#game-balance
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Space Blazer -> Space Melter -> Space Inferno
yeah I play on PC but I wanted to try the Flamethrower out
ok
World record by me
Sorry
Hi
if ur looking to talk go to #general or #off-topic @hexed falcon
Ok
Here's a question: does the damage upgrade have any effect on the flamethrower afterburn
Flamethrower cannot beat quad that has pen, flamethrower does not deal more afterburn when damage is upgraded
Hi
hi
@thin cradle That aint a world record
Fat
theres a visual bug happening for me, i put a msg in #report-a-problem about it
i assume its happening to others as well
i feel like theres not enough ppl in the match or ppl die too quickly
people die too quickly lol
Because everyone and their dog jumps right as soon as the game starts
Which when I'm kill hungry I also do and walk away with 5-7 kills because most of them suck
Meanwhile if you look somewhere far from the plane you get basically the entire location to yourself
Oof
In the Space battle gamemode, make the snipers have more bullet penetration, so they have a chance against the quad split rifle
How about someone change the final weapon of dual shot rifle that everyone is using in space battle?
cuz it's unbalanced as hell
Truth
a
How about you start using pen in your other builds? Lol
What other build have you put max bullet pen on? Even one?
Then you complain you can't penetrate it
xD
@iron lark
9 points in pen, full damage, full firing rate
I'm not braindead, it's just unbalanced dude.
I've been trying to beat it with nearly all weapons
and so far rockets are "doing something"
but still losing to dual shot rifle
Lol I destroyed the rocket sniper with quad split
^
it's unbalanced and it's #game-balance channel
that's all :v
@iron lark so any other ideas how to beat it?
hi
ok
btw, Goran got nearly 500 kills with this weapon and with 0 points added in bullet pen
I don't even bother with damage on that build
You kill them so quickly anyways
Usually I have one point
ekhem
I'm talking about bullet pene
he was playing for over 50 minutes and he didn't died
bullets from this weapon are just hard to penetrate
#game-balance nerf the vss sniper, its too easy to kill someone
rpg reload is way too fast
annam#1806 was muted
RPG is fine imo
The rpg is slow anyways why would the reload matter oof
He probably backed himself into a corner, which is where the RPG is strong, then was surprised it was strong.
We all know
- đ to browser, amirite?
Dont bother doing anything bout it
Make ak great again
Make sniper from the drop nerfed
Make the 10 bullet sniper buffed
Mo5k smg thingy rare from 11-14 to 10 or 12
And rocket launcher faster reload slight slower speed
Make chug jug 9.7 seconds
Grenades more area dmg but less dmg
So more hit range but less dmg
Let meelee dmg be from 18 to 19
Buff p90 +1 dmg
Deagles should have slight more sight
^^^ecause its a sniper pistol
AR-15 slight buff for epic and nerf for rare
make diamond buying for irl money less
If its usd then I advise 10usd for max gems
If its currency from buyers place then make it 5% less
Aka
(Cost) x 5%
If cost was 100
Then it will go to 95
**The inpulse grenades need bigger spread!!! BLUE AND RED ONES
Also make them faster
This will encourage players to think of new strats like how I did
Space battles too much like Diep.io
So dont use it anymore
Zombie envasion good
Superpower is all about luck no fun
Zombie good tho
50v50 is meh
BRING BACK bUiLdInG mAtErIaLs!!!!
Maybe a scar legendary more common or let it exist
Take scar rare
Then double number
Then do that + 8
^^^scar legend
Action bolt needs faster bullet speed
@simple dew could you try to condense your messages? like posting a pargraph instead of a vertical wall of text
Yeah ok
thanks
Action bolt sniper needs faster bullet speed as it is a action bolt. Also, The 6 bullet sniper need more sight due to itâs lack of damage and speed. Chests need to be worth less. Consider vector with more reload time. Maybe 0.4 more? This is due to the fact how it sweeps!!!
You might want to have a bit of a switch in the bottom left side of map where woods are. Maybe, go add more trees?
The âbushesâ arenât that great because your gun sticks through them. Either REMOVE THEM or MAKE THEM BIGGER X3
Get the parachute to drop faster but move faster too
^^ also include a new building in the lake
Kite thats is mythical shall change to legendary
Minigun needs to be buffed by a smidge
Faster shooting
In the start before is shoots, that should be less
Mini gun does need a buff. Chests are fine. Bolt speed should not be buffed. The semi auto needs simply a mag size increase. Vector reload is fine, you already will be punished in that time. Bushes aren't supposed to allow you to have your weapon out. That's the trade you make for being hidden
Yeah
But at least make them useable
If only by noobs
I personally use them for healing
There are a few airdrop spots that are close enough to bushes that you can open it while in the bush
did this dude say buff p90 +2 damage
Bushes have a use
They break up the game a little by providing uncertainty
I think they're a fine addition
Good ambushes near airdrop as lead mentioned
Free kills
And yes he did. Why, I have no idea.
hi
sean
Hello
swean
@iron lark is your name pronounced scene or Shaun
@cobalt zephyr Im not gonna say get better, but seriously, it is possible to win or come in top 3 consistently
that's me as of like 10 mins ago
proof:
almost exactly a half hour ago I posted the first
now again, in a different class
2 consecutive matches
My highest victory streak is 24
Mine is 71
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@quiet basalt um? DM if you have an issue with a user wich you would like to report
Look at this dood
Look at the top of his head
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i will never not love hearing that
@iron lark do you ever post outside of #game-balance? lol
"no no no no bwaaaaa"
Sometimes. I'm common in suggestions.
General, very rarely
Showcase sometimes
Might also be a little inactive for awhile. Lots of studying to do, working a ton, and working out my body to pieces.
The ar-15 damage should be nerfed
It's basically a blue tommy
with a bit more damage
And less bullets
uncommon and higher AR-15s do more dmg than blue Tommy Gun. AR-15 also has a higher fire rate, and a range of 23 tiles, compared to the Tommy Gun's 17
i personally think the AR-15 is in a good state right now, and if anything, it needs a small buff to compete with the other ARs imo
Kk so these are my final thoughts
Homie
I just spent like 50 min on a msg it auto delete
Im sad
Oh well
Bruh
It happend again
@cobalt zephyr it's even worse than that. In diep.io lower levels have higher base maneuverability(but lower health), meaning they can run away efficiently from stronger players. As far as i can tell, that doesn't apply to space battle
Also that exclusive mobile-only OP weapon is utter bs
Yea, people would think they are op because you have to log in on mobile but they are bad
I was 220K points alive for 50 minutes. until Fire rate and Bullet penetration beat me. If you get ahead at the start, you can just kill the up and coming and stay dominant all game. I died to a 50K. Only thing I can think of to balance is to highlight the top player to let people know where to avoid and where to hunt if they are able to kill the top guy.
121 kills
@nimble mulch I mean there is no diffrence from a guy with 120K and a guy with 31K, it's fair. đ
Okay, I just hard farmed to 31K on the edge of the map between two corners and killed the Number one after he killed me 3-4 times and used the dead alien emote. Feels balanced.
moving on from #suggestions
All drop weapons beat any contestants in their class
Be it HMG, AWM or Kriss Vector
Which is the point of them....
I think they would RARRREEEELLYY spawn on map
Thats why they like that, so everyone goes for them
Well, dont go for airdrops then
I do so
And rip some guns off the corpses
Anyways I won a Solo Duo even meeting 2 AWPs
Only because there were buildings nearby
And I had a Mythical Pump Shotgun
If they had Vectors instead...
Ok
Yea
But 10% of players at most use em
And failed by falling into corner
You died from SkinsAreFromNoobs?
Nope
Afff
I Dont Fail
Just a troll
Yup
Like when overmancer had 1 win
Anyways...
Maybe drop weapons have ONE flaw each, but otherwise they outplay any gun of same type.
Meh
AWP:Weak in CQB
They supposed to do that so no one cares
mg36 is pretty good actually, the only other AR better than it would be the AR-15
i guess you could say ar is better than mg but the mg does 1 pt less dmg than the mythic ar, and it has a 90 mag and also has a farther range
imo Mythic AR is the best AR, followed by MG36
I think I would go with mg36 because it has a huge clip size
ok so there is something i have noticed: the minigun being way too common. for a legendary gun, it seems to be so insanely common. about 2/3 of the enemies I've killed have dropped legendary miniguns. whats up with that?
*bots
The clip size is a large factor in the MG36
Reloading in the middle of a trade is a nice way to die
ar15 > mg36 > ar > scar > burst there ya go
ar15>mg36 are u high
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Burst is the best
It does over ten damage for 1 of 3 bullets so if u can land all 3, your dealing like 30, which is the most for any time of AR in the game
Issue with that is then you're not shooting as fast
So it's more prone to damage threshold loss
Any damage more evenly spread out over time will care less about damage thresholds. Any damage dealt in less frequent, higher bursts will both be able to abuse and suffer more from thresholds
If double burst was a thing, that would be op
If that makes sense
ar-15 is the best by far
Meh mythic burst does 19 damage per bullet and it shoots in bursts of 3 so itâs really op if you are good at aiming
very true and there is a trick that i do with 2 mythic bursts
you switch between them and they can fire continuously
difficult to use but it can potentially deal more dps than vector even at far range
my favorite gun is the mythic burst
ok
you dont even need to be good at aiming XD
@smoky vigil #questions
Burst AR excels at mid range and picking out
But would be used with solid cover, like AMMO CRATES
Eh it's fine just stay at long range
I'll take a more rapid firing fifteen damage AR over the burst 19, because nineteen doesn't break any major damage thresholds.
If it had literally one more point of damage, though, I'd take it any day
Both will output near 60 damage in the same time, but the automatic will output exactly sixty (15* 4) whereas the burst will output almost sixty (19* 3)
So if the opponent is at either 60,120,or 180 health another entire burst will be required.
does someone wanna talk in duo 5 in voice channels
There are situations other than wide open fields. Clip size helps when fighting around buildings
If I hear a reloading sound, I know it's safe to shoot them
and i want a new gun
..........
I'd only understand taking a scar over an ar 15 in this game if the scar was mythic.... other than that why wouldn't you take the ar 15.
Now if the ar 15 had another damage nerf then yes I'd probably take another weapon.
@daring dagger it has damage drop off so its only OP if you're at normal smg or closer range.
@smoky vigil dat trick is normal
they don't have targeting bullets
I use the burst and it just melts people so yea...
A decent person with a vector vs me with a epic burst... I will win lol
it's situational
Yea
If far away burst will win. If closer vector will shred
There should be another high-scope sniper like the airdrop one
cuz that is so unbalanced in final 4 circles
Well it can't be non airdrop lol
That would be OP
Plus if the target has a bolt they can see basically the same distance, minus two tiles
And at two tiles you can see the AWPs barrel
AWP player has an advtange but will not win for sure
Carry a sniper to counter snipe.
Well they should take out snipers because you cant even zoom in on the sniper because it is 2d.that is so dumb that they have snipers in the game
Clearly is an FPS purist
As if games were designed to be in only 3d
God forbid anyone enjoy anything else
^^ lmao
i identify as an attack helicopter
Plus 360 no scopes are fun and how would you do them without snipers
the thing with no scopes in most games is that u have no idea where the bullet will go as there is no marker, in zombs u always have the marker which means that hitting the no scope is a lot easier as u know exactly where the bullet will go
idk if that made sense in writing but yeah
Ban this dude pls
ban who
Huh?
@cobalt zephyr #off-topic
ShauN Gaming#5926 was muted
I was in a match and fighting someone and he used the chat to make me not see him...like this:
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
TEAM TEAM
someone wanna join voice channels
Funk
No you definitely didn't.
No pump deals 200 damage. Even at point blank range with mythic
How much will the nest season pass be?
okay thanks @humble glacier
No
Screw that
Watch all the pros
They couldn be pros without snipers
This game would lose 90% of the players if snipers dissappeared
@wet folio snipers are great in this game imo, you arenât forced to pick one up if you donât want to.
@humble glacier true dat
@humble glacier Epic pump at max deals 98
and thats at poit blank everything hits
mythic, from what i can remeber, is in the 150s
I think the best weapons in this game are bolt snipers and AK47s
Boo
@stray edge yes it deals 158 dmg at max for mythic pump at point blank range
@nimble mulch You have to learn how to play this game....
Yea
Thats the point
You are supposed to do that
It is for skill
And when people impulse in/out of buildings and suprise attack you
Please add a guided missile
make battle pass less gems
ok then make gems easier to get
nice name @ancient frigate
thanks
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Make another shotgun, but for SUPER close range, it has 20 shells/bullets and each one deals 10 dmg
SO it can one shot shot ya from point balnk range
But make the range horrible
Like 5 squares or so
it will suck and only rare blue :/
delete vss and add scope ar
each one bullet deals 14 dmg
only mythic cuz i see a lot peoples suck and call who killed them hacker.
and 20 bullets too
hi
fine
vector = too op
wrong
Don't hug someone with the vector, maybe.
!rank
both uncommon and common rocket launchers are doing 92 dmg consistently when hitting someone.
huh
i know the direct damage used to scale as well, perhaps they changed it and i didnt notice because i prty much never use rocket launchers
i just had an epic rocket launcher do 93 direct damage
so they didnt make it uniform across the board
Sounds about right
now i just need to get my hands on a legendary and mythic rocket launcher
and hit someone with em
well ill still make sure
@humble glacier Common does 92 direct, Uncommon 92, Rare 93, Epic 93
okk
and i assume since u think Mythic does 94 direct that they stick with the pattern
Yea
so Legendary 94 and Mythic 94
SO Iwas right
Hi
hi
change drum gun damage 10 t0 13

Tommy gun is a crutch. It's fine serving that role
Helps those with less accuracy be decent. Less punishing for misses.
But not as good as an AR with good aim
@dusk pond #looking-for-group-old
make it so that you cant punch through walls
@unreal temple i kinda like it being a feature it should stay its a way to surprise people who are healing in buildings
i want free credits
Ikr wee need more damage on the tommy gun
They need to buff p90
maybe buff pistol because if its the only weapon u have then higher chance of surviving legendary p90 or AR
P90s are lit thoe
Can you please remove victorys because I feel sad that only 1-4 people get it every match
If you remove victories I will be very đ happy
In fact I would also like the battle pass to be free because I'm a poor African child
I live in Indonesia and I drink bathwater
Get rid of SHURIKENS please
Vault hunting rifles
the mytic sniper that isnt a bolt action should get removed
it isnt a vss or a hunting
the white sniper
The awp
nooooooo
I disagree.
About the awp removal
With a bolt it can be countered. Or by simply using cover
Also @twin lily remove victories? How do you plan on doing that?
It's not a co-op game
k,,,mm,m, m, m m mm,
@iron lark, very simple there is no victories, nobody wins everybody gets the same. communism
@kind hatch How dare you
No, but how literally do you manage it
It's impossie to remove victories. Someone will always be last alive
Make the AWP damage 100 but make some special type of AWP Ammo that comes with the awp like 25 bullets so it is balanced out, I mean, itâs only a 2 damage difference between the mythical sniper, and the awp, so make it 100 please đ
100 damage awp would be broken as hell. Even with only 25 shots
Sigh my autocorrect corrected shots to đŠ and it deleted my message
Oof
So basically with 98 damage you need 3 shots to kill a player with max health and shield but if it did 100 damage it would on,y take 2 shots to kill someone. This even a 2 damage difference can cause a huge change
âHuge chanceâ
Wut
So basically, if it had damage from 80-98 it would still kill them in 3 shots
Yup
Dude I just explained why we canât have a weapon that op
Yeah breakpoints are what matters, not damage.
ar and smgs meta
can someone give me tip to win
Why donât you just make awp have slower speed when you carry it
The first thing I saw was that miniguns were in the meta and laughed for 10 minutes
And that was like an hour ago
pump shotgun with flamethrower is NOICE
Too bad you have to get pretty close for it to be effective and smgs still are supreme right now
yeh i know
Why did zombs copy fortnite's meta whyyyyy...
idk
I hate smgs in this game and fortnite because its hard to counter
Some people will just rush in the middle of a fight with an smg not caring if they die
you could counter with snipe if you have good aim
It's even worse for me in fortnite....
And my aim is terrible in that game
Which is why I practice
same
Thank god building isn't in this game
lol
I'd be dead more than usual
It sucks because everyone is good at fortnite now
except people who spray smg
i wish there was keybinding in this game
Make full stats for Mobil
Put that in #suggestions
....
Well then why is it in game balance
This for weapon balance and other thing relating to the core gameplay
Until they add a new weapon pretty much anything that goes here now is pretty much agreed on sometimes. Like how there needs to be a shift in the meta because smg meta is starting to get on my nerves......
wym smg meta was always a thing since the start @cobalt zephyr
yeah there was a few fortnite dudes who used the shotty but other than that it was all smg
Its even more annoying now
yeah
with p90
vector
i get it
it makes the reg smg look bad
its really annoying dying to p90 and vector
With the first two smgs it was pretty tame it wasn't necessary to carry an smg since some people also had shotguns
But now its very critical that you have some kind of smg.... not the burst smg though that thing should just be removed...
Like even mythical burst smgs are left behind and if people think you're that bad of an smg then it just doesn't serve a use in my opinion since the normal smg is mor powerful than the other two. The p90 is just faster with more ammo amount.
yeah
i get it, smgs and shottys used to be balanced but with the addition of the aidrop vector n stuff
The flamethrower is pretty much outgunned by anything unless someone is not smart enough to run away from it or fight it
exactly
What's the point of waiting to land somewhere good when you can simply land in the very first rift you see?
I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but rifts pretty much ruined landing anywhere
But Cooly, rifts are almost guaranteed to teleport you to somewhere nobody has ever been when you're first landing
It renders waiting till the end to land almost pointless
Yes but there are plenty of other people who also take the first rift they see
Get rid of rifts season 3
Donât want em, donât need em.
Add in like a new thing, which allows you to summon an air strike which is another thing you can find in Airdrops!
Mythic
Which only does 6 damage, however a lot of them drop.
we have portals, not rifts
Oops
get rid of p90, it is killing the game
I concur with lead. Landing to get into the first rift is a very risky proposition, as unless you're among the first few there it will temporarily shut down and you'll be a sitting duck.
I would like to say that I think that the minigun needs a buff.
Maybe it should do 11 damage in stead of 9
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Yeah, the LMG is infinitely better than the minigun, although the LMG is only obtainable from an airdrop.
Viable ?
yeah. . . all special weapons are kinda jokes, no offense, minigun's start up is slow and low damage, shurikens are decent when you are very close, otherwise they only do about 16 damage, cactus is decent, and flamethrower is terrible to anyone who knows how to put space between it.
join duo 3 of you want to one v one
no, i personally prefer the smg over the p90 because of the accuracy and more damage per shot. As for the vectore, it is good because it can only be found in one game 0-3 times so there isnt much to worry about if your a good player because the snipers balance everything out
0-2*
P90 advantages are only in very particular scenario, almost overlapping with the shotgun utility, up close, face up
Anything past face to face, it's utility is outmatched, by almost any tier SMG
Making the P90 quite specialized, and not compatible with certain loadouts, for example AK, you need a weapon to switch into for short range, not face to face, to switch into quick, like the AR, AR-15 or Scar (purple+, otherwise, it just does too little damage)
my 2 cents on the matter
A+ essay
can someone unmute me
hi
I feel like this game is perfectly balanced.
It is lol
P90s will generally out match shotguns in open combat
Shotguns excel around corners and other terrain where you can use defenders advantage
Ok nic
i personaly think that the vector is way too overpowered
no its cuz its too op
Ok
i beat the vector with a vss in one of those huts
theres a max 2 vectors in a game, making it very rare and high risk-high reward. the vector is far better than any other smg
idk why i like p90 more than smg but both are good in different situations
burst smg is terrible and really doesnt have a point except for a replacement smg
@regal isle rly? I almost get a vector every game I make it to like top 25
well yes vectors are easy to get if ur good and can take on multiple people at an airdrop and 2 vectors pass around when people die, but drop rate is at max, 2-3
so its easy to get but theres 2 every game, making it technically rare
Every time I open a Airdrop I literally get the same thing everytime. 1. A Mythic Vector SMG 2. Meds and or ammo
I think the meta will eventually become P90/Vector, SMG, Sniper, heals/utilities
imo the vector has a low skill requirement, but a high skill ceiling. The difference between someone who is mediocre with it vs. someone who is an expert with it is massive. But unless you play a situation perfectly in every way, another person can capitalize.
nerf the vector.
pount
point*
its realy op.ik its an airdrop weapon but i thought i had the win/dub then i died from a freaking vector.i would like a dmg reduction or speed reduction plz and thank u.
@iron lark i did some testing, and smg dmg numbers havent changed like randomcoolguy said, however something is different with the ar15. I used an epic and a common one to test, and it looks like common is still doing 10 dmg, and as far as i could tell, and i tried multiple times, it wasnt affected by dmg drop off, but the epic was doing 12 dmg, and consistently doing 11 dmg at longer range, meaning it is affected by dmg drop off. not sure what to make of this.
update: rare smg doing 11-12 dmg, not affected by range
its interesting how damage ranges work in this game, because it wont be like bullets dealing 11 12 11 12 12 11 12 11 11 dmg its alot more like 11 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 12 if u get what i mean
makes it harder
also had green ar15 doing a consistent 11 dmg close range
im tryna get my hands on a common ar15 and common smg to see how they're behaving
green smg doing consistent 11 dmg
yellow ar15 doing consistent 12 dmg
purple smg doing consistent 13 dmg so far
green ar15 doing 10-11 dmg, not affected by distance
purple ar15 doing 11-12 not affected by distance
@regal isle im done, check my sheet for the up-to-date info on the SMG and AR-15
got it, ill check it tmrw thanks 
im gonna really get into this game balance type stuff it sounds cool
its more tedious than cool
Y u bulling me?
bad ideas get down thumbs, good ideas get up thumbs
@quiet basalt is it a google dock sheet?
U got the link to it?
Hello! The game is already very bored, the map is already very tired. Please do not update one site on this map, create a new map. for the new season
Ideas: winter map, ice, footprints, to hear the sounds of the enemy at a great distance (quiet sounds, as in the game PUBG)
New gadgets: Boots, let me not slide on the ice (you can find it in the airdrop)
New skins: Winter hats, animal costumes, yeti.
New effect after death: ordinary: Stickers. paid effects: animated.
Grenades: a snow grenade slows shooting by 15% and walking by 35% (range 4 cells)
The fire grenade acts on the ground for 3 seconds, you stand in fire 20 damage, the burning effect lasts like that of a flamethrower (radius of action 5-6 cells)
After 6 months of play, already very tired! need global update
(expressed his opinion Doki, Russian guy)
What she said
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who wants to play with me
I think the smgs need to be buffed
Maybe accuracy
who wants to play with me
Someone please answer me on this:
The blue Tommy Gun deals 10 damage per shot.
The purple Tommy Gun deals 11 damage per shot.
These weapons are generally found early game, when no one has shields yet.
So, if you're shooting a person with max health with a Tommy Gun, it will take 10 bullets to kill, regardless of the rarity.
This doesn't make the Tommy Gun very viable, especially when a green AR15 has a way higher DPS.
Because of this, the blue Tommy Gun and purple Tommy Gun should each recieve a 1 damage buff per shot.
This way there would be a reason to keep a purple Tommy Gun over some AR's for early to mid game.
Alternatively, you can add a legendary Tommy Gun that deals 12 damage per shot.
@faint sundial DPS =/= Useful
yawn
Too Many Yawn
Dang it
@potent silo i like the idea, two things to note: there is already a snow hat, and this is more of a suggestion to be put in #suggestions . other than that, i really like ur ideas!
the game is bomb already
@regal isle rn im looking into assault rifle dmg, just had a mythic assault rifle do 15-16 up close instead of the solid 16
Hmmmm
Weird
But there has been lag due to the chests being released permanently
@quiet basalt
that wouldnt affect anything
and my ping + fps are always consistently very low
but anyways, i think i figured it out, and im updating my sheet accordingly
oh, and also, btw. i know this was changed a lil while back, but its still worth knowing
Mhm?
cactus bombs dont ricochet off surfaces anymore @humble glacier
Mhm
Its actually made it worse
Coz now when you put it through a window, it not gonna deal as mcuh
Mhm
i dont like how its now a more high-risk high-reward weapon
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but actually, now that i think about it, i like it
Which one?
u can one shot someone with full shield and full hp if u get the cactus bomb directly under them
and even if its just close, it can still deal a good 50-100 depending on how close it is
it's also a pretty good zoning/poking weapon
Mhm
Oof
200 hp gone instantly
@regal isle ths) but you can come up with many beautiful hats!
What is the difference between the usual role of the unusual?
@potent silo Uncommon just means they were active and speaking in chat a decent amount
You will get it automatically after a while
ths
hello
Hallo
Acid launcher?
p90 does too much damage
@queen schooner actually p90 has one of the lowest damages in the game, but has a very fast fire rate
@regal isle shreds enemies too fast
i could see that, but its just as good as the smg imo
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nr958qg4bfmHjue73CgMZZNVU4gdompfrld1B3IeRx0/edit#gid=0 if u wanna see damages u can check out this spreadsheet if ya want đ
@regal isle Damage don't matter, DPS matter đ
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Minigun should get a buff and well accurate shots like AWP
and have the fire rate of the vector
yep
imo MG36 is pretty underwhelming for an airdrop weapon. Considering AWP is the best Sniper and Vector is the best SMG, it's a little odd that imo MG36 is outclassed by legendary-mythic burst ARs and the mythic assault rifle. The mag is supposed to make up for that but very rarely do fights last long enough that you use even half of that mag before you have a chance to reload.
Burst's aren't better than MG ?
imo the high tier ones def are.
They can kill people much faster than the MG36, and are more accurate
Burst ar rewards accuracy much more than mg36
dont forget awp
I dont know many good players who don't carry either an AR or a standard SMG
Or at least a VSS in place of the AR
vss instead of ar ew
@quiet basalt Agreed about the AK being better than a MG36
Accurate shooting, 3 bullets dealing 19 damage I think it is, and just a pretty fast and strong weapon off of the Ak
i realt want a meta change like all i see is freaking p90s and vectors. i almost got 2 wins then died by a vector or p90.plz nerf
P90s r way to common killed a guy that three p90s
don't know what you guys think but i think shot guns should be nerfed
Hi
Lol
at first i loved the burst, then i hated it, im thinking of starting to use the high tier ones again
so nobodyâs gonna talk about how he just said shotguns need a nerf
@lime bobcat shotguns are only good early game imo
close range fights should be done with an ar or smg since there is much less time between shots
P90 isn't that OP (I didn't say it isn't OP) in solo, when you have three friend and plays P90 squad... It's just brutal (bullets everywhere, you can't dodge) then you'll see the true power of the P90
It's just broken
Maybe nerf the firing speed a little bit
And Vector musnt be nerfed cuz it's a airdrop weapon
@quiet basalt MG36 should be buffed to 16 DMG, but I don't think it needs to be the strongest AR
@clear wren Actually all three legendary uniques are bad
minigun: only 9 dmg and you have to shoot a while for a good shoot per second
flamethrower: the range is so bad and it only does 11 dmg plus the fire dmg that's also being nerfed (in the old version the fire does 2 dmg per sec and now it only does 1 dmg per sec)
shurikens: @! ! ! ! [SHREKT]MrSpacein it only does 80 dmg when all five shurikens are on one thing and you can only shoot 6 times (a legendary pump does over 100 so it can oneshot people without shield) so, shurikens should be buffed!! (the only thing that's good about shurikens is the far range)
nah shurikens are OP
You can't stack them
you guys just say they are bad and never us ethem. theyu destroy early game and help in looting which lets you get better weapons and win. focus on advantages than downsides :/
ive easily killed 200/200 health guy witha shotgun with shurikens and they have a way bigger spread than pump
Shurikens are good
ye awp and vector are pretty much uncontested as the best weapons in the game
^
Definitely
REDUSE spawn rate of zombies
i had to move to the circle i had like 20
couldnt do anything
yeah the amount of zombies in late game get a little ridiculous lol
did the p90 get buff
Trash
I suck at the game
@tawny mortar shruikens have less projectile speed than a shotty, and an absurd spread that makes it near impossible to do solid damage without getting directly on top of your opponent. They're out damaged by any uncommon or higher pump shotgun. I tried to give them a chance, but it is simply not worth the inventory slot compared to a shotgun (except tact) or a p90.
Shuriken is the worst throwable imo
We can buff them by making reducing the spread and increase the speed
Iwould just like them gone
Lol
@quiet basaltas I said. Good for early game to kill people while they are distracted by looting and then you can stack up on loot. Shurikens are not viable for mid or late game.
Ye lol
p90s are a bit underpowered
yeah
@tawny mortar tbh I find shotguns and p90s much more often then I find shurikens. They just aren't worth using at any stage in the game.
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P90 is balanced
Standoff YT#7395 has been warned.
new goo gun stats: 14 damage a hit, ticks for 3 damage (0.5 seconds about) and has a shorter range, about the same as the p90
Buff the Goo Gun
xD
Anyone got goo gun stats?
Look up
So it's a slightly buffed flamethrower?
Also that's a bad description. Is that fourteen damage the bullet damage or the damage over time
its straight dmg but thats 13
I think there are 5 or something idk
Havent actually used it yet
Just watched vids
k
I imagine lead is already working on stats
@iron lark @humble glacier out of state rn, I'll have the stats on my sheet Sunday
okie
I think its pretty gud
It's basically a flamethrower with a little bit of range
And seeing how I don't use flamethrower I don't think I'll use this one either
It's good
No
NOT GOOD GUN, Goo Gun 16 dmg gold ver!!!!
um ok
goo gun's projectile is slow
but faster than flamethrower's
ok goo gun is trash confirmed
kills by goo gun's dot is not recorded
@smoky basalt yes it is and yes the legendary should be faster than the epic one
I want uncommon zomb ;(
@cobalt zephyr uncommon is level 7 on mee6 leaderboard, you should get it after being active for a couple days. also ths channel is for talking about the weapons and the balance
Ty for the info but
Goo gun is good for corner peeking, because one shot deals a lot of damage over time. Trash for direct combat
It's not even comparable to the flamethrower
Different thing entirely.
yea
hi
If RPG and Flamethrower had a baby u get a diseased baby aka the goo gun
It's decent tho
same
Nerf the AR and AR Burst PLEASE!!
they need a buff tbh
p90 balanced
Goo gunn is bad i think
it would be good if it slowed the target just by like 30%
so it means u could use it
hit and run
DZzonny18#9308 has been warned.
Yah the goo gun should prob get a minor buff, but right now its not too bad for peaking around corners with the one hit guaranteed DOT.
Minor slow during it would make sense and balance it a bit.
yah
flamethrower could Reduce Your damage
Goo gun is a decent utility item rn, adding slow makes it a GOOD utility item
of your opponent
Hi
make goo gun do 24 dmg over time then 28 for legendary
lol knew i was a bad source.
@knotty fractal don't bypass like that, u may get muted or banned
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@cobalt zephyr Don't advertise please.
Buff nades, make their explosion increase by 10 tiles
flamethrower buff suggestion: increase damage exponentially as you hit your target
current: does 11 (I think? doesn't really matter) dmg per tick
buffed: every 0.75 seconds that you are under flamethrower the damage will increase by 3 (so after .75 seconds it will be 14 dmg per tick, then 17)
@rocky frigate you mean radius
Add in a buffed airdrop shotgun, like one with more damage than pump, or one which shoots faster and more damage than assault
My suggestion was a joke btw
everyone wanting to add an airdrop shotty: theres already a vector as a close range airdrop weapon, so there wouldnt be a reason to put a second close range weapon. thats like saying "add a barrett in the airdrop" but it wouldnt really make sense since theres already the awp
The ninja stars should be more clustered, and the speed should increase by a lot, they should still come in 30x and we should only be able to throw 3 at once
People would use them more
Less spread and faster
i am depressed ; ^ ;
I actually like that
Make it so the goo gun poison counts as your kill. If the poison from my goo gun kills someone, I think it should count as my kill.
Probably a glitch @cobalt zephyr
any1 down for duos
#looking-for-group-old @copper hinge
tryna add goo gun stats to my sheet but still cant find a legendary goo gun yet
its been 5 games so far, gotten 4 epic goo guns, 0 legendary
oof
5 epic
okay, i found one, but someone else picked it up and killed me with it
ugh
okay i got one
yeet
Noice
Ive never seen a legendary one in game, but ive seen about 20 epic's
I think the legendary ones should have a higher spawn rate maybe
goo gun stats have been added
Nice
@iron lark
Thanks
Np
k
Make the goo gun do 17 - 19 ish dmg for the initial shot so that it is worth picking up, I find that the only use for it atm is either to shoot them at first then switch to Smg or AR, and the other use is that you can shoot it while spinning in circles and it looks really cool
why are you trying to ping people
Make mythics 3x more rare
Bruh
Itâs annoying when a whole squad moves up on you with vectors or something. People should be carrying legendaries. In my mind, mythics are weapons you should be crying over if you find one in match.
Also nerf the vector
That things insane
Normally, they come out of airdrops
No
So
So nerf them
I killed a dude that had a vector
How do you send images on a server
You have to be an uncommon zomb
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