play with 2 miniguns in squads
#game-balance
bold raven
cobalt zephyr
minigun is to op 200 bullets INSANE!!
i ask something why is the semi-auto now so op?
solar pine
P90 pls nerf
sharp lily
p2000 balanced
merry lotus
Nerf The ShotGuns This Kid Killed Me I Had Full Shield And 98 HP
shrewd night
The shotguns were buffed a fair amount
I think they're ok where they're at, but it's frustrating having a someone come opposite you on the short side of the screen and then one-shot you
imo something needs to be implemented to make the vertical direction more similar to horizontal
flat veldt
Buff the revolver because it's kind of useless
quiet basalt
All shotguns were nerfed except tact @shrewd night
shrewd night
heading into season 3? Maybe after that, but was a pump really able to one shot 150 before? I was pretty sure there was a buff somewhere around the start of season 3
pale grail
I think shotguns need a buff
cerulean sundial
pump needs a buff
because sometimes i deal 0 dmg
the pump used to do around 90-170 when all bullets hit the target
teal idol
yh
cerulean sundial
now it deals around 50-120
teal idol
yh
quiet basalt
@shrewd night Before the most recent nerfs to pump, mythic used to do 105-120 dmg.
@cerulean sundial
shrewd night
When was the nerf?
I'm sure I'm just remembering before the nerf then
I rarely use them anyway so probably why I didn't notice
btw you don't have bullet speed on there. For most this isn't really noticeable or present, but in the case of rocket launchers that's the major difference between levels
You have them all rated the same but a legendary+ rocket launcher used right can prevent users from going within a large area without fear of being forced into large damage
And I think you're making a huge mistake rating the grenades (cactus and normal) both a B lol. People seem to really underestimate the power of choosing where it explodes
quiet basalt
As usual everyone doesn't read the part where it says the grading system is primarily for new players.
Pls don't be as ignorant next time :)
shrewd night
Fair, except that I realized that as a new player... So please don't make baseless assumptions next time 😃
The rocket launcher grading does make sense though when taking that into account
But I'd still put bullet speed on the sheet for at least that since it's such a major part of them
quiet basalt
Feel free to make your own :)
shrewd night
Sure, but does that mean you don't want input from others?
quiet basalt
Hard to get really accurate data on bullet speed, and anyone with more than a dozen games can compare by eye.
And there isn't a ton of variation in bullet speed inside of weapon classes anyways
If you need it badly, feel free to record gameplay and time it manually, however inaccurate it may be :)
solar pine
I’m getting sniped with shotguns pls nerf the shotguns
Also
Change this pls
So annoying
Makes me want to stop playing the game
bold raven
cosmetics Shouldnt affect view of the gam
arctic heron
Zombies mode is extremely annoying in night time, because the zombies are nearly impossible to outrun and they come in massive hordes at late game, the only chance of survival is camping.
cobalt zephyr
Zombies mode is impossible because when it nighttime zombies are over powered
On a late game
rocky frigate
@cobalt zephyr you got to play very smart in zombies mode
Pay attention to storm, and plan where you’re headed
And also use the storm to help kill zombies
merry lotus
@drifting cloak
formal drum
@quiet basalt I can't read the text because I'm on my phone and I can't zoom in because it said "Protected file"
formal drum
I'll have to get on PC. Still doesn't work.
quiet basalt
f
marble prism
need to try and reduce the lag on chrome
humble glacier
^^^ Please
prisma sedge
Read my name
modest gate
@pastel stone dont announce that in here
wicked oracle
The zombies are too op
trail finch
The zombies are too op
indigo blaze
I have a gaming mouse 😄
Just got it today for my chromebook 🎃
Halloween is a week away
jade quest
i think its balanced...
Buff hunting, for a littlebit
If it get buffed a lot it will be same like bolt
formal drum
Even more powerful than the bolt considering you can spam it to oblivion
Chances are, it'll probably stay as it is.
Considering how the gun is completely semi-auto, it'll be almost always be a bad weapon no matter what.
cobalt zephyr
Who wants to play
humble glacier
PLEASE bring back the melee through walls @scarlet bone you dont understand how useful it is for most players!!
scarlet bone
It is fun and I miss it too, but put yourself in the shoes of a new player - "oh I'm doing well let me hide in this corner, wait what he just killed me through a wall?? I quit"
scarlet bone
As where if they died to something like you impulsing through a wall, they're more like "oh I didn't know you could do that"
humble glacier
Well the I quit bit may apply to us when we try to punch through walls and dont work
scarlet bone
It's less of a bs
humble glacier
😭
humble glacier
Btw Nice work on new gamemode Sela +other devs Its my favourite so far!
clever jacinth
I quit life
clever jacinth
tawny mortar
lmao
humble glacier
But as Sela said, impulses will look as if you arent hacking
tawny mortar
the pistols one is too frequent
tawny mortar
ive only gotten sniper once
humble glacier
I havent got any pistols but otherwise pretty even spread
tawny mortar
pistols is horrible
clever jacinth
The dual pistols feel weak now
tawny mortar
all pistols are the same so basically its a fight for who has the most heals rather than gun
best one is rpg
its so fun
clever jacinth
Sniper is also fun
formal drum
Sniper's the most skill dependent one imo
clever jacinth
You better start praying boy
formal drum
While RPG is basically a bullet-hell
quiet basalt
hey @scarlet bone how exactly was the awp balanced? cant rly tell how it was nerfed
wait i think he has me blocked
whoops 😥
humble glacier
Yea RPG is cool fight
cobalt zephyr
can you buff the p90
i just died after unloading a full p90 magazine into a guy with full shield + full health
from 2 feet away
i didnt miss a single bullet (i was 2 feet away) and i dodged this guys shotgun like crazy
light vortex
i think you should stick to tommy gun for 2 feet away
cobalt zephyr
I suggest adding a thing like a grenade pistol, so pistols only can be at least a little bit of fun
Also pistols goes too common, for me
Sniper-1
Rpg-1
Ar-1
Smg-4
Shotgun-5
Pistol-8
cobalt zephyr
Wait wat
gleaming yacht
meh heavy shotgun too op
cobalt zephyr
Add refunds
cold vigil
HOI GUYS
sharp lily
@cold vigil where is pear?
cold vigil
IDK
quiet basalt
cant hit though walls anymore
smoky gate
jshdflsjfg i quit
@scarlet bone Whyyyy :( Now I can't hit people healing using a medkit :9
cobalt zephyr
(aww)
smoky gate
😢
rocky frigate
Nerf vector
cobalt zephyr
NO
rocky frigate
Yes
rocky frigate
It just sprays
clear junco
like p90?
grand epoch
It’s preeety good
smoky gate
its good
cobalt zephyr
Very good
cobalt zephyr
OwO
grand epoch
He was bad then
rocky frigate
That just means he was bad
clear junco
well i cant play now but ill definately go towards an air drop
rocky frigate
No one who is experienced dies to a common pump when has the vector
clear junco
to get my 50th solo win
grand epoch
I got 67 solo wins
grand epoch
Nah I don’t play often
clear junco
p90 needs a buff in damage and a nerf in spawnrate
9 damage with a legendary?
and the range?
a shot gun could do better
grand epoch
I agree with the last part but the fire rate and damage make it good
clear junco
well the range is like 2 cm
grand epoch
The kill time is 2 seconds as well
vale turret
buff the cross bow, like alot
tawny mortar
It does over a 100 damage and it’s range is the same as awp
What more do you need lol
violet notch
lol
indigo blaze
xD
formal drum
I agree. The damage and zoom is fine as is. I'd like the projectile speed buffed a bit though
tawny mortar
its the same as awp last i checked
quiet basalt
Huh, they didn't mention they changed it. I'll check later today and see.
Crossbow def. Needs a projectile spd buff tbh
tawny mortar
It's pretty balanced imo. View of AWP, ton of damage.
Also I think you were confused before cuz I said range. I meant to say FOV
quiet basalt
@tawny mortar i actually just checked in game, they secretely buffed range too
its 32 tiles
tawny mortar
Ohh
rocky frigate
Cross bow would be better if they made the arrows go 2x faster
dry umbra
How fast are we talking about?
violet notch
@rocky frigate they did
bold raven
Oof
rocky frigate
It seems slow lol
cobalt zephyr
@quiet basalt what do they mean by weapon tiers adjusted
humble glacier
@scarlet bone I keep getting people calling me a hacker because they punching through wall and it doesnt work, so every time I have to tell them that it changed Lol
quiet basalt
Just don't tell them lel
modest gate
yes lel
Btw can you make Crossbow speed a bit more faster, because even with AWP sight is hard to hit the people because of the slowness of the bow, ak is broken af.. 2 much damage, make sure to fix it! And MG36 is a bit meh for being an airdrop weapon, it should have 1-2 more damage and a bit faster rate.
prisma sedge
crossbow trash
cobalt zephyr
no u
gritty trail
vapid drum
crossbow is balanced
i personally like it
grenades need to be buffed to 90 damage
p90 drop rate needs to get nerfed
hunting rifle fire rate needs to be faster
thats my opinions
cobalt zephyr
@vapid drum ill dm you a server link on zr suggestions
cobalt zephyr
he wasnt
vapid drum
lol
waxen elm
for me i was confused when the p90 released and the airdrop
p90 = the fastest gun
3 days later
vector the fastest gun XDD
clever jacinth
Vector is an smg
graceful gull
Hi
vapid drum
hi
graceful gull
Hi
quiet basalt
hi
mild ore
clever jacinth
They still do
cobalt zephyr
Sup nerds
modest moat
hunting rifle could be viable if you didn’t slow down after shooting it
that would give it a special use
i would use it much more often just for that
cobalt zephyr
They might wait longer to buff another sniper weapon.
cobalt zephyr
Since the semi auto is just op now. The hunting rifle is meant to be a poor man's bolt
modest moat
semi auto feels fine to me
cobalt zephyr
It does suck though
cobalt zephyr
lol
modest moat
sick
cobalt zephyr
Revolver is gone now correct/
modest moat
yeah
cobalt zephyr
The first weapon to be removed I wonder what weapon will be next in the future.
Deagle I'm calling it.
modest moat
a sniper like a mix between bolt and semi would be sick. very low damage at close range but it ramps to up 100 at the very end of its range, super long reload
idk about 100 maybe 99
cobalt zephyr
The deagle was buffed right?
cobalt zephyr
Not enough to make it viable?
modest moat
not really
cobalt zephyr
oof
modest moat
you could use it like a sniper
fire, knock of 40 health and then finish with a full auto gun
cobalt zephyr
The tommy gun is some what viable now but I think they should have buffed it to 14 instead of 13 for the epic rarity.
cobalt zephyr
I guess
modest moat
good for scaring people with hella bullets
cobalt zephyr
lol
humble frigate
@cobalt zephyr it is removed from the CORE game, I think it means you'll still use it in the WR
cobalt zephyr
Burst smg sucks to me
cobalt zephyr
All the other pistols outclass it anyways
humble frigate
@cobalt zephyr a epic AR does 14 dmg and only has 30 mag so you sure bout it?
humble frigate
I don't
modest moat
i consider it an lmg
cobalt zephyr
Because everyone thinks spamming a p90 is skill at this point
modest moat
early game lmg
cobalt zephyr
People continue to use the p90 at medium range even though it only does like 7 or 6 damage at that range. Its hilarious
humble frigate
I don't use P90
humble frigate
I choose the AR
fresh kiln
make chests not spawn 100% of the time so its more like other games
modest moat
mythic smg is probably my favorite gun
cobalt zephyr
Mythic pump is mine, kills the p90 spammers quick for me.
modest moat
shotguns are really good now yeah
cobalt zephyr
Well when they get too close
modest moat
i mostly use assault for window peaking
cobalt zephyr
Me too
modest moat
pump is hot though
humble frigate
My fav is AWP(as long as I didn't go in a house)
modest moat
if it’s top 2 in an open field and you got an awp... gg
humble frigate
True
cobalt zephyr
I still hate the tactical even after buff
humble frigate
Yes me too
modest moat
it’s a pump wth less damage and faster firing/reload
humble frigate
No
cobalt zephyr
Tactical is stronger
humble frigate
It's only five bullets
cobalt zephyr
Just less bullets
humble frigate
You can dodge them in medium range
cobalt zephyr
The pump has more bullets and if they all hit it does massive damage
But thats a big IF
cobalt zephyr
The tactical seems like a good choice at first but then you see how mediocre it is compared to the others.
humble frigate
One way or another you'll get hit by two or three bullets
cobalt zephyr
It really easy to avoid like you said
Unless they back you into a corner or something or impulse into a house with you.
Which has happened to me a few times, but I've died to the assault and pump more.
inland tinsel
why tho
arctic heron
Deals over 100 damage in under 1-2 seconds, it's super devastating even with max shields and HP
clever jacinth
I recommend removing the vector
quiet basalt
jeez
inland tinsel
ikr
inland tinsel
lol
vapid drum
megomia
warped vapor
I have no idea how to balance zombsroyale
vapid drum
cool
warped vapor
lol
vapid drum
lol
i do
i know
...
want to know?
all u have to do is ...put it on a scale!!
xD
uncut oyster
Jk
vapid drum
xD
rigid orchid
hahahahahahahahaha
burnt raptor
try buffing the minigun by a little bit
viscid mountain
Balance!!!!!! 👌
vital scarab
iron heron
Hey
bold raven
GG boys
Insteaed of making it so It does more DMG
It should have a slightly smaller cone
+1 dmg increase
cobalt zephyr
Add back melee weapon through walls, they are useless other than that have terrible range and speed with a unreasonable 18 damage . The only pint of them being in the game is that you game sometimes get a hit or two with it through the wall.
Its not that big of a problem and does not unbalance the game. Also very hard to do on a moving opponent
modest gate
^
Please, EVERYONE wants melee weapon through walls back
Btw even tho u patched it some people has meleed me through walls
inland tinsel
yea lol
ashen isle
I see why melee weapons are useless now other than walking faster and looks, but they did buff the impulse and reverses ALOT
But yeah, bringing melee through walls back would be cool, even if it has a dmg nerf
modest moat
day 39294 vector still hasn’t been nerfed
dry owl
this game is doo doo fortnite is the best
soft bobcat
@modest gate the melee autos still passing walls depends on the weaponskin the bigger it is then more effective it is.
cobalt zephyr
Add back melee weapon through walls, they are useless other than that have terrible range and speed with a unreasonable 18 damage . The only pint of them being in the game is that you game sometimes get a hit or two with it through the wall.
Its not that big of a problem and does not unbalance the game. Also very hard to do on a moving opponent
VOTE THUMBS UP IF YOU AGREE
prisma sedge
melee weapon through wall was annoying
tawny mortar
not really
inland tinsel
I think Zombies should be removed in general. The best strat is to camp.
prisma sedge
exactly
modest moat
nerf ak
less damage, actual burst is a lot faster but time between bursts is longer
nobody uses the ak because it’s burst, they use it bc it has the most damage out of all the rifles.
also ar15 is doodoo
little wing
Lol
quiet basalt
Mini gun is fine, y'all just don't use it enough
zinc forum
tawny mortar
Oh you don’t wanna know 😉
rocky frigate
After 5 seconds of shooting someone with mini gun, about 4 bullets hit
modest moat
i love when stuff spreads
but fr minigun is only good in squads and i think it should stay that way
4 miniguns at once would be fun
humble glacier
@scarlet bone Played 70 rounds of mystery mode
42 sniper
23 rocket launcher
3 AR
1 SMG
1 Shotgun
0 Pistol
spiral osprey
hey sepolicman
tawny mortar
@bold raven
upbeat spoke
Hmm
Scar is my favorite AR, don’t think I’m DODO, but I like the accuracy on the gun, better than the AR, AR-15, and AK
Overmancer need to make more diep.io and more zombs royale montages
wide nimbus
SCAR is my least favourite AR lol
tawny mortar
^
subtle pumice
this game go to 
kindred summit
how to put some react?
dim gull
@subtle pumice 2100
slow sandal
FR
half flint
arctic heron
please nerf burst AK
jade quest
yeah its op, but if u know how to use it,
cobalt zephyr
@humble glacier I played 70 rounds of mystery game mode and this is what happened
humble glacier
?
shrewd night
I don't think zombies should be removed but reworked
Should be changed so that people can go out and the best player truly wins
You could even do something unique like make the storm only do 1 damage or something while still destroying the zombies so the final battle depends on how long you've been in the storm and an actual battle'
bold raven
Agreed
Circle does Lower Damage
and or the amount of zombies spawning is determined by amount of players left
6 zombies per player or so
and end game would have 30
kind hatch
No
Zombies isnt meant to be ez
Just wai until storm comes and kills the zombies and or impulse out and bunt your opponent
The whole point of zombies is to be hard
cobalt zephyr
yup
lunar spear
shotguns shoot like real shotguns with unpredictable bullets
rocky frigate
Shotguns r good rn
shrewd night
@kind hatch The point isn't difficulty of it. The point is that there's a lot of luck involved around it. We're trying to suggest things to bring more skill into it. Having it so that the final players will have to fight each other or not camp against zombies would make it more fun skillwise
rocky frigate
Using real life logic for a game isn’t always good
lunar spear
kek
cobalt zephyr
remove rpgs
rocky frigate
Wat?
cobalt zephyr
devs should kill themselves
honestly
ass game
been playin since they originally releced it
and have over 400 wins
ban me pls
honestly im done with this bullshit ima go play coolmath games
see yall
subtle hare
Yikes toxic
The game’s good
The game has grown so much and it’s dope
There’s just one thing that I can’t stress enough
bring down the prices
(Also add more items, it doesn’t matter if it’s a gun or item, maybe even ANOTHER grenade)
prisma sedge
Maybe add the double shotty
Ik they have a new shotty they havent released yet
And a silenced gun
cobalt zephyr
@prisma sedge During one of boxelders streams they were testing out a silenced weapon I think.
prisma sedge
Yea
quiet basalt
did u read his msg
cobalt zephyr
Sorry I read it wrong.
inland tinsel
Double Barrely Boi
mild stratus
iron heron
Who hacks zombs royal
bold raven
Me im a savage
bold raven
Great
rocky frigate
And x ray hack
I can see through houses without being near them!!
And coin hack
I have 200 coins from hacking
Muhahahaa
bold raven
plOz sEnD liNK tO hAcK
bold raven
Crossbows Shot should start slower and gradually increase in speed
rocky frigate
^ exactly
bold raven
this would encourage Longer shots
bold raven
yet if you Saw it coming It would be easy to dog
gilded totem
with max health and shield
bold raven
dodge
gilded totem
and wasn't paying attention
Maybe the other guy hurt me
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I started the fight with max stuff
quiet basalt
@gilded totem u were 1 shot with both 100 hp and 100 shield?
gilded totem
Welp so this is what happened
quiet basalt
That means they buffed crossbow dmg w/o telling us.
Used to only do 150 at Max range
gilded totem
3 man left including me
I found the other guy
started shooting him with my AK
he start shooting at me with like a M4
bold raven
Leadbraw u wanna test?
bold raven
I dont think this is real
gilded totem
and I instantly dies
bold raven
False alarms
quiet basalt
@bold raven I'mma be testing tomorrow w/ one of my irl friends.
I doubt it changed.
bold raven
he just got Dumpsters imo
quiet basalt
But gotta be sure
rocky frigate
I was once shot by a crossbow user, he didn’t even mean to shoot me, I just ran into it
Feelsbad
rocky frigate
I was walking and then... splat
gilded totem
The guy with scar had trash aim lol
rocky frigate
It’s alright
rocky frigate
It’s not like I get offended/insanely butt hurt, for me, trash is just a word that brings people down when u describe them as that
Unless you’re joking around like “ I’m trash” cause you made a bad play
If u know
gilded totem
Im trash
rocky frigate
Good ex
humble glacier
Please Nerf AK its kinda insane atm
I just peek around the corner and some guy with mythic AK comes shoots one burst while I shoot a bolt bullet, and they deal 63 and I deal 68, quite similar considering its and AR
bold raven
hitting all 3 is rare
cobalt zephyr
Buff melee weapon
no
What kind of buff anyways... They already removed the wall exploit.
cobalt zephyr
lol
sharp lily
or all health one hit
cobalt zephyr
People won't even pick up weapons when they drop they just chase you with a stick with an apple on it. lol
cobalt zephyr
They need to fix that the weapon slot screen
It bothers me a bit that my mythic melee shows as common sometimes.
sharp lily
yep
me too
it is a legendary wepon
but like that
they make it like its useless but its not
or they just don't care about the rarity of your melee wepon
cobalt zephyr
So I watched a stream from a few days ago on boxelder's twitch... Are they adding a grapple gun...
Stink bombs, a new sniper, a few or one new ar, a rubber ball gun that thats all i remember seeing...
Pls no grapple gun... I already deal with that in fortnite... oof
cobalt zephyr
They did a test for a bunch of guns it was exclusive to boxelders stream though
sharp lily
it shoots the blue thingy of the impuse grenade
cobalt zephyr
They will be added in the future after they work on balance for them I guess.
Well gtg my lunch is over oof
upbeat spoke
@bleak basin #looking-for-group-old
kind hatch
Hmm
merry lotus
rpg make them lower damage
cobalt zephyr
True
gilded totem
@merry lotus this is not like fortnite, you can not aim the ground. Therefore it's really easy to dodge RPG shots
remote lotus
HELLO
arctic heron
nerf BURST AK
dense bear
Nerf the shotgunnnnn
cobalt zephyr
Nerf the Flamethrower
humble glacier
Nu
bronze oracle
gilded totem
ikr lol
hazy turtle
gilded totem
@hazy turtle No, those links go into #looking-for-group-old and please only put it there once, this is only for Game balance
I can't give leaks anymore sowwy
I can take a guess tho
Uh oh Sela lurking mode activated 😂
tawny mortar
@quiet basalt are shotguns buffed?
quiet basalt
@tawny mortar my chart has has the new data for a while.
tawny mortar
K I’m dumb
quiet basalt
I always update it within 2 days or so of every update @tawny mortar
quiet basalt
Yeah pump is op
Uncommon is doing pretty much the same dmg mythic was doing before the nerf
quiet basalt
Well, all shotguns have dmg drop off now.
maiden kestrel
Shotgun shots goes too far
quiet basalt
But yeah, the buff of the reverse impulse radius and the buff to pumps made them crazy strong right now. Before, the radius of impulses wasn't a problem, since they're primarily used on your self, burlt reverses are usually used on other people, so the buff to each of them made reverses spike in power and viability much more than regular impulses
tawny mortar
Ye
quiet basalt
Overpowered tactics have emerged like using reverses to drag both u and someone else in and then pumping them
Point blank
tawny mortar
But like sometimes when ur going for an rpg shot you damage urself
If u reverse impulse and aren’t used to it
quiet basalt
I use reverses as well to make people hit themselves with their own rpgs
tawny mortar
Hm, pro strays bois
quiet basalt
Yeah, right now blue and above pump is stronger than even vector
tawny mortar
Wonder what will happen when the new gun releases 😉
quiet basalt
Especially when paired with reverses.
tawny mortar
Vector is doo doo
quiet basalt
It isn't bad, pumps are just very strong.
Needs like a 10-20 point total dmg reduction ad all ranks.
But tbh, while pumps work super well with the new reverses, vector works well with the regular impulses. Larger radius allow for crazier angles of attack
Only reason pump seems so much more op is because it unloads all it's dmg in a heartbeat, while any smg takes time.
elder lintel
SUGGESTION: NERF THE GOD FORSAKEN AR-15. Seriously, AR-15 is way too op. Its knockback is crazy, as well as its damage.
signal mist
quiet basalt
Nerf AR-15? Are you high
humble glacier
^^^
tawny mortar
LOL
cobalt zephyr
No vss is good
rocky frigate
Make it so when melee people, the knock back is 2 tiles lol
a tile*
Trolling the afks
quiet basalt
Bruh this channel is wild.
"nerf AR-15" "Vault VSS"
like what are you guys on cause dayum I want some.
gilded totem
^That's why it's air drop weapon
but need a bit balanced
and make it we can get any mythic, not only those
humble frigate
@gilded totem no way, it's already hard to get an airdrop without losing the most of your HP
humble frigate
@cobalt zephyr I think you drunk too much
And like a part of the peeps go to the airdrop and a lot of people are going to the cleanup like you'll never know when to clean up so
tawny mortar
To be honest. There are 2 outcomes.
- you go before anyone else and loot everything
- you win a 5vs1
Ez
wet stone
tru
i got an early airdrop and got the vector
the vector is really good
but thats ok because its hard to get
rocky frigate
but then you die by a player using vss as ar
quiet basalt
BuT i ThOuGhT tHe VsS wAs UnDeRpOwErEd?
stable token
Bug
warped viper
@cobalt zephyr Don't advertise please.
rocky frigate
Vss balanced
quiet basalt
^
Ikr bro. This channel is crazy
"nerf AR-15" "Vault VSS"
Like tf
Is anything needs a nerf it's pump
10 dmg off at all ranks.
rocky frigate
Vss is only op if you know how to aim and use it right for long rangeee
But that’s not everyone so it’s balanced
quiet basalt
Don't use the word op like that. Any weapon is good in the hands of a good player. Focus on the inherent qualities of the weapon.
rocky frigate
Yeah yeah
quiet basalt
Burst ar is only strong if u can hit ur shots. It has a high skill ceiling.
rocky frigate
Pump is balanced imo
quiet basalt
Ehhhhhhhhhh
rocky frigate
Not a lot of people still pick up pump
quiet basalt
Ehhhhhhhh
rocky frigate
Only the ones that know how to use it
quiet basalt
Uncommon pump does 114 dmg bruh. That combined with the reverse impulse buffs make it crazy strong.
rocky frigate
Or their style of play
quiet basalt
Look above to the discussion I had with overmancer about what makes pump insanely strong now.
rocky frigate
It’s kinda hard for the average player to use pump
With timing
Of when bullet come out, so they mis shoot
And only like 4 bullets hit
Pellets
quiet basalt
Pump is another weapon with a high skill ceiling, but it still is pretty strong in the hands of an average player.
rocky frigate
Ye
quiet basalt
People just prefer p90, it's a matter of preference, despite pump being the stronger weapon, but they just don't like using it
rocky frigate
It’s range is also balanced
quiet basalt
Pump needs a Nerf imo, just a simple dmg Nerf, like -10 dmg total all ranks
So that'd be a 0.6 repeating dmg nerf per pellet
rocky frigate
I peek using pumps against people using p90s. I do more dmg cause if you’re fast with doors, they can’t react fast enough, so pump deals more dmg with one shot, while their p90 spray does like 15 dmg
So ye just like u said, you gotta be good at it to pick it up over a p90
quiet basalt
Another reason why pump is stronger is because it unloads all it's dmg faster than any smg.
Smgs work better with impulses, pumps work better with reverses
And I said it's a matter of preference, I still believe someone with equal skill with both weapons, pump is still better, most players just don't like shotguns
quiet basalt
Whatever, they can keep using sprays, I'mma be f@!ng them up with pumps
Darn word filter lmao
rocky frigate
lol
It’s like my clip where I pumped everyone in that house, they were spraying but a shot from the pump is stronger
gilded totem
@humble frigate I never lose health when I go for them hehe
humble frigate
It's preference thing, like my friend always use flamethrower in a house and don't use a AK even though it's the stronger weapon. When you don't like it, you won't aim perfectly
Cuz you never use it
humble glacier
@upbeat spoke It deals more dmg the further away you are
It can deal 200 and insta kill at max range
cobalt zephyr
Buff pump shotgun. It only does 100 damage as an uncommon at point blank range. What if the opponent has a shield?
quiet basalt
@humble glacier doesn't it only do 150 at Max range? At least that's what I got when I testes
Tested
humble glacier
@quiet basalt Thats what I thought too, but there were like 15 people yesterday telling me I was wrong
worthy vine
😢
quiet basalt
@humble glacier well I'll check later today when im also testing dmg for the rubber gun
cobalt zephyr
i feel like the new rubber gun nullifies shotguns and rpgs(i have not tried out the rubber gun so please correct me if im wrong)
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@scarlet bone
sorry for mentioning
cobalt zephyr
^
if you have a legitimate question for a ranked member you can ask, if you have a suggestion, you can post it here and it will be seen by someone without need for ping... if you just want to make a broad comment about a gun you admit you haven't used yet... don't?
ive used it now
i still have the same statement
arctic heron
Nerf AK Burst
rocky frigate
Since when were ak bursts this fast?
quiet basalt
yeah they buffed the projectile speed on em a few days ago
lapis pier
minigun is bullshit
in weapons race the worst part is when you have minigun, after 1 minute of trying you get to rpg but thats not really better
lapis pier
you serious?
cobalt zephyr
yes
its best at shotgun range
fire it before you enter a building and boom
anyone inside is pretty much doomed
dusk onyx
7 damage AND you need to reload SO OP
quiet basalt
they reduced the cone it fires at, and increased the max fire rate, and increased the projectile speed
it got buffed a decent amount
cobalt zephyr
the fortnite thing
dusk onyx
facts
cobalt zephyr
it does not suck
dusk onyx
take the p90 if you need a gun that fires faster
cobalt zephyr
you have a point but
p90 has very low effective range
what else you got for me?
@dusk onyx
dusk onyx
what
cobalt zephyr
any other points you have to make
lapis pier
@cobalt zephyr what winrate do you have?
cobalt zephyr
how do i get that stat
lapis pier
tell me your games and your wins
cobalt zephyr
i just now started to play alot
15 wins
and
387 rounds
700 something kills altoghether
@lapis pier
@dusk onyx
lapis pier
thats like 8%
cobalt zephyr
thats bad prob
lapis pier
not really its ok
cobalt zephyr
it is?
lapis pier
thats not a stat sadly
cobalt zephyr
oh
lapis pier
go on leaderboard
cobalt zephyr
k
lapis pier
whats you average kill per game
cobalt zephyr
on kills/round?
lapis pier
yup
cobalt zephyr
yes
quiet basalt
The projectile speed of pump scales with rarity, and the projectile speed of ak actually decreases with rarity
@rocky frigate this explains ur clip from earlier
i did some testing
rocky frigate
Thanks @quiet basalt
quiet basalt
np
modest moat
Dualies still feel underpowered. no reason to take them over an smg.
and burst ar is still overpowered.
i want the burst to reward peaking more, rn it’s just accurate ar15 with too much damage
quiet basalt
burst ar projectile speed decreases with rarity, that along with the burst pattern balances it
it has a high skill ceiling
cobalt zephyr
is it just me or are goo guns super common while rubber guns are supposedly the same rarity and everything but i never see them?
humble glacier
I havent seen goo guns much at all
bold raven
Vault the cactus bomb
quiet basalt
??? why
this channel is fkn crazy
"nerf ar-15" "vault vss" "vault cactus bomb" like tf
quiet basalt
i think its the opposite tbh
bold raven
really?
bold raven
well then
Any reason y
Cactus bomb does self dmg
Rubber gun does more dmg
If u can use teh rubber gun (which is easy) its Op af
bold raven
its ok
cobalt zephyr
Its good bcs of the fire rate
The yang meta is good
I mean yang buffed shotguns
Buff rubba bubba gun spawn rate
upbeat citrus
thats easy to find out how many times you deid
rounds played-wins =how many times you died
lol
cobalt zephyr
Lol
dim gull
tf
sacred arch
please nerf the airdrop sniper please
cobalt zephyr
NO DONT dont nerf my sweeeetie
The only reason I win games with more than 10 kills
Lmao
cobalt zephyr
Buff the grenade launcher's rate of fire. It fires too slow giving people a chance to run away from the grenade
cobalt zephyr
They added it. It shoots grenades like the ones you throw but instead it's being shot from a gun @cobalt zephyr
cobalt zephyr
@cobalt zephyr its not a gren8 launcher its a rubber gun
cobalt zephyr
@cobalt zephyrnot the red ball rubber gun. I mean a grenade launcher that shoots grenades
cobalt zephyr
#seveYourInternet
cobalt zephyr
cherche jourue fr
cobalt zephyr
humble glacier
Ive played at least 100 rounds since Rubber gun released and still havent seen it once
rigid orchid
Make arrows go faster, I can't hit anyone with the crossbow
humble glacier
Its kind of suposed to be hard to hit
Because it deals so much when you hit them from far away
And also irl crossbows will never shoot as fast as guns
rigid orchid
True but it feels like it goes so slow compared to everything else
rigid orchid
Tbh I always take Bolts and AWPs over Crossbow every time because I can actually hit my shots lol
humble glacier
Yea
But crossbow gud for ammo
Oh yea
Please make crossbow have less ammo, I dont see why a crossbow needs the same amount of ammo as a VSS, when VSS dos like 3 - 5 bullets a second or whatever, and cross bow does one every 2 seconds
rigid orchid
VSS fires 10 bullets and Crossbow fires 1
prisma sedge
crossbow
dim gull
LOl
waxen elm
the crossbow isnt even used XD
cobalt zephyr
ye
cerulean sundial
wow
ya
like crate skins trade
not battle pass
i wined a game with only crossbow and i had 14 kill
kills
nerf the cactus bomb and shuriken
pls
way to op
dusky umbra
austere bane
shurikan is balanced
rigid orchid
@cerulean sundial You just need to stay away from it at close range, otherwise its nearly useless
cobalt zephyr
@drowsy finch ?
ripe rock
I hate cactus bomb it always kills me even if I throw it XD
arctic remnant
same
drowsy finch
What
willow goblet
I think the splash radius of the rocket launcher needs to be increased a little. Its too underpowerd
arctic remnant
Im not sure if it is just me but shotguns seem underpowered, some issues with it is the pellet travel time being so slow and when you get hit with the shot gun you get pushed back. what the devs should do to buff the shotguns in increase the progectil speed or lessen the knockback or even get rid of it.
willow goblet
shotguns should stun if most of the bullets hit
cobalt zephyr
Shotguns already got a buff and they are viable. There's no need for extra buffs at the moment.
arctic remnant
ok cool
willow goblet
good
cobalt zephyr
@cobalt zephyr nope, shotguns were always great, Box just discovered it on the stream and now everyon thinks they been buffed
@cobalt zephyr Um no they were buffed like twice I think
@cobalt zephyr I knew shotguns were always great, but they were buffed. It said it on the update logs.
Because I certainly remember a time where a pump couldn't one shot.
Yeah me too
quiet basalt
@cobalt zephyr @cobalt zephyr pumps were nerfed, then buffed, then nerfed, and just recently they were buffed again.
cobalt zephyr
k