How many bullets it shoots a second
#game-balance
rigid orchid
But that's affected by reload
desert badge
Well what ever
rigid orchid
What do you mean lmao
desert badge
Play a round with me
trail sorrel
I agree smgs and shotguns should reduce fov
supple frigate
and a decreased range
craggy osprey
Especially the assault shotgun
sleek drum
ThAt has the smallest fov ur dumb
rigid orchid
@sleek drum I don't think you understand what they're saying
somber patrol
isn’t assault shotty meant to be a longer range shotgun
rigid orchid
Yea
rigid orchid
Agree
A lot of people saying that AAS needs a nerf
Because it's too much for high damage plus the speed
pearl depot
Reduced fov on shotguns and smgs is a terrible idea. That makes no sense! If anything, reduce the range but it makes no reasonable sense that holding an msg or shotgun would make you all the sudden not see as far.
winter schooner
^
craggy osprey
How is the game getting funded and I would feel bad that the people who first bought had to spend money lol
craggy osprey
You have to buy it lol
sonic jetty
can u nerft the new assault shotgun, I was 1 v 1 this guy with an assault shotgun, he was lit 1 shot from dead and he just hits me with the shotgun from not that close, and just died! I had like almost full health it is so op @scarlet bone
mortal flare
I think you guys should nerf the tommy gun
@scarlet bone May you nerf the SMGs fire rates and damage and tommy gun damage
sleek drum
Its trash
cobalt zephyr
bruh u want to nerf everything?
tommy gun needs a buff:Less range but faster shots per second.
somber patrol
please don't ping devs they're busy but they can see your suggestions just fine :)
tiny igloo
i like the crystal crash gamemode
coral lichen
It's a little to easy in my opinion but fun.
royal bane
II'd say the tommy is trash
primal kelp
Aw
royal bane
It's fire rate isn't note worthy, it has a absolutely horrid reload, damage isn't note worthy, magazine size isn't anything note worthy
Literally worse then the smgs
But hey atleast it's not a pistol
zealous lark
Some people play together in solo mode, it seems to me that this is not fair. My question is this: Will this somehow be corrected, will the game be restricted to such people, will it be possible to complain about them (write down the demo as evidence)
supple frigate
You can't really fix teaming sadly
cobalt zephyr
The mini gun needs a buff :No reloading but takes specail ammo,not just any ammo.
@zealous lark If u're good u can always rekt teamers.Just train hard and u'll find them easy as hell.
zealous lark
@cobalt zephyr I use an interpreter and did not understand the meaning of your phrase, I hope you advised me to train more so that it would be easier to see such couples. But you will agree, mass character sometimes wins skill 🙁
somber patrol
@zealous lark yes, i believe he was telling you to get better
@cobalt zephyr that's not always true, if the top two players in the world teamed you probably wouldn't be able to beat them unless you teamed up yourself. however, the people that team up are the ones who aren't good at the game and need to rely on the help of others because they don't have the skill to win games individually, so being able to rekt teamers is just due to their low skill level. i do agree this issue needs to be resolved though.
cobalt zephyr
In solo,u can always beat teamers,confuse them and go next to there mates and they'll end up killing themselves even if they team you've got to use strategy.Strategy beats both skill and teaming.
somber patrol
yes, but the premise of your argument is that the teamers are bad. if you have two good players teaming up it'll be near impossible to beat @cobalt zephyr if strategy beats skill, they have 2x strategy and 2x skill.
craggy osprey
Especially if they are on the phone or sitting next to each other communicating
cobalt zephyr
It's useless putting an argument when they can't change anything.How can u stop solo teamers.You're gonna put a 5 metre block if a computer is playing that no one in the house or there friends can?
pseudo pumice
Sela Is the only one that chats and he's even not on
somber patrol
yeah the point is the devs really can't change anything about teaming, if you have an idea how drop it in #suggestions @cobalt zephyr
somber patrol
this is #off-topic >:( @cobalt zephyr
cobalt zephyr
sorry thought it was off topic not game balance
stray edge
lol
cobalt zephyr
didnt look
solar delta
Simply make teaming not allowed. Then allow players to report such teamers if they do.
just making Teaming against the rules will reduce the amount of them I'm sure
solar delta
And add a little notice on the loading screen Teaming in solo's is not allowed
dim cape
if i want to fight teams solo i queue up for duos and watch my partner immediately drop as the round starts 😂
solar delta
or uncheck autofill like me xD
faint sundial
The epic Tommy Gun needs a buff
It does 11 damage
but it still takes 10 hits to kill
same as the rare Tommy Gun
At least change it's damage to 12 so that it can kill in 9 shots
somber patrol
how do you report players? they can change their nicknames there's no actual way to ensure someone is someone else
faint sundial
@somber patrol #questions
somber patrol
that's not a question, i know you can't report players i'm asking totalhavoc how he can ensure that teaming is prevented
i answered my question right after i asked it, not everything ending with a ? is a #questions post 😅
somber patrol
it's a rhetorical question
faint sundial
But it would be more appropiate if it was in #questions
somber patrol
haha but yes, let's take this out of #game-balance as not to clog up chat
faint sundial
So do you really not want an answer?
faint sundial
So then why did you ask it in the first place?
somber patrol
because it's a rhetorical question, i.e. i wanted to make a point
refer to the dictionary definition above
faint sundial
cool
cobalt zephyr
i think the hunting rifle should be buffed and nerfed at the same time, like since its just a hunting rifle maybe less view than a bolt, but more damage than it does now
right now i would like using the hunting rifle, but i feel even picking up a semi auto sniper is better, and never pick them up
dim cape
i feel like hunting rifle is less useful at range but has use at multiple ranges
compared to semi which is really only useful at a great distance
so i think its fine where it is, it just fills a different niche
rigid orchid
I still find gray and green tommy guns more rare than the purple ones
naive drum
@rigid orchid yes, a weapon rarity rework is in progress
rigid orchid
👌
solar delta
@somber patrol When you are spectating that there could be a "Report player" button
somber patrol
couldn't that be abused? also how will the people evaluating the report have any evidence unless they keep all the game logs
which probably takes up too much memory for people to sift through it all
sharp epoch
@somber patrol so what your saying that if yo uhack you prob wont get caught?
somber patrol
no, teaming isn't hacking and teaming is hard to enforce :/
tawny mortar
there arent many ways to hack this game, the only hack i can come up for is aimbot and there are no public scripts for aimbot so you would have to make one yourself and based on our average player age , nobody has the skills to do such a thing
somber patrol
"based on our average player age" lmao
tawny mortar
xD
somber patrol
sad truths
tawny mortar
its like 12 year olds cmon
cobalt zephyr
Just lower mobile LoS, and everything will be fine.
cobalt zephyr
heres what the devs kinda do wrong. they didnt have too add the assault shotgun when the battlepass came out. instead they could have saved it. And have added it later
lucid wadi
hi, could you please add chests for 100 z coins on pc?🤔
cobalt zephyr
@lucid wadi #suggestions
scenic jolt
Who i can send a vid
amber orbit
need to ban me iam too good
cobalt zephyr
could you add weekly gems?
regal isle
buff the tommy gun, its kinda weak
craggy osprey
That would not work here because people spam
rigid orchid
@cobalt zephyr What do you need
grizzled quail
@old magnet shotguns are great at close range and if they really are in your face, a shotgun will win. if the guy can land their shots, but this is assuming they are the same level. shotguns can one shot people.
regal isle
vss needs to reach further, its a good gun but it goes so shortly
cobalt zephyr
Hello
tawny mortar
@regal isle thats why it shoots so fast, if its bullet traveled longer distances it would be too broken
regal isle
i guess that is true
but it seems medium range and it never reaches my opponents and thats why id rather use a bolt
rigid orchid
@regal isle The reason there are multiple snipers is so that each one can fit a player's needs, that's why balance is so important because a gun that can do everything isn't what the game is for
regal isle
thats very true, but all of the other snipers reach farther than a vss
i think idk its always the vss that doesnt reach for me
rigid orchid
@regal isle The reason there are multiple snipers is so that each one can fit a player's needs, that's why balance is so important because a gun that can do everything isn't what the game is for
regal isle
yeah ur right
pseudo pumice
add vehicles
fringe tapir
I think they should not,coming from my point of view I don't want them to put it cause it's going to be like um... like weird like driving a car in third person
just nvm
tepid meadow
u move fast enough already
fringe tapir
right
autumn cypress
idk vehicles could be good but hard to execute it due to the lack of a big map which is why i propose that they should expand the map, not saying anything ridiculous here but could be cool to have some diversity
fringe tapir
idk
tawny mortar
@autumn cypressthis map is pretty big, the old map was like half the size of this
cobalt zephyr
hi
meager jetty
Probably too late now for this suggestion, but the assualt rifle in crystal clash badly needs a nerf
fringe tapir
I think that zombs should let mobile players play with mobile players
and pc players play with pc players
upbeat spoke
@fringe tapir #suggestions
fringe tapir
ik
dim cape
ar is fine in crystal clash ppl just need to coordinate better
fringe tapir
ikr
sage flame
The marksman and shotgun class sucks in crystal clash. You get slaughtered by smgs and ARs
haughty crow
Yea
Ar and smg's rek ur face
For marksman just make the sniper have more than one bullet
Like maybe 5
hidden walrus
they should add a bush
tawny mortar
You have to use different strategies for marksman
haughty crow
True
tawny mortar
You have to hide in bushes and shoot from afar
hidden walrus
ya
haughty crow
...
cobalt zephyr
anyone duos?
tawny mortar
You can do 100 damage per shot if you are far enough
Marksman is more as a support rather than offense
haughty crow
Yea I guess but ar needs a nerf or others need a buff
dim cape
marksman is an amazing support
if any class i feel is bad its rocketeer
but theres no way to fix that
assault is fine where it is
scout is fine where it is
shotgunner might could use a little buff
marksman is a great support
i see no reason to ever pick rocketeer
winter schooner
I feel like the rocketeer is okay, as long as you don’t use it like the scout. If you stay out of peoples way and just support the heavy classes, i think it’s fine. But I guess that’s more of an opinion.
dim cape
i feel like there isnt much that the rocketeer can do that the marksman doesn't do better
picking off targets from a distance? pick marksman
emergency burst damage? pick marksman
locking down parts of the map? pick marksman
getting rid of the enemy assault ASAP? m a r k s m a n
rocketeer is just eh
grizzled quail
@sage flame shotgun is good for killing crystal, which is all i use it for. i dont even fight
1 shot = 1% off crystal]
runic horizon
hexed barn
if they made the rockets on rocketeer faster mabe
dusty kite
bold raven
@dusty kite Completly inapropriate
rigid orchid
@dusty kite Don't advertise your channel
merry crag
rigid orchid
sigh
Don't advertise your server unless it's in #looking-for-group-old
Don't advertise your server if it's not Zombs Related
@gentle glen
graceful nicheBOT
I can't find user @gentle glen.
vast sphinx
He left
rigid orchid
Good
inland tinsel
ok
vast sphinx
rip
vast sphinx
mhm, because he left
topaz needle
👍
bold raven
ive never seen seenkay before xD
i thought Coolbot was the only Epic zombs
But now ive SEENkay
craggy osprey
There is lurphy too
bold raven
im adding this all to a list
And calling it the zombs mods
i will cotiuously add to it
Be warned
native shale
Your making a list of the mods?
native shale
Epics-Lurphy, Coolbot100x, PolyFold, Seenkay I guess but he doesn’t really count. Rares-Pigpower786, DatBoi, Log1c, noobhammer, Upcoming, AlphaRaptor88, OverMancer, MatJoy
dapper dome
take out cactus bombs cus there like hard to avoide when you throw them
craggy osprey
I still got sum gud kills they are not completely useless
bold raven
CAtus bombs Op
just use it in squads
Chuck in when they resing befor a push
sooo strong
dapper dome
make the storm do half the damage
quiet linden
horrible idea the storm is fine
broken oyster
cobalt zephyr
@past nova This is #game-balance, please keep anything unrelated to #off-topic. Thanks.
graceful nicheBOT
Eggs#2071 was muted
dim cape
cactus bomb is really good but also you can beat it by staying mobile
craggy osprey
But some still might hit u lol
red latch
Has grenades been. Buffed?)
supple frigate
No they don't, if you're a good player you shouldn't be dying to grenades
rocky cargo
well you should if there is a squad throwing grenades at you without stopping
supple frigate
How is that OP? that's pretty unlikely to happen
If a whole team 4v1s you with any weapon yeah you're probably going to die...
rocky cargo
not really..
atleast for me
but it doesnt mean its not op when there is not 4 people throwing it
supple frigate
It's not hard to dodge tbh and it's good at flushing out house campers
vast sphinx
Cactus grenades worry me more
winter schooner
yeah, if your in a building and somebody spams those your dead.
tropic osprey
i just had a whole squad with cactus grenades kill me
rustic arch
The AR-15 needs a nerf. Definitely lol
storm escarp
rocky plover
Will wer spielen kommt squt 4👌
rigid orchid
Id say it needs a slight fire rate nerf, it fires like an SMG and does a lot of damage at that
cobalt zephyr
i think the hunting rifle needs to be slightly buffed, just so its actually useful
warped viper
@cobalt zephyr Agree
hearty aspen
@sullen scarab one sec
marsh ivy
They need to buff the minigun
merry crag
Bolt sniper reload 1.00 to 0.80
winter schooner
I think for the mini gun they need to make the reload time faster. I know it already shoots pretty fast, but there are some smgs that shoot that fast and do more damage. And the whole point of a mini gun is to shoot really fast, right?
What I’m saying is if they just buff the damage it’s just going to be a hard-to-use smg.
supple frigate
Don't buff the reload time, buff the bullet speed/fire rate
marsh ivy
The minigun in my opinion should do a bit more damage like 1 or 2 more
rigid orchid
I say fire rate is more important in buffing minigun, I agree that the SMG fire rate is pretty similar to Minigun, so it should be buffed
haughty crow
In 50 v 50 there should be more ammo
Because at the start you only get the rounds that came with your gun and nobody gives u any
It's rare that u get more ammo
Because it's all taken
mossy lichen
^^^^YES^^^^^
arctic heron
Nerf AR Burst Rifle
unkempt mirage
100% nerf ar burst rifle.. the fact it pushes you back if pretty broken in it seelf. Thee damage it does, insane
onyx jolt
1 diamond for every win per day plz
tawny mortar
gems are an alternate currency used to support the devs, aka can be received only when bought
bold raven
Buff the Shurikens
All weapons should have a equal chance in life
it is weaponist that my kind are getting left out and discriminated against
So please Buff the Shurikens
bold raven
Not good enough
you will rarley get close enough to hit all 5
and it caps at 30 shurikens
usually you hit 2-3
not many
royal bane
That's literally pointless
There will always be a best
Now a gun that shoots them could be somethin' cool to see tho
jolly pagoda
The VSS needs a big nerf at the moment
Theres very litle accuracy to use it at the moment
Compared with the other snipers
royal bane
But it's damage is trash compared to a bolt
It punishes you for being out in the open and for having slow reactions
If you're not using a sniper for atleast the bonus sight you deserve the fate you bring apon yourself
supple frigate
vss damage should be -1 per rarity
tawny mortar
Vss has a low range which compensates for it's faster rate of fire
winter schooner
^
green onyx
francais
rigid orchid
@tawny mortar *its
cobalt zephyr
It takes a few shots to break glass, then you can shoot through it.
(Windows)
also 1 diamond each win
And chests for PC
winter schooner
Yea great ideas
craggy osprey
@cobalt zephyr I don’t think diamonds will ever be earnable in game because diamonds are funds for the devs
And has to be paid with real money so the devs could use it to support the game
But it would be cool if u could get z coins for wins...
rigid orchid
Holy gosh darn it
Assault Shotgun needs to stop knocking back people that's what I hate the most
dim cape
i think wins granting tiny amts of diamonds would be cool
not enough to be able to do a lot with but some would be cool
rigid orchid
I don’t think diamonds will ever be earnable in game because diamonds are funds for the devs - lodt548
dim cape
yes i read that
south knot
maybe if you could earn diamonds but had to pay for the battle pass
then it could be balanced
right?
hollow carbon
eh
that would still reduce revenue quite a bit
the battle pass is quite cheap
A little less than 10 dollars
south knot
dude i am SO tempted to roast you right now...
and what's cheap for me is $1-2
$10 is a lot
outer bridge
rOaSt
the goal of the battle pass is to make $ I would see it as a mistake to make ways to get it free
quiet linden
how does anyone find enough stuff to buy that they don't have ten dollars to spare
jesus, either get over the fact that it costs money or ask your parents for some
wintry mountain
austere bane
after all they don't have an effect just cosmetics
royal bane
I'd argue the backpack could make you easier to spot when it goes out of a window
And the tail is huge
hollow carbon
@royal bane but with backpacks you can brag that you never go outside and instead spend all day playing a fake fortnite game
royal bane
I mean I'm tier sixty and I only do dailys
Ten minutes a day
"Spend all day inside"
void dagger
Subscribe to my YT channel bradrocker06
I will do a vid with a squad if I get 50 subs
On Zombsroyale
I’m on 34 subs
royal bane
Your next words are going to be "I was only pretending"
hollow carbon
@royal bane wdym
You’ve had so little social interaction with other human beings that you don’t know what sarcasm or making jokes is?
That’s sad.
void dagger
Your getting anyoing and just stop plz @hollow carbon
royal bane
You literaly blurted out the crirngiest reply, and then continue under the guise of sarcasm
"I was only pretending"
split flame
that would be really nice tbh
void dagger
@hollow carbon just delete the app cuz u might have PRETENDED to download it
quiet linden
oh just making sure you guys know
with the ten dollars that you spent on one pass you can get all future passes as well with the gems you get so itll be worth it someday if this game is alive long enough
clear wren
PC chests
hollow carbon
@void dagger Stop trying to argue with me, you’re like ten years old and have a vocabulary that consists of three words, you’re not worth my time. If I don’t respond for three hours, I’m clearly not on discord or just don’t care. There is literally no reason to have made that second message, except to be annoying.
And also, don’t butt into an argument when you have no actual input except calling me annoying, thank you
void dagger
U obviously do care or u wouldn’t have messaged back
hexed geyser
<@&432227393067810823>
naive drum
Wassup @hexed geyser
hexed geyser
^ above
naive drum
Yah they should've brought the argument to dm, looks like it ended now, if they come back ping again
hexed geyser
👌
cobalt zephyr
..
hollow carbon
👍 @naive drum
pseudo pumice
@scarlet bone you should make it where when I decline a invite they can't spam even though they can see I'm in a game.
hollow carbon
^
rigid orchid
Make it so RPG's splash damage decreases the farther away you are from the impact zone
onyx jolt
Lower the dead people's HP to 200.
People using their dead teammates as meat shields can block a lot of damage
hollow carbon
^
dim cape
tbh using teammates as shields is a p solid strategy
cobalt zephyr
!rank
quiet holly
cobalt zephyr
I think you should do something about a issue
Because literally ANYTHING that shoots fast is good
You should buff shotguns and add things that DONT shoot fast
grizzled quail
@bold raven shurikens are amazing right now lmao
@cobalt zephyr shotguns are great
cobalt zephyr
I mean nobody uses them
vast sphinx
Personally, in every game I play at least 2 people try to kill me with a shotgun
clear tide
Buff the new shotgun please
vast sphinx
The new shotgun is devastating even without a buff
clear tide
No the range may be far but for me the dam
wind scroll
Dam = damage
uncut oyster
XD
winter schooner
I use shot guns all the time, and it usually works.
rigid orchid
The only shotgun I would be an incoming buff in would be the Pump, it doesn't have the best fire rate in the world and needs a damage boost tbh
cobalt zephyr
110 dmg? That’s pretty healthy to me
wind scroll
Ye xd
vocal sand
Make the p90 do more damage
tranquil quiver
wind scroll
@vocal sand that goes in #suggestions
limber kernel
cobalt zephyr
@rigid orchid the reason its like that is because it was nerfed to fire slower and the distance of the bullets were also nerfed. That was when the game was in the very early stages.
dim cape
shotguns dont need buffing lol
wind scroll
Agreed
onyx jolt
i like the P90 update
dim cape
assault has a shorter spread
dim cape
but also thats what makes the assault so strong
onyx jolt
Some noobs try to use it and i kill them
more kills for me
hexed barn
yea
wind scroll
I would think that maybe I fire rate of the P90 could go down a bit, I mean you can beat a shot gun close range
hexed barn
yea
dim cape
pump might have more damage overall but assault has a shorter spread meaning that it'll do max damage from further away
wind scroll
U can kill some in seconds
hexed barn
Hmm
well, I think mabe have the P90 have less spread
as it's kinda insane
and slow the bullets down a fraction
:/
wind scroll
Yea
dim cape
if you let someone with a p90 get close to you that's kind of your own fault
wind scroll
Faster than mini gun
hexed barn
mabe same ROF as mini
wind scroll
@dim cape ye tbh xd
dim cape
if you see someone carrying a p90 or a shotgun you shouldn't let them get close to you
hexed barn
and less spread
dim cape
i like the assault shotgun, hunting rifle, smoke grenade, cactus bomb, any AR
dim cape
ppl don't like it because its damage isnt fantastic and it's not super fast but i like it because it's versatile
wind scroll
Same, bolt
dim cape
it can do everything that the other rifles can do
even if it's not as good at each of those things as the different rifles
-it can scare ppl away at a distance
-it can deal solid damage, chipping ppl down
-fires frequently enough to scare ppl out of trying to rush you
bolt action does the first and second but it's really slow
other rifles are fast and hit decently well but they have worse dps than other guns
hunting rifle is well rounded and that's why i like it
onyx jolt
if i saw bullets coming toward me i would go over to investigate but idk about others
onyx jolt
if there are
wind scroll
Ye
delicate dirge
I'm lagging very badly even though my wifi is at full bars
wind scroll
Happens sometimes
unique quest
11:30 and I should probably be asleep GN
wind scroll
It’s only 11:30 @unique quest
bold raven
Thats good
its damage drop off is insane
making it balanced
and 1/2 bullets dont hit as HUGE spread
split flame
p90 sucks tbh why should they nerf it
but they should make it less common coz i see it everywhere like when the tommy gun came out
oh and my loadout is the ar and a bolt
and the rest is meds
quiet coral
- Trash the smokes
- Buff Tommy gun fire rate
- Buff P90 damadge
- Nerf Assault shotgun range
sharp lily
@quiet coral argee
bold raven
Smokes are amazing
get good
but ya Buff Tg and nerf AS
Also p90 is good close up
Yet 1 or 2 extra damage wouldnt hurt
but buff the damge fall off so its the same
rigid orchid
Smokes are actually a good supporting tool
You can throw them everywhere to create chaos and make an effective getaway, or use them as cloaks to hide behind
I love em
But Tommy Gun does fire a bit slow atm and Assault Shotgun needs to nerf damage and remove the knockback tbh
velvet escarp
craggy osprey
It’s op at close range but only close range I always kill with an AK so there was no competition to me the P90 is perfectly balanced ...
cobalt zephyr
Not like it does 20 damage per hit. Like in fortnite...
tough rock
yea
supple frigate
i think p90 is pretty balanced w/ dropoff
but i'll still stick with my mythic smg 😉
supple frigate
So can most guns in the game
Just dont try and close range with p90 users.. pretty simple
sometimes you can't but if you can
mild ore
And became a META for now.
wind scroll
But it still can be used to get kills
long hedge
Youki it does 22 damage on uncommon
long hedge
Also buff tommygun to 18 dmg epic 16rare 14uncommon 12common
Or just add damage dropoff with a damage buff
Its just useless most of the time
I only use it to kill knocked people in 50v50
austere bane
buff P90 its pretty weak
austere bane
its DPS is bad
full marsh
In my opinion p90 is too buff. Reducing firerate would balance it and make me lag LA
Ess when using it
winter schooner
They really need to do something with the mini gun now the the p90 is here. Is basically the same but more damage
I think they just need to change it completely
Or remove it
supple frigate
Minigun = free ammo though
rigid orchid
And tommy guns as well
winter schooner
True
rigid orchid
@trail sorrel There are Common and Uncommon Tommy Guns, however the blue and purple ones are found more often; they're working on that
bold raven
p90 is probs common so people get to use i
teal ravine
I'm only finding ultra P90s
tropic osprey
When you find 3 half- sheilds in one chest?
rigid orchid
Rip
regal isle
tommy needs a HUGE buff. the purple tommy gun does the same damage as a gray AR, and before the p90 was added, the grey tommy gun was the lowest damage weapon in the entire game.
clear wren
I agree with random
hexed barn
Mabe
but it's got a high ammo capacity, and high ROF
but I think they should make it an unique AR, so it's AOE is as far as in AR's
clear wren
I only like the tommy gun in the beginning of the game, because it has a lot of ammo, and it is decently fast
winter schooner
Yeah
tropic osprey
could you buff the P90 range or damage, i dont care
tropic osprey
how?
tropic osprey
you waste so many bullets though
grizzled quail
if you miss
tropic osprey
that do 3-4 damage
grizzled quail
if you're up close and getting your shots you can demolish someone
the speed that it shoots is so good
buffing damage would make it op
tropic osprey
i would rather use a tommy-gun than P90
tropic osprey
um, P90 iz for tryhards 😢
tropic osprey
it would be good with aim-bot
grizzled quail
yeah but i dont use aimbot
the fact of the matter is, the gun shoots fast and shoots a lot of bullets which makes up for the damage
if you cant aim, dont use it
tropic osprey
but the P90 is like a minigun, but less of a mag and less damage, how do you type so fast
grizzled quail
i dunno im used to typing
tropic osprey
put mor damage
tropic osprey
lol
grizzled quail
shoots faster, does less damage
what do you not understand
guns are designed with different play styles in mind
the shotgun is for people who like close combat
stuff like that
grizzled quail
i suck at the minigun, but it doesnt suck
tropic osprey
lol
winter schooner
I don’t get how in weapons race it sometimes justs put you into a random server where a guy already has 36 kills
So there’s no way to win
Basically
Or is that just a bug?
cobalt zephyr
Idk lol
cobalt zephyr
Omg same
livid plume
Ikr
cobalt zephyr
What is weapon race
livid plume
It is when u spawn with a gun and then if u keep killing someone with that gun you upgrade to better guns to win u most have a lot of kills
livid plume
Yea basically
livid plume
I did refresh I still have 50vs50
normal drum
weird
livid plume
I had it for like 3 times I a row
grizzled quail
@winter schooner wait till next round
acoustic crypt
Uhh I want them to make the P90 damage more balance
sharp lily
its 9 or 8
acoustic crypt
So we need it around 10 to 12
And per shot is slower
I mean time each shot
Aka 0.36 second
sharp lily
11 at close
brave tangle
The fire rate makes up for the damage
acoustic crypt
I like the VSS
It has 10 shot,far range,fast fire rate but the only thing is it’s not buffed
The damage is around 27 so we could buff it’s damage to 34
So mythic main sniper will DIE
Oh yeah go to Asia voice chat now
We will see what is wrong
cobalt zephyr
I like using sniper weapons, it's just that i'm a noob I get alotta damage because the person I'm killing always has a pistol so I receive more damage. ether way it works out fine
cobalt zephyr
(okay lol)
bold raven
(Okay thanks)
cunning stream
how about adding a different hotkey for left handed people? I use arrows and its very hard to loot stuff since I have my left hand on the mouse, make it right ctrl or right shift or space
I dont know if this is a suggestion or not
marsh ivy
You can use the wasd
cunning stream
nope
I cant
im used to arrows and wasd is too hard for me + I cant use mouse by my right hand
bold raven
i see what you mean and thats actually important
cunning stream
how about making some snipers move in a speedier shot, rn its so slow, sniper bullets are supposed to be lightning quick
bold raven
Like the vss?
jade badger
dodging a sniper bullet and then counter attacking would be kinda op
cobalt zephyr
snipers would be pretty op if they had fast bullet speed
jade badger
it annoys me that snipers aren't one shot lol u have to hit them two times even if they have no shield ;/
cobalt zephyr
yes lol even with a mythic bolt
only does like 80 dmg :/
I guess they didn’t want the snipers to be an op factor in the game, but I can kinda see why
cunning stream
either make the mythic and legendary snipers a 1 shot kill, or make all snipers have increased bullet speeds
because rn snipers are basically useless
they're one of the worst weapons
cobalt zephyr
ehh
mainly I will just use my sniper then switch to a different weapon in long-mid range
regal isle
snipers are actually really good
cunning stream
thats if ur really good at them
and practised alot
other than that
its literally horrible
cobalt zephyr
I think vss is the best
cunning stream
my fav weapon is the P90
cobalt zephyr
it’s like the one sniper which can be used in most ranges and situations
cunning stream
the p90 is really good
cobalt zephyr
yeah it’s quite balanced as well, which is the good thing
super high fire rate but low damage
cunning stream
honestly im good at calculating where people move and when the bullets would reach them, so this weapon is literally my savior
@cobalt zephyr and scattered bullets too
cobalt zephyr
yep
Yeah that’s called tracking dude where you’re good at calculating people’s movement
scattered bullets is the spread
mini gun has no purpose in the game now negl because of the p90
cunning stream
yes
the minigun is good but
the 1-2 seconds it takes to fire the bullets can kill u
cunning stream
atleast its realistic
cobalt zephyr
but it’s bad since most fights are fast-paced
cunning stream
yeah
its good at the beginning of the game
where people are everywhere and you want to snipe someone
cobalt zephyr
yea lol
uncut ridge
hazy fulcrum
eh Mythic mp5k Total shred.
naive drum
AR-15 and Pump have the highest DPS, both with their own downfalls of course. The AR-15 has very high bullet spread, (at close range won't matter too much), Pump has time in between shots and knocks the opponent back a lot. You can decide for yourself which weapon is best at each range with this stat chart! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nr958qg4bfmHjue73CgMZZNVU4gdompfrld1B3IeRx0/edit#gid=0
(Not updated to include the P90)
cobalt zephyr
@naive drum thanks for this form :D
naive drum
np ❤
grizzled quail
@jade badger dodging a bullet and counter attacking is not op, if the player made a mistake they deserve to be punished for it, thats how games work
snipers are supposed to be high risk high reward. you fail the shot you get shot, but if you hit you get a lot of damage.
Same with shotguns, high risk high reward. you get up close and are easier to get hit, but you deal a lot of damage if you shoot them. how is counter attacking op? its a part of all fps games
jade badger
but no one can hit all their shots
tbh snipers should be one shot it's meant to be realistic u can't do like 72 dmg or however much it is
just my thoughts
craggy osprey
If snipers are one shot then that would be too op in other io games snipers are not one shot...
Plus it would be pretty unfair if a player is unaware and a sniper takes em out shields and all
jade badger
by one shot i dont't mean 200 damage it should be 100 dmg
craggy osprey
The bolt action is gud damage...
cobalt zephyr
Hi
regal isle
bolt action is balanced
craggy osprey
Yes
cobalt zephyr
Kann jemand deutsch
hybrid elm
;-;
craggy osprey
But increasing the damage of a sniper to 100 would still be op because it would not give players who just dropped of the plane a chance...
tropic osprey
lol, sniped when your 2 seconds in
craggy osprey
Rip
tropic osprey
get 0 xp
craggy osprey
And chance of streak ends
tropic osprey
then u rage and break your computer and rage some more
hybrid elm
oof
craggy osprey
Then u come to the server and rant on why the snipers are too op
cunning stream
Im posting this again because it got lost
please fix @native shale
how about adding a different hotkey for left handed people? I use arrows and its very hard to loot stuff since I have my left hand on the mouse, make it right ctrl or right shift or space
I dont know if this is a suggestion or not
@scarlet bone
native shale
key binds are planned to come to the game
grizzled quail
I feel really bad for all left handed people that play games.
cunning stream
I do pretty good too but when it comes to fast reactions I just cant manage
bronze marten
lower the spawn rate of the p90
cunning stream
make potions take longer to drink but also make you able to walk while drinking them (only 50% of normal speed)
because I mean who can drink what looks like a 1 liter bottle of potion in 5 seconds?
hazy fulcrum
well the same can be said for fortnite.
wind scroll
The game is meant to be quick so they made it 5 seconds
hazy fulcrum
yea. every game i foughtwas at most 6 mins
thin flower
Buff the bolt please. You can probably make the mythic 150 dmg | the legendary, 140 | epic would be 130 | rare would be 120 | uncommon 110 | common 100. Also you can remove uncommon and common so you dont get a one shot weapon so easily
marble tulip
the vss should get a slight damage buff and have a lower fire rate
it just doesnt feel like a sniper, more like an ar
bold raven
ITs ment to be like a ninja silent yet deadly
And stop saying BUff the bolt
Its already preety good
i hit 80% of my shots and i find it VERY useful
#madcausebad
cobalt zephyr
the tommy gun needs a buff
bold raven
Agreed
marble tulip
oh wow people actually liked my first suggestion lol
i feel like the bolt is balanced
i feel its meant to get that first hit to lower their health and then rush in with another automatic gun
because of the pretty fast move speed, it isnt meant to camp for a long time out of people's fov and hit them
but what do i know im a level 14 without the battle pass lol
bold raven
Yep
marble tulip
tHeN rEMOve tHe vSs
bold raven
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fUnNy
acoustic crypt
lol
rustic arch
The bolts prob strong enough
It's for getting that first hit not like a one shot lol
acoustic crypt
But it’s still 360 degrees noscope
I want them like do something like we have scope to see like a bush,etc...far away
acoustic crypt
I want 2 d!e
bold raven
Why
charred skiff
@acoustic crypt if u mean by the scope idea a First Person Perspective it whould not be practical as they whould need to make a whole 3D world just for the scope
.-.
And
Its a 2d game
Not Fortnite, H1Z1 or PUBG
Or Mc Hunger Games
regal isle
scopes arent gonna happen, its a 2d game it wouldnt work
charred skiff
I said that...
regal isle
ok lol
winter schooner
My idea wa binoculars, where when using them in a certain direction it moves your person to the opposite side of the screen so you can see farther in that direction
^was
bronze cliff
IMO Bolt-action should
zoom you out as it does now
but zoom you out like 1.5x more than current
so you can sit in a tree and pick on unsuspecting players and such
winter schooner
@bronze cliff #suggestions
mortal flare
@scarlet bone I suggest you guys revamp the SCAR, Rocket Launcher, Semi-Auto Sniper, Burst Pistol, And VSS
acoustic crypt
But speaking to this I remember that scoped AR
brazen hedge
VSS doesnt need revamping
its already too OP
i got killed by a noob spamming it at me
cunning stream
smh I hate how people call people who beat them "noobs" or "lucky"
just accept the fact that you lost
vast sphinx
You forgot the other callout, "Hacker!1!!1!"
cunning stream
hacker is rare
only kids use it
adults use noob or lucky
or not adults
teenagers
lets not go offtopic lol
tawny mortar
Lmao, I killed like 10 people in 50vs50 at once and they were all knocked and 2 of them called me a noob
I was like 
craggy osprey
50 v 50 is back?
unkempt mirage
throwing nades in 50v50 👏
vast sphinx
Nades throwing you in 50v50 👏
teal ravine
them MEMES 👏
bold raven
Meme Review!👏
Pig power Stop hacking
Your Not allowed to use that Power i gave you
I told you, only use it to Carry Divine and make yourself look good.
jade badger
no
analog cliff
Add grenade launcher
analog cliff
oh and also, anyone know when building will be fininished
cunning stream
idk
analog cliff
it was pretty god in that 50v50
gud
now with more material types
it should be better
mortal flare
May you please revamp the SCAR, Rocket Launcher, Semi-Auto Sniper, Burst Pistol, and VSS
@cobalt zephyr
?
cobalt zephyr
its not my decision i just help the devs moderate discord and help convey info to them
ill ask
mortal flare
Okay
rigid orchid
@mortal flare Why tho
mortal flare
I just want cooler looks for them @rigid orchid
rigid orchid
So a visual revamp
river pebble
winter schooner
Unfortunately
vast sphinx
Risk/Reward
You can kill your enemy but at a price
So you're asking the cactus grenade has damage to yourself removed?
naive drum
@cobalt zephyr it insta kills anybody stuck in a house when you are outside, you throw it through window and move to the side. They take 150 dmg u take 0. I don't think they need a buff
naive drum
Have you tried throwing it into a house with somebody in it? I admit that's the only good time it's used for, so its not the best, but it's OP in that time so I think it's fine @cobalt zephyr
rigid orchid
If anyone does that I hide behind some kind of wall and I take literally no damage
naive drum
If u want ill show u what I mean when u get home later @cobalt zephyr. Because I don't think u get what I mean because u can make it so u don't take damage from it.
normal drum
just throw it though in a window and move to the side
well
i perfer normal grenades anyway
or rpg
rpg is great for squads
naive drum
Yes, currently grenades are the best, just don't think cactus needs a buff right now
normal drum
when they are rezing
naive drum
Yah
It's meant to be risk reward and can be amazing in situations. Wouldn't be a fun thing if u can spam it when in a house with someone
normal drum
but if you took no dmg it would be really op
naive drum
If u find normal nades, u take them over cactus, but it's a backup
It happens a couple times a game to a lot of people
I can help you out a bit when I get home if u want, gtg
solar pine
Cactus grenade is good
Risk and reward
If you use it right then you won’t get hurt
Such as throwing it into a building trough a window then moving behind a tree or a shrub to avoid getting hit
Or the space between windows
rigid orchid
Nerf VSS damage slightly please
brazen hedge
Automatic/ Assault Shotguns are too OP same with Mythic VSS, ruins end game battles. Just obliterates you.
solar pine
Yes
rocky cargo
Yeah. Even if i use them so much its op
solar pine
Range is a problem with the shotguns
hybrid elm
ye
brazen hedge
i keep losing to noobs spraying the VSS at me
solar pine
The range feels to long
brazen hedge
mythic vss to be precise
solar pine
Cause I’m getting sniped with a shotgun...
brazen hedge
i have more 2nd places than wins
rocky cargo
Actually vss isnt a big problem though
Sven add me in game
I can help you grt wins
brazen hedge
which is a big NONO
solar pine
I only have 13 total wins 👏
solar pine
Not bad
rocky cargo
I have about 200
solar pine
I just suck
brazen hedge
but i could have around 200
solar pine
I suck at the game
brazen hedge
if i didnt get cucked by the VSS/ switching mistakes
solar pine
So that would explain my wins
rocky cargo
My kill record in the game is 21
brazen hedge
mines 17 in solo
brazen hedge
i have 17 kills solo squads
rocky cargo
And 19 kill solo
brazen hedge
whats ur ig name
rocky cargo
Seijo
brazen hedge
rocky cargo
I will tell my code tomorrow
rocky cargo
Okay
solar pine
Desperate xDddDdDd
rocky cargo
I will add you tomorrow
brazen hedge
ok
solar pine
LOL
brazen hedge
then why did u ask me now? xd
rocky cargo
Cuz this channel is crowded af
You cant find someone you talked with about 2 hours later
brazen hedge
k
rocky cargo
Its very late in my place
brazen hedge
i always play late night games on EU which is around 3-5 AM there so theres like 50 people in game and like 40 noobs
so in a matter of seconds im top 10
rocky cargo
More like 40 bots
rocky cargo
They are really bots
craggy osprey
Yup
round fox
Hey, come team up with me in Zombs Royale and let's win some Battle Royale! You can download it here for iOS or Android: https://zombsroyale.io/mobile/download?r=LT%239355
craggy osprey
@round fox #looking-for-group-old plz thx!
pulsar mist
cobalt zephyr
@pulsar mist that's disabled for reasons like that.
deep gorge
Increase p90 damage by 1 or 2 and decrease the bps by a bit
solar pine
По
supple frigate
why
mortal flare
@deep gorge agreed
faint sundial
The epic tommy gun needs a buff
faint sundial
Without sheilds, it takes 10 bullets to kill with the blue tommy gun, and 10 bullets to kill with the epic tommy gun.
At least give it 12 damage per bullet so that it can kill in 9 bullets.
light lodge
In Weapon Race. Spawning too close to other players and we need a 1 sec spawn protection
deep gorge
YES!
noble rampart
or u can just get good kid
rigid orchid
Ikr my problem is there's nobody where I spawn
pseudo pumice
@scarlet bone can you add a report button for teaming
daring dagger