when i play REX my intent is to face tank bosses without much hassle to them draining my hp
#prismatic-trials
vapid wharf
Damage has always been #1 for me, but then again I haven't played rex properly
patent pasture
REX is a tough one to use since 1 slip up can mean your death.
vapid wharf
As loader as far as healing goes, all you need is a slug, and just fly off every so often to get your health back
patent pasture
but done correctly you can pretty much sit in from of some enemies and just soak the damage
vapid wharf
Yeah lotus is crazy
patent pasture
if you have 2-3 AP as REX, you can face tank the glacial templars in stage 1
but thats a BIG if
vapid wharf
Yeah the most tier 1s I found stage one was 2, but I ended up dying to the templar anyways
patent pasture
the frustration with them is their aggro, either they ignore you the whole time or walk halfway across the map just to gun you down.
also another thing i found out the wood shrine doesn't protect you from their gattling shots, you have to hide behind the spikes in the ground
vapid wharf
Yeah the run where I got 6 mins, I killed the blazing probes before even starting the teleporter. The blazing is pretty much all the damage you take during the fight, and because I had to get the newt altar, I had a bit of opportunity to take them out anyways
patent pasture
If i grabbed the newt alter with my route, its more than likely i will have 10 probes to contend with and not 6.
but its down to how optimal i can make it
vapid wharf
What crystals do you take out?
patent pasture
i'll more than likely give it a go later
it was originally the 3 on the ground but one behind the centre pillar was hard to snipe so it changed ot the one closest to the tele.
so its first one by the pillar, 2nd one by the wall on the left out of the tunnel and 3rd by the wood shrine and tele
you can snipe the one behind the centre pillar to speed it up but its blocked by so much stuff its almost not worth the shot
vapid wharf
Yeah the 3 on the ground are the ones I go for. Having range is probably pretty nice though since you can go directly to the tp and take them out from anywhere
patent pasture
the one behind centre pillar is blocked by like 2 spikes and the leftover wreckage. also your missile drones can fly in front of you to interrupt abilities
so i swapped ot the one by the wood shrine
using the jump pad and REX's boop ability makes him fly to it easily
vapid wharf
Yes rex' utility is very fun
I didn't know there was a crystal next to the wood shrine
patent pasture
its not directly next to it but its close by
just got to be careful not to aggro the glacial templar if he isn't already
patent pasture
you can still go point blank and shoot it without him spotting but if he's off that giant container then he's coming for you
vapid wharf
Yeah that templar can really screw you over
Sometimes he's already aggro when you start the tp and other times he never even shows up
patent pasture
I can handle them but they do too much damage and waste time.
what also annoys me is them AND the probes can stay firing on you for up to 10 seconds which my DPS cannot compete with
vapid wharf
Yeah having the imps, probes, and templar on you all at once is a guaranteed death lol
patent pasture
like moments where i die and even in the post-game credits they're still firing
when the imps come in its down to if i can boop them or not in order to win.
vapid wharf
Sometimes you'll hide behind a spike and they just won't stop firing for no reason
Templar are horrid because as loader, I have to be right next to it to even start hitting it
patent pasture
I'll more than likely give the run another shot with the lunar route in mind but for now its a break
vapid wharf
Yeah the lunar route is great for loader because the beetle queens line up in a way that I can kill them both in one charge
patent pasture
it'll be interesting as REX just cause of lower hp means quicker healing as well as dealing with tians faster
titans*
vapid wharf
Yeah one shot protection will be much easier accessible
I suppose because time stops during the cell events, if you wanted the true sweat run, you could get all guillotine and goat hoof from the vents
patent pasture
you could but you woudl have ot take on the entire gauntlet without dying
vapid wharf
And beat stage 2 really quick
Unless the generation changes again after doing the event
That's true but I assume the enemis spawned during the event are also predetermined and if they're just lemurians or something it's definitely pheasable
If it's vultures you're fucked, but there's a chance it's not
patent pasture
remember each one killed also spawns wisps
patent pasture
i'll still try it with and without void/glass to improve the times
vapid wharf
Imagine this trial with spite lol
patent pasture
I find it funny looking at my rank and seeing everyone as mercenaries, my mind just looks and thinks "are you crazy?"
vapid wharf
Any trial with honor is instantly 3x as hard
Yeah it's weird how few loaders there are
patent pasture
though i wonder whta people think when they see my rank and notice its a REX
vapid wharf
I thought upon revealing the leaderboard, there would be nothing but loaders, but it was rather the opposite
patent pasture
i was expecting a couple of REXs to be on there but nope
patent pasture
honor doesnt bother me too much, its the one which makes items drop by monsters
relying on that is just a no
vapid wharf
Yeah that's too much rng
Imagine sacrifice without command
Finish the boss on stage one
And you get a lepton daisy
patent pasture
it would still be doable since some items a pre-determined
slender delta
im gonna have to wait for the next one, i just wanted to get my vampiric unlocked and this trial is pretty much impossible for me
patent pasture
the tele item would be the same as well as lunar bazaar items
also void if you go through it
vapid wharf
Is there a gold portal anywhere? Starting stage 2 with aureleonite lol
cyan stratus
so has anyone gotten ethereal yet
tough belfry
i gave up i can't even get to the farming part
digital flame
Anyone have any tips for doing it to get the Merc ability
tough belfry
tip 1: don't
digital flame
I tried that tip a few days ago with the last trial
indigo snow
If only Sacrifice was either seeded or removed from trials
It would be more bearable
And actually viable to run
zenith plinth
ah yes, the trial of trying to not get 1 shot
indigo snow
It's just that you shouldn't have to plan a 20 minute route for a 2 stage speedrun mode because of Sacrifice rng
tough belfry
it's not entirely because of sacrifice though
the stage 1 boss is really bad for not having items
indigo snow
The rest is difficult but Sacrifice is what makes it unfun imo just hoping for items instead of knowing you'll at least have some to work with
tough belfry
i'd much prefer it to be seeded rather than removed completely
soft acorn
just wait till we get a run with sacrifice but no command
tho lowkey i kinda like that they turned PT from just a regular speedrun to somewhat of a skill test
tough belfry
it tests your flaming pile of shit skills
soft acorn
sacrifice is BS but most of the other difficulty artifacts make it fun
well honour and swarm would, if they worked propperly with drops and xp
slender delta
so far this pt has tested nothing but my patience
slim lintel
Chaos, Command, Dissonance, Enigma, Honor, Swarms, and maybe Kin should be the only artifacts it can pick from. All the other ones are either completely pointless or break everything. Sacrifice could be ok if it gets buffed for early game and/or is seeded
slim lintel
I'd run uninstall% before I do that shit, also thats completely unnecessary
slender delta
considering my current success rate of trying anything else
soft acorn
vengence and frailty also fun
slender delta
im gonna keep doing this
soft acorn
get rex and abuse the R to snipe the 2 AWUs ezy red ezy game
slim lintel
Vengeance is completely pointless you're never going to spend 10+ minutes in a trial unless shit is completely screwed up, frailty is also dumb and just ruins crystal jumping for absolutely no reason
soft acorn
it doesent ruit it, it means you gotta watch your HP when you jump
surreal osprey
i was suprised to find out that the shield from the shield generator also ruin the challenge
slender delta
i gotta ask how you managed to get the awu to spawn without getting 1 shot by 7 solus probes
hazy karma
is this a good trial for merc challenge?
slender delta
i think this is just a bad trial in general
verbal quiver
fair and balanced
slender delta
yeah
i think im done with attempting this, ill try again another time when i dont get 1 shot repeatedly
zenith plinth
I wanted to ask yeah could anybhody throw me a video of doing this trial, I'm not like a sore loser or anything just
I'm having so much trouble.
slender delta
its possible, its just very rng based because of sacrifice
zenith plinth
I tried camping for items get overun , I tried rex, when 6 balls spawn on me I instantly die, whoever I pick I instantly die when 6 balls spawn on me
zenith plinth
I'll try for a lil bit I guess I may have to wait too
tough belfry
the spawns are always at the same time
just be near a turret or somewhere you can move away when they spawn
keen grove
(Tryna unlock scythe) is the current prismatic trial an easier or harder one?
Apparently it's a difficult according to yen, I'm wait for next one
cloud moon
The current prismatic trial is quite brutal.
keen grove
Thanks
versed oasis
is it just me or does this trial just gank me with an elite templar no matter what I do
spent the last half hour trying to not die and nothing is working
oh god its gonna be the same for the next 30 hours
digital flame
Are the trials the same across all consoles?
drifting heron
i dont think so
ornate crest
Is there an optimal way to clean the trial? I wanna unlock the scythe but I took 19 mins kitting with the Huntress to complete THE FIRST MAP
spice skiff
Sometimes you just have to wait for an easier one
Unlocking scythe is 100% worth doing though
slim lintel
the best way to clean the trial is a lot of soap and water with a sponge, really froth that soap up and give it a good deep scrubbing
modern pulsar
the current trial is insane
ornate crest
I'm turning on the 2nd teleporter at minute 4 with the Loader but im getting one shoted anyways I don't know how to do it better
rancid sparrow
i'm getting very close to winning with engineer taking 1 repulsion armor plate, rest fungus, and spawning the solus boss to get a red item
just defend for a while at a gunner turret with your 2 turrets to get a few items
hidden perch
this is some james bond shit
im gonna try acrid and see if epidemic takes care of these bastards
nope, die too fast to actually try
who's idea was this???
mental pecan
is it just me or is the current trial A LIVING HELL?!
timid frigate
yeah i really hope they tone this down
i mean i cant imagine how it is for people who havent unlcoked scythe
clever mountain
and this trial was during the free weekend lel
rose hazel
Imagine just picking up the game and this is the trial you are thrown into... Has anyone actually completed the trial?
kind trellis
I miss prismatic trials pre update
cyan stratus
just do my 20 minute route if you want the unlock
it's easy if you're ok with getting hit
slim lintel
lmao you're right, trials are completely screwed up for the free weekend its so perfect
hidden perch
i've tried the trials with EVERY survivor (including bandit) and died every time
poison acrid or shield engi is your best bet but even then its still hard
cyan stratus
oh lmao it's free weekend perfect
hidden perch
i haven't seen how the carbonizer turrets work yet.
cyan stratus
i think without sacrifice this trial would be perfect
hidden perch
How about no artifacts period
cyan stratus
no
hidden perch
perish
cyan stratus
artifacts make it interesting
have u ever ran 50 trials in a row that are basically the same thing over and over
slim lintel
I think artifacts are ok, I just think a fair few of them need to never show up, as I said earlier
Chaos, Command, Dissonance, Enigma, Honor, Swarms, and maybe Kin should be the only artifacts it can pick from. All the other ones are either completely pointless or break everything. Sacrifice could be ok if it gets buffed for early game and/or is seeded
cyan stratus
what
literally everything except sacrifice and metamorphosis is fine
i'd love to try to get merc ethereal on some trial like this except there are actually chests
anything that makes me break out a text file and write down spawn times is a plus in my book
i will always remember 3:02 what a nightmare
soft acorn
If they fix honour and swarm it'd be ok, but rn these 2 combined with sacrifice screw with items spawn rates too much. If seeded, sacrifice would be fine for pt too imo
cyan stratus
if it was seeded, it would be one of the 100 seeds where i got 2 drops in 8min
slim lintel
bruh no way frailty is good for trials
slim lintel
true but if you ever felt like playing a non broken af char it completely ruins them
brave jay
has anyone even passed the trial yet?
I tried rushing the portal, died. Tried going slow, died. Anything I did, I died. I just don't see a way to beat it.
soft acorn
arti might be useful, u should be happy @slim lintel
slim lintel
arti is fubar
cyan stratus
you can beat it pretty easily by not dying
soft acorn
idk you never know what items/mechanics changes they will add
Arti's freeze is pretty good vs HoM
I can deffo see freezing a few lems in a row and flaming them
slim lintel
until they let her sprint through her M1's again she's completely dead to me
soft acorn
add that to the #ror2-feedback-and-ideas
slim lintel
lolno
craggy heath
Wait how often do prismatic trials change seeds
timid frigate
soft acorn
bdw the new M2 of acrid woud be pretty good for bosses if it didnt suck v crystals so baddly, u tried it out yet?
safe musk
activate teleport
horde of lasers
glass flame
My friend just cleared it. He used Acrid and used the blood shrine to get money for the missile drones and then line of sighted everything letting poison do the work. He farmed the new repulsion armor to counter the probes, got the woodland sprite equipment for healing since stage 2 doesn't have a healing shrine. He also stacked guillotines since everything is elite.
rancid sparrow
was kinda easy with engineer just defend and farm some items and spawn the solus boss asap so he has like 5k hp, and get nkhuna from him
glass flame
I tried farming with engineer. Odd thing happened though. My items didn't apply to my turrets
clever mountain
even after replacing them?
glass flame
Yeah, think it might have just dicked me over because it only happened the one time and trying again I didn't encounter the issue
gentle rain
Is this even possible?
rancid sparrow
turrets dont gain items until you place them down
you gotta keep replacing them when you get items
At the very start use the health shrine, then kill the egg next to it to heal and use the shrine again, make sure to kill eggs as you go to spawn solus boss to get n'khunas. Just defend at a gunner turret until you get 1 repulsion armor plate (makes the laser beams tickle) and 1-2 fungus. Take guillotine for green items. Spawn the solus boss and get n'khunas, and get preon accumulator as your equipment item to kill the boss.
if you get preon quickly you can use it to kill the solus boss too.. you don't even have to rush anything, my run took 20 minutes but I was so powerful at the end it was ridiculous, had like 12 fungus and just stood next to the turrets and everything died
glass flame
I did a 10 minute run as Acrid with 3 armor plates and 2 guillotines
Hiding in the shipping container on stage 2 and poisoning everything is a very safe strat
cyan stratus
dont hug the wall you'll get wrecked by an imp
fading hill
sick stratus
Solus boss is the one from breaking eggs right?
fading hill
Yep
sick stratus
How come you get items?? I have been fighting waves and waves of enemies and no drops
royal bane
well looks like I'm not unlocking the prismatic trial achievement today
stone ermine
tfw I still haven't gotten scythe cuz i would always play with my brothers who had it
guess it'll have to wait
solemn fiber
im wondering when the trial will be only about a minute long when the 1st stage is Sky Meadow
wary token
this trial is just not fun
sick stratus
I almost got it with the Engineer strat. Two Stone guardians on Rallypoint FeelsBadMan
jaunty wing
I nearly got it with huntress ... After i finished teleport event i activated the teleporter at the last stage to GET OVER IT, i got sniped by a golem ...
Had i survived 1 more second, i would have gotten it, the teleporting amination even started but no, the game said no
silent cargo
I literally sought out the discord server after trying this trial, failing repeatedly, and wondering if they're all this hard...
night mason
so this Trial is just anti fun? wished i completet the last one 
this eyes just oblitarate me wtf
orchid garden
Anyone know more about artifact of chaos?
What happens if u proc things like ukulele? AtG?
Will those target players too? Or only hit players IF they get in the way?
Also how about missile launcher? Fireworks?
tough belfry
only if you're in the way
arctic flint
i almost beat it, choked on boss stage 2
formal sonnet
I need to unlock the trials item but how on earth do i beat this thing, the solus probes seem to just kill me no matter what. Other enemies seem easy enough
ornate mural
whats the best items to get the 100% with the mercenary
cyan stratus
guillotine, kjaro, missile, 1 brooch, crit glasses, preon for 1st, capacitor
if you dont get before 8:30 reset
summer trout
so uhh
is every trial this masochistic or is this an outlier?
also any quick tips for a build just complete the trial without much hassle for the scythe unlock?
solemn eagle
ornate mural
when does the trial end
vale spruce
thats what id like to know
night mason
10 hours or something is statet ingame
slim lintel
this is such a great trial for all the new players to experience from the sale/free weekend def gonna make trials super popular
slender delta
worth it
get at least 1 repulsion plate, stack fungus like crazy and then go for on hit damage and make sure you get N'Kuhana's
native jackal
are the trials not randomized?
slender delta
the trial stages are not
but the artifact is command this week
so items are choosable
along with a few others that make this trial RIDICULOUSLY hard
native jackal
I mean like the devs don't choose which trial goes out every week, they just generate a seed
slender delta
it changes everything every 3 days i believe, new stages, new artifacts
native jackal
yeah this trial is pretty difficult
slender delta
i believe it is done randomly yeah
native jackal
Literally the first one I've ever done and I get this one lmfao
zenith plinth
g
lyric swan
how do i actually beat these? do i need to be searching around for the crystals or whatever or go straight for the teleporter?
slender delta
destroy 3 crystals, activate teleporter, repeat once more
lyric swan
are there three crystals in every stage?
slender delta
more than 3 usually
lyric swan
ah ok so I do have to break three before moving on. Thanks!
slender delta
no worries, good luck
native jackal
Acrid does seem like a good option for this trial
tough belfry
and merc 
native jackal
nah I did fine on Acrid
Didn't win because I messed around too much
But once you get one plate thing you're set for a good while
slender delta
if you can make it work then give it a shot but i think engi is the best choice personally
native jackal
I find that his turrets didn't kill things fast enough for me
Got bodied every time
viscid hornet
ive been trying the mercenary with out getting hit thing and it seems impossible for this trial
tough belfry
try harder
zenith plinth
Daily reminder mini mushrums need to be removed
misty zealot
how do you even get hit by one
slim lintel
^ idk how the hell y'all getting destroyed by mini mush's so much
forest shell
this trial is completely impossible
pliant frigate
Hello, where is the trial pls ?
slim lintel
trials have been cancelled
tall wigeon
how the hell do you get past the second stage on the current prismatic
i just need to grind for equipment don't I
i could get preon on stage 2
idk how fast that would be compared to a capacitor
serene trench
idk maybe I just suck but it seems like the prismatic trial is bonkers difficult, or at least the teleporter boss anyway. I've also never done trials before so that's definitely part of it
serene trench
yeah
ive been playing loader and just trying to avoid enemys and rush the tele after breaking the time thingys but that hasn't been working well at all
serene trench
ooooooh yeah thats good
I just cannot for the life of me get aways from all the lazers though
the only problem with rex is that he doesn't have any mobility, and I feel like it's a lot easer to just run away from everything then actually try and kill stuff
tough belfry
if you get repulsion armor plate you're fine
tall wigeon
with 1 repulsion armour and a bunch of them in the R you can spam your auto while staying still and not die
i also hide in the cave beneath the tele to only get 1 laser on me
serene trench
thats if I can get an item to drop though
tough belfry
yeah just farm a bit before activating tele
serene trench
ha ill try but the clay gunner guy will probably kill me real quick lmao i suck
serene trench
ehh i could try rex and use his M1 and maybe M2 not sure if that ill work but ill try
drifting tusk
So has anyone been able to 100% this seed with merc yet?
tall wigeon
i believe it is literally impossible
serene trench
I tried the cave thing and at first it went well. I got the first time crystal ease and the second one I had to go out of the cave for but i got it without any problems. Until i turned around and there were 2 probes right at the entrance to the cave and I died real fast
drifting tusk
I was able to get 3 crystals without taking damage. But once it comes to the teleporter gg
Apparently Devs are looking into increasing the drop chance for the artifact that makes items drop from mobs
drifting tusk
Thats what ive been told in the Feedback-discussion channel
serene trench
yeah
drifting tusk
like 1/5 chance
serene trench
what is it now?
serene trench
oh i think it's 8 items per 100 enemies
they can't make the drop rate too good though cause then people get more items per stage
drifting tusk
Approximate drop chances for an average game of 1-4 players, from stage 1-8 over 60 minutes:
6-30% for Beetle, Lesser Wisp, Jellyfish, Lemurian
13-37% for Hermit Crab, Alloy Vulture, Imp
16-40% for Beetle Guard, Bighorn Bison, Stone Golem, Brass Contraption
23-47% for Elder Lemurian, Clay Templar
27-51% for Greater Wisp
35-60% for Beetle Queen, Clay Dunestrider, Stone Titan, Wandering Vagrant, Imp Overlord, Magma Worm, Solus Control Unit
48-73% for Overloading Worm
this is from the wiki. It works way different than what I thought
jade holly
im pretty sure thats for normal mobs
there it is thats exactly what i was about to go look up
drifting tusk
It also states that enemies that are prespawned have a minus -8%
jade holly
so the reports that items drop more late game are just based on these spawns
drifting tusk
yep
the more mob, the more chances
there is also a function that increases chances with difficulty i think
here it is: The drop chance is equal to 0.05 * Log2(exp / difficultyCoeff + 1)
this function is the artifact
anywho. Just wanted to make sure that I was terrible at prismatic trials
cyan stratus
it's not impossible. i have a 20 minute route with taking damage 3 times, and could do it hitless if item rng wasnt so trash
no seed is impossible
quiet hawk
I had decent luck with loader last night. Gonna try it again tonight. Black hole equipment with guillotine, armor plates, maybe will-o-wisp too. Havent tried it yet with will
slim lintel
seed is changing in like 4-5 hours
stone ermine
Awesome
royal bane
If trials are going to be like this in the future they may as well tie the item unlock to a red and not harvesters scythe
Or better yet just remove the item unlock altogether so people who don't want to deal with them don't have to and people who like their challenges can keep it
fiery tree
I hate this weeks trial
so bullshit
And pardon my language there, but it really hurts me inside and outside when I begin bashing my wrists in on the edge of my desk because of dying to some random BS
tough belfry
you play ror2 and complain about dying to random bs?
slim lintel
If trials are going to be like this in the future they may as well tie the item unlock to a red and not harvesters scythe
Or better yet just remove the item unlock altogether so people who don't want to deal with them don't have to and people who like their challenges can keep it
How fucking DARE a CHALLENGE be challenging in the slightest
make harvesters scythe unlock after clicking m1 with commando 10 times
inland sequoia
as much as i love the artifact inclusion into this and appreciate the challenge the whole sacrifice into a horde of many probes is a bit frustrating
you pretty much have to slap the portal and run like hell
prime snow
i really dont want to sound condescending, but unless youre trying to ethereal this prismatic, i dont know how people are unable to at least clear it
you wanna go either really fast or take it really slow
soft acorn
add a challenge to complete AAR
B)
tho tbh im lowkey excited to see what they give us for top 10% in PT
prime snow
inb4 minecraft cape type thing
thatd turn prismatic into an unhealthy addiction for me
jade holly
are the enemies that drop items predetermined
cyan stratus
yeah i tried running rex on this to see if it's actually that bad. it's really easy as rex
your aoe grab nukes 1st boss, and you can preon the titans and spam them from high ground
slim lintel
bro rex is so hard to play all your attacks take away HP and makes the gameplay a very challenging
inland sequoia
tbh the biggest problem im having is the templars
sometimes the one up top drops down and ends up interrupting the fight
the one at the bottom i just ignore
hybrid igloo
trying to get back into this game after losing all my progress went and tried the trial and got eaten alive by literally everything
jade holly
trying to go engineer and stack fungus and abuse the green shrines
do the same mobs drop the same items every time?
tough belfry
no
soft acorn
who are you and what did you do to @slim lintel he used to be a rex bro
lowkey alt M2 rex is ezy mode for this tiral
so is engi with shield
royal bane
"How fucking DARE a CHALLENGE be challenging in the slightest" Not for a green item. The challenge itself is harder than a good chunk of item unlock challenges and forces you to play in it's terms where the majority of challenges let players tailor the experience to certain degrees like swapping difficulty or as of now swapping artifacts in and out. And, again, all for a green item
dusk meadow
omg cabbage is in this discord
is the trial still super hard?
or has the seed changed
tough belfry
seed changes in 2 or 3 hours? i think
dusk meadow
is it still Siren's Call with super RNG drop rates?
just checked, it is
the clay templar keeps me from getting anything that looks like a run going
royal bane
three hours and three minutes
dusk meadow
i love myself a good challenge but I feel this one is a bit too much
royal bane
I'm regretting not getting harvester's scythe before artifacts were added
dusk meadow
my best run was farming items at the bottom and getting 3 drops
I had it before but if you really want it you could just get the unlock by code but let the achievement locked so that you still have that to look forward too
my friend did that since he wanted to do a solo commando run while picking items and he needed the scythe for a crit build
royal bane
maybe, I just feel like if artifact prismatics are how they are gonna do things going forward then harvester scythe unlock might need to be tweaked because unless new players are pumping in several hours a day into RoR2 then getting scythe is going to take a while depending on what artifacts get rolled
dusk meadow
I feel like the scythe is probably one of the best green items, as long as they fix the RNG on the no chest artifact its all good.
If I could get items a little bit more frequently this run would've been a lot more fun
slim lintel
I was never a "rex bro" I always thought rex ruined trials but I'd do anything to have that back after the disaster they've turned trials in to with the artifact update
quiet hawk
okay maybe its a bit harder with loader than i thought
arctic drum
are artifacts randomized?
zenith plinth
they should lock in a character for each trial IMO, rotate through them in order
it would fuck up some achievements but they are dumb anyway
or just have character specific leaderboards
slim lintel
char specific leaderboards will never happen since hopoo made it very clear he hates us
soft acorn
lol rly?
zenith plinth
"let me be clear..." - hopoobama
slim lintel
the games been out for over a year now and we've been wanting something like char specific leaderboards and a quick restart button since basically the beginning, they dont want to say a damn thing about a restart button and everytime hopoo comes in here to talk he acts like char leaderboards are the worst thing he's ever heard
zenith plinth
even if no char specific leaderboards, at least allow filtering by character when looking at the leaderboards or something
for clout purposes
slim lintel
Like I get a restart button might be a lot of work/wont work but at least say something
in fact they made restarting take even longer when they added the confirmation dialog
cyan stratus
you can make an ahk key to script restart
slim lintel
ok hacker
cyan stratus
i made a script for CE speedrun that loop restarts until there's a blue orb
slim lintel
frikin script kiddie smh
cyan stratus
i ran it for 15 minutes until i got an orb and never used it again
rather smash my head against a wall than run that garbage
soft acorn
this run destroyed speedrunning
spends another 50 hours paying the game regardless
atomic egret
So uh, This latest prismatic trial is...Impossible.
Or at least, i think so.
cyan stratus
maybe if you checked when the enemies spawned you'd see at 3:02 6 probes spawn and know to run
soft acorn
"its easy, you just need to not die" -Cabbage
atomic egret
Run where
slim lintel
just play rex and its easy
atomic egret
It's siren's call. And if they prick me once i stop dead in my tracks
emphasis on dead
slim lintel
ur the only dude that cares about ethereal you should have done it
soft acorn
i already spent 60+ houors doing AAR not doing ethereal
slim lintel
washed up vegetable
cyan stratus
ok but im just 1 person if i spam attempts over and over the chance of me getting lucky is small
but if like 10 people try it one would've gotten it
would've been cool to see someone get ethereal on the hardest trial
soft acorn
6 ppl do PT total lol
slim lintel
6 is a bit of a stretch
cyan stratus
what's the max range of a hermit crab
zenith plinth
can someone @ me if the new seed is ez ethereal
cyan stratus
no
zenith plinth
idk, but they seem to hit me regardless of how far they are vertically on abyssal depths
cyan stratus
be a pioneer and route it yourself
yeah i was just wondering how much razorwire i need to counter a hermit crab
zenith plinth
a while back, someone said that the current seed was the easiest seed to ever get ethereal on, and that anyone can get it in like 20 minutes by following your vid
I spent a few hours on it and didn't get it
it was the one where someone preoned the wisps
slim lintel
just wait for a glass artifact + shaped glass trial
cyan stratus
if you play it yourself and route it you have a much better chance to get it
because you get familiar with the spawns
soft acorn
@pearl eagle u tried eteral?
cyan stratus
like for this trial you know 1:26 has 2 probes, 3:02 has 6, 6:02 has either 6 probes or 2 templars
and if you memorize all the spawns you're able to be in the right position to dodge stuff / time abilities
slim lintel
cat only plays this once in a blue moon anymore
zenith plinth
I will try to route myself, ty for the advice cabbage
cyan stratus
almost every seed is an easy seed once you realize how trials actually work
cyan stratus
you just have to kill 3 crystals and then the boss for 2 stages without getting hit
zenith plinth
yep 🙃
somewhat unrelated, but do you use merc buzzsaw only for the movement trick, or is also better for dealing damage?
cyan stratus
what
soft acorn
only thing i found
cyan stratus
im gonna be completely honest with you, i dont actually play this game so i've never used merc alt abilities
zenith plinth
lmao
cyan stratus
and people who follow what i do because they think i know what i'm doing are deceiving themselves
i just play the trial without getting hit
cyan stratus
i didnt actually play arti on that trial so he didnt bother me too much
but for a different one a golem boost could boost you up the supply crate to preon pretty easily
so i felt your pain through that
soft acorn
lol im on mobile
slim lintel
ew
soft acorn
yh
tough belfry
default merc m2 better for killing crystals fast
tough belfry
idk i don't play base game
zenith plinth
bruh
tough belfry
alt keeps you in the air more so probably better
zenith plinth
are most trials ppl only doing trials?
slim lintel
either play rex or wait like an hour for the next seed that will probably be easier
cyan stratus
i think this is one of the theoretical hardest trials possible
although without command it would be harder
cyan stratus
you can still do it pretty easily as rex
south bramble
yeah i just tried and got murdered
river pier
bobby schmurdered
pearl eagle
@soft acorn I did ethereal back when it came out, the first or second seed I think
quiet hawk
i got through it with loader, armor plates and guillotines, and free preon for bosses on 2nd.
cold orchid
Im really a big pile of garbage for the trials what the hell
cyan stratus
glass, 1 type of elite monster dropping bombs, and wisps 🙃
this will be interesting
slim lintel
shouldnt be too bad with glass
YOO lmao loader sucks with glass
cant punch the crystals they kill you lmao
cyan stratus
heh
slim lintel
nvm if you're going fast enough you can cheese it without getting hit
silk vortex
is it even possible to do mercenaries loadout mission with this trial?
cyan stratus
it took me 10 minutes
silk vortex
i keep getting love tapped by just spawned wisps T-T
lucid bobcat
ceramic daggers
silk vortex
where at?
lucid bobcat
hybrid igloo
did the trials reset?
hybrid igloo
thank goodness
lucid bobcat
is there a reward system for the trials yet?
silk vortex
mercs skill if you do it without being touched
lucid bobcat
but no actual rewards?
cold orchid
no
tough belfry
no
silk vortex
no
royal bane
okay so this one IS actually easy with engineer if you're careful
there's a drone you can get near the starting area and the turrets seem to take out almost everything before getting hit
and the shield just no sells the wisps
lucid bobcat
everything is easy if you're careful
royal bane
yeah but less careful than the previous trial
you just have to stop yourself from overstepping and getting hit by a wisp unawares
I'm glad I finally have harvesters scythe and never have to look at prismatics again
marsh siren
how's this trial if I suck?
silk vortex
pretty trash
marsh siren
lame
I'm sure better than the last still lol
I spent like half an hour trying to stay alive for more than like 5 minutes
silk vortex
you have no health and all the wisps are elite : > )
marsh siren
ah fun, another elite one
royal bane
as someone who also sucks, go engineer and stick to your turrets and shields
keen grove
silk vortex
Im just tryna get mercs skill
keen grove
how often does it update?
marsh siren
congrats on your reward of literally nothing!
lucid bobcat
every 3 days
marsh siren
the leaderboard probably updates immediately
lucid bobcat
Idk man, you're almost a full 30 seconds ahead of the guy in 2nd
royal bane
oof, yeah skok this looks like it'll be difficult unless you are mvp at merc
keen grove
i lost 2 seconds cause i left the first teleporter
lol
bro the 2ndguy is cabbage lol
silk vortex
I mean im not bad but good lord this seems ubsurd
exotic hull
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9cfIZwpg-8 wait 3 minutes and video will be 1080p
tough belfry
generally trials which are easy for ethereal and trials that are fast for merc are the same trials
marsh siren
waiting is for suckers
cyan stratus
i did no routing and went into the 2nd stage blind since it was 2nd try so there's probably better ways to do it
video is processed you can watch now
cyan stratus
probably triple blink
keen grove
ok, thanks
slim lintel
imagine speedrunning trials when theres tele charge
keen grove
this is my first trial lol I wanted to unlock the scythe and I also need mercs alt aswell
slim lintel
so many new people to trials and they're getting introduced to them in this state smh
slim lintel
no I buy it for him as his sugar daddy
cyan stratus
yeah i actually own 43 copies
marsh siren
I'm gonna guess there is a way to reset achievements
cold orchid
why lmao
marsh siren
!
cyan stratus
@slim lintel race me on loader
keen grove
slim lintel
nah, I was gonna do a loader run then I realized I'd have to sit through 2 tele charges per attempt
silk vortex
I was so close!
but I can do it, thank you cabbage for the tip on the spot to hide on the first map
slim lintel
i also couldnt figure out a way to kill the 3rd crystal quickly without killing myself so gave up
arctic flint
😮
arctic flint
lol
slim lintel
because neither cabbage or I have done an actual run yet
arctic flint
this time is somehow gonna get down to 2mins somehow
keen grove
im trying to yoink the highscore while i still can
slim lintel
no, not with the tele bugged
arctic flint
? tele bug?
slim lintel
trials aren't supposed to make you charge the tp, you're supposed to be able to leave as soon as the boss is dead
cyan stratus
2 minutes while it takes 1:30 to charge each tele good one
arctic flint
can u leave right after?
slim lintel
you used to but they screwed something up
arctic flint
killing bosses
slim lintel
with the articfact update
soft acorn
huntress fun tho
dense yarrow
boys I need help, any good merc items for today's trial that prevent me from getting assblasted by wisps every 5 seconds
soft acorn
just grab the preon and thats it
cyan stratus
my guy i posted a video like 3 messages ago
dense yarrow
just grab the preon and thats it
where is it
cold orchid
look up, there is a video
dense yarrow
oh thx
cyan stratus
getting killed by a time crystal says that you died to a time crystal instead of "???" now
also why are we running huntress
cyan stratus
welcome to trials
slim lintel
script kiddie
keen grove
did they fix or?
night mason
lol that seems legit ._. ...
soft acorn
"90sec each tele" yeah legit
keen grove
I was asking if they fixed tele T_T
solemn fiber
did they work on your run?
tough belfry
why would cheaters fix tele
keen grove
I thougt maybe there was a quick tele patch or something idk
slim lintel
1st run didnt even know s2 layout
keen grove
ay
arctic flint
2nd one was cake
soft acorn
yh its just run forward to tele hold m1 m2 and shift both stages
slim lintel
tru
soft acorn
fun trial
slim lintel
just wish they'd fix shit instead of waiting weeks or months to pile everything together
soft acorn
i feel like a lot of the feedback doesent reach them, at least thats the impression i got from some of Ghor's texts earlier
at least the balance feedback, and QA is probbably playing drizzle only
cyan stratus
if we're playing huntress i guess
slim lintel
its gearbox QA I don't think they actually play the game at all
did you get lucky and bait the jelly out somhow? I had a stuck one I had to leave tele for
regal fable
any achievements I can hunt for on this one?
soft acorn
it was in range on my run, hit it with R
cyan stratus
no i had to leave tele for it
soft acorn
you can get eteral pretty ezy @regal fable
cyan stratus
i lost to a pot
soft acorn
I used my m2 to clear the tele before boss spawn, try that if you wanna shave off a couple more sec
cold orchid
the merc alt r any good?
keen grove
probably not
slim lintel
no
soft acorn
its better now but no iframes and limited targets. its better sustain dmg overall
scratch that, i think it still doesent scale with attack speed
copper crag
how the hell am i supposed to take no hp dmg in prismatic trials with all these hit scan wisps
cold orchid
kill them before they shoot
soft acorn
literally video like 15 messages above
solemn fiber
man that cheater really pathetic tbh 😳
solemn fiber
regal fable
Wait you can get the alternate R for mercenary ez?
slim lintel
yeah
regal fable
Swag thanks for telling me
slim lintel
keen grove
how you manipulate the jellyfish to go near you?
slim lintel
exist
keen grove
bruh
cyan stratus
i got barrier skip
slim lintel
wtf
cyan stratus
@slim lintel "ez"
slim lintel
are you using arrow rain/ballista for movement or something idk where I'm losing that many seconds
stable sedge
Bruh I died in the first 30 seconds
keen grove
i think he shoots the 2 crystals at beggining with R then goes through the center
slim lintel
oh yeah that'd probably be better than the dumb shit I'm doing
keen grove
i got to teleporter in 15s with that method
cold orchid
the waiting sucks omg
slim lintel
I just got 14s thats 6 seconds faster than what I was doing lmao
tough belfry
i'm hyped for the first ever huntress sub 4
slim lintel
smol pp
zenith plinth
lol
slim lintel
probably because this game is so easy to cheat in and they suck ass at scripting/hacking/life in general so they need some feeling of accomplishment in their lives so they hack a dead almost untouched gamemode in the video game "Risk of Rain 2" developed Hopoo from Hopoo Games to feel good about themselves in some twisted way
good job going to www.cheat-engine.gov
proud of you champ
keen grove
I dont know how to manipulate jellfish 😦
zenith plinth
cheating in a coop game is generally just a brother momentum
keen gorge
is this trials good for chunked?
zenith plinth
i dont know but i can tell you how i got chunked
slim lintel
yeah probably just fire preon across the tele s1
keen gorge
hmmm
would any of those happen to be in this week's trials xD
capacitor, preon, fuel cells etc
zenith plinth
isnt it easier to do it on drizzle with command on bruh
keen gorge
yes but that cheeeet
zenith plinth
doubt
velvet arrow
90% of the challenges rely heavily on RNGesus blessing you, so it hardly matters.
keen gorge
📠
velvet arrow
Only challenge off the top of my head that requires a modicum of skill is Huntress's "don't get hit on stage 3"
Ethereal too, I guess. But they both rely heavily on luck-based "god runs" anyways.
Acrid's challenges aren't too bad, and actually rely on using the character to do stuff instead of being the character and hoping for random chance to bless you with a random encounter.
I'm looking at you "find a bunch of crowbars" challenge.
So honestly, the whole "but using Command means the challenge is no longer challenging and thus you need to throw your computer into the ocean in penance" argument falls flat.
slim lintel
frik
cyan stratus
were you even sprinting
slim lintel
I actually sprinted pretty late s2 and I think thats what cost me lmao
you can have it idgaf I'm not sitting in a braindead tele event for another 3 minutes just to shave .10
cyan stratus
is huntress actually unironically best for this trial
keen grove
dude
slim lintel
actually yeah probably
keen grove
how do I manipulate the jelly fish to come above
slim lintel
loader might be faster but thats a strugglebus
keen grove
nah WE USING MUL-T
cyan stratus
the road to jellyfish baiting must be traveled alone
slim lintel
you dont manipulate the jellies at all you just wait for a jelly to spawn in the cave and M2 it and your glaive just bends reality and goes through the wall
cyan stratus
oh, im baiting it
keen grove
I baited it one time by accident
I figured out how to bait it you just stand thereish and it come up
dense yarrow
HOLY SHIT I DID IT
keen grove
good job
slim lintel
artifacts update made ethereal either the easiest or actually hardest challenge
zenith plinth
same i cant either
bright condor
i just wish there was a quick restart button
regal fable
yuh
native jackal
quick restart would be glorious
regal fable
i give up
quiet hawk
prime snow
damn
almost looked at a sub 530
but jellies crowded 2nd tele as event completed
540*
not bad for ethereal run i guess
quiet hawk
been grabbing preon first stage and rushing tele. preon nukes wisps and helps clear a path for jellies, cause theres always one that gets stuck below
prime snow
as far as this one goes
keen grove
bro
prime snow
the first 30 seconds are hardest if youre trying to ethereal
keen grove
stage 2 is free for ethereal
prime snow
yeah
keen grove
doesnt really matter but id use rising thunder
craggy heath
Would it be wise to grind this one for ethereal?
keen grove
yes because the second stage is jelly fish
craggy heath
Alright
lyric swan
should I be going for the egg on stage 2?
keen grove
nope
lyric swan
ok thanks
keen grove
its a prismatic trial I dont think you should ever go for the egg
quiet hawk
regal fable
trying again
clever mountain
you can do it funny yellow dog
regal fable
craggy heath
So is there a strategy to not get hit by wisps
keen grove
press "r"
lyric swan
kill them before they kill you
regal fable
i see.
lyric swan
also you can dodge right before the attack hits
proper lava
when you start teleporter grab the barrel for the fireworks
clever mountain
first part done
regal fable
no luck agh
thorny zodiac
regal fable
i cant even do it regularly how can i do it without getting hit
cyan stratus
my guy what are you doing to get hit this trial
unless you facetank a crystal or afk on top of a rock i really dont see how you can get hit
craggy heath
So is it only a noob thing to get hit by wisps
clever mountain
WHY
regal fable
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
silver grotto
YESSSS
prime snow
nice
prime snow
the first 30 seconds are p much the only time youre fighting wisps, the ones that spawn and those first 2 crystals
you can take cabbage route and maybe youll have to kill 1 more wisp after your preon when you go to move to stage 2
regal fable
what about the teleporter, the initial spawn is wiped out by the preon an then i get killed by the ads that spawn
what? enlighten me
prime snow
drop down into the pit and hug the wall
quiet hawk
with huntress boomerang decimates wisps
regal fable
i see
quiet hawk
and jellies for that matter
clever mountain
you can stand on the side of the hole
regal fable
interesting
prime snow
the most winning move is dont play, yeah you stand down low on the side and you wont take fall damage since youre so close to the reset spot
listen for where the wisp is, i played it safe and immediately shifted to see where the close ones were and r'd so i could safely swap stage
clever mountain
haha yes
regal fable
same
quiet hawk
lmao i did that a bunch
prime snow
map 2 is just dont use all 3 of your moves at same time, as long as youve got something up there should be no way a jelly hits you
quiet hawk
also, i dont use preon anymore it adds maybe 10 secs?
prime snow
whats the fastest time rn btw
quiet hawk
like 4:01 i think
prime snow
preon is for people trying to ethereal
clever mountain
I'm not going for preon now, going for at least sub 5
guess I'm not going for a sub5 anymore
cyan stratus
the fastest time is 48 seconds
solemn fiber
fastest time in game will be shorter than that once the stage is sky meadow and the character is merc
cyan stratus
ok but the portal counts as stage clear and pt looks for 2 stage clears so it'll probably send you to the artifact world thing
solemn fiber
oh yeah forgot 2 stage clears not 1
solemn fiber
so that means the fastest one is one where you can get to the artifact easily n complete the artifact easily.
forest snow
God I keep getting hit by an effing JELLYFISH
regal fable
i did IT
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
native jackal
out of all the characters to get hit from wisps make the most sense
cyan stratus
theoretical minimum change my mind
quiet hawk
i dont even get how to break -4:30
quiet hawk
whats your time for stage 1?
cyan stratus
1:53.5
keen grove
I finish it at 1:54.66
cyan stratus
if ur not ballista backwards momentum boosting ur doing it wrong
quiet hawk
ballista?
keen grove
bruh its the alt "R"
cyan stratus
it stops your momentum but if you blink right as you do it you regain speed faster
quiet hawk
ah tbh i haven't unlocked alt r yet. need to do that.
jade holly
epic
tawdry knoll
Is there any easier prismatic trial to aim for? I did yesterday and today's and both are impossible for me at my skill level. I JUST want to unlock the scythe and I am at my wits end.
quiet hawk
not at this time no. you could wait for reset.
tawdry knoll
that's what I did yesterday and today's is even worse
quiet hawk
i had good luck with the huntress, auto aim and 2 shotting everything.
tawdry knoll
I tried that, but I always get shot in the back by a wisp that I didn't see spawn. Even when I'm wildly looking in every direction one always manages to spawn just out of sight and hits me.
quiet hawk
the sound queues are the biggest indicator for me, you can hear them spawn and directionally where they're at.
hybrid igloo
this one isn't too bad if you play huntress
tawdry knoll
that might also be an issue then... My sound card is dead
so I can only use visual cues
hybrid igloo
my biggest trouble was I couldn't find the last jellyfish in stage two so I couldn't finish
quiet hawk
yeah, there is a visual queue when they're about to attack but, imo in high stress situations its too rough to rely on.
tawdry knoll
Well if I see htem, they automatically die. The issue is, they spawn off screen for me and hit me before I'm aware of them. Even looking around in circles constantly as I move isn't enough.
quiet hawk
on stage 2 when i hit tele i immediately go underneath to get the one that has always spawned on my runs. the tele zone goes through to the underground spot.
gleaming wasp
is this on console?
quiet hawk
@tawdry knoll in the tele area i put my back to the wall, theres only like a 180 degree zone they can spawn from that point.
gleaming wasp
i managed to get the merc achievement on this one so I don't think it's too bad
tawdry knoll
I can't even get that far
prime snow
@tawdry knoll watch cabbage's vid for this one, you can follow his route almost 1:1, you dont have to deal with much more than 6-8 wisps and stage 2 you just have to not use all 3 of your mobility
it really is doable even if a bit of a grind
tawdry knoll
I get to about the second time crystal and die on my way to the third
quiet hawk
where did he post that
quiet hawk
ah i wanna see the huntress run
tawdry knoll
yeah I'm not nearly good enough with merc to do that... I'm still very clunky with my melee character movements
jade holly
that was way easier than the other one
took me 5 tries and i one shot the second stage
prime snow
i dont play merc at all either
tawdry knoll
I also really wish restarting after dying was faster. >< I am spending ten times as long on menus as I am actually TRYING the trial...
prime snow
yeah, i wish resetting was faster too
quiet hawk
the quickest way to tp is through the broken tunnel.
tawdry knoll
back against the wall doesn't seem to work
prime snow
down in the pit?
tawdry knoll
Will try the pit.
prime snow
down in the pit is a bit of geometry sticking out, you can stand on that until portal charges
you just drop down and you wont take fall damage since youre so close to it already
tawdry knoll
just tried it, it's not working. i get to 99% but it doesn't end. it needs me to kill the boss.
prime snow
grab the preon accumulator that spawns next to the map start
you should fire it off as you hit the teleporter
the tendrils will tag all the wisps and kill them
tawdry knoll
ah
prime snow
you can follow cabbages vid i posted, its actually really consistent
tawdry knoll
I am trying to follow it, but the fact htat I'm not using merc means it's not too consistent
since i'm dealing with enemies in a different way
prime snow
are you jsut trying to clear it
tawdry knoll
yeah
prime snow
what character
tawdry knoll
huntress, since she has autoaim
prime snow
do you have the 3 shortblink unlocked
your mouse 2 should be instagibbing everything
and the preon still works, though if youre speed running theyre not even grabbing that anymore for time
tawdry knoll
I do have shortblink unlocked and am using it. One of my biggest issues is right hwen I get hte equipment, there is a wisp that spawns in acompletely random spot every time
So i'm looking around for it and it kills me almost half the time
prime snow
save at least 1 blink, you can time it to dodge the wisp
let me do it a few times with your set up, what m1 and r are you using
lucid bobcat
the question is, why did you ever willingly use the alt utility in the first place?
prime snow
??
tawdry knoll
i'm using the normal primary. the other one takes too long ot charge up
and i'm uisng hte glaive
tawdry knoll
are the prismatic challenges always this difficult? I feel like i'd be having more fun with this if it wasn't tied to unlocking things, as I could then just wait until I got better.
prime snow
im having literally 0 issues with huntress
would you be willing to screenshare or something? i wanna see what youre doing
quiet hawk
imo the scythe is powerful, but not necessary for monsoon runs
prime snow
i wiped my save so i dont even have any huntress stuff unlocked rn lol
tawdry knoll
I could try to screenshare
prime snow
im in voice channel 9
lucid bobcat
the alt primary becomes infinitely better with more than 1 syringe
tawdry knoll
ok, since my sound card is dead I can't speak while in the channel
...i also won't be able to hear
tawdry knoll
says I can't stream into this channel
prime snow
hm
i guess it makes sense server doesnt let it lol
but yeah, the route works
just make sure you throw your glaive at the wisps that clump as the teleporter is charging while youre down in the pit
theyll be close enough together for the bounce but you wont have time to m1 them down
tawdry knoll
I can't see them though from down there and the glaive doesn't launch if I dont' have a target
prime snow
yeah youll step off into the pit as an out of bounds
and itll teleport you up
you might even be able to r for height, cancel it, and glaive too
and then fall back down so they cant hit you if they locked on
tawdry knoll
ah
and yeah i'm sure the path works it's just, I don't seem to have the skill to pull it off
prime snow
and theyll die to bounce and then you can oob after
ive been able to clear portal just hopping around up top too with alt m1
although i guess its worth mentioning
tawdry knoll
I really hate taht wisp near the gear. most of hte time it appears infront of the cave, but then sometimes it doesn't and hten it kills me
prime snow
i mostly play with glass anyways so im kind of used to it
tawdry knoll
equipment box rather
prime snow
its still killing you before you can blast it down?
with huntress i can kinda just run at them like a goon and come out unscathed
slim lintel
turn your sensitivity up to max and spam your mouse around you will kill everything this trial easily doing that
as huntress
prime snow
everything on screen just auto dies to m1
you can try commando too and also just blast everything on screen
though you might have to get creative for teleporter end
tawdry knoll
it takes two hits to kill everything with the primary attack, at least for me
prime snow
with the original m1 yeah, alt m1 should bring them down in 1 click
tawdry knoll
it does, but it has a lag on firing that gets me killed constantly
it takes longer to charge up to launch than it takes the other primary to just fire twice
and the first primary also seems to have a longer range
and that wisp near the equipment chest is driving me insane
it's been consistently appearing behind me instead of infront of the cave, so I have begunt o turn around after opening the chest and now it's back to spawning infront of the cave
prime snow
sorry man im not sure how else i can really help you
tawdry knoll
yeah, i'm not sure either. it's like the perfect amount of random to mess me up. if it was consistent I could trial and error through it, or if it was completely random I wouldn't end up getting into a pattern that kills me some percent of the time.
prime snow
I do think that for sure this trial is easy enough that the people needing scythe/merc alt should persevere through it
tawdry knoll
I am trying, I've gotten to the second world once so far, but most of my runs end due to that one particular wisp near the start because it's the perfect amount of inconsistent
prime snow
Pretty easy one for merc too
tawdry knoll
which one is which?
prime snow
Huntress is speed for sure
fast bane
@royal bane just completing
prime snow
I think you could make loader work too, I'm gonna try it out in the morning
As far as speed
royal bane
engineer is good for turtling up if you aren't sure at your skills and situational awareness
the shield no sells the bombs and wisps and the turrets are brutal with glass on
there's also a missile drone near the start as well
tawdry knoll
engineer can't directly hit the wisps though which is tough. which would be better for this, the walking turrets or the stationary ones?