#game-balance
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no lol
the range and fire rate make it not completely useless
Literally like 2-3 bullets hit if you’re tryna use it’s range as an advantage
yes but is 9 damage evey time
Ye
and close up is bad too
compared to a pump
ok ok @supple frigate i will go a a game use tac and come back
you to try it
early game it's decent
the tac is like another sukura
yaaa
it ok in start game but no is a SHOTGUN
shotguns make you think twice the tac does not xD
Heavy shotgun was 'good' before shotgun buff
it had faster projectile speed in an accurate spread
that's what it was known for
People need to spend money on this game.
yall wanna play
there is a fair amount of people with the battle pass actually
nerf vss 2 or 3 points every rarity. it would be a slowly-firing assault rifle with less capacity, but that important bonus of really fast bullet travel time and extra FOV
VSS sucks on mobile though
make it so the snipers can hold plz
on mobile
the tac is trash plz buff damage and the heavy is wat again? the white shotgun
Ummm
i zombs GOD
@feral goblet no prove lmao
Nerf Minigun, Flamethrower and the new AR15
@cobalt zephyr i agree a little bit
i like the AR15 when i have it
#nerfthemingun flamethrower is ok too
flamethrowe and mingun is balanced imo rn since they cant do much in far range
nnonono
hmmm what is ur opinion
@dim gull the mini is not rlly ok far away its ok but close up is too good i had 150 hp and i pumped a guy and switch to my ar and sprayed him and he still killed me
pump to ar ur are ded
ooko
by loading up zombs
@dim gull
2-3 weeks?!?!?!?
ye
improvement no offense
The Tac is fine
tac is fine
😠
like an smg
WHAT
but no as a shotty
tac is doo doo
is does 20 damage close up
ok fine lets play duos
rrgit
you do tac only i do pump only
whoever gets most kills
But the Assault Shotgun needs a farther spread
Hoo boy we disagree
is looked better
ye but its still bad
and its a shotgun
in any game you play and you get shot in the head with a shotgun you will most likely lose a lot of heath or die.
its in fortnite,h1z1,pupg,roblox,cod,etc
Yeah tru
The tac has a higher rate of fire and spread, it serves a different purpose than the pump
The Pump is the best tho
ik but the tac should be able to compete with the pump a title bit
The pump is better for close range, the tac is better for mid range
back here @leaden drift
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i mean i am back
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i think the reason why no one actually meta with tact is because of it's low damage
but in a house it's actually kinda useful, like an assault shotty
but people rather use ARs
so ... buff
ye
Tact at close range does about. 50 damage
they should buff vss
Can bots not keep doors always open?
I actually think the VSS is too good sometimes
bruh, VSS doesn't need a buff
if you can aim well you can destroy people from a far range
I think the Ar is a little TOO weak, buff?
@hazy fulcrum the ar is ok
Maybe...
VSS sucks
vss is good if you know how to use it
decrease the health of knocked people
No
Bruh
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Is it just me? Or the shotguns in Crystal Clash needs a buff
rpg is so annoying
yea
never had that happen
Well it did to me
AWP needs slight nerf
Kk
shotgun class is absolutely useless in crystal clash
dominated by full auto weapons
i might've gotten 30 kills as shotgunner?
@humble glacier you will regret
it is
ikr @quasi bough
it takes like 5 secs to kill somebody
the mythical need a nerf
mythical what
mythicals *
the little pewy suppresses gun that has red stripes on it
yeah, that needs an actual nerf
you can shootup an entire squad and lose 50 shield
prolly
googoo gun = doodoo lmfao
the shotguns need a buff
their spread is trash
you don’t go irl and see a shotgun fire 180 degrees do you?
no
it's supposed to be CLOSE COMBAT
not range
if u like range shottys use tactical shotty
it shoots literally 180
Nerf the suppressed ar
Does 13 damage per hit with extreme knockback will shread everyone if there is no buildings
Its fine
13 damage per hit is nothing
Mythic AK does 19-20 dmg per hit
and with a double AK you can fire it automatically with double the mag
So the new ar I know I'm late but how is it.
Not too op is it?
Nice
Interesting
(Btw I passed you on mee6 while you were gone )
nooooo
Im in 4th
poo
I passed Noobhammer and Pigpower too
Yes
So do they still at least do around 100 on full shot
Yes
good
Uh well thats pretty much all I wanted to know I guess
Thanks for the update
ok
I miss the 120 pump damage
sighhh we all will my friend
looking for one team
I'll join
ok MontBG#4640
Ok
Pump was only good if you knew how to use it
Sent @cobalt zephyr
ok
It's not just Pumps were good, the other shotguns were bad
Tac shotgun is so weak, and the Heavy shotgun's bullet speed was it's main advantage before the shotgun buff
Pump was good for catching people off guard when you/they open a door
It's okay now, but it kind of weakens the shotgun meta
But noobs will be noobs and spam the minigun/P90 indoors
Why can't you walk over Frag Grenades? You kick it with you to guarantee 90 damage.
Playing against PC on mobile in the new game mode is FUN. having any enemy use the AR and kill me in 7 hits while I have to scramble to Hit 15 P90 shots or 2 Delayed shots (Sniper, Rocket), or 5+ (2 perfect) Shotgun Hits. EVEN IF I GET THE AR, PC vs MOBILE. I miss one shot it is Game Over. Just Nerfed SMG range damage? EVEN BETTER.
I thought it was ak
ak got nerfed
No it didn’t @coral isle it’s not in the update log or anoccments
its in game though
ak mythic used to do 21 damage
now it does 19
people complained about how op it was after that buff a while back
!rank
use #looking-for-group-old @cobalt zephyr
@bleak grail It actually was nerfed a few updates back, but I don't think they said anything about it
@scarlet bone Very important, the AR from crystal clash needs a definite nerf, it still beats the shotgun at point blank range which I dont think should be like that, its far stronger than all the other weapons, and also, the deagle is only doing 25 dmg in crystal clash, which is what the revolver is doing, but the revolver has a much better fire rate, I think the deagle should do what normal deagles do in crystal clash.
i haven't been killed by pistols yet?
Well I’ve just noticed
Also I meant more that as long you’re quick, you can destroy a crystal with pistols in less than 2 minutes
And it takes a while to stop you
The AR can do that too I don’t ever use pistols anyway
@coral isle no mythic AK does 20 damage
- is mythical bolt action a thing 2. can it be better than awp
@pulsar python Before last update i saw it multiple times. (idk if it's removed after dragonuv update)
And no it can't be better than an AWP.
@warped viper yes it has been removed after dragonov and
i think bolt has a faster reload and moving speed
@dim gull No, Dragonuv is supposed to replace mythic bolt like Silenced AR it's better in bullet speed, damage, FOV but 0.5 more reload time.
oic ok ty
@warped viper ok thanks
Make hunting rifles better
my suggestion for the hunting rifle is slightly higher damage like base white 45, green 47, and then remove the slowed down effect that happens after you fire it
either slower bullet speed or less damage for the rpg would be better so that campers cant just kill a guy with full shield in 2 shots
@somber bluff Oh ok
@mighty crypt its an RPG, are you stupid, be realistic now, one shot would blow you up, think dude! wdym two shots, be glad its two, and not one! in my opinion the RPG is under rated, but they do need to fix some of the splatter damage issues ive been experiencing.
yall really need to fix bullet range, i mean are you trying to tell me that a scar buller only goes as far as the screen...hell no! so honestly yall really need to fix the different bullet ranges, also the RPG bulled goes like straight! it does not, it is not an accurate weapon, so fix that as well, other than that, great game!
@orchid hedge me and my team destroyed he enemy’s crytal in 32 seconds
@unique quest I was referring to one person being able to by themself
@drowsy kettle i mean there isn't really much to counter campers and suicide bombers though
that use the rpg
and maybe think twice about being realistic cuz its a video game
lol suicide bombers in video games
with @cobalt zephyr ?
@cobalt zephyr first, you cannot use @ everyone
it's disabled
second, help with what
you can type
Also, post in in #report-a-problem
not this channel
The minigun is overpowered you can shoot at 124939227 kilometers and youll die
!rank
Balance minigun. Yeah, that can shoot at 124939227 kilometers
Just double pump the minigun user 🤷
Yeah
Add more varieties for the grenade launcher so it can compete against the rocket launcher maybe
The grenade launcher has one flaw that makes it kinda useless
I'll let someone figure it out
I know how to use the gernade launcher
@halcyon silo how are you supposed to double pump on mobile?
i dont have ways
Lier
@cobalt zephyr Please dont post that in every channel
Oooooooooooof
nerf bastion
i'm already tracer
no plz
plz no
are grenades ever gonna be possible to throw
Dragunov is so ridiculously rare that out of the 50+ games i've played since the update i got it ONCE and I didn't even get to use it.
aaand just got it lol
best strat for getting new weapons
complain about the rarity on discord
👌
Hey
@worldly geyser better story
i killed a guy with it and took it
Then went for a chest 2 tiles in the storm
And found another one
But i already had one and awp so i left it
nice
We should give everyone a 100 Ms delay So Its fair for everyone
depending on your average Ping you would deduct the delay
6000iq
then the game is balanced
Lmao
im being 100% serious @quiet basalt
Hmmm
Grenade Launcher buff. I see no good players running around with a grenade launcher since it's not really good.
+1
I’m mobile and I double pump
buff mp5
Notch up the flamethrower damage by 1. Not the flame damage though.
The after thing if u know what i mean
We should give everyone a 100 Ms delay So Its fair for everyone
depending on your average Ping you would deduct the delay
6000iq
then the game is balanced
fix miniguns
But how are they broken??? @proven pivot They can still shoot bullets.
minigun is a p90 with longer range
the only thing that is better than it in terms of an smg is that mythical one
that mythical one is kinda broken too if there are no buildings near by
but the minigun is pretty common and seems pretty overpowered because there are so many clips on the gun
if the gun accuracy on the gun is a little bit lower then that would make it less overpowered
ikr
Deagles suck tbh
No
If im close range im gonna be using a shottie
And if im long range im gonna be using ars and smgs
I cant think of a single time i used a deagle
no they aren't
if deagles do more damage then maybe
but they freakin 3 shot if the person doesn't go shields
how is that good
@tired vapor When u meme, ofc
Dont ping me
Okay
Thanx
Hey
Why are the European Server down🤔 ❓
hi
Deagle should get a bit of extra FOV
Yes, like 1 tile
Why
Because it’s not being picked up a lot
Mini sniper
It’ll be picked up wayyyyyy more imo
More???
Speaking of knockback, they should really add deagle knockback
Sounds legit
Small bullet weapons in general lack knockback, but the deagle does more damage per shot than a hecking epic semi-auto
Also buff the glock
I want it
Make it rare
wow u put a lot of time in this stuff
No
nvm then
This game is bad
Don't play it
I got shot by a bullet
And I died
Melee doesn't even stand a chance
that's because you're supposed to shoot?
Lol
yea thats the point of the game
idk if u knew that
for me, its kinda weird to pump people through walls
u think kills r easy to get in this game?
Yes
Yea
Speedrate for smg +0.1 / tile cuz no one uses it that much in terms of solo games
Don’t feel bad
It’s Okay
You can post that link in #looking-for-group-old
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Advertising is okay
Yu cant post it in #looking-for-group-old because it isnt zr related
Mb , what was it
Np
We aren’t busy anyways
It feels like the minigun does bugger all damage
i think it should have more rev up and do more damage
best nerf to minigun imo is longer wind up time
that way it's not so good in close range
and theyll get more damage on you before u can start firing
good idea
Yeh
I think they should nerf the range on it tho. it's always catching people off screen by stray shot
And As for the Dragunov, yea, the knockback could be bigger,even if a little,
but please SPAWN MORE OFTEN there's always like 2, at best, for end game and that sucks.
Dude flamethrower already got one
Still bad
Flame thrower is op
Goo gun needs a buff though
yes
buff minigun reduce spray increase damage by 2 and lobger range
well damage and range i understand but the spray goes everwhere
@drifting cloak yo dude can u hop in a game with me i wanna show a problem in the game that gives people a lot of advantage but like no one knows it yet but people will figure it out soon
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yes
honestly, vault flamethrower, shurikens, goo gun, the pellet gun, cactus bombs
put grappler into core game for better mobility
no cactus bombs need to stay
they suck so much
they need to be either buffed a ton or just completely vaulted
so take them out, and increase spawn rate of other guns
the mythical guns are bad
how?
like we don't need any more of those
if you kill players, you should get better guns
how bout we improve the freakin map
thats how a battle royale work
like the map is so freakin small
yea the map needs a major change
battle royales should last like 10 minutes at least
i just feel like the game is at a bad state right now
in terms of the trash guns
the weird weapons should just get vaulted
well someone needs to get all the bad guns
what?
its just karma
so you're saying that the game should be based on rng?
yes
what do you mean its just karma?
thats idiotic
so you want your chances of winning to be based on chance not skill
well this entire game is literally winnable without any good guns
you can literally win with just a pistol
tiger how many wins do you have
III have only like 180
im pretty sure you would lose
so im not the best
if your win rate is low then just don't say anything
i said that u can win
me too its ok
ik u would lose
i only have 100
what are you talking about? i win 80-90% of my games with at least 7 kills
sure
tiger how many wins
at close range tho
i have 434 wins
screenshot
started season 2
i started at season 3
ok
i c
cuz now i play brawl stars more
bc people now r too good
oh that too
i dont play that game lol
i gtg do work cya
talk to tiger
Well, add a backpack with cartridges so that there are not 10,000 cartridges! Every game I collect up to 2000 rounds for all weapons! (Google translator )
i c
-1 @potent silo
@paper vapor how can you say you want to remove the cactus bomb?
its a great granate
granade
also the map is perfect size and good as it is
all your suggestions sucks man xD
I like the massive ammounts of ammo
you can be almost constantly firing your minigun and have like 600 ammo.
ye i think the ammo isn't a problem
i remember when 50v50 first came out
there was literally no ammo for anyone
XD
the final people had to fist fight
it was amazing
😉
1 solo game with over 20 kills counts a 2solo wins
wtf
i agree with turtle
Thats stupid
allow people to play however they wish
If a player wants to camp
the game shouldnt punish them for it
+1 it's a strat
Koff
This is Stupid
I cant Use Shotguns
Snipers where fair
now its bs
if you're going to **** me over
Atleast give me Oceanic Server
y
Make bolt back to how it was please @ S E L A ! ! !
what
oh makes sense
If zr is keeping the Snipers like this, at least keep the old hunting rifle, it’s already not being used a lot
revert back the sniper mechanics , nerf SMGs ( especially Vectors )
Honestly now I kept getting killed by smgs easily , the range buff for them tho
Yea...
ZR is now broken
Yes
yes
Exactly
fix Snowball asap
What are they like?
like slows u down 85%
Wow
it's so broken
Yea
and deat 8 damage max
ok
u wanna play
max snowball stack is 30 and range has AWp's range
@humble glacier
100%nerf needed
Wait the view???
You can see as far as when you have an AWP???
yes
WTF
if u zoom out it is far
but no zooming i think it's shorter idk but overall long
@scarlet bone
Snowball
Range: classified as a grenade
Damage: nerf to 4
Freezing speed: nerf .5 sec
Stack: buff +5
rarity:+1 uncommon(harder to farm from trees)
@cobalt zephyr Youtube Zombs Royale Channel was deleted by his father. 😢
i swear theres only one dragan sniper every match
i can never find a second one
is that just me and my lobbies?
I find at least 2 every match xD
reem#2807
This is the worst balance update I've ever seen
SMGs are now even stronger than the originals
I want to know who thought it was a smart idea to make the VSS use SMALL ammo
It wasn't a weapon that needed a buff - the legendary vss could kill any player 200 HP in a single magazine
@scarlet bone ^^^ Please help , the new update is super broken 👎🏻 And it doesn’t take much skill to win now
Show this to anyone who thinks this patch was a good idea
Nice man u just destroyed the snipers.
WORST BALANCE CHANGES EVER! P90 OP as hell, SNOWBALL breaks the game and AR is useless cos SMGs SO OP
i cant fight P90 users even with full shield and legendary MP5, he simply destroyed me in 0.5 seconds
VSS is OP and bolt is useless now
Lol tournament tomorrow with new uptade rip
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Snipers were good as they were. They were never tough to deal with at close range
I think Yang thought it was April fools so he buffed The Vector
Why Do msg and vectors reach so far?
I was from sniping Distance and this guy still could reach me with his vector!
This update is so broken
That sounds very broken
What the actual hecc
I tried to use a hunting rifle, but it did 5 damage.
5
I want to die
jk, but this update isn't very good
The meta has already shifted to P90 and VSS
Yea
this is bad chief
Take back the update
wtf ```
Every weapon change should revert back. Except for the gift launcher, at least that’s not broken
They should buff melee or make flamethrower sniper range 66dmg/sec
Vault Vector, Add Shotgun To Supply Drop
Make potions faster to drink
@scarlet bone remove the bolt range thing it sucks
it's ok
No its not
mmm
agree
yeah it sucks
there's no way to reliably deal a lot of damage without spraying at short distances anymore
you used to be able to open a door and then shoot your bolt then instantly switch to an ar and kill them
why not shotgun lmao
guys
we have an issue
**Snowballs are like the best thing in the game now **
Snowball OP
ye
+1
New update is quite bad. Changing it back to normal will make people actually love snipers.
VSS is way too fast right now. Change it back up to 10 ammo per round to make it normal again.
Bolt at close range - It isn't really my favorite right now. This game is 2d, there shouldn't be damage drop off on a sniper.
Make the Hunting Rifle as slow as it was, it's way too OP and people will pick up even the most common weapons. I feel like this will balance the game out. I don't think people minded the fact that VSS now uses Small ammo so that should stay.
^^^^^
^^^
Lol, thx for ruining the game devs, now I can quit in peace <3
XD
ima just stick with my impulse nades and smg
i'ma stick with smg and ar bc everything else lags
lol
all i use snipers for now is scouting
yea
yea
What if there is a guy with AWp
a wut?
Airdrop
hmmm i got 62 damage from bolt at 15-25 block radius on bolt
SAME JIM
I can't even use bolts anymore. Legit does 3 damage up close... I can't even hit people it's honestly annoying. Please, this is just annoying please fix. @sela#0001
@scarlet bone
sad face
please
@clear wren hecking tryhard i just want to hecking play some games to do challenges
@ashen isle tryhard
lol
im spectating u
oops
yeah i died
The bolt is meant for long range
but was good for medium range
Overall, update doo doo
Na i like it
watch them nerf the deagle
@rocky frigate what would the damage be of sayyyyy a bolt from like 5 tiles away ? If its not atleast 55/60+ then i would def agree
Well Idk the damage of rarities of bolts so actually I dont know
from 5 tiles it's 12-15 i think
the snipers where in need of a nerf
they were the only weapon good in every scenario
Throwing off the balance of the game
I didnt even use SMG or Shotgujn
Now i have to
Its good
Anyways u get my point
well i wish if they nerfed it it would be less damage all ranges
Uhhh
Yeah that's what I thought
@dim gull somebody earlier said bolt does 12-15 damage from like 5 tiles away that cant be true ?
if it is im joining the movement lol
damage ????
wtf ?
ok I change my mind thats pretty ridiculous 15 damage 😂
@dim gull
pls nerf zombies XD
Give us the FREAKING 50% OFF
yes, nerf zombies. They swarm u too e-z now.
tfw when spam meta is infuriating https://giphy.com/gifs/mfw-everything-reddit-oYtVHSxngR3lC
Call me if you want to join the Virus
no
Nerf The F***king SMG's
how is NO ONE talking about this
Fix the SMG
P90 should go back to what it was
In terms Of damage drop off
Burst SMG should stay the same
Vector didnt need a buff
yeah
Normal Smg Shouldve just had +1 Not 20%
simple
Honestlt
the P90 was balanced Pre buff
same wiht the SMG in general
The sniper change is great
revert everything else
Call me if yo want to join my clan
@final jungle Hey Dude, put that in #looking-for-group-old It would be much appreciated
Just read my name I DELT 12 DAMAGE WITH A BOLT 12 DAMAGE
REEEEE
And also nerf the mini guns range pls then I’ll be a happy camper
l0l
lol
hi
Fix the zombies, they do too much damage and too many appear. They swarm a LOT, pls fix
I just won 3 games in a row, you just have to think instead of shoot
yep
they get uber weak at day
just get an ar to slow them down
M4 does well
HiDe at NighT
no question
SMG's need a definite range nerf, I was using my bolt and this guy managed to kill me with and smg from that far away
anyone wanna duo add me h#4572
naw im good
vector needs a nerf in range
vector does
The damage drop off snipers is ok for bolt, but for hunting rifle is dumb
I just did 5 damage indoors
but I was lucky on my next shot, it did 6
...
I think bolt should do 30-40 damage close range, since it's very effective close range.
Hunting rifle should do at least 15-25 damage close range, so it can be viable against bolt
the firing speed buff was a good idea, but the damage is just uncomparable to bolt and long range
baxtrix is irrelevant
@faint sundial
Hunting rifle is fairly better than bolt in high range
The hunting rifle does 90+ damage per max
While bolt does 70-80
I am going to post alot of my balancing ideas watch out
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Yes
Dont you hit those
@humble glacier you prob will dislike
But they arent new features
Except one
ok
Dislike plz ty@ @humble glacier
Oic
Ok
Ty click the reaction
Did you click no 🤔
@cobalt zephyr
Which you disagree
Ima improve it
Hmm ok
Ty tho
Actually if you dislike em give em a thumbs down
Give me suggestions @bleak grail
I feel like the buff part is good but the p90 was trash until they just buffed it and the AWP is an airdrop weapon so it is so post to do more damage and if they nerfed the grenade they would have to nerf the RPG because they deal the same amount of damage and the AK was just nerfed last week @dim gull
NP
Also how you feel about reworking deagle @bleak grail
Not
Quite your quitting @rocky frigate
Maybe you should get going
Yea
Why u say that @cobalt zephyr
