HAE rerun event is dumb, you need to change the quests

[hoary coral]

We want EVADER quests not karma's. I have no idea why karma's are here for.

Change the beak of chaos requirement to 100 like it always was

And change the karma quests into evaders quests and nothing else.

Many people spent tons of resources on evaders because they thought they'll be the only family in the event (as they should be!)

Why is it a evader rerun event if it has almost nothing to do with evaders 💔

[weak whale]

X2, where is HAE and Tidings Quest?

[hoary coral]

I'm still confused why tidings is even in the evaders family lol

Here's another idea, just add more quests, you guys did this already with extractor and berserker return events.

I'm talking about those quests that need two dragons from the same family at once to complete, for example having to use onrush and havoc evader for one quest

[meager tundra]

Up

[tropic hatch]

I would say that they would HAVE TO make it so that all the Legendary Evaders (and repeat L Evader quests) all add up to 125 Insignia on their own, and those who have Karma, Tidings, and Elusion Evader can get additional rewards on top of that through their quests.

[void orchid]

you only need lvl 60 to complete the quest, this help a lot

W change

[meager tundra]

Not much but.. Well..

[supple portal]

But it would be better for 3 star at least since they do quest of new mvips etc so even joker orbs too wont be much(From my side point of view
@pliant panther
Hope team knows about this circumstances friend

[ruby sorrel]

And they dont do it

[tidal aspen]

Cuz SP is too lazy to do any work to make a new evader
so they just slot a random VIP and hope the community would shut up about it 😭

[pure idol]

@pliant panther plz look into this issue too🙏

[hard mist]

Yes, please do it @pliant panther if you can.. talk to the team

[pliant panther]

Hey there, I can reassure you that the feedback has been forwarded to the team and is being taken into account. Please remember that the event just started, and there are many weeks left to complete it. While I cannot promise anything, I can tell you that the team is keeping a close eye on how the event is going for our players

[hard mist]

Thank you for doing this.

There are certainly many weeks to complete the event, but the resources needed to empower and summon those required dragons is very large.

For new players, it is next to impossible to get karmas as well as evaders easily. Even if they did, getting joker orbs isn't easy. I am not taking the gems into consideration yet. Just understand, the amount of gems, joker orbs etc is too much.

[hidden mortar]

its fair considering we're getting a crazy skin and a lot of hee and hae orbs

[hard mist]

I have to spend 900 gems and heck a lot of joker orbs, are you crazy to think that it is enough?

[hoary coral]

It's not, why add karmas to an event for evaders? It doesn't make sense.

Everyone prepared their evaders thinking it's gonna be about evaders and the dev team decided that half the quests should be from some other random family

[hidden mortar]

i mean they both dodge attacks?? but it would make the quests much easier than they already are to have only 3 dragons e5 for a high value hvip and a skin as well

I dont understand why people think the quests are hard. Theyre generous enough to give you 8 quests with a max of e4 lvl 60 each giving you 22 beaks.

you technically need just the 3 evaders and 2 more karma
plus you'll get the rest from events and passes

you have one month to prepare for revival karma and you have some time to get fragmented karma dragon. Assuming you already had all your evaders prepared

[hoary coral]

"they both dodge attacks" that isn't a reason for KARMA family To participate in a EVADER rerun event.

Also they could have had 6 quests

4 for normal evaders

And 2 double evader quests. They literally did this for other reruns.

Needing E4 instead of 5 karma's is the only good change they did. Even then people still need to waste tons of M jorbs, food and gems on them (other then revival because for that one you at least have enough time)

[hidden mortar]

i mean hey, look at the bright side now. There is more karma orbs in circulation when the only way of getting them was Wizards Hollow

[tidal aspen]

Something called trading and chests exists btw 💔

also karma's were never rare nor demanded in the first place, fragmented was actually given for free a while ago and Ambition karma was free. And revival karma had a DVD a while ago

Plus the karma orbs in circulation are sometimes inflated 💀

[hidden mortar]

Since they were never rare and were given for free. It shouldn't be too hard to do the quests for them right ?

[tidal aspen]

they can be actually given for free from a lot of chests actually, and also from DTV gold chest. they are a pretty old family.

also in order to get a lot of beaks, you would need to get a dragon to level 60, whcih would take 69.85 million food
Repeat it 5 times, which would require you to get 349.25 million food just to get 22 beaks from each quest
that is a LOT of food, and considering players cannot get that much food in a short period of time, that is just overkill

Plus, Resources. you would need to empwoer them to e4, which would take 1200 Legendary or mythical joker orbs. You would also need to speed up empowerments a lot of the times, which would take a lot of gems

[steady whale]

Keeping close eye to see player expenditure chart/graohics If they get money or not.
Also 4 weeks for HEE and 4 karma quest [expecting 3 Lvip] requiere 1.2Joker heroic and 5K joker Mythical and +400M food
It's even Hard for advanced players to get all these ressources in 4 weeks

Also gems to skip empowering average 300 gems per VIP which means 1.2K gems !

[faint pond]

Bro u are talking complete nonsense not everybody has Karmas and this is supposed to be an Evader quest(Key word Evaderrr)

We don't have enough resource to empower and feed theses dragons let alone to get them level 60

Mind u ull need 69.85mil food just to get 1 dragon to level 60
How on earth are we suppose to get that much
So now we don't have enough joker orbs for theses dragon, no food and Gems to skip the empowerment

I feel like you just wanted to talk or maybe you a pay to win player that fails to realise the basics

You honestly killed my mood even more😠

[hidden mortar]

Honestly that's a skill issue. And I'm f2p

[faint pond]

I don't care whether your f2p or p2w

The point is, not everyone will be able to get their dragons to level 60 in time for the event.

So now, most people who prepared their Evaders will just watch the skin slip away.

[clever nova]

if you prepared your evaders, then you can get the skin 💀 its really that simple
the event is really easy

[faint pond]

Okay ill do my best then

[tropic hatch]

If it is indeed possible to get the Skin if you have all 3 Legendary Evaders ready, with the additional items from events, then the event could be fine.
I do not believe that that is the case however.

22+22+22=66 Insignia
125-66= 59 Insignia still left.

And no, I am not counting HEE as that is a VIP Heroic and Heroics are not required for Return Events as a general rule (if there was a Heroic that was acceptable, it was HAE as that's who the skin is for).

Let's not pretend that working on 3 Legendary dragons (6000 Orbs for Empowerment + 600 Orbs for summoning) is easy for F2P at a short time's notice. Most F2P don't have much to trade off if you want to make the trading argument (unless they get a lot of free orbs from people who donate).

Personally, I would've been fine with a generic 25% stat boost skin for 3 Legendary Evaders since this messed up Return that we got instead means that I get no Skin at all.

[clever nova]

why were you expecting to be able to complete the rerun with just three evaders? 3e5s has almost never been enough to complete it, you should have expected hee to be required

also we literally dont need e5 legendaries for this 😭 its LESS THAN 3K jorbs needed to get the three evaders e4
even hee e4 is just 890 jorbs
summons is another issue but if you didnt already own them then why did you expect to be able to complete the rerun anyway?

[simple fossil]

While hae rerun having karmas is stupid, this is by far the easiest rerun ever. Only 5 e4s (6k orbs) compared to usually 3 e5s & 1 e3/e4 (6640 to 7200)
Even without HEE, 3600 Ljorbs & 2400 Mjorbs if you had absolutely nothing.
And each quest gives 510 back
So the 6k is actually just 3450 jorbs (2070 Ljorbs & 1380 Mjorbs)
Assuming they are ALL e0

[clever nova]

you get 310 before the e4 part so you just need 2670 l jorbs and 1780 m jorbs 🤷‍♂️

[tropic hatch]

Ah, so you are saying that if it isn't broke, SP should definitely break it.
I entirely disagree with that ideology.
Return Collections have ALWAYS been the way that I wrote, to change it after all this time in such a major way was never going to be "justified".

HEE is a VIP Heroic itself. Why would it be required for another VIP Heroic's Return? (If ever, it should only be for its own Return)

The rest of your message does not warrant a response, I would call that privilege talk.

This conversation is over. Goodbye.

[clever nova]

how is me replying to you saying that you need 6k l jorbs that we actually need less than 3k "priviledge talk"?
either way like darkshadow said, even if you dont have hee, you only need one karma e4 (maybe a second one e2-e3 but even that i doubt)

[simple fossil]

Ig yea but if you get e4 you get a bunch of orbs back... either way its not hard.

[elfin elm]

yep, the event is not easy, we need to use a lot of resources

this event mostly rewards those (loyal) players who have played the game for a while and saved their resources for reruns like this and hope their predictions are right, otherwise they gotta spend some cash to meet the requirements

[tropic hatch]

Tell me, can you get all the Jokers as well as the trading orbs within the collection period as a F2P who has no Jokers, No Trading Orbs to exchange, no dragons already empowered except the Evaders, and No dOnAtEd orbs?

When you completely change the Return format out of the blue, you can not expect a F2P to adjust to it and get the required resources, only a P2W, that is why I said "privileged" (as it's either that or you can get orbs from others for free from a community or trade for everything because you have so much to offer).

[toxic elbow]

lowkenuinely if you have no jokers, no trading orbs, then ts rerun events aint for u

[simple fossil]

If you had the 3 L evaders maxed (which anyone would know is not enough), then theres 1530 tradable orbs right there. And if your a f2p with no jorbs and no trading fodder, then are you even playing the game?

[minor mural]

no jokers and no trading orbs? what are you even doing in the game?

[tropic hatch]

It looks like it all blends together then.
No point in responding to anyone who defends greedy companies.
(FYI, I was preparing for a Return, just not for Heroic Evaders or Mythical Karmas. Thanks to all who judge as if they know everything, Spoiler - You don't).

Go ahead and believe what you want to.

[clever nova]

im thinking the same thing as what everyone else said... if you had no jokers or trading orbs then you couldnt have done this rerun anyway 💀

[toxic elbow]

i mean from now on atl you know
you cant have nothing and expect a free rerun

[night locust]

I wonder if these people still think this is a bad return the quest dragons literally got TRIBUTED TIMERS

[tiny sparrow]

They did? Thats actually great for tmr then

[pliant panther]

Hello Dragon Masters! After bringing your feedback to the attention of the team, I'm happy to inform you that Hatching and Empower times have now been reduced to Tribute Levels for the dragons needed in these Quests! #📣│info-drops

[night locust]

Now we need a reduction on shiny sidekick empowering for people with hall of fame pass, could you pass that to the team please?

Also you forgot to star react your message so it won't appear in #📣│info-drops

[pliant panther]

I'm passing all feedback, but I cannot promise you that all suggesions will be implemented!

[night locust]

I wonder why the message didn't go in info drops
You should try copy pasting this in general and starring it there

[pliant panther]

Maybe I'm missing a permission!

I'll just copy paste 🙂

[clever nova]

THANK YOU SO MUCH
THIS IS SUCH A GREAT HELP

[meager tundra]

Hello, I have a little question for the quests of HAE, they will not add proof of High Tindings?

[tiny sparrow]

High Tidings is not really an evader so the chance he'll be included as a quest is like next to zero. He's just in evader team boost to give HEE hp

[brazen fog]

How if i already empower that got reduce?

[meager tundra]

So it wouldn't make so much sense why they introduced him to that team if don't have anything related to them

[tiny sparrow]

Its just now empowering tribute speed boost rn for rerun. Gem purchases are considered permanent anyway regardless of misclick so there'd very likely be no repayment for gems if you gemmed empowerment beforehand.

[hard mist]

Thank you for listening to me and others on this matter.

This will truly help us a lot, and we can save a lot of gems in this process.

[brazen fog]

I mean empower in the process will get reduce or no

[night locust]

No
Only those that were activated after tribute took place got reduced timers