#prismatic-trials
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regardless of if it's relatively easy for this seed
this challenge is not fun, mercenary is not a character meant to be going flawless 0 hits, you have to go ham with him
some of these other challenges are fairly inline with the characters' playstyle imo, but merc isn't a fun character for a 0-hit challenge, the only reason this seed is even playable is because you get a brooch and the one boss you can just sit still on top of and use as cover
If we ever get Sniper back itd be a more fitting challenge for them imo
taking two points of fall damage as i'm avoiding 3 wisps and a golem beam is not fun
i love this character but jesus christ this challenge does not strike me as a good addition to the game, I want to stop playing this prismatic trial but i'm probably not getting a better chance at this ability unlock
I'm not evn getting to the second stage damageless, hah
I want miner or acrid back
"===Stuff We Are Working On===
• Making sure the balance of the game is where it needs to be, and that the new challenges provide a good but fun goal to strive for" i really hope this is what they're talking about, please just make it 75% or something sweet jesus
dude the challenge isn't too hard, a challenge is supposed to be hard
this is by far the easiest seed
This is a challenge to unlock something innate for the character.
It shouldn't feel like an unfun slog.
ok and if you dont like doing hard challenges just edit the skill in
I would rather do the stay over 100% health than do the commando ones
Some of us don't like to cheat in achievements, Cabbage.
yea i don't either, but it's not a mandatory thing to do
it's not that it's unfairly ridiculously hard, it's that it's inconsistent and frustrating in ways the normal game isnt
^^^^^
like critting the crystal because of the 1% innate crit chance and insta-failing
Oh my GOD yes.
but like you can just bring the crystal to 40% and use the eviscerate thing
That's not the point.
second stage i've had the fire ring proc on the crystals and fail it for me a couple times as well
you can do 2 slashes and eviscerate and you never get that problem
Again, not the point. The point is that this challenge brings so many factors that aren't even normally thought of into the equation, and even a single TICK of damage without a barrier will send you back to the start.
ok but that's not a problem if you just don't get hit
Ah yes, the old elitist prick's "git gud lul" argument.
i'm not elitist?? it's actually as simple as keep moving in a straight line if something is shooting an aimed thing at you
and with tesla coil you get so much brooch shield you can't die
yeah once you get to the tesla
My dude, it can be LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to dodge some attacks.
that's once again, not the issue
ok but that's what the brooch and iframes are for
i'm glad you're trying to explain away my frustration here with things i'm not frustrated by
AGAIN. NOT THE GODDAMN POINT.
the brooch doesn't give you enough to get past any of the damage in the first stage
i even made a video, just do what i do
it's a good video, yes
"Just replicate my movements 1 for 1, no deviation whatsoever"
You realize what you're asking, right?
your route is solid, but once again, that's not the issue, the issue is that jumping through hoops to avoid 2 damage isn't a fun addition to mercenary
fun is subjective, if you don't like challenging stuff then maybe you won't find it fun
i dont like this challenge either but for different reasons
There's a difference between a challenge and what feels like pure RNG.
i don't like this specific 'challenge' and the challenge the rest of the game offers
there's no rng involved in this
And once this seed's over, it WILL be pure RNG.
this is really off-brand for the kind of challenge i like from RoR2
if you do the same thing every time you get the same spawns, most rng is the kjaro
what about the 0-2 vulture spawns by vagrant?
this challenge is possible for every seed though, doesn't really matter
if you go fast you don't get the vultures
It's starting to feel like you're intentionally misunderstanding us.
< ~45s
fair
but this challenge annoys me not because it's "hard", i'm having a good time getting the monsoon skins, even though commando was a pain in the ass it's still the game
this is avoiding wisps and standing still on top of vagrant, my least favorite part of the game, i respect that you got such a good route together for this seed, but it's still a pain in the ass that doesn't feel rewarding in the same way as the rest of the game
you can pretty much 1shot the vagrant though with some luck
yes, with luck
if you dont like sitting on top of a vagrant then reset a couple times until you get it
when you can get the inconsistent bumping mechanic to spike him on the rocks right, and if i fuck up and blow up a crystal next stage too early i need to reset, that's my main complaint
i've been resetting for 2 hours, monsoon commando was a better time than this
For me, the main complaint is how reliant this seed is on so many factors beyind most players' control.
Seed, minor RNG sources, spawns, wonky physics in this case.
This kind of stuff just doesn't feel good for most players.
I don't care that this is pretty much the perfect seed.
It's not a fun challenge.
1st stage is possible no hit with pretty much every seed and there's so many options with bazaar etc that you'd be hard pressed to find a seed that isn't possible
That's. Not. The. Point.
i'm having a bad time because now i have to notice and fret over very minor things i happily ignored before, and the punishment is pretty severe for messing up, the first stage is alright tbh
ok but your point is that it isn't fun which is completely subjective
it's like i'm arguing with someone about apples being better than oranges
no, i'm saying it's not fun because it's much more punishing
ok but in my opinion the harder something is the more fun it is to a certain extent so again it's just a matter of opinion
if something is punishing it's good when you finally do it
This is absolutely a case of artificial difficulty, considering so many goddamn variables to consider.
i'm certainly going to be glad not to have to do this anymore
In all reality, there's probably a way to flawless every trial, yes. Is it going to be fun for 90% of the playerbase to constantly grind for absolute perfection on a single seed? No.
that's what this seed is for
also, as a small gripe, i really like the uppercut but it also keeps smashing my head into the ceiling and damaging me
there's like 3 routes to pick from
And what happens when this seed's gone?
they fixed this for the R ability
hopefully the self-damage on the uppercut goes too
What are you going to say then? "Just wait for a better seed"?
if you don't feel like grinding it out on a harder seed just wait
Read you like a goddamn book.
ok but what else do you want me to say
you're allowed to like this challenge, i can't go ahead and take your opinion from you, but i just wish a slightly higher margin of error was allowed
i got it done, nearly, didn't even know i took some hit between barriers during stage 2, i had 14 damage taken total
well if you get hit you can just reset
At this point it feels like I'm just grinding my head against a wall of sandpaper trying to convince you just why this challenge isn't good from a design standpoint.
Most players aren't in this discord.
but i agree with that?
Most players aren't going to look for every single seed's video on someone getting it flawless.
this challenge isn't good because prismatic trials are supposed to be completed fast, the point of this achievement is to go slow
i didn't even know i got hit, but i'm pretty sure it happened right at the end, anyway i get that this is me asking to have the challenge catered to me, but a 90% threshold would let you goof around for maybe a papercut's worth of fall damage
if you don't wanna watch a video of someone doing it then they can just route it themselves
i kind of thought that too
merc never struck me as great for the prismatic trial to begin with, i always use arti
rex is the best if you wanna do it fast
And then not even ten minutes ago you were just saying you have toget to the teleporter in 45 seconds this seed.
ahhh, yeah i forget about rex
Which is it, go fast or go slow?
well if you dont wanna go fast then you can just kill the vultures
i meant you can go slow for stage 2
yeah stage 2 is a lot easier once you get the gunner drone to pull some fire
You mean the same stage 2 with wisps that can start charging their hitscan attack the moment they spawn and end your attempt instantly?
ok, you hear them start to do their attack so you use an iframe ability
In the rest of the chaos that is this game?
yea you can look around and if you see a wisp you know it's aggro'd or not
ok i think i got hit once in s2 but if you kill some stuff that's what brooch is for
you're pretty much fucked if you don't save dash for the wisps, to that end the uppercut is nice because it one-shots the jellyfish pretty cleanly
so you don't have to waste it on those
just went down to 223/224 on some wisps 
just rush tesla coil and you're safe
ty for the route tbh, i had no clue about the tesla
And on top of everything this challenge throws at players, I'm talking from the perspective of someone with attention and auditory processing disorders. With how chaotic this game is, my focus is being forced to split between my health bar, my character, the environment, the enemies, visual cues, et fucking cetera. It's next to impossible for me to focus on all of that AND the execution to get it done.
i've got it mostly figured out, it's just the grind of not messing anything up
Tesla brooch and double glass on the market
and the very minor differences in spawn location based on how long it took to kill crystals
This seed is the easiest by far
tesla and glass??
Yup
didn't know there's a tesla on both s2's
Double glss
shiiiiiiet
You get the same s2 if u reenter portal after bazzar without dreaming
did they change that between last seed and this one?
But I havent tested, I dreamt and rushed the boss with glass
since it wasn't like that 2 days ago
oh boy more salt
Maybe ur right, ill have to doublecheck. That means 4 total s2 options per seed instead of 3
4 ??
No newt, newt and portal and 2 newt dreams
no, dream is the same as alt s2
i tested last seed pretty well and i'm pretty sure it was
yeah but @slim lintel tell me you didn't get salty before you got it
me and him did it first seed which was easy
i get i'm moaning about it but i have tried to be pretty civil in how i'm complaining
All I know is I just saw someone complaining it was too hard because of their own health/mental issues and thats just dumb, it's a challenge there's no way for them to balance it around that
i mean tbh this challenge is pretty hard for blind people
playing mercenary in braille would be a pretty big flex
they need to just make pressing
at any point unlock everything since people seem to hate any challenge or sense of accomplishment
i really didn't expect this much complaining since people can just edit the file if they don't like challenging stuff
i feel like the people complaining do want a challenge since they aren't just editing it in
but this is a pretty different challenge from the rest of the game
i shut up and nutted up when i had to get brainstalks but this is something new and i'm having a rough time getting dicked on by the one wisp i couldn't reach
I agree with that, but its what the game is and who knows if they'll change it
i'm just mad i got all the way to the end with 14 damage taken
if i hadn't taken a tiny hit during s2 i'd probably just be in here thanking yall for putting up a route but i'm still struggling through it
I mean a challenge should take multiple tries, the challenges in general are way too easy and most of them you'll randomly get on accident or general play. The worst thing about the merc challenge is they tied it to prismatic trials where it doesnt make sense. Though in their dev thoughts they said they were very happy to see people routing the challenge etc so I think it was a really weird really bad way of trying to spark up the pt community and it back fired
We just wanna go fast
ur good at rex, beat the titan before the hp levelup i cant do it
i tried like 10 times
sorry I'm saving my m2 finger for marriage
i dont think you have to worry about that look at ur pfp
yeah it's nice that they made people outside the core audience care about prismatic trial, but merc is not my man for the trial, i'd probably sooner die than try to set a competitive time over a ranged character
he's only fast enough to steal your friend's item purchases, not to zip between crystals in the time it takes to shoot them
There's been some very respectable times with merc before
with the bumping thing?
I tried for like 20 mins to yeet a vagrant and I couldnt get it a single time
also what's the deal with the blue fog wall
is that just a low shader setting or something?
idk
like in your vid you've just got some blue blocking up that cave
bad settings probably
wait thats a known issue with using cheat-engine.gov we gottem bois
need 5000fps for millisecond timing perfect item purchase
oh no
need cheat engine for it as well
lol that's why i have input overlay
to show the elegance of your automated script
i wonder if it's even possible to script the vagrant instakill
no
is it a matter of distance?
like afaik i only get it when i'm a certain bit above it but what's the actual deal with it
I was trying to find a consistent setup for it this trial but I couldnt get it at all
when you slam the vagrant into a wall the game rolls 2 dice and if it's a 5 the vagrant takes damage
tfw 1 dice
i just flip a coin to see whether or not i get hit by vulture through the top of the vagrant
usually not actually a big deal but offputting the 2 or so times it happens
they're nasty up close too tho! like even if you close distance with r sometimes they just hit you perfectly out of your iframes
yeah the better option than praying that they don't hit is just to be fast enough that bird doesn't spawn
remember the good 'ol days where you could cheese the shit outta overloading elites
true
np
I unlocked the Mercenary's Ethereal challenge but i have a few question regarding the Wandering Vagrant. When i attacked the boss that had 50% hp with Rising Thunder it immediately died. Is this a bug or is there like a weak spot on the Wandering Vagrant? (Items that i had were: Topaz Brooch x2 and Kjaro's Band)
yeah
So its a bug?
its because its a flying enemy into a wall
I was just going to guess that, but not sure how it's calculated with the damage and whatnot. Maybe you pushed it into the wall and the game insta-killed it since it was out of bounds?
Wait. So enemies that get pushed into walls take more damage or is it like an insta kill?
yeah
tl:dr me, is this a good trail to go for ethereal?
idunno if people have found a consistent way to slam the big jelly, but if you dash at it right at the very top of its model it will be pushed down, if you do this while it is close to ground it will recieve tons of dmg and even be insta killed
Yes. This trial provides 2 Topaz Brooches at the start. And at the second round if you go to the shrine of chance on the second attempt you get the electric coil item ( the one that shock enemies) this is good cause it automatically kills nearby enemies and gives you a barrier due to the brooches
Thanks, that was a good run.
Did you manage to do it?
I’m still having trouble passing the first boss. I get the first two crystals and then I fall down and grab the band and then head towards the treasure chest outside that has the topaz brooch and jump up on the hill and get the last crystal and usually get hit on my way to the teleporter
Something.
I finally got the skill, I may not enjoy this as a trial for a skill but the least I can say is that having watched some others it at least taught me on new cool merc tech I wasn't aware of.
If I got to see that from other characters too it might be interesting.
Someone needs to tell me that it’s a waste of time to go for the Ukulele.
well I tried to use it for this but it didn't seem to really help in the next area (since I wasn't using the lunar shop)
It is good for the first boss if you are ontop of it as it can hit and kill enemies on the roof to give you more armor.
The second area benefits more from the will-o-wisp since we have the Tesla for killing nearby enemies. it honestly won me that chev. I do find it easier to go back and get after killing the first boss though
is there a way to actually look at the best times ?
or whether or not you're in the top 10% for that matter?
no
Blunt but insightful
Maybe in the future hopefully
Honestly I’m trying different ways to attack this map and the best go of it for my progress has been grabbing the one topaz our in the field next to the tp and just going for it.
It is pretty good to just go for it, but after a while you become more skilled at dealing with all of that and can slowly add a few more things to your arsenal.
That’s what I’m thinking. I just hope I can get what I need to get before 42 hours is up lol
At the end I was grabbing that same topaz and the band in the tri shop right before it and using the other alt skill to quickly climb up and hit the crystal on top of the cave, then dropping down and grabbing the other topaz running to the tp and waiting a tiny bit to see if any birds showed up to deal with then fight the boss.
After that I'd run to the will-o-wisp shop grab it and go back to TP.
Then I'd break the two crystals near me in area two, kill a few enemies for temp hp and run the crystal straight ahead, alt skill and then use eviscerate to kill crystal 3.
After that I ran around the back while getting temp hp from enemies that might hit me (wisps or lizardmen) and getting to the tesla and sticky bomb shrine.
Finally than I went to TP and waited a little to get more a bit more temp hp and fought that final boss of the run.
I can’t do it. I get more tense with each run and knowing that I have to spend my day off hoping and grinding for a map I can run is making me just not like it anymore. I used to go on these huge ridiculous runs with my friends. Now I just hate myself and this game. I’m a grouchy old man now.
nah you could cheese last trial easy
this week a good week to do the mercenary unlock?
@knotty zenith no idea...but it’s easier by comparison.
if you have trouble in s1 you should wait for next trail
if you have trouble in s1 you should hack the achievement in
^ true
I got it on my third try in this set
Topaz makes it too easy when you get the tesla
first two tries were both just getting hit by vagrant
where s the tesla
im confused, in my second stage the tele is on the side of the island and the chance shrine with the tesla just isn't there at all, anybody know why? the first stage seems identical, although the wisps on stage 2 are giving me an aneurysm
have you open the shop
I've had it happen without opening the shop though it seemed like I took longer or got more items that run.
As for Frostygale, that does tend to happen if you go to the shop but in place of the tesla you can buy a royal cap and with the increased damage (I assume you would choose that in the shop) you can eat through the second boss's health.
Ah okay, I thought it was possible to get both the Tesla and the cap, but ty for explaining, I was super pissed after getting dinked by one elite wisp right before I killed the boss
is the current trial any good to get mercs skill?
yes
absolutely
how much time left
34 hours
gl
will need
someone posted a vid for it https://old.reddit.com/r/riskofrain/comments/dbod36/current_prismatic_trial_is_very_easy_and_fast_for/
use cabbages vid that one is cringe, dude doesnt even use his cds properly
at least it prove this route is easy
That means you will complete the challenge in the next couple runs probably
you shoulda had a full hp bar worth of shield when you hit s2 tele to end it
well
i didnt
also tried the stage 1 route with picking up both of brooches
it makes alloy vultures spawn
you can take items after s1 boss is dead?
yes
eh
More costly if I fail that one though
I guess I'll just wait a bit after getting tesla for shit to spawn before hitting tele
it is really bad that stuff costs lunar coins in prismatic trials
nah i'm saying it's bad
it completely goes against the idea of optimising your time in trials when you're limited by lunar coins
since for some trials they're necessary (e.g. glass in lunar pod) and you can go through loads of coins resetting for a decent run
@cyan stratus what is your best run on this trial?
i didn't really get a good time since i couldn't get it before the titan levelled up
but i think i have like a 1:54 or so
have you tried new caracter
yes
if you slam up on vagrant you get big DMG
you get better than 1:50 with that?
i think the automatic 30 seconds you have to spend on titan cancels everything out
rn i have 2:28 maybe you can slam titan into rock?
have been doing runs for about an hour
idk go do it, i don't think loader can ever beat rex
what is rex time?
probably 1:45 on a good run but i have about 1:54
for loader taking the portal may be better even if just to show off cool loader portal strats
reminder that going through portal adds 6.72+~6s
so because time doesn't stop it's pretty much never something you do
2x glass just seems worth it to me
i feel like spiderman with loader if you can controll it he is probably the fastest moving caracter
Where is the second topaz?
in the cave by the teleporter?
ok but like my guy think of how long it takes to get the 2 glass
you can kill 3 titans in the time it takes to walk there and back
i killed first boss and teleported in 53 sec but choked on second boss
that's where the cool portal strats come in
you can activate portal then grab glass
saving walking time
no you can't
!?!?!?
celestial ending run on monsoon difficulty
if you time the punch up at just the right time you do 3/4 health almost oneshot
do that with money saving from stage 1 to make portal take longer and you should be able to get both glass
maybe it isn't worth it but it would look cool :(
i thought both gold and coins go to 0 when you go through a portal
probably just a visual thing
ok well the best way to prove that it doesn't lose time is to do it yourself (:
go get a 1:30 or smth
D:
you i think i can get sub 1:40 but just worked night shift and have not slept so gonna go pass out
you=yo
y'know people always say that kind of stuff but never actually go through with it
go prove me wrong i guess
Nice, I managed to do it
nice
Thanks everyone
uhh i have no idea how to slam the vagrant with loader
but just getting to the teleporter seems too slow
I can get there faster with l loader than arti, and s1 is basically a top tier stage for arti :<
loader just suuuuuucks at killing bosses without items though so she'll never be actually viable
i tried loader and get to 1st in 21sec but can't do anything vs bosses
ok i got a 2:17 lol this character sucks
sub 2 probably possible if i stop yeeting myself off of stage 2
same
i dont think you can 1tap the vagrant
maybe kjaro + slamming if slamming actually works
until some video proves otherwise i choose to believe slamming isn't a thing
I'd try to find loader tech but that would require playing loader 🤢
go beat my 2:01
nah
found the vagrant one shot
my zapper thing added a load of time
but 1:53:33
could also be faster with a kjaro proc against the titan but who wants to farm that
How'd you one shot the vagrant?
kjaro
No slam then?
no i can't figure it out and it probably doesn't exist
ah
Attempting Ethereal over the past week has made me want to actually get into trials
Seems to be the place where all the cool kids are 
if only Loader's R targeted crystals
Finally done with it! My soul may rest
In case anybody wants to know my run:
Stage 1: First two crystals on bridge, Kjaro, Ukulele, Crystal on broken structure, outside brooch, inside brooch, boss.
Stage 2: First two crystals, drone right by crystals, jump up to the bridge to the upper level, shrine of chance for Teddy, 3rd crystal by boss, do the boss and good luck. Keep killing enemies.
nice
congratss
this challenge is driving me crazy, i get close to the first boss then get sniped by the birds
the second boss got through....
loader crit kjaro farming new meta
1:44
next character they add will have one of their abilities be a giant nuke that destroys all the crystals on the whole map and teleports you to the teleporter
nah 1s like rex
maybe have the homing spears for engi as a alt to his grenades
Spears should have been the m2 instead of mines since the game launched
true
this game doesnt cater to the "mine" playstyle at all
the devs themselves said they found themselves just chucking them like grenades yet they give us an alt skill thats just more mines basically
if you call farming a 1/10000 chance an upgrade
any tips for the merc challenge? ive been following the route mentioned earlier
just watch my video and do what i do
already see my first mistake, im using the alt m2
lol my movement is trash but who needs movement when you have rng
that tesla coil thou
if you grapple to the vagrant then punch it while moving fast you do more damage (enough to one shot)
i'm pretty sure
my best s1 was 5 seconds faster or something
nah it's just because i stumbled at the teleporter twice
is this prismatic good for ethereal ?
ye
does taking a tick of fall damage but it does 0 damage count as taking damage
if you take damage yes
@cyan stratus yo was that was clipping damage on the titan
what
thankyou @icy urchin for posting that video. I know it wasnt yours but thanks for posting
oh hey, grats!
was it difficult? I got it 2 weeks ago when there was a topaz printer on 2nd stage, was fairly easy
or was it last week?
oh right after the update was released
ive spent over 5 hours trying on the bullshit trials without topaz though
yeah that was right after update, the printer trial
FINALY, MY SOUL CAN REST 😂
wait how tf do you get that
just watch my video this seed is easy
I'm really trying to like loader but I just cant at all. I honestly hate both of the chars they've added so far, if I don't like the next one or it breaks trials even further I'm just gonna drop this game entirely
ok but if you dont like loader you're admitting you're bad
loader is ok, I like the robot crab more
loader 1:44 rex 1:54 🙃
this is the prismatic trials channel sir
my bad lol
alright go do a loader trial without a band and see how it goes
also how are you supposed to do a 2 stage trial in < 2 min
it's the only way loader can compete
its almost as bad if not worse than preon crit meta
i didn't record my subpar rex gameplay but i have a 1:44 loader i posted earlier
Is there a video for the merc route this trial?
Several Wizard
There is a merc video for today trial, I already found 2 and I also about to post one
watch my video easy route
Can't find the links, you mind sending one?
you can find my channel by clicking my profile
but here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZcs8d9Qjk
easy seed, idk how to slam the jellyfish consistently but i 1shot it once so it's probably easier to do that
thanks!
ethereal isnt even good
but why did it seem like the vagrant didnt attack at all except for the nuke
and why didnt the titan do the laser even once
top of the vagrant is a safespot, titan doesn't laser in close proximity
seems like he lasers me no matter where i am
¯_(ツ)_/¯
also i dont stand on the vagrant a lot but how is it a safe spot. wont the various exploding orbs still target you
like theres no way it doesnt spawn that slow moving one with hp that jsut moves towards you no matter where you are
how much time left for the trial to change?
there's nothing stopping you from trying it yourself if you don't believe me
i already have ethereal anyway, im just wondering why the bosses seemed so nonaggressive. ive never really seen them like that
~20h
oh fuk
i run trials a lot so it's important to know the tricks to make bosses easier
does the vagrant just not shoot anything at all when youre on top of it?
like i dont get it
nope it ignores you
hm. okie doke
ive absolutely never noted anything along the lines of titan not lasering in close range though, especially considering all the times ive avoided the laser by running in tight circles around him
btw it's the third time the titan shoots me milliseconds before dying, is that normal or i'm just overly stupid?
the titan continues its laser even if you go close, it can also target a faraway drone and switch its focus to you even if you're close
titan has an attack pattern but nothing that makes it attack right before it dies
i think it was the orb on his head tho
yeah that shoots every x seconds
with the current trial is relatively easy fortunately
thank god for having already done this on the first seed
yea first seed was easy but why not delete the achievement from your xml file and do it again
because no
didnt you get that like 1:45 on that seed with rex
ive been trying to remember/figure out how you killed the dunestrider so quickly without the accumulator. like, the succ should have given it so much armor and regen that it wouldve been impossible to kill it before it was done doing that
which one?
oh that one
another boss manipulation, dunestrider only enters regen phase when below 1/4 health so just bait the dunestrider into going up, it doesn't enter regen phase when up and then burst it down
rex does enough dps so no preon needed
yeah i just dont know enough about that boss manip shit. like if i tired it i wouldve just been slowed down by the succ for like
how long does that go on? 1 0 secones? 15?
took us a while to figure that one out
when it goes up you have like 8 seconds or so to kill it (?)
maybe closer to 5 idk
of course i have 166 hours on the game and only just recently even realized the succ gives it armor in the first place
ik 166 isnt all that impressive, i dont play it that much, im just saying i shouldve noticed sooner lmao
like, within the first 50
yeah the damage resistance is too much to get through so it's important to skip that
you can also delay the dunestrider going up by forcing it to turn, it only goes up when turned towards you
therefore you can choose to a certain extent when it goes up, at like 1/4hp
not really needed anymore because rex does a bunch of dmg but it was needed when mult was the best
personally though, considering im not typically trying to go as fast as possible, i just lure dunestrider over to a cliff and yeet him off with the rex blip
yknow, the tar pits in aqueduct and the cliff edge in rallypoint
just push it in for the instakill
yea i wish we could use more strats like that but the characters do too much dmg for stuff like that to be viable
well, its the easy way casually
and its funny
i simultaneously wonder why dunestrider is the only boss that takes knockback, and why it takes knockback in the first place
I found the dunestrider strat, it's my proudest stratdaddy accomplishment
the long range one at least, cabbage found the spinning one
actually nano boosting is my stratdaddy pride but it doesnt matter anymore because arti sucks ass and got an unneeded nerf
trials were a lot more fun before hopoo started adding characters that do way too much damage with way too much mobility
ok but if kjaro/runald wasn't random loader would actually be fun to play
even if loader wasnt a cheeseball I wouldnt like them, the movement just feels clunky imo. Everything just feels so locked and out of your control
it isn't
the only control you have is when you let go of the grapple and the direction/distance of your punch after either of those you have no control for about 3-20 seconds
ok but like if you go on a plane you have no control of where you're going because you're not the pilot but you have full control over which plane ticket you buy and which plane you get on
hopoo feather is nice on loader as you can just use it to break the momentum if you go too far with punch after swing
also on rex you can push grovetender just like clay dunestrider
makes the scorched arches one of rex' better maps in normal gameplay since you have pretty high chance of getting either dunstrider/grovetender/horde of many ground based elites... I'm also curious if anyone has a full list of enemies you can push around as rex? Mostly if there is anyway to push around elder wisps/church bells or flying bosses, so far it seems you cant, but maybe I am just doing it wrong who knows
any tips on how to properly avoid the bullets from the orb above the titan? i'm really tired of finally getting there just to get shot by that
same help
time iframes, when you dont have iframes strafe around the titan far enough to not get hit by the shots, jump around, kill titan faster,
he shots too fast to avoid his attacks with only shift and r
dont spend all iframes right away, try to spread it out
yup
once you use your iframes go behind the rock for a few seconds or something?
well i'll just keep trying
its fucking hard
I think the 0orb is not permanent either
its seems to be on cd
so you can also hide away for its duration if you are desperate
this vvould be much easier if the titan didnt regen
oh yea
hahaha.....
I forgot overloading
yeah...
it will use it when its around half hp I think so focus your dmg to finish it as fast as you can after half
i cant do it, i vveill have to vvait for nevv seed
next seed is very likely to be even harder just saying
you can also try to be faster in the overall run since the titan will get tankier with time
i have route and items planned out, just seems so rng dodging the bullets and stopping regen at the same time
the topaz brooch barrier with tesla coil should also help you block few hits
i vvas close, teddi saved me once
well i'm starting to hate this
but not tvvice
more specifically, the orb
this seed is not even that hard
it's just that damn orb
if you stay in air and move around a lot its less likely to hit you
i guess u can time jumps vvith its shottting
does it keep shooting at the same rate?
yes
same rate and the shots wont track your movement
on ground it can splash even if it misses tho I think
but yea if you have both topaz brooches and teslacoil killing the trash mobs around you should have enough barrier to block 1-3 shots in the fight and iframes can be timed when barrier is too low and you can spread the shift dashes out a bit to wait out until the shot actually comes
nice
just the feeling of completing the challenge is nice and its not useless. Just not as good as regular R. Imo it can still be used, hopefully they make it scale with attackspeed too so it will be a semiviable choice.
you can dodge the titan's attacks by just not getting hit
omg why i didn't think about it
also thanks cabbage for the video guide, helped alot
np
one tip for gents trying to do the mercenary alt ult. Go for the alloy worship unit in todays trial and use your utility to ram the unit in the ground. They get fall damage and you can potentially one shot it. Also that skips the first stage vandering vagrant and gives you a frozen thingie (don't know the name) instead of a rose buckler.
i give up, took a random 6 damage while i was on the vagrant and i have no idea what caused it; gonna wait for another easy seed even if i know it'll probably take a month or two
is this seed good for the merc challange?
yeah, stage 1 has 2 brooches and stage 2 has a tesla
thanks my guy
no prob
@stable torrent yo do you know where the tesla is on stage 2?
shrine by the teleporter
got it
i got the ukulele and two brooches on stage one and i got the tesla on stage two = infinite shield
i've made it yesterday... that tesla coil was an awesome easy mode
Phew, finally managed to do it
What's the strategy for this seed?
Cabbage made a video for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UZcs8d9Qjk
easy seed, idk how to slam the jellyfish consistently but i 1shot it once so it's probably easier to do that
Thank u
thank him
god i fucking hate wisps that spawn out of reach
i love clipping through things and taking damage
does this trial contain imp overlord?
no
1 is enough
I DID IT
omg
peeps
just saw the video haha, I did it a little differently: get the two topaz + runal band + activate blue portal stage 1
get the two shape glass
get royal capacitor
insta kill boss
Omg I did it
Fucking typical, an hour and change to spare but I did it.
I don’t care how bad some peeps might say the ability is, I did it.
Let this be a lesson: if at first you don’t succeed grind away until you nearly lose your sanity and all semblance of a memory of what comfort was but eventually with enough persistence the mountain will budge.
I hope I hate this ability and the only joy that I ever get from this whole experience is the memory of finally achieving something that is very hard that I question several times whether or not I would ever be able to work up to accidentally blundering through to success.
But her skin is my favorite out of the skins - it literally changes depending on what map she is on
Oh yeah I ground for hours to get Arti mastery on solo
That shit was so fucking hard
i got it first try (as in i actively try to get it) but i also almost exclusively play on monsoon so
that alt m2 is great tho idk what you mean
@rancid shadow color-changing sounds amazing!
artis alt m2 is fine I think you meant her alt m1 which would be awful if it was working properly, but its not even working properly
My Struggle and Victory with the Merc Challenge, a short novel, by Vaultboy1222
I have some reflections I’d like to share for those struggling with merc ethereal. Mercenary is my favorite survivor. I like merc so much I haven’t even played as Loader yet. Imagine my excitement at being able to customize my favorite character with a new “kit” after unlocking some new abilities! Anyway, the Ethereal challenge proved to be incredibly frustrating at times. Here’s what I did:
Keep grinding; I would fail and get more tense and play worse and worse and get more tense and frustrated. I decided that I was just going to except that as my reality and I was going to feel so often that I stopped being disappointed by it and much to my surprise that actually turned out to be kind of a brain hack that helped me get through some rough times. Keep trying and take breaks and keep trying.
Hurrying fucked me. I would try to go fast hoping for less monsters because I was so beaten down from vultures and wisps cheap-shotting me. No one fails because they didn’t zoom through and keep all their dash attacks on cooldown. Attack monsters that have ranged-attacks calmly and deliberately, use beetles and other melee-only monsters as batteries for your barrier. Panicked attacks to kill monsters will cause you to make erratic decisions and deplete important life-saving abilities that will save you from damage. remember if you’re out of range, that’s just more armor.
Celebrate this little things: did you make it further on a run than before but you got hit anyway? Acknowledge that you made progress. This might end up feeling like a long war for you.
Repeat as necessary.
what the fuck
what the frick
a real merc lover would complete a daily monsoon run into celestial portal without taking dmg (/s)
ok i got ethereal for this trial lol
that was fast
it's pretty easy if you just don't get hit
This trial was easy for the Ethereal challenge. People really need to git gud
no it's a new one 1 hour ago
planning on another video for this one cabbage?
sure
thanks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YCn-l4548s temporary until i get a better run
brooch doesn't really do anything, make sure to not let the 1st preon aoe get the dunestrider below 90% otherwise crowbar won't proc, can skip uke and wax qu...
this ones dummy easy basically only beetles spawn s1
and then double preon instakill s2
yea
fast
wat
rex fast
you dont have enough hp to crystal jump off the 2nd s2 crystal unless there's some way to get 32 hp before you get there
can be faster, someone go beat me
I got some weeb trash ethereal challenge uploading rn
it better than mine ?
its faster
idc I just wanted to make a shitpost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBd1ODZNiYY here you go ethereal challenge route for this trial extra kawaii
delete it
lmao
no but like that's actually an abomination and you should feel bad
nah I feel pretty good
i had to mute it to watch it
that is the point
the route isn't even good
its not supposed to be
waste of time
why? dont they provide health over 100% so you can afford a hit or two?
transendence fucks it up
oh, really?
because it counts as normal health...But shield generators do not
Neither do broaches
TIL
What? Shield generators count as health..
Brooches and Aegis are barrier
Which is different from shields
Barrier doesn’t count, shields do
what a hassle
this trial can't be easier just do it
seems that this seed is even easier than the last one
just for that preon fuel cell tho, imagine going against a fire elite without being hit
what's the weeb music i don't recognise it
@cyan stratus can you really surf like that with about any not very flat surface with the m2 of merc?
Hey @cyan stratus those have been some great ethereal runs, thanks
@tough belfry I think its from some random tv scene in the background in steins;gate or something
ok nice how did you find that
I downloaded the steins;gate ost from some random ass website like 6+ years ago and remembered that weird ass song was in there somehow
I might just make this a series for every trial, at least super easy ones that take 0 effort
@patent chasm yes
that's intresting!
btw cabbage did you know you can dmg vagrants and alloy worship by using R on other side of terrain to pull it to dmg?
nvm cant pull vagrant
this trials vagrant seems like it gets pushed a lot easier than last trials for some reason, I could consistently get a slam on this one and 0 on the other
I mean on rex
I just 2 shot alloy worship like this
I think elder wisps work too
Vagrant seems to not care tho
doesnt work on jellyfish
yea doesnt seem to do anything to wisps either 😦 but if you play monsoon runs you can just oneshot alloy worship every time with R
sub 2 ethereal coming soon ;)
no it isn't
try it
i have
i am
the issue is that it's really hard to try for because of how inconsistent vagrant slamming is
Sub 2 Eth or your family gets thrown into The Pit
Yeah I donno Chief. Looks like you’ve got some 16.10 on your face
Might wanna shave that off
uhhhhhh that's impossible
well i guess it's time to turn on cheats
Reasonable
guess i'm gonna have to beat your time
Oop
since nobody wants to beat my rex time ):
Minecraft Apple vs Mr. Anime
it's not.... nevermind
welcome to the apple gang pope
cabbage will try to say thats a cherry but we know better
tfw even merc is faster than arti now
🤡 trials
yea i'm surprised by the merc time but then i remembered the 1:42 benchmark and now i'm not surprised anymore
1:42 benchmark?
??
???
?????
tf is that
fake trial player get out
Fraud
you mean the level up
yes??
oh when tf did we start calling that a benchmark
when rex came out and not killing the boss before 1:42 means you're bad
Fraudulent gamer
I noticed I overly shitposted on my weeb trial vid, I destroyed 4 crystals on stage2 lmao I didnt even notice
did you willingly rewatch it
Did you willingly watch it, Cabbage?
yes but muted
Good idea
I've watched it a total of 47 times, I'm very proud of it
because its art
with sound just kidding it's music added after the video was recorded with no sound haha
wtf is this weeb garbage
weeb garbage
👌
good mashup
no it isn't
ok not everyone can afford nasa computer
i dont have a nasa computer I'm playing the wii version
i'm using tilt controls!
oh no
wait is that cirnos perfect math class mashed up with soulja boy
ya
even i recognized it and i'm not a weeb
God I hate anime
same tbh
God I hate anime so much
agree
God I hate anime so much, but I hate people with pixilated fruit profile pictures more
i dont know how to respond to that
rowley lookin kinda fresh
now I'm gonna have to try and get a speedrun going so I can make a v2
today's trial is good if you still need to get the engineer challenge to kill tele boss in 5 seconds
2nd stage is rallypoint so you can get a preon, and 2 glasses + armor piercing along the way
the engi challenge is so 09/17
@tough belfry dont forget to post that in #ror-streams-and-videos and #ror2-memes so as many people as possible get to see it
you know those things in the caves look almost like area portals, but idk if unity uses those or if its just a source thing.
ok I found the cause, check the tickbox for soft particles and it will go away
soft particles being on shouldnt be much of a performance hit at all either
well then enjoy your crusty giant block of light blue
ok
i didn't know apples could be orange
oh yes the rare orange apple
that minecraft golden apple
so it seems like this prismatic is the most possible ive seen
at least for ethereal
idk, the one 2 weeks ago had a brooch printer, it allowed even for mistakes to be made
Cabbage, you are fucking insane
you are playing this game on another lvl
?
ya cabbage u legend you rush the tele on rex like no other
indeed
cabbage you need to start putting this shit over your rex run videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwdpqIuzBs
Provide the home with good energy and balance with our stress-relief and relaxation inducing binaural beat with isochronic beat track created purposely for y...
S T I M U L A T E P L A N T
lol what
nice new pfp
thanks
@cyan stratus you're my hero ❤
np
tfw the weebs get no credit
rightfully so
Cabbage is the hero of prismatic trials
wow ok what am I chopped liver
Apple man getting so much fame from PTs

if commando gets something insane for a utility skill alt he may become a pt contender, his new m2 does 1600% every 3 seconds and you can double nade the boss spawn
Hopefully next character doesn't kill pt like plant did
Loader's pretty screwed up too. Technically the best by far but very rng reliant
sniper
miner
Hopoo
^
hopoo is obviously the best character since he randomly fills the whole leaderboard up sometimes
True
3 videos are up for the current ethereal seed
Worth keeping pinned until the seed changes
my video really doesn't work as a route for people
I'm watching it right now
Why did you use the Cirno's Playground Soulja Boy theme as bgm
lmao
any reason why u didnt pin cabbages merc run? ;p https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/563138000771612679/629124570946732042
yeah thats the rex run i think
The real question is why are you questioning only MyCaast choice of music for the background
Because I like weeb music
Understandable

I know the best bgm
i did the music as that since i didn't want to do full weeb music and that fit the time of the video
This fits the theme of Etherial even more imo
Unending suffering of everyone trying to do it
War, war never changes
Idk, that's how discord explained it to me
I guess it's not there on phone since I never saw it
True, not mobile
whats pt for?
im stupid. Nah mando will never top Rex, not sure he can even get close to Arti
mando has a chance if he gets better mobility. With his new m2 doing 533% (repeating of course) per second thats better than rex's 450%, not to mention the high % nades
actually nvm I forgot about rex's armor breaking bullshit
next seed's ethereal shitpost I should use the ethereal skill for extra funk
range is the name of the game imo
you cant blast the crystals with mando, and dont forget rex's M1 weakens which buffs dmg
nade trickshots for crystals
yeah rex seems pretty optimal for prismatic. very long range, armor reduction + really high dmg without items, okay mobility and can get highground and some shift tricks on crystals and jump pads for even faster movement trough map
range is a great thing, but arti has infinitely more range than merc but merc can beat her by a lot
merc is broken mobility, arti's main dmg has less rnage tham merc's ;')
also rex has the added + that he can boop dune striders and grovetenders off the map if you get the seed
they completely screwed arti over with the skills 2.0 update
idk i think shes still pretty OP
nah she sucks ass, with the regen nerf and the amount of wisps spawning in base game a cd based character cant keep up
you can one tap whisps if ur aim and timing is good. I wanna see the new M1 1 shot them tho
- new R is best survivability skill in the game by far
I mean the m1 1taps them for a while but after a while it doesnt, especially if you're not lucky enough to get a crowbar
if u scale stages fast enough it will 1 tap them all the way to S5 without items
still thats 4 wisps out of 25097854397072830
5* + if u scale some crowbars you can clear them all out of the skies with M2
she is deffo a high skill character on monsoon now but imo probably the second or third best after mando and rex
also with her new R, all the survivability in the world doesnt mean shit when you literally can't kill anything
if only you could quarantee a headstompers drop, then after the change that is apparently coming (cast with e instead of holding spacebar) it will be quite strong with arti alt R
it helps you get places faster on most maps, less time spent looking for stuff. and m1 and m2 already do enough dmg early on
get a primordial cube and headstompers from the skybox
whose ur fav @slim lintel
Arti, I have over 250 hours on her
same bruh
I hate that commando is in a better spot than her atm idk how that happened
is commando actually considered good now?
she's gotten progressively worse every update
I am confused tho, I always hear rex is low tier and now you said its top tier?
rex is SSS+++ tier
rex has near infinite range with great mobility and a built in giant armor debuff. You can just sit out of bounds every single map and snipe everything
and a built in primordial cube
I wish dreaming next stage from bazaar didnt cost 3 lunars, if it was 1 I'd choose siren's call everytime
yeah Rex is deffo best character, but high skill ceiling and low skill floor
turn out a ~585% spammable aoe nuke with a built in primordial cube is pretty good
is that how the numbers work out with the armour debuff? Wish that was stackable...
I've figured with very little testing the armor debuff gives you about 30% more damage
idk how accurate it is
the shattering justice stacks with it right?
I'd think so
so at the very start of the game all your kjaro bands and missiles and shit are doing 30% more damage than any other character
rex is busted
close to 40% actually
2-100/(100-30)
nvm
23% extra
553 yh ur right
- extra dmg on M1 and all procs
well my test was hop on and shoot a titan before he got a debuff and after he had the debuff and the difference between the meteors damage was 30%
reported this to devs?
idk how armor works so it may be more effective on things like titans that have more armor
Armor is a mostly obscured stat from the player. It applies a damage reduction on damage taken if you have it, and a damage increase if you have a negative amount. This applies to all damage...
also rex has armour, so thats nice
titan has 20 armor, rex's ability reduces armor by 30. And someone in here told me armor works in the negatives to you advantage so that gives the titan -10 armor which in its self would be 9.09 extra % I believe
you need to be comparing dmg vs armoured target with dmg vs neg armour
59 vs 45 base vs titan
same on beetle queen I just tried it again
holy shit lmao, looked on the wiki to check her armor stat and found these degenerate ass comments
step on me and fart on me mommy stinky farts


mods halp pls
omg 😭 the beetle queen
is so hot 😳 
booben pls. im the horny one here
if youve never done a PT under 2 minutes you are not allowed to lewd
what are you bad at specifically
not getting hit i'd guess
the W A S and D keys may be used to move your character. If you see an attack coming your way press the W A S or D key to move and dodge it
can be countered with 2 words-lesser wisp
can be counter countered with 2 words - git gud
can be counter counter countered with 2 words - no u
Took me more than a dozen tries but I did Ethereal. It's not too bad if you persevere
on this seed at least
Siren's call into Rallypoint Delta especially with Fuel Cell as TP reward is an excellent combination
Also the 2 missile drones are extremely helpful in both drawing aggro and dealing with wisps
and other undesirables
yea the past two seeds have been braindead easy, almost like it's been done on purpose 🤔
the seed before that required a bit more thinking though
I don't think theres any strings being pulled on the seeds, there's probably been plenty of good setups in the past we just never noticed or had it even cross our minds
yea i mean i've only done the last 3 seeds and i've found a route for all of them
i still think every seed is possible
6th hour of trying ethereal, worst is I can't even tell when I took damage to health, already several times did it look like I only took shield damage, but I can never tell when I actually took hp damage and should've restarted
do the clay pot tendrils or fire burn hp directly?
ignoring shields?
taking shield damage counts as going below 100% health in my experience
huh
only if you have transcendence does it count as damage towards merc's achievement
Well, I am almost certain I didn't take hp damage in at least 2-3 runs now, but again, there's literally no way for me to tell when it happens that I fail
well then I guess I had taken literally one damage past shield and immediately regenerated it back in one of my attempts
my fav moment is when I'm setting up a crystal to dash through it and crit, destroying it, damaging my hp
yeah that is pretty bad but there are setups to not do that
just left click a couple of times then eviscerate
using crystals for extra dashes isn't worth it if you're going for ethereal
this trial is short enough that you shouldn't need to worry much about resetting anyway
is hte current prismatic trial easy for the mercenary challenge ,
I've been doing it for 6-7 hours but that's not an indicator of anything
fuck man I give up
the current pt is pretty good since theres a fuel cell + preon for the second stage
check the pins if u want a video guide
yeah 2 weeb certified walkthroughs and one normie one
tfw not being a weeb makes me a normie
guess which one has the most views
its mine which is hilarious since its purposefully shitty
hm, I recorded my run and watched it like 3 times now, I cut it extremely close shield to hp wise at least 3 times


