👶beginner-help

[shell basin]

And give you a few more or less points than each other

[rotund roost]

Should I be pulling for horb dkey instead before I get Elysia?

[shell basin]

No

Elysia is better even if you have Horb and if you don’t have Horb then for sure

It’s not worth getting

[rotund roost]

Will it brick my account?

I alr have orb

[shell basin]

No, especially if you have other SD units. There’s gonna be a lot of HLE shill and you will suffer in it but it should be entirely possible to retain RL without her

If you have a wide enough number of options

For instance current abyss is HLE shill but you could do okay with Paws FDD HoHE or Thelema dps

[acoustic ivy]

i dont get this any stages thing, which one should i clear?

[round pebble]

the bouquet from Elysia does nothing does it?

[sweet flax]

Had a code. For some reason they didn't attach it this time, check pins

[sweet flax]

Deep sequence

Just 1 run is enough

[mental python]

There is no current way to grab Kiana's weapon right now though.. right?
Edit: the astral ring weapon

[tall flax]

nope, gotta wait for rerun

[storm lantern]

no and it just reran

[mental python]

Okay thank you
What about thelema's weapon? Only way would be buying the current battle pass and the next one ? (I only need to spend 15.000 crystals to get Thelema and that's likely going to happen before 12-12-2025)

[rotund roost]

What type of returnee am I? Is it the 2 weeks one or is it the 1 month one

[odd plume]

not sure what you mean

[rotund roost]

There's two types right?

The one 2 weeks who went offline while theres a 1 month one?

or is it another game...

Like there's one returnee one with the banner thing?

[odd plume]

oh, i get what you mean

need to offline for 60 days to get that banner

[rotund roost]

What's the difference in rewards?

I was close sadge

[odd plume]

you kinda get it wrong, there's only 1 returnee event
the banner is separated
the 2 weeks you are talking about are for the first time you active returnee event
next time you want to get it, you need to go offline for 65 days

you wont get returnee event if you go off for 2 weeks next time

[shell basin]

Also returnee rewards kinda suck

[odd plume]

so you only miss the banner

[rotund roost]

Ohh only the banner is the difference

[rotund roost]

Yeah, but it helps... ig?

[tall flax]

its not 45?

[odd plume]

they increased it

[tall flax]

no wonder ive been duped on my recent returnee

[odd plume]

returnee event duration is 65 days now

[tall flax]

I remember being offline for 45 days and I got no banner

[shadow gyro]

current returnee valk is lamp which is ehhh
i mean it's not like u should use crystals in those but at least if someone got lucky with thel that would be the most goated thing to get from that scam supply

[hollow stream]

hi guys which chars should i buy with astrite i have the part2 a teirs and cosmic expression

[spiral badge]

!faq asterite

[small willow]

Asterite Priority

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view the Asterite Priority list!
-# Aimed at beginner accounts.

Also see Professor Sairaan's Asterite Sources breakdown [here](#👶beginner-help message).

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[spiral badge]

first link here

this is also in the pins for future reference, along with various other resources

if you have any more specific questions, feel free to elaborate

[hollow stream]

thanks

[shut frigate]

is the HoR weapon in the event shop its pri-arms version? I noticed its star of eden: world

[shadow gyro]

its the divine key

[shut frigate]

Oh nice

[shadow gyro]

you can unlock priarm by getting the og wp and going to the foundry
a lot of wps have priarm

although rn that weapon is only important for dkey bonus so u don't need to level it at all

[hollow stream]

should i pull for songque on senadina

[shell basin]

1 pull for Sonque that it makes you spend and then refunds, and then nothing else on starter banner

[hollow stream]

why tho

[shell basin]

The starter banner Valkyries are all multiple years old and outdated

They can’t support new releases and don’t have much use as a dps

They’re basically bait banners

[hollow stream]

but they are part 2 battlesuits?/

[shell basin]

Plus they don’t share pity

[shell basin]

Part 2 is multiple years old

And the ring system means not every part 2 battlesuit can support every part 2 DPS

You are best off focusing on the HLE banner and her weapon, and if you really want to pull someone different there’s also carnival tomorrow which is still better than starter banner

[hollow stream]

so what do i do with my xtals i already got love elf and her weapon/stigmas

[shell basin]

How many do you have

[hollow stream]

about 10 pulls

[shell basin]

Then save them

[hollow stream]

(im new)

[odd plume]

wait till you use 20 free pull on carnival banner and see

[shell basin]

That’s not enough to get anyone unless you’re lucky

But you’ll get 20 free carnival pulls you can spend

You’ll want to pull for either Badum or Peregrine Sword

Since those are the best two carnival banners

[hollow stream]

ok

[shell basin]

Don’t go past the free pulls, since if you spend crystals but fail to get the battlesuit they’ll be wasted

Unlike normal where it still counts for pity

[odd plume]

tbh, pulling one of them from carnival banner can be a sensible choice for brand new account
not the best choice but it will feel better for the next 4 months

[shell basin]

If they could guarentee it I’d agree but not with 10 pulls idt

[odd plume]

im talking about saving then pull if they have enough

[shell basin]

Oh then yeah you can justify that

[odd plume]

using a super cope team for the next 2 months of 8.5
then using a less cope team for the whole 8.6, asume 8.6 can support ely
not a great experience

[shell basin]

Yeah can confirm that one personally

[odd plume]

would've been much better if we got horb rerun now

actually no, would've been much better if horb is in spending

[shell basin]

Agree

[shadow gyro]

a lot better than scam box but its still a dilemma for those that went for hle + wp + dkey and didn't reach the milestone

its stupid that she was in the 8.1 spending tho

[rotund roost]

What would be the best build for both of these?

Would you be able to buy all of these?

so that I can spend them all

[shadow gyro]

yes

[odd plume]

vill v, get mk III + nuke + lamp + cd + atk and atk speed

[wintry wharf]

signature turrets maxed before first boss ?

[odd plume]

yes

[dry python]

I can never get it, bad rng

[rotund roost]

Is the max score 10k? or is it not possible?

[odd plume]

highest that i've seen is 9915

[upper fog]

Hello ! I have a question

[odd plume]

no need to be formal, just ask right away

[thorn ember]

turns out I had 40k crystals, is it enough for Elly and Devine key?

[odd plume]

enough for ely, need some luck for dkey

[upper fog]

Should I synergy 3 this weapon or go for hi love elf’s S2 ? Dps / Dmg wise

[thorn ember]

cool cool

[odd plume]

wait for someone else, im not familiar with rank

[thorn ember]

how needed are the new elfs?

[upper fog]

Ohh

[quick birch]

DMG wise sync 3 would probably give you around the same damage increase as s2 would for less pulls, though note that it's far more important to actually have good teammates for HLE instead of investing into her more, also note that if you care about meta it's not recommended to go beyond S0+1 unless you're a whale

[rotund roost]

Okay, found out 10k was possible. Your build was really good lol thx

[odd plume]

basically the same as any new valk, great for the next few patch
worth to get if you can afford it
how needed is hard to say, it's kinda subjective

[quick birch]

I assume you mean aops ? If you're not a nirvana player they're not needed at all

!faq gachaaop

[small willow]

Should I Pull AstralOps?

NOO CAPTAIN!

If you are a f2p meta player, you should not pull gacha AstralOps - only players who are retaining or trying to retain Nirvana should consider it if they have the funds (unlikely for f2p players).

Reasons:

• Dreamseeker is good enough despite being free.
• Too expensive, especially if they need SS (~20-30k).
  • AstralOps have the same cost as a gacha weapon, therefore pulling one may result in being unable to afford a Valkyrie's weapon down the line (for meta players, this means skipping said Valkyrie entirely).
• The damage and score increase they provide in Redlotus and below is often minimal and not needed to retain.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thorn ember]

oh I also wanted to ask about outfits
Was Maid outfit payed or free?

[frosty kernel]

this group is crazy bruh

[odd plume]

highest for the second stage is 10320

[upper fog]

I only do Elysian realm ! I play the game for the lore / fun. Gave up on the other end content challenges for the sake of my sanity 🥲 also the meta is very tiring so I just pull who I like the most !

[frosty kernel]

badum good for hle right? but what is PS?

[rotund roost]

HOW

[quick birch]

Yeah that's totally valid I'm just making sure that you're aware that it's normally not recommended, otherwise good luck with your pulls

[frosty kernel]

yeah just enjoy the game the way you enjoy it

[unique crystal]

when can i unlock the gacha? and when is the free elysia coming?

[quick birch]

You should unlock the gacha very early, should be after the tutorial. I assume you mean HoHe with free Elysia ? The box where she's in will come out next Sunday afaik

[shadow gyro]

nov 2
and i think u unlock the supplies in level 10 something just do the very first bits of story

either level 10 something or level 20 unfortunately i don't remember

but u get it very fast

[deep dew]

I haven't played the game since the start of 2024, should I just use that old one or create a whole new account for new player rewards? it only has 1 p2 character

[odd plume]

group them up better, use skill at the right time etc.
no record for that but this could give you some idea
【8.5活动 10110分 期末大测验 专项考验:「大扫除」】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NCnRzNE5L/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=4eb2cd5f72f1ff69b8b78a7efde2ec0f

best score

[thorn ember]

aah okay thanks!

BTW can someone tell me what Seele's devine key does? I can't complete the tutorial due to crashes

[quick birch]

Sounds like a restart would be the better option though if you want to make sure refer to this

!FAQ returnee

[slim blaze]

ah shit 9915

[small willow]

Returnee Accounts

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the Returnee Accounts pin!

Please send us an imgur album in #👶beginner-help of your significant S-Rank Valkyries and the first page of your Weapons and Stigmata. We will help you decide whether it is worth keeping.

If your account:

• Is below level 80
• Lacks established teams
• Isn't dear to you/doesn't have limited collectables that you care about.

Then:

[slim blaze]

oh 2nd stage is up?

[rotund roost]

Eh.. As long as I'm top 10 for SEA, the leaderboard is for the whole SEA server, right? I can't even level with cn

[unique crystal]

are there codes in this game?

[rotund roost]

yes, pins

[deep dew]

I'm not sure about "established teams" because EN isn't my first language and I also don't remember much about limited collectables and my game hasn't finished downloading so I'll probably have to come back later, thank you so much though!

[quick birch]

Np take your time

[frosty kernel]

wait what is this

[odd plume]

current event

[frosty kernel]

ohh

[peak adder]

When can I unlock the abyss? I'm currently level 38

[odd plume]

should be unlocked already, it's called q manifold

[peak adder]

Oh they're the same? Thanks for telling me

[unique crystal]

how can i change the atk button to left mouse button?

[odd plume]

it's called abyss but after lv81, it will be replaced with super string dimension, when you see we talk about abyss, it's usually the one after lv81

[peak adder]

Ohhh okay, is the story the most efficient way to make my level higher?

[odd plume]

yes, p1 story is the fastest way to lv up and get crystal quick, tho it will slow down after chapter 25 or so

[amber finch]

do your dailies too, they give a decent amount of exp

[peak adder]

Oh okay thankss

[odd plume]

go to setting and change to mouse+keyboard

[prime sorrel]

how much crystals do i need to get elysia and her weapon? any tip for farming crystals as a newbie?

[quick birch]

!FAQ rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

For crystals we have a pin about crystals sources check that out

[prime sorrel]

ohh thank you

[quick birch]

We also get ~35 free pulls so subtract 9.800 crystals from the max amount

[amber finch]

36.4 (42k for hard pity, minus 2.8k bc free 10 pull on valk, another 2.8k assuming you got the 10 equipment cards from login)

[odd plume]

do everything, but p1 story and starter mission give you good amount quick

[amber finch]

havent gotten the 15 pulls yet so im not counting them in

[unique crystal]

how many days is this if i activate it?

[dry python]

Should be 3

[frosty kernel]

check the ticket

[unique crystal]

where? oh nvm found it

[short elm]

I just started on a new account and have already gotten Hi Elf and her pri-arm, who should I invest in next? I have no other decent valkriye and no astralop except the default one given

[odd plume]

@dry python update your code smh

[dry python]

I've been studying give me a minute

[dry python]

Well don't WA on fdd in so for one

[odd plume]

wait till you use 20 free pull for carnival banner

[glad coral]

how good is horb sss? I know it will probably not be worth it compared to getting new characters/gear but just want to know

[quick birch]

They need to because of SP

[dry python]

Oh wait

[quick birch]

Smh

[dry python]

Smh

[odd plume]

can't really say how good a valk is, can only tell if something is worth it for someone in given situation

[frosty kernel]

if i dont, i dont have enough sp

thats prolly the ceiling of my team can get

[quick birch]

• you don't need to switch to fdd to refresh her buffs that early wait until vbm buffs are about to run out and then swap to vbm -> jump -> BA -> WA -> qte to fdd WA and ult then go back to HLE and do her stuff
• after you exit SO VBm's buffs are about to run out so refresh them the same way that I mentioned above

Other than that the run looks fine

[maiden garden]

The free pulls i believe it was 10, are we getting them tomorrow?

[glad coral]

oh alr ty

[odd plume]

if you mean free pull for carnival banner, it's 20 in total but not at the same time

[short elm]

is there any usage for duplicate stigmas?

[odd plume]

extremely rare and not for normal player, mostly just salvage for prism

[maiden garden]

Ah

Well I meant the boxes

[frosty kernel]

1. oh refresh? i didnt think about that i just switch for qte tbf. So i guess i should just stay on hle till SO huh?
2. but if i do that, i am losing damage tho? i tried it before and staying on hle feels like better option since fdd dont do much

[short elm]

thx

[odd plume]

you mean this? it's 15 in total, nov 2

[quick birch]

I'm also a bit hesitant about the second point try out both and see how much Vbm buffs are actually affecting you at that

[maiden garden]

Ah it's so far away 😭

[frosty kernel]

ah okay but just to clarify, Vbm only buff FDD right? or am i wrong

[quick birch]

Nope Vbm also buffs HLE

[frosty kernel]

ohh

[unique crystal]

is the story in-game too long?

[quick birch]

Or more accurately she debuffs the enemy

[frosty kernel]

not really, you talking about part 1 or 2?

[frosty kernel]

gotcha thanks for the headsup

[unique crystal]

whats that?

[quick birch]

You may opt to also refresh her buffs once hellmaru spawn since he won't be debuffed before SO

[frosty kernel]

is story parts, part 1 is kiana story while part 2 is on mars where there is openworld

[frosty kernel]

hmm you right okay okay

[unique crystal]

oh so which one is longer?

[sweet flax]

mango how to score like paws team

[unique crystal]

who should i pick?

[quick birch]

Dunno

[frosty kernel]

its very long if you count the whole story. You wanna do it in one go or what?

[sweet flax]

did you already pull weapon?

[unique crystal]

nope im gonna do it slowly

[frosty kernel]

there's like 30 chapters in part 1

[odd plume]

8 years worth of story, ofc it will be long, just dont do it in one go

[frosty kernel]

if you want to do the story just do part 1 first, its better for immersive and chronological order

[sweet flax]

13 points to promo surely you know the trick to make non-paws score like paws

[frosty kernel]

its good cause on part 1, each chapter had like 10 stages so you can stop whenever you feel like it

[quick birch]

I would if I'd be in RL

[sweet flax]

😔

[restive veldt]

guys what do i do w these extras?

[sweet flax]

salvage them to get source prisms in return, no other use as the buffs are limited to hle equip bonus

[upbeat egret]

What are u playing

[sweet flax]

hle fdd vita, tried other things as well like thele dps and hoo dps but didnt score well

[upbeat egret]

Why vita tho?

Replace vita with badum or hoh

[quick birch]

Symphony

[sweet flax]

badum scored lower, trying hohe rn

[upbeat egret]

Badum lower?

How much are u scoring with badum fdd?

[odd plume]

i kinda forgot the tag but vita can support hle?

[upbeat egret]

Not that I know

[sweet flax]

no symbiosis, its just roo buffs

[sweet flax]

790-810 range

[quick birch]

Just because she's RoO, HLE isn't completely bricked without 2 symbioses supports so it's worked fine from my experience

Them 30% DMG buff do be huge

[unique crystal]

where do i earn more exp to level up?

[upbeat egret]

How much with vita?

[sweet flax]

815

[upbeat egret]

What is ur hoh rank? Which aop are u using?

[sweet flax]

hohe is ss, ss chen

[quick birch]

Noway we hab SS Chen now

[upbeat egret]

Okay time to cook

[odd plume]

p1 story, starter mission
fast way to get exp

[sweet flax]

and lvl 65 weapon

[quick birch]

Unbricked HLE fr

The 60/65 wep was pissing me of so much 😭

[unique crystal]

i need to be lvl 20 and im 19 and i cant find anything that gives exp

[sweet flax]

using stamina, so doing your story

and later on your daily missions (bp missions)

[odd plume]

seem like you missed starter event, better remake a new account for much easier time
or you can just redo the cleared stage

[sweet flax]

tf

[sweet flax]

^

[unique crystal]

whats starter event?

[sweet flax]

beginner manual

[odd plume]

special event for new account

tons of crystal and stuffs

[unique crystal]

oh ok, i kinda created this account like last year and i quited

[frosty kernel]

tried the first part only and both and i got less then what i got before xD

[quick birch]

Hmg weird

[frosty kernel]

and vbm buff doesnt improves my dmg on SO, it stays the same

[quick birch]

Vbm buffs refresh on SO so yeah makes sense I was referring to pre SO but you're probably not attacking hellmaru a lot with HLE before SO

[frosty kernel]

yeah the SO is gonna be already up

[forest marlin]

dude i cant clear my shallow sequence of herresher of human

[frosty kernel]

if i want to attack more on hellmaru with hle, well that was my run above

[frosty kernel]

level it up brah

[forest marlin]

its level 12

like in elysian realm

[frosty kernel]

i mean your gears and stuff but idk if its affect that much

[quick birch]

You should be able to clear it easily with the trial valk provided

!FAQ signet

[small willow]

Elysian Realm

I'm here to help, Captain!

Click here for signet guides!
-# Also see Shallow Sequence Tutorials here.

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[quick birch]

Check out the shallow sequence guide at the bottom

[frosty kernel]

oh yeah you got te trial one

[forest marlin]

ya with the one provided but like the last star in the last sequence i cant get

[shadow gyro]

check the link, you're probably not doing the rotation right

[forest marlin]

i am talking about the shallow sequence thou

[shadow gyro]

it is in the guide

u click the second link

[frosty kernel]

ayy i got 12 more points nice. I just switch to vbm one time on the entire battle (on the beginning of the run) and it made my run faster. I was staying on HLE the whole time

still not enough to get trophies tho, but i think it makes me saver to not losing trophies so thats good

[charred burrow]

Its fine just play ur best

[frosty kernel]

@forest marlin btw did you have a sensei yet?

[shadow gyro]

assuming you're new to superstring that's not bad! you do start with trying to retain and when you can progress more on ur end you'll do better!

[frosty kernel]

yeah i feel more confident than before, last patch i was losing trophies all the time cause coralie wasnt enough

but now i think i can retain on here comfortably

this sht is a fun game man holy

[forest marlin]

damn so there r ways to deal more damage through rotations thats new

[abstract sequoia]

it's one of the main ways to improve your damage no matter which gamemode it is

[forest marlin]

so where do i learn these rotations

[abstract sequoia]

depends on for which gamemode and what valkyries you're using

more experienced players usually just try different things and see what works best. this usually always works best by knowing the theory behind things and/or looking at what others already tried and succeeded with

for abyss and memorial arena there's usually a lot of reference videos uploaded on youtube and bilibili

you just have to learn how to look those up, but we actually do have a pin in #💁gameplay-help for that topic

elysian realm also has many build guides. but either way, the more you get into those gamemodes and learn things, the more you might be able to make your own things at some point. everyone has different account progress after all and this is especially important to consider when looking at references

[upbeat egret]

@sweet flax

[sweet flax]

i could kiss you rn

Oh ye I shouldn't be far off in atk either since I have more dkeys now so I might be able to get same score

[upbeat egret]

🫂

[forest marlin]

thanks ram

[prisma oyster]

is matchmaking for abyss random

[odd plume]

yes

[hollow stream]

which?

[odd plume]

you need any of them now?

[hollow stream]

no

[floral latch]

hello how to change controls to mouse on pc left click for attack and right for dash

[odd plume]

just keep the box for later
mostly just to unlock valk for ER

[odd plume]

go to the setting, switch to mouse + keyboard

[floral latch]

It's not letting me bind to left click

[odd plume]

can't remember correctly but isn't it default setting? what is your key for attack now?

[floral latch]

J

Wait I found it it's in a separate section

[digital kiln]

Reserve works dont have star of eden right

[dry python]

No

[quick birch]

Star of Eden is the free canon from realms of battle

If you mean star of Eden anti entropy then yeah it's not in there

[forest marlin]

should i be buying the blast hammer modification ?/

[amber finch]

eh why not, get that to syn3 (assuming you already sss’d coralie OR you have enough asterites to afford both every week)

i’d get cora ranks first before i get the mod boxes

[forest marlin]

i am a begginer and have like 120000 asteriter

coralie in ss 2 star

[amber finch]

and a part of the box is 30k + idk like 20k for the frags assuming you havent maxed her

thats 50k a week, 120k will last you 2 weeks unless you’re saying you make 80k ast a week

[forest marlin]

nah dude my lvl is only 70 so i dont make that much ig

[amber finch]

then focus on one thing first

[forest marlin]

alr thanks

[amber finch]

oh actually only 10k for frags so 40k

[fluid grove]

how many crystals can i make in total from voyage log? i mean all the permanent events basically. i already did the ely one but all the others arent done at all

[amber finch]

it should be in the crystal sources faq

in the p2 section there’s a link, click that

[fluid grove]

oh ok

[sweet flax]

not enough dmg

[fluid grove]

ok nvm i dont think its worth doing all the events for only 4 pulls

[upbeat egret]

After finisher stay on ely and do weapon activ +ult charged

[sweet flax]

we take those ig

I recorded the run if it helps

[upbeat egret]

Send it

[sweet flax]

https://youtu.be/94JPy1OgHKU

slight missclick on the basic attack on the end was probs -1 point

[upbeat egret]

Yeah

I was about to say it

[sweet flax]

actually here we go, 833

[upbeat egret]

Amagad

Prolao

[gilded scroll]

Uh guys what is next banner Gon be

[sweet flax]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[upbeat egret]

Time for top 1 now

[sweet flax]

if you are asking about next patch no one knows yet

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-nope-im-good-no-thanks-no-gif-25351978

[gilded scroll]

Thx

[upbeat egret]

Asufraud?

[gilded scroll]

How get flawless Benediction or is just gacha only?

[sweet flax]

gacha only unobtainable at the moment

[sweet flax]

im tired boss

[upbeat egret]

Okay its fine

Should be good enough I guess

Its ago4 anyway

[gilded scroll]

Cant get on the recycle shop or weapon shop i forget the name

[shadow gyro]

speaking for abyss anyone got advice for hle fdd paws ds in nirv this boss pmo sm rn

[upbeat egret]

I could record something for u but I will have too much damage even with DS

You can try to record ur run and let me see

[sweet flax]

how much atk you have?

[shadow gyro]

idm anything bc im suffering and i got no lead 😭

[upbeat egret]

In nirvana?

[sweet flax]

in rl or in nirv just in general

I wanna know how much im losing

[shadow gyro]

me?

[upbeat egret]

Nirvana account 1530 and rl.account 1480 iirc

[upbeat egret]

Okay let me see

[sweet flax]

ok im clearly slaccing then

[upbeat egret]

No dk really sucks

[sweet flax]

I craft pinions this patch for +10

[shadow gyro]

i just unlocked soe:ae so i have to do more runs but i dont like my rot so i wanted to see if someone wanna try for me first 😭

[sweet flax]

just missing stellar key syncs and brick otherwise so not too bad

[upbeat egret]

I will try dw

Give me 20 min to cook something for u

[sweet flax]

asaphie cooking

[upbeat egret]

Always has been

[shadow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-feet-pepe-pepe-feet-pray-gif-13367702538580662263

[sweet flax]

actually im noticing where the issue is

some affixes are ass some are god like

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

[upbeat egret]

Need atleast 40atk on each stig but u probably know it already

[shadow gyro]

#📿gacha-salt🧂 message me when this happens

[sweet flax]

ye t piece is 20/17, its really just my m piece carrying my stats

need affix locks :\

[rapid socket]

Is this worth using yet or just hold?

[shadow gyro]

it wont go anywhere so u can keep as much as you want

[rapid socket]

Sweet, will hold onto it then

[sweet flax]

think I should take a gamble?

[shadow gyro]

too risky rn, ill wait after ur ok with this cycle

so u can affix while its horb boss

[sweet flax]

im done my runs

[shadow gyro]

well then sure

[sweet flax]

wait lemme buy some stabilizers from the treasures shop

[shadow gyro]

alr

[shadow gyro]

time to gamble

[sweet flax]

[shadow gyro]

lmaoo

[sweet flax]

I ran out of locks

[shadow gyro]

my paws needs that bio atk 😭

oh btw i unlocked this a bit ago, it says its 5 atk but i got 10, is that a typo or smth

[sweet flax]

should be a typo

only stellar key dupes give 5

[shadow gyro]

oh ok im not tweaking

[sweet flax]

normal syncs give 10

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[shadow gyro]

ely thinks she can change types smh

[sweet flax]

should've gotten that affix device from box fr

[shadow gyro]

😭 t

[sweet flax]

ok but actually im being trolled no?

[shadow gyro]

wtf this is not cn

this game trolls me more bc i keep getting psy atk n cd on hle

[sweet flax]

I love affixes in hi3

[shadow gyro]

fr

[sweet flax]

people be asking for soft pity on banners I want pity on affixes lmfao

😭 wrong sd characters

[shadow gyro]

they should either get rid of the garbage affixes or let me guarantee the affixes i want after some rolls ffs

[sweet flax]

holy everyone but elysia sd affix

[shadow gyro]

i have nothing on horb btw
how am i gonna use s0 horb next cycle but my hle is still not done

[sweet flax]

omg I forgot about horb affixes

[shadow gyro]

[sweet flax]

😭 SHE'S FUCKING COOKED

[shadow gyro]

i ❤️ this game

[sweet flax]

s2 base attack save me

I got 22 archers 23 psy

IM NOT BUILDING HOHE FFS WRONG ELYSIA

[shadow gyro]

peak trolling

like the pulling session was better

[sweet flax]

I just need one line, I dont care if its 18 atk

ok stea hear me out

[shadow gyro]

my standards too low i would be happy with 12 atk

[sweet flax]

how bad would it be if I delayed my hoo ranks

for this

[deep dew]

this is my returnee account, can anyone help me tell if it's worth keeping or should I start over for the new player rewards?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749956549870354482/1432004544514228425/Screenshot_2025-10-26_204858.png?ex=68ff79a8&is=68fe2828&hm=0200087cd1c739f6794b752d93af00e381d2bae56629609d692ae4b35d93d386&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=527&height=656
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749956549870354482/1432004544979533902/Screenshot_2025-10-26_204833.png?ex=68ff79a8&is=68fe2828&hm=0cfa5526a7dcbced44695212d2cd42d630aee4222a4c30e8fb9e6a31ad50acf1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1044&height=565
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749956549870354482/1432004545424392243/Screenshot_2025-10-26_204826.png?ex=68ff79a8&is=68fe2828&hm=b22e7c15582e83d41e12e1f7c9b2814f80b86bb083e2c265af457ce8dfd7e361&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1044&height=554

i cant create an imgur account 💔

[sweet flax]

you can just post the images as they are

to be honest discord is banned here so I cant see the images since it opens the website, have to use a proxy to get the app to work

[deep dew]

i tried imgur cause the guide said too many screenshots will get the message deleted

[sweet flax]

5 images should be fine

[deep dew]

oh

[sweet flax]

try and see if it works, otherwise wait for someone else to respond ig

[shadow gyro]

hmm ik that wafers the best pick from here but like unless ur hoo is close to ss or smth u can delay it
chances u will still disappoint urself, i would wait a bit then see if u rlly need the atk for the next bosses

[deep dew]

I don't have the option to post images

[shadow gyro]

get it from #rules-en

[sweet flax]

hoh? she already ss 💀 im saying hoo

[shadow gyro]

i fixed it bruh

my brain is shut off rn

[sweet flax]

lemme check how close

cuz I got one more stamp in er left

[shadow gyro]

good idea

[sweet flax]

nvm 2 stamps in er

sooo....

[shadow gyro]

lemme check the boss rq

[sweet flax]

is there a way I can sneak in 4 more hoo shards

[shadow gyro]

i dont see a hoo boss soon so maybe u can delay it a bit

[sweet flax]

its 750 pwo a week right? as long as there is nothing for 3/4 weeks that needs hoo ranks I will be fine

[shadow gyro]

reserve (dont)

[sweet flax]

unironically I could I buy bp

[shadow gyro]

lmao

[deep dew]

finally lol tysm asumara

[sweet flax]

are you planning on being competitive btw grim

or more of a casual player

if you plan on being competitive this is definitely a restart angle

[deep dew]

nah just casual, i really dont have enough time nowadays to play i just missed the game so i came back

[sweet flax]

ah then why do you care about restarting its fine

usually the restart advice is to get a fresh start for newer units in order to catch up with the meta

[deep dew]

cuz with my old valks it could be hard to pass current contents idk

and i think newer units are more fun to play with

[shadow gyro]

plus u can technically use vita when u need it, for agony/sinful shenanigans its fine

[sweet flax]

its up to you to be honest

[deep dew]

i mean shes the only one i have so it would prob be hard if i needed multiple teams

[sweet flax]

you can defo sit fine in a2/a3 so if you dont mind playing the patience game you can catch up

[deep dew]

im just indecisive 🥀

[sweet flax]

ill tell you rn tho, the only valk you have that is no longer obtainable is just asuka, you can reroll for vita when carnival banner comes if you really want her and would have the same valk collection as you do now

[shadow gyro]

honestly bc u wanna be casual just keep the account
if u think u wanna be very competitive then keep that acc for collection fun and grind on the other

[sweet flax]

so if asuka is a deal breaker then I would not restart

[deep dew]

o i was hesitant about investing the very little time i have on this account lol since im not caught up with the game for so long now

[shadow gyro]

u can always make a new acc when ur sure u wanna be competitive
if u wont keep up with a competitive acc then i suggest do it later when ur sure u can

[sweet flax]

actually what is there in reserve to get anyways lol
I already have all the dkeys, all the valks + their gear
I guess lantern weapon when she comes but I will just buy the next bp anyways

[shadow gyro]

well if theres no stig or wp u want a dupe for for ma then u might as well get the ranks from reserve

[sweet flax]

tbh I could care less about ma, I still get top rewards without any p1 strats anyways

mainly looking for crystals

[shadow gyro]

then yeah u can get the ranks

[sweet flax]

aight buying the affix locks

[shadow gyro]

gl soldier 🫡

[sweet flax]

wait let me see if I can secure s2 thel or not so I can get more affix locks

600 affix locks 😋

[shadow gyro]

i have locks but no ncc rn mmm

well i can get the asterite ones but...

[sweet flax]

carnival gets me to 38920 right?

unless I go for horb dkey dupes not getting thel s2, aight ive seen enough, 600 more locks

[shadow gyro]

yes

[dapper tundra]

what team can i do for elysia rn

[sweet flax]

hle paws vita

[shadow gyro]

what p2 valks got their wp/dkey

[sweet flax]

if your hohe has her dkey then replace vita with hohe

[shadow gyro]

mhm

[sweet flax]

do I just take it atp

[shadow gyro]

although is vita os buffs better than vbm with weather effects?

[dapper tundra]

temporary take it

[shadow gyro]

i say yes to any tiny increase to atk

[shadow gyro]

wtf

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[shadow gyro]

well i blessed u
bless me pls

[dapper tundra]

i still have to get elysia's weapon

[sweet flax]

get blessed

[shadow gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/glorious-omg-wow-wonderful-fountain-gif-20426433

[sweet flax]

one more mountain left to climb

[dapper tundra]

its just that 1st one

[shadow gyro]

u can do itttt

[shadow gyro]

okay i go complete hw (doubtful) and suffer in abyss byeee

[sweet flax]

welp good enough

dkeys get me to 1493 when the time comes

[dapper tundra]

I only have 4 built characters for part 2:/

[sweet flax]

newer player?

[dapper tundra]

last nov

[sweet flax]

gl! (with homework, if you have paws I refuse to wish you luck in abyss)

[shadow gyro]

WHYY

[sweet flax]

paws players are cringe

[shadow gyro]

in suffering in nirv with no gacha op bro

u took all of my luck bro

[dapper tundra]

i do not know hi3 terms

[shadow gyro]

ok i go now

[sweet flax]

gl

[sweet flax]

abbreviations wise there is a glossary in pins

[shadow gyro]

u better mean it

[sweet flax]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714508704418103436/1141759964210282637/finallyhappy.gif

my lawyers have advised me not to comment further

[dapper tundra]

oof

[sweet flax]

anyways, could you specify more wdym by you dont know the terms

[dapper tundra]

hle and paws

[sweet flax]

hle is the new elysia, when we abbreviate we take the first letter of each word/syllable from their name

so in her case: Hi! Love Elf

[dapper tundra]

ohh

i just got elysia last thursday

[sweet flax]

the reason we cant name her just le is because lightning empress was an older suit and got the abbreviation first

so we add the h in the beginning to differentiate

[dapper tundra]

i havent touched the game since then

[sweet flax]

that's good, try to get her weapon at least

[dapper tundra]

ye i will

i got all of her stigmatas

just the weapon

[sweet flax]

and paws, the s rank helia we got, same idea
planar armament: warped spacetime, just take the first letter of each word p a w s

[dapper tundra]

i do not have a subweapon for her so shes stuck with a starter weapon

[dapper tundra]

its very long

[sweet flax]

the glossary compiles all of these and lets you use your browser's search feature to quickly gloss through it

[sweet flax]

some people refer to her as pa

also some valks might have other names to go by than just their battlesuit

such as eepy teri (schicksal imperative, because I refuse to call her simp)

[upbeat egret]

@shadow gyro

[sweet flax]

as long as you make it clear which valk you are talking about it doesnt matter how you name them

just avoid going "is kiana meta" when she has like 10 different battlesuits xd

[rose holly]

When does carnival supply arrive

[hollow stream]

whats the use of valk egg s

[sweet flax]

#💁gameplay-help pins has the schedule

[sweet flax]

check pins of this channel, there is a whole section dedicated to it

[dapper tundra]

teri

[hollow stream]

oh lord...

[sweet flax]

its pretty straightforward, but its to avoid confusion and make sure you get the most value out of your choice

the valks themselves have no meta use cases, and you mainly wanna prioritise the ones available in elysian realm for the one time crystals they have

[dapper tundra]

whats the fastest ways to grind crystals

i grind very slow

[sweet flax]

check the crystals pin, it has a bunch of one time sources
aside from that your usual sources are your bi-weekly abyss runs and weekly elysian realm deep sequence runs

[rose holly]

I meant like, precisely

[sweet flax]

oh-

[quick birch]

tomorrow

[sweet flax]

btw mango
ss vita, s2 fws, ss1 ps, s2 spookel
which would you say has more value

im assuming between ss vita or s2 fws

[dapper tundra]

i spam kiana way too much

i grinded 9k crystals just for kiana and did not get her until 8 before garanteed-

i got paws in my 1st 10 pull and the weapon all at once

[sweet flax]

better than me, I got fws on the 90th pull and her weapon on the 60th lol

[dapper tundra]

got got hle with the free 10pull

[sweet flax]

anyways, I think we are getting off topic here atp
might as well end it here to leave the channel open incase someone wants to ask any questions

[dapper tundra]

i doubled the " got"

[sweet flax]

[dapper tundra]

aight

does vita's signature do anything to her ult buff?

i didnt manage to get her signature last december

[sweet flax]

she boosts her own personal damage and adds vulnerability debuffs

nothing specifically for the ult

[upbeat egret]

S2 badum is a scam

[dapper tundra]

i was supposed to get sparkle back then

[spiral badge]

The main utility of vitas weapon is the ari regen on the first stellar drain but the importance of it is situational at best

[fluid grove]

is the pity system in hi3 similar to genshin at all? so if the weapon is guaranteed in 60 pulls if i am 40 pulls in are my chances higher? like does the chance grow 40/50 pulls in?

[spiral badge]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[dapper tundra]

im missing on 15% more dmg

[gilded scroll]

Is Hof still worth it

[sweet flax]

had a feeling but wasnt sure, so basically go for ss vita in carnival

[spiral badge]

Which hof

[gilded scroll]

Herrscher of flameschion

[spiral badge]

She is now farmable

[sweet flax]

no hawk of the fog fu hua is not worth it
no herrscher of flamescion is not worth it
no herrscher of finality is not worth it

[dapper tundra]

i use her

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[quick birch]

they're all not really crazy from what i can see, what's probably notable is the extra stellar drain consumed by vita's first CA in WoD but that also feels rather niche tbh, fws s2 sounds nice if you care about MA and also improves her enemy link dmg

i'd say it's up to you really

[gilded scroll]

Dang hofi is suck eh?💔

[sweet flax]

hofi is reliant on her dkey and is not a good investment at this point

and in cases where trio weather is a thing, you need ranks to compete with older trio players

[spiral badge]

Hofi still has her uses of you already have her and her new dkey. But it's just not worth catching up on

[upbeat egret]

I would say yes... s2 sparkle is barely better than S0 ...she gives more sp to the teammate and its only matter in MA.. we rarely use it in abyss imo

[dapper tundra]

i want to collect all kiana and bronya:D

[fluid grove]

do u guys think i can make 35 pulls in 40 days if i play everyday

[dapper tundra]

possibly yeah

if you do everything

[sweet flax]

hear me out best rank trust

[spiral badge]

Check the crystal pin to assess for sources you haven't done yet

if you're more new then yes probably

[fluid grove]

i find ER very boring and the story aswell. and voyage logs arent worth it imo cuz they only give 4 pulls so i am kinda bricked

[upbeat egret]

Is it ss1?

[dapper tundra]

when i was new i got 9k crystals in a swift from a book in the middle of the screen

[sweet flax]

ye, im obv not going for it 2.5% bleed dmg bonus 😭

[upbeat egret]

[fluid grove]

i dont have any beginner events or anything my acc is from 2021 im just a returnee xD

[dapper tundra]

2.5% is not worth it

[sweet flax]

ill go for vita rank up and if I get lucky maybe fws too

[dapper tundra]

oh

[fluid grove]

i expect to finish the returnee event tomorrow and get 300 crystals

[dapper tundra]

use the returnee codes

[upbeat egret]

How can u be so optimistic with only 20 pull

[gilded scroll]

Is hohe still worth it?

[sweet flax]

because ches cursed my curse

[sweet flax]

same idea as hofi, reliant on dkey
needs ranks to be competitive (EXTREMELY RELIANT on thelema as well)
also dog shit unit to be quite frank with you

[dapper tundra]

is the hor dkey good

[gilded scroll]

Should i pick hot or hohe

[sweet flax]

depends, it is impactful in higher abyss where +10 atk can make a difference
but if you dont have the crystals for both hle + dkey, then ditch the dkey

[amber finch]

dogshit is overselling her

[sweet flax]

depends on the state of your account

[dapper tundra]

for no reason i have hot's signature

[gilded scroll]

For new player?

[dapper tundra]

i forgot how i got it

[gilded scroll]

IM currently have new elysia battlesuit hofi and badum that all i remember

[sweet flax]

hold onto the box until you find use for any of them

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

fyi both hotr and hohe (without dkey) are just not usable in the meta scene

[sweet flax]

if you are desperate for crystals you can unlock one of them for elysian realm crystals, but it makes no difference in terms of abyss

[sweet flax]

erm akshually, trio weather, starless rimestar 🤓

[amber finch]

where the hell is a new player getting hofi and hoo from

[gilded scroll]

How get dkey of hofi or hohe?

[amber finch]

also lemme type damn asu

[sweet flax]

xd

[amber finch]

gacha-ing, they’re not on banner rn

[outer spruce]

gacha only, both not available right now

[gilded scroll]

Oki

[sweet flax]

gacha only at the moment, and they are not obtainable for the time being

[amber finch]

and no we dont know when they’ll rerun

[dapper tundra]

very ovious of what i spam

[gilded scroll]

So hot or hohe ;-;

[amber finch]

.

again, not usable or anything, best would be for you to save the box and wait til you’re missing only one of them to open it or just save it for collection because both of them are obtainable from bp

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[dapper tundra]

find valks that can pair well with the ones you use

[gilded scroll]

Ok

[amber finch]

hotr and hohe (without dkey) especially uninvested at all bc you’re new is just a cool decoration for your account

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

you only get them for elysian realm crystals

oh and dorm exp

[dapper tundra]

i have hohe lvl 80 but her stig and weapons

[gilded scroll]

Oh

Is it bad if i choose hohe?-

[amber finch]

already told you many times now, it doesnt matter

[gilded scroll]

Ok

IM going choose hohe

[amber finch]

you dont have to open the box btw

the game doesnt force you to open it

just a fyi

[amber finch]

@gilded scroll

[dapper tundra]

am choosing hot for collection if i get it

[gilded scroll]

Ok

[dapper tundra]

keep it for now

[amber finch]

try to chat in #🎮honkai-chat next time if you have no further questions btw

you’re confusing the new player

[dapper tundra]

aight

[gilded scroll]

Well Ima keep it then

IM gonna decided who to pick soon maybe

I wanna pull flawless Benediction if is Rerun ;-;

[amber finch]

is this a meta or a simp thing

if its meta then i’d advise against it

[gilded scroll]

Well i don't really care much about meta

If i found it cool then it is

[amber finch]

oh then do whatever you want (you being a meta player helps with your crystals income btw)

crystals = gacha currency

[gilded scroll]

Well IM not playing hi3 too much busy with school rn

IM just casual player

[amber finch]

oh ok, also just a small question bc im dying to know, why do you have to capitalize im everytime you chat btw

its ok if you dont answer, its just me being curious

[gilded scroll]

Well

[dapper tundra]

same

[carmine cypress]

whats the performance difference between ss ely elf, mc astralop and the current astralop on banner in terms of buffing love elf?

[amber finch]

s chen> ds=4* ely elf (depends on the boss)

[gilded scroll]

Well why not-

[amber finch]

elfs have no ranks btw

if your ely elf isnt 4* then just use ds

[amber finch]

they use a star system

[carmine cypress]

i see thanks

i forgot about that

[gilded scroll]

Man i love hi3-

[carmine cypress]

shes 28/50 and next upgrade puts it to 4 stars

[amber finch]

if you have no further questions then you can chat with the hi3 community in #🎮honkai-chat btw

[gilded scroll]

Oki

[amber finch]

and are you upgrading her? or is that it

if thats just it then use ds instead

[carmine cypress]

im upgrading her overtime with spending events

so ye ill use her soon

[amber finch]

you use 4* ely depending on the boss anyways so its not always

[floral lake]

HLE weapon is not dkey right

[amber finch]

it is not

[floral lake]

so should i do it

[amber finch]

no downsides, higher atk more multipliers

always pri arm your weapons unless you want to have a disadvantage

[floral lake]

and prettier look too

[amber finch]

ask here before you pri arm anything tho bc you seem kinda clueless

[floral lake]

nah i was just wondering if it was dkey cuz hohe's new was dkey

my priarms looks like this

[knotty gulch]

should i get the new ely (and her set if im lucky) or the horb set?? i have vita and badum kiana 4/4

[amber finch]

hle better

horb dkey is mid anyways

[amber finch]

also wdym “if im lucky”

fyi you only need to pull for her weapon

stop immediately when you get weap

if you dont have the crystals to afford valk and weap then i’d recommend hoarding up and waiting before you pull

[knotty gulch]

yea but depends when i get it if im lucky i get it instantly if not i have to farm a pity

[gilded scroll]

Is horb still worth it

[dapper tundra]

eh

[amber finch]

like worth spending 30 usd for the box that has her in it? no unless you really want her or is a whale that really needs the frags for myriad (t100 of the highest scoring players in the server in abyss)

[gilded scroll]

No like her char ;-;

[amber finch]

fyi you cant pull for her now, its quite literally impossible

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

and i told you about her char and the current only way to get it

[amber finch]

.

[gilded scroll]

Oooo

[shadow gyro]

tyyy 🛐🛐🛐🙏🙏
ill report back when im done with what im doing rn

[dapper tundra]

since hofi is in dorm theres a chance of her there too ig

[gilded scroll]

Horb Gon get rework or sum? That make her almost impossible to get?

[dapper tundra]

pray hahahahhaaahaah

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

the rework is already out

[floral lake]

i was wondering if i should PRIARM hotr, fov(new fuhua) and SI weapon but i think its lowkey useless cuz theyre not used anywhere except maybe MA

[gilded scroll]

So horb not gonna meta anymore?

[amber finch]

its her dkey

[knotty gulch]

prob with passes like hoh

[dapper tundra]

new sig weapon

[amber finch]

she is meta again because of the dkey (albeit she is also as mid as hohe)

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

guys, please dont help the new player if you are not well informed

[gilded scroll]

Her dkey is with elysia new battlesuit signature?

[amber finch]

i really appreciate the help but its still misinfo so i cant let that slide

[amber finch]

yes it is in equipment supply B

[gilded scroll]

Should i pull for her wep or new elysia sig

[amber finch]

get hle + weap instead of dkey, you literally have no use for the dkey why would you pull for it

and you said “ely weap” that means you already got the char right? then why would you skip weap

[gilded scroll]

Oo

[amber finch]

fyi valkyries in this game are very very reliant on their gears

[dapper tundra]

fr

[amber finch]

skipping weap is just a bad idea no matter what

[gilded scroll]

Well i was mean like her astral op skill need that wep or no?

[gilded scroll]

Ok

[amber finch]

are we talking about horb or hle

[gilded scroll]

Horb

[dapper tundra]

my vita is stuck with that one store weapon

[gilded scroll]

Dang-

[amber finch]

if its horb then yes, all of her p2 skills and stuffs are locked to the astral ring system which in turns need the dkey for horb to be one, just like hohe

[outer spruce]

but you don't have the character so spending 60 pulls isn't worth it

[gilded scroll]

Well i might soon

Im going to pull for her if she rerun

[amber finch]

again, please dont get the dkey if you dont have horb or her teammates

[dapper tundra]

and hofi

[gilded scroll]

Ok then

[amber finch]

again, she’s not rerunning anymore

[outer spruce]

she's too old for reruns

[amber finch]

she is cut off from the rerun patterns now

currently the only way for you to get her is by spending 30 USD on that scam box that i told you about

[dapper tundra]

the reruns are all astral rings

[gilded scroll]

Aight too much reply is kinda make me dizzy- which to read ;-;

[odd plume]

your best chance is wait for her to be free or farmable, god know when

[glad coral]

are elves or dreamseeker better for astralop?

[dapper tundra]

wdym?

[amber finch]

tldr:

• pulling for dkey—> no
• pull for horb rerun—> not possible she is too old for that
• should you get horb dkey —> NO

[gilded scroll]

Oo

[quick birch]

Depends on the team and which elf you're using with it

Though usually it's not that big of a difference so sticking with DS is just fine

[gilded scroll]

Hohe and hofi no longer meta

[glad coral]

horb team with new dkey with project bunny

[amber finch]

they are, i literally said that 10 minutes ago

[glad coral]

I see thanks

[quick birch]

They are meta just niche

[gilded scroll]

Ik IM just dissapointed;-;

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[amber finch]

why is hohe and hofi meta (relevant in abyss but not insanely good)

• hoyo gave them dkeys (waxing moon and flawless benediction)
• the dkeys give them the astral ring system
• higher multipliers and stuffs for them
  —> meta but very niche

[quick birch]

And just because something is meta doesn't mean you should pull them, in hi3 you want to invest into the future meta before its arrival and get valks at their peak value ( release ) instead trying to backpull the current meta

[amber finch]

horb is also the same

consensus: just because its considered meta doesnt mean it’s worth it to pull for

is badum meta? very
is she worth it to pull for nowadays? very debatable but generally no for most players

[gilded scroll]

Oh

Well i got badum on Accident tbh

And Its my first S tier

[amber finch]

cool

[gilded scroll]

Well yea i mean like i was so happy like so happy

And well what worth to pull for beginner

[amber finch]

you already got her, hle

get her weapon now

[gilded scroll]

IM trying

[amber finch]

pulling pins

[gilded scroll]

On pity 35 or 36

[amber finch]

cool

[gilded scroll]

Do u know when waxing moon gonna Rerun?

[amber finch]

nope

[gilded scroll]

Prediction?

[quick birch]

It just reran recently so probably not any time soon

[amber finch]

not worth it for you to go for waxing btw

[quick birch]

Who knows though hoyo is kinda random with their reruns

[amber finch]

be dawei’s only child for that

[gilded scroll]

Oh

[gilded scroll]

Dang.

Aaaaa hohe and hofi was so cool but sadly they are in dorm crate now

[amber finch]

i dont think hohe is in dorm supply

[quick birch]

She is

[gilded scroll]

It is inside dorm supply

[amber finch]

oh thats nice

[gilded scroll]

Ive been grind so much crystall for gacha hofi just to make her end up in dorm crate ;-;

[amber finch]

oh small question, is your account a returnee account or is it a new account

[amber finch]

you cant even get her even if she was in dorm so

[gilded scroll]

Well kinda returnee and new

[amber finch]

same case with horb, way too old for reruns

[gilded scroll]

Ive been play since badum fiery

[amber finch]

im not asking about you, im asking about your account

does it have the returnee event

[gilded scroll]

Oh well

Yes

[amber finch]

or is it a completely new account

[analog stump]

I just returned to this game and got the new elysia but i dont have any characters that the game suggest,whats the best team comp i can use

[amber finch]

oh nice have you used an invite code yet

[gilded scroll]

Nop actually idk how it work

[amber finch]

17031105VD

use it—> you get crystals—> you just play the game normally—> i get crystals

win win on both ends

[gilded scroll]

Ohh

How much crystall we both got

[amber finch]

@quick birch help him with cope im too schewpid for that

[amber finch]

you get 60 and i get 300 or smt

[floral lake]

will it count on the spending event if i pull on outfit gacha (badum kiana outfit)

[amber finch]

should count

[gilded scroll]

Ok

Well what char that good for beginner

[amber finch]

already told you, hle

[gilded scroll]

Other than that

[amber finch]

to pull for or to use

[gilded scroll]

Both

[quick birch]

If you really want to play HLE DPS the beginner rot in the pins is your best shot, you're probably better off playing other DPS teams with HLE as a support though something like,
Sena/Hle/sparkle
Sparkle/Sena/hl
Lantern/Hle/sena

Assuming they all have their weapon that is

[gilded scroll]

Actually for pull and use

:]

[amber finch]

currently none

hle is the best choice for a new player and you already got her

so just save for next patch

[gilded scroll]

Oh

Is coralie or helia good for beginner

[amber finch]

the A ranks? yeah they’re farmable so just get them, also i heavily recommend checking this channel’s pinned messages

[gilded scroll]

No no

[amber finch]

for your team just use:
hle badum coralie

[gilded scroll]

S tier one

[amber finch]

dont pull for the S ranks i already told you this

please dont try to repeat already answered questions captain

[gilded scroll]

Yes.

[amber finch]

its very redundant and inefficient for both of us

[gilded scroll]

Well ion have smth to do oh well

[dapper tundra]

Helia is kinda tho

[gilded scroll]

Dang-

[amber finch]

then dont waste my time

[gilded scroll]

I just wanna make sure mb

[amber finch]

ok bai chat can a lurking regular take my shift

[amber finch]

its fine just be mindful next time

[gilded scroll]

Ok

[amber finch]

if you wanna be sure then just ask it straight up

[gilded scroll]

Well

[amber finch]

dont beat around the bush and then return to an already answered question

[gilded scroll]

IM jokin dw dw

[amber finch]

already answered

[gilded scroll]

Well IM slept peace

[upper laurel]

So what do I do when I get multiple copies of the same stigmata?

[lone crater]

can salvage

[lucid maple]

Do I get anything in hi3? Cuz its my birthday lol

[wind trout]

I need help, i returned to the game and got the new elysia but i only have old valks, which valks do you guys recommend to lvl up/build

[outer spruce]

yeah you get a birthday cake in your inbox ingame

[lucid maple]

Yey

[lucid maple]

Thankies

[upbeat egret]

Ur welcome..
Good luck

[kind cliff]

can we ask about future banners here, like pull plans

[shadow gyro]

ty again
im currently in myriad hopefully i survive it asi cant play anymore today
unfortunately 11th in my bracket theyre too hard to beat

[shadow gyro]

if its in the schedule in #💁gameplay-help or #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion then sure else we dont know

[upbeat egret]

How much did u get?
I hope u can myriad atleast

[shadow gyro]

this
and yeah hopefully

my back hurts sm so i must rest now

[upper laurel]

is the only thing to do with duplicate prismatic stigmatas salvage?

[shadow gyro]

yeah

[gusty bolt]

Hello, I've recently discovered that certain event bridges can be obtained from the store using crystals though this is by rotation or during certain times, I can't seem to find more info on that but can someone please explain it to me?

[outer spruce]

just salvage, most part 2 stigs are very character specific

so they're not useful for anyone else

or you can save until you need the prisms later

[upbeat egret]

Amagad u beat slackmate.( teammate) ...proud of u

Glad that I could help

[kind cliff]

if i only got vita sena cora dudu (not paws or the dragon cora one)

do i go for cora or ely? i have like... no pulls rn since ijust used em lal on ely

[spiral badge]

if you want a more technical answer, there can be very very rare cases for dupes.

• Each stigmata can carry different affixes, so you may want a different affix setup for different scenarios on the same character (e.g. sp restoration instead of atk)
  • ofc it wouldn't be really worthwhile to upgrade that dupe. You can determine a least benefiting stig to use as the unupgraded dupe.
• each prism stig have one generic line. Sometimes these generic lines can have potential budget uses (senadina's m stigmata buffs team weapon elemental damage. a dupe of it may be ok to slap on a separate team very early on for memorial arena)

if you really want to be careful, only salvage when you need to, prioritizing trashing 3rd dupes if that makes sense.

But overall it's fine to trash. At worst you can pay another 2 prisms and ether fuel to craft it back

[shadow gyro]

hle if u can afford gear
else skip

[desert beacon]

what are the codes for?? america room 1 r giving them out

[upper laurel]

Sure, and I have to assume once im at the point hwere im crafting ones from scratch I could just....craft the one thats actually the bis for the person, and not "a random one thats kind of good"

[spiral badge]

for newer valks yeah

[shadow gyro]

if u mean redeem codes then u get rewards like crystals and asteries n such
otherwise theres invite codes that if u use and do its task u and that player who send their code gets crystals

[spiral badge]

but also there can rare situations where you wouldn't use the signature piece but rather some off piece instead for a very specific purpose (mainly in memorial arena)

overall nothing you need to be concerned specifically for now, esp when such details may become obsolete or changed in the future. If you still want to know i can get back to you later. g2g for now

[kind cliff]

oh wait i got 40 days left O:
that's a lot of days
tysm!

[desert beacon]

these 😭 these. they spammed it a bit but thats all

[quick birch]

Those are invite codes only new players and returnees can use them

The person to which the code belongs then gets rewards after the other person did some quests

So they're just doing this to get some extra crystals

[maiden garden]

Why can I get more helia ults in astral mode with her as support vs when I use her as dps 😭

[ancient needle]

Probably cuz you aren't running 2 Symbiosis supports with PAWS DPS

[desert beacon]

i havent completely done story yet. does story give a lot of crystals in a short time? i really want this elysia 😭

[ancient needle]

Part 1 story yes

Part 2 story not really

[maiden garden]

I was running new ely and vbm
Maybe some rotation issue but I got one eba with helia as dps vs almost 3 with helia as support

[quick birch]

Paws sadly can't do 2 CAs without 2 symbioses chars in SO

[ancient needle]

There also are other solid one-time crystal sources, like ER and Expeditions

!faq crystals

[small willow]

One-time Crystal Sources

Ai-chan is here, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the One-time Crystal Sources pin!

Also Click here for Professor Sairaan's Crystal Sources Spreadsheet!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[desert beacon]

ive done those already so im just looking for some other way to hustle. luckily i didnt do part 1 story in full yet

[ancient needle]

Will you be able to afford her weap as well though

Because if not, it's better to skip

[maiden garden]

Aren't new ely and vbm considered two symbiosis chars?

[desert beacon]

uhh im pretty sure i have 30 pulls until i get her and then 30 pulls until i get weap

[ancient needle]

VBm doesn't have Symbiosis

She only has Omniscient Star and Domain Resonance

[desert beacon]

does the pity counter also contribute to the stigmata or no? because i only have 2 out of 3 or just the weapon?

[ancient needle]

The pity counter is only for the weap

[quick birch]

So you'd either just ult x3 -> CA -> ult or activate SO -> switch to HoHe -> WA/basics until you can cast her ult -> back to paws -> ult x 4 -> CA -> ult if you want to squeeze out another ilt

[maiden garden]

Oh i thought since the blue thingy glowed during teambuilding so she would be able to fulfill that role

So why can I do 2 cba with paws as support
I wanna know since it seems interesting

[desert beacon]

theres no 50/50 is there?

[ancient needle]

Nope

[desert beacon]

yay thanks!!

[ancient needle]

Because PAWS's ult cost isn't bumped up to 300 when she's a supp

[maiden garden]

I see

[maiden garden]

Ohhhhhh makes sense

Thanks

[quick birch]

You actually don't want to do 2 CAs when paws is a support, in your current roster you'd just CA -> ult with paws in SO to generate SP for Ely

[maiden garden]

Haha I just like her animations for that so I just ended up spamming that 😭

Besides still 10 pulls away from ely weapon so can't really run her as dps rn gotta wait sometime

[ancient needle]

• the first ult (and the finisher) are free

[desert beacon]

does memorial arena give crystals?

[ancient needle]

Yes, but not much

Still worth doing ofc

[lapis mason]

If i want to replay all of honkai impact part 1, i would have to create a new account to redo the open world chapters or is there also a way to replay thoose

[serene crystal]

You would need to do it from a fresh account but you can just switch server on your current account and it will work the same as a new account as all gameplay is done locally there is no real cost to playing on a server far from your current placement.

[mental coral]

hey i have question how much pull do i need to spend to get thelma from the 800 coins

[quick birch]

44.8k so 160 pulls

[mental coral]

alright lemme see how much coins i have from what i already pulled then i wanna know much i still neeed to spend

[amber finch]

here you go

[mental coral]

thank i love u

u think i can get her as a f2p

[amber finch]

saying that wont do anything, there are players who dont spend and save up too

[thorny belfry]

im sorry if this is a stupid question but where can i do expeditions for this quest?

[amber finch]

should be in dorm expedition

[thorny belfry]

these?

[amber finch]

yeah

[thorny belfry]

tyvm! :D

[amber finch]

if it doesnt work then its normal expedition

[thorny belfry]

it is this one, ty for the help

[mental coral]

im talking as someone who didnt save

[amber finch]

what ya at rn

[mental coral]

150...

[amber finch]

150 xtals spent?

[mental coral]

no

[amber finch]

150 what

[mental coral]

8,400

[tall flax]

Balance

[glad ice]

150 token?

[mental coral]

yes