👶beginner-help

[ancient needle]

Yes

[thick bolt]

!faq rates

[small willow]

The Data Behind Battlesuit Gacha Rates

So, you want to learn the Dark Arts, Captain?

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) for the details of how the Gacha System works and how the expenses of the Part 1 and Part 2 systems compare.

Does Soft Pity Exist?
Data suggests that it does exist (starting at 76 pulls), but it is not confirmed anywhere by HoYoverse so we can't be 100% sure.

Averages and Worst Cases (Valkyrie + All Gear)

• Part 1 vs 2 Average - 140 Pulls (40k ) vs 78 pulls (22k )
• Part 2 "Soft pity valk" + average wep 106 pulls (30k )
• Worst Case:
• Part 1 vs 2 Max - 300 pulls (84k ) vs 150 pulls (42k )

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[mossy drift]

I know eden

[amber finch]

thanks mango i was trying to come up with something

[thick bolt]

massive improvement from before

[quick birch]

she is literally used on bull its not even funny

[mossy drift]

from?

[quick birch]

how didnt i think of immortal women

[amber finch]

has always been is even more f2p with p2

[amber finch]

p1

[mossy drift]

i also wanted to ask, who is the girl who floats with her sword? but she sits on it so ik its not sushang..

[amber finch]

uhh

herrscher of sentince?

[thick bolt]

what the lmao

[quick birch]

extremly niche btw nothing you should take into consideration ever

[amber finch]

is she using like a big ass sword and she uses it like a surfing board

[glad ice]

black magic then

[mossy drift]

no not her i thibk shes a new srank

[amber finch]

new s rank with sword

[mossy drift]

nono, i still know hos and she was my favourite at the time

[thick bolt]

dudu?
surfs on a hoverboard, runs as admin?

[amber finch]

is she short and blonde

[mossy drift]

I think she is iirc

[amber finch]

its mini dudu

[sweet flax]

her?

[amber finch]

not owned L

[mossy drift]

not dudu, also, i havent seen her getting any new frame if thats whats it called iirc

[amber finch]

poor

[sweet flax]

I dont pull mid

[thick bolt]

https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Reign_Solaris

[amber finch]

nuh uh

[mossy drift]

wait did they fix the backgroundv

[sweet flax]

hold my wallet I need to get a screenshot

[amber finch]

too bad it flew away

[muted shoal]

The only one I can think of that sits on the sword is Dudu elf

[sweet flax]

oh nooo....

[glad ice]

sir fbi its that guy

[amber finch]

ye

[mossy drift]

so much new things

[amber finch]

can you uh give me smt more descriptive

[quick birch]

yeah take your time and if you have any questions ask

[amber finch]

her hair color or smt

[quick birch]

it can be a lot and extremly overwhelming

[amber finch]

oh wait short and blonde

[mossy drift]

i forgot her hair color but i think she was lighting or something

[amber finch]

waht the

[glad ice]

background is unified into colored space with gs/hsr

[amber finch]

lightning with a sword

[muted shoal]

?

[amber finch]

yeah not a new valk

[mossy drift]

not that girl is she durandal?

[amber finch]

yea

[quick birch]

dudu elf yes

[frozen crypt]

Wedge?

Xd

[sweet flax]

so you are looking for a valk who uses a sword and has animations where she sits on it?
old sushang? (jk)

[mossy drift]

iirc

i swear ive seen something

[lyric anvil]

Another elf

[quick birch]

do you know her color scheme

[sweet flax]

was it her?

[ancient needle]

Are you 1000% certain it's specifically a sword?

[mossy drift]

wait lowkey im giggling because u guys r so dedicated to help me

[muted shoal]

The last sword valk was HoO

[sweet flax]

WE ARE CURIOUS NOW

[mossy drift]

nope not her

[quick birch]

ITS ITCHING

[sweet flax]

me when ps

[glad ice]

u sure its from honkai impact and not honkai star rail?

[sweet flax]

oh wait I guess that's an umbrella

[mossy drift]

ok guys i will try to find her real quick

[muted shoal]

She be using an umbrella that doesn't count

[mossy drift]

no, how would i mistake those two games? lmfao

[ancient needle]

You'd be surprised

[muted shoal]

scroll there for all releases
https://honkaiimpact3.fandom.com/wiki/Update_Log

[sweet flax]

people think hi3 characters are inspired by star rail

[mossy drift]

oh wait, i think i know now

[muted shoal]

sparkle

[sweet flax]

that's an expy

[glad ice]

collab

[quick birch]

go on

[mossy drift]

Shes like a goddess, grayish hair Colors: yellow and black

[sweet flax]

vita skin?

[glad ice]

im also curious about our mysterious valk with sword

[amber finch]

so its vita with her skin

[sweet flax]

that has to be vita's skin

[mossy drift]

my bad she doesnt have a sword

[sweet flax]

its 100% vita's skin

[quick birch]

she ?

[storm lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/vita-vi-honkai-honkai-impact-honkai-impact-3-gif-14528955620121589520

[mossy drift]

she has a cape

[amber finch]

vitaaa

[mossy drift]

YSS THAT WOMAN

[amber finch]

hear me out

[quick birch]

wtf

[glad ice]

u ll need +9600 for that

[amber finch]

10 for badum and 10 for weap

[sweet flax]

id roll on pixels 400-16000 as wsell

[mossy drift]

oh me too im seeing the same thing

[muted shoal]

I hear b̶̨̿a̶̍͝ḓ̵̾ú̷̋m̶̛͆ is pretty good you should pull

[glad ice]

is this dark art im seeing

[amber finch]

the fug

[quick birch]

anyway i forgo why were we even searching for vita skin

[amber finch]

i kinda wanna pull on badum

[lyric anvil]

Not a random gacha music video I saw calling Hi3 a HSR Fanfiction

[sweet flax]

the other guy was playing where's waldo but our sword chara was infact not a sword chara

[mossy drift]

Because i thought she was a girl sitting on her sword while floating

[sweet flax]

no badum?

[quick birch]

🧱

[amber finch]

no dudu = ur mid

[sweet flax]

no badum?

[amber finch]

my pic was just too high quality for your pc

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

ayo this ches guy got no badum

[muted shoal]

even I have badum smh my head

[amber finch]

nuh uh

[lyric anvil]

[mossy drift]

whos the coolest character rn? I want to be impressed

[sweet flax]

you are asking a bunch of beginners, simps and meta slaves who's the coolest valk

are you sure what you are asking is worth it

[mossy drift]

well, yes? is there a bomb near me right now if i ask that

[lyric anvil]

[sweet flax]

definitely

[lyric anvil]

Yes

[amber finch]

dea anchora

[storm lantern]

coralie

[amber finch]

8.3 valk is a decent contender because she’s basically dea

[mossy drift]

well! yes, havent i told u i was obsessed with her?

[thick bolt]

incoming ghost leviathan

[sweet flax]

well anyways, the chat's entertaining, but let's go to the other channels to continue this if you'd like since this channel can get clogged up when beginners come asking

[amber finch]

horb has a pretty ult

[amber finch]

no clog when i can just !shh smh

[sweet flax]

still pisses me off how unscary it is

[frozen crypt]

Don't care get out

[amber finch]

see lyo is here

[frozen crypt]

[amber finch]

what the fork

[sweet flax]

bro really thought

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[mossy drift]

WAIT ACTUALLY GUYS IT WAS SONGQUE not vita

[sweet flax]

so let me understand this, the god-looking lightning unit with a cape and gray hair who has yellow/white color scheme

WAS SONGQUE IN HER ASTRAL FORM AND NOT VITA? (WHO IS ALSO BLONDE WITH NO SWORD)

[thick bolt]

[lyric anvil]

Unless they confused her staff as a blade

[autumn oxide]

?

[quick birch]

It's a trick staff after all

[mossy drift]

i infact did

[quick birch]

Maybe they got tricked

[glad ice]

she 's "riding something"

[lyric anvil]

Now that sounds wrong without context

[sweet flax]

ye but you arent ches, so its not as serious

[mossy drift]

omg hov.. brings so much memories

[autumn oxide]

@frozen crypt her biggest simp

lyo will ban me just because my hov is 0/4

[glad ice]

hov and her key is now included in newbie quest, if u re interested

[mossy drift]

well will that help me

[frozen crypt]

guide in bio

[mossy drift]

is there no like free characters i can get by just progressing

[autumn oxide]

shameless plug ey?

[quick birch]

She's nice for beginners will fall off at some point though

[mossy drift]

Well yes

[thick bolt]

All A ranks and old S ranks are farmable

HoV you get from login
Starter manual has a coupe of free A ranks

tldr isn't any issue getting units to last you pre and post lvl 80 till you pull for gacha teams

[autumn oxide]

but lyos nirv and she uses hov so she dint fall off!

[thick bolt]

!faq fhm

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[thick bolt]

starter teams

[quick birch]

A free char you will probably be using for a while is coralie, she + her sig weapon is obtainable through p2 Story which the starter manual forces you to do at some point anyway

No P1 Story spoilers at that point that will come later if you are interested in story

[thick bolt]

max pri 4/4 46x3
HoRb
mini Dudu
max sync dkeys
max dorm

[glad ice]

SSS hov too?

[quick birch]

Ofc

[thick bolt]

ye

[mossy drift]

hov has a key?

[autumn oxide]

syn2 dudu where

[thick bolt]

HoV doesn't
dkeys are just a global attack buff

[glad ice]

key of the void ...

[quick birch]

Key ≠ divine key

Some weapons are just named key x

[mossy drift]

oh..

[quick birch]

That .... Sounded so mean omg

It was supposed to be a filler

[glad ice]

just like hot used to have a koc....

[quick birch]

I'm sry

[autumn oxide]

star

[lyric anvil]

Sounds like a Hoyo goof with naming

[autumn oxide]

snazzy is rerun yes?

[mossy drift]

wait im sensing something through you..

[quick birch]

[lyric anvil]

[mossy drift]

YOU ARE?

yk its okay, me too girl

[quick birch]

[mossy drift]

no straight man uses omg so like…

[quick birch]

[glad ice]

why are u gay

[lyric anvil]

[mossy drift]

because we live in a world where henry cavill exists

[quick birch]

Anyway we are getting off topic lmao

[mossy drift]

well! yes.. i do need more help

did they change something to progress faster

[glad ice]

yes they did

[mossy drift]

like what?

[glad ice]

less exp required to level up

[mossy drift]

oh

[glad ice]

imma be careful with my answer though

[mossy drift]

is it a significant number or is it just a small amount

[glad ice]

about half iirc

[quick birch]

You reach 81+ in about a month

[mossy drift]

well thats easy

wait, to b sure again, i need 30k pulls for a whole character?

[glad ice]

90 pity valk and 60 pity for weapon, stigmata are craftable/easy drop

[glad ice]

and you should expect to reach pity

[quick birch]

42k for guarantee, 30k is already a good amount when you have that at the start of the patch though its about an 75% you get the valk. If the valk is really good you can still get her in the following weeks if not pity for a new valj

[mossy drift]

ermm..?!! craftable? since when were stigmatas craftable? like the limited ones??

[quick birch]

But beginner income is crazy you can afford 8.2 and 8.3

[storm lantern]

since 7.3

[quick birch]

Since 7.3 ( beginning of p2)

There's a lot that changed with p2 especially team building

[glad ice]

all honkai part 2 stigmata are craftable, but the material (prism) is another story

[quick birch]

Prisms can become a rare resource yeah but most of the time you pull more than a full set while pulling for the weapon

[mossy drift]

but r they hard to craft as a beginner?

[quick birch]

You essentially want stigmatas dupes since prisms are also required to upgrade them

[mossy drift]

whatt? stigmatas can go with the weapon as well?

[quick birch]

They are just on the same banner and the drop rate is a lot higher

[lyric anvil]

Stigmata is in the same banner as weapon

[quick birch]

So it's expected you get more than a full set while pulling for weapon

[glad ice]

ofc they do? since there is no offrate now, the banner only have 1 weapon and 3 stigs

[storm lantern]

no it just makes other stigs harder to upgrade

since the cost goes 1>2>4 prisms to upgrade

[mossy drift]

I dont get anything because im gonna have a blast now back to 3 years ago i was in agony pulling for stigmatas and weapon

[glad ice]

for a beginner i would say yes. 600 fuel is quite grindy

[quick birch]

In theory it may sound strange but when you actually experience it it's pretty simple really

[glad ice]

because the limited access to high mirage stage

[wild trail]

is there a particular order to the dkeys in the bp i should follow or does it not matter

[quick birch]

Though if you want us to elaborate further we can do that

[mossy drift]

ok diva i see you

[quick birch]

Level rewards include ether fuel and Coralie can do pretty good on fire mirage already

[mossy drift]

lowkey, i feel like i would enjoy the game again

[storm lantern]

might of an-utu for cheaper fire gene limit upgrade > twins of eden > abyss flower/fhd

[mossy drift]

whos at the 8.3 patch again? ||helia?||

[storm lantern]

or fhp i forgot which is which

[lyric anvil]

Your auto correct loves calling Coralie Caroline

[quick birch]

Yeah idk why

[mossy drift]

omg i hated caroline because she was boring sorry

[storm lantern]

#🔮cn-gameplay-discussion

[quick birch]

You can literally tell when I'm on my phone because of that

[storm lantern]

news in pins

[mossy drift]

okay, will read

[lyric anvil]

Might of utu then Twins of Eden
If getting Abyss Flower and Fhd, you'll need their foundry counterparts

[abstract sequoia]

This, but unlocking new mirage stages gives you the rewards and doesnt consume attempts

so there are ways to min-max ether fuel regardless

[quick birch]

Replacing stigmatas reso in level up rewards was also a pretty nice move

6 prisms and 1800 ether fuel through level up rewards

[wild trail]

what is fhd foundry counterpart?

[quick birch]

Pinions

[lyric anvil]

Fhp

Though Pledge of Sakura and Judah are in BP, they're not a priority from BP

[abstract sequoia]

using BP orbs for Judah and Sakura is a waste

can get them in other ways

[lyric anvil]

Judah in Exchange, Sakura in Foundry

[abstract sequoia]

yeah. and to farm weapon resonance you craft bounty weapons

to buy judah

[lyric anvil]

Of which I'm gonna slowly grind that for Judah since I crafted Sakura

[abstract sequoia]

judah is "just" +10 atk on top, but dks are free stats

even if the grind is long

[lyric anvil]

The attack is needed still
Sushi and Badum are barely above 1.3K

[abstract sequoia]

oh yea then you definitely need it. mine are at 1.4k average

with good affixes ofc

[wild trail]

dont call me out like this (1.26k attack sushi </3)

[abstract sequoia]

where does it lack for you?

[lyric anvil]

Badum has all SD affixes, not fully maxed but not bad still
Sushi almost there

[abstract sequoia]

the big 3 for atk are Dorm, DKs and Affixes

[abstract sequoia]

then affixes are not your problem

[lyric anvil]

Was about to mention my low asf dorm lvl

[quick birch]

Dkeys do add up over time

You are prob missing a lot

[abstract sequoia]

yeah then yknow what to work on, WT valks are fastest

for dorm xp

S0 and then S2

[lyric anvil]

I was gonna do some Asterite Valks for ER also

[glad ice]

wait, this mean u gonna cry when S+ errands show up?

[abstract sequoia]

Asterite Valks give 1 xp per rank up tho

ofc, still required to unlock I'd say, maybe S rank but thats about it for most

[lyric anvil]

Yeah, that's the highest I'll do with them

Except Coralie

[abstract sequoia]

yeah Coralie wants SSS

[glad ice]

dog girl simp detected

[lyric anvil]

[abstract sequoia]

dog girl is goated tho

[lyric anvil]

Beginner friendly P2 Valk

[abstract sequoia]

your best early game carry, not even exaggerating

[lyric anvil]

She still is carrying me

[abstract sequoia]

stomps all your gamemodes and even does your taxes

truly a dark lord

[lyric anvil]

My team last cycle against clock

[abstract sequoia]

yea understandable if you lack the 3rd valk, this works

[lyric anvil]

Her buffs aren't bad
Though she don't have the support tag for LoA

[abstract sequoia]

mhm, so no drain on QTE

[lyric anvil]

Yeah I turned it off

Might be a different question for MA though

[glad ice]

drain?

[abstract sequoia]

stellar drain, the thing that fills your astral ring

[lyric anvil]

^

[glad ice]

doesnt her special weapon skill give astral ring energy

[abstract sequoia]

yeah it does, but only once

in LoA, you can get drain multiple times with qte

but on a cooldown

[lyric anvil]

Think Coralie Qte also wastes a bit of time?

[abstract sequoia]

it does, still recommened to keep it on for beginner if they dont understand their teams yet

[glad ice]

only a bit. i like it on for the stack regen

[abstract sequoia]

more than a bit actually, because the full spin animation

[lyric anvil]

Had it on before cause Potato phone
Though if I'm doing FWS DPS, Coralie is already in the air so

[lyric anvil]

Literally see mine get sent flying

[abstract sequoia]

just need to regen an extra stack from no stack by hitting enemy mid-air

or you wont get the buffs

[lyric anvil]

Attack > WA

[glad ice]

too slow boss gonna beat yo ass be4 u can finish it

[abstract sequoia]

nono, just WA > WA

[lyric anvil]

Really?

[abstract sequoia]

yea

[lyric anvil]

Huh ok

Usually did BA then WA

[abstract sequoia]

I usually do WA then WA

[glad ice]

because with that u get 3 stacks team buff. pro usually get only 2

[abstract sequoia]

maybe its the same thing

[abstract sequoia]

at start yes, if you outburst early

[lyric anvil]

Jump > BA > WA refreshes the triple buff from Ult

[abstract sequoia]

otherwise its just wasted buffs

[abstract sequoia]

any stack used refreshes the buff

[lyric anvil]

Whatever works then

[glad ice]

this

[abstract sequoia]

and stomp using a stack is another buff

[lyric anvil]

Even if using Weapon Skill by bonking

[glad ice]

if u already have buff just use WA once and done

[abstract sequoia]

what I meant by needing stacks to trigger buff

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[abstract sequoia]

hitting ult is another way of triggering the same buff

but its slow

only faster if you can do it at the start with no timeloss

[lyric anvil]

Still remember my Coralie had to bonk the last enemy in the first lightning stage to finish it off.

[abstract sequoia]

sidestages are made for screwing around anyway, dont worry about those

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[abstract sequoia]

as long as you clear them

[lyric anvil]

Lightning was a bit difficult for me but completed the side stages cause I had SO early-

[abstract sequoia]

yeah its a bit rough without paralyze

[lyric anvil]

||Can't wait for 8.3||

[abstract sequoia]

or just use Boldstorm

which is not so bad with a full world star team

for that sidestage at least

[quick birch]

Qte inflicts paralyze anyway just use LoA

[abstract sequoia]

helia gives more

[lyric anvil]

That's paralyze weather

[abstract sequoia]

actually sad they never ran that, could've brought VBs back from the dead at least for that

[lyric anvil]

True

[abstract sequoia]

and Sena/SImp

[lyric anvil]

Having the same tags
Sleepi Teri could easily just be called QUA Sena but with paralyze

[static current]

what should i choose from blazing assembly option?

[thick bolt]

can you send an ss?

[thick bolt]

If none owned unlocking Kiaelf would be the best
She has elemental buffs and switch cd reduction

more use than the the options especially at 2*

[static current]

thanks

[lyric anvil]

2* kiaelf meh than SS DS?

[abstract sequoia]

Need 3* to be better yea

but for anything part 1 the alternative is Jingwei

[lyric anvil]

Alright

Was trying to decide whenever I get the box, either Bunny, Kiaelf, or the affixes

[abstract sequoia]

and you have no elf boxes from spending events?

[lyric anvil]

9

Which isn't much

[abstract sequoia]

[lyric anvil]

So likely the affixes

[abstract sequoia]

i wouldnt

[lyric anvil]

Oop ok

[abstract sequoia]

you dont get elfs for free anyday

[lyric anvil]

True

[abstract sequoia]

if you cant decide yet, keep the box for now

[lyric anvil]

[abstract sequoia]

maybe a use case will come for either PB or Kiaelf

both want 3*, but I'd still argue that PB 2* can be better than DS with 2 or more physical valks

[lyric anvil]

I was deciding from pass weather's
PB for certain Starless or Kiaelf for FWS

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[abstract sequoia]

reason is that she gives 1.5% Physical for each physical valk

and it outweights the tdm buffs of Dreamseeker on 2 phys valks

your only deficit is initial ARI

[lyric anvil]

I know, same with Kiaelf except she's elemental

[abstract sequoia]

oh same on Kiaelf?

[lyric anvil]

Doesn't she need 2 elemental or?

[abstract sequoia]

i have to look it up

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[abstract sequoia]

i just know in detail how PB works since I have her

[lyric anvil]

Ah

PB would work best with my HoRb TA team

[abstract sequoia]

Oh yea definitely

[lyric anvil]

Did throw Sushi in that team too

[abstract sequoia]

assuming you have enough use cases for that team

[lyric anvil]

MA most of the time

[abstract sequoia]

kinda troll tbh, she gives 0 buffs

[lyric anvil]

Awe

[abstract sequoia]

and crit will do nothing

[lyric anvil]

Yeah true-

[abstract sequoia]

you'd want JDS instead

[lyric anvil]

Fucking Carnival bad luck

[abstract sequoia]

i feel you

i hate this banner too, Thelema curse

[lyric anvil]

Or RS

[abstract sequoia]

RS is more a TA replacement

[lyric anvil]

Oh yeah-

[abstract sequoia]

you dont even use her surfboard in p1 rotations

[abstract sequoia]

and to be clear about my choice, I picked her because she cute

in every other case I'd recommend kiaelf instead and her 3* rankup

since shes a sidegrade for AOPs in some teams

PB only has the 3 physical part 2 valks released now

[lyric anvil]

Yeah-
PB if I chose her mainly would be seen in MA/Starless for HoRb

[abstract sequoia]

keep in mind that both her and Kiaelf have the switch CD reduction

[lyric anvil]

Alright

[abstract sequoia]

every last gen elf has it iirc

[lyric anvil]

So PB, Ely, and Kia

[abstract sequoia]

and marisa's aop calculator is also good to consider for part 2 elf comparison. The only thing he sadly got wrong was that he put the 1.5%+ per phys valk effect on 3* (its on 3* for part 1 team comps only)

[lyric anvil]

Ah

[abstract sequoia]

maybe I should tell him

[lyric anvil]

[round cedar]

i saw someone say that the powercreep got slightly more balanced with p2 units having more longevity… is this true because if so i might consider coming back

[inland gust]

is sushang worth getting over small dudu

[storm lantern]

yes, possible you don't want to roll for either though if you did the discounted 10 pull already depending on your roster/xtal count

[storm lantern]

i cant really say what amount of powercreep would be fine for you but generally after chars die as dps they have a decent amount of longevity as supports, you can also check the abyss schedule for this patch and see what the bis teams are

[round cedar]

Im someone who rotates between games every few months (low storage issues) so if i can come back without having missed 23 vital supports and having a bricked account im fine with it

[storm lantern]

you aren't going to be able to compete in rl+ abyss if you don't play for months at a time

[round cedar]

Im not very competitive

[storm lantern]

a3 is maybe doable but i'm not 100% on that

[round cedar]

i was able to maintain a3 for a while but then my account was just too old

that was right before p2

I came back for vita and got her hofi and the short one 12/12 and left again

i forgot her name

hammer girl

[inland gust]

i have abt 5k pulls saved, but im guaranteed for both weapon and character (super close to pity for both). for part 2 characters ive only pulled, sena,thelema,vita and songque (all have weapons)

and ig part 2 elysia

[agile mountain]

Is PS really good for beginners ?

[storm lantern]

ig pull sushang then

[agile mountain]

Cause I’ve heard that the next character is really good

[storm lantern]

that's one of the better brute force teams, i'd come back if you want to play but don't expect super high ranking

[storm lantern]

she's good for beginners because they can probably get both

[agile mountain]

I am one haha

[quick birch]

we cant predict yet how good the next char will be since we are only in v2 of the beta but if you are a total beginner then you can afford both

[agile mountain]

Can they work in one team ?

[inland gust]

can she perform well with those part 2 characters i have tho? cuz ik their super dependant on certain astral types

[storm lantern]

yes, vita and songque both have the tag that supports her

[agile mountain]

Isn’t the Chinese server like a month before us ?

[quick birch]

|| yes sushang is an extremly good support for the 8.3 valk right now just be aware that this is subject to change but i dont expect her to become worse at all ||

[quick birch]

3 weeks

and yeah CN is currently in v2 beta

global does not even know who the valk is offically

[agile mountain]

Oh ok

So when is the final version gonna be out ?

Or how may versions are there hahaha

[quick birch]

2 weeks until shes live in CN

[quick birch]

the final version is once the version is actually there hoyo sometimes does last minute changes

[abstract sequoia]

GLB beta is usually the point where spoiler tags can be dropped

[agile mountain]

But she is def gonna be a teammate of PS ?

[abstract sequoia]

yes

[quick birch]

|| yes||

|| ps can support her and she can support ps ||

[agile mountain]

Kk

What should a newbie like me focus on more ? Story or events

Which gives more ?

[quick birch]

story by far

but events still give resources etc. and this version we also get a free S rank elf selector which can be nice once you get one elf to 3*

[agile mountain]

Free S ?

Which event is that

[quick birch]

Free S rank elf

little helpers big rewards

[agile mountain]

Ah kk

[quick birch]

and for the missions in that one you need to do other events like snazzy card etc.

its also still possible to complete without the story quest if you want to avoid spoilers

[agile mountain]

Kk

[winter geode]

Which store can i get Mei class B fragments

[glad ice]

i have kiana elf and the box still let me choose her though description say elf i already own will not be displayed

is this a bug

i wont click open tho because i dont really wanna get the elf

[quick birch]

No the dupe will just turn into 105 frags

Wait the description says what

[glad ice]

in pink font

[quick birch]

Do you have a ss of it can't open the game rn

[glad ice]

idk maybe it will refuse when i click open

the line with the pink font though

[quick birch]

weird

[sweet flax]

bold of you to assume hoyo wouldnt reuse assets due to laziness

[quick birch]

It could also just be that LMAO

Anyway I will choose kia elf myself cuz I need her 3* so I can tell how it went once I have the box

[lilac reef]

Is kia elf 4*? If not, maybe thats why she's selectable

[glad ice]

my durandal is 4* and also selectable

[lilac reef]

bug then

[quick birch]

Fuck this imma finish the event rq, how long is the helia space ship event ?

[glad ice]

10 mins?

[quick birch]

Okay ez then

[lilac reef]

took me like an hour

[quick birch]

Well ill see can't sleep before I know what's up with the box

That shit gonna keep me awake

[lilac reef]

I couldve speedran it. Didnt realise it was so easy and choices didnt matter that much

[glad ice]

there is nearly 0 dialogue and u can speedrun it

yep just pay some attention to have enough offensive cards and its no problem

dont be like me and stuck with 5 support cards and waste a turn

still rng happen

[muted shoal]

It's just a fucked description, it means they won't display "already owned" on elfs you already own

[quick birch]

bruh

[glad ice]

wat the

[quick birch]

yeah okay makes sense

[lilac reef]

reading comprehenshion

[muted shoal]

They say the same stuff on gear boxes for pri/divine keys as if you tuned/pri the weap you don't own the base one anymore so it won't show the text

And I guess ELFs are treated differently as box items so they don't have a functional "owned" tag for it

[glad ice]

ok make sense. so now if i choose durandal i'm pretty much fucked with 100 useless frags

[muted shoal]

You can turn them into pure elf orbs

[glad ice]

hence the "choose carefully" part

[muted shoal]

ye

[glad ice]

yeah the least i can do. but pure elf shop doesnt have anything but frags (well the terminal is asterite)

[agile mountain]

Why is German a common used language in anime games actually?

[sweet flax]

wdym

[low kestrel]

HOW U ALL READY HAVE THAT

[sweet flax]

no life snazzy cards event

[solar drum]

why are you yelling

[low kestrel]

guys i miss the og chat, sairaan gone, kitch gone kenthy gone and awawa too

and chese men

where is everyone

[solar drum]

wouldn't sairaan be sleeping by now

[sweet flax]

they are still active you do realise its night time for eu/sea right now

[low kestrel]

i never see they here

[sweet flax]

sairaan was typing here not too long ago

[agile mountain]

Only almost 11

[sweet flax]

11 pm is not considered night time for us anymore?

[agile mountain]

Nahhh

It’s the begin of daytime

[storm lantern]

awawas last message was 2 mins ago

[sweet flax]

smh

[quick birch]

awawa just balding cuz of snazzy cards event

[solar drum]

i forgot half the honkai players are nolifers

[sweet flax]

id pay someone to do my snazzy cards event icl

[quick birch]

i think its fine i just wont bald

[sweet flax]

I would rather die than do it but I need that elf box

[quick birch]

too gacha gated

[quick birch]

i mean we have weekly quests

you could skip it

[left vale]

erm thats against ze tos ;-;

[sweet flax]

-_-

[low kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-miss-my-wife-invincible-omni-man-meme-yummers-gif-10942073667943236176

[abstract sequoia]

because the japanese always had a friendly relationship with germans, not only for ww2 reasons

so some are sort of fascinated by the language

[haughty elbow]

im balding because of hi3

[agile mountain]

I don’t think they had a good relationship haha

[agile mountain]

Especially during ww2 haha

[abstract sequoia]

really, it's not just ww2

[quick birch]

when new hair transplantation

[abstract sequoia]

something about german war prisoners in a japan village and them bringing in a lot of their culture into the local population there (prisoner was sort of a loose title there and they could work freely within the village)

[agile mountain]

Ohhh

[abstract sequoia]

must be the most popular tale for that topic

[agile mountain]

So they think German is sm kind of magical haha

Kk

[abstract sequoia]

as much as people love anime and japanese culture that's depicted there

[low kestrel]

ik honkai impact make some good events but bro i rlly need to play the story to win rewards? like, i don't want it 😭

[ancient needle]

There is a shit ton of time left on the event, and you can get these books from other sources

[jolly pulsar]

I heard story is extremely GOATed this patch
Amazing animations and stuff

(But I’m a story skipper so)

[haughty elbow]

of all stories to skip, this chapter is not that one

[jolly pulsar]

Yep!
But I lie to myself that I will watch from the very beginning of the story one of these days

[lilac reef]

Im having massive skill issue but how do I play her?

[solar drum]

i think there is a youtuber that gives tips on how to clear shallow sequence

one moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hHI8c1Bd3g

i think this might help

@lilac reef

[lilac reef]

Thank you, thats perfect. Im going through my ER finally and now I have to learn all these valks lol

[solar drum]

[fallen shale]

I'll make a note of this

[sacred mango]

which ELF is good? i got only the 2 beginner elf

[storm lantern]

kiana but you can wait to open it until you have enough fragments to 3*

assuming the box doesn't expire

[sacred mango]

kiana it is, thanks

[maiden garden]

When does sakura samsara or smth unlock

I completed chapter 8

[celest shard]

My box will go to 4* Bunny

I think

Not sure yet, especially because P1 physical weather seems to be super rare.

Any of the other elves worth grabbing if I have Kiana 4* already?

[odd plume]

lv50

[haughty elbow]

just get affix imo

[abstract sequoia]

Ely elf, but she needs 4* to be good

And Bunny, which only needs 3* in part 2 teams because 4* is only an upgrade to her self-dmg

[abstract sequoia]

When you reach Level 50

APHO is playable earlier

[slim blaze]

Gonna be so funny when SSS DS gets a good buff

[abstract sequoia]

I mean we know the buffs already or do you mean another buff?

And its a very situationial thing really (Typeless, SP regen being relevant)

[static current]

how do i get to level 89 i have max captain exp but no level up

[warped plinth]

lvl 88 is max captain lvl and valkyrie's lvl is max 80 (just in case)

[shadow gyro]

sleep for the current abyss? (nirvana)

[abstract sequoia]

yeah no quantum is sleep

[ancient needle]

Why did you Nirv into a QUA boss 😭

ig it doesn't matter that much without AOs anyway

[sweet flax]

would 3* kiaelf of ss ds be better (for this abyss)

[shadow gyro]

i barely did sht last cycle but promoted anyways

[sweet flax]

eu moment

[shadow gyro]

ig ill just do the side stages for the crystals, wasnt planing on retaining nirv anyways

[abstract sequoia]

that's what I will find out today

i got the box

[ancient needle]

Should be Kia

[sweet flax]

I really dont wanna

[ancient needle]

Actually nvm, idr for sure

[sweet flax]

eh we'll see ig

either way its not like I lose much

just because im an idiot I wanted to make sure, its unlock kiaelf from box then unlock fragments through spending box right? or does it make no difference

[gloomy acorn]

Need to double check but iirc dupe gives less than what's initially needed to unlock (150)

[sweet flax]

ic

[calm kernel]

doesnt matter which way you open the boxes

cause even if you have 900 fragments you still need to go to the elf menu and press the unlock button to spend fragments to unlock it

[terse iris]

best ELFs?

[sweet flax]

makes sense

[sweet flax]

nowadays only kiaelf or pb get use, but pb NEEDS 3* to even be considerable in rare cases
so stick to kiaelf who is much more versatile and can be better than ds in more cases in comparison

[terse iris]

aight, tysm

[ancient needle]

Kia needs 3* as well to be usable in P2 teams tho

Still worth going for to get to 3* ofc

[sweet flax]

did I misinfo then

oh nvm

[ancient needle]

2* Kia can still be useful in SS MA, for example

PB can't instantly ult at 2*

[sweet flax]

btw I dont need to level kiaelf's skills right?

only the astral ring

(unless I wanna use her with io/da/mmg in p1)

[ancient needle]

Yeah, the skills are only for inactive AR

[abstract sequoia]

Dupe gives 105 frags i believe

[sweet flax]

ye but as paul mentioned I have to manually unlock the elf anyways for it to matter

[abstract sequoia]

for me it does matter

[abstract sequoia]

because i dont have kiaelf yet

[sweet flax]

I just wanted to get the most shards towards 4*

so I have a 3* +1 mini star

[abstract sequoia]

yeah then you hit it either way

thankfully was able to buy out enough elf frags in the last 2 spendings for 3*

just need the level mats now

oh shit, the level mats...

[sweet flax]

thank god the astral skills only need asm and coins

[abstract sequoia]

i think skill unlock still needs those new tubes

but not really sure

[sweet flax]

yeye the p1 skills do

[abstract sequoia]

i see, keeping them unleveled for now though

abyss is prio

[mossy drift]

wait, i got a 50 percent discount of 10 pulls in sushangs banner so like.. how much crystal do i need then? the weapon banner stays the same tho

[abstract sequoia]

and ASM i should have enough

[sweet flax]

at least 4* kiaelf is only good for trio (in terms of astral skills)

[mossy drift]

actually nvm.. i still need like 30k crystals to fully get her equipment

[sweet flax]

The first milti pull of every debut banner has a discount

Makes it so you spend 1.4k less (40.6k total max pity)

But either way odds remain the same and you'd spend around 30-35k on averahe

[mossy drift]

how did it become 30k? that feels so much less

[sweet flax]

Well current max pity is 85 (on debut valks, 90 otherwise) on character banner and 60 on equipment banner going based on the average player's odds they get a valk and gear in around 110/150 pulls (or 30.8k crystals)

For the less lucky player it only goes up from that point to a max of 40.6k (on debut valks, 42k otherwise)

[ancient needle]

30k already is on the unlucky side

[sweet flax]

But that doesn't mean if you have 30k you should pull, we usually recommend having 16.8k crystals ready at all times (60 pulls) for equipment banners

[ancient needle]

But ofc you shouldn't be going by averages

[sweet flax]

Average's main point is to indicate expectations

[mossy drift]

oh wait so like 30k is not on soft pity?

[ancient needle]

It is

[mossy drift]

wait im sooo confused

[sweet flax]

Going beyond 560 crystals is already on the unlucky side

[ancient needle]

Refer to this: #👶beginner-help message

[mossy drift]

okay so like thank you so much for the help but do i still get senadina, songque, or sushang

or badum

so like i need 30k for a full equipment?

[ancient needle]

30k is for valk + weap

Stigs are craftable, don't focus on pulling them

[sweet flax]

Defo not sena she sucks (especially with no ranks, can't support and no bosses)
New ring already teased so songque is going to be less viable as a support

Ps or badum, roughly similar in value but whoever has more value in next ring can change that
Ps is preferred right now due to her shill being active atm (but its nearing the end)

[mossy drift]

i thought the stigmatas goes with the weapon banner as well?

[ancient needle]

Sushang
Badum could be considerable if you really wanted her, but you don't really have enough time

[ancient needle]

They do, but they're craftable as well

[mossy drift]

oh well i will get the stigmatas anyway as i pull, no?

[mossy drift]

sushang still the best bet?

[ancient needle]

Quite likely, yes, but you may not get the entire set, for example

[sweet flax]

the best bet is waiting for more info on who can support the next ring better

[mossy drift]

oh wait i actually have a box with her stigmatas in it, i got it from manual

[sweet flax]

the next best options is sushang due to shill, but shill is nearing it's end this patch

[ancient needle]

There's not enough time for Badum without rerolling

[mossy drift]

what are u guys trying to say

[sweet flax]

[ancient needle]

You can only pick 1 stig from it

And it's not from the Manual, it's from the login event

[mossy drift]

well yes so like

[amber finch]

you may get the weap before getting the full stig set

[mossy drift]

ohhh

but like if i ever get them early, isnt crafting their stigmatas hard because im literally a beginner?

[sweet flax]

its cheap as fuck, the only issue is source prisms but over time you accumulate them much more easier

since beginners get a load of ethers in their manual

[amber finch]

they’re really cheap, 2 prisms and 600 ether fuels

[mossy drift]

cheap as fuck?? wow wtf

[amber finch]

you’re prob looking at g1-4 stig crafting recipes

[amber finch]

these are the expensive ones

[mossy drift]

tho only my issue is, i dont have someone to pair her up with. If thats a problem

[sweet flax]

very cheap

[amber finch]

the poverty is real

[mossy drift]

well quiet i thought they were gonna be expensive because theyre limited

[sweet flax]

right now do vbm and ta (from asterite, can use rc until you unlock ta)

[sweet flax]

crafting g4s

[mossy drift]

vbm and ta? yall know u guys cant use shortened words

[amber finch]

glossary in pins

[abstract sequoia]

theyre acronyms for battlesuits

[sweet flax]

there's a glossary in pins im not gonna type the full valk's name to every beginner I meet

vbm: valkyrie blastmetal (coralie) obtainable for free and her weapon as the first 2 rewards in p2 story
ta: terminal aide 0017
rc: reverist calico (free from beginner manual)

[abstract sequoia]

because if you just say "Bronya", we have no idea what battlesuit you mean

[mossy drift]

Well!

[sweet flax]

because imagine I tell you go build kiana mei and bronya in a single team, what would you think I meant

[mossy drift]

but like i feel like i can use her solo FIRSTLY because i think she would easily dish out enemies

[sweet flax]

no reason to go solo

[mossy drift]

because im a beginner

[sweet flax]

you have access to a good beginner team, use it

[mossy drift]

what?!?!?!? because ill eventually build her a team

well i dont even know rotations

[amber finch]

just put her in a team now

[sweet flax]

you do realise "eventually" she'll be the support of another team by the time you get the proper supports for her

and vbm is a very good beginner support due to being a roo ring

[mossy drift]

oh im a bit sad to hear that

[sweet flax]

she will still have bosses, she will just be less shilled

[amber finch]

that eventually is like 1-2 years

[mossy drift]

oh

[amber finch]

or more because longer patches now

[sweet flax]

ye (can be even more as well)

also, valks can always have their usability extended via dkeys

[abstract sequoia]

Bleed is a niche that always comes back either way

[olive ivy]

i get that the best elf is supposed to be kiana, but does she replace dreamseeker for part 2 characters or is just for the part 1 that are still used?

[mossy drift]

well even if i did make a team for her, how do i even do her rotations?
what team am i gonna get again?

[sweet flax]

replaces ds in some cases at 3*
at 2* she doesnt

[abstract sequoia]

Not replace, she's a sidegrade for Fire and Lightning

[sweet flax]

but grabbing 2* is good since it's progress towards 3*

[mossy drift]

bump

[amber finch]

there are tutorials ingame and scroll up

if you meant a more fully pledged team then vita badum/dudu/song it depends

[mossy drift]

i dont get any of the tutorials tho

[abstract sequoia]

which parts

we can go over anything

[amber finch]

you get no valk tutorials at all or you havent checked?

[sweet flax]

? they literally tell you as if you are a baby what each button does and how her kit works

[abstract sequoia]

long texts

brain fried from too many new terms

i get it

[mossy drift]

well yes i have done sushangs trial it was easy but like idk for other characters

[amber finch]

they still force you to press the buttons

[mossy drift]

yea, this one

[abstract sequoia]

not for the rotations

[sweet flax]

they make you do rc's full combo in her tutorial instead of wa > hold atk

[amber finch]

im not talking abt the rotations, just the basic rot is enough because that’s what he’s asking for

and they force you to do the basic rot

[mossy drift]

well i will just update you guys again once i get her and will probably have some other characters like calido that cat girl wtv

[abstract sequoia]

its really better you play and learn one valk at a time, focus on 3 for now

sushang, coralie and someone else as support

[mossy drift]

i will come back here again soon

in like 3 days or so i probably got her by now

where can i send my invite code?

[sweet flax]

#invite-links-here

[wintry wharf]

why i have that red dot

even if completed everything

[slim blaze]

To annoy

[mossy drift]

is griseo a support?

seele swallowtail or griseo as dps?

[frozen crypt]

Griseo support yes especially small griseo

@mossy drift

[mossy drift]

theres a grown up version of griseo now? also, what do we gets from the growth regimen phases? i wanna see all what we get

[frozen crypt]

Ya we got a big griseo

#👶beginner-help message

[mossy drift]

whats inside the egg?

also, is calico a dps?

[ancient needle]

She's primarily a support, but she can be a solid DPS in the earlygame

[mossy drift]

i see, these are only my characters (soon to get calico) but idk what the golden egg gives. Who can i build as dps for earlygame?

[frozen crypt]

!faq egg

[small willow]

S-Rank Valkyrie Option

Hello, Captain!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to see the in-depth explanation of what to choose!

Ai-chan recommends that you keep this egg until you have two from the following: Shadow Knight, Sixth Serenade and Goushinnso Memento. When you own two, unlock the one you are still missing.

[frozen crypt]

!faq fhm

[ancient needle]

Seele for now

[small willow]

Beginner Gear and Teams

I got this, Captain!

Click here for beginner teams examples by Hsien!
-# You don't need to build all of these!

[Click here](#👶beginner-help message) to view budget stigmata setups!

See the pins of beginner help for more guides!

[mossy drift]

@ancient needle ohhh are these any good to replace my seele?

[ancient needle]

No, by the time you get to use the egg you'll be able to get significantly better chars

[mossy drift]

oh okay

thank you

[autumn oxide]

@ancient needle is ur hfs s3

[mossy drift]

is calico not a better dps? @ancient needle

[ancient needle]

I don't have her at all

[autumn oxide]

oop

[ancient needle]

She is, that's an example of a significantly better valk

You still do need multiple teams for Memorial Arena

[mossy drift]

ohhh then i will use her as my dps then thank you

[ancient needle]

But you'll get HoV tomorrow, she's generally better than SP

[mossy drift]

can i get their weapon?

[mossy drift]

well yes but is calico still better

[ancient needle]

Yes, but refer to this

You can't use the same valk on 2 teams there

[mossy drift]

okay so i make a team for both cali and hov?

[mossy drift]

can i get calicos weapon?

[ancient needle]

Well, you don't have much rn, but yeah

[ancient needle]

You're able to get it after doing 50 pulls on banners from a box, but I wouldn't rush to do that just yet
Are you planning to buy the Level Rush btw?

[mossy drift]

i am not

i dont think its worth it since hoe is not great anymore

i mean not im not that sure, but no i wont buy it

[ancient needle]

The value of the bundle is mostly in crystals
But yeah, that's 100% fair

[ancient needle]

I think getting her sig weap from the box is worth then

[mossy drift]

oh okay, i will probably have sushang by that time now

[ancient needle]

I wouldn't upgrade it beyond lvl 35 btw, at least for now

[mossy drift]

upgrade what?

[ancient needle]

RC's sig weap

[mossy drift]

okay thank u

[mossy drift]

how do u have this kind of ui in events?

[thick bolt]

P2 open world event tab ui

Lists EX chapters and side events

[wintry wharf]

the ship on the moon

[mossy drift]

should i pull in the dorm supply?

[shadow gyro]

only using its tickets

[quick birch]

Spending events also have spending goals for dorm pulls so keeping 20 is recommended

[mossy drift]

is sushang really really my best bet? is songque not a competition?

[thick bolt]

Songque as a dps was always a bit gimped, her best use case is a loa support which is sushang ring

And given that it's currently the shill period of loa and also that this is the 2nd phys valk after song, I can't remember the last time she was used as a dps.

Not to mention that the thing to make songque dps good in the first place is owning other WoD supports and particularly owning serapeum astral Op, otherwise her crit rate and consequently crit damage tanks.

So as it is now, making songque dps functional is comparatively way more challenging than putting sushang to use.

Also || songque can't support the next valks ring type anyway, so future is a bust||

[mossy drift]

why is it always the ones who have the coolest animations ughh

Oh i got sushang on my first 10 pull.. 😭

[quick birch]

Now time for her weapon

[abstract sequoia]

70 pulls max, still under valk hard pity

[mossy drift]

well yes, i need 40 more

[abstract sequoia]

easily doable

[mossy drift]

is there a soft pity

[quick birch]

No official one, there is a statistical one at 76 for valk banners nothing to rely on though

Weapon has none

[mossy drift]

well atleast i can easily dish out the early chapters

[abstract sequoia]

pretty sure she will be useful for you in her niche much later on

which is bleed damage

been a while since a valk had that

[mossy drift]

is she like one of the best dps or like

[slim blaze]

I still cant decide whether to roll ps or not sigh

[abstract sequoia]

everyone is best on their release, what I meant is that she has a special damage type that appears as a requirement in the abyss gamemode every now and then. before this patch, there was no Astral Ring valkyrie with bleed before PS, the last bleed valk overall came out more than a year ago

[mossy drift]

yes but the question, oh wait its answered

[quick birch]

||Also she looks like a very good support for the new AR which will probably be the majority of the releases the next few patches ||

[mossy drift]

hearing support makes me sob

[quick birch]

She's both DPS and support

[mossy drift]

well at least i have more funds for the upcoming character

[quick birch]

Every p2 valk is that

[mossy drift]

oh

is there like no “CRACKED DPS!!!!” here?

[quick birch]

No everything is boss dependent

[abstract sequoia]

sometimes but nothing that works everywhere

[quick birch]

One might be crazy on one boss and useless on another one

There are good bruteforce teams but that shouldn't be of your concern

Best to focus on the PS and the 8.3 valk

[abstract sequoia]

the goal is to make a diverse enough roster to tackle common weathers

[haughty elbow]

good balance game

[abstract sequoia]

filling out less popular niches like quantum and bleed is also a fine strategy IMO

you will do well where most skipped

[quick birch]

Especially bleed was discussed a lot before PS release because bleed bosses can be quite demanding but PS basically took 90% of the bleed bosses

So that's not really a niche that you should be concerned about

[abstract sequoia]

the buffs for bleed are also very brutal

in abyss weathers

(is this what Lunar Vow pullers felt, one burden less?)

[worldly crystal]

This might be a stupid question but I can't seem to find any guides talking about what weapon u should use on sushang peregrine so does anyone know?

I don't have her signature btw

[quick birch]

Her signature

Signature weapons are basically non negotiable here

Otherwise use ur highest atk fist

[worldly crystal]

Uhhh

Which one? I can craft one easily if i have to

[quick birch]

But it's still a lot worse

[worldly crystal]

Im not exactly a beginner

[abstract sequoia]

and you know both valk and weapon are necessary?

[quick birch]

I would suggest not to pull a valk without getting her weapon in the future but otherwise just look for the gloves with the highest atk stat

Still it's ~-30% dmg

[worldly crystal]

But yeah im not pulling for her weapon i got her quincidentally on around 11 pity but im actually saving for helia

[abstract sequoia]

for copium fists I guess there's Domain of Sentience, Brick, Pandoras Box and Kissy Pillows

but they will all be meh

[worldly crystal]

Ik it was on accident i dwear😞

[abstract sequoia]

if youre aware of that, go ahead with your plan

[worldly crystal]

Oki

[quick birch]

Well that's a lucky pull then nice nice, also spoiler CN info 8.3 valk isn't revealed yet

She will still be nice as a support I guess

[abstract sequoia]

not a loss either way, just be aware that the weapon also has buffs that will be missing ||on Helia and any new ring valk she is compatible with||

[quick birch]

|| especially for helia ||

[worldly crystal]

Oki

I will definitely try to get her weapon if i can

But for now ill save

[abstract sequoia]

i mean how much you got?

[worldly crystal]

Uhh actually not alot😭

[ashen hearth]

Hi guys im having issues with the game itself i downloaded the whole game on steam but its telling me i need to download more is this normal??

[worldly crystal]

Wait lemme look

[quick birch]

Yes but I suggest you to play it over the normal launcher since playing it over steam locks you out of things that require a hoyoverse account

Its not a lot but you also can't play on your phone for example

[abstract sequoia]

web events are also a notable example that require a full hoyoverse account

[worldly crystal]

I have 1110 crystals

[ashen hearth]

I sadly already downloaded the game on steam and im genuinely not really willing to download it again lol, im fine with not being able to play on multiple devices i use my pc all the time anyway

[abstract sequoia]

yeah no, save

you did the right thing not pulling weapon

[quick birch]

Atp|| helia|| might also be in danger

Unless you got some pity I don't know of

[worldly crystal]

Oki thanks:)

[worldly crystal]

Will have to get really lucky to get her😞

[shadow gyro]

did u not download the update or smth? that looks normal but u can check with #🔌technical-help

[ashen hearth]

oh i didnt see that channel, thanks

[quick birch]

Depends on how much once time crystals sources you have but you should probably be able to get her within that 6 weeks

[abstract sequoia]

i would rethink it either way, from what we know you cannot transfer your account at any point and Mango actually is a Steam player so he knows what he's talking about

[quick birch]

Yeah only downsides lmao

I guess I can look at my play time but other than that

[worldly crystal]

I think so too i wouldn't risk downloading it on steam

[ashen hearth]

Is there a way to link the steam downloaded game to the launcher?

[abstract sequoia]

you can move the game files

[ashen hearth]

oh then in that case i'll use the launcher then

[abstract sequoia]

just put them in a separate folder and point the launcher to that

make sure you select Locate Game

maybe some files will be redownloaded, but afaik the game files are the same as normal GLB

so any that match wont be redownloaded

[formal sand]

I've gotten everything from the beginner book except the character, so close to finishing it

Also should I do part 2 now or try to finish part 1 of the story?

[abstract sequoia]

up to you really, early Part 2 builds up its own story up until the end of Chapter 3 where Part 1 and 1.5 context matters more

[formal sand]

Good to know, do I need to know any of the story for apho part one?

[abstract sequoia]

not a lot, its a flash forward years into the future, even part 2 plays before it

[glad ice]

i never paid attention to lore in a game tbh

[abstract sequoia]

why not

[glad ice]

just me

[abstract sequoia]

im the exact opposite

maybe a bit too obsessed sometimes

[glad ice]

guess u re not in the "skip" team

[abstract sequoia]

yeah never

unless its a event nobody cares about with no relevant or exciting text. Hi3 didnt achieve that for me yet, so far only one HSR event did

[charred basin]

which free elf from event is the best for general use?

[quick birch]

Kia elf since she covers lightning and fire but she needs 3* to be better than SS DS in some cases

[sweet flax]

should I be using lantern as a support for the hitcount?

[dry star]

Hi, of these two suits, which one would be better?

[sweet flax]

can pick hos since she is available in er and has a stress test

[quick birch]

Smh nyx also has both

Idk who costs more AL but I assume both are the same price

If not choose the one who is more expensive in WT

[sweet flax]

nyx has a stress test?

(then again hos is also an option for some ma strats)

ill dbl check prices in wt rq

[quick birch]

[abstract sequoia]

what do I prioritize for Kiaelf part 1 skills? I have only Astral Ring maxed out now but I lack quite a bit of resources

my intuition says the blue circled skills

[glad ice]

stress test is in "character trials"

u can skip 3rd line they are elf dmg. 4th line 2nd skill is quite important to skip

kiana elf 2* skills

whited skill is described in right side text

[abstract sequoia]

i mean i'm aware of that much

astralops have these too

[abstract sequoia]

what about shorter ultimate cd?

[glad ice]

its in that 3rd line but its 3*

[abstract sequoia]

yea i have 3*

[glad ice]

by the time he can 3* im pretty sure he had enough material

just high skill mats and elf mats, available in asterite shop

[abstract sequoia]

my issue is actually coins

[glad ice]

u can salvage aichan head for coins

[abstract sequoia]

idk if planeroids are worth 1k

would rather salvage more weps over time

maybe i can give something up

[glad ice]

or buy coin with asterite

[abstract sequoia]

dangerous suggestion

[glad ice]

thats an option

[abstract sequoia]

i lack asterite constantly

and need it for other things

[glad ice]

u can buy asterite in dorm shop

[abstract sequoia]

yeah i know

i know all of the places to buy stuff already, i'm just saying I lack gold right now

which is why i wanted to know the most important kiaelf skills

[glad ice]

or u can skip the inflamable/conductive 4th line

its related to 1st line 4th skill elf sp regen and 4th line 3rd skill + 10% ele dmg

[abstract sequoia]

ohh, so it does nothing if I don't have those skills unlocked

[glad ice]

btw i dont think cd is that important

[abstract sequoia]

how so?

do I lack SP anyway

[glad ice]

most p1 situations atm are 1shot

[quick birch]

i did find the cd reduction usefull in HoO dps teams for excecuting the enemie with eden ult or switch to eden for ult in general

it just depends on the team how usefull it is

[glad ice]

but yes its either 3rd line or 4th line skill

or both if u too lack coins

1st line is initial SP and 2nd line is a must

problem about mat is just solved by waiting a few days anyway

[abstract sequoia]

yeah i just don't know if I need her in MA this week

[glad ice]

if u use TA team for 31946 hepha u wont

[abstract sequoia]

i lack gear on most part 1

the only ones that are usable are trio and HoO without signature stigs

instead i have Benares TM + Cez B

oh and SI has her weapon, but only Cez B

HoS has both her weapons, none of her stigs

[glad ice]

u can 31946 hepha with hoo. 2* kiana ok

[abstract sequoia]

probably yea, i don't need hofi or trio anywhere else

this 2 SD boss week sucks tho

[glad ice]

or use thelema/hohe

[abstract sequoia]

will need HoHe probably for cope

[glad ice]

weird. my top MA here use sushang for guaymas

[abstract sequoia]

same here

[glad ice]

u no sushang?

[abstract sequoia]

top is PS/LP/TFM

[abstract sequoia]

nah i have her, but i can't run 2 full LoA teams

i mean i can, but not optimal

[glad ice]

huh u akshually have 2 loa team wym

[abstract sequoia]

not for topscore

hohe is copium on both

and jds i kinda need on both too