i'd say we gift cabbage nitro for a year
#prismatic-trials
past inlet
cyan stratus
please subscribe to my channel, 1 sub = 1 nitro
nocturne elk
1 sub = 1 second of nitro
steady peak
@cyan stratus mate your mercenary movement in that video looks crisp as fuck 
cyan stratus
just gotta be aware of your cooldowns
also the faster you go the less problems you have with wisps sniping you
sharp grove
past inlet
nice
indigo snow
nice
slim lintel
nice
elfin plinth
nice
soft acorn
nice
viscid trail
nice
sly lynx
nice
crisp plaza
nice
little wadi
nice
rare carbon
nice
glass lily
nice
coarse tree
nice
round stratus
nice
tough belfry
nice
mortal halo
nice
zenith plinth
nice
rough copper
does anyone have any tips on how to finish this mercenary challenge
because i swear this is the hardest thing to do
cyan stratus
yes
viscid lintel
watched the video thirty times did the level thirty times and I am getting shot by wisps so fucking fast it's unbelievable
they spawn and shoot, no delay
but when i watch cabbage they kinda chill and look at him like...suh dude
lol
cyan stratus
you hear a sound if they're aggro or not
viscid lintel
right! and sometimes they aggro or not and that video you posted shows what happens when three don't aggro at once xD
you did great in that run! I'm just getting railed with timing I guess
slim lintel
seed changes in 10 mins
viscid lintel
yeah
cyan stratus
if they aggro you use iframes, if they dont you just chill
it's just about what sounds you hear
play with volume etc
viscid lintel
ye, I try, it honestly just feels unlucky, like they are spawning over my head and aggro immediately
feels* being the operative word there
cyan stratus
if you always do the same route and go at max speed you get the same spawns at similar places each run. if you go at some arbitrary pace you have to react to spawns rather than knowing them ahead of time
that's why you just have to go fast so you know what's coming
viscid lintel
yup and I can't get them to spawn in consistent locations
I get a regualr pace going and then it changes
meh, always next seed
dusty panther
hmm. may I ask if the current seed is viable for the mercenary challenge? I've been having so much trouble wit hit
dusty panther
well yeah that's the point, but I dunno. I must be bad at mercenary or something. usually it's those hitscan fire things that get me
slim lintel
This trial is eh for the challenge not too bad. Just pick up brainstalks s1 and s2 you can kill a small elite beetle and spam R the whole fight basically
steady peak
if you dont cheese the second boss fight, then you might aswell pick up both gunner drones
helps tremendously with wisp aggro on stage 1 and even 2
cyan stratus
where are they ?
steady peak
well, there's 1 gunner and 2 med drones on stage 1, which help with aggro in the first boss fight
slim lintel
tf is this
cyan stratus
good one devs
slim lintel
happened twice in a row
soft acorn
cabbage almost got shot by one on his run, literally all 3 shots just missed
@viscid lintel dont use your shift for mobility, save it for taking wisps out
tepid lagoon
rocky delta
how do people complete this in one minute?
slim lintel
sprinting helps, also shooting the bosses
cyan stratus
2nd run, i think this can be a 1:35 or so
maybe faster idk
can be faster i forgot lv4
rocky delta
Damn you guys are fast
wooden vortex
Ignore items and play rex
soft acorn
jeez man...
video?
i dont know how to optimise it sub 1:50
no clue how you squeeze 22 sec
cyan stratus
wasn't recording but if i feel like it i can record later
viscid trail
does cabbage redo ethereal for fun 😳
viscid trail
lol
cyan stratus
yea ok good job on beating my 4th run
slim lintel
this was my 1st run in that exact minute
I'm sure you'll have it beat by the time its done uploading
it might be faster to just run more towards the tele s2 idk I didnt really play around with it much
cyan stratus
ur dmg is weird
cyan stratus
i turned on macro to see if my mashing was just bad and u still beat me in dmg
slim lintel
Im not macroing
cyan stratus
i activate s1 at 19.5, you do a bit later
with macro i get 45.5 pause
maybe the most optimal mashing isn't with macro
slim lintel
I hit it at 19.5 or damn close to it
proper flume
Yeah is there some sort of trick i'm missing on damage? Because I felt like I was losing so much time to the titan kill
I usually don't do trials with rex
slim lintel
I did feel like during that run the kill was oddly fast
proper flume
or in general
cyan stratus
well i just mashed normally and got 45.1 pause so i think my macro is busted
don't think i'll beat your time, dmg too low
im like 0.3 seconds off you
slim lintel
did you jump off the crystal s2 like me or did you decide just running and poofing up was better
also on the damage thing are you using the alt skin? It's currently bugged and ups your firerate by 10%
slim lintel
saying please dont beat it is like me making a video, you know I gotta do it to em
when I beat you I'll remember to put my soothing plant vibrations audio over the video, i forgot to do that
cyan stratus
ok but that time is unbeatable
slim lintel
idk mine felt sloppy and you only beat me by .12
cyan stratus
it had 45.1sec s1 and a revolutionary s2 strat
slim lintel
my s1 was 44.46 tho
cyan stratus
no it wasn't
slim lintel
yeah it was
cyan stratus
no it wasn't
slim lintel
it was though I'm looking at it rn
cyan stratus
imagine trusting your own eyes
slim lintel
ok jaden smith
slim lintel
I'd get better and get a 43.46
is your revolutionary s2 strat just running to tele instead of crystal jumping or using the geyser
cyan stratus
my s2 strat is going with me to the grave
slim lintel
wow what happened to the spirit of trials, sharing strats rip spirit of trials is dead
cyan stratus
i can't afford to share strats in these desparate times
slim lintel
smh can you at least confirm if it was one of the strats I mentioned because I'll probably be too lazy to test both
cyan stratus
the truth is idk what is fastest
innovation is born not from those who mindlessly follow others
in other words go find what's fastest yourself lmao
slim lintel
til rex's M2 can kill you under unknown circumstances
also I'm about to just give up I'm doing the same shit as early but all my s1's are like 46s
ugh your strat is a jellyfish boost isnt it
relatable clip
proper flume
the crits always happen when you don't want them
slim lintel
yeap
steady peak
@slim lintel also on the damage thing are you using the alt skin? It's currently bugged and ups your firerate by 10%
do you have any proof of this? im putting 2 quick recordings side by side with matched frames right after spawn, and they seem to be exactly the same speed
atleast for LMB
slim lintel
nah I was just shitposting and trying to get cabbage to waste his time unlocking it
slim lintel
soft acorn
tfw you can do two stages in 1.5minutes but haven't done 7 on monsoon
mellow mesa
@slim lintel 
willow crest
inb4 it's just prismatic trials over and over again~
cyan stratus
@slim lintel yea i realized there was a 99% chance of you baiting me
didn't stop me from trying it anyways
also that clip isn't relatable because i don't wait until the 1st barrel to use boost
slim lintel
what barrel do you grab
we hit tele at basically the same time so it really doesnt matter
cyan stratus
i boost, then grab barrel then boost again
soft acorn
the jelyfish kills are slowing your exit a bit but i got no clue how you can avoid that @slim lintel
slim lintel
if you're getting multiple boosts idk how our activation times are so similar, also no jellies died afaik affter I activated tele
cyan stratus
if a jellyfish suicides you get no gold so it doesn't matter
cyan stratus
since nobody else is gonna do it https://youtu.be/NivGYorw0ak
cyan stratus
sometimes you get burnt anyways lol
misty zealot
mellow mesa
orchid marsh
I hope we get a good trial again for the Merc challenge :(
It's gonna bug me being the only thing left to unlock
steady peak
i never bothered to check, but when exactly do the trials reset?
slim lintel
every 3rd friday
cyan stratus
every 4320 minutes
tepid whale
the merc Prismatic challenge oh so much fun
steady peak
yeah, getting wisp ptsd is amazing
slim lintel
beat cabbage for me
long prairie
whos first btw?
proper flume
and saving 5 seconds seems impossible for me
I'm not nearly practiced enough at these trials
I could probably grind for hours and not beat it tbh
My movement is just a little too sloppy, and you guys seem to output way more damage somehow
steady peak
@long prairie probably cabbage, unless there's another rex right infront of him. all other times on the leaderboards top x that arent rex are guaranteed cheaters anyway
proper flume
nah cabbage is definitely at the top
long prairie
and why is that? I wonder
proper flume
no doubt
long prairie
I mean I though that Rex is an underdog
proper flume
steady peak
because you can cheat and rex is by far the fastest character
like, its not even close how much better rex is in prismatic
proper flume
cabbage's time is the fastest. even rex can't get a 1:20
steady peak
@long prairie rex is only an "underdog" in normal monsoon because his performance is inconsistent. if you wanna do the maximum dps the character allows, you'll be at very low health all the time, which means you gotta do less damage or just get wiped by a trashmob
unless you can grind out the same exact seed untill you get a godlike run which... well, thats prismatic trials
proper flume
it's more a matter of damage being the only relevant thing in trials
and rex does the most by far
steady peak
thats what i said
proper flume
not really
long prairie
Wait, the items arent consistent in one seed?
proper flume
They are
long prairie
Hm gotta try it when ill know the game better :v
proper flume
that's it
i'm content now
I've come within like 3-4 seconds
That run had my best stage 1,and I still only left at 46.50ish
zenith plinth
depends
if there are equipment chests, its always worth it to pick it up
if you get missle battery
or capacitor or preon
proper flume
Just rush mostly
zenith plinth
yea
arti is good for rushing
so is engi, but engi is less of a risk
so i would always reccomend arti
proper flume
iforgotwho posted a rex 1:28 the other day if you wanna see a good run
zenith plinth
nice
tough belfry
i don't think i've seen a good engi run
zenith plinth
well, i dont play trials, but he is good for rushing bosses in normal modes
proper flume
Loader can be the best on very certain trials
zenith plinth
yea
zenith plinth
same thing
proper flume
Yeah and loader is just good for trials where you gotta go a long way and all the crystals are pretty streamlined
slim lintel
why cant I find either of our videos for that cool vase strat trial where we used the chain, that was the coolest use of an equipment yet
slim lintel
nah bugs like that are lame
proper flume
I think they're pretty cool, but to each their own
I think abusing glitches for speedrunning can be pretty sick
but I'm glad to see it patched
steady peak
in the context of speedrunning, glitches are just tech
slim lintel
I like bugs in speedruns a lot but the mult thing was just lame
steady peak
maybe as long as its not some overflow garbage that allows people to get 0secnd times or something
tough belfry
the thing i don't like about big glitches like that is that it reduces the need for routing
steady peak
wat
slim lintel
so rex is a big glitch?
tough belfry
yes
proper flume
rex was definitely an unintended mechanic
steady peak
except that you still need to route with the glitch in consideration
character individual leaderboards when 
steady peak
rex
proper flume
I mean, rex is the fastest legit time
steady peak
its rex almost every week my dude
steady peak
2nd fastest isnt the fastest so who cares 
proper flume
every run above 16th place on this trial is cheated
there's always a lot of people who cheat the trials for no real reason
proper flume
some sort of anticheat is #1 on my wishlist for trials
no character can beat rex in time on this trial
slim lintel
already been confirmed by devs to never happen
steady peak
ideally they'd just do it like N++ leaderboards
proper flume
I don't see why they're so against an anticheat
steady peak
not worth the money most likely
slim lintel
they're not against it its just too much work for such a niche thing
steady peak
takes a lot of time to build one, for only a hand full of people who'd benefit from it
it'd be a loss in money
they are a company, not a wellfare
gray wigeon
competitive integrity is not high on the list of priorities
not high on mine either tbh
proper flume
Maybe trials won't be such a niche thing if/when they actually give it some sort of purpose
steady peak
in N++ it isnt a problem, runs can be seen by others. new top times are just posted on the discord by a bot so cheaters just get banned from the leader board. simple and effective
slim lintel
seems like a decent time to plug the exclusive friends leaderboard network, feel free to add me on steam if everyone interested in trials in this discord adds eachother we can ignore the global board full of cheaters and use our friend leaderboard
proper flume
that sounds like a pretty fun workaround
past inlet
yeah except none of us will beat u
steady peak
i whouldve assumed that the 4 or so people who care about times already added each other
past inlet
:(
slim lintel
thats quitter talk
proper flume
won't beat them with that attitude
slim lintel
cabbage beat me by .12 second, if he can do it you definitely can 
proper flume
you don't even wanna know how much time I spent on my time
past inlet
i spent like forever getting the ethereal challenge, and cabbage does it every rotation
proper flume
I still don't know how you left the first stage at 44.50 tbh
legit 2 whole seconds faster than my best stage 1
most of the time loss is on the boss itself
slim lintel
artisan puff jumps are my secret sauce
proper flume
I'ma try and see if I can't snag the top spot next trial
doubt it but i'ma see how close I can get
slim lintel
👀 woah someones tryin maybe me and cabbage are gonna go sicko mode
proper flume
please
i'm probably gonna come within like 4 seconds and not be able to go any faster
slim lintel
It'll just be nice to have someone actually trying for once, you'll get better
proper flume
only way I don't try next trial is if I absolutely hate it
slim lintel
watch it be cave elder lemurians on red map in to bison snow map
proper flume
slim lintel
I hope we get a trial at some point with the tele right next to the cliff by the water on snow map and we get a cube to suck all the bison off the edge
just to get revenge on those bastards
proper flume
I want a good loader trial
tough belfry
^
slim lintel
A good loader seed is a good rex seed sadly, only way loader gets ahead is with a atg missile or band and then you're relying on that low chance proc
proper flume
More or less. Need a good damage item on your route and you need an exceptionally long distance to travel
and good crystal spawns
that one glass trial a while back could've been good but rex was still slightly faster
loader would be a lot more fun in trials if his R actually damaged crystals
but for some stupid reason it just doesn't do anything to them at all
slim lintel
Yeah, I've played more loader and really enjoy it now but their base damage on bosses is just pathetic. I don't like how proc reliant she is for trials. It's basically crit preon but a proc instead
proper flume
yeah if you hit a good proc on your punch it's hilarious how fast the boss dies
slim lintel
if I did the math right a fully charged punch procing a fire band is %18900 damage in 1 hit
past inlet
bruh
tough belfry
idk how much that is but it was enough to 1 shot a vagrant
slim lintel
considering a preon only does %4000 its...a lot
proper flume
yeah it's pretty insane
rich estuary
Crit shift with Loader
slim lintel
crit punch with shaped glass and fire band 
slim lintel
also my math could be totally wrong as idk how the game calculates the damage
slim lintel
phil_swift.mp4
rich estuary
Bring the obliteration obelisk to your enemies
With the power of Loader shift
Warning: Computer may implode
slim lintel
lmao you spawn underground this trial
if you wait ~5 mins you can get an overloading worm s2 for the commando challenge
lmao glacial hermit crabs
proper flume
🙂
slim lintel
yeaaaah your choices are overloading worm or glacial crabs, you can get the overloading worm earlier if you hit the mountain shrine next to tele
You're not gonna wanna speedrun this trial :/
or do the merc challenge
but if you want the commando challenge (its a really good skill) or need the overloading worm log this may be the trial for you
white siren
It didnt work for the commando achievement, i think because it is an elite magma worm with the overloading prefix rather than an overloading worm with no prefix. So i dont think it would give the overloading worm log either
dusty panther
does this seem like a decent merc challenge trial btw? There's personal shields but I don't know if those will really help
proper flume
sounds like it's awful
white siren
I would recommend against it.
dusty panther
aw. that merc challenge is kind of awful isn't it 😦
slim lintel
oh yeah I forgot prism trials allow weird impossible worms to spawn
dusty panther
sounds like shields count as "health" for the challenge then? I had been thinking sine there was the vase I could get to the newt altar and see about getting a good red item for the second stage? Like a ceremonial dagger to thin things out
but I'd have to go see what's in the store first. eeeh
white siren
i believe that shields count as health for the challenge
slim lintel
you better believe it
steady peak
they do. shields are "health" for the purpose of... almost everything, really
only barrier is seperated from "health"
dusty panther
yeah..I was able to find two brooches but it's nowhere near viable. the items in the shop were an atg missile and the hammer that breaks armor. They did have a gesture of the drowned and a meteor, so I was silly and used those 😛
steady peak
yeah i mean if you can outrange damage sources and cheese it, then thats the easyest way to do the challenge
dusty panther
too bad the meteors hurt you too
steady peak
yeah but you can dodge those
dusty panther
true. too bad the boss was a hoard of many with blazing 😛
slim lintel
if theres a gesture meteor s2 is a joke, if you can get past s1 you got it
viscid trail
thought current seed was gonna be ok until greater wisps showed up 😢
cyan stratus
this seed is hard? guess i'll try it when i get home
i still say every seed is possible
slim lintel
its possible but overloading worm s2 if youre a little slow, and like 30 glacial crabs if you're fast and no equip
cyan stratus
oh nice you spawn underground
slim lintel
top 5 dumbest trials
proper flume
and I was hoping to have fun with this one
slim lintel
ping hopoo and tell him to change the seed
proper flume
cyan stratus
idk if it's worth doing this to prove every seed is doable
proper flume
I mean, i'm sure it's always doable
but sometimes it might be best to just wait a few days for a seed that isn't
this one
slim lintel
this prismatic trial is more like a prismatic vile amirite
cyan stratus
no
tough belfry
so this trial is one to do merc challenge with no items right
umbral falcon
@tough belfry
No, the challenge is to not take a single lick of damage IN THE ENTIRE TRIAL
Also this seed sucks.. First stage with a horde of many (always lovely when we get hit with those) Greater Wisps and second map with an Overloaded Magma Worm.. Managed to get to second stage but the Magma Worm random pattern always fucks with me so I give up.. Back to waiting for the next one and praying it won't be a Blazing boss like the last two..
steady peak
its actually to not have your health (defined as green + shield) drop below 100%
you can take damage if you block it with a barrier, orange shield
umbral falcon
Still hard to maintain tho'.. You would have to be REALLY LUCKY to get Aegis + Foreigner Fruit for insta-shileding or Topaz Brooch and constantly be killing stuff to maintain it and, by experience, Topaz Brooch is only reliable if you 2 or more stacks, just one is simply too little of an armor to make a difference anyway
Or if you manage to get a great run with plenty of good items to do quick damage to stuff.. That works too but luck is a good factor in making this achievement like, as I previously said, not getting a Blazing boss
steady peak
i mean cabbage over here does the challenge on merc like every single trial and posts videos about them
teal skiff
is there a link to those videos? i have yet to attempt this challenge and something like that would be useful
steady peak
check the pins @teal skiff
alternatively just enter in the search bar: "from: cabbage" youtube
or something like that
umbral falcon
Well I ain't like Cabbage over there.. I ain't really good with melee character so it's 60% my fault why I suck at these..
teal skiff
alright thanks
umbral falcon
Also for some reason it changed?
Second boss is no longer an overloaded Lava Worm but Glacial Hermit Crabs.. Now it seems more doable to me, tho' the problem with the crabs is that they keep running away aka wasting time while other enemies spawn
elfin plinth
Diffuculty changes the boss
umbral falcon
Interesting.. Didn't knew taht.. The other 2 tims I tried the boss was always the same, guess I just done them in the same time
pearl eagle
If I understood the previous comments correctly you probably won't unlock it, as it's a normal worm with the overloaded prefix instead of just a normal overladed worm
torpid raptor
Dang
pearl eagle
Yeah, would have been a really nice unlock for those who don't play a lot of base game
or commando for that matter
torpid raptor
I feel like commandos challenges is the hardest by far ;_;
pearl eagle
Yeah, his are kinda annoying to get unless you play on drizzle
slim lintel
the hardest challenge in the game is get 12 crowbars as huntress, because 1. you have to play huntress 2. completely up to random luck getting a crowbar printer after you have 12 white items
pearl eagle
Lmao, actually one of the challenges I haven't completed yet, simply because Huntress is super boring to play and I know it's completely rng
Also the skill is shit as far as I've heard
slim lintel
its the only thing I don't have
and I can't be bothered, I did a 2 hour run as that shitty character and only got up to 8
proper flume
trial's actually kinda fun as loader
minus trying to get all the crabs to behave
actually think he might be faster than rex
for this one
slim lintel
x [doubt]
I almost think rex hitting mountain shrine to get the worm would be faster than weeding out those crabs but idk you'd need good worm rng
slim lintel
idk I have no motivation to do this trial, I cant stand when it spawns you in the cave/tele in the cave
too much running
proper flume
the crystal spawns are high key trash for rex
I can stage 1 way faster as loader even with the boss fight
but it requires a little grappling hook tech to launch yourself the right way
thorny zodiac
lol damn why do they have to make shields count as health
thats so dumb i was just on my second attempt thinking the shield 3D printer was my saving grace for the challenge
slim lintel
this has to be the most unfun trial ever
proper flume
yeah
it's actually not too bad as loader until the stupid crabs
and minus the one trick that just insta fails you stage 1
proper flume
I'm pretty sure I could hit a low 2 as loader with enough work
slim lintel
I'm giving up, sick of resetting 10 times just to get the 1st crystal to send me anywhere
proper flume
Yeah this trial sucks
slim lintel
actual photograph of this trials seed
cyan stratus
what's best time this trial
slim lintel
I almost had a 2:18ish on rex it was sloppy could be better but I died to an imp and gave up
I dont think this trial can be done sub2
cyan stratus
no def not sub2
pure void
i want to get the trials achievement but cant because of these huge magma worms on stage 2
wtf do i do
unique scroll
i would say git gud, but this isnt dark souls and i literally just got the game last night, sooooooo
i kinda have no room to talk on that front XD maybe play as a ranged character and kite em?
cyan stratus
it's easy as rex, just go fast and you get crabs
proper flume
if loader was just had slightly better up front damage
in a skill that wasn't needed for mobility
then these crabs wouldn't be so dumb
bad stage 1 but good crab fight
if I had a good stage one, that'd be like a 2:13 probably
I could've been like 10 seconds faster stage 1
slim lintel
I really don't understand why crab HoM is even a thing that can happen. Not a single one is even in or near the tele range
proper flume
damn it man
i got a 52 second stage 1
and then choked so hard stage 2
this loader trick is so inconsistent lmao
I thought I had down where they were gonna spawn then it changed up on me
oh well 2:21 is prob my best time for the day
slim lintel
I can't believe you're playing this hell trial at all
proper flume
Hey it's not that bad for loader until the 2nd boss fight
and I doubt i'd fare better vs the work
worm*
slim lintel
worms probably not worth it idk I'd have to compare their HP's. The crabs theres 3 of them that spawn right next to eachother you can probably one punch and rex can group them up for basically triple damage on his m2 so I think that alone might make crabs better. Also worm was always super rng if it was ever to work due to its AI
proper flume
You can only one punch the 3 glacial crabs if you build up enough momentum with the grappling hook
and sometimes one just decides not to be clumped up
it's just so dumb
slim lintel
🦀 trial 🦀 trial🦀
steady peak
trial and error 
proper flume
this trial is an error
kindred hull
yo this trial is ♋
proper flume
yeah loader can leave stage 1 of this trial really fast
if I hadn't fucked up on stage 2, I could've been right at 2 mins
proper flume
yeah crab spawns are terrible
if I get a good exit stage 1 and good rng
I can probably get a sub 2
but I genuinely can't be bothered
tough belfry
what's the strat stage 1
proper flume
just some goofy tech that I know about with the grappling hook that you can use to bounce all the way to the two crystals on the other side of the map
I could probably record it later
but even with a godly stage 1, to get a good time you gotta play really good stage two, while also getting really lucky on the crab spawns
it's not a fun trial
autumn glade
can a radio scanner spawn in prismatic trial? 
autumn glade
I mean radio scanner - the thing which gives you the log, not radar scanner
thin timber
But... that would make the trial a bit different for players who already have the environment log and those who don't 🤔
autumn glade
true
thin timber
Cause Radio Scanner doesn't spawn if you have the log, and that would influence the other spawns
autumn glade
so the answer is no
elfin plinth
If it affectz the it won't spawn i think
thin timber
I'm not saying it's not a possibility, they might not have thought of that and just left it in 🤷
icy urchin
is it possible for a radio scanner to spawn during a pt?
elfin plinth
thin timber
Eh, now that I think about it, it might just get replaced by a Shrine of Gold for players that already have the log, and not affect the other spawns 🤔
autumn glade
thin timber
Has there ever been a Shrine of Gold in a Prismatic Trial?
elfin plinth
I would think a no because aure seems too powerful?
thin timber
Well, it wouldn't be the best time for the trial, I'm pretty sure about that 😄 But just in general, if it even spawned ever
thin timber
I did it on the 2x Brooch + Tesla Coil one, only took like 3 hours of grinding
autumn glade
same ^
tough belfry
i can get to the stage 1 teleporter in a decent time but idk what to do for the boss
ok nvm i think i found what to do
queen orbit
How long is a trial usually? I'm unfortunate enough to still have a item locked because I need to "Complete" a trial to unlock it.
tawdry copper
very short. trials are 2 stages long, and teleporter events end immediately after the boss is killed
the only extra time you need to spend is breaking the crystals so the teleporter can be activated
queen orbit
Oh, thank you very much. Now I know what to do next time I try it. Thank you @tawdry copper
tawdry copper
👌
queen orbit
tough belfry
~45 second s1 should be possible without crits rng but i can't get it 
cyan stratus
both radio scanner and gold shrine have spawned before, spawns are always same for all players
thin timber
Welp, thank you for the information 😄 Also please ping if there are ever Scanners on Scorched Acres or Siren's Call in a trial
cyan stratus
no
raw timber
im trying to get the artificer 1 second kill
but i dont think thats possible with only a crowbar printer
slim lintel
arti has some cool tech s1 but the lemurian fight is nearly impossible to do with any efficiency
proper flume
It's vagrant stage t2 so maybe merc can do something
but the elder lemurian fight isn't fun at all as merc
slim lintel
as arti you can hide in the little tunnel and they all group up and cant hit you lol, but it takes to long to get there kill them then get back
proper flume
rex just does it all
slim lintel
rex is better than sex
cyan stratus
zenith plinth
is it even worth getting that skill?
elfin plinth
No,the only thing it does is giving you a range skill but taking a big iframe attack
past inlet
And a dash too
steady peak
it does have aoe tho
the original merc r splits its damage between the available targets. the new one can hit up to 3 at the same time and doesnt split
past inlet
Doesn't make up for lack of iframes and dash
proper flume
that skill needs a buff
slim lintel
it also doesnt scale with atk speed like default so it starts out worse and gets worse the longer you go in a run
steady peak
from what i know, it does scale but not as high as the old r?
to me, it makes obliteration runs a lot more consistent, which as i see it, is what the game is going to be in length once we have the actual ending of the game.
mellow mesa
tough belfry
1:45 merc should be possible
proper flume
I can't yeet the vagrant as merc for some reason
Is there a way to do it consistently?
tough belfry
no
it works better in some areas than others
but other than that it's inconsistent
proper flume
I really just couldn't get it
with how hellish stage 1 can be, I don't see myself trying to yeet the vagrant
soft acorn
anyone tried to bodlyslam-yeet vagrants with rex? you can already push HoM, dunestriders and Gravebois around with the boop
zenith plinth
are unlocking challenges disabled in prismatic trials?
been trying to have an overloading worm spawn for rolling thunder and the one I killed didnt work
pearl eagle
They do, but prismatic trial is weird with the magma worms sometimes. That overloading worm is a magma worm with the prefix overloading and not an actual overloading worm
zenith plinth
oh you know it was an overloading regular magma worm
I forgot the overloading worm shoots lightning
umbral falcon
The stage one of this trial is alright.. Accumulator right at the beginning with some good loot nearby, if you manage to line the shot of the Accumulator well you can even noot the Horde of Elder Lemurians in one shot, tho' that requires some luck and can be risky, the problem comes with the damn second stage.. No loot worth taking and the portal is in a terrible spot between the cave and the open area while the boss is the Magma Worm.. You either dive in the cave where the worm can just go from floor to ceiling and vice-versa or go to the open space where Jellyfishes and Alloy Vultures spawn.. I hate Magma Worm for these challenges, too random of a pattern too not screw up and the Accumulator doesn't help much either when it takes forever to charge and shot.. Still I gonna keep trying..
cyan stratus
?
umbral falcon
Man I also use those turrets but everytime I do they just.. Suck..
Man I am terrible at this..
umbral falcon
Yeaah, I give up.. This skill isn't even worth all that trouble..
soft acorn
Take the newt on s1 and switch stages
umbral falcon
Nah I just suck.. I mean, I managed to get the Vagrant on stage 2 but I ALWAYS fuck up somehow..
zenith plinth
isn't the newt altar not available today
it's not on the crystal or in the cubby hole
so it has to be in the tunnel, but the tunnel is blocked off
soft acorn
Could be, I didn't check
tough belfry
it's not as if you can't get in there
you can easily just dash through, then there is an altar
tough belfry
probably not worth it though
zenith plinth
also PSA to not grind for the golden chest, it's just a wake of the vultures
tough belfry
yeah it's not worth it
cyan stratus
this is like the easiest seed idk why y'all talking about newt altars and whatnot
proper flume
The dudes won't group the right way for me
hard iris
Finally got chunked! Thanks to this one
zenith plinth
congrats!
umbral falcon
I hate myself.. I always fuck up for the SMALLEST things..
Manage to one shot all Elder Lemurians with the P.Accumulator BUT i was too high and took fall damage..
Managed to kill the Vagrant BUT in my way to hit the teleporter I got hit by a Jellyfish..
Melee characters really aren't my thing..
umbral falcon
FUUUCK I GOT SO GODAMN CLOSE,DAMN THESE JELLYFISHES CLIPPING THROUGH THE BOSS!
oH I am getting closer! Almost did it again but got hit by a Brass Contraption..
umbral falcon
YES I FINALLY DID IT!!
God I am still shaking.. I even missed the teleport by the end and almost got hit by the vultures, I would hate myself to death if I messed it up there
tough belfry
nice
rose briar
I know the feel MhicKy
zenith plinth
did you do it on the 5 elder lemurians or 1 blazing elder lemurian on the first stage seed
rocky yoke
You guys are lucky i keep getting the overloading magma worm in sirens call lol
I get through the first stage fairly easily, then boom magma worm
I also was working on the infinite fireworks trick, perch yourself up on that chained platform with the fireworks machine turn in everything for fireworks and boom profit since you can keep recycling your fireworks to shoot out more fireworks endlessly
Pick up the brooch after you are done
umbral falcon
@zenith plinth
Sorry the delay to answer, I fought the 5 Elder Lemurians, got myself lined up and yeeted them with one P.Accumulator shot, second stage I rushed to get the Vagrant and just "nested" on top of her while avoiding the wind attacks from the Vultures until the P.Accumulator was ready again and finished it off, then I rushed to the teleporter, missed it, panicked a little, returned, dodged a few attacks that almost made me have a heart attack and hit it this time
broken storm
GG @umbral falcon
umbral falcon
@rocky yoke
I suggest you watch Cabbage's video and work from there, that's what I did, no shame here, I copied the guy run except that I got the Goat Leg near one of the crystals while he ignored it.. You gotta get the Vagrant second stage, the Magma Worm pattern is just too random and make it impossible to do it..
broken storm
It's still the same boss ??
umbral falcon
I've been told by someone here that the boss changes according to the time you activate the teleporter, if you be quick enough you can get 5 Elder Lemurians on stage1 and 1 Overloading Vagrant on stage2
rocky yoke
Ah that makes sense
umbral falcon
Also, I managed to finish my run in 4:20..
umbral falcon
I didn't actually tried to get 4:20, it just came this way..
Not really "fast" tho' I was mostly just saying cuz, yunno, 420 memes..
But I gotta say, if you guys want to get this challenge done, this seed is perfect for it..
broken storm
i finish in 19:19 😂
zenith plinth
yeah, if you wait on stage 1, you get a blazing elder lemurian instead
umbral falcon
I prefer the 5 instead, one well lined up shot of the P.Accumulator can one shot them while the Blazing just tanks it
broken storm
with wihch item ?
umbral falcon
Preon Accumulator
broken storm
and ?
umbral falcon
It's right on the beginning of stage one
broken storm
just P.A
umbral falcon
Well it can one shot the first boss..
If you manage to lure them to a choke and shot it
When it comes to use items I prefer the Royal Capacitor just because of the spammable cooldown but the P.A is pretty good for that situation
broken storm
and satge 2 ?
umbral falcon
Tho' in Cabbage's video I don't see why he didn't got the Goat Hoof in his way OR the Runald Band instead of the drone
Stage 2 you gotta be fast to get the Vagrant and "mount it"
Stay in it's head and it can't attack you
But watch out for the Vultures cuz their "wind blades" go through the boss
Again, better watch Cabbage's video, I just did a shittier version of what he did
eternal marlin
cyan stratus
i didnt grab items bc usually you can 1shot the jellyfish & i didnt wanna waste time and allow stuff to spawn
buoyant oxide
guys
im trying to do the current prismatic trial, but I dont seemm to do good damage against the jelly
I'm using Loader
wtf
top 1 did 59 seconds?
how?
slim lintel
slim lintel
With god tier seeds the fastest legit time in a trial is around 1:23~ I think and this seed is far from god tier
broken storm
with loader ?
buoyant oxide
im new to the game, i have only 16 hours, but I think I got a decent score, although I feel I can improve it a lot. I kinda manage to kill relatively fast the first dragons, but I'm not sure how to kill the jelly fish properly.
I got 3:15, is there any video of a good time from current seed?
broken storm
idk
slim lintel
rex is generally the best 99% of the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hmjzfPf738 heres a video from a trial a little over a week ago should give you an idea of how to fast go
broken storm
😮
slim lintel
you beat it by .12 seconds and I would have been faster but fat fingered a jump that lost a ton of time before activating s2 tele to leave
what was your "secret strat" btw I never figured out what you were doing
cyan stratus
lol i just used the geyser
slim lintel
figured
cyan stratus
it failed 50% of the time though and i didn't know if it was faster
but i liked the idea of you trying to get jellyfish to align perfectly
slim lintel
I tried that a grand total of 1 time before I said frick that
cyan stratus
lol you never know
buoyant oxide
Are you guys gonna do the current seed by any chance? Im interested in what approach you take
cyan stratus
yea i can't be bothered to get a 1:35 but it should be possible
if someone beats my time i guess i'll try
slim lintel
is it still the elder lemurian s1 trial
buoyant oxide
You are top 1 right now cabbage?
cyan stratus
nah just go play commando and beat the 59 sec run
cyan stratus
idk maybe
slim lintel
lolno
cyan stratus
yea you're probably right
buoyant oxide
Either 6 days or 6 hours lol
slim lintel
hours, seeds change every 3 days
cyan stratus
thought it was every week?
slim lintel
cyan stratus
🙃
buoyant oxide
I think with loader, like once I managed to kill the dragons in like 50, but then I dont know what to do against the jelly
Its like my punches go through kt
Not sure if thats how it works
zenith plinth
loader is a plant character, because she has that 🍑
buoyant oxide
Ive never played rex actually, just unlocked her/him/it yesterday
Seems interesting, but I have zero idea how to play properly
slim lintel
only real gamers remember when arti was the best
broken storm
😂 😂
buoyant oxide
Is there a tier list?
slim lintel
turn on soft particles you dingo
cyan stratus
i dont wanna
cyan stratus
wtf how you have pink name
slim lintel
cyan stratus
i dont go to any channels but this one
slim lintel
for the best this discord sucks
hard iris
wait why was the second boss a vagrant
it was a worm for me every time, are there special conditions which change that ?
zenith plinth
time i assume
hard iris
welp, time to tryhard the trial for science
slim lintel
there we go orange 
buoyant oxide
So is any of the ones above you legit?
slim lintel
negative
buoyant oxide
I would try rex later, ill try to do kinda the same you did, but itll be mistake after mistake
cyan stratus
nobody actually tries to do trials fast, anyone can get fastest time by default lol
cyan stratus
these days it's only people trying merc challenge
pearl eagle
For the most part
buoyant oxide
I see, how hard would be to do it on this seed?
tough belfry
just do merc challenge fast
slim lintel
hey that red charge fella been goin' pretty hard
pearl eagle
Atleast there aren't any crabs going off in the chat, so PTs aren't dead, just not what they used to be
little wadi
yo @cyan stratus , you can now get the Rex role
cyan stratus
yea i can
soft acorn
@slim lintel arti should be chrome?? This colour makes her seem petty : '(
slim lintel
I mean its kinda like time crystal pink, would be cool if arti was worth a shit in trials still
cyan stratus
ok got ethereal this trial
slim lintel
loader would be better than rex this trial
if loader could kill dunestriders worth a shit
Ok I think there might be something to getting the cd reduction red item with loader but I'm too lazy to do it
cyan stratus
zealous steppe
cyan stratus
np
cyan stratus
yes
mellow mesa
little wadi
it was the Royall Capacitor Procing
still ice
Cabbage is a god.
zenith plinth
can you take shaped glass to get ethereal, or does that count as taking damage?
thin timber
You can take it
zenith plinth
aight, i did it
phew
i could upload it but it wasn't nearly as flashy as cabbage's run, so what's the point
verbal axle
What did cabbage do
pearl eagle
Ethereal on pretty much every PT seed, also goes fast sometimes
verbal axle
You just need a brooch right
pearl eagle
It sure helps having one
verbal axle
And since everyone plays on the same seed the chests always have the same loot
pearl eagle
yup, but some seeds are a lot worse than others
pearl eagle
One challenge for completing it once to get the scythe, one challenge for merc skill
And other than that, honor and glory
dusty jetty
cyan stratus
np
vocal cove
YES TY A LOT!
haughty peak
If someone find a seed to make the mercenario challenge
slim lintel
ok
viscid trail
is this seed good for ethereal?
slim lintel
the real question is, is ethereal good for this seed
viscid trail
😦
well i watched the cabbage vid
looks doable 😮
wait...how did cabbage do so much damage
did they get super lucky with the runald band ?
to clay dunestrider 😟
zenith plinth
I think his royal cap crit
zenith plinth
i've tried a few attempts, nowhere near half the dunestriders hp from the royal
cyan stratus
kjaro + runald proc on lightning
if you don't get it just run to some high ground and wait
i could make a new video where i dont get lucky but you literally have to do what i did with the jellyfish
zenith plinth
had alot of wisp spawns when i tried to stall
cyan stratus
they dont spawn if you go high enough
even if they did spawn you could just dash through them and stack brooch
slim lintel
cabbage keeps making these videos but when is he gonna start hopping in the prismatic trial voice chat and do personalized walkthroughs of the challenge for everyone
zenith plinth
you can keep hiding from the dunestrider until capacitator is recharged
if you go down below, he's going to follow you, but he has to circle around the entire map to get back up
giving you easy capacitor shots
zenith plinth
Managed to beat it using cabbages video. Only have 15 hours so it’s doable
I’d say 1st stage is a lot harder because of rng
yeah, the wisps spawns can be super annoying if you don't rush it
i opted to get a few more items and activated the altar
thin timber
Since we know that Elite Magma Worms can spawn in Prismatic Trials, would it theoretically be possible to wait in a single stage for so long, that an Elite Overloading Worm spawns? 👀 Overloading Overloading Worm
slim lintel
I think elite worms aren't supposed to happen just a random prismatic trial fluke since the game is obviously modified in some way to make the 2nd stage enemy always be an elite no matter what
thin timber
So... yes?
slim lintel
no
thin timber
Oh 😦
slim lintel
it actually baffles me how many people think the second most mobile character in the game has bad mobility
tough belfry
uhhh where are you getting "second most mobile character" from
faint steeple
Huntress, loader and mercenary beats rex big time
slim lintel
not even close lmao
maybe merc is second but rex is at least 3rd
also huntress mobility is ass doesnt go as far as rex's puff and has a 2-3 second longer cd
faint steeple
With phase blink she beats rex easily
hardy furnace
Cries in Console Player.
slim lintel
maybe for flat movement but rex can still you know...go up
not to mention any map with a geyser you can just fly across the whole map with no items
hardy furnace
Go up is kinda an e h argument at best
slim lintel
how the actual fuck is that a meh argument? Vertical movement is the most important thing in the game
hardy furnace
Is it though?
slim lintel
Yes.
hardy furnace
How.
slim lintel
thing shoot you, thing no shoot good when you in air, thing miss.
map have to up place cant reach, o wait yes can
hardy furnace
Alright, you can dodge with speed, map have place you can’t reach? Oh well, find a good area to fling yourself at or go around. Nothing super important is up high, newt altars aren’t important enough for go up to be a good argument
slim lintel
Never design a video game please
pearl eagle
Are we talking base game or for PTs here?
slim lintel
You'd make the next ET (1982)
both
time is important in the game if you can save 20 seconds jumping up somewhere instead of going around thats huge
hardy furnace
But what’s gonna be up there that’s so important
slim lintel
swamp map as a whole, teleporter in a jank ass spot etc
hardy furnace
The newt altars aren’t essential to a run unless you’ve become glass (or gesture) stacking reliant.
slim lintel
I don't use lunars
hardy furnace
I haven’t found any up-high tp areas
Other than on the first level
I find it quite easy to navigate the swampy map
tough belfry
for mobility for avoiding being hit, huntress has 3 abilities vs rex's 1, and huntress's are easier to aim
pearl eagle
Yeah, Rex's mobility isn't really built to avoid shit
It just combos so well with PTs which gives him insane mobility, whereas no other character really does that except Arti and MUL-T
slim lintel
cat stop defending it we dont want rex getting even better
slim lintel
then yeah remove him from the game because he completely ruined this gamemode single handedly
pearl eagle
Big brain plays
🤔
slim lintel
cuz prismatic trials are better than the base game
pearl eagle
It's more of a meme, I don't really want him removed¨
hardy furnace
pearl eagle
I used to run PTs in this game a lot before Rex released, then it got extremely boring because I didn't like Rex's playstyle
hardy furnace
Then don’t use REX
pearl eagle
And if you don't use Rex you snooze and loose
hardy furnace
O h
pearl eagle
Me like to go fast
hardy furnace
Then find other f a s t
dusty panther
damn even when it's a good seed for it I can't seem to do the merc challenge :/
slim lintel
What? You don't like holding down left click while spamming M2 uncontrollably? You don't like getting early onset arthritis?
hardy furnace
Damn
pearl eagle
ik right
slim lintel
rex is even worse in the base game, get an hour long + run going and you've been holding left click while mashing m2 that entire time. Rex is literally a health risk to play properly
pearl eagle
MUL-T and Arti used to be the kings of PTs and had interesting gameplay, but Rex just does what both of them do at the same time without having to do interesting routing
hardy furnace
I want to say that iforgotwho is meming but idk anymore these days
slim lintel
Not meming, just a deep biased hatred for rex and it's true that he's a health risk
hardy furnace
I just come ‘round when I find a good place to prove people wrong
slim lintel
Yeah a bit
I wonder if rex being so shit and hard to survive was on purpose so they dont get lawsuits of people playing him on 3 hour runs
pearl eagle
lmao what's fired you up so much? Usually you contain your hatred atleast a little bit
slim lintel
my mom made me eat my veggies and it reminded me of being forced to play rex for good times
pearl eagle
lmao
I'm still just waiting for the next character which is even more busted than Rex
Don't really touch base game anymore and barely even touch PTs enough to say I still play the game
slim lintel
I lost a lot of my will to play when they gimped arti sprinting during M1's for absolutely no reason
pearl eagle
You still upset about that? It took me like an hour of gameplay to adjust
slim lintel
I can adjust but its just annoying and pointless
pearl eagle
That's true, it was extremely unnecessary
Still kinda sad we didn't get anything game changing in terms of the new skills as well
slim lintel
btw I think people figured out the ice M2 for arti has a faster charge time so might be more dps but probably not since lol everything is a cd
also the ice bolt has full map range even more than rex, but it's still not enough to make arti good again
pearl eagle
We've been asking for something with the leaderboard since like the second PT seed or something
Doesn't really matter, as long as something changes to give more incentive to compete
slim lintel
frik you guys I'm buffing rex
hardy furnace
Like the top 10% rewards that haven’t been added yet
pearl eagle
Doubt it ever will be tbh
slim lintel
They will never be added because little script kiddie asshats wont stop cheating
hardy furnace
I hate when games say they have something coming soon but it never comes
slim lintel
Blame the lil shits not the devs
hardy furnace
True
slim lintel
And lets be real the reward would have been something dumb like 5 lunar coins anyways
slim lintel
tfw console pt's are probably 10000x beter than pc
rex wouldnt be as good since its hard to do a good puff jump with a controller
pearl eagle
Are the leaderboards on console and PC seperate?
slim lintel
idk I'd assume so
pearl eagle
Yeah, I can't find any information on whether they are seperate or not, would need someone to confirm if they are or not
slim lintel
time to buy the switch version
pearl eagle
🤔
slim lintel
Figured, I was really confused on how they would have this game running remotely decent on switch for long runs
slim lintel
new speedrun switch battery%
Hey, could I ask you to run a trial at any pace and tell me your time so I can near match it so we know if the leaderboard is platform dependent?
hardy furnace
Aight, I gotta charge my Switch
slim lintel
Sweet, thanks
hardy furnace
Who should I run? I’m not home rn either
slim lintel
any char you want
hardy furnace
I’ll be able to over the weekend
I’m actually kinda not amazing at game.
So my time is probably kinda eh
slim lintel
doesn't matter, it's just for a test
dusty panther
nupe I'm still not good enough to do ethereal apparently. damn :/
verbal axle
Find a Preon and find a turtle
maiden stream
how did u get those roles
dark gale
maiden stream
stark siren
wow, got to the 2nd level at 2:15 on this trial
a run like that could have gotten an insane time
cyan stratus
?
stark siren
?
slim lintel
/
slim lintel
just got an idea for a great shitpost
nvm it takes way too long
I was gonna do the merc challenge using the ethereal skill while standing out of bounds but the skill sucks so much it takes like 10 mins to kill the bosses
soft acorn
It does better vs the lemmie horde
slim lintel
rex has no skill options
soft acorn
^
I played a bit with the new m2 since it has a better dmg/hp cost ration than the default one, then realized It doesent fit my discord name and dropped it. Still do a monsoon run here and there for some less mousebreaking m2 spam but its useless on pt without 4-5 magazines
And ur never ever gonna even bother to get that, basically trash for speedrunning
slim lintel
basic m2 is best by a longshot if you don't mind early onset arthritis, alt m2 relies on items (backupmag) and is less consistent but saves your hand
broken storm
Ok
crystal cape
http://prntscr.com/prkqxo would need a lucky crit to get any higher on this one
dark gale
looks wierd
crystal cape
🤔
tough belfry
what did you do for stage 2 boss
dark gale
die
tough belfry
nice
cyan stratus
why does nobody else do ethereal
dark gale
cause it's hard
slim lintel
I'm not doing it because shitposting it takes too much effort and I don't care enough to do a normal run of it. Also I'm just letting you grow your youtube channel so you can become the next pewdiepie
cyan stratus
i'm actually surprised people are subbing to me since once they get ethereal once my videos are useless to them
but hey i'm not complaining
amber hamlet
I sent someone your way this morning lol
tough belfry
where are you even getting all these views
cyan stratus
i really have no idea
tough belfry
i thought everyone would have ethereal by now
elfin plinth
maybe someone fails some times,rewathes the video then
cyan stratus
well it's pretty easy once you see it once, all you have to do is not get hit
cyan stratus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f4mYtMcMf4 here you go
slim lintel
You should post them in #ror-streams-and-videos for maximum exposure whoring. My rex runs get like 100+ more viewers if I post here and there compared to just here
cyan stratus
but like, if someone wants the ethereal challenge they'll go here
nobody wants to watch some random guy run around two stages for 4 minutes for fun
cyan stratus
at least rex runs usually require skill
i legit made this merc run while still drinking my morning coffee after just waking up
slim lintel
rex runs usually require skill
wut
slim lintel
Not really they kinda boil down to whoever can spam M2 the best