🎮honkai-chat

[left pewter]

when i tested it on beta it was the same. and now i guess i have all the effects too judging by the screen

[ivory gazelle]

how does that shows that u have the effects

[rich yacht]

ah i have 1.7k trophies

rip

[ivory gazelle]

ba, ba ult ba is what i did
but not sure if there's faster

[crisp briar]

[tropic stump]

Stop Bully Ely!

[left pewter]

imagine not having breach (when 18% is already the lowest possible value because 18% is 1st lvl of the skill) but still retaining nirvana

[topaz warren]

Is ult>ba not enough? Coulda sworn that was enough for me

[tropic stump]

[obtuse glen]

Where 888 then

[edgy oyster]

YUNA FORGOT WHERE IS MY POLYMARKET

[copper tundra]

Her breach converts to Lightning DMG with her DKey I believe

[ivory gazelle]

ult ba is enough but ba ult ba felt faster, cancelling part of first ba with ult

[ivory gazelle]

but retaining nirv means nothing

[rich yacht]

i was distracted..

[crisp briar]

T50 is where the juices are at

[copper tundra]

Unless I'm wrong

[edgy oyster]

Wottle how do i play luna with DK?

[topaz warren]

Think i did that before on some hle weathers, cant exactly rmb which one tho

[crisp briar]

i mean Nirv was never a matter of having breach or not

[left pewter]

no. only breaker state

[copper tundra]

I've seen many in NA Myriad use just FWS and PS

[crisp briar]

breach state is what gives you breach

not the skill itself

[ivory gazelle]

i dont see why not just go test it out and then spend 9k coins and see if anything did change tho

[left pewter]

no it gives breach to teammates (in luna's case converted to lightning dmg)

and it's breach (not breaker state) that gives breach to luna

[crisp briar]

why we bargaining over 9k coins anyway

[copper tundra]

[proper plank]

Wtf is breaker state

[crisp briar]

breach state translation

[copper tundra]

That text appears on PS

That

[proper plank]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-break-dance-spin-yakuza0-rip-bozo-gif-22174432

[copper tundra]

[edgy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-rad-yakuza0-yakuza0revelation-revelation-yakuza0-gif-26962030

[proper plank]

https://tenor.com/view/majima-goro-majima-holy-shit-majima-goro-mad-dog-of-shimano-gif-17991580

tradey knows ball

[edgy oyster]

Yakuza 0 best yakuza

[copper tundra]

[unique scarab]

@ivory gazelle how are you SP farming in transition mine is wasting so much time

[indigo tangle]

“You have to fight over who got done the dirtiest!”

These 3:

[unique scarab]

Why is HoHE even there

[copper tundra]

Her DKey probably

[edgy oyster]

And why fov?

[indigo tangle]

Worst stellar key upgrade out of all of them

[copper tundra]

Yeah FoV is a weird choice

[indigo tangle]

Idk she came out right before the shiny new astral ring stuff + I couldn’t think of anyone else

[copper tundra]

[edgy oyster]

[unique scarab]

Shoulda put Flamescion there

[indigo tangle]

Also FoV will probably never be brought into P2 with a stellar key since her stamps are in ER so there’s that

[unique scarab]

Then I would have agreed

[obsidian hare]

fov got shilled so many times tho

[copper tundra]

^

And she did again in 8.4

[indigo tangle]

The way nobody disputed lantern being in there

But the other two were questioned

[obsidian hare]

lantern falls through the floor every tuesday, there was no debate

[copper tundra]

It's lantern

Should have put ScI there

[indigo tangle]

SIMP isn’t that deep in the drain is she …

[obsidian hare]

almost all of Simp's niches are gone

[sly swift]

She dominates the qua weather

Entirely

[unique scarab]

Still best quantum battlesuit but instead they just Run fire weather

And she doesn’t win

[sly swift]

Unless it's fire weather, any qua boss is for SImp.

[unique scarab]

Fire weather quantum runs way more often

[copper tundra]

She's like 3rd to second best on that
Probably third after Badum with Sparkle support

[obsidian hare]

yeah but that's all she does

[sly swift]

A bit more often you mean

[obsidian hare]

her support capabilities are in the toilet

[copper tundra]

She lost Luna

[indigo tangle]

even more painful for SIMP because she just lost her Luna synergy

[sly swift]

SImp support gone is good for me.

[unique scarab]

Yeah she’s third best on the only weather she’s good for it’s tragic

[indigo tangle]

which was one of the only things she had

[edgy oyster]

Hofs dlc when? I need to flex my time runner

[sly swift]

I couldn't 700+ the tribunal or top 50.

[unique scarab]

We can only pray

[ivory gazelle]

after kill, ps wep wep into evade,
wait for lv qte cd,
basic
lv qte
ult wep hold wa
ps do couple of basics/eva, waiting for lv qte cd basically
then wep (usually this happens when the titans spawn diagonally like top right spawns as \

then lv qte in,
ps should have enough sp for ult now

while u do the basics on ps, u can kill the titans

[indigo tangle]

I would say shes too old but hey anything can happen

it's almost been 40 updates since HoF came out omg

[copper tundra]

For some reason mine are running aimlessly all over the place sometimes

[unique scarab]

Why’s Luna holding wa there

[ivory gazelle]

ult wa hold wa ends the frenzy and gives extra dmg

on next cycle

[unique scarab]

Ic

[copper tundra]

[indigo tangle]

Aponia is 30 updates old now

any chance for a stellar key...

[unique scarab]

Prolly not

[copper tundra]

[proper plank]

replace hoh and fov with danzai and villv

[indigo tangle]

I was only considering... non jurrasic valkyries

[proper plank]

these newgens

:p

[copper tundra]

[indigo tangle]

hoh counts as not jurrasic because she has a stellar key

[proper plank]

if hoh is jurassic I'm seriously reconsidering my life

[ivory gazelle]

then atp i ring into badum qte wa into ps ult then into lv qte again
lv smack the boss then badum ult
lv smack and then ult
then ult out of SO to kill
then ps ba ult ba finishes it
u need sp max lines for 3 facet if u are doing this

if d was a little bit lower or if my affixes weren't dogwater then i don't need to ult yea.

[indigo tangle]

hoh came out 27 updates ago

[copper tundra]

[indigo tangle]

so... definitely not recent

[proper plank]

she released last week

[indigo tangle]

ur so right

[proper plank]

[edgy oyster]

Mobius just came out right?

[proper plank]

yes!

[edgy oyster]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430057371641970708/1163911654287880253/900062798850195526.gif

[copper tundra]

White comet new?

[indigo tangle]

remember how restrictive teambuilding was back then...

[unique scarab]

Wew. Think I’m skill issuing then because I can’t fit half those into transition

[indigo tangle]

nowadays you can throw any valks together and still retain RL

back then it was all or nothing

[proper plank]

was it restrictive? anyone could be a support or dps if they had gpn equipped

[copper tundra]

[proper plank]

teams are a lot more reliant on gacha now

[oak schooner]

grandma

[proper plank]

and its much harder to get multiple teams

[indigo tangle]

did they ever patch that white comet method where she deletes that one boss

[copper tundra]

[proper plank]

wha

[copper tundra]

Huh

[proper plank]

only thing I can think of is alberich where its not actually a 'delete' its just a slow af meme build

and works on any pistol valk

[indigo tangle]

I mean theoretically you could pull 3 valkyries and have 3 astral ring teams

[proper plank]

thats the problem tho

3 astral ring valkyries

patches are so unbelievably long now that it takes forever

it's better, but it's slower

[unique scarab]

Unless u backpull

But then u have to skip

[indigo tangle]

long patches are more bearable when Hi3 isnt ur main game

but thats not the case for everyone

[unique scarab]

Well yeah bad things are more bearable if you don’t do them much

[proper plank]

hi3 is so low maintenance now compared to back then that it doesnt really matter

[indigo tangle]

at least xentinel is really cool...

[proper plank]

even if its ur main game u run out of content in 20min on a good day unless u mald

[indigo tangle]

shes one of the more impressive P2 valks in terms of production quality

[proper plank]

yeah she is pretty epic, I find the bio execute stupid tho

like from full hp really

[copper tundra]

She can execute MA Rice cakes fists

[proper plank]

smth is wrong when a valk can fully clear nirv mobbing with no gear and no team

[indigo tangle]

The rice cake fists are some of the most shameless shilling ive ever seen

[proper plank]

I think they should have at least made it hp threshold

[edgy oyster]

Too much wuxia I'm getting allergic, but I agree

[copper tundra]

Idek how those are mobs

[indigo tangle]

Like I get that some bosses are made to favor certain characters but omg rice cake is egregious

[proper plank]

it's bullshit

I like xqc mei but that mechanic is really bullshit

bio will continue to be the laughing stock of the game

[indigo tangle]

I see ppl say shes CNY valk so theyre gonna shill her more but

they didnt really shill Badum on that same level

[unique scarab]

Badum has been bis support for every abyss for a year

P much

[proper plank]

yeah badum didn't get much shill I only dropped out of nirv on her patch for skipping her

for support she is used a lot tho

but not needed to nirv retain, maybe on SEA

and CN

but def not global

[indigo tangle]

Yeah but I mean super egregious boss mechanics

[proper plank]

idk stardust is very cancer without a sd valk

[copper tundra]

HLE and Paros

[edgy oyster]

Bigseo time

[indigo tangle]

Honestly if you dont have even one SD valk by now i dont think you can blame the game for that one

[proper plank]

badum sd fragment gather is really good as well

[indigo tangle]

we can blame them for rice cake though

[proper plank]

I have HLE

she's alright but can't delete sd hp like badum and can't brainlessly gather fragments

[indigo tangle]

I meant "you" as a general term for the community lel not necessarily you specifically

[proper plank]

also consider new players

[vestal mesa]

u have a free SD valk...

[copper tundra]

[unique scarab]

It took 3 patches for me to get one. Had to suffer through PS patch paws patch FDD patch before I got Badum and HLE

[obsidian hare]

everyone has a pocket ce

(don't)

[oak schooner]

good skip

[indigo tangle]

JD is free this patch so new players that REALLY need a way to deal with SD do have an option

or... JD is "free"

[unique scarab]

Jds (there is no team for her)

[indigo tangle]

if you consider the spending event free

[oak schooner]

let us never consider backpulling fws until tmr

[unique scarab]

By that logic might as well say Badum

[vestal mesa]

spending shop is Songque AoP

[ivory gazelle]

practice ig
point is everything up til lv qte needs to be done relatively fast so lv qte does hit the titans for sp

then u just have a small window of doing nothing and
then time ult on the boss as he comes down yea and rest is simple

[indigo tangle]

jds and songque are both in there

[edgy oyster]

It's Wednesday my dude

[indigo tangle]

I have fws but not her weapon so... i need to "backpull" anyways

[vestal mesa]

oh ok i didnt scroll down to the bottom

[indigo tangle]

[oak schooner]

also no its 1am on thurs for me

TeriPoint~1

[sly swift]

[unique scarab]

Fair. Well I don’t want to say I got nothing out of it either

Some combination of this got me +4

To 727

I think biggest issue is I’m losing about 10 points in each half from you

[vestal mesa]

i need to do a combo atk with ps to get 90sp, in transition

[hushed whale]

[copper tundra]

[unique scarab]

Huh 733

Maybe I will retain

Idk wth I did differently but that worked

[copper tundra]

[proper plank]

Trueeee

Shit valk

[oak schooner]

Copium

[indigo tangle]

weird thought but this is what i think what ring the P1 S ranks would fit into (didnt include some cuz their kits are too weird and clunky to even have one IMO)

[proper plank]

HoV would need some herrscher charge restoration but I can see it esp if her ult got timestop

[indigo tangle]

I need mobius to get a stellar key like yesterday she basically plays like a GoI valkyrie already

[proper plank]

AE GoI would be really funny she CAN spam her ult its just expensive

Ooh Mobius dkey would be amazing actually

[indigo tangle]

She would probably replace vita but vita is getting kinda ancient already

[proper plank]

Yeaa

[hearty kelp]

where do i post gacha ws

[indigo tangle]

#📿gacha-salt🧂

[proper plank]

Aponia could be LoA

[indigo tangle]

I was tempted to put her in i dont know tier tbh

[proper plank]

They'd probably have to hella speed up her off field stuff

[indigo tangle]

RoO is kind of a wild card AR so there's not really a clear cut formula for what their valkyries should do

the only thing they have in common is that theyre on field for their entire SO without swapping

[proper plank]

HoO would also be great for LoA imo, may need cd adjustments though

[indigo tangle]

I thought HoO and HoTr should be in rite just cuz of the trio team

[proper plank]

Ah I guess

HoO's kit with her wa and ult would just be super funny to spam timestop with even more tho

[indigo tangle]

Yah but if she was LoA then HoFin wouldnt be able to support her

and kiamei is a requirement in this game

[proper plank]

I'll take that

Waxing was built for HoO support so it would sorta suck lmao

HoO doesn't really strike me as a ws valk either

[indigo tangle]

especially considering that HoFin isnt a required support for RoO anymore

[indigo tangle]

for WS i just imagined their auto attacks triggering resonance

and if it looked like it made sense i just slapped them on there

[proper plank]

Yeah basically just anyone who spams atk

[hearty kelp]

just need her weapon 😋

[indigo tangle]

honestly im way too much of a stellar key enthusiast

ive skipped several new valkyries to pull for stellar keys

[proper plank]

I like dkeys cuz my HoV gets more atk

[indigo tangle]

[proper plank]

Just need one more for 1710

[steel anchor]

Hello

[indigo tangle]

I really do think that they'll get almost every p1 valkyrie a dkey

dkey has replaced A ranks

[proper plank]

Ehh... not sure

They do seem to be glazing p1 too much

[indigo tangle]

so until they run out of viable S ranks to give dkeys to, theyll probably just keep going

[proper plank]

Releasing every character except p2 cast

[indigo tangle]

p2 cast being relegated to Aop

[proper plank]

Its just a question of at what point do they consider giving early p2 valks dkeys

[indigo tangle]

the new teri look that everyone wanted to be the valkyrie instead of SIMP

relegated to Aop

[proper plank]

It'd probably be a new category because stellar keys enable ring and p2 already has it

[indigo tangle]

lantern needs to be first

[proper plank]

I was so fucking mad that pope teri wasn't playable and we got that shit uncomfortable ass looking design instead

[proper plank]

True girl is not doing well

[indigo tangle]

simp shouldve been the aop

like what were they thinking

[proper plank]

Real

The world if pope teri was a battlesuit

[indigo tangle]

honestly there are P1 valks that need a dkey less than lantern does

[proper plank]

https://tenor.com/view/future-city-scifi-gif-8981694204001806108

[indigo tangle]

[proper plank]

lmao

HoV DKey when

[indigo tangle]

HoV getting a dkey would be generational lowkey

imagine her dominating the game again

after like 49090235 years

[proper plank]

I've lost all hope for that but if it ever happens I will take it

[indigo tangle]

theres technically no bio phys astral ring valk...

hope is not all lost

[proper plank]

Bio as a whole is pretty shit it doesnt even need valks

[indigo tangle]

PAWS was bio's last hurrah

[proper plank]

Wonder when next img is

[indigo tangle]

[proper plank]

I wanted img leylah

[indigo tangle]

I dont know if leylah is even coming

they just keep making p1 alters

[proper plank]

Probably not :(

They'll make a kallen p2 suit before they make Leylah playable

[indigo tangle]

I just want a p2 original valk

[proper plank]

I coped for nahralab aop but that never happened and probably never will

[indigo tangle]

JDS was the last time we got a p2 original valk that wasnt a collab and wasnt an alter of a p2 valk

[proper plank]

I guess vita was 1.5

[indigo tangle]

I count vita as P1

like wtf is p 1.5

thats ridiculous

[proper plank]

Wdym p1 ended with the finality bullshit from ver 6.4

So 1.5 was 6.5-7.2

[indigo tangle]

I dont acknowledge p 1.5 bruh anything before 7.3 is p1 in my mind

[proper plank]

We do refer to valks that way as well tbf

[indigo tangle]

Anyways we can still cope for 9.0 Leylah

[proper plank]

I can't remember where the term 1.5 comes from I am sure its in-game somewhere

[indigo tangle]

although 9.0 leylah with a new astral ring is pretty much not happening

we havent had a valkyrie with the ??? tag in months

[proper plank]

Atp the hype is gone, Leylah should have been cny valk she could have commanded a shadow horse if they really wanted to tie it into cny directly

Mei has a locked skill but its.not for new AR just new "partner"

[indigo tangle]

bring back the ??? tag

[proper plank]

Xd

[indigo tangle]

i liked being in anticipation of a new AR

[proper plank]

??? Tag must pull!!!

[indigo tangle]

nowadays everyones tag is symbiosis and heavenly shift

[proper plank]

Maybe they are low on ideas lmao

[indigo tangle]

its boring

[proper plank]

Nahhh ws supports are overused as fuck

The list is so long for domain resonance

[indigo tangle]

symbiosis is almost as long as domain resonance

which is kind of insane

has there been a single 8.x valk that doesnt have the symbiosis tag actually

theyre damn near spamming it

i think rita doesnt have it but thats pretty much it

[unique scarab]

Rita and then before her the last person to not have it is Sparkle

[indigo tangle]

symbiosis is ONE valkyrie behind domain resonance

LMFAO

[unique scarab]

Anyway tbf on symbiosis trying to play grail without symbiosis supports is hell

And there aren’t free supports like DR

To be less fair Mihoyo should release free Valkyrie

With newer tags

[indigo tangle]

Actually heavenly shift and domain resonance are tied for most valks

heavenly shift is currently the tag with the most amount of S rank valks

meanwhile omniscient star has 4

but that tag is tied to RoO specifically

[unique scarab]

And there’s also paws and hotr and HoO who support certain RoO with no tag

Whereas no other ring has off tag supporters

[harsh cargo]

I'm still waiting for a dkey to be a LoA dps since dkeys have all the other rings already for the valks when played as dps

[indigo tangle]

it would be funny if there was a triple dkey team that doesnt score like crap

right now the only fully dkey team you can do is LV/HoHe/HoRb

but its terrible

[proper plank]

More double releases with A ranks to give f2p options would be ok actually

[harsh cargo]

TC niche team

[proper plank]

Wao psy team

[hearty kelp]

between two meis ik kiana in heaven

[indigo tangle]

dkey is basically the equivalent of A rank now tbf

[harsh cargo]

I like dkeys more than a ranks

[indigo tangle]

they always give dkey valk out for free the patch prior + just like A ranks you only have to pull their gear which is 60 summons

[proper plank]

it doesn't help beginners

How are beginners supposed to get all these old S ranks

[indigo tangle]

But how? dkey valk is functionally the same as A rank

[proper plank]

No its not

[indigo tangle]

Every dkey valk was given out as a free reward shortly before receiving it (except for HoFi which was spending event)

[proper plank]

Yeah not in the same patch so it's bad for the beginner experience

[unique scarab]

A rank cope supports work without their gear. They’re less good without it but they function at all while you’re saving up to get them. If you have Luna but no dkey she’s useless to you

And likewise you had to be playing actively the patch before

To even get her

[proper plank]

Player retention is already kinda bad, spamming dkeys and expecting them to replace A ranks will make it worse

[harsh cargo]

What if they gave dkeys to valks in WT to make it more accessible

[proper plank]

WT valks are not accessible to beginners

[harsh cargo]

Oh

[proper plank]

Not to mention they will never catch up

On the ranks

[unique scarab]

Especially not if they’re AL valks instead of AW

[plush wren]

when has hi3 been

[proper plank]

Yeah but why make it even worse than it already is

[unique scarab]

Maybe if they release HoV or JK dkey it’ll work since she’s free for newbies

But “wt valk” doesn’t help

[indigo tangle]

I mean you had to farm a ranks to SSS for them to be good anyways

WT isnt so much different

[unique scarab]

Or they could just put the new dkey valk in the beginner level rush

Nobody is stopping them

[proper plank]

Yeah and that doesn't take as long

Plus there's no fossil advantage

If its a brand new valk

[proper plank]

Also true but still gotta wait for rerun

Of the dkey itself

And stigs are usually completely useless without dkey right?

Whereas A ranks they are at least somewhat useful

To get and leave at lvl 35

[indigo tangle]

I dont think dkeys replacing A ranks is all that bad, they're given out for free (albeit, not on the debut patch of their new DLC), they still take 60 pulls to get the weapon which is the same as an A rank, and they fill in the role of a DPS and support unlike A ranks which, with one exception, are supports

[proper plank]

If justified

[plush wren]

at least now you're not told to skip 50%+ of released valk because you missed the 1 thing that released before that they can't work without so I'd say it's still better
(like realistically, anyone that started between HoS and HRB could not pull a singular phys valk without bricking)

[tropic stump]

[steel anchor]

Not me still running the default starting crew

[harsh cargo]

I think they should add more old valks to ER for more one time source crystals for f2ps

They stopped doing that for some reason

[proper plank]

Yeah p2 is way better than p1 for beginners I'm just defending how I'd rather hoyo do A ranks for double releases rather than dkeys cuz we have no non-gacha option for symbiosis etc.

[plush wren]

that cope died long ago

[proper plank]

But I do get that this is cope af because a whole new valk is a lot more effort

[indigo tangle]

tbh i doubt that they will release another A rank

[proper plank]

Just ideally they'd release an A rank with each new ring to give beginners a non-gacha support option to help them a bit

[indigo tangle]

I think Helia and Coralie were A rank's last cry into the wind

[harsh cargo]

At least cora1 is still used, heliaA

[proper plank]

Ws as a whole is shit for beginners

[plush wren]

considering the last one was 3 years ago

[plush wren]

*WS as a whole is shit

[proper plank]

Nvm I used my brain and disagree with my own statement

[indigo tangle]

WS is debatably the weakest ring currently

HoRb is kind of carrying it

[proper plank]

A rank helia is just dogshit

[indigo tangle]

meanwhile every single GoI valk is wildly strong in both dps and support

[unique scarab]

Not as good as LoA tho RS who?

[plush wren]

don't worry they'll fix it (with a new premium aop you gotta pull at SS cause songquop is ass)

[indigo tangle]

I dont think that the design of world star itself is the reason why its weak...

the valkyries in it just happen to be... weak...

when's the last time senawho DPS reared its ugly head

[proper plank]

Nah the fact that ws forces you to do a basic sequence which usually has dogshit animations is one of the reasons its weak

[plush wren]

it kinda is tbh, even if p2 as a whole is very rotation-locked, WS is the summum of that. You can't do any shenanigans or cut stuff short to optimize dmg, you blow the entire load or do nothing, no in-between

[indigo tangle]

Enter outburst -> rotate DPS -> support 1 -> support 2 -> rotate dps again... isnt it just the same rotation as GoI?

[plush wren]

but GoI supp 1 and 2 stuff is timestop ults, and you can cut stuff out at different investments lvl or dmg needs

[proper plank]

No, pressing ult a few times (which usually has some kind of sus ani, time fracture, timestop) is not the same as brainlessly spamming atk until your 5 second sequence is over

[edgy oyster]

gurd's in honk chat wtf

[proper plank]

Then you have to do the same for the supports

Its just such a waste of time

[dapper sapphire]

how am i top1 in my bracket with A rank coralie and everyone else have full proper p2 teams

[indigo tangle]

idk if that issue can be fixed

[plush wren]

don't mind me I'm just bored

[edgy oyster]

[indigo tangle]

spamming one button until your resonance marks are spent is kind of the only thing that world star is capable of doing

[edgy oyster]

ello der

[proper plank]

Release better ws valks that don't have such a garbage slow basic sequence

[plush wren]

HFI almost saved them

[proper plank]

Xd

[indigo tangle]

WS is the most creative astral ring in terms of its design philosophy imo

[proper plank]

I suppose so

[indigo tangle]

the other ars are just

solo ar
qte ar
ult ar

[proper plank]

It's creative but not practical

[indigo tangle]

but the devs messed up with WS in a slight way

[plush wren]

but also the least interesting to play

[proper plank]

Yeah lmfao

Idk how they managed that

[plush wren]

and kinda the reason P2 was so poorly received

[indigo tangle]

I mean there's no way to fix ws without it being incredibly anti player

[plush wren]

the gameplay loop was horrible

[edgy oyster]

i backpulled PE cuz i had no phys dps

[proper plank]

Xd

[indigo tangle]

either release an aop that fixes the ring (worst case scenario)

[proper plank]

Imagine if p2 started with goi

[indigo tangle]

or release a WS valk that is literally nothing like her world star sisters

[proper plank]

Way more interesting

[indigo tangle]

and does something totally different

[proper plank]

Or LoA

[plush wren]

or even just Thel

[proper plank]

True thel carried

Still does for MA

[edgy oyster]

i hate ari farming i hate ari farming i hate ari farming

[hearty kelp]

????

[indigo tangle]

They should do an AR where you can spend your ARI even before it's full

and the effect is different for how much ARI you spent

[harsh cargo]

Pull a AOP at SS to mitigate it

[plush wren]

anything that doesn't let you stuck for a minute waiting for the slow bar to fill up before you overkill something 2 times and have to wait again for p2

[proper plank]

Lmfaoo I can see them doing that cuz they'd just release teams that play like p1

[indigo tangle]

I mean what idea could they even do for the next AR

[proper plank]

More p1 glazing

[indigo tangle]

theres an ult AR already

[edgy oyster]

Drya giving pull advices what have we come to

[indigo tangle]

theres a QTE AR

[proper plank]

Joint attacks

Like the olenyevas

[indigo tangle]

WS is functionally the basic attack AR

[proper plank]

Bringing back the light circle mechanic

[indigo tangle]

interesting idea

[edgy oyster]

LIKE MEI AND BRONBRON IN APHO 2

[plush wren]

way too much budget if they do that for more than a singular team

to make them all joint with each other

[proper plank]

Nah not like special animations they can just appear on the field to fight alongside each other

Just have a premade animation

[plush wren]

so WoD ?

[proper plank]

And its the same for every valk

[indigo tangle]

the most realistic options is an AR that lets you spend ARI early or they just add an entirely new button to the UI and make a ring off of that

[proper plank]

No because you'd be able to switch and there'd be more focus on it and they're not a phantom its still a valk

Like maybe you could switch when you see the valk do the joint atk and it does more dmg

[indigo tangle]

or an AR that revolves around dealing stellar assault damage

[proper plank]

Or triggers combo or sth

[sly swift]

3 hours left and I didn't play the abyss yet.

[proper plank]

I'm not a dev but they could make something like that work its not delusional

[edgy oyster]

im about to get to it

[proper plank]

Oh same I put in a dogshit score lol

[indigo tangle]

im concerned for what the next ar will be

will it be as creatively lackluster as the recent ones

[proper plank]

Probably something basic like weapon active abuse

[plush wren]

hoyo seems to be as well

[indigo tangle]

LOL

[plush wren]

cause it's not there

[proper plank]

I'm sure they can do an evasion based AR

[plush wren]

oh god

[indigo tangle]

I mean WS was such a creative idea i thought hoyo had a bunch more under their belt

[plush wren]

ptsd

[fair talon]

but how would that look like?

[indigo tangle]

also why would they announce that there's 12 astral rings while only being sure about the first 5

ur setting expectations you cant meet

[edgy oyster]

how's the evasion moon ring working?

[fair talon]

sounds like the entire ring will be tied to boss patterns even more

[proper plank]

Dw its part 2 so it won't require skill, they will just make it so that evasion autotriggers ue skill and possibly give 1 more ue charge in SO or something

[plush wren]

but they can't do that, that's their S2 selling plans

[indigo tangle]

if hoyoverse is stuck on the 6th AR how is that number supposed to double to 12

[proper plank]

S2 gets 3 eva charges

[unique scarab]

Judging by what Hoyo does with events

[proper plank]

Or 4

[unique scarab]

Next astral ring gonna be the autochess astral ring

[edgy oyster]

[indigo tangle]

LMFAO

[proper plank]

NO PLEASE LMFAOOO

[hearty kelp]

I FORGOT TO CHANGE TO BOSS FUCK

[proper plank]

Yes pls

[plush wren]

just make it open HSR when you press outburst

[indigo tangle]

activate stellar outburst and you have to play TFT for your damage

[fair talon]

what if they make a gundam/mecha ring that just turns your entire team into a giant robot

[edgy oyster]

naxus anima!

[sly swift]

We get resonance shit AR, phantom support AR, QTE AR, ult AR. What to invent now?

[indigo tangle]

boss transition phase requires you to spend 30 shop coins

[proper plank]

HAHAHA

[indigo tangle]

Vita has requested entry

[proper plank]

Gosh zebra keep up, we already said evasion ar, wep ar, autochess ar, hsr ar

[fair talon]

vita can enter with a dk i guess

[edgy oyster]

hsr ar i cant

[indigo tangle]

Can they add an AR that upgrades your aop to SS

because they are useless before that

[proper plank]

lmao

[unique scarab]

I will only forgive it if they introduce welt astral op for it

[proper plank]

Ar that lets you play aop on the field

[fair talon]

yes pls

[plush wren]

oh yeah the whale AR too

[indigo tangle]

thats kind of genius actually

[edgy oyster]

fuch it we ball

[indigo tangle]

an astral op astral ring

[plush wren]

you can actively spend crystals to recharge it faster

[proper plank]

Xdddd

[edgy oyster]

what the fuck is an astral ringgggggg

[indigo tangle]

spending event AR

[proper plank]

Real

[sly swift]

Since Rita ressucitated WoD kinda, let's do the same for WS?

[harsh cargo]

Omg potential man in the big 2026

[proper plank]

Ar that does more dmg the more topup you have

[indigo tangle]

You know what would really revive WoD

an overtuned astral op that is useless until SS

[plush wren]

extra bonus if tier 1/2 whale emblem is equipped

[proper plank]

BAHAHAH

[harsh cargo]

As in letting WS valks trigger detonates outside of SO?

[plush wren]

can even add some for every paladin BP frame in the collection

[fair talon]

Collection based AR

[indigo tangle]

Astral op effect: after topping up $100, stellar outburst cooldown is reduced by 100%

[proper plank]

Nooo I'd lose I only have 1

[indigo tangle]

(resets every patch)

[fair talon]

need more collection score to deal more damage

[proper plank]

HAHA

[plush wren]

but that's just chenxue

[meager torrent]

we get new aop that gives abyss lite on SSS?

[indigo tangle]

We need an new aop that makes lantern not the worst valkyrie in the game

[proper plank]

They introduce abyss lite tokens into paladin bp

Finally paladin is worth it

[indigo tangle]

literally make an aop with a lantern specific passive

[proper plank]

Not even that farfetched

[indigo tangle]

if cora2 can personally shill helia in her skill tree

we can do a lantern AR

[fair talon]

watch it be aop damage (useless)

[plush wren]

nobody will pull that

[proper plank]

Don't aops already have valk specific shit

[indigo tangle]

Songque having a senawho passive

[plush wren]

Sonq does at least

[proper plank]

Yeah

[indigo tangle]

[proper plank]

Lmao

[fair talon]

sera has more self damage on jds lead

surely useful

[plush wren]

and that's also why she's horrible

[indigo tangle]

[proper plank]

Xd

[waxen comet]

AR that combine all 3 valk into 1 valk..

[fair talon]

so does teri on badum

[waxen comet]

[indigo tangle]

At this point hi3 has pushed the limits so much i wouldnt be shocked if an AR did more damage scaling with your topup progress

[proper plank]

Nah they'd never

[plush wren]

tbh Sera dmg did matter on some runs

[proper plank]

Genshin maybe

[fair talon]

how much

[indigo tangle]

genshin is actually the only hoyoverse game that has never had a spending event

[plush wren]

I rember Euphie malding because something was only possible thanks to the SSS Sera nuke

from crit

[proper plank]

Yeah because they fucking hate their playerbase

[fair talon]

damn

[proper plank]

Lol

[indigo tangle]

And Hi3 loves us...

[proper plank]

[plush wren]

and you can't even mald her critting randomly before that like you did for ELFs, it's 0% or 100

[proper plank]

Xdddd

Wtf

[meager torrent]

they still keep the lights on

[indigo tangle]

for the small price of 2 month patches

[fair talon]

better than eos

idk what the fuck I'd do, going back to just hsr feels like too little

[indigo tangle]

play one of the 67 quadrillion gacha games releasing this year and early 2027

[fair talon]

or league...

[meager torrent]

why would you go point at grass

[fair talon]

it's the challenge that partially keeps me going

[meager torrent]

[plush wren]

play sts

[fair talon]

I was literally with horses and cows all day

[indigo tangle]

having SIMP on my account is enough challenge for me

[fair talon]

just wait for 🅱️

wait wtf

i meant bp

otherwise just wait for the next quantum valk, it's been ages

[obtuse glen]

Cela in honkai chat?

[edgy oyster]

ZZZ?

[fair talon]

[indigo tangle]

Its ok im sure hi4th is on the way

[meager torrent]

it's really sad that there are no gaming options

[fair talon]

i haven't touched it since launch

[indigo tangle]

surely hoyoverse wouldnt forget about the original source material and push out games that are honkai games in name alone just to make money

[plush wren]

2nd ping for this is my cue to go and do whatever else

[indigo tangle]

hi4th is on the way

[plush wren]

you never came back

[fair talon]

so is tf3

[edgy oyster]

Installed and never launched

[indigo tangle]

theyre gonna make a direct sequel to hi3 eventually...

[obtuse glen]

When i saw u in chat i thought i was in helpchannel then i looked again

[hearty crypt]

So is OW2

Oh wait :(

[edgy oyster]

it just doesn't do it for me the way HI3 does

[fair talon]

thank god it's dead

[indigo tangle]

yes the newgen tourist hoyo games make everything too easy, we in hi3 love to mald for 3 hours and have an autochess event every patch

[fair talon]

i think they genuinely just have no ideas for event gameplay

[edgy oyster]

nah it's not that, ZZZ can be challenging me thinks

[fair talon]

although cards aren't autochess

[edgy oyster]

but something about gameplay didnt sit with me

maybe i had wrong units

[indigo tangle]

At this point when HNA drops we'll already be experts and will reach endgame on day 1

[plush wren]

I went to ZZZ to mald less than Hi3 and now I spend more time resetting for boss rng than I ever did in honk

[edgy oyster]

maybe should have started with ellen instead of zhu

[plush wren]

and we also have a damn autochess every other patch

[fair talon]

zzz too?

[edgy oyster]

man the angels, cissia, and others so peak designs

[indigo tangle]

HNA better be the best autochess on the market consdering the fact that autochess has infected literally every hoyoverse title

[plush wren]

they changed it so many times since the start

[fair talon]

I've heard

[plush wren]

the gameplay direction is all over the place

[plush wren]

tbh currency wars is goated

[edgy oyster]

ok now, we dont have them EVERY other patch, maybe every 3rd

[indigo tangle]

game direction in hoyo in general seems to be all over the place these days

makes you wonder if theyre diverting resources to an important new title

[plush wren]

HNA on the first beta looked like whatever generic thing

the autochess part had nothing for it

[edgy oyster]

yeah it's the game for the broadest audience apparently, even moreso than genshin

[indigo tangle]

I dont think hoyo will ever have another genshin but im interested in seeing their attempt

[fair talon]

need another covid wave for that

[edgy oyster]

i mean isnt hsr usually higher?

[indigo tangle]

[plush wren]

in player count nah

[edgy oyster]

huh

[tropic stump]

question

[indigo tangle]

I dont know why hoyo cant just funnel a crap ton of funds into hi3 to shorten the patches again

[edgy oyster]

ROI

[tropic stump]

when can i show cgs of the event chapter 3

[indigo tangle]

like realistically whats the issue

[edgy oyster]

it's just not there to do so

[tropic stump]

now with spoiler or

[indigo tangle]

I see

[tropic stump]

?

[edgy oyster]

they tried with part 2 and failed

[tropic stump]

asking evrytone here

[plush wren]

it doesn't generate enough for that to be worth it

[edgy oyster]

cuz the game was dogshit to play

[primal aurora]

It would most likely be a net loss

[edgy oyster]

and story was way too convoluted for its own good

[primal aurora]

Besides I think most players like the longer patches

More time to save

[fair talon]

they don't share funds between games

[meager torrent]

in an attempt to pull in a wider audience killed off 80% of the playerbase oops

[edgy oyster]

it's double edged sword really

less whales to whale on your game

is the other side of the coin

[primal aurora]

True

[edgy oyster]

and that's what really drives the game

[indigo tangle]

I realize that if they are diverting funds to other games, its probably the unreleased ones and not Hi3rd lel

[edgy oyster]

not poorges like us

[indigo tangle]

oh well

[primal aurora]

Damn us poors really be asking for too much

[indigo tangle]

maybe one day hoyo will have such a surplus that the net loss of reinvesting into hi3 will be ok for them to do

[fair talon]

a community still keeps the lights on too, even if not whale

[indigo tangle]

which they already have that surplus but whatever

[edgy oyster]

if we go by usual rules, tomorrow without spoilers i good already? i mean that's how it is for the story chapters so

[meager torrent]

money doesn't make good games, devs do

[tropic stump]

so that means today with spoiler also good

[plush wren]

you need both

[indigo tangle]

hey at least they didnt eos like most devs do

[plush wren]

devs will die without money

[tropic stump]

yoi guys have no idea what this means to me

[indigo tangle]

i guess we have that to be thankful for

[meager torrent]

a wise pepega once said only sith speak in absolutes

[tropic stump]

this is the most beautifull moment in honkek

[edgy oyster]

what a nice flatmates

[tropic stump]

even more beautifuller than kiamei renuin

[fair talon]

wall sized poster

[harsh cargo]

#besties

[primal aurora]

Is it a hot take to say ElyMei is better

[fair talon]

eh

[edgy oyster]

hmmm

[fair talon]

both are popular

[harsh cargo]

Both

[edgy oyster]

it's lukewarm?

[indigo tangle]

close friends besties roomates colleagues...

[tropic stump]

aleady on it

costs 21,99

[edgy oyster]

BocchiNod

[fair talon]

ahaha i knew it

[unique scarab]

Real ones ship Kiana with Bronya

[indigo tangle]

Yep kiana and mei are sure best friends

[primal aurora]

[indigo tangle]

mhm yep

[meager torrent]

the kiaonya fusion was denied so that's not happening

[indigo tangle]

Kiana and Mei's friendship is so strong that they're even closer than husbands and wives are

that's how strong their bond of friendship is

[tropic stump]

the height difference is crazy tho

[fair talon]

well ingame height is bullshit

[tropic stump]

frfr

still funi how tiny kiana is compared to mei

[edgy oyster]

worrysus_hh

[meager torrent]

when mei kicked kianna in the face they looked the same height to me

[fair talon]

it's not kiana being tiny, mei is just a tall woman

[indigo tangle]

That cinematic showed us how close their bond of FRIENDship is

[edgy oyster]

yunaur, could you give me the full picture of that emoji? I want to have it on hand

[primal aurora]

Mei is floating too tho no?

[tropic stump]

nop

[edgy oyster]

179 vs 180 be like

[primal aurora]

Huh

[tropic stump]

shes on the ground

[fair talon]

not on Hyperion 11

[hearty kelp]

lawd gets into p2

[fair talon]

or any part 2 hub

[rich yacht]

aur i dont have it and im on mobile rn

[meager torrent]

her chest bends spacetime hence she looks taller

[tropic stump]

tho i have an problem i can only have one poster in that formant

tho i want another one

so i have either to buy both

and store one away for later

or only buy one

not easy i tell ya

[edgy oyster]

guys guys listen, height in profile does not tranlsate into game proportions, the 3d models are only approximations, if you want sam wacky stuff take a look at Eden's hands size

[fair talon]

just make another wall

ez

[tropic stump]

brohter is aint minecraft

this is real life

[edgy oyster]

sorry, I didn't specify that I don't need it this moment, once you have time and maybe remember

[edgy oyster]

and drywall exists

[rich yacht]

its ok tradie tomorrow when i wake up and get on my laptop maybe i can copy the image

for now i sleep

[edgy oyster]

gn

[tropic stump]

as a german potato who values our craftsmen ship pls never say those words to me ever again

jk

[meager torrent]

ppl waking up

[tropic stump]

nah ill just order kiamei tommorow

[hearty kelp]

FREE ME OML HOW DID YALL DO THIS

[tropic stump]

and the other one i can half

and put on the old kiamei posters

swip swap

tho that would make 3 posters

my wallet cries

[meager torrent]

whats our EU no whel score it's hard to find goldifsh gamers these days

I see high 60s

[indigo tangle]

Nice damage distribution

[edgy oyster]

what's the issue friend?

[hearty kelp]

this is so boring

[edgy oyster]

haha it's not he most exciting there was that's true

[hearty kelp]

whole reason im doing this to get crystals for meimeis wep

[fair talon]

trockenwand

[edgy oyster]

worrysus_hh

how's my atk

[unique scarab]

That’s barely higher than my s2 attack

[tropic stump]

I mean they did marry in GGZ

[hearty kelp]

too low it needs to be 4k to activate cerydras passive

[tropic stump]

Hope KiaMei marry in honkai too

Would be the perfect ending for Them

[edgy oyster]

[fair talon]

better than my 1300 S2

[edgy oyster]

it's not good but ainnoway it's close to what s2 can achieve

[hearty kelp]

lord i gotta finish this all dont i.

[meager torrent]

f2p life clinging to them xtals

[unique scarab]

I was just slandering you my atk is 1522

[edgy oyster]

this took me 500 locks

[limber arch]

You Tell me

Where 904

[hearty kelp]

FUCK

[proper plank]

wtf

whalelibrary

[limber arch]

All this for the affix Box to give you something better

[limber arch]

WOAH

[edgy oyster]

bling bling yo yo

[limber arch]

Gib

[edgy oyster]

ur mean, no

[limber arch]

[proper plank]

omg omg omg omg

yes plis

[edgy oyster]

hmm

wait 10 for 5 is a steal

compared to this

[proper plank]

ye

[edgy oyster]

which is alrgith already

[fair talon]

holy shit

[edgy oyster]

[crisp briar]

all these bundles still not worth my 10 bchips

[edgy oyster]

you have chips?

[crisp briar]

from when i got sponsored

[edgy oyster]

anyashock

by whom

id give nijigon monthly but cant gift shit on glb

why is sea special like that what gives

[crisp briar]

[edgy oyster]

i dont wanna play sushiiiiii

[hearty kelp]

GO WHATEVER

[lost venture]

How

[edgy oyster]

play this god forsaken game for too long

[lost venture]

Wow

[edgy oyster]

oldest box is from 2022 so you know

[hearty kelp]

omg its like jenshin impact

[fair talon]

is this slack?

[calm orbit]

noot noot

[fair talon]

i agree

[harsh cargo]

Highest in my bracket is 790

[dapper sapphire]

superslac

[fair talon]

for the record this is my luna

[dapper sapphire]

wtf

ah gear unlevelled

[fair talon]

reason

[dapper sapphire]

ppl be looking at me

[calm orbit]

uh you can buy them with asterite

[fair talon]

second screenshot.

is why i cant

[calm orbit]

time capsule ?

[fair talon]

yes

[calm orbit]

what about it ? wasted asterite ?

[fair talon]

i like collecting stigmas

[calm orbit]

you bought all the stigs at once ? xd

[crisp briar]

i got 771 so yes
underleveled idc

[hearty kelp]

BE FUCKING VOER ALREADY PLEASEEE

[calm orbit]

what was that -360k ?

[fair talon]

okay better

[crisp briar]

ok time for Nijigon to do a piss

[hearty kelp]

OLET ME OUUUUUUT

[quick panther]

guys new name

[obtuse glen]

[fallen zinc]

Im in the slackyest bracket 763 score in no2 with s1 luna and kianna elf

[calm orbit]

does sub 1.6 count as low ?

[quick panther]

i have 1529

[obtuse glen]

🍼

[calm orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-hsr-sparkle-honkai-star-rail-hsr-sparxie-gif-1147382854414760551

[quick panther]

not fully affixed, not ss, not full dks

[fallen zinc]

I might promote to nirvana this patch if I work more

[quick panther]

welcome to the grownup party

[calm orbit]

1570

[quick panther]

i wish i had that

[fallen zinc]

Then get demoted after I get in

[fair talon]

i mean what do you have

[calm orbit]

almost VI VII

[fallen zinc]

20 days till 1500 login

Imma be a grandma 👵

[quick panther]

he was talking about teams

[fair talon]

nice

[quick panther]

lmao so baby

[fair talon]

but yeah

[fallen zinc]

No i just ment in genral

[fair talon]

i meant teams

[fallen zinc]

I went to check my login

[fair talon]

i guess aop will matter

[quick panther]

yeah but the person who asked was talking about teams

[fallen zinc]

Wow great grandma

[fallen zinc]

Woops text mixing

[quick panther]

i should have had 3000 already

but phone couldnt play honk

[fair talon]

i'm a fetus

[quick panther]

wadababy

[fallen zinc]

I joined in 2021 baby times

[calm orbit]

what is I am then

[fallen zinc]

2021 feels so recent but it is kinda so far away like that was covid

[quick panther]

same as me, we just a few monts in logins appart

but im 2 years older

[fallen zinc]

Mythical grandma

[obsidian hare]

very young

[calm orbit]

I would have joined when hov dropped but game didnt work so went away

[fair talon]

must've been a crazy new years

[calm orbit]

good ol elevator stuck

then came when hot dropped

[obsidian hare]

not bad

[calm orbit]

[edgy oyster]

NilouWheeze

[edgy oyster]

this will be the first tile to go on my honkai chat bingo

[hearty kelp]

GIRL COME BACK WHY IS SHE SPEED WALKING 😭

[quick panther]

[meager torrent]

for comedic impact

[calm orbit]

surely

[fallen zinc]

Oh songque

[fair talon]

she knows the legendary joestar technique

https://tenor.com/view/nigerundayo-joestar-running-away-joseph-joestar-secret-technique-gif-15112346

[hearty kelp]

i fell

[wind peak]

[edgy oyster]

man where is my fucking ARI

[quick panther]

man where the fuck is my dmg in my case

[edgy oyster]

[sick talon]

SS luna big, without it no damuj

[hearty kelp]

I TAB OUT FOR 2 MINUTES WTF

[sly swift]

1 hour left

[indigo tangle]

Surtr...

[fallen zinc]

This card game actually fun

[limber arch]

[strange idol]

4 years ago, silver wing released

[harsh cargo]

Stop this was Coachella 2016 like you don’t understand this was just the vibe at the time alright

Chat I just realized I can just turn off badum qte for lv teams

For this abyss

[edgy oyster]

any idea how much of a bar is 7,7m on the finisher?

[formal badge]

[quick panther]

thanks, you made me feel old

i hate you

[eager cape]

🙏

[strange idol]

You’re welcome

Everlasting flames was 5 years ago

[quick panther]

it wasnt

you are lying

[strange idol]

2021

[quick panther]

so last year?

[strange idol]

It’s now 2026

[quick panther]

its not

[calm orbit]

everlasting covid /s

[strange idol]

Herrscher of thunder is 6 years old

7 thunders is 3 years old

Time marches on, our bodies turn to dust

[quick panther]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-13148928981517710530

[calm orbit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/446011203244916747/1098988789826867250/IMG_1568-1.gif

[quick panther]

i still remember when himeko's death was spoiler

[paper lance]

I think we all agree that Mei Kiana does better than Mei Cora here

[queen leaf]

it really depends lol

[paper lance]

Oof

[calm orbit]

where is here ?

[paper lance]

RL

[calm orbit]

idk 715 wouldnt even retain in my group rn

[wind peak]

i can finally use Luna

[calm orbit]

but still 30 min theres got to be one sniper

lmao 4 pretenders

[crisp briar]

Nijigon did scor

4% gameplay

[calm orbit]

4% battery ?

[paper lance]

Guess I'm retaining barely

[edgy oyster]

im about to get beaned for my hate for sushang, why wont evasion trigger in the opening istg

[crisp briar]

Nijigon needs prism...

but carnival...

[paper lance]

Bro wtf why tf I'm not finding any guide for Kiamei Lunar

[crisp briar]

bc team ain't kiamei

[unique scarab]

Badum Mei works fine

A Luna supports

[crisp briar]

isn't PS a core one for this cycle?

[unique scarab]

PS, Badum, FDD, Mei

All score within a handful of points

Any combo tbh

Mei Cora and Ps Badum are the most common pairs I see tho

[paper lance]

I don't have PS, FDD Xentinel and Badum are my only options for Luna on this boss

[unique scarab]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ZjcgzLEva/ here’s FDD Mei

If that helps

[hearty kelp]

this height feels more like the actual differences they have
WAS THAT A KISS??????