disagree
#prismatic-trials
cyan stratus
spring juniper
Loader can go fast
tough belfry
second boss sucks though
crystal cape
for second boss i just used m2 to line up the contraptions and r to finish them. i also would immediately kill one as they spawn, since there are an odd number of them. i would then always line up my punch to go towards the basement because the glacial contraption spawns there, and i used the pylon to finish it off while running back to teleporter, which involves using your grapple on the corner of the metal hull to swing around and then punch to the teleporter
crystal cape
1:35
tough belfry
does rex not have the bad stage 2 boss
cyan stratus
idk i haven't tried
i had to activate portal with merc after 3:00 though so i didnt get 50 bells
mellow mesa
cyan stratus
🦀
pearl eagle
🦀
dark gale
tawdry copper
dark gale
We need him
tawdry copper
slim lintel
🦀 we crabbin bois?
pearl eagle
little wadi
When I was trying this seed I got a Blazing Magma worm as the second boss, all I needed to do was stand on one of those sharp rocks over the edge of the map and let it die on the kill box right under that
tough belfry
good idea
tough belfry
can still be a few seconds faster and also if i can find a faster way to get the magma worm to fall off
slim lintel
is loader better than rex this trial?
tough belfry
idk since i'm not good with rex
slim lintel
huh just figured out some interesting loader tech
if you stand max distance and hit a crystal with the alt M2 it doesnt go on cd
royal drift
why is it so hard to not get hit 😦
dusty panther
yeah, it seems like it takes such a high skill level needed to do the ethereal challenge that pretty few people are gonna get to test the skill unless they mod the game or something.
cyan stratus
no
icy urchin
you don't necessarily need to have much skill, just wait for a pt that has items that make the run easy, there have been a few ones like that
icy urchin
it's prolly still among the top5 easiest
I did the challange with the 2nd after the update
that had 2 brooches on the first stage and a brooch printer on the 2nd
long prairie
How much stages are in prismatic trials?
icy urchin
2⃣
long prairie
Also is this subR better for merc? :V
icy urchin
the alt for his 4th? utter trash compared to eviscirate
no iframes, no mobility, doesn't scale with attack speed
long prairie
So the etheral is just for lulz? 😛
elfin plinth
Yes,skill showoff
icy urchin
and that, having to go thru the trouble of that challange just to unlock a bad skill
slim lintel
ethereal was hopoo trying to kill off the mistake that is prismatic trials
icy urchin
what do you think the reward would be for the top times? lunar coins?
slim lintel
a sense of pride and accomplishment
amber hamlet
The ultimate reward
keen coral
bragging rights
tough belfry
youtube views
little wadi
personalized voice mail from the devs
slim lintel
good job, proud of you, keep it up
cyan stratus
https://youtu.be/nLAHFC5Gi_c new trial
amber hamlet
Saw an IGN article talking about a speed runner who obliterated in 14min... Take that crown Cabbage!
slim lintel
speedrunning base game is big 🦀 energy
cyan stratus
i dont like farming rng
icy urchin
14 min, that's impressive, my best was somewhere around 16 mins
slim lintel
Me and a friend played around a bit and woulda got a sub 14 mins or close to it but I missed the obelisk
🤡
cyan stratus
yea but thats with 2 players
slim lintel
well considering my friend isnt that great at at one point was about 20s late to the tele thats really good, the wr for coop is 13:55
There's no advantage to playing coop, more of a disadvantage since if you of you screws up it wastes time
icy urchin
doesn't the teleporter charge faster if there are more players within the zone?
or is the max rate the same as if you were playing alone?
slim lintel
no, it charges base speed if every player is in the tele and less for each player outside
or maybe the same no matter how many are out idk
slim lintel
loader by infinity
speedrunning base game is a complete waste of time, theres pretty much less of a community for it than PT's and theres very little actual skill involved other than basic tele spawn knowledge. It's 100% getting lucky on where you spawn relative to the tele for 7 stages
icy urchin
oh definitely, like if you spawn on DR on first stage in the middle and the tp is on the other side of the map
slim lintel
yeah for roost if tele is across the landbridge or in the door cave your run is over
tough belfry
there is maybe some advantage to coop since you can launch yourself off of other players to go fast but that's assuming bad tele spawns which is bad anyway
going for a good time can basically be resetting for 
since that saves loads of time but it takes ages to get a decent run then every time you get fucked by teleporter/spawn rng
speedrunning 20 stages or CE monsoon is just getting spinel tonic then not dying or getting malachite hermit crabs
proper flume
yeah speedrunning base game is in a weird spot right now. Honestly hoping it becomes more interesting with artifacts and a final boss added in the game
slim lintel
Yeah we were trying to get really good at launching off eachother as loader but the spawn times are too staggered to be worth it
proper flume
honestly forgot that wr for coop was 13:55
that could easily go down like 20-30 seconds but there's not a whole ton of activity in the speedrun community rn
It gets really active when a new patch drops, then it just falls off really hard
slim lintel
probably because its so boring to run lol, one bad tele spawn and you just reset
proper flume
on the bright side, it's better than it used to be now that loader's here
mellow mesa
dark gale
to finish prismatic trial i need to beat 7 stages?
tough belfry
2
dark gale
what "2"
slim lintel
all 2
dark gale
all 2
what?
tough belfry
you need to beat 2 stages
slim lintel
all 2 of em
tough belfry
they can be any stages in any order
slim lintel
2 of em
icy urchin
there are 2 stages in pts
dark gale
i don't understand ,-,
icy urchin
have you never done a pt before?
dark gale
2 times
slim lintel
you spawn in a map you go to the teleporter you spawn in a map your go to the teleporter
icy urchin
during the pt you don't have to wait for the teleporter to fully charge, killing the boss is enough
kill the 2 bosses and you are done
dark gale
hard
icy urchin
in most cases you can finish a pt under a few minutes
dark gale
during the pt you don't have to wait for the teleporter to fully charge, killing the boss is enough
kill the 2 bosses and you are done
to do that i don/t need to break that pink crystals?
icy urchin
you need to break the 3 crystals first to be able to start the teleporter
but after that you only need to kill the boss, don't have to wait for the 100% to be able to proceed
icy urchin
the teleporter event will end after the boss is dead
tough belfry
spawn, break crystals, go to teleporter, kill boss, teleport
dark gale
and.. looting?
tough belfry
you can if you want
tough belfry
then we can't really help with that
take the items you think will help and learn when enemies spawn to be ready for them
verbal osprey
so ive just comepleted the ethereal challenge twice but im not getting the unlonck, am i not allowed to use shields either?
elfin plinth
The challenge itself is unfair lol
Also no shields because Transcendence would've been ez game.
verbal osprey
that doesnt make sense because with a sheild you have more than your max health so technically you are not falling below 100%
elfin plinth
It does tho? Shields are displayed in the same place as health, doesn't close it as barriers do
Therefore, it's your health.
cyan stratus
this trial is easy for merc challenge
verbal osprey
thank you @cyan stratus this helped me complete this challenge
cyan stratus
np
slim lintel
cabbage deserves an apple pie
little wadi
or coleslaw
mellow mesa
gilded remnant
Ahaha @cyan stratus I'm real close to you
icy urchin
bark bark I'm a shark 
dark gale
woof woof
patent nest
guys what lunar item can be found on 2nd stage in Prismatic Trials currently?
hard iris
Ok but can you win a prismatic trial as artificer
icy urchin
this was an older seed, but there are a few Artis https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/624614603770560514/20190920103328_1.jpg
soft acorn
Except for fun factor
dark gale
What is rex
cyan stratus
when did trials get popular in china
slim lintel
china added strict vidja game curfews to youth so they probably only have enough time for one quick game so they run a trial
cyan stratus
maybe top 10% gets social credit
slim lintel
lmao
cyan stratus
you should go beat my 1:48
this trial isn't bad except don't bother trying to crystal jump off of 1st crystal s2
slim lintel
I wish the devs cared enough to make all crystals spawn like 5 pixels higher so that wouldnt happen
slim lintel
👀 I think I got a loader route goin that can beat rex
cyan stratus
no you don't
slim lintel
We'll see about that 
shit its really close
a single punch crit and I think its golden
slim lintel
extremely sloppy wasted oodles of time I'm comin'
cyan stratus
not even sub 1:50
slim lintel
I'm at 1:48 now and still super sloppy. S2's mobility is really hard and the jellyfish is fiddly
pine gazelle
@slim lintel would you mind posting a video? I'm really interested in your loader run. I play loader too, im at 2:37
slim lintel
I just deleted all my tries lol, I'll upload it when/if I beat cabbage
proper flume
I'm gonna grind out some loader later
pine gazelle
thanks! be sure to @ me if you post it here
slim lintel
will do
cyan stratus
play rex instead
slim lintel
nah loader is actually fun
proper flume
^
proper flume
Just wish his dps was a bit better
slim lintel
I wish hopoo didnt make flying asshole bosses in a game where you can barely look 45 degrees up
proper flume
yeah I don't get why you can't look up higher
slim lintel
👀 getting closer if I got a crit I woulda beatcha
shit I was 72 damage away from getting a like 1:38
cyan stratus
imagine not being sub 1:41
slim lintel
imagine playing rex
pearl eagle
Imagine playing PTs in 2019
slim lintel
imagine still visiting the #prismatic-trials channel while imagining playing pt's in 2019
pearl eagle
There's just something special about watching you guys bang your heads against a wall
Are you farming a 1% crit on loader rn to beat cabbages Rex run?
Or do you have glasses?
slim lintel
I dont ~need~ the crit at this point I just gotta hit the movement I've it 1/150 times
pearl eagle
Aight, then I'm rooting for you ☝
slim lintel
though I think I found a new slightly slower but more consistent option
pearl eagle
I hate to break it to you, but slow = bad when you try to go fast
slim lintel
I literally have no clue how I got that movement and I can not get it to work again so meh
cyan stratus
you can try playing rex instead
slim lintel
#NotMySurvivor
Can I get a tldr on what items you pick up?
pearl eagle
oh shit
slim lintel
at least I think no crits
ugh the vid looks way oversaturated I think the last obs update screwed something up
cyan stratus
wtf
pine gazelle
thank you!
cyan stratus
ok that s2 was sick
slim lintel
coulda been a better run but I'm pretty proud of that route
I wonder if mods will ever pin our fast videos, you know the videos that are actually the point of PT's 
slim lintel
pearl eagle
Holy shit I'm getting pissed at this jellyfish fight
slim lintel
yeah thats the hardest part is getting a good jelly
slim lintel
WhO pLayS pT's In 2019
pearl eagle
I'm fuming
slim lintel
also that tree thing looks cool but wastes like a whole second
I just wanted to style on cabbage
sharp yoke
Anybody got a good run layout for this PT for the Merc challenge?
gilded remnant
Wanted to reach the top 10 but the gap already huge here
hard iris
trying to replicate those graceful loader moves sounds fun though
slim lintel
you may have been retired but cabbage is retired and washed up
pearl eagle
btw, did you dabble in breaking a fourth crystal on s2? That run was super scuffed so improvised the crystal on way to tp for extra damage and somehow got a decent time
slim lintel
that would help the queen fight be more consistent at the very least
my run was honestly pretty dumb and lucky it just looks swag, I'm sure theres things that could be improved
pearl eagle
I mean, somehow you manage to hit lvl 3 during the second boss fight which gives you enough dps with the crowdfunder and basic attack to make up for a couple of swings you need in lvl 2
And I'm not able to replicate the amount of xp you got
slim lintel
I think it was lucky uke procs killing all the blazing baby beetles
pearl eagle
No, I mean you are at the brink of lvl 3 as you leave the 2 crystals on s2
slim lintel
also my jelly was actually really good so I ended S1 with 35 gold since I could turn off CF early
pearl eagle
Oh that's probably it then
slim lintel
are you picking up the 2 barrels before the jelly and the 3 right before tele goes off?
slim lintel
this trial was made for the CF, I've never seen that many barrels grouped up like that before
I wonder if cabbage used the cf in his rex run or not
if he didnt rex is probably faster
polar swan
do shields count towards the ethereal achievement
like can you get a shield and take damage and still get the achievement
slim lintel
Only brooch shields work
polar swan
really?
dark gale
Brooch/aegis
slim lintel
trans and shield generator count as maxhp
cyan stratus
no i didnt use crowdfunder
slim lintel
rex is probably a sub 1:30 then
cyan stratus
no it isn't
slim lintel
dude rex with cf kills bosses in like -1 second
cyan stratus
ok do it then
slim lintel
nah ur the rex scrub
cyan stratus
loader is ez sub 1:20 but i dont play loader
so im just gonna say that and let you do it
slim lintel
first try lmao
cyan stratus
good one
slim lintel
cyan stratus
2nd try pretty easy
pearl eagle
lmao, what a madlad
cyan stratus
i just found a new s1 tech
slim lintel
whatsit
pearl eagle
Is the new tech pressing ctrl to sprint?
cyan stratus
if you punch at the right angle you go faster than the speed of light and go back in time like 3min so the rest is pretty easy from there
slim lintel
oh shit ur right mods please pin this ^
oh wait sorry nvm its not ethereal related
lmao yeah rex beats loader
slim lintel
rex is bullshit
would have been a couple seconds faster but an atg missile decided to fly around something for a few seconds before killing it after I activated tele
cyan stratus
you grab missile ?
cyan stratus
i didnt see a good way to kill crystals when dropping down
slim lintel
you use the geyser right next to it and fly on to the big pointy rocks on center stage, while you're flying kill the crystal on the land bridge then puff jump off the big pointy rocks and you get a view angle on the crystal way over to the left of tele
I was using cf but honestly it may not be worth
cyan stratus
ok
slim lintel
imagine having your time beat by around 5 seconds with 2 different characters
cyan stratus
imagine feeling good about beating a washed up rex's 3rd attempt
proper flume
imagine feeling good
thin ferry
Imagine imagining
proper flume
Imagine
slim lintel
im
proper flume
_ _
cyan stratus
slim lintel
slim lintel
🦀 trial 🦀 trial 🦀 trial 🦀 trial 🦀
honest quiver
Does anyone know the best way to find out if Transcendense is available on a given week?
Or do I just need to play through it hoping to find it?
slim lintel
trans doesnt work if you're trying for the merc challenge
honest quiver
D;
Well then what am I supposed to do?
Yeah there's a brooch but there's only one.
proper flume
just don't get hit 🙂
honest quiver
And the boss is overloading imps.
slim lintel
wait for a better trial this ones pretty trash
proper flume
that's usually the best way
that or wait for cabbage to inevitably make a video on it
honest quiver
Cabbage?
slim lintel
its actually an apple
honest quiver
?
proper flume
cabbage does a video of the achievement on nearly every trial
slim lintel
got a consistant 0 damage s1 but s2 is pretty dumb
cyan stratus
man this trial is easy i got achievement in like 1 try just dont get hit
cyan stratus
honest quiver
I'm bad at video games though. 3;
icy urchin
ooo, it's on SA I wonder if I could find a radio scanner during a pt
hard iris
wow can't believe I uh made it to the number one loader in the world guys. I'd like to thank uuuh my mom
tepid lagoon
this trail is pure cancer
dark gale
Why
tepid lagoon
s2 crab is way too spread out
slim lintel
btw if you take the key on the bridge you can get a capacitor s2
mellow mesa
slim lintel
Hey couldja pin our actual wr speed runs when we bother making vids of them since that's the actual point of trials?
mellow mesa
I don't know which ones of them are WRs or that you are posting them
Just ping me when you actually get WRs with proof that they are WRs(screenshot of the leaderboard(yes I know around top 10 are hacked) would be enough)
I'm pinning cabbages challenge runs because it's something people have to do to get the merc challenge which is a pain to do blindly for like 100% of the people I've talked to
cyan stratus
pin my wr please
cyan stratus
thanks
night badger
cosmic mesa
What are the contemplated prizes for the trials in the future?
cyan stratus
rolex
frosty pivot
I feel like itd involve lunar coins
proven tapir
it'll be lunar coins and probably should be due to funny xd cheating
slim lintel
100% full access to hopoo's sock drawer
misty zealot
languid escarp
🤤
slim lintel
hey guys theres a pod with trans right next to spawn ez merc challenge
pearl eagle
Heckin' bamboozle
slim lintel
this trial will be easy for merc challenge if you dont mind spending 5 lunars every attempt
tribal pewter
@gusty lotus
bright rampart
transendence counts as losing HP?
tough belfry
yes
atomic sparrow
No it doesn’t
tough belfry
:l
atomic sparrow
Atleast not for huntress’ challenge
icy urchin
idk about that but it does for ethereal
tough belfry
it doesn't count as losing hp but getting hit while having transcendence still counts as taking damage
which was what i assumed they were asking about
atomic sparrow
start and finish the map without falling below 100% health
Well there is a difference between loosing hp and taking damage
tough belfry
just having the item doesn't make you lose as far as i know
but it doesn't help
it should be explained better in game >:(
atomic sparrow
Yeah, lot of things could (like item stats in the item’s ingame desc)
elfin plinth
Damage in shields negates both 100% hp challenges
tawdry copper
^, I managed to fail huntress's challenge with transcendence on my first attempt
elfin plinth
Also making the challenges be ok with damage in Shields wouls make transcend too powerful for them ngl
And Ethereal would not be hated
tawdry copper
ethereal would literally just be "wait for a seed that has trans in it"
cyan stratus
you dont need brooches to do ethereal easily
thick kite
ethereal is about practicing a trial until you know it like the back of your hand
slim lintel
no ethereal is about not getting hit
cyan stratus
you only need like 15min to route ethereal for most trials
mellow mesa
cyan stratus
🦀
slim lintel
cyan stratus
someone else do ethereal for this trial i'm busy with classes
stone star
Mercenary run is beating my ass. I tired to look off the guy linked in pinned. But he encounters barely any wisps at all.
warped jetty
@stone star Feel you. My run was basically failing everytime i encountered a wisp.. But i made it !
honest briar
Is there any way to speed up the transition between activating the teleporter and moving to the next stage?
pearl eagle
Don't kill stuff after you've activated the telly
warped jetty
If someone still trying to get the mercenary challenge, this prismatic is feasable pretty quickly without being hit. Here is what i did :https://youtu.be/gNzo3D5-nkk
tips : Current seed. End in 50h. You can try to do the same as i did to get it. The very hard part is avoiding the wisp. Outside of that their is no order for item pickup. The only thing is : you need to be level 3 before the first tp in order to oneshot the stone giant. Also in the second part, both lunar pods have the shapped glass, so you can choose which one you want 🙂 Good luck and please pm me if any of you manage to get it done using this 😉
honest briar
For the current seed does activating a turret contribute to that?
pearl eagle
If it kills anything it will get the money for the kill, and the teleporter will take longer teleporting you to next stage because it has to convert the newly acquired money
honest briar
Thanks.
tough belfry
<@&559786374228738069> pin ^^^
tardy remnant
?
lavish raven
Why though
tough belfry
the video
lavish raven
warped jetty
It's usefull but i guess their is no need to pin it. It's not a best score or anything. I just though it might help some 🙂
slim lintel
holy shit the cabbage privilege lmao
mellow mesa
No it's because I'm the one that handles this
I should've explained to other mods about this
Then again they never look here anyway :P
warped jetty
Thanks for the pin 🙂
indigo snow
I did it before you took over March smh
cyan stratus
hey someone actually did it, nice
indigo snow
@warped jetty It helps to put the date of the trial in the video so people know, since it rotates
For future reference
indigo snow
I could be wrong, but I don't think we've had any trials repeat
warped jetty
Oh so the date only matter for the current one. But i'm just posting this here and for friends anyway. I even forgot to activate my Action license so the logo is visible and all. i'll probably delete the video in a few days ^^
indigo snow
Yep yep, do what you will
warped jetty
But thank for the advice. I'll add the date just in case
slim lintel
why it was already done what is wrong with you
warped jetty
I'm sad now 😭
proven tapir
When ya gotta flex, ya gotta flex
cyan stratus
i had time to make a video so i did
real coral
this prismatic trial makes me sad
cyan stratus
why
real coral
I keep getting wisps at the most unlucky spots
unexpected as well
i made it as far as activating the boss but by then 3 wisps spawned upon teleporter start up in front of me and killed the run
cyan stratus
just go fast
real coral
@cyan stratus I actually followed your exact path in your vid, thanks man 🙏
cyan stratus
np
real coral
thats one hell of a time
zenith plinth
finally got the ethereal challenge done ty for the strat
clever schooner
i also got my ethereal challenge done, cabbage the mvp
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moalX0PQMow easy trial
terse solstice
wow you can bash vagrant against wall with dash? 😮
elder oxide
i thought prismatic trials were always the same
i got magma worm as second boss.....
overloading**
tawdry copper
if the game scales far enough, the boss can change to suit the new difficulty
hazy plinth
@elder oxide Which stage and difficulty were you on?
thick kite
Its always the same seed, but it can spawn a different boss if you take too long because it will have extra "credits" to spawn enemies with.
elder oxide
i dunno, it was a prismatic trial. second level is the one where you unlock loader right now
i triggered the boss around 5 mins....apparently that's too long lmao
thick kite
hmm. iirc the boss spawner takes credits from the other spawners too. maybe try again, but wait for something to spawn by the teleporter before hitting it.
elder oxide
yeah it looks like it's always overloading after 5-5:30 or so
so if anyone needs the commando achievement, this can work for that, too
hazy plinth
Then you'd be playing Commando, which is not a fun time
slim lintel
is it an actual overloading worm or is it an overloading elite worm?
PT's like to spawn elite worms which arent a thing in the base game and wont count
elder oxide
it says overloading magma worm when it spawns
but magma worm when it kills you
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim lintel
then its an elite worm and wont count
terse solstice
visiting shop between stage 1 & 2 changes the boss
hazy plinth
Well that's highly unfortunate because I just finished killing the overloading magma worm
elder oxide
no achievement?
hazy plinth
Nope, Overloading Worm =/= Overloading Magma Worm
thin timber
Overloading Overloading Worm
elfin plinth
c a n y o u n o t
thin timber
You can't stop me from dreaming 😦
elfin plinth
Oof
icy urchin
could the overloading worm even have elite versions?
icy urchin
malachite overloading worm wants to know your location
elfin plinth
n o p l e a s e
soft acorn
real chads hit the mountain shrine on S1 😉
little wadi
I'd say getting the worm might be easier than the vagrant cause you can make it die on the edge of the map
cyan stratus
just 1shot the jellyfish
pearl eagle
slim lintel
just 🦀
elder oxide
tried this one a dozen more times
the video has him one-shotting the vagrant. any tips on how to apparently skip that whole fight?
slim lintel
think of yourself dashing directly in to the center of the jellyfish instead of through
elder oxide
i can think about a lot of stuff
slim lintel
I mean I just told you exactly how its done, don't ask for help if you're gonna be snarky about it
elder oxide
you didn't really, though
do you have to be a certain distance? are there specific frames of the attack that actually achieve the effect? does the jellyfish have to be in a specific location or on a specific map? do you need certain items? etc etc
are you saying that for any jellyfish if i dash directly through the center, it will always destroy it in one hit? because that's all you told me. if that's correct, then sweet.
icy urchin
tough belfry
:v that is the same thing
slim lintel
it's literally what I told you but ok
icy urchin
some ppl like me understand it better with pictures/vids
but I saw someone else post this not long ago
thought it could help
cyan stratus
ok this new trial is kinda hard for merc challenge
slim lintel
good
cyan stratus
it's actually pretty fun to try to fight a blazing clay pot with pretty much literally nothing since there aren't useful items on this trial
but it's pretty hard so idk when i'll have a video out
livid zephyr
im just gonna wait for an easy one to come into rotation
last trial was trash and this one is painful to look at. i just want a lucky draw like the one rotation i missed with the preon cannon
slim lintel
this is like the only bad one for a long time
rotund canopy
Can you unlock achievements in prismatic trials?
tawdry copper
yes
rotund canopy
I'll try to get the 300% movement chievo, brb.
rotund canopy
I'd have needed three more energy cans, huh...
stable sorrel
cabbage, tell me when you got it down
all i can do is just go fireworks, rush crystals, activate boss, activate barrels + and drain boss without getting hit
o wait, nvm the problem is the steaming crabby boi, i give up
cyan stratus
1st stage is easy but 2nd requires a bit of thinking
i haven't had time to do multiple runs usually it takes like 20min but this one is kinda hard
slim lintel
hurry up cabbage I need ethereal right now I can't take it anymore
cyan stratus
ok i did it using an 80iq strat
took like an hour though smh
the things i do for you
slim lintel
i forgot I already unlock ethereal a long time ago so I dont care
cyan stratus
oh ok
here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5A-0P2vCtQ&feature=youtu.be
have fun
cyan stratus
it's a pit that instakills if stuff falls in it
quasi adder
I wont even attempt that.. Lol
stable sorrel
ima try that for the next 2 hours
mellow mesa
deft sun
how often do we get a new trials to attempt the merc challenge
pearl eagle
Every 72 hours
slim lintel
🦀
zenith plinth
im waiting for a new one so i can try and get the Merc stuff
lusty palm
can you complete the huntress challenge in a trial if the map is second?
tawdry copper
yes, all challenges are clearable in prismatic trials
(at least ones that fall within the restrictions of prismatic trials)
lusty palm
Iam trying to get this achievement
I found a nice way to gain shields
do shields count with hp?
tawdry copper
are you referring to shields 
or barrier 
?
tawdry copper
shields dont save you
if you lose any shield it still counts as falling below 100% hp
lusty palm
I have to beat an overloading worm like this
damn
thx for answering my question
@tawdry copper thanks to your advice I focused on getting more damage rather than go for defense and got the achievement thanks
indigo snow
How creative
astral mango
Its bisons if you go fast enough, and then you can bait them to run off the edge.
slim lintel
a masterful baiting strategy
cyan stratus
im busy someone else record this trial
astral mango
Anyone know how someone beat this seed in 1:05?
slim lintel
astral mango
Makes me feel better about my two minute time I guess...
slim lintel
idk what the trial is like but rex should be able to do it in about 1:30
astral mango
Man, I need to see these runs. Try as I might with Rex, can barely get 2 minutes. Some crazy efficient people out there I guess.
rocky pollenBOT
juniormiranda#4783 was banned
indigo snow
👀
cyan stratus
https://youtu.be/4488tmS6-ZM made the video since nobody else was doing it
cyan stratus
also did a rex run if anyone wants to beat it
indigo snow
wary abyss
Does anyone know the quickest way to complete the Etheral challenge?
cyan stratus
just dont get hit
cyan stratus
i did it in like 3min
cyan stratus
i can upload it but it'll take a bit
wary abyss
if you do not mind
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ikW8aXNwrA&feature=youtu.be ok here you go
wary abyss
geez im so bad
I do the same route, but I get hit
like this titan always uses his laser and done
wary abyss
Ok im god awful I give up
icy urchin
if you stay close it won't use his laser
dreamy ivy
cyan stratus
not if it targets a drone and then switches targets
charred urchin
I've been trying that exact route for so long now
I always get unlucky and the titan targets my drone and starts lasering and switches to me, maybe someday I will get this stupid skill lol
cunning ether
The best way way to do ethereal is to just accept it’s skill isn’t good enough to go through the suffering and move on to a different goal. Pro strats
charred urchin
while I agree, I've seen my roommate use it, it's not very good, I am trying to go for 100% completion, so I gotta get it somehow
cunning ether
Well good luck : o remember to take breaks to reset mental
charred urchin
Yeah, not gonna lie it has gotten me a bit tilted, on this trial I beat the last boss and was walking to the teleporter about to use my shift, and a damn microsecond before I could I got sniped by a wisp. Might just wait for another trial
wish I had thought to try the first trial that was available, I hear that one was pretty easy to do it on
tough belfry
i haven't tried this trial but it might be worth it to not take the drone if that's making it hard?
charred urchin
I haven't tried that but I'm not sure how much that would help, it keeps the enemies off you before you get to the first tele. Maybe worth a try though
cyan stratus
this trial is pretty easy since all you have to do is not get hit
shut badger
have devs said anything ever about changing the merc challenge for prismatic trials? it is a bit ridiculous and i'm at a loss
cyan stratus
it's easy though
shut badger
it really isn't
maybe if every map had a brooch printer it would be easy, but that isn't the case
cyan stratus
doesn't take more than an hour for most trials
shut badger
alright, then what is your strat for the current trial?
cyan stratus
haven'
t played ityet
i'll do it when i get home
last trial was braindead easy though why didn't you do it then
shut badger
tried for over 2 hours and still couldn't get it
zenith plinth
Really not easy @cyan stratus
Followed your entire route on the last trial for good 4 hours and nothing
slim lintel
cyan stratus
this trial is a bit harder, got ethereal but wasn't recording
i'll try to record a run if i have time
plush wave
@shut badger Just so you know, you are speaking to Cabbage, the man who has gotten and recorded him getting ethereal on almost every prismatic trial
He also sometimes speedruns while doing so lmao
grizzled ginkgo
What is getting Ethereal on a trial?
elfin plinth
comleting a trial and not getting damage in hp or shields once with Mercenary
grizzled ginkgo
Very nice very nice
Does topaz broach count?
tawdry copper
nope, barrier is the only exception
grizzled ginkgo
Gotcha
elfin plinth
brooch and aegis
tawdry copper
the achievement is worded as "falling below 100% health" but shield is included in your "max health" for some reason, despite the game not really communicating that
grizzled ginkgo
Is the map set and the same for everyone? Items and all?
tawdry copper
each trial is seeded identically, yes
elfin plinth
changes every 4(?) days
tawdry copper
bosses and items and stages are the same, and even enemy spawns
the stage bosses can change depending on how much time you waste, though
it's possible to encounter an Overloading Worm 
on stage 2 on some seeds if you're lucky, making for an easy Commando achievement
elfin plinth
uhm? i think it's just the elite prefix not actual worm
tawdry copper
elite prefix'd worms don't exist, no?
fading patrol
nah you can get an actual overloading worm if you wait long enough
elfin plinth
well,stage 2 always has an elite prefixed as i've seen said here
so it's just forced worm prefix
tawdry copper
fading patrol
lol i got an overloading worm last week
tawdry copper
overloading worms aren't elites, technically speaking
hence they don't unlock Deicide if you kill them in Monsoon
grizzled ginkgo
Gotcha, that is nice.
fading patrol
i got a blazing worm even outside of PT so i don't understand why they wouldn't spawn as elites? can someone explain that
tawdry copper
it's just a mechanic that's part of the game
they have a setting that prevents them from becoming elites
elfin plinth
they are stupid as elites is my only explanation i'm thinking of
elfin plinth
awu can't be too i think
tawdry copper
modding the game can change this behavior, though i'm unclear on whether it's due to a mod that specifically changes this property of worms, or if modding the game at all makes the game react in a way that allows worms to spawn as elites for some reason
fading patrol
i dont know but my memory tells me that i have seen an blazing worm in a singelplayer match (which would be 100% vanilla) but maybe i just remember things that never happened
tawdry copper
i have seen a modded screenshot of a blazing worm and they are fucking metal
fading patrol
they also drop their lava trail everywhere which is very annoying
pearl eagle
There have been several trials where worms have had the overloading prefix, don't remember if we had any with blazing though. Cabbage or iforgotwho might have a better memory than me
Also the seed changes every 72 hours, not every 4 days
uneven epoch
Shields are counted in 100%?
pearl eagle
Yeah, only acceptable damage is the damage blocked by brooch or aegis
Shields count as your health
quaint bison
AWU and goldie are not really marked as noelites = true, they are spawned through an entirely different system.
And, they actually get their HP/damage bonuses through the same method as elites, but they can get far more.
Basically, think of it as their "level of eliteness" increases as difficulty increases.
shut badger
@plush wave ah so he's a super human and i'm just an average ROR2 player lol. Still rough for me hehe
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atpq4Zdu0xc this trial kinda hard but shouldn't take too long to get
try not to waste too much time killing hermit crabs since you have to skip the dunestrider level up on s2
but the combination of crabs + dragons is hard to deal with
shut badger
wow well done. i had a theory that using that turret would be the key but i thought it'd be out of range. nice
cyan stratus
finally did this trial. by far the hardest one i've ever had to do
won't be of much use though since it ends in 3 hours lol
cyan stratus
if anyone still wants to try it here you go https://youtu.be/MLZGcTN-tyM
mellow mesa
proven tapir
Cabbage out here workin the guide hustle every trial 
opaque crown
есть хоть один русский
cyan stratus
https://youtu.be/xkOGdoqOcvc took a literal 1 attempt this trial is braindead easy for the achievement
cyan stratus
it's marked as not made for kids
slim lintel
but im a kid
elfin plinth
BANNED
elfin plinth
13
slim lintel
🅱️
full seal
Thanks Cabbage, finally got the achievement
cyan stratus
np
sage hollow
earnest elk
@cyan stratus for me the challange is to even find the prismatic trial thing...its not wven in the menu anymore i dunno where it went
cyan stratus
yeah maybe try uninstalling ur 700 mods first
outer zealot
Kudos Cabbage
keen coral
thank you mods, very cool
wicked nacelle
i've accepted that i'm just never getting that achievement or that move
wicked nacelle
ive done this trial 3 times thinking i was good finally but it just didn't give me anything
so i guess at some point i took 1hp damage
jovial osprey
if its any consolation the move is pretty garbo
wicked nacelle
this is apparently one of the easiest ever and i just can't
why couldn't this have been for ANY other class
and then when i finally gave up i actually pulled it off on the last run of the night
oh man that is such a weight off of my shoulders. Legit made me play the game less often. So glad that's behind me
thick trout
My strategy so far is to collect all the missile drones on the current seed and the topaz brooch in the middle
Plus, there's the strike drones in one of the equipment barrels too. I've been trying to map this one for a couple hours
hard achievement
cyan stratus
nice strat
tulip stream
i see your ranking on the leaderboard! you're at 132 right now
indigo snow
thick trout
lol @cyan stratus I see now it's your strat
thick trout
I've mapped it out in an even safer way and i still manage to screw it up
fml
thick trout
I'm pretty sure the game reads at the end that you've taken "0 damage."
I passed it about 3 times with a shield generator, but it still never gave it to me cuz I got hit like once
Which is so frustrating because I know I didn't dip below 100% health
crimson veldt
shield generator doesn't count
because it "adds on your max hp"
brooch & aegis & the likes are different because the orange shield work differently than the blue shield
so buying that personal shield generator next to the boss is useless
thick trout
that's what i figured.
crimson veldt
also, might be a bit useful, there's an invisible chest with an energy drink right next to the boss portal
thick trout
I did manage to find two cloaked chests tho
thick trout
yeaaaaaah. everytime I do it I get so close and then the titan laser locks me instead of the drones
crimson veldt
you basically want to kite the titan forward a bit, closer to the portal
& when he lasers you run behind the corner of the part behind
that's how i did it at least
thick trout
I'm talking the one on roost
crimson veldt
oh, that one i hid behind the fallen pillar
thick trout
I can avoid plenty fine in depths, but for roost wisps always like to peep me behind cover
crimson veldt
there's not that many wisps there tho are there? i can only remember 1
crimson veldt
yeah i messed up plenty at that stage aswell :p
tulip stream
also it gets kinda stressful when you're close to completing the achievement
crimson veldt
^my heartbeat at the end was rising lmao
shut badger
WOOT. i've finally done it. thanks for the vids @cyan stratus
cyan stratus
np
thick trout
FINALLY (damage taken 0)
Jesus now I can die for real
tulip stream
Nice work
ivory vessel
am i the only one that thinks hopoo should lower the health threshold for the achieve to 90%?
just to add a little wiggle room
loud sparrow
alright dont do this weeks
3 days or whatever
2 blazing and 1 overloading greater wisps
cyan stratus
i'll go do it
cyan stratus
thick trout
jesus XD
tulip stream
awesome run as always
just wondering though, why did you go so far away from the teleporter?
cyan stratus
gunner turret helps control stuff that chases me
while i'm waiting for equipment cooldown
tulip stream
ah
crimson veldt
this cabbage guy is an aight player huh
rapid agate
Agreed
tough belfry
cabbage only player 
elfin plinth
<@&559786374228738069>
visual dawn
But why me
rocky pollenBOT
koolkid#8395 was banned
visual dawn
Ty
languid escarp
@cyan stratus how do u plan out ur roots?
like do u just cycle through the stage and find something u think u can make work or do u have a tool or something?
cyan stratus
grab everything stage 1, remember where useful stuff is, go to stage 2 and check for equipment canisters and the other stuff if the boss is hard
otherwise i just rush the boss on 2nd stage without checking chests
little star
@cyan stratus Do you want the devs to expand the prismatic trials?
My concept is having 3 type of prismatic trials, short, medium, and long
short is the one we're all currently playing, just 2 stages,
medium is stage 1-4
and long is idk.
that way u can have different approaches and more challenging depending on which 1 u choose, what do u think?
or do u think this is the stupidest idea ever? XD
elfin plinth
Long could be obli
little star
and they should also filter survivors too
like a list on who was the fastest on commando, huntress, etc.
cyan stratus
we've had ideas like this since the start of prismatic trials
neat shuttle
@little star Crazy idea. Prismatic bosses. Cause yknow, that weird crystal stuff needs a source, no?
little star
whats ur opinion on it?
also yeah, maybe have a unique thing thats for prismatic trial c:
neat shuttle
my opinion on your idea?
slim lintel
Maybe if y'all wouldve payed any attention to Prismatic Trials before the mercopalypse it would have more content by now, or ever
shy pecan
this might anger people waiting for a good merc seed but for regular prismatic trials slowing down the pace of new seeds a little would be a good change imo, like 1 a week
combined with other qol changes it would make investing time into a seed feel less rushed/more rewarding once an actual prize is attached for scoring high
(if an actual prize is attached for scoring high)
but atm even if you spend several hours getting a good time it’s all gone in a few days
so combined with there being no incentive other than flexing it feels very bruh
slim lintel
They were originally going to be a week long due to how references to it are named in the files, but they changed it to 3 days before launch because a week is too long. When we actually played trials for speed we could easily optimize a somewhat perfect run within the first day. Changing it for this dumbass merc challenge would be a huge slap in the face
cyan stratus
i get merc achievement within an hour for most trials and spend the rest of the time sitting around waiting for 3 days to pass
if it becomes a week i'm uninstalling
slim lintel
dont worry the new char will have a new challenge: Complete a prismatic trial without taking any damage and ending with over 75% hp barrier from brooch
and without using equipment
cyan stratus
complete a trial without dealing any damage
mighty glen
Pacifist: Complete a trial without killing any creature
slim lintel
I mean that would technically be possible if you baited both bosses off a cliff, you technically wouldnt deal any damage
languid escarp
infernal depths would be impossible
shy pecan
or you could bring them low and kill them with pots (to not directly kill anything)
... depths would still be impossible tho
quaint bison
Don't magma worms still sometimes suicide for no reason? That could work.
shy pecan
you’re right, i actually had an overloading worm suicide in depths a few days ago
... dropping 16 warhorns because of multiplayer and mountain shrines :u
hard yacht
@cyan stratus i try your method, but like. random wisp shots and and magma worm boss
it sucks
cyan stratus
go fast so you dont get magma worm
and if a wisp is about to shoot you, just dont get hit
hard yacht
ive gotten magma one time out of like
5 times of getting to 2nd stage successfully
i usually get hit while fighting the golem when im in between combos
cyan stratus
if you go max speed there shouldn't even be wisps spawning during the fight
hard yacht
im going as fast as your thing is and they spawn around half health and dink me
cyan stratus
then just make the titan bodyblock for you or lose aggro with the drones
cyan stratus
just edit it in at that rate
hard yacht
nah i dont wanna do that
im almost about to do that with arti and the Chunked! challenge cause that is dumb
cyan stratus
i mean you shouldn't be having any trouble getting to stage 2
hard yacht
nah most times its just random bad shit on stage 2
stage 1 is only an issue some of the time because of a random lemurian fireball that was shot in the air for some reason or a wisp spawning
i have all the drones and hell even bought the turret next to the teleporter and they go for me
cyan stratus
then just literally go inside the titan so they can't hit you
they should die to the drones before phase 2 so you're safe
slim lintel
chunked is also stupidly easy just use newts and get a couple glass + dream of snow map for a preon and boom done
shy dagger
you don't even need glass either, crowbars, or armor piercing rounds will also get the job done with preon
occular hud also could work
lime pulsar
What about glass, crowbars and ap all at once so you can kill the boss with a fireball?
tough belfry
why would you do that when you can preon
shy pecan
((loud obnoxious music warning))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4C-WVruDmM
i like this seed a lot
you can probably get to below 2:05 with the route, i've gotten as low as 53s s1
and i also didn't pick up the atg before firing ballista at the wisps so an atg proc would have greatly sped up the fight because ballista shots deal 900%
plus general struggles with huntress targeting
slim lintel
whomst speedruns trials anymore
torpid shell
I know there's no actual reward for it (yet) but isn't speedrunning the trials the whole point
quaint bison
Yes. But it gets discouraging when first 5-10 are hackers.
torpid shell
fair
slim lintel
It gets kinda old when trials have literally been unchanged for coming up on a year
well like 3/4th a year
cyan stratus
timer stopping between levels and at the end of a run, improved ui graphics, and rex meta shift are changes
also i think crystals are slightly more pink now
slim lintel
I mean like actual content not minor tweaks/fixes and byproducts like characters/stages. Like different objectives, different modifiers etc
I hope when they add artifacts they randomly enable 1-2 of those as well each trial
slim lintel
Ok it's gonna be pretty lit if Dirca is good at trials
shy pecan
they’d have to buff his dot a lot
but if they keep epidemic and it can spread between crystals 👀
slim lintel
lmao skills interacting properly with crystals yeah right
huntress boomer' wont even bounce between crystals
I feel like acrid isnt going to be very melee this time around. Maybe a spitball of acid idk
shy pecan
my pessimistic prediction is that even if he gets enough damage to keep up with the plant
he’ll never have enough mobility cause of the chains and whatnot
slim lintel
acrid could be a zoomer with is acid pool if they give him something like that we'll see but rex has probably ruined trials forever
unless hopoo actually listens to anyone in here and adds char leaderboards
or locking each trial to 1 char which they def wont do now that the dumbass merc challenge exists
shy pecan
zoomer acrid wew
character leaderboards don’t fix the cheating but it would still be progress
pls hoppo 🙏
slim lintel
just ignore cheaters they don't matter, it would give you a reason to play anything but rex
proper flume
loader's r doesn't even zap crystals 😠
timber sphinx
@slim lintel how do you think rex can get 1:40
shy pecan
bc cabbage & iforgotwho exist
timber sphinx
just because he can snipe the crystals it works for huntress aswell with the ballista
shy pecan
1:40 every trial is hyperbolic but rex still dominates the pt meta
slim lintel
why tf does cabbage get all the credit I'm a better rex than him like 50% of the time
shy pecan
ur right
it's just whenever i think of plant
cabbage pops into my head
(anyhow ballista is lovely but its cd is much much longer than rex's m2)
loud sparrow
whenever i think of prismatic trials i think of jumping off bridges
shy pecan
on a side note why can i not damage control as rex
does weaken affect crystals?
i fuck them up constantly when i'm prepping them to boost
proper flume
I honestly can't think of many trials that rex can't get a 1:40 on
timber sphinx
try this one
timber sphinx
you can not beat the huntress with rex no way
proper flume
observe
timber sphinx
proper flume
just happened to me
also yeah, pretty sure rex is faster than huntress @timber sphinx
not sure if I really needed the preon btw. may have lost time going for it but I'm really not sure
slim lintel
omfg I used m1 instead of m2 and every single one procced runald and still ruined it wtf
also sub 1:40 on the way
timber sphinx
how come rex is faster I dont understand
proper flume
his damage output is insane
timber sphinx
can u record it
proper flume
I mean
proper flume
you'd get more out of it if iforgotwho recorded their run tbh
timber sphinx
but preon is the fastest way for huntress tbf
proper flume
I can usually only come within a few seconds of iforgotwho and cabbage. they're just better than me lmao
I mean, rex could just skip preon and still kill way faster
it's just what rex does
slim lintel
meh not sub 1:40 but close enough def can get a 1:35 with better play
proper flume
expected
timber sphinx
m1+m2 takes more time on crystals
slim lintel
I'll only record cool trials like the chain vase and if loader actually does well at this point
timber sphinx
yeah Im animation canceling and spamming
proper flume
did you get the preon for your 1:42 btw?
slim lintel
generally with crystals (this trial is a bit of an exception) you just use m2 on crystals and sprint cancel it so you lose no time
yeah
slim lintel
yeah this trial poopy doo doo caca
proper flume
can't quite make out what's really the fastest way. really awkward crystals
slim lintel
I just jump off the cliff on the the lil bridge thingy kill the 2 crystals to the left then b-line preon and kill the crystal out the crate to the left on the way to the tele s1
timber sphinx
I really would like to see your REX runs
slim lintel
click mine or cabbages (you'll have to go through a lot of merc challenge bs with cabbage) discord profile and check our youtubes to see how its done we have plenty of vids
this is what I meant by chain vase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSTLeMhh83o
skip to stage 2
this trial was absolute trash and rex could STILL get sub 2min
proper flume
yeah pretty sure I could sub 2 mins this trial but
I really just don't feel like grinding this one at all
it's far from the worst
Blazing stone titan and dune strider are just 2 of my least favorite bosses
slim lintel
ye not a fun trial hate it when the crystals are laid out so far apart and awkwardly
I mean dunestrider kinda just pops up says hi and dies
timber sphinx
crystals are too far away so I cant m2 😦
slim lintel
gotta kinda walk towards them a bit, I call this tactic getting in range
proper flume
were you popping preon on boss 1 or 2 btw?
slim lintel
boss 1
slim lintel
I think technically s2 preon is better unless s1 is a dune
proper flume
skipping the succ is too good
slim lintel
I mean rex can always skip suck because he can do max dps from out of its range
then you move in to make it go up before it hits the threshold to succ
proper flume
I mean yeah but bypassing the succ while standing right on the teleporter 🙂
slim lintel
slim lintel
I mean with good timing you'll end up on the tele as it dies
cyan stratus
we actually running trials again?
cyan stratus
i'll do some runs when i get home
proper flume
imagine running trials
slim lintel
just showing a newbie the ropes
proper flume
I just like to lurk around this channel
I only booted the game because this one guy said rex couldn't beat huntress
slim lintel
same
cyan stratus
i mean if you scroll down on my channel you can see like 50 rex runs
slim lintel
too much merc challenge couldnt find any real content
proper flume
rex runs? those aren't merc challenges 😠
slim lintel
he's almost got as many merc challenge runs as trial speedruns now
cyan stratus
also idk where to say this but thanks everyone for 100 subs
actually means a lot to me
slim lintel
dirty subs
proper flume
sub to cabbage
slim lintel
dirty merc subs
its crazy how much it grew your channel though
shame our super optimized perfect speedruns never got that kind of attention
cyan stratus
yea i put 10x more effort on mult and rex runs but my merc runs get 100x more views
also nobody watched my run from 12/4 even though it was the hardest merc run i've done so far
slim lintel
lmao
proper flume
it's always the things you put less effort in that actually get attention for whatever reason
slim lintel
guess which one is my shitty merc challenge vid with weeb music blasting over it
my loader run deserves those views that run was sick
slim lintel
people don't appreciate true art
proper flume
I made a shitty remix of a song a few years years ago and it got like 7 times the views of a world record that I used to have. nobody cares about obscure speedruns 😦
cyan stratus
i mean i speedrun a very obscure game and people actually watched it for some reason
slim lintel
proper flume
what game tho
slim lintel
we were here
cyan stratus
check my channel (:
cyan stratus
patched
shy pecan
huntress may deal 0 damage but her s1 clear is really smooth this trial 👀
i'll try and get an actual run
s2 is a mess
slim lintel
Arti with alt m2 probably has a faster m1 than huntress
shy pecan
OK
((loud obnoxious music warning)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJEhGlYIJR4
i think it'd be hard to get much faster without really good rng
bc i got that sweet sweet double ballista proc
could definitely shave seconds off titan if it didn't burn everything to a crisp just for getting in a 10m radius of it
cyan stratus
yikes 2:44 that's like a full length movie
shy pecan
ye huntress slow
shy pecan
it comes free if you watch the ballista proc
i'm pretty sure it's 1k damage in under a second
cyan stratus
wow imagine that
proper flume
now, loader procs? those are the real deal
timber sphinx
@shy pecan U could have saved more time if you would ve used your accumulator on first stage