#game-balance
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i found 2 one time in blossom
Itโs rng ๐
congrats
Lol
you now uncommon
I got a rank lol
dual pistols op
tru
Just has itโs own advantages here and there

But yeah, itโs really cool gun!! Im against removing it๐
meh
as long as i dont run into it in the last circle im fine with it
infact it one time got me a win while i was lagging
Snipe em ๐
the thing that makes assumptions scar kinda balanced is that you can do dmg to ur self with it
im unknow zombs
True ๐
You should be able to login to discord on mobile.
Be able to respawn in solos
someone pls ban him
xd
Has anyone ever found an Assault Scar? I haven't...
maybe it was AWP... but I lost it(
fix your game
add building
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AT | Projii.#2292 has been warned.
make minigun spamming not as good
Your question doesn't make sense
I think you mean make the minigun a lil bit nerfed
please add building
Nah
Nah would ruined the game
give like 25 health + sheild when u get a kill cuz it sucks to have to fight abt 3 ppl at once
I feel you
@oblique brook I agree
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Remove bots and add siphon
The bots that lag at the doors are funny
Yeah lmao
Make bots either more obvious(like painting them robotic and silver), or make them more realistic(fix the A.I. path finding), I think at this point they're just offensive to the player. Like they're meant as a rude gesture to fool us. If dev wants them to fool us, then give us an option to just wait longer for a full real game.
not a bad suggestion not gonna lie
nerf the tritan
Yes remove bots and make us wait 1 hour for a match to start
lol
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The trident needs a nerf.
@tawny mortar thats messed up^
ps4user2#6714 has been warned.
Hey Iโm back
Hmm
what's the update?
just patches
There is a new plane flying around the map
it looks really nice
!rank
Nerf the trident, like I mean lower the damage by about 10. It is over powered sometimes.
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wtf
@rose lion said that if 1 more person pinged him he would ban everyone. so i am goin to ping @rose lion so many times
jk jk
ok
XM8 gun seems too op..
The one who made zombsroyale. He owns this server btw @cobalt zephyr
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Reduce UMP range
Increase reloading time on AWP, Dragunov, Crossbow, etc.
Also, balance out chances for different rarities of weapons.
Also also, make different rarities do different amounts of min-max dmg (while doing this, make sure that mythics don't way too much damage).
imbalance of loot atm
more ammo from ammo boxes plz
More guns less shields in crates and chests, sometimes when I go to a house, I might not even get a gun
Plz balance the weapons we have ingame, and not add new Op ones..
just bring back old zones xD
yes @stray edge
Dear devs.
I have an important suggestion to bring back the skill in ZombsRoyale. As you may know, there is tourneys in ZCC that involves 1v1's.
Now all the 1v1's are based on luck and camping. You can't have a fair fight.
You NEED to remove trident, silenced ar 15, scoped m4, assault scar and XM8 to make the game fair.
Along with that, a nerf of the pump and zombs will be competitive again. Thanks for reading.
Also, thanks for removing haunted, celestial and lucky lake.
-FRA | Guep aka zk11. - alpha / zcc player.
stop noob
XD
lol
thats prob why
u can get 1 per game
and tbh its good when u use it
but from another perspective then ye i guess ;/
yo
lol
Nerf minigun, atleast make the bullets shoot slower, and nerf the googun. It is way OP for people when their opponent is low
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Lower the range on the smgs jesus
ok so basically the bursts are just dumb
HI
hey
make trident not pull you through walls
but its annoying when you and your squad are healthier and winning but one of them gets pulled by house campers
@proud tapir The trident is essentially a unlimited reverse impulse weapon which does damage, If it didn't pull you in then it would be pointless to have since it does little damage alongside that its like having a reverse impulse would you tell the devs to make it were the reverse impulse nades wouldn't pull you into buildings then that would be a pointless item in the game no matter if a squad has the trident a sqaud can still carry reverse impulse nades.
@sage summit #looking-for-group-old
Duo??
Lol
I think it is unfair that pc players can change their keybinds so that they can switch faster aim better and other things. So I think mobile players should be able to switxh where their buttons are bcz say I want to double pump but I have to fire while Iโm moving and switching itโs almost impossible
I don't think the devs will pay attention to DMs, but I know they read through suggestions/game balancing suggestions occasionally
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vault the crossbow
nO
No ar is Broken
If u dont have a sniper & full health going against new ar is a no no
@static dirge i swear ur a youtuber
I don't think they are ever going to "vault" or remove any items of weapons in the game.
Also, good idea for mobile players to be able to move their UI around, and add a button for quick switch.
I dideny
Exactly @vestal fable thank u
I think it is unfair that pc players can change their keybinds so that they can switch faster aim better and other things. So I think mobile players should be able to switxh where their buttons are bcz say I want to double pump but I have to fire while Iโm moving and switching itโs almost impossible
See
we also need aim sensitivity
unless you get like 5 to 10 health or something.
I am pretty iffy on the aim sensitivity. I have been a veteran player of ZombsRoyale, playing when it first came out until now. I am decent at aiming on mobile, but aim sensitivity would be kind of pointless based on the fact that the sensitivity is based around how fast you can move you finger or thumb.
mynamejefffff
@vestal fable I want sipho too
Siphon only if it gives 5 or 10, and only for health,
or else it would be too op because of all the people that run around aimlessly with no health.
there bots @vestal fable
kthx
Siphon would engage alot of people to fight
can people stop asking for siphon
I don't think it's a good idea for this game
its honestly fine the way it is
maybe in an LTM
don't nerf vss
Don't nerf vss
Wdym
They have to line up the shot and ensure all 8 bullets hit to guarantee a kill
And even so why you standing still and letting them snipe you lol
(No offense or nothing)
Yeah
Vss sucks lol
vss broken
and there is something called "claw" for mobile players
so they can switch faster
Hi
@halcyon silo How is the VSS OP? It's really bad, only does 10 or so damage a shot and has a small mag. good range though.
no it trash
Bring celestial clouds back
The xbow is very hard to aim for mobile players bcz as soon as u move your aim it shoots can u plz change it to like a bolt or something
nerf xbow it toke 90 shield one hit
@compact gust if u use it right it can easily outplay snipers in the open
@cerulean abyss so does grenades
That was because he was farther away from you. Snipes due farther damage when the player shooting the sniper is farther away from you.
@vapid harness not a lot of people actually find it, and it is a burst weapon so it can be easier to dodge or miss your shots
Scar Accuracy Is so bad it should get better
@cobalt zephyr #looking-for-group-old
@outer cobalt why are you spamming bad words in all channels
What bad words Dyno doesn't say that they are bad
owo
nerf rubber gun
Should make he UMP a airdrop weapon it does so much damage
Why do u ppl keep nagging like crybabies over and over because of OP guns. Use it as an advantage. Whatever gun u find OP then keep on using it wtf is wrong with u ppl.
Jeez ur braindead
That couldโve been said with a better language ๐
But yeah, the game has to have itโs balanced, not like every player has the gun
TRASH
uno reverse card no u
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@rose lion Fix this please In the new area called Cyber City, There are these very small houses some have two doors but always one of the doors doesn't work, Radical Reef also has a problem, if you hover over any house with your parachute even if the house is closed you will go through the ceiling and get inside the house without using any of the doors that gives you a huge advantage, Please do something about these bugs I always die from people abusing them and it isn't fun...
ok
Or u can use big brain and abuse it
Rofl
Haven't seen anyone complain about the house glitch in blossom
sup guys
bro calm down
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I havenโt played this game in a while and what happened to the vss
lol ikr
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Remove ump
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@drifting cloak ^
BlackFire911#3547 has been warned.
@buoyant flume
@everyone ban me
@cobalt zephyr
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Bring back the old VSS, this one is useless
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when i downloaded zombs on discord and it tyr to click on it, it says no installation available.
pls help
Add me zombsroyale id- DawidoXX#3657
@cobalt zephyr this is not the place to find players go to #looking-for-group-old
@rose lion seasons used to have 15 gems for the ones with the free pass but this one has only 12. Plz do something Yang we need these 3 gems.
Yeah the vss struggles to kill
Like when they're on white health it takes so long to kill them
U pretty much have to chase them
Also nerf ump
@scarlet bone vault flamethrower
Would it be a good idea to make the Rubber Gun more findable?
Nerf AR-15
Have you guys not seen the unbalanced
Play a real game to see what wrong
Instead of playing with bots
spraying with ar's in general is just too strong
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@clever jacinth not everyone gets to play when real players are playing
hi
AR-15 needs a nerf along with the P90
I will post this every day
Till it happens
And make grenades launch further on mobile
And remove bots
It is so annoying when to pop out of nowhere and do an unnecessary 30 damage to you
They literally come one after one
And mostly when your against AN ACTUAL PLAYER
@cobalt zephyryBesT
nerf shurikins
no nerf catcus bbombs
Buff pistols
ew no
Yes
We need balance
Too much AR
Hunting rifle is useless. Maybe not reduce their damage when close..?
no just get better at the game
Wow cool stuff
@cerulean abyss 1v1 me if u think ur so good....
U dont understand the point. I was not talking about buffing the pistol to get better. Whats the point of adding guns who are useless. Better focus on guns we have more like adding new op ones..
Also known as game balance
hi
In order to balance the game a little
We need to vault the assault scar
It's so annoying to fight against and u have almost no chance of survival
Just git Gud scrub
^
k
Nerf P90 and AR-15 change shotgun controls on mobile because you have no time to aim
@cobalt zephyr try using dynamic joysticks
Ok
@bold raven Shut your mouth
I was not talking to u, Im not trying to be good(Im already good enough). I was just trying to explain my point of view....
Well someone is mad
who wont to run dous
Nerf P90
And make shotgun controls easier
Why tf would tgey nerf a weapon that has so small range and 5 damage
THINK
@pearl karma Please remove the invite now.
If its zr related send it in #looking-for-group-old
If not send it in #off-topic
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@pearl karma 1 every 1 hour
dominickillswich#2416 has been warned.
Buff hunting rifles
Like make epic and legendary hunting rifles
Also buff tactical shotguns
not all weapons are ment to be prime weapons of choice
There has to be a system that rewards you for spending more time looting
and punishes you for not looting enough, or just counting on fewer chests early game
Hunting rifle, gas grenades, pistols, etc are not ment to be the end game load-out
more of a transitional weapon build-up
@ember widget

There isn't a Mythic shotgun in the game. Maybe change that?
@unique vigil there were but they would be OP if u were a good player
Yeah
so thats why they arent around anymore
unless your in mystery mode where u might get lucky and find one @unique vigil
ya yeet
Oh there's a Mythic in Mystery Mode?
@coarse raft uhhh, kiddo I wasnโt talking to you I was clearly talking to Sligo.
But hey, maybe your so self conscious about your skill I was onto something about your skill level
bot
ohhh
I hate u devs
I hate u
No one asked for new guns yet u still added them
I could go one with every single issue this game has
Nerf overused guns and decrease ar spawn-rate
Nerf everything that starts with a
Lol
@drifting cloak what do u mean gas grenades
@bold raven If it wasnt to be why you keep calling me bot then. Seems like someone like to drag people down. But that's ok as far Im not one of them. Last time I write to you, and have a great day
@coarse raft mOrAL hIgH gROuND bTW
why are people posting suggestions here and not #suggestions
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Use Code Xotic#7280 was muted
!level
Yeeet
@unique vigil technically thor's hammer and the trident are variations of a mythic shotgun
Oh true
Never saw thor hammer
why in this game a lot of donat!?!?
lol
Trident is awesome ๐ฑ ๐ฑ ๐ฑ
How is that related to game-balance?
IN a way. ๐ค
Do you say that when someone pulls you in with it?
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then i say: There is too much good in this world, and the trident balances it
how is everyone
Im now A penguin shuriken
i have a new paint of coat
Shivers
Wrong chat
lmao
no me
Me game lag
@cobalt zephyr
- Shurikens are underrated and are rare
- P90 is annoying but u will be fine
- And ARs are meant for range
okay this is gonna be toxic but
your profile pic sucks too
srry but i had to do it, also i removed my suggestion cause no one agreed with me but its all cool
@cobalt zephyr yeah, Its for a role in a ZR server
but Says the guy whos Profile picture is a letter ๐
ok go fly a kite, i already blocked u so idc
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Lol
Or same attack speed.
???
.
huh?
kkk
Tripleonion#5241 was muted
WEapon skins
my god
plz
what
yeah
yeah
bannanas
oh hell yeah
lole
wtf
sorry my friend
bananas
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are my 2nd favorite fruit
nice
water melon 1
rewrwre
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Don't get probation like I did for that
mmmmmmm
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@compact crater ?
@fallow current chill man its just meme cat being the good dude doesnt give admins the urge to put u mod
Calm down its only a message
Daaaamn
TX | Poki#9066 was muted
@cobalt zephyr you havenโt been here much huh?
Do I need to make on for meme cat now ?
copy pasta is considered spam, and it is because it pushes all the messages up so we canโt see them. This is #game-balance and I donโt think it is a great idea to spam. The devs canโt read any of the messages put in.
@fallow current and u dont have to take it serious
Also i have been here only for 4 months
So ye i wasnt much here
if it isnโt serious, then donโt ping me

pls take off the reverse on the trident, its way too op
Or maybe nerf the pull
yea
Try to have a automatic balance stats matchmaking ?
you can use discord's voice channels to communicate
Nerf goo gun? (like how long the poison lasts)
Buff trident, needs more damage
no it doesnโt
@wild rock Delete here and please move to #looking-for-group-old
fn40gl range is stupidly far
you should nerf UZI
fix the guns
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maybe nerf p90? it's like mini version of gartling gun
Im thinking maybe if we buffed shotguns, there would be more use. as of right now, you could probably kiss a player in the range you need to be able to do decent damage. so maybe bring a nerf to damage, and a buff to spread.
also, try and fix the glitch where you can pull people into/out of houses with reverse impulses and tridents.
Nurf Shelly
Ump too good
Lower damage
I was fighting a noob I had a purple smg not the uzi
And he killed me
Would be better if pc players also got chests every 6 hours
Kind of unfair on pc players
make the goo-gum slower while firing
Goo gun looks fine
or make the poison from the goo gun last shorter
Pc vs mobile is unfair
Pc see more
Pc can see with a bolt action sniper as much as mobile with awp
can someone play?
@polar hare #looking-for-group-old
A Rare deagle give u 40 damage, and a Epic give u 41 Damage..... a GREAT difference.
i hope what you just said is a joke
@jolly moss it would be 2 OP if they put the damage at 45 or 50
no i mean that the actual damage a Epic and rare deagle give
it should be at least 25 damage on rare deagle, and maybe 40 or 35 damage on Epic. then we see a difference
Eh
hi
i need help
k
@vapid thunder that is a feature, its not a glitch
Raise Tommy Gun's fire rate to the same as the Assault SCAR
With the damage dropoff and the firing speed it has, it gets absolutely obliterated by UMP at a similar range
uhhhhhhhhhhhh
You are amiright
@dry fractal the ump got nerfed already
And plus ofc u will lose the ump is better than regular smgs
Hi
#questions why cant i get my gems
...
i bought them
Nerf p90
Nerf p90
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stop spamming
What u gonna do
king nothin just spam then
Good
lol
Why is this game a 100 player battle royale it doesnt have to copy other battle royale but thats besides the point it should be less then 100 because the map is so small so theres too many 3-5 party also too many people could land in one small place lol
And this is why we cant have nice things
dude your a nub ok so just stop
Cough sorry i smelled some toxic
and why there is 3rd- 7th parties is cause it makes the game fun and intense kk?
Bro u need to chill u act like u made the game XD
so what
LOL
Lol your funny
no im seriouse
When did i say a hate dis game
serious
Ha lol 10
Who said the game is not fun
um u
U woulda thought
just stop
I got no time for dis how about you play zombs its fun rite k bye
i do play
stupid
bye
Nobody:
Toxic kid who canโt play the game good: NERF (currently ok weapon)
Can you make the map bigger please

ye
How you rank up?
@wraith vine send messages and you'll get XP
but only one message per minute counts so don't spam

i rank up
ew
no it's k pop ew
well bye
Pls like nerf spam weapons Pros arent happy and will quit
@torpid knot
No guns are needed to get nerfed
Mostly everyone holds a spam weapon
It matters on your ability to play the game
I dont hold a spam weapon and still win 40% of my games without using a spam weapon. Ive talked to countless leaderboards players and they were considering quitting after the meta was broken and A Vector when it does 4 damage is already op enough @scarlet pebble
Pc or moblie?
PC
The only weapon I truly hate is the minigun. If i had to guess, i'd say it shoots 7 rounds a second, with a 200 ammo capacity it can out spray anyone, it requires no aiming skill since the spray is 2-3 times the length of your character, and it mows down trees and any sort of cover you try to hide behind. It is especially annoying and impossible to counter in the final circle, with minimum moving space the minigun destroys all cover and soon you. The damage is also pretty high, considering it shoots much faster than a vector, it normally does around 7-8 damage, so even if you had a full 200 health, 24-26 quick minigun shots would kill you.
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@thin grotto I feel you man but heres a good counter to it any explosives you have throw it at the mini-gun user that way heโll either die or forced to run
I wonder why Minigun isn't used more in competitive scene ๐ค
Ikr
Itโs kinda risky as it makes you extremely slow and that makes you an easy target for snipers
But it could be useful
@thin grotto it has it's own disadvantages like it's accuracy and png range
Minigun could surely use a nerf, like longer reload and less dmg from far away
U could spray down a whole squad with it
haj
^
make the bolt action sniper a little better and could you make the assault scar more common
Buff Minigun, increase damage and fire rate
Add cooldown
||end game spolier thanos drank beer||
Buff the vector
For?
i just got killed by a grenade
lol
Bots drop heals
@cobalt zephyr I agree
Nerf goo gun (like how long the poison lasts)
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Duos anyone??
#looking-for-group-old @glass oak
guys i just got killed by a p2000 its like literally too overpowered it needs to be vaulted or removed
No plz that's my main gun in 1v1s
Lol i got an 18 kill solo squad only using the leg p90
make the green -> gold scar actually different from m4 instead of being just worse
give less falloff to uzi
id rather grab a green p2000 than a green uzi or scar lol
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p2000 is broken
I feel like the crosshair is actually lined up
So basically grab a laser, a gun, a rocket, a drumgun, minigun with no cooldown, a bolt; and thats the p2000
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@fossil hinge Please remove the link no links allowed here
nerf ars range,its impossible to play whit everyone spraying at sniper range whitout any way to build. could also be a temporary nerf, staying until the building system is impleneted(the nerf would stay in normal gamemodes but not in gamemodes whit bulding)
@cobalt zephyr when's building coming?
wanna play
no lol
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How about removing every non supply drop mythic AR?
@worldly ridge its still in development,some got to try it out and yoy and find some vits on youtube.
hi
@Yang please bring a Campaign mode where you are put with players your level
nerf mp5
if it doesnt get nerfed
il make a montage of me abusing it
so it gets nerfed
ye
How is the g word bad wtf
@dusty otter why would you make a montage of abusing a weapon
Whoo speak for russian
Hey
Hey, come team up with me in Zombs Royale and let's win some Battle Royale! You can download it here for iOS or Android: https://zombsroyale.io/mobile/download?r=vovasah%232101
Hi i think weapon race needs balance for spawning players right where you are, it is annoying when they have shotguns.
@median herald they should give you invincibility
Communism oooooooh
...
@mild coyote yup something like that
nerf shurikans
nerf goo gun!
definitely do not nerf shurikens
Nobody:
Everyone Here: This gun does damage and I died to it please nerf or else
PC has a bigger sight of view than mobile please fix it and make bots drop heals because a bot with an ar can do damage
@rose lion @tidal sage
lmao
@fast fractal why r u reposting the same comment from earlier....
wut
My Balancing Thoughts
- Buff automatic pistol damage
- Vault useless items
1. Shurikens the do no damage
2. Minigun
3. Flamethrower
4. Cactus bomb
- Add
Flash grenade - stuns for 1 second
the spread makes them useless compare the damage of any other legendary weapon
you're supposed to use them up close
idc about minigun and flamethrower
cactus bomb is good
auto pistol doesn't need a buff it doesn't need to be good
i mean there should be at least 2 decent pistols
cactus i want vaulted because I don't think it adds to gameplay
lol its a pain in the ass
Yeah
Because u can deal damage to urself
Increase mobile player's fov
not all weapons are supposed to be useful
Man cactus bombs come in clutch sometimes
Thats what fresh likes to use

nice
Fix it when you kill someone their bullet keeps going and you both die
It's so stupid. smh
yo anyone wanna duo
@fast fractal on your vaulting ideas, the minigun is a very solid weapon, and so are all of the other weapons on that list. You just aren't good with them.
tHaT wAs nOt mEaNt tO bE aN iNsUlT
like actually tho, you also have to be pretty close range for some to work for you
Flamethrower
Is useless lol
Any shotgun is much better
If you strafe left to right mini gun is bad
@fast fractal is op if used with a grapple
grapple towards your opponent and you know
do a thing
and kill them
Impulse shotgun is better
trident shotgun is better
Trindent them into the opposite sde of a house and then throw a nade, they have no way of dodging it
I think we should ban lag. Do you?
I wish
Lmao
You do speek french
Count 500/7749aais8b
EquAlity for mobile players or be able to have nicknames for free likened players
Vertex vert or remove please
Nerf tridentโs reverse impulse range
Get rid of trident pls add third hammer back
I personally think that there should be a mythic deagle that does70 damage becuz im the onlt one that uses it
@cobalt zephyr a lot of players use it if they have good enough aim
70 damage is way too OP
ya
deagle is too mobile to have high damage
deagle is okay
@drifting cloak ^
I like how the game is right now
Most weapons balanced, or at least decent
@coarse orbit The hammer did an insane ammount of damage, and was too OP in squad gamemodes. The trident is a little more balanced in my opinio
yeah iwas joking they both bad
i dont like the trident crossbow meta
but i think the crossbow is super balanced i luv it โค
lloleee
Old days
Deagle should have 54 damages but reduce its magazine from 7 to 5!
i liike the scar xdd
or perhaps to make the AR-15 less viable
Or make the scarโs bullet speed a lot faster(not the shooting rate, bullets just go a lot faster) and the accuracy more insane
Itโll be a satisfying gun
WEll in My opinion the SCAR is designed for accuracy, perhaps bullet should travel further too ? not extremely far but a 3-4 extra tiles
your idea is good too

@supple frigate it would fit in too. Cause assault scar has a 26 range where like everything else has a 23 range. It would make sense to bump the other scars to 26 as well
yessir
I agree
Because that would slightly balance out the scars as the assault scar would become less powered
please remove the goo gun
nop
@shrewd hill nerth the goo gun
Nerf the minigun
@worldly ridge duos?
pls nerf goo gun or remove it
^ Learn not to get smacked by it
Kto z Polski?
@quiet basalt What is that spreadsheet about?
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@supple frigate
ump is op
same with goo gun
and make miniguns load up time slower and make it do 5 damage
please make the season 2 days longer
pleaseeeeeee
or 1 day pretty please with a cherry on top
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< Preface >
# I believe that the end goal of buffs and nerfs is not balance, but to create a game that is fun to play. Nobody remembers your game for being balanced, they remember it for being fun. My way to achieve this is to nerf extremely standout overpowered weapons and buff underperformers. This adds weapon diversity and in turn makes room for new strategies. The current meta in pro play is pretty stale, and these changes hope to address that as well as making the game more enjoyable for casual players by introducing new strategies and increasing the viability of more playstyles. This is why I consider the Trident to be an excellent addition to the game as it incentivises players to play skillfully, and it introduces a wealth of new possibilities
< Balance Suggestions >
[Change/Buff Hunting Rifle](Hunting Rifle has the potential to be a strong weapon, but its small magazine and fairly low damage output has it being outclassed by Bolt-type snipers or even deagle, with the larger mag and incredible projectile speed. Hunting Rifle should fit the niche of a higher risk Semi-Auto Sniper, with a higher damage output in a shorter amount of time. Semi-Auto, while having slower projectile speed and fire rate, has a range of 30 compared to the Hunting Rifle's 26, and the shots straight up deal more damage. Not to mention the larger magazine of 6 compared to the Hunting Rifle's 3. Semi-Auto does 26-40 dmg at Epic and 26-44 at Legendary. Hunting Rifle does 6-30 damage at Common and 6-32 damage at Uncommon. It makes no sense for Hunting Rifle to have a smaller magazine and less range and not deal more damage than Semi-Auto. I suggest a simple damage buff to 6-40 at Common and 6-45 at Uncommon, while also nerfing reload to 1.25 seconds per bullet. This is an overall buff and would turn the Hunting Rifle into a more skill based weapon that demands the user aim well to hit their shots, but also must get a bit closer and will be punished if missing. But when used correctly, it will be strong. In addition, change the Common and Uncommon to be Epic and Legendary, just to match the Semi-Auto.)
[Buff Smoke Grenades](Smoke Grenades work well in niche situations but for the most part aren't worth the inventory slot and are only used for storming a building with people holed up inside or buying a small amount of time to heal after a fight. For the most part, any moderately skilled player will use the thrown smoke grenades to their advantage and can track you well in them, predicting your movement, rendering them useless and turning the fight against you. They give the same advantage to the team on the defensive as they do to the party on the offensive. This combined with their fairly short duration makes them criminally underutilized. I like the Smoke Grenades, I really do, but they are simply too weak and you put yourself in a precarious position by using them. I suggest making the thrower and their party at least slightly visible in smoke grenades only to themselves for the duration of the smoke, or perhaps they fade in and out of view very briefly every 0.75 seconds or so and are visible to everyone. This would ensure using them actually makes an impact on the fight while not making it immune to any counterplay. Perhaps in combination with this, also extend the duration of the smoke by a few seconds, or even maybe introducing a mechanic where exiting and reentering the smoke extends its duration by half a second, up to three times. This would encourage clever play and would make things much more exciting. All of these potential changes in some combination could really allow Smoke Grenade to reach its full potential.)
[Buff VSS](It is weak with its low damage, least extra sight of any sniper, lowest range of any sniper, and reload comparable to that of the Semi-Auto. Turn VSS into a strong closer range weapon and it now has a role in a loadout. 12 damage at Rare and 14 damage at Legendary is insanely low, despite the high fire rate. It is still difficult to deal any sort of moderate amount of damage with the VSS. I suggest lowering the range to 15 tiles, a little less than the Tactical Shotgun, but buffing the damage by 7 points at all rarities. This would make VSS a strong tool to kite enemies away and zone them off you. Powerful at close range forcing opponents to play from a distance. The short mag makes sure it isn't too oppressive and the 1.2 second reload also helps. These changes along with the Hunting Rifle changes would give both of these snipers a unique role and lend the game more weapon variety and overall make games more interesting.)
[Buff Assault Shotgun](The Pump and Tactical Shotguns are currently the only viable shotguns right now. Pump for the high damage, good magazine, and projectile speed that scales with rarity, and Tactical for encouraging a smarter playstyle with more peeks, as well as still having decent damage to fight as well as a fast reload. Assault Shotgun barely outclasses Tactical in damage, and the projectile speed is nice, but the damage drop-off completely kills it in the only area it excels in. It has high projectile speed and a range one tile more than the pump, but the drop-off makes it so spamming a tactical at long range is more effective. I propose reducing the effects of damage drop off on the Assault Shotgun by 50% and increasing the range to 14 tiles as well as increasing the damage per bullet by about 2. The range is still 2.5 less than tactical, but allowing it to become more effective at chasing down enemies. The extra 18 damage assuming all bullets hit would help it become more in line in power to the other shotguns. )
[Buff SCARs](Currently, the SCAR is outshined by the M4โs higher damage, AR-15โs higher dps and knockback, and the AKโs pure damage. The SCAR is supposed to have a niche of being high accuracy to hit more shots, but currently it is outshined by every other AR. It would make sense to buff the range on the SCAR to give it more viability. Increase the range of all SCARs to 26, same as the Assault SCAR, and now they have a bit of a niche to fill. Sacrifice a bit of damage for higher accuracy and more range. Now the trade off is worth it.)
[Buff Snowballs](I know, this seems a bit out of left field, but hear me out. Snowballs have a lot of potential to be another high risk high reward weapon that can set up combos or pick out a target from a squad. But the low damage holds it back. Now I understand that since this weapon can be found from destroying trees, it cannot be too strong, but perhaps increasing the damage to 15 would give it the little boost it needs. One person in a squad who lands a couple snowballs can make select opponents easy targets for snipers. Snowball + sniper or even something like grenades would be a good combo but you have to set it up by landing a snowball shot and those are fairly hard to land. Miss one and you are a sitting duck. Hitting someone with a snowball through an open door makes it so they cannot dodge a reverse impulse pulling them out of the house. The snowball could open up so many possibilities, but it needs to have a bit of power added to it. Perhaps also increasing the slow by 10% in combination with with the small damage buff could achieve this.)
[Adjust/Buff Shurikens](Shurikens arenโt particularly useful outside of harassing an opponent outside a window but the awkward spread and pattern makes it difficult to get decent damage in besides just straight up camping and waiting for someone to approach. Not to mention you only get 6 bursts. I want to turn the shurikens into a viable option for holding down a strategic area, such as a building in between an enemy team and an airdrop. I propose increasing the projectile speed by 20% as well as reducing the spread by 15-20%. Perhaps also buffing stack to 35, This would make it effective at establishing zones of control for a squad and would make it more viable. Overall, the game could definitely use more weapon variety. Keep the game accessible, but raise the skill cap, add new things to play around. With these changes, Shurikens will get a much-needed boost to power. Iโd also like if the drop rate was buffed significantly. The limited uses of it prevents it from becoming just another Thor Hammer or Rubber Gun where teams spam it. These changes would both increase its power in the early game and encourage smart, aware play with it. Tactical play. Shurikens are extremely underused.)
# I will be refining and expanding this list over time, leave a thumbs up on this message if you would like to see these changes implemented, dm me with any questions or with suggestions
I liked the part when you talked
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I like how u included colors
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@quiet basalt How is that not 2000 words??!!!
ohh idk multiple msgs
absolute intellectual
Those changes would be nice
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@quiet basalt I agree with that stuff but if every bad weapon was buffed, then it wouldn't be fun because everyone would die as soon as a zcc member got their hand ...basically on anything
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@tawny mortar Maybe lead wants these bad weapons to be buffed and then more crappy weapons to fill in for that
There are already too many op weapons, too many cooks spoil the broth
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