Compensation for Unfinished Album after so much effort

[devout elk]

3 sticker for gems offer should be returned.

Or all gems used in dragonverse draw the final days of album should be returned to those who could not finish the album.

Or one free twd dragon, or something, anything that shows the efforts made were noticed, to make up for players who tried and tried, and yet could not finish the album. Something to prove it was worth it even if one could not finish album, to feel like their efforts were acknowledged by the game.

Or change the dragonverse draw, the chances, the possible rewards in dragonverse draw, or some change of sorts.

Not finishing album because 1 sticker left, after all that work put in, only to leave with less than what someone started with, hopes crushed, all in vain? Sure there are a few rewards, a few orbs, but after believing, hoping to win, only to not win and complete album due to luck or not trying hard enough, it sucks.

It especially sucks for f2p players since gems are so difficult to collect in the first place [arena chests are not that often, and that is probably the main way most f2p hope to get some gems.

Really hope something is changed about the album.

[gleaming sail]

I think the LEAST they could do is return the gems spent.

Imagine saving months to get like 2k gems, and then spending them all in DVD at the end, only to get dupes and not complete the album.

(Just in case someone is about to say something privileged, not all people get Offerwall Tasks to get 100s or 1000s of gems)

[humble river]

Unfortunately they won't listen/do that thing, I missed 2 sticker album(priestess and baron) already (I was p2w). I quit the game but decided to come back again as a f2p, now I just accepted the fact that this game doesn't do anything to their players.

[gleaming sail]

Maybe they will listen one day, even a drop of water can make a hole in a rock if enough time has passed. 🙃

[fresh widget]

They are dumb to inhale the allegation made by their respective players where the pain we are suffering from this game
HCA-unfinished wasted 600+ gems
HFA-With one 5 star shiny card not risked the gem as the sufference occured during hca album
HDP-Had some diamonds finished it by risking 600+ gems for that one 5 star shiny card
HDB-Risked 2.3K gems and finished with this sick 5 star shiny card
Now this Hasn could not bare the patience risked the 800 gems and left it aside as it would take to 2.5k+gems

This result shows that the investment i had gathered all gems went to an flow in their pockets. (Around 4.4k gems ruined for this albums totally lol)
As this guys would not change any formalities to help regarding the album for the odd ones who suffers the pain deepen.

[sleek cloak]

Isnt this like asking a casino for a refund because you didnt win

[late wedge]

Yed by the beggining of next album If you don't finish previous one the revert to you all gems soent on DvD
Or simoly incorporate triole offer missing stickdrs with gems

[split anchor]

i think its meant to be a fun kids game so i dont think its supposed to be like a casino😭
-# and not winning aint fun lollll idk

[sleek cloak]

Its a pegi 7 and gems can be gotten f2p after saving from rushes, alliance chest and other methods and so it doesnt legally count for young kids

[sleek cloak]

The rng is meant to give dopamine i think

To make people continue playing

[dusty breach]

they would probably listen after the game is dying and the only have like 20,000 players left 🥀

[sleek cloak]

As long as they hit their revenue goals it doesnt matter that much

[dusty breach]

well i mean the only players left after the game falls would most likely be p2w players or players who spend on a daily basis
at least thats what i think

[gleaming sail]

It's not meant to be gambling.
That's just what they're turning it into.

If you wanna gamble (I don't) then don't convert a kids game to do that.

Unfortunately, SocialPoint is only one of the countless companies these days with these infested micro-transaction gambling-based mechanic games.
And no, just because everyone else is doing it doesn't make it okay.

If they really wanted their game to survive 10 more years, they would nurture customer loyalty by balancing the Paying Customers with the F2P customers, because in the end, all the Ads that F2P watch do make them money.
Instead, I feel that they want to milk this until it's dead (which might be in 1-3 years).

[gleaming sail]

Too little too late.

[sleek cloak]

Majority of games like this where you can trade all have gambling

Roblox is the biggest example for this by allowing games like pet simulator to put a 1/10,000 chance item in a £5 egg

Csgo has gambling (and many children play it because of a lot of parents are to stupid to supervise their kids)

Technically also arcades

[gleaming sail]

Unfortunately, SocialPoint is only one of the countless companies these days with these infested micro-transaction gambling-based mechanic games.
And no, just because everyone else is doing it doesn't make it okay.

That's why I said this. Even if the whole world did it, it still wouldn't be okay.
SP may be one of the thousands of companies who do it, but it is still wrong and will forever be wrong. I do not support the idea of gambling itself (not casinos or games or anything like that) since it is the very exploitation of hope.

There's no point in arguing or complaining because none of it changes unless the people change, which no one can expect anyone to.

[sleek cloak]

Never said it was ok, im saying that practically every child game has it, they havnt collapsed or lost money and will continue to do so and they wouldnt have to listen to suggestions like this one

Its investors that want profit and they usually have more control

[gleaming sail]

Ah, so you're saying I'm incorrect in my forecast of the company collapsing due to gambling since every company has gambling mechanics now and they are still functioning.

Perhaps.

I would like to think that for a game like DC, it might be a little different, but yeah, I think you might be right. The people who pay may always pay, and in the end, they are the ones that SP cares about, not the F2P who quit.

[sleek cloak]

People who pay has less incentive to quit aswell due to already spending money that they dont want to lose

[gleaming sail]

I hear that a lot, but it is this mindset of exploitation and greed that really drives people to make decisions like this. You see the same decisions across Big Companies.

I knew not to expect anything from SocialPoint once I realised they were acquired by TakeTwo (the company behind GTA). To become that level of profitable, you have to violate certain moral values, in my opinion.

It is naive to expect any of these companies to do better than the other, to care about anything but the bottom line. That is why I suggested people who pay to stop paying in protest until they listen to us (especially the big spenders).
But alas, we could not achieve anything since the people who pay do not care, and the people who care do not matter/pay enough.

[sleek cloak]

The most they would do for this suggestion is give a mythic or legandery egg to those that failed

[gleaming sail]

I think that only applies to a certain class of people who care about money.

Those who have a lot of money to burn likely wouldn't care and would just move on to another game and spend their money there.

[sleek cloak]

Maybe a normal heroic depending how much of the album was completed, basicslly things easy to get and have very little value compared to the £3-£20 per card thing

[sleek cloak]

Children generally do not have a lot of money and typically save from birthdays and Christmas if they gain any.

[gleaming sail]

Oh, I don't expect them to do anything. This is a minor suggestion.

They didn't do anything when maybe half of the playerbase complained about the stickers being rigged, why would they do anything about something that's surplus?

But hey, keep trying and maybe it's that one in a million chance that they do listen and give the players something good (like a Return Event).

[sleek cloak]

Stickers being rigged is necessary for them to retain an active playerbase as people will grind for crystals

[gleaming sail]

Oh I was talking about adults.

Yeah, children wouldn't, but the general idea there would likely be that they would get the money from their parents.

[sleek cloak]

People having a ton money to blow on multiple mobile games in this economy?

I heavily doubt someone would quit after spending a lot of money and no way to actually gain more for a different game

[tulip stratus]

gonna leave this here just in case

[gleaming sail]

I disagree with it being a necessity.

I believe that it should have been a better thought-out system.
They could've limited the number of sticker packs by placing them in the Heroic Race and events, for example.

[sleek cloak]

Just put that into a dm with someone that you talk to regularly

[tulip stratus]

i did, hes right above you

[tulip stratus]

rigging is fine if they acknowledged the rigging, they have done no such thing

[sleek cloak]

That still disables most people who dont spend 3+ hours a day on the game from getting it depending on the event

It would have to be more packs in maze, lower in tower and even lower in races

[gleaming sail]

You'd be surprised at how many of these people exist.

Anyway, I think if the big spenders and the average spenders banded together against SP's schenanigans, it would benefit everyone (P2W, P2P, and F2P).

[sleek cloak]

Mazes are fast, towers are slower and races take ages

[sleek cloak]

I doubt the community would be able to organize a boycott seeing how stupid people are in trading

[gleaming sail]

I mean that if you get all the Free Sticker Packs, you are guaranteed to complete the Sticker Album.

If you miss 1-5 packs, you have a 95% chance of completing it.
If you miss 6-10 packs, you have a 90% chance of completing it.

Something like that.

[gleaming sail]

Yes, then they get sued to oblivion. 🙈

[sleek cloak]

So you want a pity system

[tulip stratus]

its so easy, they can say some cards are obtainable at the later stages of the event and avoid all the rumors and paranoia

[sleek cloak]

Honestly, valid point

[gleaming sail]

I just want it to be more like the Insignia System which had a guarantee if you put it in effort.

With the sticker album, they count on you giving in to your impulse and buy the last sticker or two so that they can make money off you. The frustration builds up over time, so over multiple unsuccessful sticker albums, you either give in and buy it, or you quit (or you get the album completed which @tulip stratus showed could be 1/6 of a chance which might be too late normally).

[sleek cloak]

Im a month in, i dont know what that is but im gonna guess its like the collection thingies

[gleaming sail]

And adjust the Packs according to that.

They did give Shiny XXLs in Arena Rush in the first Album or two.
So they are capable of manipulating the mechanics when they want to. They probably figured that too many people completed the album that way and just got rid of that format due to that reason (hence why people want it back).

[gleaming sail]

It was like the current Return Event Collection (e.g. The HAE Collection that just ended), but longer, and it spanned 3 Divine Pass Seasons (14+27+27 days if I recall correctly).

[late wedge]

That's why they added imvite friend to win gems feature
🤣🤣🤣

[late wedge]

+70 days total in Insignias event
One Hvip and 2 Lvip ! [14+30+30]
And It was the best one compared to price/Value

[gleaming sail]

Back when the divine pass was half the price (at least that's around what I remember it being).

Just buy 3 passes, get guaranteed rewards, and a guaranteed skin (P2W could complete it early, F2P could complete it over time with resources and trading).

Those were the days, we just didn't know it yet.

[late wedge]

I started late these Hvip season 🥲 I missed a lot
It's okay

Sp literally can make improve
Now they just do reverse thing
Collection for return and stickrr album for new Hvip

I would suggest reverse things

[dusty breach]

yeah a lot of people hate that event, same as me, the rewards are bad
honestly, i have friends, but i dont want to torture them with this game 🤣

in fact, i bet my friends would quit before they get to level 7 😝

[gleaming sail]

That's just it, they "can" but they likely "won't".

Also, I personally rely on the guaranteed nature of the Insignia Collection system as well as the Return Events, so I wouldn't agree on it being Reversed.
Imagine the Return Event for HCA or HCS or HFA or HDP comes and it's a sticker album. You already went through that trauma once. The Return event has to be guaranteed otherwise it's all just worthless gambling mechanics.

If they're gonna make a change, better just make both Insignia like before.

[late wedge]

I mean the new Hvio season should be guaranteed and return with sticker album and diamond offer 👀

[gleaming sail]

I mean if it's the rigged sticker album then no for both the new VIP Heroic and the Return.

[gaunt imp]

Tried for 41 days -> can not complete because a "small" gap -> rage -> complain -> "This game is pay to win" -> silently carry on with the next album

Overall : Tried for 41 days -> silently carry on with the next album
They knew this well

[bleak coral]

ye this is the thing they know abt player, cause after every thing of complaining we just forget them and they take advantage that's all

[gleaming sail]

From what I have seen, more and more people have started to quit.

The trend might change enough for them to finally make a change at some point.

But yeah, no point in getting your hopes up.

[fresh widget]

Honestly this what happens to me .From this sick dvd and lost my control but at the end pet island gave the one i wanted after loosing the gems on dvd