Tridents or RPGs flying at me take most of my attention
And I can't concentrate on actually shooting the enemy very well

eager sluice
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the key thing is flanking

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always shoot from behind if given the chance

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it takes time for them to turn and a lot can happen in 2 seconds

round sonnet
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trident should be a support item, not your main damage dealing item

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i don't understand why it should deal 70 damage on direct hit

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it's not a crossbow

bronze cliff
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My guess is because it's supposed to be hard to get a direct hit with a slow-moving projectile
Kind of like how a rocket direct hit does 90 damage

round sonnet
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yeah well... idk. technically, yes. practically, trident is already a great weapon. it really doesn't need that much damage to go along with its infinite pulling action

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nerf the damage to like 50 on direct hit and 15 on nearby

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or maybe buff crossbow? how much does that thing deal?

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make it deal 100 at max range

ruby cloak
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Wait uranus are you the same guy who was in the starblast server?

onyx jolt
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i hear you mobile players
make x-bow only fire when releasing the shoot button in mobile

ruby cloak
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If you hear mobile players, then.....
Mobile Nicknames!!!!

cobalt zephyr
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yes

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yesterday i lost a game on mobile bcuz my x bow shot when i didnt intend it to

ruby cloak
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Also, shouldn't the dragonuv be rarer than golden bolts?

unique vigil
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@cobalt zephyr Until they make it so, if you just tap where you wanna shoot briefly it should get you kills

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Because It deals like 110 damage if ya hit both bolts @cobalt zephyr

blissful trail
bronze cliff
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It's especially nice if an opponent is taking weak cover (bush or wounded tree) because if one of the bullets takes out the cover, the remaining one can be surprising

blissful trail
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Please join

bronze cliff
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Most (if not all) of the people on this server already play ZR

blissful trail
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Just join please

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Please

cobalt zephyr
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Hi

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@unique vigil ya ik
Was just saying that it's really frustrating for a player like me with bad aim

round sonnet
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@ruby cloak that does seem to be the case. hello, fellow starfighter pilot

severe storm
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!rank

cobalt zephyr
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Play zombsroyale plz now and add

vapid harness
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@rose lion nerf the p90

cobalt zephyr
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šŸ‘Œ šŸ‘Œ šŸ‘Œ

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APIXY

grizzled plover
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bruh

wicked arrow
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The trident is only dangerous in the hands of good players
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False

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The trident is extremely spammable and easy to hit since it does dmg in an area to everyone but you and your teammates

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Should be balanced by either reducing the damage it does or making it so you can hurt yourself with it

crystal coral
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Trident is good

ruby cloak
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Yeah, all the players who claim trident is trash just don't know how to use it.
You know what else is good? Mobile Nicknames.

rocky frigate
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Mobile Nicknames Are Arriving, No More Spams Please!

crystal coral
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Everyone says "Mobile nicknames" there

slim lark
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cool down

eager sluice
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Make it so you can carry only 3 grenades in one slot

craggy osprey
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Y

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People spam them and kill you?

crystal coral
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Lol no @eager sluice

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9 grenades as max is fine

eager sluice
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9 grenades is the max right now?

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@crystal coral

crystal coral
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Ye

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And thats fine

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No need to change it

eager sluice
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That's like about as much as the bandages

bronze cliff
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What's wrong with that?

crystal coral
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Razer toaster ik u got killed by people with grenades xd

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There not gonna change it 9 grenades as max is fine

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So leave it as is

eager sluice
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What's the max damage of grenades?

crystal coral
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90

bronze cliff
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they always do 90
unless they do 0

eager sluice
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you can kill someone within 2 grenades

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if no shields

bronze cliff
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1 to 3 nades, depending on the health

crystal coral
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Ye

bronze cliff
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why is that bad
It's fairly hard to hit people with them

eager sluice
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it's an aoe effect

keen cargo
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But you can force people to move in a certain direction (away from the blast) so you can shoot where they are going

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But it is kinda hard to pull that off

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Effective against players opening the airdrop or taking the trident

craggy osprey
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You can also bounce grenade off a door or a wall and blow up urself, trust me, it’s the best way to go

round sonnet
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you're talking like everybody's a god who can flawlessly connect every grenade

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they are quite hard to use, y'know

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and rare

keen cargo
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Reverse/Grenade is moderately hard, but effective against players camping in houses or players reviving.
If successful, you can remove nearly all their shield or literally make them one-shot.

cobalt zephyr
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general for memes and good times

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UrANUS_is_smal

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*YourANUS_is_big

round sonnet
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i mean, sure

zealous pond
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why can you pull people through walls with impulse grenade.

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that shouldnt be a thing.

round sonnet
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without that bug... that feature, they would be quite worthless

zealous pond
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oki doki

cobalt zephyr
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;/

bronze cliff
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I remember when you could pickaxe people through walls
that was fun

round sonnet
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it still works on occasions

bronze cliff
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the opponent has to be pressed against the wall though
It's not half as easy anymore

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Nowadays, if you can pickaxe a player in any situation, you could also have hit the player with any other weapon
Whereas before, normal weapons wouldn't work through walls

cobalt zephyr
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no u

round sonnet
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oh heck

cobalt zephyr
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is it Yeet? Squeet? or even FLEET

round sonnet
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Elite Yeet Fleet Leaderā„¢ will delete your feet

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please, panic.

cobalt zephyr
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B u f f T r i d e n t

woven oasis
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nO

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trident does 25 purely by its succ, and actually does more total damage than thors hammer

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plus its succ is stronger

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you know what they should do

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BUFF VSS

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Increase movement speed and on VSS, and increase bullet velocity and damage (maybe 35 to 40) of hunting

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Add rare Hunting

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that should spice up the sniper game and change the overly bolt-centred meta

bronze cliff
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VSS used to deal the same amount of damage per bullet that an AK does

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but they nerfed it

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Its weakness used to be that it required lots of large ammo to operate properly
But now it's only small

woven oasis
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yeah

bronze cliff
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Sorry, I meant VSS, not trident šŸ˜„

woven oasis
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but right now, it does too little to slow

bronze cliff
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It is a little underwhelming, isn't it?

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It's kind of like an AR with a really small clip but a scope and low damage

woven oasis
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if you take the best case scenario - 75% of bullets hit with maximum damage and legendary - 78 damage done within a time span of which a bolt/ak combo could deal way more

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maybe also increase bullet velocity

unique vigil
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so that it goes faster?

woven oasis
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yeah

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even harder to dadge

unique vigil
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Yeah

woven oasis
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dodge

unique vigil
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To make it an actual challenge

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Or

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Good weapon I meab

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N*

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I feel as if the hunting rifle should have a larger mag sizd

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Maybe like 5

woven oasis
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i find that damage is not really vss’ selling point - i feel that its a sniper that help deals chip damage whilst setting up mid/close range opportunities, so in that sense they should buff the speeds of general movement, movement while shooting, movement while reloading and bullet velocity.

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its actually really good in mind games, because snipers that deal heavy damage will alert the enemy of their low health and they begin to play more defensively. however, this kind of chip damage is less noticed, and once the enemy realises that they’re at 23 hp it’s too late

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as for hunting, a clip of 5 is reasonable. thats a good enough buff, plus maybe adding rare

bronze cliff
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If the hunting rifle had a more intimidating sound effect I feel like it would be more popular
Its current little pop makes it seem like a toy gun

cobalt zephyr
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.

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Bruh I'm prošŸ˜‚

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Add me

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!rank

heady gyro
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Goo Gun

bronze cliff
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what about it?

high crown
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Person below me is g a y

pine pike
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U n o

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REVERSE

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Card

bronze cliff
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looking at it, why is this exact conversation in every channel? lol

eternal solstice
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To be honest the game devs are really lazy. They have not given us a good update in a long time. Sure skins are nice but I like fresh content. Locations, skins and that battlepass that comes around every 2 months just isn’t enough. They aren’t adding weapons, listening to their community or fixing glitches fast enough. I’d like to see an airdrop shotgun or silenced pistols. Start vaulting some old weapons and replace with the new. We are on season 9 and still have the stupid drum gun and gift launcher. They need to add mobile nicknames, bring the daily item shop back and more stuff you can buy with Z-coins. I’m really disappointed with how ZombsRoyale is turning out and how yang is always at a Ariana grande concert instead of fixing his only good game. Please work harder EndGame

trim locust
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nerf P90

supple frigate
round sonnet
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@woven oasis what's wrong with them bolt-centered meta? it's a high risk/high reward weapon, tricky to use but powerful, and very comletitive

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why would you want more bullet spam in this wonderful game of overpowered SMGs?

supple frigate
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4 months and the Vector is still worse than the p90 despite it being an airdrop weapon

round sonnet
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close range combat is already filled with spray and pray gameplay. long range is bolts and crossbows. let it be that way

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@supple frigate it has higher DPS tho, no?

supple frigate
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no it doesn't

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when do you see any good players taking the vector over a p90

round sonnet
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give me some numbers

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dmg and firerate pls

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of the weapons in question

supple frigate
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if you go and use the vector you'll see what i mean

round sonnet
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i have used it a plenty. as far as i am aware, it deals damage faster than p90, but has less total damage stored in its clip

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but i haven't actually looked at the numbers

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if you could find the numbers for me, that'd be just grand

rocky frigate
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Vault vector for Mythic Shotgun Airdrop Weapon SmilinRosey

supple frigate
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you know the doob?

rocky frigate
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Isn’t there a silenced dmg coming out?

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Smg*

supple frigate
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nah probably there is gonna be a hitscan gun

round sonnet
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come on dude, i R E Q U I R E numbers

supple frigate
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go figure it out yourself

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record how long it takes to use a mag of each weapon

round sonnet
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numbers are a N E C E S S I T Y brother

rocky frigate
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New shotgun and vaulting vector = 1% less spray!SmilinRosey

supple frigate
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then do mag size divided by time taken to fire it all

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and u have ur fire rate

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ez pz

round sonnet
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am at phone rn, is a brick from 2015

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this thing would turn into a cloud of phone matter if i tried to run ZR on it

supple frigate
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if theres gonna be a mythic shotgun it would probably be a double barrel long range weapon

rocky frigate
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Yes

supple frigate
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shoots twice fast, medium reload, the shells have less falloff and is about the distance of the Assault Shotgun

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and the pellets are not spread out

round sonnet
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could be that AA13 thing or whatever its called

rocky frigate
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anOtHeR kiNd oF bOw

supple frigate
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boom bow Kappa

rocky frigate
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Long bow

round sonnet
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AR+shotgun mix

rocky frigate
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Oh

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Add knifes to the pistols, deal 23 dmg now when meleeSmilinRosey

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Wouldn’t make sense cuz you could get a sword as a melee butSmilinRosey

cobalt zephyr
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can i play a duo match with one of the youtubers or streamers or just in general good players?

cobalt zephyr
analog marten
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Make capes and swords more common to get out of chests I have 20 skins and no swords or capes

crystal coral
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No

analog marten
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Why

crystal coral
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U need to earn them from Battle pass @analog marten

analog marten
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No u

crystal coral
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Already finished battle pass like a week ago and max evolution parachute too

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šŸ‘Œ

analog marten
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Make them available in chests

lime spruce
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ok

fast fractal
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Melee weapons are available in chests they have a higher rarity

lime spruce
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lol#

rigid orchid
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@lime spruce that is one crazy ass name

fast fractal
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@eternal solstice They aren’t lazy at all. I don’t think you understand how difficult producing all the graphics are as well as coding all of the interactions and testing it out. It’s kind of entitled the way to us act like they don’t work hard or enough then you ask for more things for free.

eternal solstice
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Yea alright that’s a good point. Didn’t think of that

tame ingot
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nerf the new grenade 4 but goo gun speed bruh....

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make back bling availabel from basic chest

cobalt zephyr
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Hey dudes

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TheMyth#2503

amber spindle
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mythic pump

cobalt zephyr
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Goo gun vault?? It really is annoying because if you have 50 shield it can almost completely get rid of it and if somebody gets it they just spam it

naive gull
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@cobalt zephyr

cobalt zephyr
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Dm if you would like for your clan to be enrolled in a competitive league.

woven oasis
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theres a reason why goo gun has a trash clip

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also the spray is huge and range terrible

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you could even probably outrun a bullet

cobalt zephyr
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#BoycottUMG

unique vigil
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@woven oasis yeah. If they nerf it at all the clip would be the thing.

cobalt zephyr
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We love the earth

crystal coral
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No links here

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Nor invites

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@cobalt zephyr @lavish smelt Please remove it

lavish smelt
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why

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And my English is bad

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can you speak chinese?

crystal coral
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@unique crown

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Boi

unique crown
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Girl

crystal coral
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ok

worthy cosmos
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Why can’t s this game so good

cobalt zephyr
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Europe : FBI OPEN UP

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(╯°▔°)╯︵ ┻━┻

crystal coral
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Me: BlastOffEmote

cobalt zephyr
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SMH wanna do duos?

crystal coral
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I can't rn sorry

cobalt zephyr
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is ok

crystal coral
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MAybe later if i remember

grand nexus
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maybe šŸ¤”

crystal coral
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maybe

elder ginkgo
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add a syphon

crystal coral
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??

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Seasons are going by too fast.

mild coyote
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Add siphon/50 shield per kill ltm to test it

crystal coral
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@cobalt zephyr Delete all ur messages

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U don't have to say that in every channel

bronze cliff
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Kermit: If you're looking for a duos partner, you should search in #looking-for-group-old
Also, legendary zombs are busy and usually won't have time to play with you; in addition, they may get annoyed if they are pinged too often

crystal coral
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@cobalt zephyr I help mods and admins ^-^

bronze cliff
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You posted a message and then deleted it.

quiet basalt
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good resource courtesy of urs truly

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now fully up to date

crystal coral
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A

rigid orchid
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lead you can steal weapon stats from official zr wiki

drifting vector
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nerf @quiet basalt's skill lmao

quiet basalt
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@rigid orchid the whole reason i made my sheet is because what is on the wiki is either incorrect or out of date, and still is.

rigid orchid
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oooooh got it

quiet basalt
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like jesus

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just take a look at the wiki

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its so baddd

bronze cliff
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I'm so nostalgic now

iron wedge
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does

crystal coral
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Yep

exotic stump
crystal coral
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No

nova pewter
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The first sesonšŸ˜‚

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It's relly sukšŸ™„

cobalt zephyr
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It only suck if you look at it from now. But it was thriving when it first came out. Different perspectives

crystal coral
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In case you devs thinking on removing "Smoke nade" please don't

onyx drum
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Plz bring back either season 1,2, or 3

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Or snowy lucky lake

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! rank

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!rank

heady gyro
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It doesn’t make sense to bring back snowy Lucky Lake, it’s June and it’s the Summer

cobalt zephyr
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lol

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exactly

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it was great tho

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maybe because its summer the lake can dry out and we get a new location for season 10?

dry fractal
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can you get rid of most trees

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whenever I hit a sniper shot that’s going to hit it shoots a tree

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Being a mobile player doesn’t he’ll

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Help*

cobalt zephyr
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bruh

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thats like asking trees out of pubg

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trees are meant for cover

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so if u hit it they clearly are doing their job

humble glacier
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Yea

cobalt zephyr
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Bots in gun game are so OP, they spawn kill

cobalt zephyr
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šŸ˜‚

dusty narwhal
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auto pick for pc plz

upbeat spoke
#

Nukes that do 500 dmg in s10 cry

twilit ravine
#

Duo anyone

blazing basalt
#

Put burger on ground and u eat for 20hp

leaden shuttle
#

lmao

cobalt zephyr
#

thats actually really acurate @quiet basalt

worthy cosmos
#

Was up my dudes

cobalt zephyr
#

@blazing basalt or just get apples from destroying trees with wich u can heal up 5-10 hp

humble glacier
#

No

forest spruce
#

buff the vss

plucky sorrel
#

šŸ–•šŸ¾ the vas

#

Vss*

#

Vault it

#

Buff snipers

#

Bolt action to be exact

rocky frigate
#

Bolts are strong already

#

Imagine 60-70 dmg and then switching to your AR for a quick finish

forest spruce
#

they are the best sniper and are also very threatening when in a 1 v 1

#

the difference from being at 100 health and 30 is pretty substantial

#

you can go from having the upper hand to running away from the fight

rocky frigate
#

Depends on the player

forest spruce
#

what is the best mythic weapon

elder turret
#

can i share links to my discord server here?

neat briar
#

Duos anyone

crystal coral
#

@elder turret If its a zr related link send it in #showcase

elder turret
#

Ok

crystal stratus
#

im thanos and the game is balanced like all things should be

grizzled plover
#

bruh

alpine cargo
#

lol

violet thicket
#

@crystal stratus welp

heady gyro
#

Nerf the amount of time the goo gun does damage on you

cobalt zephyr
#

@heady gyro that will make it less annoying but the give it a buff coz i dont think it is op

plucky sorrel
#

Vault the goo gun

crystal coral
#

Leave Goo Gun alone

gleaming jungle
#

Im pretty sure thats more of a good thing

cobalt zephyr
#

<@&432227393067810823> ban fummel mashine sorry for ping tho

graceful nicheBOT
#

dynoSuccess Fummel Maschine#3628 was muted

cobalt zephyr
#

ty

crimson brook
#

no

crimson kestrel
#

hola

#

hi

rare shale
#

lol k

wicked lynx
cobalt zephyr
#

auto pick for pc for balance

jolly moss
#

Remove trident, ik it's loved (I love it too), but it's way too OP.

stark mortar
#

ur right

crystal coral
#

They probably gonna replace trident next Season

stark mortar
#

hopefully

astral gust
#

Noo

cobalt zephyr
crystal coral
#

@vocal leaf Remove what u said

#

@naive drum

naive drum
#

ty

vocal leaf
#

fot you subscribe

crystal coral
#

Nop

ashen dome
#

oi ce qualche italiano

odd ivy
#

At least nerf the goo gun

crystal coral
#

Goo Gun is fine leave it alone

odd ivy
#

Nah

#

U tripping @crystal coral

#

U ever been spammed by it

vapid drum
#

ye

crystal coral
#

Ye but idc

#

Thats how zr works

jade cedar
#

We need a ranked mode

unique meadow
elder ginkgo
#

Who else never picks up a goo gun because it's trash

rocky frigate
#

@elder ginkgo goo Gun is Strong

crystal coral
#

Leave it alone

rocky frigate
#

Gift launcher tho

elder ginkgo
#

I honestly hate the goo gun

vocal leaf
opal wagon
#

Subsribe kingboymuhl youtube

gaunt saddle
#

no

crystal coral
#

No

strange wagon
#

buff freaking shotguns

cobalt zephyr
#

Which one?

rocky frigate
#

@strange wagon all shotguns r pretty strong rn, if you hit your shots

crystal coral
worldly ridge
#

nerf the googun

#

in my opinion its doing way to much damage and can be used by anyone

#

even those without skill

cobalt zephyr
#

like how it was on its first day? with single fire

#

bcs on that burst mode you dont have to aim

reef jetty
#

Shotguns are a bit weak unless u r camping in a building and suprise someone

#

Nerf sniper viewing area too op

#

Also, I prefer smooth at and smg

#

Ar

cobalt zephyr
#

@reef jetty actually shotguns are good as they are now. You just need to know how to use them

#

you mostly use them in a combination, not stand alone

reef jetty
#

U could throw impulse

cobalt zephyr
#

yeah

#

reverse impulse into an enemy and shotgun him

reef jetty
#

But it s a casual game

cobalt zephyr
#

eh, if yu would know how many tryhards are out there

#

and use shotguns with hell destructive combos

reef jetty
#

Ik there are loads of sweats

#

But they should just play fortnite not a hold mouse button game

#

Spray and pray

cobalt zephyr
#

@reef jetty uh excuse me? you cant compare Fortnite with this

#

this is NOT a Fortnite 2D bootleg

reef jetty
#

Fortnite is better tho @cobalt zephyr

#

It kind of is in the description

cobalt zephyr
#

@reef jetty "is better" everyone says that season 9 made fortnite worse

#

idk why

reef jetty
#

2d number 1 game inspired by fortnite and pub g

#

Fortnite is deader than mc

cobalt zephyr
#

inspired but unique in its own way

reef jetty
#

Il

#

Ik

cobalt zephyr
#

its and .io game after all

reef jetty
#

It s fun to do all

#

The ltm is slick

#

In zombs

cobalt zephyr
#

you cant compare it with big games liek fortnite or pubg

reef jetty
#

Do they count as wins

cobalt zephyr
#

no, but a lot of people requested to bring that in

reef jetty
#

What s the point of ltm

#

Then

cobalt zephyr
#

its just a fun mode

#

like they are not all the time there

reef jetty
#

Yea

cobalt zephyr
#

and the next ltm already gonna come the next 2 hours

reef jetty
#

But they should have a separate ltm win thing

#

Are burst weapons even goog

cobalt zephyr
#

burst weapons? yeah

#

they were actually pretty broken

reef jetty
#

Bloom

cobalt zephyr
#

like, there was something called double ak

#

you could get the double firerate by just swithcing to an other ak all the time

#

like double shotgun

#

pretty broken until it was fixed

reef jetty
#

How do u become green on server

cobalt zephyr
#

@reef jetty you just need to be very active

#

type and chat alot

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

reef jetty
#

How long

cobalt zephyr
#

idk

#

it just gives you it automatically after a period of time

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

sharp halo
#

i feel like snipers, when you hit a shot, that fight is automatically over.

cobalt zephyr
#

and still, links dont show the image/gif on this server

sharp halo
#

oof

#

ik

sly path
#

oiii

#

alguem fala portugues ???

#

your no speak inglish your speak portugues

dense vault
#

Add 50 health per kill

crystal coral
#

No

woeful axle
#

b

storm hull
#

😤goo fun gun spam in final circle?!?!?!?! At least nerf the range pls

#

*goo gun

crystal coral
#

Lmao

#

Goo gun is fine

#

@storm hull Just becuz u lost against a goo gun user doesn't mean that it needs to be buffed

storm hull
#

bruh have u ever been in a final circle where the r spamming the goo gun and there is no cover left but u cant see them so u can get a clear sniper shot. Since they r spamming one shot will eventually hit you and you cant do anything about it. u finally a a clear shot but u are so low they can easily AR spam until u die a slow and painful death. @crystal coral

plucky sorrel
#

Vault goo gun , period. Out the game

tawny mortar
#

then you kill them before you die from damage boxyPog

crystal coral
#

@storm hull I wont care. Just go to next round and play again

#

Goo gun seems fine. It got buffed so many times now. Leave it alone

storm hull
#

Wow someone had a bad day xD

crystal coral
#

???

hasty sorrel
#

nerf the poison gun(hope that's its name) it's so op specially when you hit all the shots

#

And ADD A COMMUNICATION system please

inland wave
#

^^^^

tulip hatch
#

Guys if u want battle pass and u joined before season 2 or have octopus skin DM me

upbeat spoke
#

nerf the minigun

#

its stupid yet its op

sand chasm
#

It’s the most isles gun in the game nerf it?

covert oak
#

have you tried shooting back at them @upbeat spoke

upbeat spoke
#

yes

sand chasm
#

Useless

supple frigate
#

then shoot more

upbeat spoke
#

when u have everything then u get sprayed by a minigun

#

yang smh

covert oak
#

if you have everything

#

you shouldn't die to a minigun

cobalt zephyr
#

smh spray and pray guns

sand chasm
#

P90so much better close range than mini gun

upbeat spoke
#

not if you're point blank from it :p

covert oak
#

the only time the minigun is OP is when you are shooting from off screen

sand chasm
#

Why should you be Point blank with some one?

covert oak
#

because the wide cone allows you to counter strafing

sand chasm
#

I think it needs a buff

cobalt zephyr
#

**lol no, the minigun was supposed to be one of the most trash weapons, then it got a buff, and a nerf again

#

and thats the minigun today

covert oak
#

the minigun doesnt need any tweaks

cobalt zephyr
#

yeah

covert oak
#

it can counter and it can be contered

#

countered**

#

and thats what a balanced weapon should be

feral dove
#

Lol

#

Just balance the Assault Scar
make it deal more damage

#

than normal

bronze cliff
feral dove
#

=/

steep spade
#

Now I would actually take the mg36 over assault scar

bronze cliff
#

They're both mythic and the MG36 is an airdrop weapon

#

So that's not a problem imo

upbeat spoke
#

Owo

bronze cliff
#

Actually, they never said it was a problem
I just made myself look kinda bad šŸ˜„

rigid orchid
#

@bronze cliff i think you meant nerfed

zenith osprey
#

how i buy discord costume?

#

in game,

unique vigil
#

omg nerf glock too OP

#

(I'm kidding šŸ˜‚)

cobalt zephyr
#

pls nerf goo gun that syka gun

bronze cliff
#

Ah yes, I did mean nerf
I always get those two mixed up

unique vigil
#

Lol.

round sonnet
#

yeah... yeah. i would love to see all sprays get nerfed into oblivion

#

perhaps just as a lmt

#

halve their damage - make this game show who truly has the skills, and who just holds LMB and hopes he'll hit some shots

sour perch
#

nerf the bots, because they have the power to:
a) force doors open and make them unable to be closed
b) track where you are and hunt you down
c) have infinite ammo. I just got game ended by a bot and it reloaded its glock 8 times which is too overpowered. when you pick glocks up you get 3 clips not 8

rigid orchid
#

@sour perch I agree with the first point, however the bots are quite easy to run from/dodge. If you're out of ammo, take your melee out and run till you find more. Or just take the loss and go into the next game.

sour perch
#

Easy to say when you're not knocked.....

#

and it keeps following you

#

all over the map

dusty shell
#

I would consider to have a mode where it’s just real players only but still have the regular

cobalt zephyr
#

wanna play?

mild coyote
#

Nerf the UMP's range

unique vigil
#

No @mild coyote

#

@rigid orchid I've tried that so many times and failed. I hate it when it's like I find a powerful gun and a bot comes out of nowhere and kills me with a Glock.

(Glock OP tho so makes sense)

rigid orchid
#

@unique vigil get gud šŸ˜‚

unique vigil
#

that's not exactly easy @rigid orchidšŸ˜‚

strong rose
#

Lol

unique vigil
cedar topaz
#

Remove Vector and MG36. They suck.

#

Or make it so vector is better than the p90

unique vigil
#

WHAT YOU SAY about MG36 @cedar topaz

#

The Vector does suck at Uzi range, definitely

#

But the MG36 IS NOT meant to be good in the way an XM8 is

#

It's meant to be good in the sense that it has ninety frickin bullets in its magazine to spray from afar

#

It is literally 3 gold M4s without reloading

#

15 damage per shot

#

And I for one, would take it over the Assault SCAR

cobalt zephyr
#

but it lacks in terms of spray and fire rate

unique vigil
#

kindathepointoftheextendedmagazine

#

The MG36 most likely isn't gonna be vaulted as there's a lotta people like me who know when to use it

#

And the low firing rate definitely means you need an extra inventory space for your faster AR-15 or SCAR (scar ain't much faster tho oof)

cobalt zephyr
#

yeah i mostly use the MG36 for supressive fire

#

applying pressure

unique vigil
#

and if it only lacks in fire rate you might as well want to remove the M4 and SCAR because they also aren't very fast @cobalt zephyr

#

And even so every weapon has its weakness

#

Just because it has one of those doesn't make it trash and needs to be vaulted

cobalt zephyr
#

i know, i never said the MG36 has to be vaulted

#

or ANY weapon has to be vaulted, i think the game is good as it is

unique vigil
#

Wait

#

OH

#

You aren't the person who said that

#

@cedar topaz

cobalt zephyr
#

happens

unique vigil
#

šŸ˜‚

cobalt zephyr
#

lmao

unique vigil
#

But the vector is VERY trash I must say unless you are closer than P90 range

#

The P90 should be the Airdrop SMG

bronze cliff
#

Is the P90 powerful enough to justify it being an airdrop weapon?

unique vigil
#

If they convert it to Mythic; maybe

#

It'd just be better than the Vector šŸ˜‚

bronze cliff
#

devs would have to add more damage or something

unique vigil
#

(in opinion anyway)

#

Yeah

tawny mortar
#

Technically vector shoots faster irl

#

But in the game the values are messed up

cobalt zephyr
#

yeah lmao devs pls fix

hollow token
#

sew

#

stew

#

I want stew.

rustic rune
#

Lol

#

How do I get the Discord skin in zombs royale

crystal coral
#

@rustic rune U need to buy discord nitro in discord for $10. Then connect ur discord to zr.

rustic rune
#

Oh

crystal coral
#

Then spin "The wheel of nitro" in zr

#

Something like that

rustic rune
#

Does it work on a tablet ?

crystal coral
#

No @rustic rune

#

Only pc

cobalt zephyr
#

I started playing on pc for the discord skin

#

The realised that I have to buy nitro

#

But then I thought pc was better so I stuck to playing on pc

#

šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤” šŸ˜‚

cobalt zephyr
#

soooo funnyyyy lol šŸ¤“

amber spindle
#

nerf p90 and ump

crystal coral
amber spindle
#

why not

#

in solos, its op lol

#

and im good btw

rigid orchid
#

- Tommy Gun: The Tommy Gun is supposed to be a submachine gun, but it fires at the speed of most ARs and doesn't deal a lot of damage. It's outclassed by ARs in Medium Range and it's slow firing speed makes it nearly useless against other SMGs in Close Range. This could be fixed by either increasing its damage to 12/13 or so, or by increasing its firing speed so it's comparable with the MP5.

#

thoughts?

amber spindle
torn adder
cobalt zephyr
rigid orchid
#

- Vector: The Vector is a weapon in desperate need of a buff. As a close range SMG, it stands no chance at medium range, but can get heavily outclassed by lots of other alternatives at close range; namely the P90. The sad part is, the P90 is more common than this Mythic Airdrop weapon. So how can it be fixed? If the bullets traveled farther with less of a decrease in damage, and the vector had pin point accuracy, it would do a better job as a "lasering" weapon at close-medium range, since there are already a lot of options for point-blank guns.

#

thoughts?

bronze cliff
#

That's an OK idea
Another idea is to replace the vector entirely with a new airdrop weapon

#

Or just remove it period

woven oasis
#

Honestly, just reduce drop-off. that itself is enough to make it outclass p90. plus, vector already does more damage than p90 (15 ptblank vs 13 ptblank) and has higher rof, which makes it viable for door control without shotguns or getting some chip damage through corners. the reduced drop-off makes the effective range of the vector bigger and hence allowing it to utilise these strengths at a more flexible scale.

#

the accuracy buff is something i have to disagree with, as it would make it far too powerful

boreal path
#

You should nerf the assault scar

crystal coral
#

It just got a nerf a few weeks ago ..

boreal path
#

But still in my opinion you can buff it as much as you want it's just kinda common that's all

blissful folio
#

What is common

boreal path
#

I usually find out at the end of a game there is 2 assault scars

#

Like 8/10 games

blissful folio
#

Its still not common

boreal path
#

It should be an airdrop weapon in my opinion and there should be 1 in a game but it is just my opinion you don't have to listen

unique vigil
#

Um I actually was able to get wins on my account before finding an Assault SCAR

#

Do you know how long that took? šŸ˜‚

#

(I'm joking about my trashness at this game)

buoyant nest
#

hello

#

šŸ˜‚

pulsar inlet
#

trashness isn't a word

cobalt zephyr
#

Pls beg

crystal coral
leaden granite
unique vigil
#

That is the point @pulsar inlet

pulsar inlet
#

what

#

what

#

what

unique vigil
#

When you said "trashness isn't a word" lol

pulsar inlet
#

Yeah

#

I was joking you patronizing idiot lol

unique vigil
#

So was I šŸ˜‚ @pulsar inlet

pulsar inlet
#

ok then shut up

unique vigil
#

Um wtf @pulsar inlet

pulsar inlet
#

?

unique vigil
#

I originally said that the fact trashiness isn't a word was the point of me saying it

#

That is it

#

I don't know how also joking with you means I have to shut up

obsidian bay
#

!rank

cobalt zephyr
#

How tot get nitro wheel

unique meadow
#

buy nitro in discord

gloomy schooner
#

hi

modest laurel
wicked arrow
#

Tridents should do self inflicted damage if you hit yourself with it OR should do less damage in general

upbeat spoke
#

or vaulted^

fringe dagger
#

@fervent sun

fossil kernel
#

*take out every mythic weapon then it would be balanced

plucky sorrel
#

@fossil kernel your just bad😐

rigid orchid
#

you're*

unique vigil
#

@wicked arrow The less damage thing, maybe. It shouldn't do a full 75 damage, maybe 70 would be good (for those who maxed out their HP on bandages)
Although I'm fine with the trident now

The self damage thing SUCKS

fossil kernel
#

bad people use mythics @plucky sorrel btw I have 3.5k wins in total

#

and im down to 1v1 any day

unique vigil
#

Then I'm like mega bad @fossil kernel

fossil kernel
#

umm nah im just pretty good

fallow current
#

lmao

#

@fossil kernel taking out all mythics is a bad idea tbh

dreamy nest
#

XD

#

yes

#

its a bad idea

wicked arrow
#

@unique vigil The thing is tho

#

All the other weapons that do "splash" damage will hurt you if you get in range of it

plucky sorrel
#

@fallow current exactly!

unique vigil
#

Oof true @wicked arrow

#

But the Trident only does 25 if not hit directly

wicked arrow
#

Still, if you're gonna spam it point blank (like a lot of people do) at least make it do self inflicted dmg

amber spindle
#

nerf p90 pls

#

or ump

#

in solos its op

bronze cliff
#

Countering the P90 can be difficult but isn't impossible

rare shale
#

k

cobalt zephyr
#

anyone wanna do duo?

crystal coral
#

@drifting cloak link here

neon tree
#

Incoming death (ban)

graceful nicheBOT
#

dynoSuccess karolis#5949 was muted

crystal coral
#

Mute*

grand hedge
#

Oof

crystal coral
#

no

rain sapphire
#

any one wanna play a duo?

crystal coral
unique vigil
#

@wicked arrow No

#

That will literally ruin the whole weapon

#

And you can't say it's an unfair advantage

#

As if so you might as well think the point of airdrops and the chance of finding Scoped M4s/Dragunovs/Suppressed AR152 unfair too

#

The trident is meant to give an advantage if you are brave enough to get to it

#

Not to ruin your own game by accidentally throwing it, especially for Mobile players

rigid orchid
#

^^ wholeheartedly agree

#

i mean finding the better weapons will only be up to luck if you don't actively seek them through killing people

#

the trident is even easier to obtain if you fight for it

unique vigil
#

yeah

wicked arrow
#

@unique vigil airdrops aren't hard to loot tho

#

Since more often than not, you will literally be the only person there to loot it

unique vigil
#

Ik

rigid orchid
#

@wicked arrow same story with trident

wicked arrow
#

Yea exactly

#

Hence why they shouldn't be that op

cobalt zephyr
#

Ok so I was in a. Game had a vector guy in a 1by1 house and he had a airdrop which had an at and I’m hitting him and I’m doing 9 damage but he’s doin 13-15 hmm at close range a ar does 15 but a vector 9 does NINE FIX UR GAME u can’t explain this

#

So basically a at is always better at close range

#

At

#

A R

#

Vector fires about idk 5-6 bullets per second?

#

and AR fires 6 per second.

#

One shreds the other hurts

#

So what’s the difference that’s the question

#

Vector & AR are two different guns.

#

They got their up and downs.

#

So a A R is better at close

#

šŸ¤”

#

Vector is good at up close range.

#

AR is decent with all ranges beside perhaps 20 tiles away.

#

Welp I didn’t work that time

#

Wat ok so basically A R S are better

unique vigil
#

@wicked arrow no. If it's only one person who has it (and not like, a normal findable weapon) it should be op

#

And then it's not even that OP

#

If you can dodge then you're mainly good

crystal coral
#

Seasons are going by too fast..

wicked arrow
#

@unique vigil It shouldn't be "op" as that stands for "Overpowered"

#

And it already is good enough seeing as it gives you infinite reverse impulses and does dmg at the same time

#

I don't see why it shouldn't to self inflicted damage if you hit yourself with it

unique vigil
#

I know

#

It should not do self inflicted damage because it will RUIN games for starters

#

There were times I attempted peek shots with it and it hit the building instead

#

building near me*

#

That would not have been good for me

#

@wicked arrow

#

And if you don't mind me asking how many wins do you have @wicked arrow?

wicked arrow
#

Idk around 80 I think

#

"It should not do self inflicted damage because it will RUIN games for starters"

crystal coral
#

??

wicked arrow
#

You're pretty much just saying "Don't nerf a weapon because it's a crutch for new players"

#

And yea

#
There were times I attempted peek shots with it and it hit the building instead
#

That was a mistake you did with the weapon

#

Would that have been an rpg, a grenade or any other splash damage weapon, you would of taken self inflicted damange

#

I fail to see why tridents should be any different

rigid orchid
#

@wicked arrow Because trident isn't a weapon to be spammed as an explosive like Thor's Hammer was, it was created to have a higher skill cap and be more useful by utilizing the weapon to make plays with other weapons. The "pulling mechanic" is supposed to work as a stronger impulse, hence it having a mythical rarity. I personally don't agree with its splash damage since it's supposed to be more of an infinite impulse, but just to use it as a substitute for an explosive weapon isn't what it was intended for and I don't think self-inflicted damage would be the right change to balance the weapon. I mean, sure, it's really powerful, but there's a reason that there is only one per game, and if you have the aggression to fight people for the weapon, you would have a bigger advantage over the rest of the people in your game and a higher chance of winning. I don't openly complain about how powerful the Trident is because I can get it around 90% of the time, so countering it isn't really a problem for me.

half grail
#

I hope there is a new weapon besides the trident

craggy osprey
#

I bet the trident wood be mor balanced if it only reversed and had no damage

unique vigil
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It'd just be a mythic reverse impulse then @craggy ospreyšŸ˜‚

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@wicked arrow The hit-box for the trident is also wider than an RPG rocket, so, no. It would not have blown me up in that same situation. I could have easily ran or impulsed out of a grenade's impact and a cactus bomb wouldn't really hurt me much since I was outside.

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@wicked arrow I am not saying "don't nerf it since it's a crutch for new players," I never even said that directly. I'm saying it's fine how it is due to the fact that there is only one per game, its prime purpose is to give an advantage, if you are lucky/skilled enough to get to it.
Self inflicted damage will literally degrade the Trident to where the RPG is, and really not many people use it.
If you think it's overpowered you might not have a strategy in avoiding it at point-blank range, like what I do is run away to strategize if I don't have enough HP and Shield to survive that specific weapon.

turbid arrow
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gg

rocky frigate
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I’m just hoping the trident gets vaulted next season

unique vigil
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Is it because you also think it's OP? (genuinely asking btw šŸ˜‚) @rocky frigate

upbeat spoke
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Just vault the trident

unique vigil
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I'm a bit tired of the trident complaints, and I want to see another weapon anyways soo same

rocky frigate
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Check out the reload, pretty much spam it and your opponent is right there

upbeat spoke
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If trident doesn’t get vaulted when s10 starts I’m never playing this game again

unique vigil
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And @rocky frigate you are literally one of the only good mobile player I've seen

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@rocky frigate yeah

rocky frigate
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It’s buggy on mobile too

unique vigil
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Very

upbeat spoke
rocky frigate
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Auto shoots for no reason

unique vigil
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Ikr

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Or when I try to reload and miss the button a bit it shoots

craggy osprey
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@unique vigil it’s infinite reverses plus it’s stronger

unique vigil
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Ik, that's why I said Mythic ya know

craggy osprey
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It’s infinite reverses

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U said a

unique vigil
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It's called a typo šŸ˜‘ @craggy osprey

craggy osprey
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šŸ˜

dusky flicker
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Ive noticed that pc players can see a little farther than mobile players. Ive got used to it since I versus pc players a lot obviously but they can see me when i simply can't see them

crystal coral
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I mean pc players have a big screen but mobile don't. So..

dusky flicker
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But you can still make the view bigger

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If thats how it worked than pc would be insanely better view

crystal coral
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:/

unique vigil
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@craggy osprey šŸ˜‚

fallow current
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mobile is kinda glitchy

cobalt zephyr
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Ikr

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Thats why i switched from mobile to PC

cobalt zephyr
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@cobalt zephyr same

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always lags/freeses

uncut oyster
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@unique vigil only good mobile player?

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U no wat

cobalt zephyr
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i thought it was my wifi till i went to pc

uncut oyster
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U wrong but right

unique vigil
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That I've seen, anyway @uncut oyster

uncut oyster
unique vigil
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Lol

uncut oyster
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Check out my channel if u want

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🤷

cobalt zephyr
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no hitches on pc and my phone can support other games

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so idk

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@uncut oyster name

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?

uncut oyster
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fsers4eva @cobalt zephyr

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Thx

cobalt zephyr
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didnt find

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k got it

uncut oyster
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šŸ‘Œ

cobalt zephyr
unique vigil
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@uncut oyster I'll check it out

uncut oyster
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Thx

cobalt zephyr
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hey if any one has problems running disord on pc pls feel free to ask me, i can fix it

copper wind
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My game on my smartphone is lagging af

steep abyss
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noob is pro player

crystal coral
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Ok

unique vigil
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@uncut oyster is it on your discord profile?

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Or I guess I could just check huh

crystal coral
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Seasons are going by too fast

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@dim condor Delete link

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@drifting cloak ^

graceful nicheBOT
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dynoSuccess tormat forum#8838 was muted

cloud hare
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who play

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helo

crystal coral
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Not here

craggy flare
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Add crystal clash back

supple frigate
craggy flare
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K

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Thx

wooden vapor
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Hew wants to 1v1 me and then add me

crystal coral
strange quiver
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s?top

near dew
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Lol people everywhere

cobalt void
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Give mobile players autofire

cobalt zephyr
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Mobil3 Nikk Nam3s

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PLAygROUND

crystal coral
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Lol

manic smelt
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join

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pls

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goal 20 members

blissful folio
stuck vapor
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I doubt they even check this stuff

heady gyro
manic smelt
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oh

cobalt zephyr
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@marsh hamlet Remove your links.

dusky flicker
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Idk what yall talking about i don't lag on mobile.

cobalt zephyr
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lol

crystal coral
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@marsh hamlet No links here please

graceful nicheBOT
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dynoSuccess XxxpãodequeijoxxX#0518 was muted

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dynoSuccess Swift#0701 was muted

vestal leaf
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hi

crystal coral
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@drifting cloak ^

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@naive drum log^

naive drum
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ty

crystal coral
cobalt zephyr
manic schooner
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hello

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anybody wanna play zombasroyal

cobalt zephyr
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me

manic schooner
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ok

jolly moss
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Unpopular opinion-vault the trident.

rocky frigate
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That’s extremely popular

charred spindle
manic smelt
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happy fourth of july

rancid iris
cobalt zephyr
crystal coral
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@fickle mantle Remove copy and pasta

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@drifting cloak ^

graceful nicheBOT
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dynoSuccess Vinci#1715 has been warned.

manic smelt
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happy fourth of july

wind stag
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happy fourth of july

warm hatch
grand dagger
indigo hare
storm hull
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The game is rly balanced ((except in endgame with trident) but u can avoid scenarios like that) well done

cobalt zephyr
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šŸŒ

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Shurikens are broken up close. Please nerf each one down to 10 dmg. I don't like losing a fight to a guy with 8 hp bc he walked in and hit me for 100 hp with shurikens. Seriously, nerf them.

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That’s your fault for getting too close.

limpid remnant
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and for not having a shotgun

cobalt zephyr
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xd

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@cobalt zephyr @limpid remnant Early game tho

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The range shurikens have anyway is pretty OP for 20 dmg

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10 dmg would be better

limpid remnant
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not really no because you get like whatever the amount is and they run out fast because of how fast you can shoot them. you would usually only do about 100 with range if you hit every

supple frigate
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yeah the achillies heel of the shuriken is the ammo

cobalt zephyr
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Yeah

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But still

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15 dmg then

supple frigate
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would be interesting to have a poll in #polls to see what people think

cobalt zephyr
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Wait, are alts banned?

supple frigate
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no

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unless ur an alt of a banned account