#👶beginner-help

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serene crystal
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First just do the early story chapters which are the only thing that is possible at this point, then you unlock growth regimen and can follow that.

frozen crypt
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!faq lost

small willowBOT
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Feeling Lost?

I got this, Captain! AichanLol

The following guides are a good starting point to help you feel like you know what you're supposed to be doing as Captain of the Hyperion!

See the channel pins of #👶beginner-help for more:

frozen crypt
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this might help as you get into it

wet minnow
serene crystal
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Some early teams

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Honkai shards and phase shifters should be the main mats which you want to be careful with spending early on.

wet minnow
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kay

vernal ivy
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This week memorial arena is kinda Despairge

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Sw on first boss than freeze/ice on the other two smhMyHead

serene crystal
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?? Sampo wants paralyze

terse iris
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hi is this one good to pull and complete? im kinda new to the game. i read if i dont pull her weapon and stigmatas she'll be bad ?

ancient needle
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!faq pull

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ancient needle
# small willow

If you are to pull from Starter according to this I'd go for Badum, FDD won't be super useful for you in the near future

terse iris
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ooh nice tips tysm

terse iris
ancient needle
ancient needle
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Supply -> Shop -> Activity Shop -> War Treasury

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Get her to S2 rank after you get her

terse iris
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ooh

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tysm again

keen trench
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Does this sushang have a 3d model i cant find it anywhere

keen trench
lyric anvil
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It's her newest one

craggy inlet
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Hi. I was wondering what should I get first for my Immutable Crystallum. I have a weaponless JDS from previous patch event. This patch event will also grant also grant free Sena. I should be at 20 Crystallum soon with BP, so I could get either of the weapons.
I was thinking getting JDS weapon first because it's time limited, while Sena's one can be bought at any point.
But maybe I'm missing something with the priorities?
Still having very few P2 valks, so filling my roster feels like something I should focus on.

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This is what I'm currently at... JDS, VBs, and HoH are weaponless for now. I was planning to ||pull for HoH DLC later in the patch||.

lyric anvil
craggy inlet
lyric anvil
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Yeah, save your crystallum for certain weapons in reserve works
Let me grab a list

craggy inlet
lyric anvil
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Abyss Flower and Fenghuang down also have foundry counterparts named Abyss and Fenghuang Pinions so make sure to craft those before getting Abyss flower and Fenghuang Down

amber swift
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im ten pulls away from getting an astral op (not sure when i pulled for it but ive never gotten one before so maybe it was over time (?)) is there one thats better than the others?

ancient needle
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But that's only if you frequently are in Nirvana

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Cuz below that they aren't worth

amber swift
ancient needle
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Well, S Youyun is pretty bad

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If you insist on getting one wait for smth else

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Actually, hold on

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How many crystals do you have rn? And what's your P2 valk roster

ancient needle
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Too broke unfortunately

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Gotta save for next patch

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I was thinking whether SS YY was a consideration in your case

amber swift
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oki

uncut delta
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Just get s now

uncut delta
amber swift
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wasnt planning on it why

uncut delta
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She’s in dkey bronyas best team

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And you don’t have s rank coralie either

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Do you have songque astral op

rotund roost
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what are the dkeys on reserve works again

shell basin
shell basin
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because judah is also in exchange shop

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so no need to waste crystallum

slim blaze
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Man

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I could be optimizing event

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But im stuck at work!!!

gilded gazelle
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is there any way to set ingame language on first launch?
I live in germany, so the text is in german and I want to change that to english, I know about the language, that's fine and I know I can change language after tutorial in the main menu, but is there a way to set the language to english before I launch the game for the first time?

kind cliff
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What's extreme and dominance weather? (I forgot AponiaDerpNggt)

lone crater
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extreme = goi, dominance = summon

slim blaze
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Whats the most profitable item today? Gamepad?

slim blaze
prisma oyster
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whats the best team to use for this abyss ?

serene crystal
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Probably FDD,PAWS,VBm here.

prisma oyster
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its over for me SeeleUwU

serene crystal
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You only have one fire dps and no quantum valks so should be pretty simple.

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I do not expect a lot of people in RL to have TFM so you should be fine with FDD dps.

prisma oyster
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not my bracket apparently

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i think im the only one who use fdd here LOL well ggs

slim blaze
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man 800k

spring kestrel
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What best team i can make for this round abyss

covert estuary
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Currently, Vita is on the returnee banner and I wanted to snag her because I've heard shes pretty good. But I've also heard that backpulling units in this game isnt very good from multiple sources. Do I just not get vita or is she an exception?

young egret
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does the miss espionage rita phantoms benefit from signets of infinity?

quick birch
quick birch
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you'll struggle with the HC at the beginning a bit but besides that should be fine

spring kestrel
slim blaze
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Me using calculus to optimize event

mortal sluice
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Chat I have a question for the sparkle shill this abyss my best team would be sparkle vita SW due to fast HC yes or no? HoSHmm AponiaDerpNggt MobiusDerpNggt

slim blaze
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ok so tomorrow is probably umbrella and gamepad again lel

slim blaze
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nvm

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or horb?

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cuz these are some of the nirv teams with sporkle dps

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i'm seeing tons of HoRB LP

mortal sluice
slim blaze
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or HoRB SW

mortal sluice
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I’ll try sparkle sw horb, sparkle sw vita, sparkle horb vita then out of curiosity HoSHmm my sparkle ss1 and my vita ss3

slim blaze
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less whale option

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S2 HoRB and S2 LP

mortal sluice
slim blaze
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im leaning towards horb vita because SS3

icy fractal
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guys i am going to start hi3 after 8 years again from 0 cant enter my old acc somehow but anyways are there events or something i should do as a beginnner before just spamming main story ? also save pulls or pull for someone rn ?

glass coral
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Also dont spend crystals on dorm

serene crystal
icy fractal
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ty guys appreciate the help

minor dawn
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Simp (weaponless) or fdd in this abyss,

slim blaze
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but otherwise pretty solid advice

minor dawn
icy fractal
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so who would you pull for from new units skip current banners and save for a new one ?

icy fractal
safe yew
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guys is there a tutorial for silverwings new dk?

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like a guide on how to team rotate?

serene crystal
minor dawn
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Should i stall for dodges before astral ring activation when using fdd with the abyss boss?

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Wth is this abyss

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I always was able to bruteforce things but this one is hard

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Or is it bcs i got to agony 3

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# minor dawn Or is it bcs i got to agony 3

going into a higher tier will certainly increase the enemy's bulk in exchange for greater rewards. the higher you go the less you'll be able to bruteforce and the more you'll need to use proper answers and play properly

but also this cycle is a quantum boss. They gain huge damage reduction until they are fully collapsed. In some cases like lower tiers or certain phases of certain enemies, you can brute through this damage reduction, but otherwise you will want to find ways to fully collapse them.

minor dawn
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if you understand how to collapse them you can actually handle many quantum scenarios without their primary dps for lower tiers.

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that doesn't make sense to me

minor dawn
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Like colapse with simp then dmg with fdd

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yeah i understand but

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FDD is an RoO leader. That sort of leader generally wants only RoO valks (or in FDD's case she has other effects to compensate when PAWS is on the team)

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putting a non matching valk will severely drop her damage otherwise

minor dawn
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Hmm

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I used ffd paws and vita but fdd died

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and while SIMP will let you collapse the boss a bit sooner, you will need to consider if that drop in damage is worth the quicker collapse

minor dawn
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I got 3614 out of that

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if you're dying and losing all your hp then that's a separate issue

minor dawn
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some bosses or enemies can hit quite hard or some valks can be more vulnerable than others but generally with enough resets and proper playing you should be able to get through a fight without dying

minor dawn
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Here’s my roster if it helps

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weaponless simp prob means you won't use her as a dps but maybe she can support other teams (She can support WS and WoD leads mainly)

minor dawn
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hm

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and well as much as i say simp supporting FDD sounds bad on paper, give it a try anyway if you have the time

minor dawn
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Alrr thanks for the suggestions

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For the collapse i dodge when i hear the sound right?

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yeah

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Maybe do a scout run and see how much damage FDD can deal with a full outburst while the boss is collapsed. You want to maximize your outburst usually

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once you know how much you can deal (let's say 5/8 bars of hp), you can aim to deal the remaining (3/8 bars of hp) damage while the boss is still non-collapsed.

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and maybe waiting the remaining time out without using FDD's actions that would slow down the boss (enhanced WA mainly).

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i misread and thought you were merely asking if the sound denotes it's a move you want to dodge for collapse

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kosma in particular has a laser attack, or a jumping tail swipe that can happen when he's already on ground or when he sinks below ground iirc? but you want to evade against the actual hitbox of the attack which might be a bit delayed from the sound effect timing

minor dawn
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Figured that out mid fight i did some retries but i managed to collapse with the first two opportunities got a 3614

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you're free to also record a fight and show us how it's like

minor dawn
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i don't really have a direct example of fighting kosma with non primary answers but you can loosely refer to these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_Eb7qUu94

Honkai Impact 3rd Redlotus Abyss 490D Resonance Vita 775
S0+1 Sena 1450 atk
S0+1 Vita 1458 atk
S2+1 HoFi 1495 atk (this doesn't matter, she doesn't do any damage anyways)

Notes
That sync 3 hofi is too strong xerorb theres no chance anyone can even follow that ref
Run overkills on purpose so people can follow it more easily. The score can be im...

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the concept is pretty much the same, albeit these bosses are more forgiving and give you their collapse attacks early. Kosma is not so nice will give it to you late

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but you can see how while they were waiting for the collapse moves they were still doing other actions like setting up buffs or still getting some damage, then once the collapse is fully done they go all in

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hm i thought there was a cope video from someone else with FDD vs Super Tonatiuh but i can't find it

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as far as FDD dps goes, keep in mind you can hold on to certain actions until later like an enhanced WA or an ult https://youtu.be/gXzvqzQtm7M?t=100

Honkai Impact 3rd Nirvana Herrscher of Ice (Ignite) 774 Pts - FDD(S0+1), PA(S0+1), LP(S0+1)
Chenxue SSS

0:00 - Gear
0:29 - Run

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BGM : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-PYBily0w, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bgXpdotpeM

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i'm not sure how effective that idea is to apply here to kosma though

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hitcount phase can definitely use some work. Don't rely on FDD's regular sequence to handle it.

  • Learn to apply some of Vita's basic 2 cancels (jump as soon as the second basic starts. You only get two jumps though. Any more after will have to be other actions like evading)
  • and maybe QTE in Helia to refresh her buff (stig 3 pc) effect towards the end of the hitcount phase. The QTE is a good rate of hitcount over time. You triggered the 3pc buff initially at 4 ingame time at top right, but by the time kosma is vulnerable at 30 or so, it's already all gone (it only lasts 25s or so)
  • if you have to use FDD, then maybe try non enhanced weapon active spams but i think you can try omitting FDD entirely until kosma is vulnerable
  • vita's hold fist attack is debatable here. It's slow but it does give you a lot of astral ring energy if you're looking to double outburst this fight.
    • while you aren't able to finish the fight with a full power second outburst, i feel the value of the first outburst may not be that good though since you're dealing reduced damage and slowing down the boss with it.
    • overall i'm not going to know what the true answer is. You'll have to try out both ways. One being as you already are doing with Vita hold attack and double outburst, and another where you ignore the vita hold attack, and hold on to outburst until full collapse.
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as for evading his attacks, take the time to observe and understand kosma attack patterns and sequences. It's a bit random within a limited pool but he always does the collapse attack at a certain point (and gives you another one if you miss the initial one). If you anticipate a collapse move soon, then maybe purposely stop attacking so you can actually evade it.

however for this particular case i do think it was fair for you to miss it to delay it since you were still recharging ARI for your second outburst

serene crystal
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Don't you need the hold ATK for SP to ult on LP in RoO?

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i think you can prob just stay on LP to basic to get enough sp over the course of the hitcount phase

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but the hold attack does restore a notable amount otherwise if you have no other way

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https://youtu.be/d6_-SZigGr0?t=239 you can prob refer to this for how they were canceling their second basic attack to go through the hitcount

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solar reef
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I returned after a Long Time and wanna ask, are all Part 2 Units usable or Not?

serene crystal
shell basin
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^

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As of right now every p2 character has at least one boss but some of them like JDS and Sena are on life support if you don’t have them ranked

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With other options scoring similarly or requiring specific supports

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And older valks rarely have their bosses run

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But there’s not been any outright replacement for p2 yet

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Unless we count VBS

solar reef
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So ig i shouldnt aim for thelema or lantern then💔

minor dawn
shell basin
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So if you can get them it’s a different story since you won’t be spending crystals

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Lamp is still in paid bpass iirc

solar reef
serene crystal
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Not really.

shell basin
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Not rn. Thelema has a free giveaway back 3 patches ago

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But rn the free valk this patch is senadina

solar reef
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I seeLanternHeavyThoughts

shell basin
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They’ll both enter reserve works eventually if they don’t get a giveaway sooner but it’ll be a bit

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Most likely

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minor dawn
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also tutorials give you access to them as trial valks

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the last stage of tutorials even lets you play with them as much as you want usually

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attack > events tab > tactics class

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minor dawn
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That too! Just that realm lets you shake up teams , i was pretty sad i couldn’t get ely so i kept replaying her stageSeeleUwU

tulip sky
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Badum vs S Coralie; who would be better for a newbie like me?

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frigid osprey
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yeah lower tiers are generally more slack and other people will struggle similarly for qua

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i'm more just yapping for your foundational knowledge for future similar scenarios

tulip sky
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I’m guessing Coralie then

minor dawn
shell basin
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If you like one of them more that’d be a solid reason to pick that one

tulip sky
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I was attempting to pull Helia but I just realized that Badum was on starter banner so I was asking

shell basin
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Meta wise both are better than paws but if you like paws she’s not useless

frigid osprey
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They can also both work with paws if you like her :))

minor dawn
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ah yeah lol

minor dawn
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Well i do hope someone new is quantum soon enough

minor dawn
tulip sky
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No I know she’s a rerun

minor dawn
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Okkk

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yeah keep in mind reruns are generally not good long term meta value in this game

tulip sky
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Being new I just don’t know who to go for/wait for

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ideally you only pull new releases, although if you're fresh it can be valid to pull a bit inefficiently just to put together teams sooner

tulip sky
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I did get Silverwing weapon since I had her

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then you can prob just sit tight for now and wait for next patch

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check pins for tons of general info including pull recommendations

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!faq pull

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f2p gacha income is limited, and meta is a big influence on crystal income

so generally speaking this is why recommendations are often long term and meta focused

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if you save and pull appropriately you can achieve most of the roster and get to the semifinal tier of the meta for most of its rewards pretty consistently

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regal marten
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how many pulls did it take you to get silverwing's weapon?

tulip sky
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I still have a ton of resources to get

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hm how would you feel about restarting a new account? (more details in the pins) Not required but it sounds your start is quite lackluster

minor dawn
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tbh you should expect to pull to pity when planning pulls. We don't have 50/50s so it's not too unreasonable. Any earlier than that can be more appreciated aas a bonus

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SW is farmable eventually

tulip sky
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we don't have to consider restarting but tell me what these S rank valks are

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at any rate i wouldn't want to sink another potential 60 rolls just to get an older valk like FDD or FWS at this point. Maybe cut your loss and save up for something new from this point

tulip sky
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HoHE Elysia and Serenade Kallen from messing with dorm supply discounts

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i'm only saying to restart btw. Rerolling is a further step you can consider from there

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yeah well both of those are farmable as well in war treasury

tulip sky
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Plus free HoV/Jade Knight/Azure Fu Ha

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those are always free

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and farmable

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beginner event gives JK valk and AE's weapon

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HoV is from beginner logins

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the main justification is if you don't want to spend the time redoing progress to better capitalize on starting resources

tulip sky
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And then a selector let me have Silverwing

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or if you don't want to use a different hoyo account that would separate you from your other games on the same account

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hm that selector you may not be able to regain but again SW herself is farmable

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valk selectors in this game are never for anything new or highly meta relevant

tulip sky
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Idk I kind of don’t want to go through all the stages again

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fair enough

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sorry if it seems i was pressuring you. I just want to make sure you were informed before proceeding

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but nothing wrong with continuing so long as you understand

tulip sky
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No worries

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I’m a HSR vet who doles out the same information to newbies

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weapons are also important in this game. They're similar in HSR where they can be a roughly 30-40% dps increase in personal damage but the extent of that influence is different in this game because you're actually contesting other players for high scores, and not just looking to clear an arbitrary goal point like 10 cycles or 6600 points or something

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and with that stated, i generally recommend people to stay away from making relations to other hoyo games because this game is so much older and alot of attempts can lead to costly and faulty conclusions

tulip sky
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Fair point

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for now since you have SW and her weapon you'll prob use her with VBm Coralie. I'm not 100% sure for the third slot (edit: until you get free sena). You can consider VBs helia (valkyrie boltstorm)/pardofelis (reverist calico)/shigure kira (sugary starburst)/Jade Knight Sushang

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maybe for simplicity you can consider VBs for now. She technically fits with the team but her issue is that alot of her effects boosts specifically lightning damage when SW is ice dps. Keep investment on VBs light (just A rank and some cheap equipment are enough). Main action she'll do is QTE > weapon active into her aim mode > lob the grenade to trigger her team elemental damage boost effect

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there's more i can say about the rest of the team too but i don't want to overwhelm you. Lmk if you want to move on, or what else you want to know, or if you want a break for now and explore on your own

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main advice i have for the last idea is to be conservative. Try not to spend crystals, honkai shards, source prisms (can spend the latter two on SW). Those are prob your most important resources.

minor dawn
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Like if there is a game to not goof off while playing it’s this one and not just in pulls materials too

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I kinda see it but (edit: also i'm sure there's points to debate) and overall i rather not get too deep into the topic of comparisons.

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And really meta doesn't have to be everything in hi3. As we were saying earlier with trial valks in various modes, you can take a very casual approach to the game if you really wanted to

vague turtle
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who is good in elysian realm cuz HLE is shit now lol

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dark eagle
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Guys is it better to install hi3rd on the c drive OS or d drive

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D drive is 1.86 TB

raven bane
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i am assuming your d drive is an hdd

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and your c is an ssd

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ssds are faster

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but yeah prob whatever that is an ssd

dark eagle
raven bane
craggy nimbus
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Hi the last time I actively played this game was around 2019-2020 could andybody please help me with building a team?

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Id like to post my roster but I dont have picture perms unfortunately

serene crystal
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The game is pretty niche heavy so what are you trying to make a team for?

ancient needle
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The valks you have are extremely old

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And are farmable

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You'll struggle with new mats and crystals on your current one

latent wedge
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im new to the game what are some teams that i could make? and also how do i get xp to reach level 30?

serene crystal
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You get experience by burning stamina, story and dailies give a bit extra.

latent wedge
frozen crypt
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!faq aster

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frozen crypt
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!faq fhm

small willowBOT
frozen crypt
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these two faqs should help you

lament sparrow
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this team is usable for SW?

jade garnet
lament sparrow
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i can also use senadina and mei

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or hofi

jade garnet
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They also work but the two you have are pretty strong

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That's a good general team

lament sparrow
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thanks. how do i play with bronya btw? if my SO is full and i QTE enter with bronya, what should i do next?

jade garnet
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Your rot will adjust based of damage thresholds and how much you actually need to do to kill

lament sparrow
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no i mean when do i skill or like should i use combo atk whenever i have?

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should i use skill after creating barrier?

jade garnet
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There isn't really a "standard" rot, it's gonna vary a lot between invests and content

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You could try to record what you're doing and I can try to give tips to try and optimize it

ancient needle
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Hieu Le on YT has good RL refs in general

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But mostly uses BiS DPSes

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i. e. no SW on this cycle specifically

ancient needle
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That means the gameplay is actually on a good level

lime talon
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is new astral op worth pulling

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as f2p

ancient needle
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If you do, you need to get her to SS

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If you wanna chill in RL you can skip

lime talon
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ok im prob skip then

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im a frequent returnee

ancient needle
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Yeah, defo skip then

steep drift
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how do I get the most $?
I've just been buying as many smart home chips as I can

obsidian lynx
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anyone know whats the potion in the daily mining

obsidian lynx
steep drift
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like the highest price thing are those computer chips but I feel like I'm behind somehow.

obsidian lynx
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the base price dont actually matter

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just craft whatever is up in price and sell for profit

frigid osprey
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well it can matter because even a higher base price item + lower percentage can be more than a lower base price item + higher percentage

obsidian lynx
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no cos its all the same scaling

steep drift
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I mean the price of the chips are higher than anything else in the market even if the 'anything else' are more up in price.
Like hats are up 15% and it's still lower price than computer chips that went up 5%

obsidian lynx
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the base 600 item costs 600 cos it needs 6x more mats than the base 100 item

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so you would still go for the base 100 item that goes up 15%

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if you go look at the base price and materials needed its all 1:1 scaling

vivid horizon
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the goal is to go for the biggest % while using up all your mats

frigid osprey
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i think I dont rly understand what youre saying but economy has never been my thing anyways

obsidian lynx
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item cost 600 cos it uses 600 mats

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so you just look for the biggest +% and craft and sell that item

vivid horizon
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like right now gamepad is +40% for me but it only uses gold, so I put all my labor units on gold (and catalyst), but I also make some umbrellas (+28%) to use some phlog and gravel

vernal ivy
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Quantum weather without quantum units is painful af, i aint doing that boss

frigid osprey
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i think thats what we are confused about

vivid horizon
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it's all about the % profit because you can make more of things with a lower base price because they use less mats

obsidian lynx
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everything basically costs the same / material

amber swift
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sorry for the late response

amber swift
vernal ivy
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What do i do whit dupes stigmatas i get from pulling?

shadow gyro
glad ice
slim blaze
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Rn i predict vr glasses for my tomorrow

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400:200:100 or 4:2:1

slim blaze
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For 30s

thorny belfry
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who should i pull for from current banners?

thorny belfry
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also whos sw..

serene crystal
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Broadly the only relevant pull for most people are going to be Silverwing's stellar key Blue Thunder Shuttle, with Yuoyun SS also being worth it if you are trying to retain or get into Nirvana

serene crystal
#

Her own bosses and has decent support value for hitcount bosses at least

thorny belfry
#

yeah but like who do i use it on

#

what character

serene crystal
#

Silverwing N-EX is available from War treasury

craggy inlet
#

Hi. Any advise on SSS Kalpas in the current Memorial arena? I'm trying the above team with SW as main DPS and RC to maybe freeze him.
But I don't understand his mechanics that well. Sometimes my SW just starts doing like 4k damage per shot, so his HP bar barely moves.

thorny belfry
serene crystal
#

She has different bosses so performs a lot better on her bosses then HLE while HLE performs better on her bosses. There isn't that much overlap between them even if you can maybe bruteforce SW's bosses with HLE it isn't going to get you far above A3.

shell basin
#

Yeah HLE can maybe squeak by a retain on Bronya shill if your bracket is slack but you’re not gonna get a promote with her

craggy inlet
#

Don't have a lot of valks yet.

serene crystal
#

XDC over VBs at least

#

But depends on what you need on the other boss.

craggy inlet
#

Tried XDC in training, but I do negative damage against his shield...

shell basin
#

For SS bosses

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It’s a bit rough since you kinda want sw for both bosses with a roster this tight but such is the early game struggle in MA

quick birch
#

I'd at least put VBS into SW's team because she can't access Stellar surplus without all team members being protected by the astral ring system

shell basin
#

Probably

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Would also free up RC for SS boss Come to think of it

quick birch
kind cliff
#

helloes! (SW-HLE-Xentinel)
for SSS kalpas, i need to break the hit shield with SW
then freeze with HLE
then go back to hit shield with SW?

cold moon
#

Could someone recommend me a starter team i still don't know who to put with elysia i kinda just put random people. Im still trying to get haxor bunny

serene crystal
serene crystal
kind cliff
serene crystal
#

Shorter switch CD on SW.

craggy inlet
# shell basin It’s a bit rough since you kinda want sw for both bosses with a roster this tigh...

Guess I have to really focus on bringing more valks online ASAP. Guess I'll put off bying D-Keys with Crystallum and get some weapons for my JDS and upcoming Sena...
Plannning on getting HoH D-Key when it's in Supply.
Thinking about HoRB D-Key as well, even though I don't have her yet. But I can pull her from Dorm Supply or even buy with more crystallum later...
Decisions, decisions...
At this point for me it's a bit hard to plan account progression when there's not that many guides. "Just pull the latest valk+weapons" is nice, but there are more things to consider.

serene crystal
#

I would not try to fix MA since performance doesn't really matter. Pulling for MA fixes definitely seems like a terrible idea unless you are spending a lot you can't really afford backpulling the d keys.

spring thicket
#

speaking as someone relatively new, the power level difference between a part 1 valkyrie and part 2 is… large. chasing the idea of usable pt1 with very limited resources is not good at all.

craggy inlet
#

Or do you mean those DLC P1s are still not good?

outer spruce
#

it's not that they're bad, they're low priority

craggy inlet
#

Got it. I'll make sure I have enough for the next release first.

#

It's just that by getting only 1 valk per patch I feel like my usable roster is growing too slow.
But yeah... Even if I spend extra, I'll run out of resources and end up with underleveled mess...

#

More than anything this game requires patience, it seems. 😂

outer spruce
#

this game is a marathon not a sprint, pulling 1 valk per patch is what you're supposed to do

craggy inlet
#

Forget quick account start. You are here for a long haul. See you in a year or two. 😂

outer spruce
#

in terms of memorial arena, i wouldn't worry too much about it, the rewards it gives aren't that major, abyss is where most of the crystals you'll get are

#

and abyss will have most of its bosses dedicated to the latest release

craggy inlet
#

true. but there are also Ancient Legacy/Willpower and stuff.
even without leveling them, it looks like I'm supposed to get those old valks. to get rewards from Elysian Realm, to level up Dorm, etc.

outer spruce
#

yeah but those are long term goals that you can do on the side at your own pace, there's no rush

serene crystal
#

Full rewards for MA can be gotten with buffed mode and VBM,RC,TA.

#

I did that a lot when starting out.

abstract burrow
#

Hello! I'm a returning player, and I don't know what to invest in/buy from shops :c could I get some advice?

thick bolt
# abstract burrow Hello! I'm a returning player, and I don't know what to invest in/buy from shops...

Logistics terminal:

  • Stuff for coins if you don't have a shortage
    Dorm shop:
  • Crystallum > dorm cards > torus > Save enough for next version and can use excess on asterite/fragments.
    Elysian Shop:
  • Weekly and version limited stuff. Stamps for valks you have.
    War Treasury:
  • Silverwing if you are getting her dkey, ER valks otherwise.
  • Monthly AW for asterite #👶beginner-help message
    Mirage store:
  • Weekly time swirl pass
    Asterite shop:
  • version limited torus and -> #👶beginner-help message
#

rest of the shops not mentioned are on a need basis or need some account context but ye

blazing talon
#

are these teams good im so lost idrk what im doing

mint ravine
#

I'm a new player, and is part 2 more generous than part 1? and do i have the choice to skip to part 2 when it comes to account progression?

abstract sequoia
#

as for gameplay generosity

#

!faq rates

small willowBOT
# abstract sequoia !faq rates
The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain? aFuHuaWicked

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

  • Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k Crystal) vs 78 pulls (22k Crystal)
  • Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k Crystal)
  • Worst Case:
  • Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k Crystal) vs 150 pulls (42k Crystal)
mint ravine
abstract sequoia
#

yes

#

part 1 valks usually wanted you to pull not only their weapon, but also all of their stigmata on the weapon banner

#

as you can see in the faq, the average costs were also much higher

mint ravine
#

yes, i remember that. i had an account but i think it's better to restart

abstract sequoia
#

for part 2 valks, only the weapon is required to pull

mint ravine
#

that's so much better

abstract sequoia
#

stigmata are still obtainable through weapon banner, but any you're missing can be forged in the foundry for free

#

and you're getting a stigmata box with a free stig of your choice on each valk's release patch

mint ravine
abstract sequoia
#

it was more common than you think back then

mint ravine
abstract sequoia
#

f2ps were forced to run alternative stigs on most things from what i heard

mint ravine
#

thanks for helping, I'm installing the game now

abstract sequoia
#

i'll keep helping on anything you need

mint ravine
#

though i managed to get them weapons

abstract sequoia
#

make sure to check this channel's pins for very good guides, like what to look out for on new accounts

#

and where to farm what efficiently

gleaming sandal
#

And good luck on your pull

mint ravine
#

I'll keep that in mind, thank you guys

abstract sequoia
#

you can keep that momentum up easily nowadays

#

with less pulls than back then

gleaming sandal
#

Yeah, 90 + 60 is way better than b4

abstract sequoia
#

just the early game will be rough when you start back with nothing

#

assuming you want to restart with a new account

#

actually, even coming back as a returnee with your old account isn't that out of the question depending on what you have

slim blaze
#

STONKS

#

Event 60% up on my items

dim vale
#

Guys, I think i locked myself out draining Data Cores. Any hopes?

thick bolt
#

(I forget if the dailies had them added at some point)

thick bolt
#

yeah that

#

just need to wait for mats now

dim vale
#

But once i prospect once I cant prospect again....hmmm

thick bolt
#

engine upgrade unlocks new stuff, more cores there

dim vale
#

My engine upgrades need data cores too

#

Which i have 0 now

#

Oh nvm i just read that
50000 iron for 2 data cores. Yeah i can wait. Thanks all

slim blaze
#

No qua

#

Sleep this abyss?

#

What if i use VV!!!

lyric anvil
gleaming sandal
slim blaze
#

Better just enjoy event then

#

Remember to set mat production to the proper ratio!!

#

Man cant believe im missing 50k

#

And prospecting is still 4 hrs away

viral torrent
lyric anvil
#

Had to use ze dragon KianaRip_nopies

viral torrent
vivid horizon
rotund roost
#

What team for kosma

#

When will simp shill BronyaRip_nopies

ancient needle
#

Vita clears the hitcount pretty fast alr

rotund roost
#

Do you have a rot?

#

I can't find any in the search generator LanternHeavyThoughts

#

They're from 2025

ancient needle
#

You'll spend too much time getting rid of the QUA shields on Badum

old wedge
#

Hello newbie here what Valkyrie is good to get at asterite shop?

old wedge
#

Damn I'm having a stroke reading these abbreviations for each valkyries battlesuit

thick bolt
#

yeah takes a bit getting used to, at then end there's only a couple relevant though xd

digital kiln
#

is heavy cannon

ancient needle
uneven warren
#

can u help me how to combo this team?

slim blaze
#

Hallo

#

What team to use for bruteforcing abyss? No Sporkle /teriri

#

Sw?

ancient needle
#

Your best bet should be FDD

#

You can just sleep though tbh

slim blaze
ancient needle
#

No

slim blaze
ancient needle
#

Unless whel AO ig

slim blaze
#

Ss bailu only kekw

ancient needle
#

XDC's buffs are from QTE or ult, Stellar Drain is from ult

ancient needle
slim blaze
#

Sadly no lamp

ancient needle
#

gg

slim blaze
#

Xddd

lilac reef
#

Im just taking the L on this one lmao

slim blaze
ancient needle
#

PAWS instead of HoFi

slim blaze
#

Oh right fast attack

ancient needle
slim blaze
#

Oh ur right

#

In either case

#

Im delusional.and im.straight up ded

#

Kekeke

ancient needle
#

YY is ass for FDD btw

#

Better run even S SQ if you have her

slim blaze
#

With so?

ancient needle
slim blaze
#

Ah ok

#

Man

#

Yeah

#

No counterplay

safe yew
#

hey guys whats the weapon type of silverwing?

shadow gyro
static trellis
#

when do we unlock more complex gameplay options?

serene crystal
static trellis
#

in general, admittedly im not far in the game but compared to the trial units they seem weak

#

well weak as in lacking in combo options

serene crystal
#

Where are you in the game?

static trellis
#

very very early game

#

like chapter 1

serene crystal
static trellis
#

long way

safe yew
slim blaze
#

Just speedrin 10 yrs worth of story in 3 days

wraith harness
#

Hii, could someone please tell me how to lvl up catalysis refinery to 3?? I'm confused to how I'm gonna do it as it keeps on saying insufficient power capacity. It's the only project report I need to finish to reach lvl. 6 BronyaAlone

wraith harness
#

I'm stuck at Lv 1 CoralieSob

outer spruce
#

not the building

wraith harness
#

I don't get what I'm doing wrong omg

wraith harness
#

-# also js realize what u mean

alpine gyro
#

Only astral ring characters i have are Rita, coralie dragon and paws with their featured weapons and stigmatas

#

What should I do to get better and earn and save up crystals faster

#

For more team comps

#

And I only pulled one of each

small willowBOT
shell basin
#

Make sure you’re doing abyss and your dailies

alpine gyro
#

Is a smart guy..

shell basin
#

Professor means im here to help and not neccesarily that im smart but I do know a bunch about the game

#

Anyway pulling one copy of each is reccomended, pulling duplicates is for whales mostly

#

All F2P players need is chara + wep

alpine gyro
#

Whos chara...

shell basin
#

Character

alpine gyro
#

Oh

shell basin
#

And wep is weapon

#

You pull the character, pull their sig wep, and then you’re done

#

No need for dupes or weapon syncs or anything

#

Anyway main team probably ought to be FDD Paws VBM, since that’s a full proper team, but if an abyss is shilling one of them (or it’s an ice abyss and FDD is weakened) you can also do Rita FDD VBM or Paws FDD VBM

alpine gyro
#

Right right

shell basin
#

For instance you’d use paws dps on most silverwing shill since she still has type advantage and isn’t weather down and can do hitcount

alpine gyro
#

Mhmmm

#

Ik fdd is coralie but whos vbm...

shell basin
#

Mini coralie

alpine gyro
#

HER?

#

So she's actually good huh..

shut flare
#

Im new what character should i pull for im still in the first part of the story

fathom harness
#

how do I unlock sakura samsara?

fathom harness
#

do I tune sw dkey or no?

thick bolt
#

the warning just means you can't convert it to the pri-arm of other weapons (essentially a non issue)

thick bolt
fathom harness
#

Im currently almost level 70 but I still cannot find the sakura samsara open world in the menu

fathom harness
thick bolt
#

yeah

fathom harness
#

I made the mistake of locking it

thick bolt
outer spruce
shadow gyro
thick bolt
#

yeah but I don't trust my memory

shadow gyro
#

i believe it does

outer spruce
#

I'm sure they give a warning where they're like "this weapon is locked, are you sure?"

lyric anvil
#

Yes

shut flare
#

How to get sw

shadow gyro
#

alternatively if you have the 2026 Valkyrie selector you can pick her from there

#

this selector was given last patch

shut flare
shadow gyro
#

levels do go by fast but it will take you time to get her then

#

war treasury is permanent, just not her gear in gacha rn

shut flare
#

So i should get her weapon ?

shadow gyro
#

did you pull at the starter supply?
preferably rerolled it?

shut flare
shadow gyro
#

it is

shut flare
#

So what character should i pull on from starter supply

shadow gyro
#

starter supply is worth it if you reroll
because its a rerun of gacha valks
if you don't reroll and you don't get the item, the pity goes

shadow gyro
#

just because if you also get silverwing's new equipment and later you'll get a free character, she has good synergy with both

shut flare
#

Okay but what should i pull on first sw weapon or kiana + her weapon

shadow gyro
#

you could do without rerolling but eh it would cost a lot of crystals to get 3 things

shut flare
shadow gyro
shut flare
shadow gyro
edgy cargo
#

Hey, I’m a new player and I don’t know who to pull for? Although I played other hoyo games, I liked this one but I don’t understand the meta or anything. Plus, all the guides on YouTube are outdated, so what should I do to kickstart my account and help me prepare for endgame? Should I pull for Sparkle or Helia? Or pull on the Starter supply? If so, which would be the best to pull? May someone please elaborate, it would be much appreciated, thank you.

P.S.
Should I try to pull for their weapons/stigmata or the Valks first, as a f2p? Just making sure.

frank dagger
#

what's a divine key?

serene crystal
#

Only pull for a valk if you can also get their weapon.

serene crystal
serene crystal
#

That is a link to a specific message in the channel

frank dagger
edgy cargo
serene crystal
#

Under equipment supply there should be a banner for blue thunder shuttle and Claudius Ptolemy. Have you unlocked war treasury yet in the shop section?

#

If you don't have it, it's most likely because you are too low level

edgy cargo
#

Oh, I found the equipment supply but I haven’t unlocked war treasury yet. So, I just unlock war treasury, get SW and pull for her weapon and stigmata in the equipment supply, then save, right? Just making sure I’m not missing anything.

serene crystal
#

Yes, main priority after the stellar key here is being able to afford next patch's valk.

edgy cargo
#

Who is that exactly?

#

The next patch Valk I mean

serene crystal
edgy cargo
#

Gotcha, one last thing before I go, who would the 3rd Valk in this team be after I get SW and the upcoming Valk with their respective weapons and the like? Can I use Corali or another free Valk, or is there another Valk I should prioritize to pull for?

serene crystal
#

SW, FL from missions,VBm.

#

For teambuilding basics, SW is world star

edgy cargo
serene crystal
#

Fl is deepspace anchor:first light. The missions should be in the event tab. VBm is Valkyrie blastmetal

lyric anvil
#

Valkyrie Blastmetal also not being the upcoming valk SenadinaPoint
You get her and her signature weapon for free in part 2 chapters 1-3

serene crystal
#

If the missions don't show up you are too low level.

edgy cargo
serene crystal
#

Yes, a decent amount of early content is locked to non astral ring valks so this may also be useful.

#

Though you are probably better off using SW,TA,RC there. RC is from growth regimen and TA from Asterite shop.

edgy cargo
serene crystal
#

Terminal Aide and Reverist calico

#

You use them when the game tells you that you can't pick VBm and FL.

edgy cargo
#

👋

serene crystal
#

Just ask again later if you get any new questions.

round pebble
#

are there any ER guides for stellarkey Silverwing?

lyric anvil
lyric anvil
gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

yea ya boi wanna do the builds right but Silverwing confuses me with how her ego signets aren't split into 2 archetypes 2/2 & 1 flex

gleaming sandal
#

Ego take silver eagle and pale feather
As for normal signet, I'd suggest
Eden 1
Hua 2
Mobi 1
Griseo 1
Pardo 1

lyric anvil
#

I believe SO build takes that also

lyric anvil
gleaming sandal
#

This is ring build, so rot genuinely be like:
Wa - Support - SO - keep basic attack

gleaming sandal
#

Cus I don't think he got chenxue

lyric anvil
#

Ah

round pebble
#

I only got uhhh the freebie astralop 😭

#

I do have Kiana ELF, for whatever thats worth tho

gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

wunderbar

gleaming sandal
#

You'll want sena and rose as support

round pebble
#

for simplicity reasons and cus I like the shop, I do always run feast of emptiness and because of you for the sigils

gleaming sandal
#

And for item, pick eden wine cup and because of you so you can get ego

round pebble
#

I like maxing the monies hehehe

gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

another thing, what does the 2 bars on the astral ring thingy mean for SIlverwing?

serene crystal
#

Stellar surplus

round pebble
#

which means? SkadiDaijoubu

serene crystal
round pebble
#

good lord thats a lot adios

serene crystal
#

When you fill up your SO and have gotten at least 10points of extra astral energy she gets an unique attack sequence which uses QME to be activated and while it is active you are locked out of doing anything else.

#

When you have burned the QME she goes back to normal.

gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

so how do u trigger this mode?

serene crystal
#

Get more astral intensity while having full SO.

#

But stellar surplus is a new mechanic which they introduced with ME and which YY buffs so expect to see more of it in the future.

round pebble
#

noted ggbignod

gleaming sandal
#

With good signet choice, she can do this

#

50 sec finality run LanternHeavyThoughts

serene crystal
#

Any investment requirements?

gleaming sandal
serene crystal
#

Ranks/syncs/AO?

gleaming sandal
#

Tho chen ss will be better

#

Chen s can do sub 2

#

Ss or higher can do sub 1

#

And most of the ppl will have ss onya anyway

#

Sss don't even get good skill

serene crystal
#

I do have SS SW so that isn't a problem.

gleaming sandal
#

Just higher attack

gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

aight, that was fun ggnod

gleaming sandal
round pebble
gleaming sandal
gleaming sandal
#

And if you use youyun, use kalpass 2 instead of 1

round pebble
#

youyun?

gleaming sandal
round pebble
#

oh, well I dont have any AoP and I probably wont get the chance to since I just want all the OG character's new battlesuits and stellar keys

gleaming sandal
#

I haven't try dreammeeper run, don't know if using her can run kalpass 1

round pebble
#

Bronya new battlesuit when 😭

gleaming sandal
#

But kalpass 1 is quite broken

#

Lemme ask you both a question, how quick did you finished da bella fight?

round pebble
#

da bella?

serene crystal
median frigate
#

What should I get on the war treasury? Pls my vita can't carry..(I'm lvl 58)

serene crystal
#

Nothing in war treasury helps Lone Planetfarer. For DPS LP you can maybe cope with Valkyrie Boltstorm early on but in the long run she needs other RoO valks. She loses a lot of damage from not being in a team with three RoO valks.
#👶beginner-help message

#

You can get SW if you are getting her stellar key.

jolly mango
#

is any banner worth spending my crystals on or should i just save for seele next patch SenadinaStare

frigid osprey
frigid osprey
# jolly mango yeah i started 4 days ago

Ok! Theres a small section in that msg chain that recommends what to do, but you can pull either of the starter supply valks. just whichever you like more tbh. then try to pull for the silverwing divine key

jolly mango
#

oh okk tysm!

gleaming sandal
#

Bella at least took me 5 sec

slim blaze
#

All i know its like 3-7s idk

gleaming sandal
shadow gyro
#

any tips for defense stage? the tuto im watching dubs it as the hardest stage, i did the rest with an halfassed SA and trial but in this one my bke keeps dying

#

trial bke btw

gusty raft
#

pull strong val xD

shadow gyro
prisma oyster
#

is there no way i can replay these

shadow gyro
abstract sequoia
abstract sequoia
#

only typewriter dialogues are replayable

#

and any lobby dialogue

shadow gyro
#

i didnt think into what cope goes does SA wants so i can take suggestions

abstract sequoia
#

my elysian astra is at 55

shadow gyro
#

ehh can i try use litt;e resorces on this? dont wanna drainmy coins

#

i still have like 10-11 stress tests to go

#

im ok with level 70 ig

abstract sequoia
#

i feel the pain

shadow gyro
#

eh whats this?

abstract sequoia
#

if it is, you can trigger it after SA qte by stepping onto a blue circle with bke

shadow gyro
#

blue circle?

#

tuto i saw said TF and UE are useful here

abstract sequoia
#

spawns a bit after qte

abstract sequoia
#

so eva alone triggers the circle for other valks, eva can follow up into ca if you haven't done that already for more sp regen

north cedar
#

is breakthrough worth it for a beginner?
only have 3 pt2 valks (mei +helia and coralie) although i am working on getting this patchs valk +sw
had to skip elysia and rita bc :<

gleaming sandal
#

@abstract sequoia hey ram, need help a bit

shadow gyro
#

i dont do the basics and evas on SA

gleaming sandal
#

Wait, actually, you don't have sena, so you can't do it BronyaRip_nopies

quick birch
north cedar
quick birch
#

!faq breakthrough

small willowBOT
# quick birch !faq breakthrough
Breakthrough

Hello, Captain! AichanWave

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for more information regarding Breaking through to Exalted (Captain Level 81+).

Short Answer:

  • It is highly recommended to break through for better rewards, but be aware that it is irreversible!
quick birch
#

maybe give this a read

#

i think you can argue for both options in your case

north cedar
#

I will see my options then
i forgot we are getting free sena this patch so that should make it bearable ngl

abstract sequoia
#

for skills and stigs, possibly weapon later

gleaming sandal
abstract sequoia
gleaming sandal
#

But my wep isn't fully upgraded

#

Lemme explain the rot

abstract sequoia
#

idk how experienced tradey is, but he's a sena stan. maybe ask him

north cedar
gleaming sandal
#

Aight

#

@old tendon you up?

abstract sequoia
#

every rank more means more skills to level too

north cedar
gleaming sandal
#

Well, ram, you don't have sena right?

#

Are you gonna acquire her weapon once you get her?

abstract sequoia
#

where ranked aops matter a lot for performance

#

you can see me in last myriad leaderboard right now actually

#

t50 is the highest possible reward per cycle

abstract sequoia
#

the gain from it is minimal however in WoD

gleaming sandal
abstract sequoia
#

20% tdm outside SO as the priarm passive and synergy 1

#

I'll max it either way

#

don't worry

#

need to count my torus though

gleaming sandal
abstract sequoia
#

wait you don't have max wep?

ivory igloo
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Hii I was just wondering how I could get HoS brick so I can finish off her trial thing and also since i don’t have any of the three for the divine key thing

outer spruce
hexed glacier
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Can anyone help me with this? I tried looking at yt for guide but i still can't beat it, i need some team build help

storm minnow
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My brain stopped working when I looked at that

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@abstract sequoia

abstract sequoia
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i'm here

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okay

storm minnow
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Nvm my bad

abstract sequoia
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what do you need to see

storm minnow
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How to gamble well

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What’s worth whats not

abstract sequoia
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!faq supplies

small willowBOT
abstract sequoia
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the link on "here" explains every single gacha banner

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what's worth this patch is always pinned in this channel

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under "What is worth Pulling this Patch?"

storm minnow
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What if I’m lucky?

abstract sequoia
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then more for next banner

storm minnow
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Interesting

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Never really thought about it that way

abstract sequoia
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if you're always lucky, you can go for more than the essential stuff, but in order for it to matter you need to do well in the competitive gamemodes Superstring Dimension and Memorial Arena

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i'm mostly talking about AstralOPs

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normally you'd only go for the newest S rank valkyrie and her weapon

storm minnow
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So what’s your team?

abstract sequoia
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that depends on the boss, always

storm minnow
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What about just normally

abstract sequoia
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everything is conditional

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let me explain though

storm minnow
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Please continue

abstract sequoia
small willowBOT
# storm minnow Please continue
Type Counter

I'm here to help, Captain! AichanWave

Below are the type advantages and disadvantages in Honkai Impact 3rd! Solid arrows show UP, faint arrows show DOWN.

You can view this chart in-game by pressing the type icon on your Valkyrie.

abstract sequoia
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this is the first condition

storm minnow
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I forgot about the elements

abstract sequoia
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every enemy and valkyrie has a type

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this is not elements

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elements also exist

storm minnow
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I call it element mb

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Okay continue

abstract sequoia
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as for elements, there's these 4

storm minnow
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I thought you could mix then to different things or am I completely wrong

abstract sequoia
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usually we say that a valk has a damage type around these 4

abstract sequoia
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or any other hoyo game that does this that i dont know

storm minnow
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I’m getting confused continue

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I’m slowly understanding

abstract sequoia
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Freeze, Paralyze, Stun, Ignite and Bleed

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these can also be factors for enemies to be more vulnerable

storm minnow
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So weakness

abstract sequoia
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not exactly

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i mean kind of, it can cause a debuff

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there's also debuffs that can be applied to enemies

storm minnow
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So certain status effect are better depending on the fight

abstract sequoia
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yeah

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so you choose different valkyries that can apply them

storm minnow
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So for example you would want a dps that counters a boss

abstract sequoia
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same goes for damage types, some bosses are resistant to some types while vulnerable to others

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or maybe even immune to a specific dmg type

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meaning no damage from, for example, ice dmg

storm minnow
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Is there anyway you could join a vc and show me if not thats cool

abstract sequoia
storm minnow
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Visual is easier to understand then just words for me

abstract sequoia
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yeah there is a vc, need to ask a mod though to give you a role for talking

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i can get you one though

storm minnow
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Take your time

abstract sequoia
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@frozen crypt fluffy wants vc role bronyaCute

storm minnow
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Please

frozen crypt
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done

storm minnow
abstract sequoia
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EN General

abstract sequoia
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!faq astral ring

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# abstract sequoia !faq astral ring
Astral Ring and Specializations

Allow me to explain, Captain! AichanCool

Characters under the Astral Ring System will have one ring type (Specialization), and one or multiple tags (Attributes) that will determine how they can form teams. This system is only activated if a Character with Astral Ring is set as the leader. When activated:

  • the leader's ring type will decide the team's playstyle.
  • the team will benefit from effects (e.g., Stigmata buffs) that require Astral Ring.
  • the team will gain access to Stellar Outburst, a high damage output state you can enter after charging enough energy (Astral Ring Intensity).

Astral Ring Team Building Resources:

  • [Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for a guide to Astral Ring team building fundamentals!
  • Click here to view a spreadsheet of Astral Ring Specializations, Tags, and the Valkyries protected by them.

For information on each Astral Ring Specialization:

abstract sequoia
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!faq dkeywhat

small willowBOT
abstract sequoia
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!faq rates

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# abstract sequoia !faq rates
The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain? aFuHuaWicked

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

  • Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k Crystal) vs 78 pulls (22k Crystal)
  • Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k Crystal)
  • Worst Case:
  • Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k Crystal) vs 150 pulls (42k Crystal)
abstract sequoia
small willowBOT
# storm minnow Which one

v8.8 approx. install size

  • Mobile

basic assets ~ 31 GB
full assets ~ 42 GB

  • PC

basic assets ~ 44.5 GB
full assets ~ 58.5 GB
(Event files that come out after are not counted here)

gleaming sandal
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Ayo rammy

olive ivy
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can't find the option to pri-arm this weapon i presume it's different than the usual ones?

outer spruce
olive ivy
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aight ty

shadow gyro
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is the 3.94 cd okay or should i reroll it for more cd if i want to improve affix quality in general? its either this or reroll a 17.5 atk for more atk, the rest of the affixes are atk btw

slim blaze
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Man 6.2M for engine lvl9

cold moon
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Is this a good starter build for Elysia

shadow gyro
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also you shouldn't be leveling foundry weapon because they provide less than what you get

serene crystal
carmine cypress
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is the new astralop better than sss ely elf for sw bronya

gleaming sandal
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SS youyun is better

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Idk about s tho

tame briar
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Is youyun S rank good? i've heard ppl compare youyun with others astralOP at S rank and said youyun can only be good at SS rank is that true?

frigid osprey
frigid osprey
# tame briar what is qol?

quality of life. for example her ss allows old pt2 valks to end their astral ring sequence by using ult

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she also provides more starting ari at ss

tame briar
lyric anvil
quick birch
tame briar
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Is youyun is for both WoD and Star Wolrd ring?

quick birch
# tame briar Is youyun S rank good? i've heard ppl compare youyun with others astralOP at S r...

you can't really compare aops 1 to 1 since they are tailored to different ring types and beyond that also provide different utility depending on the ring. Like everything in this game it depends on the situation. Generally i'd say that youyun is a bit more focused on SS because SS is needed for the initial ari and early SO exit for older WS valkyries. Especially the intial ari is quite nice with stellar surplus being a thing in both WS and WoD.
While youyun can support both WoD and WS her intial ari for WoD is lower compared to Serapeum so you may prefere her there in some situations.

Generally i wouldn't recommend you to pull for aops if you're just chilling in RL and/or are a f2p and rather save for future valkyries since coverage is far more important

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!faq gacha aop

lyric anvil
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From reading Youyun's skills, it's 80% World Star

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# quick birch !faq gacha aop
Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN! AichanAngery

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

  • Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
  • Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30kCrystal).
    • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
  • The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
quick birch
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this basically condenses our recommendations and reasons for that

quick birch
lyric anvil
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Makes it where I don't have to cope with FDD on my Rita team anymore

tame briar
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so seraphim is still best for WoD?

quick birch
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not necessarily it's situational

lyric anvil
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^

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No surplus: Sera better
Surplus: Youyun

shadow junco
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Does this make sense...

frozen crypt
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nope

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!faq fhm

small willowBOT
shadow junco
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Who to replace that thing in anything

frozen crypt
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First time I've seen someone randomly hate on prometheus

shadow junco
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I mean, HoV ain't allat either but Pardo and core are pretty

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But I go 90% by design bias

frozen crypt
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if you need competitive performance refer to that faq, not all of them have prometheus in the team

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pardo and prometheus basically server the same purpose for beginners

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filler support

frozen crypt
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not really, hov and coralie don't really have any reason to be in the same team

shadow junco
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I got like 40 pity on helia, 😭

serene crystal
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Then run VBm as main slot instead.

shadow junco
serene crystal
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RC, TA is the easy solution. But if you are strongly against TA you can try CN or another fire support.

shadow junco
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Please

serene crystal
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Check pins for abbreviations.
Reverist Calico, Terminal Aide, Chrono Navi.

shadow junco
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Ik them by names or looks but not these names 😭

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Ah hyperion

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Yes that works. She's pretty! Ty

shadow junco
serene crystal
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An easy way to get more asterite quickly is salvaging other mats but you are limited to 25 fragments per week.

serene crystal
spring kestrel
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What is best team i can make for this round abyss

shell basin
spring kestrel
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No luna sig

shell basin
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Oh no dkey?

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Gotta be Ps then. Ps and then 1 of RS Mei and then 1 of RS Mei Badum FDD

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For paws dps its usually Mei RS best

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But I haven’t tried for PS

ivory igloo
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Hi just a question are there any astral ops that I should pull for, I know youyn is the newest but I already have serapeum

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# ivory igloo Hi just a question are there any astral ops that I should pull for, I know youyn...
Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN! AichanAngery

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

  • Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
  • Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30kCrystal).
    • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
  • The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.
shell basin
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If you have spare crystals (like if you’re whaling) they’re a pretty good vertical investment but it’s better to focus on getting Valkyries and their weapons

ivory igloo
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Oh ok I’m mainly just focusing on part two valks and divine keys currently for collection purposes anyway and then I’ll try to get more weapons(I know it’s not a great idea but it works) so I’ll probably leave it then I only got sera when I first started and I was checking out all the gacha and I got her in one pullLanternHeavyThoughts

harsh jacinth
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Hello!

Is there way to skip a tutorial in HI3? I use to play HI3 but whenever I download it aagain I usualy play a tutorial, is there a way to llogin my account than play a tutoriaal?

mortal carbon
harsh jacinth
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Correct me if I'm wrong though

mortal carbon
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If you're a returnee then you get put on the bridge and a short dialogue plays welcoming you back basically, but if you open the game to the tutorial on the jet then that is an account that has never progressed past the tutorial so its either new, or old but never gotten past the tutorial.

if you used to play the hoyoverse version but play the steam version now then that could also be it, the steam version is different and doesnt use hoyoverse accounts

harsh jacinth
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okokok, thank you for the informations. I'll give it a try later

mortal carbon
# harsh jacinth okokok, thank you for the informations. I'll give it a try later

np and good luck! as a side note, it is totally up to you but if you are usually mostly interested in the meta then the beginner account rewards are much better than returnee, and most of the 3+ year old valks are free and not really usable in the end game anymore, theres a couple of niche exceptions that require a lot of resources to be sunk into them so the general advice is if you care about being competitive then its better to restart with a brand new account but as always its totally up to you! FuHuaApprove

harsh jacinth
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Interesting! Honestly just want to see my valks and my dorm, hahaha. I might not play HI3 in the long run, once I get a new PC I might play Genshin or might stick with HI3

mortal carbon
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thats totally fair, best of luck with getting your old account back SakuraLuv

harsh jacinth
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Thank you, Luna. 😁

cold moon
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I recently got kiana knight moonbeam is she good?

shadow gyro
serene crystal
slim blaze
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Random dorm pulls plez

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No crystals used hopefully

harsh jacinth
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NA is US, right?