i haven't used any mods that add new elite types
#ror2-modding
astral owl
the only enemy mods i have are archaic wisp and clay man
i do want more good ones tho
sly moss
the big one is Flood Warning and, uh, whatever KomradeSpectre is doing
astral owl
hmmm
sly moss
i think they might be in aetherium but 🤷
astral owl
i just looked over flood warning
very cool, installed
although i won't lie most of these skills sound really op
sly moss
yeah im pretty sure most of the mod is broken
split lantern
Let's make a stupid artifact called Artifact of Explosion
Where Glowing Meteorite procs every 5 minutes
Then again we DO have the item >_>
....I'm gonna test out Enforcer shield + Glowing Meteorite
astral owl
i wish engineer's bubble shield worked for meteorite
but the meteorites don't actually fall they just spawn explosions on the ground
dapper snow
Is Aatrox not compatible with controllers when it comes to using Blood Price? I hold the button down but it never seems to register.
sly moss
yes
real crown
any working portal mod
fervent bluff
i wonder if anyone is working on mods related to changing parts of Sundered Grove? it's something that got a lot of attention and criticism lately, i'd be surprised if nobody was working on any mods to change aspects of it (such as boss selection, what type of stage it appears as, how legend chest works, etc)
tulip warren
maybe
sly moss
i dont think there are any mods in the works for it atm
the only issue i have with the stage is that bosses almost never spawn inside the teleporter zone lol
reef yoke
Grove is by far the best stage in terms of visuals
sly moss
agreed
reef yoke
but man the enemy spawns and terrain without vertical mobility can be a pain
sly moss
considering the stage of the game it first appears i think its a little better than alt roost but not by much
plus since its a 4th stage and thus has many credits, i tend to explore the whole thing anyways
reef yoke
true
tulip warren
some one try to make a crossplay mod
sly moss
meanwhile lately ive been feeling like roost only has 2 chests total esp on stage 1
reef yoke
at least the legendary chest gimmick is done way better
tulip warren
or something
reef yoke
some one try to make a crossplay mod
@tulip warren you cant mod consoles
or, well, you can, but not legally
sly moss
i think you overestimate the extent to which modders can change the game
a crossplay mod is, uh, literally impossible
reef yoke
and even then servers wouldnt allow it
stable skiff
tulip warren
me and my friend just wanna play together without having to switch buy the game again or buy console just to get game to play together
reef yoke
too bad?
sly moss
well sorry man but we cant help you
tulip warren
They are really going to have to make it a feature in future updates
sly moss
its probably not going to happen unfortunately
reef yoke
crossplay isn't easy to make, you know
plus, all the big 5 need agreements on the servers
tulip warren
how many people even made the game
sly moss
doing crossplay would involve completely removing steam's hand in networking on pc, and writing a totally new networking system
reef yoke
how many people even made the game
@tulip warren 3
sly moss
its 3 people making the game
reef yoke
maybe 4 if you count sfx
sly moss
chris didnt do sfx if thats what you mean
reef yoke
no
tulip warren
sadness so no play with frien ever
sly moss
if you want to include separate teams helping with smaller things then its a good few more people
reef yoke
i mean someone else did the sfx but its not really making the 'game'
tulip warren
excuse me imma go cri in corner now
sly moss
but for the most part its hopoo, paul, and ghor making the game
reef yoke
Duncan, Paul and Jeff
sly moss
uh huh
reef yoke
kinda sad how Jeff wasn't in the interview with Woolie but whatever
it was very fun to watch
sly moss
🤷
dense trout
go to thunderstore.io, get r2modman, browse and install mods through there
click "play modded" in r2modman
meager mango
Thx ❤️
tulip warren
hmmm
meager mango
Do you have some good mods for me to try ? Like some useful ones ?
meager mango
Speedy beetles ?
Is there a mod to get all item stats + stacks in inventory ?
Idk how to explain but when watching inventory and placing cursor on an item it actually tells you actual items stats (+stacks)
chilly glen
Speedy beetles makes beetles fast
meager mango
why is this a "good mod" then xd
chilly glen
Because beetles become fast
Idk how to explain but when watching inventory and placing cursor on an item it actually tells you actual items stats (+stacks)
Pretty sure itemstats does this
I'd also get betterui & enemy item display
meager mango
thx
astral owl
someone was talking earlier about the prospect of mods to 'fix' the issues with sundered grove
if that were something someone was gonna do i would hope for them to add a lot more lighting to the map
nimble field
what are the issues?
astral owl
most of the areas beneath the 'surface' of the map are hard to see in imo
the big one is that the bosses never spawn in the teleporter area
because there's usually something above the teleporter area and they spawn on that instead
nimble field
so that, clips and lighting?
astral owl
yeah
i would also change the soundtrack on the stage to something unique, probably just take it from the ror1 ost
nimble field
@worthy token which one do you have?
worthy token
agile chasm
what are the best quality of life mods to download?
mossy lagoon
scrollablelobbyui, scannerplusone, itemexchangenotifier, rtautosprintplus, betterui, characterrandomizer
agile chasm
thanks
mossy lagoon
np
jade prairie
and itemstatsmod
mossy lagoon
yeah that too
jade prairie
if you have unmoddedversion, they should, except maybe scannerplusone and rtautosprint
agile chasm
i'm not quite sure i understand what rtsprintplus does
chilly glen
Automatically sprints
agile chasm
ooh nice
chilly glen
Pretty sure that's what it does anyways
agile chasm
and i assume characterrandomizer allows you to randomly pick a survivor?
jade prairie
and loadout iirc
agile chasm
cool
and how does unmoddedversion work? does it just auto-activate when i go online?
mossy lagoon
most of those should work clientside except autosprint afaik
and yeah unmoddedversion just changes the build id youre running
jade prairie
can i get some help with renaming text files? i tried renaming most of them and was successful but then when i finished i got this and a few other files that worked before now look like this too
nimble field
you should have them in quotation marks
"ARTIFACT_SACRIFICE_NAME" : "Artifact of Sacrifice",
"ARTIFACT_SACRIFICE_DESCRIPTION" : "Resident sleeper",
like this for example
jade prairie
I’ll see if I messed that up
acoustic raft
does anyone with any experience with this mod know why it might not be working in conjunction with the sacrifice artifact?
mossy lagoon
its broken
mossy lagoon
it works by quickly turning the command artifact on and then back off
during an item drop
acoustic raft
do you know of anything similar to it, trying to add a bit more choice to sacrifice rather than you get what you get
mossy lagoon
so it messes up the command artifact too
i guess so
but you get what you get is kinda the name of the game
also sacrifice is already so strong
acoustic raft
well yeah, but normally you have like trishops and such
so was hoping to add a bit of something to sacrifice like that
to lower its boringness
hardy wind
acoustic raft
If I am using custom spawn items to start with a specific item, how does the config work?
I dont know which numbers associate to items
tulip warren
hmmmmmmmm
mossy lagoon
use startingitemsgui
south ibex
https://thunderstore.io/package/KingEnderBrine/ProperSave/2.5.1/ anyone know where the save files for this are stored?
delicate swift
yo i dont know if this is the case but when i have mods the teleporter sometimes doesnt spawn
sly moss
when that happens, we need you to send an output log and ideally get a video confirming the teleporter hasnt spawned
otherwise we cant help you
real crown
how can i get persistant bazaar portal
proper orchid
magic birch
@real crown Flood Warning adds an artifact that will always spawn blue portal
real crown
@magic birch ty
nimble field
betterui
meager mango
and what's the mod which automatically sorts items by rarity ?
wise ferry
betterui
nimble field
lmao
meager mango
and can you play with mods like utility ones online ?
with friends who plays vanilla
meager mango
i must play with no mods to play with a friend vanilla ?
chilly glen
You can install unmoddedversion
Makes it so you use qol/ui mods with people playing vanilla
chilly glen
That
gray mulch
Tiny mods that only change UI
inner palm
Quality of life. Little changes that improve experience without drastically modifying gameplay
nimble field
Quality of life. Little changes that improve experience without drastically modifying gameplay
gray mulch
It needs to be zero impact on gameplay to work with unmodded
meager mango
And you can play modded with friends if they use same mods ?
gray mulch
Yes
meager mango
thx boys
mossy lagoon
yeah you can use r2modman to export a profile to your friends so it'll be identical
acoustic raft
are there any mods available that allow me finer control over the drop chances of aspects without adding any other effects to them?
magic birch
Bossitemdrop will do almost what you want i’m pretty sure. Just turn off the extra stuff in the config
@acoustic raft
worldly otter
Is there an eta on when official mod support will be implemented, or at least any information as to how it will be implemented?
jade prairie
none on either
sly moss
modding is basically already officially supported
if youre asking steam workshop support, which might i add is by no means the only form of mod support, yes there is no ETA
its possible it may not be coming ever
gray mulch
Its on the table, and has been discussed.
sly moss
thats good to hear
crystal pecan
Artifact Of Distortion seems to be bugged, as it only locks one ability a stage and doesn't swap.
sly moss
which mod
crystal pecan
Flood Warning
crystal pecan
nothing is actually wrong, distortion just only locks one. the only red text in the file is stuff that's pretty normal, as my modded experience is a bit buggy
sly moss
send it anyways
crystal pecan
oh
crystal pecan
anyway I think I was just extremely unlucky because it changed
warm oxide
dduuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkk
mossy lagoon
you have been le pwned
crystal pecan
what's that mod that lets you mix and match any survivor's abilities
what's it called
mossy lagoon
is broken
crystal pecan
fuck
serene lance
How do you get the skill that requires you to dance as Enforcer
serene lance
thank you
real crown
why when peoiple join my multiplayer modded lobby, they cant see their character
andi cant see them
sly moss
does everyone have the same mods as you
real crown
no
sly moss
what mods are you using
real crown
i used to have a modpack that didnt need others to have the mod
sly moss
what mods are you using
real crown
S5l4xgAEfV
sly moss
could you just list them
are you using content mods, like characters, items, skins, etc
real crown
sly moss
thats a yes then
almost all mods wont work unless everyone has them installed
only client sided mods will work
real crown
it seemed to work in the past with another guys modpack
sly moss
a modded public server im guessing?
real crown
yea
sly moss
those dont work the same as just hosting a lobby yourself
sly moss
what mods did you use then
real crown
i deleted the profile cause i edited too many settings accidentally but there was like 80 mods :S
sly moss
sounds real credible
real crown
i messaged the dude for another code for the pack
oh
i just validated files now it works
sly moss
right
real crown
whaTS the mod you press f1 and u can see the mods and configs?
sly moss
doesnt exist tmk
real crown
Bepinex_ConfigurationManager by IFixYourRoR2Mods is the one
naw it was Flood Warning making multiplayer not work
junior ferry
Is there an unused HAN-D survivor with at least one working skill in the vanilla game?
chilly glen
I don't know how functional all the skills are, but I think at least one of them works
sly moss
yes
restive grove
hey guys how u set up a share item drop in mod like the pyre us-e u see in lobbies?
noble crater
so uhhh
i downloaded 600+ mods and game wont start
well it starttes
but the green start button or whatever to actually start a run.. say mobile?
if you happen to have created this mod plz tell me otherwise just laugh at the guy who decided this was a good idea (me)
livid marsh
Coud you mod on ps4 If you load the mod on a usb-stick and then plug IT in to the consolle?
near basin
@livid marsh i am like 99.99% shure - no
trail stag
Modding consoles is possible but it needs way more work than that and ive only seen it done on a handful of games
nimble field
is the file structure different?
wise ferry
The entire platform is different
You also don't get access to the file structure without modding your console initially
gray mulch
Modding consoles is not possible.
Like even long term. Consoles have similar restrictions to IOS in terms of what code is allowed to run, which totally kills all the tricks we have for modifying game code.
maybe next gen xbox + a unity version from 3-4 years in the future could do it?
Alternatively, hopoo could also remake literally the entire game to male it so we don't ever need to modify any game code.
mossy lagoon
crazy that it's not like that already smh lazy devs
gray mulch
It may be possible on xbox now depending on how uwp is implemented. But unity uwp is deprecated so... Yeah...
And I doubt the ror2 build for xbox is uwp
wise ferry
I'm not sure how DLLs are handled on other platforms and I'd assume PS releases get them embedded or something
I'd presume the easiest would be Xbox as that runs a modified version of windows iirc
gray mulch
Playstation uses il2cpp, as does xbox
wise ferry
Ah right
gray mulch
In theory, unity from future land uses .net 5 or core, and xbox from future land can run that, so also in theory, modding is possible.
This all said, some mods can work on consoles as is. If hopoo makes some kind of loading system, skin mods at least are possible.
nimble field
ror2 ps3?
gray mulch
No, but ror3 will be on ps2
nimble field
i mean would it be possible to install mods that way
gray mulch
So the core problem here is something called code execution policy.
To give a super basic overview, it is a rule that determines what code is allowed to run and what code is not.
On desktop, there are not many restrictions on it.
On consoles and mobile, there are.
gray mulch
In particular, any executing code cannot be in writeable memory. (Basically)
Unity runs on top of a platform called .net, which uses something called a jit compiler. A jit compiler takes some file as input (a .dll usually) and, converts it to code while the program runs. It then runs the code.
There are a lot of advantages to doing things this way, but in essence the jit needs to write its code to some place and then run the code it wrote. Mods can take advantage of that by overwriting the code it wrote (sorta)
On platforms that do not allow for writeable memory to be executed, unity instead pre-compiles everything, which means that we lose that ability.
nimble field
im not so basic i know this 
gray mulch
The version of ror2 distributed for consoles is pre compiled. So even if you were to somehow flash windows onto your console, you wouldn't be in a position to mod.
nimble field
so for mods the console dev team would have to release a not compiled version?
gray mulch
And the consoles would need to change their OS (and maybe even hardware) to allow for jit compilers to work.
wise ferry
Yeah it's not the case of the devs releasing a non compiled version, it's the case of that the platform wouldn't allow that to run regardless
nimble field
what if someone reverse engineered and rewrote risk 2 for personal use? 😂 .
gray mulch
Trust me, if it was possible it would be done.
nimble field
i can see some people doing that but redistributing would be illegal most likely
wise ferry
If it's homebrewed and compiled, and you've added all the mod functionality yourself, then sure
But yes redistribution would be illegal
nimble field
so it's possible?
gray mulch
And uh.... The amount of work involved....
wise ferry
If you write a game yourself, yes, the same way literally everyone else does things
But at that point it isn't modding
Not really anyway
gray mulch
Yeah its just making a new game in unity from scratch
nimble field
i think risk 1 modding reverse engineered gamemaker code and made a translator lua to gamemaker? but idk
wise ferry
That's PC though right?
gray mulch
- this is just a super high level overview. The devil with this is going to be in the details.
wise ferry
No console mods
nimble field
is console that different? apart from the language
gray mulch
Yes very.
wise ferry
literally just been over this
the way that code execution is allowed is entirely different
So whilst theoretically you could reverse engineer something, you still wouldn't have that drag+drop mod install functionality
nimble field
yep
gray mulch
Reason I said there is more hope for xbox is that microsoft made .net, and they like to add support for it on everything.
sly moss
i downloaded 600+ mods and game wont start
bruh thunderstore barely has 600 mods
last i checked it had 600 so this dude probably downloaded every single mod on the thunderstore
yeah thunderstore has between 624 and 648
that arent deprecated that is
idk man
not even modpack modpack has that many mods
truly
sly moss
lol
nimble field
how do i get this
sly moss
modpack modpack wont load for most people
nimble field
i cant download it
sly moss
i think it takes an enormous amount of ram and i only have 8gb 😬
nimble field
i have 32
sly moss
cant even download it?
that kind of mirrors my experience with it tbh
r2modman STRUGGLES but i got it to download once
nimble field
do you have the files? can you dm them to me?
sly moss
its A LOT of files
wise ferry
r2modman doesn't struggle, the percentages are just broken 👀
mossy lagoon
lazy dev can't even fix percentages smh
wise ferry
Percentages are hard
magic birch
make it like the old loading bars of young internet
have it go backward/down in percentage randomly
@wise ferry
wise ferry
oh no
nimble field
that'd be cool
gray mulch
% bar starts spinning
serene lance
how many bustling fungus do you need to become one with the bungus for Enforcer?
magic birch
just a few, then stand still for 5 minutes in game time
easiest to do after you kill a teleporter boss and clear out minions
serene lance
thank you, and I like r2modman, its no vortex, but I like how I can browse mods on it
mossy lagoon
r2modman is loads better than vortex
but I guess a lot of that is bc of how horrible modding the kinds of games it handles is
wise ferry
Vortex absolutely has to handle more complex installations, although I really think the UI could be improved tenfold
It's really not intuitive at all
A lot of things in the manager are currently quite modular so theoretically you could use it as a base for your own with r2modman as like a git submodule or something
but why do that when you can make it from scratch 😎
nimble field
cbtmanager?
wise ferry
CBManager would be CloudBurstManager
nimble field
ekbr is there darkmode?
nimble field
it's not really dark imo
wise ferry
nimble field
just indigo
wise ferry
Don't know about you, but I think that's pretty dark compared to this
acoustic raft
no delete it
aaaaaah my eyes
mossy lagoon
what da
upper mirage
Running aroud whilst dead?
sly moss
what the hell is that
jade prairie
I am guessing an elite type
nimble field
what it do? looks sick btw
acoustic raft
I have never seen that elite
is that fancy new mod?
never seen it in a mod before I mean
ooh, exciting
those elites look really good
lament rampart
Become polygons
Unrelated to the mod, but seeing Beetle Queen made me think
Can you farm Beetles spawned by the Queen for an aspect?
Obviously the odds are slim. But could you?
Not bad. I'll keep that in mind.
nimble field
poglygons
mossy lagoon
what does the elite do
noble crater
600 mods is way too many lol
@nimble field im going to force it to work i spent 3hours downloading them all ill spend another 6 getting it right
sly moss
theres literally like 630 mods on the thunderstore including modpacks
wise ferry
Pretty sure ModpackModpack doesn't work anyway though
sly moss
how did you download that many mods
nimble field
my pc ran 400 mods with 18-28gb ram usage
sly moss
modpackmodpack isnt even 300 lol
nimble field
it is 400 lol
noble crater
bruh thunderstore barely has 600 mods
@sly moss i did in fact download all of them. i did this on purpose. i want to watch my pc burn
sly moss
ok
wise ferry
Did you download any deprecated ones?
nimble field
yeah but it wont even run cause there's not enough ram to allocate unless you have at least 64gb of ram afaik
sly moss
thunderstore has 630 non-deprecated mods
noble crater
i have been slowly disabling all mods that are depreciated/ dont work
wise ferry
If it's deprecated you shouldn't download it
sly moss
i see
noble crater
ye
i need to find the ones that change the character select too much
as of rn it takes... about 10 minutes? to launch fully, it places me in character select instantly, but i cant select a character or press start
i have about 20 pages of characters tho!
sly moss
wow
nimble field
what's your pc specs
nimble field
pog
noble crater
[Error : Unity Log] KeyNotFoundException: The given key was not present in the dictionary.
keeps popping up in the log. cant find a mod referenced in it to disable
mossy lagoon
time to binary search 600 mods 
noble crater
to what
mossy lagoon
noble crater
i have 600 mods
mossy lagoon
disable the skins
mossy lagoon
just disable ryanskinapi it'll automatically disable the dependants
noble crater
you have been modding here awhile havent you
mossy lagoon
hehe
noble crater
like i literally just hit that modpack and skipped it cause i didnt know whatt all it was connected to
then you send disable that one lol
sly moss
what do those elites even do
explain yourself@woeful notch
yes
youre legally required to
or i will remove your rights
i see 😳
noble crater
i c
will download that when its finished
[Error : Unity Log] MissingMethodException: bool RoR2.CharacterMaster.get_alive()
i believe thatts all i have left
nimble field
some character mod I guess
noble crater
i disabled every mod with the word character in it . but sadly thats aint all of em lol
noble crater
this is the main reoccurring error. but it calms down once the game actually starts to give that character error
noble crater
how did you get that from that hunk of text
tell me ur secrets
nimble field
noble crater
true enough. ok
noble crater
if i had to guess id say ryanskinAPI
gaunt timber
That's an API I thought, not a skin pack?
gaunt timber
I've got it already and the majority of skin packs, thanks for the help though
Maybe it was deprecated..
noble crater
im new to modding ror2 (just downloading them), but all i know is that that "pack" has tons of skins
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOIZ
@woeful notch thank you that worked
jade prairie
Ryanskinapi is not a ton of skinpacks. its an API that makes modding skins easier
noble crater
ok well its dependencies are many
[Error : Unity Log] MissingMethodException: bool RoR2.CharacterMaster.get_alive()
Stack trace:
MiniMap.MiniMap.Update () (at <8d63848ff31840dd972890f8c2a5e14a>:IL_0017)
this is i think the final error thats ruining things
yep just looked at it again and removed the 3 minimap mods i have lol. starting now
gonna figure out how to turn this into a modpack and im gonna call it pain
jade prairie
so i'm editing the text files for the map names and for no reason some of them don't accept the new name and do stuff like this
the default id name in the files but not the new name
these
and more
noble crater
newts party lol. i like it
noble crater
so when doing the same edit of those maps names, it resets it to default?
jade prairie
?
even when i rewrote in the default names it still happened
like it just shows up as WISP__GRAVEYARD_...
agile chasm
is there a mod that lets captain use orbital strike and beacons in hidden realms?
noble crater
imma be real with u cheif idk how to mod jack shit im looking at syntax in how u edited
is there a mod that lets captain use orbital strike and beacons in hidden realms?
@agile chasm yes
agile chasm
nvm i found one
mossy lagoon
admiral does
jade prairie
all the other stages are working fine except for those few
heavy vale
I just had an idea. Would it be possible to make a mod where 1 player controls some of the directors?
would be pretty funny to give your friend an overloading elder lemurian horde of many lmao
serene lance
idk but sounds amazing
also is there a mod that adds an item that gives an extra charge to your R ability, because theres items for every other one, just not R
serene lance
okay
agile chasm
my risk of rain 2 folder does not have winhttp.dll
how do i get it?
sly moss
what the hell is that
mossy lagoon
my risk of rain 2 folder does not have winhttp.dll
how do i get it?
@agile chasm are you using r2modman?
serene lance
How would one go about making a mod
serene lance
thank you
serene lance
okay
sly moss
i dont understand
mossy lagoon
no
agile chasm
what's the mod that makes the game unmodded when you go online?
chilly glen
Unmodded version
mossy lagoon
not sure if that's what they're asking
but jankdown you can just click launch vanilla from r2modman if you don't want mods
magic birch
yo bread i feel like you would've tried it, what does the DontLoseYourWay mod do
mossy lagoon
it does nothing
I haven't tried it but apparently some folks looked at the code and it doesn't do anything
serene lance
does anyone know how to use Visual studio, I keep getting errors, I need help
This is my problem
I have all of those
split lantern
anyone know why anyone who tries to join in midgame always get black screens even with dropin multiplayer enabled?
gray mulch
Do you have any character mods? those require everyone to have them installed.
split lantern
everyone has them installed
magic birch
i've found at a certain point you hit a critical mass of mods and spectating/drop just won't work
there might be a specific mod/set of mods that cause this but after i started hitting 70ish mods i rarely get people who can spectate
robust willow
anyone know why command artifact works for a few chests with mods and then it dissapears
jade prairie
Does anyone know how to solve the issue with svisitems where it causes elites attack/death effects to stack
nimble field
bro jythian use dark mode 
dense trout
@serene lance You do not have the libraries in your /libs folder
You can either copy them from your game/beinpex folder, or you can link those directly by removing the old ones and clicking on the dependencies and browsing to your game files
We can also help you better and more indepth on the modding discord, which you will find linked in the pins of this channel
mossy lagoon
anyone know why command artifact works for a few chests with mods and then it dissapears
@robust willow uninstall the commandartifactitemdrops mod
magic birch
^
nimble field
anyone know any very unique/cursed ror2 mods?
mossy lagoon
artifact of doom
nimble field
that's normal
nimble field
anything else?
jade prairie
stuff like this is happening to a lot of stages and their subtexts when i edited the files and I have no idea why, all I did was change the text i checked multiple times. anyone have any ideas?
eager patio
doesnt look like a well funded textbook to me
jade prairie
right?
public schools these days
nah but fr though ive been trying at this for like 2 days i have no idea what to do
magic birch
try watching your console upon loading a level you've tried to rename and see what it's calling in the console
maybe you missed a location or function that's pulling old defaults from somewhere
or not understanding your customs
magic birch
ctrl alt `
jade prairie
ty
magic birch
you can also get the log from the copy log option on ror2 modman if you leave it open
and just open it in notepad
winter moss
Ok I can’t code for crap so I’m gonna say I feel like a jak and daxter mod and ghost buster character mod would be fun
Just throw people around with the proton pack and switch between different eco powers
robust willow
@mossy lagoon ty
jagged rain
Is there a mod for Chef? I think it would be cool in risk of rain 2
sly moss
nope
chilly glen
😔
sly moss
nope to the mod
chef cant really be implemented atm because of the way sawmerang was implemented (total spaghetti)
which basically means you cant do boomerang attacks unless you want every single boomerang attack to bleed in the same way sawmerang does but only while sawmerang is equipped
acoustic raft
sawmerang lol
it do be sticking on the environment though
sly moss
now ofc... they could just rewrite sawmerang functionality
but might as well just wait for the devs to fix it haha
hallow heath
a chef is technically being worked on
crystal pecan
gordon ramsay in risk of rain 2
sly moss
no you dont have to use the sawmerang code
but you do have to use the boomerang projectile code if you want to make boomerang attacks without writing your own boomerangs
and the boomerang projectile code is scuffed cause of sawmerang
gray mulch
genfixes fixes it so you can make chef if you depend on genfixes :)
reef yoke
i dont even play with mods at all but just learning these kinds of things through this chat is awesome
vestal flicker
is there a mod like unmoddedclients or steambuildID that isnt deprecated?
i want to play shared items with a new friend and i dont want him to have to mod the game
well, WE want to play shared items. he thought there was an artifact that makes players share items and he was a bit upset when he found out it doesnt even exist
chilly glen
unmoddedversion
vestal flicker
thanks
high viper
Unmodded version is great
I’ll never play this game without item rarity sorting again
clear meteor
does anyone here know if mods work on linux?
wise ferry
They do, just with a few extra steps
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2228187072
There's this for getting r2modman working
feral valley
Are there any recources out there to help someone begin the modding process? I've never modded before and I'm not sure how or where to start. Thanks!
gray mulch
We've got a wiki going, and the modding discord is fairly helpful.
sly moss
yep, id always recommend starting with the "first mod" section of the wiki, and making sure you have all the requirements it lists at the top of the page https://github.com/risk-of-thunder/R2Wiki/wiki/[In-depth]-First-mod
the big one is
Basic knowledge of C# OR a willingness to learn
but luckily C# is (in my opinion and i think the opinion of some others?) a fairly easy language to learn
feral valley
I have a good grasp on C++ so hopefully I can take what I know and use it here. Thanks!
sly moss
sounds like a great start already, good luck and have fun 😊
feral valley
Thank you !
prime ice
does anyone here know if mods work on linux?
@clear meteor
There is a mod manager that is native to Linux. https://thunderstore.io/package/Foldex/r2mod_cli/
visual notch
Still no steam workshop?
magic birch
"still" it's not planned or anything lmao
sly moss
yea but its really easy to mod regardless
visual notch
It's 100% easy
mossy lagoon
steam workshop 
jade prairie
look up ror2 modman. it has 885 mods to choose from. easily really good
wise ferry
r2modman gets the mods from Thunderstore
mossy lagoon
no way you made all of them stop being so humble
obtuse lily
ancient ridge
how do i unsee an image
digital elbow
Where are the config files located for mods?
Some of them I'm not able to edit through ror2 modman
sly moss
not all mods have config
digital elbow
Alrighty thanks, actually they said specifcally the did have configs but they didnt show up on the mod manager
mossy lagoon
did you run the game?
digital elbow
Yeah I did and couple of times before, but actually running it now seems to be working
wide compass
DUDE SOMEONE MADE A MITHRIX MOD
WHERE YOU CAN PLAY AS MITHRIX
This is pretty cool
magic birch
the one you spawn as using debug toolkit is worse
atual mithrix is very janky, the player mod is definitely better than vanilla mithrix
mossy lagoon
"it's boss mithrix, let him interact with stuff and added a bit of base regen but otherwise unchanged"
ocean rain
yo so I want to install a mod but I don't really understand how
I got the r2api and BepInExPack thing but I don't get how to install the mods in them
wise ferry
@ocean rain Try using a mod manager
ocean rain
got it to work somehow
real crown
ye
chilly glen
Betterui, itemstats
mossy lagoon
does someone have names of qol mods ?
@meager mango
scrollablelobbyui, scannerplusone, itemexchangenotifier, rtautosprintplus, betterui, itemstatsmod, characterrandomizer, propersave, autoskipintrocutscene, showdeathcause, pingprovements, radialpings,
qualityoflifechanges and comfyqol are also great but include more than just qol changes and probably require configuration
other smaller mods that arent really qol: ai_blacklister, noenigmarecycler, arrow_rain_buff, phase_round_lightning, slicingwindbuff, partialmetamorphosis, accumulativeartifacts, itemtweaks (probably needs configuration), colorfilters, photomode, commandchanges
also debugtoolkit, lighterpatcher, stutterstunter
marble shale
does anyone know the origin story of neon and his personal vc?
mossy lagoon
no
gray mulch
Genfixes is qol if you find game too easy ;)
mossy lagoon
^not biased
nimble field
based, even
trail stag
coral wagon
explain
candid fern
are there mods that work in multiplayer without the host having them
mossy lagoon
betterui, itemstatsmod
echo temple
serene lance
how do you make a friend on the moon as Enforcer
sly moss
acoustic raft
does anyone know of any mods that would allow me to disable or tweak the cost of certain interactable spawns, specifically mountain shrines?
nimble field
digital elbow
Hey guys, got some mods installed and my our health pools went from in the 800-1000 to less than 100.
Any mods that are known to cause this?
sly moss
what mods do you have installed/how many?
sly moss
alright
digital elbow
BepInExPack by bbepis
R2API by tristanmcpherson
Sniper by Rein
EmptyChestsBeGone by TheRealElysium
ItemStatsMod by ontrigger
ShareSuite by FunkFrog-and-Sipondo
BetterUI by XoXFaby
NoBossNoWait by mistername
ScannerPlusOne by MagnusMagnuson
ShrineOfDio by MagnusMagnuson
Pingprovements by pixeldesu
LunarCoinShareOnPickup by dan8991iel
FasterScrapper by jenwalter
BanditReloaded by Moffein
BazaarExpand by NetherCrowCSOLYOO
Enforcer by EnforcerGang
StartingItemsGUI by Phedg1Studios
ItemBlacklister by RyanPallesen
BossItemDrop by sheen
Betterdrone by lalgendedeQubec
BazaarPrinter by MagnusMagnuson
I'm thinking maybe Betterdrone? Its the only one I can see that interferes with stats but theres also no comments that I can see on the thunderstone website that i can check.
sly moss
hmm, i dont know, my only guess is shrine of dio
since SOD reduces max health when you use the shrine, but i dont think its that extreme
digital elbow
Ohhhhhhh
Wait I was hacking the SOD, so it was constantly proccing. Is this the likely cause?
sly moss
oh probably
digital elbow
Where does it say it costs max health?
sly moss
hm, i thought it did, but i guess it doesnt
digital elbow
Oh wait a fucking minute, hahahaha
We were in the artifact of glass zone
We're a bunch of goobers
sly moss
oh lol
digital elbow
One of our experienced players came in and told us XD
Thanks for the help though!
Related question
FallenFriends says its deprecated, is their an alternative?
valid briar
Can i Mod the new map out still play online with friends
wise ferry
If they have the same mods
muted compass
Isnt there an unmodded client mod
mossy lagoon
that just changes build id
clients can use client-side mods like betterui and hosts can use host-side mods like sharesuite but in most cases you'll both need the same mods
muted compass
Huh
jade prairie
we
crystal pecan
does anyone know the origin story of neon and his personal vc?
@marble shale meme
craggy sage
@serene lance go to the spawn room after defeating mythrix
viscid loom
Looking for help to install modmanager, any youtube videos that could help me out?
wise ferry
@viscid loom r2modman?
inner palm
all you need to do is go to thunderstore.io, click r2modman, download it, and run the program that it downloads to finish the installation @viscid loom
serene lance
Thank you @craggy sage
woven wasp
question, do mods work in multiplayer? is there a certain mod we both need or do we both just need to have identical mod lists?
when i've tried before, it always said something about a version mismatch even if the modlists were the same
magic birch
are you just downloading identical lists or using profiles with r2?
magic birch
you shouldn't get mismatches using profiles
woven wasp
so if changes have been made then idk
magic birch
i was gonna say, try it now a days and you should be fine
woven wasp
okay
magic birch
but yes, most mods needs both players to have them outside of some quality of life/hosting mods
and to host non-modded players in that situation you need the mod unmoddedversion
dire ibex
Hey, does anyone know if there's a mod that removes the turret limit on engineer? I've been trying to find one and couldn't.
I want to make an ARMY
rare night
Technically Skills++ allows you to level up his special, each additional level gives you an extra sentry
inner palm
Has anyone here experienced issues with Skills++ and artifact of metamorphosis?
I had it set to give a skill point every 5 levels, went to bulwarks ambry for metamorphosis and got switched from commando to acrid - the weird thing is,
From then on whenever i started a new stage I recieved an undeserved fresh skill point for every 5 levels i already had. Same happened again when i got resurrected by dio's
gray mulch
Skills++ doesn't have a great track record on mod interop
Grab your log and head to tech support on modding discord, maybe its an easy fix
inner palm
👌
wide compass
As much as I love this mithrix mod
I wanna edit it so that I can make him in my own image
..how do I access a mod file?
wide compass
Oh wait the modman thing literally lets me in
Pog
Now it's MINE
..not rlly. But now I can edit him to do whatever
mossy lagoon
modman?
wide compass
The app that lets you get mods off of the thunder store
wide compass
I can open up the mod itself
...fuck. It's all nulls
It's cuz I don't have an app that understands dll
sly moss
dnspy
mossy lagoon
ye
wide compass
Does that let me read .dll files?
wide compass
Oh yeah. Where do I actually download this thing? I have trouble finding the download button on github
gray mulch
Releases
gray mulch
wide compass
But where's the download button? It just shows me a couple things and nothing else
gray mulch
wide compass
Oh, here it is.
gray mulch
Or the one above if you are on a 32 bit machine somehow
Note that editing mod .dlls requires you to be able to write code, and also that 9/10 times you will not be able to do multiplayer without the original.
wide compass
Right. I know a bit about coding and can probably edit a few things that I wanna change around
Now. Where do I put this file?
gray mulch
Its a zip. Extract to a folder and run the exe.
gray mulch
?
gray mulch
Did you click the wrong one? dnspy-netcore-win64.zip in releases.
wide compass
I may have.
gray mulch
Don't do that
wide compass
Oh yeah I totally did. Rip, one sec
BRUH WHY
The DLL file doesn't even have the stuff IN IT
Nor do any of the other files
..tf did he do
Turn off to the max
gray mulch
I assure you the dll file has everything in it lol...
gray mulch
Yes thats what mods are.
wide compass
Hm. I'm used to mods that actually have variables and things you can edit
sly moss
uhhhhh
gray mulch
gray mulch
Yes thats the assemblyinfo file
gray mulch
gray mulch
wide compass
o
sly moss
lol
wide compass
That's a bruh moment on my part
gray mulch
Dem triangles man, they get me every time.
wide compass
It's been months since I ever touched a software like this hush
gray mulch
wide compass
Wtf are these controls
Backspace doesn't delete
gray mulch
dnspy is mostly designed for viewing. It has editing abilities, but you need to right click and hit edit. It will not always work, there are a lot of factors that play in there. But this is the most direct way to make edits.
gray mulch
dnspy is decompiling the compiled code on the fly, which is why it isn't just a raw text editor.
wide compass
Weird... so what do you use to write the code then
dense trout
Visual Studio (not code), and Rider are commonly used programs
Some heretics use Unity
wide compass
Why not VsCode?
gray mulch
Because its C#, and visual studio is pretty much designed for the sole purpose of writing C#.
wide compass
And lua... and a couple others. But ight
It's weird that VsCode doesn't have a dll plugin though
gray mulch
dlls are compiled code. Its a binary file. You can't just read it and edit it. You need to decompile and then recompile. Thats not what VS code is for.
sly moss
this is how my modding process looks
mossy lagoon
When acrid gets sword is it in his mouth
@muted compass yes
sly moss
good
muted compass
Perfection
mossy lagoon
the item displays for aetherium are SSS tier
muted compass
Spinning swords on nailgun
And the sword just makes nailgun even stronger in giving it range at full health lol
reef yoke
When acrid gets sword is it in his mouth
@muted compass actually that reminds me of Zacian
muted compass
No its sif
reef yoke
doggo with sword in its mouth
muted compass
S i f
reef yoke
what is sif
muted compass
Dark souls
mossy lagoon
the dev made a sif reference in the modding discord before blaster sword was even released lol
muted compass
Perfect
ripe cove
wait i have a question
so i found out ROR Starstorm was being ported to 2
is there a discord for it/build?
mossy lagoon
yeah there's a discord
I can't post in here but join the modding discord in pins, the ss2 discord is in the community projects channel
jade prairie
It's not being ported. It is being remade
wise ferry
the question is the same regardless
stable hemlock
aight I wanna make a skin for either Rex, Captain or Commando. Which character, and what should I make?
muted compass
Where do I choose all of the above
stable hemlock
i can only make one at a time @muted compass
muted compass
Everything
acoustic raft
make one for rex
chilly glen
Plant
wise ferry
ok
snow crypt
how in gods name do i make a modded lobby that unmodded clients can join?
sly moss
1: dont install anything that adds new content (it wont work)
2: use UnmoddedVersions
snow crypt
well that's crap
gray mulch
I mean how do you expect the clients to get the new content XD
north turtle
i downloaded some mods and now i cant see when i change skills unless i switch back and forth from one to another
any ideas?
nimble field
some are buggy like that
gray mulch
Check lemurian, mithrix, and reaver/chimera
Maybe the beetle too idk
Turn em off one at a time til you find which one causes, then let the author know by pinging them in modding discord in tech support.
north turtle
ok thanks
mossy lagoon
use r2modman
and yes some mods have bugs
in terms of game breaking, if you use 2 character mods that happen to use the example survivor base it will not recognize your profile
that's the most common one but I think most of the mods with that issue have been fixed
gray mulch
You mean two different character mods that use the template, and never bothered to change the dang name XD
mossy lagoon
lol yeah that
pseudo sierra
breadguy i got r2modman and now what
because last time i checked there were a few mods that were required for things to work
wise ferry
just install whatever you want to use
r2modman will deal with the rest
and if it doesn't start with mods then just @ me
you can install all the mods you'd like through r2modman directly
pseudo sierra
ok i did that and its fricken awsome god ive wanted this for so long
thank you
oh also is there a way to continue a risk run without doing the final boss
pseudo sierra
i asked cause i used the teleporter and now im fighitng the boss as goku i love this game but im able to continue the run after i beat him right
mossy lagoon
means you won though and you can just go again hehe
gray mulch
inb4 dead to boss
mossy lagoon
losing a good run always feels bad though, also np
LOL
there's a dedicated modding server pinned in this chat also btw
digital elbow
The XML files when I open them in notepad+ are just one massive horizontal line
How do I get them into an actual readable format?
pseudo sierra
how does multiplayer work on modded, do the other players need the same mods as me?
hardy zephyr
depends on what mods you have
mossy lagoon
yes most of the time everyone will need the mods
it's very easy to export and import a profile using r2modman
pseudo sierra
oh really? how would i do that
mossy lagoon
in settings click export as code, then send the code to your whoever you want to play with and they can click import on the profile page
eternal sundial
pseudo sierra
dude i just gamed for like 4 hours with my friend
pseudo sierra
oh also is there a mod that just buffs the crap out of commando, ive been searching for 10 minutes didnt know you guys had recos
mossy lagoon
honporebalance
all the other features are configurable if you don't want em
@pseudo sierra
pseudo sierra
oh
so i can edit chartacter stats?
because im using a doom skin and i want to make him insane
mossy lagoon
no you can't edit the character stats I just mean that the mod comes with a bunch of features that you can configure off if you just want the commando buffs
pseudo sierra
oh ok so i need to go into config files
well im not gonna do that i might break something but thank you
mossy lagoon
then you can just delete the config to reset it
inner palm
The way honporebalance works is super easy. Use modmans config editor, the option descriptions tell you what the vanilla options are and how to set them
lusty oracle
I wanna mod the game
dense trout
Well, on thunderstore you can both find the links to resources and a modding discord where we will try to answer whatever question you have
lusty oracle
What was that mod that would let you play as any enemy?
sly moss
debugtoolkit
lusty oracle
@sly moss does many persons use r2modman
wise ferry
only a couple
lusty oracle
last time i shoved in enforcer mod i could not use skins.
This is definitely a bug.
nimble field
not a modman bug, a mod specific bug
lusty oracle
oh fuck. also i ain't using modman rn
lusty oracle
8 gb
Why is the enforcer mod doing this.
first it prevents use of skins and also the artifact of glass freaks out hard.
also the enforcer class is broken
lusty oracle
what mod do you use?
mossy lagoon
enforcer
lusty oracle
there's multiple
mossy lagoon
by enforcergang
lusty oracle
this one i am havin trouble with
mossy lagoon
is there?
lusty oracle
yes
he has infinite cooldowns and his primary wont do shit other than blast my ears to smithereens.
mossy lagoon
where did you get it lol
acoustic raft
enforcer mod works very well generally
lusty oracle
thunderstore
nimble field
if you delete it, does everything work correctly?
lusty oracle
yes
nimble field
cool
mossy lagoon
whats the author name
lusty oracle
didnt notice
sly moss
why was i pinged about r2modman
mossy lagoon
https://thunderstore.io/package/EnforcerGang/Enforcer/ this is the only one I know about
in fact it's the only one that comes up when I search enforcer on TS
mossy lagoon
you have r2api right
nimble field
might be some compatibility issue
lusty oracle
does it conflict with debugtoolkit
mossy lagoon
no
lusty oracle
its the only 2 mods i have on atm
lusty oracle
yes
jade prairie
post log
mossy lagoon
the whole thing
lusty oracle
How?!
mossy lagoon
send logoutput.log from your bepinex folder
lusty oracle
o
mossy lagoon
or just ctrl+a, ctrl+c your bepinex console
lusty oracle
nimble field
I think you could get some help on the ror2 modding server, maybe you can ping the mod's creator with the log
mossy lagoon
I just want to see if it's something like r2api getting fucked by an antivirus
he said he had r2api but it's acting like he doesnt
folder probably empty
lusty oracle
gray mulch
Missing monomod patch of r2api.
How did you install? manually?
If you used a mod manager, lemme know which so I can have harb beat it with his deletion bat. If you did it manually, you didn't install the second folder in r2api.
lusty oracle
what folder?
dense trout
Do you have a bepinex/monomod folder?
lusty oracle
i have bepinex
r2api is inside of it inside of ror2 directory
and yes i got monomod
dense trout
mossy lagoon
delete those green ones and install r2modman, it'll be easier for ya
