#prismatic-trials

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silver swift
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Aaaand then I do it flawlessly, then take fall damage.

unkempt grotto
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regardless of if it's relatively easy for this seed

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this challenge is not fun, mercenary is not a character meant to be going flawless 0 hits, you have to go ham with him

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some of these other challenges are fairly inline with the characters' playstyle imo, but merc isn't a fun character for a 0-hit challenge, the only reason this seed is even playable is because you get a brooch and the one boss you can just sit still on top of and use as cover

silver swift
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If we ever get Sniper back itd be a more fitting challenge for them imo

unkempt grotto
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taking two points of fall damage as i'm avoiding 3 wisps and a golem beam is not fun

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i love this character but jesus christ this challenge does not strike me as a good addition to the game, I want to stop playing this prismatic trial but i'm probably not getting a better chance at this ability unlock

silver swift
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I'm not evn getting to the second stage damageless, hah

patent chasm
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I want miner or acrid back

unkempt grotto
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"===Stuff We Are Working On===
• Making sure the balance of the game is where it needs to be, and that the new challenges provide a good but fun goal to strive for" i really hope this is what they're talking about, please just make it 75% or something sweet jesus

cyan stratus
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dude the challenge isn't too hard, a challenge is supposed to be hard

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this is by far the easiest seed

silver swift
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This is a challenge to unlock something innate for the character.

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It shouldn't feel like an unfun slog.

cyan stratus
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ok and if you dont like doing hard challenges just edit the skill in

patent chasm
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I would rather do the stay over 100% health than do the commando ones

silver swift
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Some of us don't like to cheat in achievements, Cabbage.

cyan stratus
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yea i don't either, but it's not a mandatory thing to do

unkempt grotto
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it's not that it's unfairly ridiculously hard, it's that it's inconsistent and frustrating in ways the normal game isnt

silver swift
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^^^^^

unkempt grotto
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like critting the crystal because of the 1% innate crit chance and insta-failing

silver swift
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Oh my GOD yes.

cyan stratus
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but like you can just bring the crystal to 40% and use the eviscerate thing

silver swift
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That's not the point.

unkempt grotto
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second stage i've had the fire ring proc on the crystals and fail it for me a couple times as well

cyan stratus
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you can do 2 slashes and eviscerate and you never get that problem

silver swift
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Again, not the point. The point is that this challenge brings so many factors that aren't even normally thought of into the equation, and even a single TICK of damage without a barrier will send you back to the start.

cyan stratus
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ok but that's not a problem if you just don't get hit

unkempt grotto
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'just don't get hit'

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okay thanks i didn't realize i had to do that

silver swift
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Ah yes, the old elitist prick's "git gud lul" argument.

cyan stratus
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i'm not elitist?? it's actually as simple as keep moving in a straight line if something is shooting an aimed thing at you

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and with tesla coil you get so much brooch shield you can't die

unkempt grotto
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yeah once you get to the tesla

silver swift
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My dude, it can be LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to dodge some attacks.

unkempt grotto
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that's once again, not the issue

cyan stratus
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ok but that's what the brooch and iframes are for

unkempt grotto
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i'm glad you're trying to explain away my frustration here with things i'm not frustrated by

silver swift
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AGAIN. NOT THE GODDAMN POINT.

unkempt grotto
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the brooch doesn't give you enough to get past any of the damage in the first stage

cyan stratus
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i even made a video, just do what i do

unkempt grotto
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it's a good video, yes

silver swift
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"Just replicate my movements 1 for 1, no deviation whatsoever"

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You realize what you're asking, right?

unkempt grotto
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your route is solid, but once again, that's not the issue, the issue is that jumping through hoops to avoid 2 damage isn't a fun addition to mercenary

cyan stratus
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fun is subjective, if you don't like challenging stuff then maybe you won't find it fun

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i dont like this challenge either but for different reasons

silver swift
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There's a difference between a challenge and what feels like pure RNG.

unkempt grotto
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i don't like this specific 'challenge' and the challenge the rest of the game offers

cyan stratus
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there's no rng involved in this

silver swift
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And once this seed's over, it WILL be pure RNG.

unkempt grotto
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this is really off-brand for the kind of challenge i like from RoR2

cyan stratus
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if you do the same thing every time you get the same spawns, most rng is the kjaro

unkempt grotto
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what about the 0-2 vulture spawns by vagrant?

cyan stratus
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this challenge is possible for every seed though, doesn't really matter

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if you go fast you don't get the vultures

silver swift
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It's starting to feel like you're intentionally misunderstanding us.

cyan stratus
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< ~45s

unkempt grotto
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fair

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but this challenge annoys me not because it's "hard", i'm having a good time getting the monsoon skins, even though commando was a pain in the ass it's still the game

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this is avoiding wisps and standing still on top of vagrant, my least favorite part of the game, i respect that you got such a good route together for this seed, but it's still a pain in the ass that doesn't feel rewarding in the same way as the rest of the game

cyan stratus
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you can pretty much 1shot the vagrant though with some luck

unkempt grotto
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yes, with luck

cyan stratus
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if you dont like sitting on top of a vagrant then reset a couple times until you get it

unkempt grotto
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when you can get the inconsistent bumping mechanic to spike him on the rocks right, and if i fuck up and blow up a crystal next stage too early i need to reset, that's my main complaint

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i've been resetting for 2 hours, monsoon commando was a better time than this

silver swift
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For me, the main complaint is how reliant this seed is on so many factors beyind most players' control.

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Seed, minor RNG sources, spawns, wonky physics in this case.

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This kind of stuff just doesn't feel good for most players.

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I don't care that this is pretty much the perfect seed.

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It's not a fun challenge.

cyan stratus
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1st stage is possible no hit with pretty much every seed and there's so many options with bazaar etc that you'd be hard pressed to find a seed that isn't possible

silver swift
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That's. Not. The. Point.

unkempt grotto
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i'm having a bad time because now i have to notice and fret over very minor things i happily ignored before, and the punishment is pretty severe for messing up, the first stage is alright tbh

cyan stratus
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ok but your point is that it isn't fun which is completely subjective

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it's like i'm arguing with someone about apples being better than oranges

unkempt grotto
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no, i'm saying it's not fun because it's much more punishing

silver swift
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Bingo.

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It feels TOO punishing.

cyan stratus
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ok but in my opinion the harder something is the more fun it is to a certain extent so again it's just a matter of opinion

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if something is punishing it's good when you finally do it

silver swift
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This is absolutely a case of artificial difficulty, considering so many goddamn variables to consider.

unkempt grotto
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i'm certainly going to be glad not to have to do this anymore

silver swift
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In all reality, there's probably a way to flawless every trial, yes. Is it going to be fun for 90% of the playerbase to constantly grind for absolute perfection on a single seed? No.

cyan stratus
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that's what this seed is for

unkempt grotto
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also, as a small gripe, i really like the uppercut but it also keeps smashing my head into the ceiling and damaging me

cyan stratus
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there's like 3 routes to pick from

silver swift
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And what happens when this seed's gone?

unkempt grotto
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they fixed this for the R ability

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hopefully the self-damage on the uppercut goes too

silver swift
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What are you going to say then? "Just wait for a better seed"?

cyan stratus
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if you don't feel like grinding it out on a harder seed just wait

silver swift
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Read you like a goddamn book.

cyan stratus
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ok but what else do you want me to say

unkempt grotto
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you're allowed to like this challenge, i can't go ahead and take your opinion from you, but i just wish a slightly higher margin of error was allowed

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i got it done, nearly, didn't even know i took some hit between barriers during stage 2, i had 14 damage taken total

cyan stratus
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well if you get hit you can just reset

silver swift
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At this point it feels like I'm just grinding my head against a wall of sandpaper trying to convince you just why this challenge isn't good from a design standpoint.

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Most players aren't in this discord.

cyan stratus
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but i agree with that?

silver swift
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Most players aren't going to look for every single seed's video on someone getting it flawless.

cyan stratus
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this challenge isn't good because prismatic trials are supposed to be completed fast, the point of this achievement is to go slow

unkempt grotto
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i didn't even know i got hit, but i'm pretty sure it happened right at the end, anyway i get that this is me asking to have the challenge catered to me, but a 90% threshold would let you goof around for maybe a papercut's worth of fall damage

cyan stratus
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if you don't wanna watch a video of someone doing it then they can just route it themselves

unkempt grotto
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i kind of thought that too

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merc never struck me as great for the prismatic trial to begin with, i always use arti

cyan stratus
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rex is the best if you wanna do it fast

silver swift
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And then not even ten minutes ago you were just saying you have toget to the teleporter in 45 seconds this seed.

unkempt grotto
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ahhh, yeah i forget about rex

silver swift
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Which is it, go fast or go slow?

cyan stratus
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well if you dont wanna go fast then you can just kill the vultures

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i meant you can go slow for stage 2

unkempt grotto
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yeah stage 2 is a lot easier once you get the gunner drone to pull some fire

silver swift
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You mean the same stage 2 with wisps that can start charging their hitscan attack the moment they spawn and end your attempt instantly?

cyan stratus
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ok, you hear them start to do their attack so you use an iframe ability

silver swift
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In the rest of the chaos that is this game?

cyan stratus
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yea you can look around and if you see a wisp you know it's aggro'd or not

silver swift
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Again.

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Wisps can spawn and INSTANTLY start charging their attack.

cyan stratus
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ok i think i got hit once in s2 but if you kill some stuff that's what brooch is for

unkempt grotto
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you're pretty much fucked if you don't save dash for the wisps, to that end the uppercut is nice because it one-shots the jellyfish pretty cleanly

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so you don't have to waste it on those

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just went down to 223/224 on some wisps DrizzleCry

cyan stratus
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just rush tesla coil and you're safe

unkempt grotto
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ty for the route tbh, i had no clue about the tesla

silver swift
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And on top of everything this challenge throws at players, I'm talking from the perspective of someone with attention and auditory processing disorders. With how chaotic this game is, my focus is being forced to split between my health bar, my character, the environment, the enemies, visual cues, et fucking cetera. It's next to impossible for me to focus on all of that AND the execution to get it done.

unkempt grotto
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i've got it mostly figured out, it's just the grind of not messing anything up

soft acorn
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Tesla brooch and double glass on the market

unkempt grotto
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and the very minor differences in spawn location based on how long it took to kill crystals

soft acorn
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This seed is the easiest by far

cyan stratus
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tesla and glass??

soft acorn
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Yup

cyan stratus
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didn't know there's a tesla on both s2's

soft acorn
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Double glss

unkempt grotto
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shiiiiiiet

soft acorn
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You get the same s2 if u reenter portal after bazzar without dreaming

cyan stratus
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did they change that between last seed and this one?

soft acorn
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But I havent tested, I dreamt and rushed the boss with glass

cyan stratus
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since it wasn't like that 2 days ago

slim lintel
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oh boy more salt

soft acorn
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Maybe ur right, ill have to doublecheck. That means 4 total s2 options per seed instead of 3

cyan stratus
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4 ??

soft acorn
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No newt, newt and portal and 2 newt dreams

cyan stratus
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no, dream is the same as alt s2

soft acorn
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I think its 3 but ill test

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It wasn't last seed

cyan stratus
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i tested last seed pretty well and i'm pretty sure it was

unkempt grotto
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yeah but @slim lintel tell me you didn't get salty before you got it

cyan stratus
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me and him did it first seed which was easy

unkempt grotto
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i get i'm moaning about it but i have tried to be pretty civil in how i'm complaining

slim lintel
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All I know is I just saw someone complaining it was too hard because of their own health/mental issues and thats just dumb, it's a challenge there's no way for them to balance it around that

cyan stratus
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i mean tbh this challenge is pretty hard for blind people

unkempt grotto
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playing mercenary in braille would be a pretty big flex

slim lintel
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they need to just make pressing Drizzle at any point unlock everything since people seem to hate any challenge or sense of accomplishment

cyan stratus
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i really didn't expect this much complaining since people can just edit the file if they don't like challenging stuff

slim lintel
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but how do to edit de xml i no not compotur

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wat iz de googal

unkempt grotto
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i feel like the people complaining do want a challenge since they aren't just editing it in

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but this is a pretty different challenge from the rest of the game

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i shut up and nutted up when i had to get brainstalks but this is something new and i'm having a rough time getting dicked on by the one wisp i couldn't reach

slim lintel
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I agree with that, but its what the game is and who knows if they'll change it

unkempt grotto
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i'm just mad i got all the way to the end with 14 damage taken

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if i hadn't taken a tiny hit during s2 i'd probably just be in here thanking yall for putting up a route but i'm still struggling through it

slim lintel
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I mean a challenge should take multiple tries, the challenges in general are way too easy and most of them you'll randomly get on accident or general play. The worst thing about the merc challenge is they tied it to prismatic trials where it doesnt make sense. Though in their dev thoughts they said they were very happy to see people routing the challenge etc so I think it was a really weird really bad way of trying to spark up the pt community and it back fired

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We just wanna go fast

cyan stratus
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ur good at rex, beat the titan before the hp levelup i cant do it

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i tried like 10 times

slim lintel
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sorry I'm saving my m2 finger for marriage

cyan stratus
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i dont think you have to worry about that look at ur pfp

slim lintel
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at least I don't confuse apples for cherries

unkempt grotto
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yeah it's nice that they made people outside the core audience care about prismatic trial, but merc is not my man for the trial, i'd probably sooner die than try to set a competitive time over a ranged character

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he's only fast enough to steal your friend's item purchases, not to zip between crystals in the time it takes to shoot them

slim lintel
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There's been some very respectable times with merc before

cyan stratus
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i'm gonna say it

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merc can get a faster time than rex with a double vagrant trial

unkempt grotto
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with the bumping thing?

slim lintel
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cirThink I tried for like 20 mins to yeet a vagrant and I couldnt get it a single time

cyan stratus
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big dps

unkempt grotto
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also what's the deal with the blue fog wall

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is that just a low shader setting or something?

cyan stratus
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idk

unkempt grotto
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like in your vid you've just got some blue blocking up that cave

cyan stratus
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bad settings probably

slim lintel
unkempt grotto
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need 5000fps for millisecond timing perfect item purchase

cyan stratus
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oh no

unkempt grotto
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need cheat engine for it as well

cyan stratus
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lol that's why i have input overlay

unkempt grotto
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to show the elegance of your automated script

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i wonder if it's even possible to script the vagrant instakill

cyan stratus
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no

unkempt grotto
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is it a matter of distance?

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like afaik i only get it when i'm a certain bit above it but what's the actual deal with it

slim lintel
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I was trying to find a consistent setup for it this trial but I couldnt get it at all

cyan stratus
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when you slam the vagrant into a wall the game rolls 2 dice and if it's a 5 the vagrant takes damage

slim lintel
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ah shit I was only rolling 1 dice

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and it was a d4

cyan stratus
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tfw 1 dice

unkempt grotto
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i just flip a coin to see whether or not i get hit by vulture through the top of the vagrant

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usually not actually a big deal but offputting the 2 or so times it happens

cyan stratus
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but like uhhhhhhh

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just go fast and it doesn't spawn

unkempt grotto
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they're nasty up close too tho! like even if you close distance with r sometimes they just hit you perfectly out of your iframes

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yeah the better option than praying that they don't hit is just to be fast enough that bird doesn't spawn

slim lintel
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remember the good 'ol days where you could cheese the shit outta overloading elites

cyan stratus
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true

unkempt grotto
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finally got it

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@cyan stratus thank you for route

cyan stratus
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np

boreal ether
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I unlocked the Mercenary's Ethereal challenge but i have a few question regarding the Wandering Vagrant. When i attacked the boss that had 50% hp with Rising Thunder it immediately died. Is this a bug or is there like a weak spot on the Wandering Vagrant? (Items that i had were: Topaz Brooch x2 and Kjaro's Band)

cyan stratus
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yeah

boreal ether
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So its a bug?

rough orchid
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its because its a flying enemy into a wall

warm vapor
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I was just going to guess that, but not sure how it's calculated with the damage and whatnot. Maybe you pushed it into the wall and the game insta-killed it since it was out of bounds?

boreal ether
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Wait. So enemies that get pushed into walls take more damage or is it like an insta kill?

cyan stratus
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yeah

jovial fog
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tl:dr me, is this a good trail to go for ethereal?

glacial sage
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idunno if people have found a consistent way to slam the big jelly, but if you dash at it right at the very top of its model it will be pushed down, if you do this while it is close to ground it will recieve tons of dmg and even be insta killed

boreal ether
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Yes. This trial provides 2 Topaz Brooches at the start. And at the second round if you go to the shrine of chance on the second attempt you get the electric coil item ( the one that shock enemies) this is good cause it automatically kills nearby enemies and gives you a barrier due to the brooches

jovial fog
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Thanks, that was a good run.

boreal ether
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Did you manage to do it?

viscid fiber
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I’m still having trouble passing the first boss. I get the first two crystals and then I fall down and grab the band and then head towards the treasure chest outside that has the topaz brooch and jump up on the hill and get the last crystal and usually get hit on my way to the teleporter

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Something.

rose briar
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I finally got the skill, I may not enjoy this as a trial for a skill but the least I can say is that having watched some others it at least taught me on new cool merc tech I wasn't aware of.

If I got to see that from other characters too it might be interesting.

viscid fiber
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Someone needs to tell me that it’s a waste of time to go for the Ukulele.

rose briar
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well I tried to use it for this but it didn't seem to really help in the next area (since I wasn't using the lunar shop)
It is good for the first boss if you are ontop of it as it can hit and kill enemies on the roof to give you more armor.

The second area benefits more from the will-o-wisp since we have the Tesla for killing nearby enemies. it honestly won me that chev. I do find it easier to go back and get after killing the first boss though

signal mulch
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is there a way to actually look at the best times ?

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or whether or not you're in the top 10% for that matter?

cyan stratus
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no

signal mulch
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Blunt but insightful

rose briar
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Maybe in the future hopefully

viscid fiber
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Honestly I’m trying different ways to attack this map and the best go of it for my progress has been grabbing the one topaz our in the field next to the tp and just going for it.

rose briar
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It is pretty good to just go for it, but after a while you become more skilled at dealing with all of that and can slowly add a few more things to your arsenal.

viscid fiber
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That’s what I’m thinking. I just hope I can get what I need to get before 42 hours is up lol

rose briar
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At the end I was grabbing that same topaz and the band in the tri shop right before it and using the other alt skill to quickly climb up and hit the crystal on top of the cave, then dropping down and grabbing the other topaz running to the tp and waiting a tiny bit to see if any birds showed up to deal with then fight the boss.
After that I'd run to the will-o-wisp shop grab it and go back to TP.
Then I'd break the two crystals near me in area two, kill a few enemies for temp hp and run the crystal straight ahead, alt skill and then use eviscerate to kill crystal 3.
After that I ran around the back while getting temp hp from enemies that might hit me (wisps or lizardmen) and getting to the tesla and sticky bomb shrine.
Finally than I went to TP and waited a little to get more a bit more temp hp and fought that final boss of the run.

viscid fiber
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I can’t do it. I get more tense with each run and knowing that I have to spend my day off hoping and grinding for a map I can run is making me just not like it anymore. I used to go on these huge ridiculous runs with my friends. Now I just hate myself and this game. I’m a grouchy old man now.

kindred hull
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man you should tried it last trial

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that one was almost impossible

cyan stratus
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nah you could cheese last trial easy

knotty zenith
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this week a good week to do the mercenary unlock?

viscid fiber
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@knotty zenith no idea...but it’s easier by comparison.

tepid lagoon
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if you have trouble in s1 you should wait for next trail

cyan stratus
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if you have trouble in s1 you should hack the achievement in

tepid lagoon
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^ true

kindred hull
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I got it on my third try in this set

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Topaz makes it too easy when you get the tesla

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first two tries were both just getting hit by vagrant

orchid storm
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where s the tesla

stable torrent
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im confused, in my second stage the tele is on the side of the island and the chance shrine with the tesla just isn't there at all, anybody know why? the first stage seems identical, although the wisps on stage 2 are giving me an aneurysm

tepid lagoon
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have you open the shop

rose briar
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I've had it happen without opening the shop though it seemed like I took longer or got more items that run.

As for Frostygale, that does tend to happen if you go to the shop but in place of the tesla you can buy a royal cap and with the increased damage (I assume you would choose that in the shop) you can eat through the second boss's health.

stable torrent
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Ah okay, I thought it was possible to get both the Tesla and the cap, but ty for explaining, I was super pissed after getting dinked by one elite wisp right before I killed the boss

pulsar heron
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is the current trial any good to get mercs skill?

autumn glade
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yes

chrome thunder
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absolutely

pulsar heron
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how much time left

chrome thunder
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34 hours

pulsar heron
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enough..m

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ok ty guys

chrome thunder
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gl

pulsar heron
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will need

chrome thunder
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dw its not that hard

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you get 2 topaz

icy urchin
slim lintel
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use cabbages vid that one is cringe, dude doesnt even use his cds properly

tepid lagoon
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at least it prove this route is easy

kind path
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someone please stab me

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random lizard shot me 1 sec before going through 2nd tele

fervent stag
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That means you will complete the challenge in the next couple runs probably

kind path
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i said the same thing about the last suitable seed

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guess where i am right now

slim lintel
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you shoulda had a full hp bar worth of shield when you hit s2 tele to end it

kind path
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well

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i didnt

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also tried the stage 1 route with picking up both of brooches

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it makes alloy vultures spawn

tough belfry
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you can take items after s1 boss is dead?

kind path
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yes

tough belfry
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2:45 ethereal should be possible

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maybe faster if you skip brooch drizzle_hmm

dusty karma
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I don't have enough mobs spawning during s2

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Too slow?

tough belfry
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idk

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if you have enough coins (cheated) then the 2x glass route should be easier

dusty karma
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eh

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More costly if I fail that one though

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I guess I'll just wait a bit after getting tesla for shit to spawn before hitting tele

tough belfry
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it is really bad that stuff costs lunar coins in prismatic trials

dusty karma
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Huh?

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I didn't say it was bad, I just don't have that many lunar coins

tough belfry
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nah i'm saying it's bad

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it completely goes against the idea of optimising your time in trials when you're limited by lunar coins

dusty karma
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ah yeah

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I guess so

tough belfry
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since for some trials they're necessary (e.g. glass in lunar pod) and you can go through loads of coins resetting for a decent run

dense sierra
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@cyan stratus what is your best run on this trial?

cyan stratus
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i didn't really get a good time since i couldn't get it before the titan levelled up

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but i think i have like a 1:54 or so

dense sierra
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have you tried new caracter

cyan stratus
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yes

dense sierra
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if you slam up on vagrant you get big DMG

cyan stratus
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you get better than 1:50 with that?

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i think the automatic 30 seconds you have to spend on titan cancels everything out

dense sierra
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rn i have 2:28 maybe you can slam titan into rock?

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have been doing runs for about an hour

cyan stratus
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idk go do it, i don't think loader can ever beat rex

dense sierra
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what is rex time?

cyan stratus
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probably 1:45 on a good run but i have about 1:54

tough belfry
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for loader taking the portal may be better even if just to show off cool loader portal strats

cyan stratus
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reminder that going through portal adds 6.72+~6s

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so because time doesn't stop it's pretty much never something you do

tough belfry
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2x glass just seems worth it to me

dense sierra
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i feel like spiderman with loader if you can controll it he is probably the fastest moving caracter

dusty karma
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Where is the second topaz?

tough belfry
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in the cave by the teleporter?

cyan stratus
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ok but like my guy think of how long it takes to get the 2 glass

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you can kill 3 titans in the time it takes to walk there and back

dense sierra
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i killed first boss and teleported in 53 sec but choked on second boss

tough belfry
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that's where the cool portal strats come in

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you can activate portal then grab glass

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saving walking time

cyan stratus
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no you can't

tough belfry
#

!?!?!?

cyan stratus
#

lunar coins go to 0, and it's too little time

#

tough belfry
dense sierra
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if you time the punch up at just the right time you do 3/4 health almost oneshot

tough belfry
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do that with money saving from stage 1 to make portal take longer and you should be able to get both glass

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maybe it isn't worth it but it would look cool :(

cyan stratus
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i thought both gold and coins go to 0 when you go through a portal

tough belfry
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probably just a visual thing

cyan stratus
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ok well the best way to prove that it doesn't lose time is to do it yourself (:

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go get a 1:30 or smth

tough belfry
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D:

dense sierra
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you i think i can get sub 1:40 but just worked night shift and have not slept so gonna go pass out

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you=yo

cyan stratus
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y'know people always say that kind of stuff but never actually go through with it

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go prove me wrong i guess

dusty karma
#

Nice, I managed to do it

tough belfry
#

nice

dusty karma
#

Thanks everyone

tough belfry
#

uhh i have no idea how to slam the vagrant with loader

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but just getting to the teleporter seems too slow

slim lintel
#

I can get there faster with l loader than arti, and s1 is basically a top tier stage for arti :<

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loader just suuuuuucks at killing bosses without items though so she'll never be actually viable

cyan stratus
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i tried loader and get to 1st in 21sec but can't do anything vs bosses

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ok i got a 2:17 lol this character sucks

tough belfry
#

sub 2 probably possible if i stop yeeting myself off of stage 2

cyan stratus
#

2:01.47

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i still dont know what to do to kill the vagrant

tough belfry
#

same

cyan stratus
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i dont think you can 1tap the vagrant

tough belfry
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maybe kjaro + slamming if slamming actually works

cyan stratus
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until some video proves otherwise i choose to believe slamming isn't a thing

slim lintel
#

I'd try to find loader tech but that would require playing loader 🤢

cyan stratus
#

go beat my 2:01

slim lintel
#

nah

tough belfry
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found the vagrant one shot

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my zapper thing added a load of time

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but 1:53:33

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could also be faster with a kjaro proc against the titan but who wants to farm that

dusty karma
#

How'd you one shot the vagrant?

tough belfry
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kjaro

dusty karma
#

No slam then?

tough belfry
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no i can't figure it out and it probably doesn't exist

dusty karma
#

ah

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Attempting Ethereal over the past week has made me want to actually get into trials

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Seems to be the place where all the cool kids are peepoSmile

hexed willow
#

if only Loader's R targeted crystals

tough belfry
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1:48

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could be 6 seconds? faster

warm vapor
#

In case anybody wants to know my run:
Stage 1: First two crystals on bridge, Kjaro, Ukulele, Crystal on broken structure, outside brooch, inside brooch, boss.
Stage 2: First two crystals, drone right by crystals, jump up to the bridge to the upper level, shrine of chance for Teddy, 3rd crystal by boss, do the boss and good luck. Keep killing enemies.

tough belfry
#

nice

hexed willow
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Ethereal get

little star
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congratss

paper dome
#

this challenge is driving me crazy, i get close to the first boss then get sniped by the birds

cyan stratus
#

loader can get 1:20

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like 1/10000 chance

paper dome
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the second boss got through....

tough belfry
#

loader crit kjaro farming new meta

cyan stratus
#

1:44

slim lintel
#

next character they add will have one of their abilities be a giant nuke that destroys all the crystals on the whole map and teleports you to the teleporter

cyan stratus
#

oh hell yeah

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5sec cooldown?

slim lintel
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nah 1s like rex

paper dome
#

maybe have the homing spears for engi as a alt to his grenades

slim lintel
#

Spears should have been the m2 instead of mines since the game launched

paper dome
#

true

slim lintel
#

this game doesnt cater to the "mine" playstyle at all

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the devs themselves said they found themselves just chucking them like grenades yet they give us an alt skill thats just more mines basically

cyan stratus
#

guess loader is better than rex after all

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just need runald/kjaro and 100 attempts

slim lintel
#

if you call farming a 1/10000 chance an upgrade

cyan stratus
#

rex is capped at about 1:45

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loader is capped at 1:20

paper dome
#

any tips for the merc challenge? ive been following the route mentioned earlier

cyan stratus
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just watch my video and do what i do

paper dome
#

already see my first mistake, im using the alt m2

cyan stratus
paper dome
#

that tesla coil thou

tough belfry
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if you grapple to the vagrant then punch it while moving fast you do more damage (enough to one shot)

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i'm pretty sure

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my best s1 was 5 seconds faster or something

cyan stratus
#

nah it's just because i stumbled at the teleporter twice

naive topaz
#

is this prismatic good for ethereal ?

tough belfry
#

ye

naive topaz
#

does taking a tick of fall damage but it does 0 damage count as taking damage

tough belfry
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if you take damage yes

dense sierra
#

@cyan stratus yo was that was clipping damage on the titan

cyan stratus
#

what

naive topaz
#

thankyou @icy urchin for posting that video. I know it wasnt yours but thanks for posting

icy urchin
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oh hey, grats!

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was it difficult? I got it 2 weeks ago when there was a topaz printer on 2nd stage, was fairly easy

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or was it last week?

naive topaz
#

that was 2 weeks ago

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this trial was soo ez i got it 2nd try

icy urchin
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oh right after the update was released

naive topaz
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ive spent over 5 hours trying on the bullshit trials without topaz though

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yeah that was right after update, the printer trial

icy urchin
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I got it in about an hour I think,

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but I'm most comfortable with merc

paper dome
pallid urchin
#

wait how tf do you get that

proud seal
#

What

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Impossible

cyan stratus
#

just watch my video this seed is easy

pallid urchin
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nvm i followed the video

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thx guys

slim lintel
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I'm really trying to like loader but I just cant at all. I honestly hate both of the chars they've added so far, if I don't like the next one or it breaks trials even further I'm just gonna drop this game entirely

pallid urchin
cyan stratus
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ok but if you dont like loader you're admitting you're bad

pallid urchin
#

loader is ok, I like the robot crab more

cyan stratus
#

loader 1:44 rex 1:54 🙃

pallid urchin
#

for normal gameplay*

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not trials

cyan stratus
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this is the prismatic trials channel sir

pallid urchin
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my bad lol

slim lintel
#

alright go do a loader trial without a band and see how it goes

pallid urchin
#

also how are you supposed to do a 2 stage trial in < 2 min

cyan stratus
#

it's the only way loader can compete

slim lintel
#

its almost as bad if not worse than preon crit meta

cyan stratus
#

i didn't record my subpar rex gameplay but i have a 1:44 loader i posted earlier

carmine path
#

Is there a video for the merc route this trial?

rose briar
#

Several Wizard

languid sequoia
#

There is a merc video for today trial, I already found 2 and I also about to post one

cyan stratus
#

watch my video easy route

carmine path
#

Can't find the links, you mind sending one?

cyan stratus
#

you can find my channel by clicking my profile

carmine path
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thanks!

sly lynx
#

ethereal isnt even good

gleaming grove
#

but why did it seem like the vagrant didnt attack at all except for the nuke

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and why didnt the titan do the laser even once

cyan stratus
#

top of the vagrant is a safespot, titan doesn't laser in close proximity

gleaming grove
#

seems like he lasers me no matter where i am

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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also i dont stand on the vagrant a lot but how is it a safe spot. wont the various exploding orbs still target you

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like theres no way it doesnt spawn that slow moving one with hp that jsut moves towards you no matter where you are

solemn tendon
#

how much time left for the trial to change?

cyan stratus
#

there's nothing stopping you from trying it yourself if you don't believe me

gleaming grove
#

i already have ethereal anyway, im just wondering why the bosses seemed so nonaggressive. ive never really seen them like that

cyan stratus
#

~20h

solemn tendon
#

oh fuk

cyan stratus
#

i run trials a lot so it's important to know the tricks to make bosses easier

gleaming grove
#

does the vagrant just not shoot anything at all when youre on top of it?

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like i dont get it

cyan stratus
#

nope it ignores you

gleaming grove
#

hm. okie doke

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ive absolutely never noted anything along the lines of titan not lasering in close range though, especially considering all the times ive avoided the laser by running in tight circles around him

solemn tendon
#

btw it's the third time the titan shoots me milliseconds before dying, is that normal or i'm just overly stupid?

cyan stratus
#

the titan continues its laser even if you go close, it can also target a faraway drone and switch its focus to you even if you're close

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titan has an attack pattern but nothing that makes it attack right before it dies

solemn tendon
#

i think it was the orb on his head tho

cyan stratus
#

yeah that shoots every x seconds

vagrant plank
#

just completed the ethereal mercenary challenge

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pretty dank

solemn tendon
#

with the current trial is relatively easy fortunately

vagrant plank
#

ye

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thank god for tesla coil

gleaming grove
#

thank god for having already done this on the first seed

cyan stratus
#

yea first seed was easy but why not delete the achievement from your xml file and do it again

gleaming grove
#

because no

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didnt you get that like 1:45 on that seed with rex

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ive been trying to remember/figure out how you killed the dunestrider so quickly without the accumulator. like, the succ should have given it so much armor and regen that it wouldve been impossible to kill it before it was done doing that

cyan stratus
#

which one?

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oh that one

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another boss manipulation, dunestrider only enters regen phase when below 1/4 health so just bait the dunestrider into going up, it doesn't enter regen phase when up and then burst it down

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rex does enough dps so no preon needed

gleaming grove
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yeah i just dont know enough about that boss manip shit. like if i tired it i wouldve just been slowed down by the succ for like

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how long does that go on? 1 0 secones? 15?

cyan stratus
#

took us a while to figure that one out

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when it goes up you have like 8 seconds or so to kill it (?)

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maybe closer to 5 idk

gleaming grove
#

of course i have 166 hours on the game and only just recently even realized the succ gives it armor in the first place

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ik 166 isnt all that impressive, i dont play it that much, im just saying i shouldve noticed sooner lmao

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like, within the first 50

cyan stratus
#

yeah the damage resistance is too much to get through so it's important to skip that

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you can also delay the dunestrider going up by forcing it to turn, it only goes up when turned towards you

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therefore you can choose to a certain extent when it goes up, at like 1/4hp

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not really needed anymore because rex does a bunch of dmg but it was needed when mult was the best

gleaming grove
#

personally though, considering im not typically trying to go as fast as possible, i just lure dunestrider over to a cliff and yeet him off with the rex blip

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yknow, the tar pits in aqueduct and the cliff edge in rallypoint

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just push it in for the instakill

cyan stratus
#

yea i wish we could use more strats like that but the characters do too much dmg for stuff like that to be viable

gleaming grove
#

well, its the easy way casually

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and its funny

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i simultaneously wonder why dunestrider is the only boss that takes knockback, and why it takes knockback in the first place

slim lintel
#

I found the dunestrider strat, it's my proudest stratdaddy accomplishment

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the long range one at least, cabbage found the spinning one

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actually nano boosting is my stratdaddy pride but it doesnt matter anymore because arti sucks ass and got an unneeded nerf

#

trials were a lot more fun before hopoo started adding characters that do way too much damage with way too much mobility

cyan stratus
#

ok but if kjaro/runald wasn't random loader would actually be fun to play

slim lintel
#

even if loader wasnt a cheeseball I wouldnt like them, the movement just feels clunky imo. Everything just feels so locked and out of your control

cyan stratus
#

it isn't

slim lintel
#

the only control you have is when you let go of the grapple and the direction/distance of your punch after either of those you have no control for about 3-20 seconds

cyan stratus
#

ok but like if you go on a plane you have no control of where you're going because you're not the pilot but you have full control over which plane ticket you buy and which plane you get on

fervent stag
#

hopoo feather is nice on loader as you can just use it to break the momentum if you go too far with punch after swing

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also on rex you can push grovetender just like clay dunestrider

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makes the scorched arches one of rex' better maps in normal gameplay since you have pretty high chance of getting either dunstrider/grovetender/horde of many ground based elites... I'm also curious if anyone has a full list of enemies you can push around as rex? Mostly if there is anyway to push around elder wisps/church bells or flying bosses, so far it seems you cant, but maybe I am just doing it wrong who knows

solemn tendon
#

any tips on how to properly avoid the bullets from the orb above the titan? i'm really tired of finally getting there just to get shot by that

bright dune
#

same help

fervent stag
#

time iframes, when you dont have iframes strafe around the titan far enough to not get hit by the shots, jump around, kill titan faster,

solemn tendon
#

he shots too fast to avoid his attacks with only shift and r

fervent stag
#

dont spend all iframes right away, try to spread it out

solemn tendon
#

yup

fervent stag
#

once you use your iframes go behind the rock for a few seconds or something?

solemn tendon
#

well i'll just keep trying

bright dune
#

its fucking hard

fervent stag
#

I think the 0orb is not permanent either

bright dune
#

its seems to be on cd

fervent stag
#

so you can also hide away for its duration if you are desperate

bright dune
#

this vvould be much easier if the titan didnt regen

fervent stag
#

oh yea

bright dune
#

hahaha.....

fervent stag
#

I forgot overloading

solemn tendon
#

yeah...

fervent stag
#

it will use it when its around half hp I think so focus your dmg to finish it as fast as you can after half

bright dune
#

i cant do it, i vveill have to vvait for nevv seed

fervent stag
#

next seed is very likely to be even harder just saying

bright dune
#

as long as its not overloading

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its fine

fervent stag
#

you can also try to be faster in the overall run since the titan will get tankier with time

bright dune
#

i have route and items planned out, just seems so rng dodging the bullets and stopping regen at the same time

fervent stag
#

the topaz brooch barrier with tesla coil should also help you block few hits

bright dune
#

i vvas close, teddi saved me once

solemn tendon
#

well i'm starting to hate this

bright dune
#

but not tvvice

solemn tendon
#

more specifically, the orb

#

this seed is not even that hard

#

it's just that damn orb

fervent stag
#

if you stay in air and move around a lot its less likely to hit you

bright dune
#

i guess u can time jumps vvith its shottting

#

does it keep shooting at the same rate?

fervent stag
#

yes

#

same rate and the shots wont track your movement

#

on ground it can splash even if it misses tho I think

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but yea if you have both topaz brooches and teslacoil killing the trash mobs around you should have enough barrier to block 1-3 shots in the fight and iframes can be timed when barrier is too low and you can spread the shift dashes out a bit to wait out until the shot actually comes

solemn tendon
#

all that for an useless alt

#

but still happy

tough belfry
#

nice

fervent stag
#

just the feeling of completing the challenge is nice and its not useless. Just not as good as regular R. Imo it can still be used, hopefully they make it scale with attackspeed too so it will be a semiviable choice.

cyan stratus
#

you can dodge the titan's attacks by just not getting hit

solemn tendon
#

omg why i didn't think about it

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also thanks cabbage for the video guide, helped alot

cyan stratus
#

np

sullen light
#

one tip for gents trying to do the mercenary alt ult. Go for the alloy worship unit in todays trial and use your utility to ram the unit in the ground. They get fall damage and you can potentially one shot it. Also that skips the first stage vandering vagrant and gives you a frozen thingie (don't know the name) instead of a rose buckler.

stable torrent
#

i give up, took a random 6 damage while i was on the vagrant and i have no idea what caused it; gonna wait for another easy seed even if i know it'll probably take a month or two

warped warren
#

is this seed good for the merc challange?

stable torrent
#

yeah, stage 1 has 2 brooches and stage 2 has a tesla

warped warren
#

wheres the second brooche

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i know one is next to the tp

stable torrent
#

the other is in the cave

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by the big chest

warped warren
#

thanks my guy

stable torrent
#

no prob

warped warren
#

@stable torrent yo do you know where the tesla is on stage 2?

tough belfry
#

shrine by the teleporter

warped warren
#

got it

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i got the ukulele and two brooches on stage one and i got the tesla on stage two = infinite shield

surreal mountain
#

i've made it yesterday... that tesla coil was an awesome easy mode

thin timber
nova chasm
#

What's the strategy for this seed?

icy urchin
nova chasm
#

Thank u

icy urchin
#

thank him

nova chasm
#

god i fucking hate wisps that spawn out of reach

nova chasm
#

i love clipping through things and taking damage

delicate tusk
#

does this trial contain imp overlord?

stable torrent
#

no

solemn tendon
#

oh

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there were more brooches

cyan stratus
#

1 is enough

icy shadow
orchid storm
#

omg

#

peeps

#

just saw the video haha, I did it a little differently: get the two topaz + runal band + activate blue portal stage 1

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get the two shape glass

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get royal capacitor

#

insta kill boss

viscid fiber
#

Omg I did it

#

Fucking typical, an hour and change to spare but I did it.

#

I don’t care how bad some peeps might say the ability is, I did it.

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Let this be a lesson: if at first you don’t succeed grind away until you nearly lose your sanity and all semblance of a memory of what comfort was but eventually with enough persistence the mountain will budge.

rancid shadow
#

Nah it’s an ok ability really. The worst new ability is Artificer’s ice m2

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EW.

viscid fiber
#

I hope I hate this ability and the only joy that I ever get from this whole experience is the memory of finally achieving something that is very hard that I question several times whether or not I would ever be able to work up to accidentally blundering through to success.

rancid shadow
#

But her skin is my favorite out of the skins - it literally changes depending on what map she is on

#

Oh yeah I ground for hours to get Arti mastery on solo

#

That shit was so fucking hard

nova chasm
#

i got it first try (as in i actively try to get it) but i also almost exclusively play on monsoon so

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that alt m2 is great tho idk what you mean

knotty fractal
#

Hows the current trial for the merc challenge

#

i did the huntress one awhile ago

viscid fiber
#

@rancid shadow color-changing sounds amazing!

slim lintel
#

artis alt m2 is fine I think you meant her alt m1 which would be awful if it was working properly, but its not even working properly

viscid fiber
#

My Struggle and Victory with the Merc Challenge, a short novel, by Vaultboy1222
I have some reflections I’d like to share for those struggling with merc ethereal. Mercenary is my favorite survivor. I like merc so much I haven’t even played as Loader yet. Imagine my excitement at being able to customize my favorite character with a new “kit” after unlocking some new abilities! Anyway, the Ethereal challenge proved to be incredibly frustrating at times. Here’s what I did:

Keep grinding; I would fail and get more tense and play worse and worse and get more tense and frustrated. I decided that I was just going to except that as my reality and I was going to feel so often that I stopped being disappointed by it and much to my surprise that actually turned out to be kind of a brain hack that helped me get through some rough times. Keep trying and take breaks and keep trying.

Hurrying fucked me. I would try to go fast hoping for less monsters because I was so beaten down from vultures and wisps cheap-shotting me. No one fails because they didn’t zoom through and keep all their dash attacks on cooldown. Attack monsters that have ranged-attacks calmly and deliberately, use beetles and other melee-only monsters as batteries for your barrier. Panicked attacks to kill monsters will cause you to make erratic decisions and deplete important life-saving abilities that will save you from damage. remember if you’re out of range, that’s just more armor.

Celebrate this little things: did you make it further on a run than before but you got hit anyway? Acknowledge that you made progress. This might end up feeling like a long war for you.

Repeat as necessary.

cyan stratus
#

what the fuck

slim lintel
#

what the frick

fervent stag
#

a real merc lover would complete a daily monsoon run into celestial portal without taking dmg (/s)

cyan stratus
#

ok i got ethereal for this trial lol

tepid patrol
#

that was fast

cyan stratus
#

it's pretty easy if you just don't get hit

boreal ether
#

This trial was easy for the Ethereal challenge. People really need to git gud

cyan stratus
#

no it's a new one 1 hour ago

tepid patrol
#

planning on another video for this one cabbage?

cyan stratus
#

sure

tepid patrol
#

thanks!

cyan stratus
slim lintel
#

this ones dummy easy basically only beetles spawn s1

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and then double preon instakill s2

cyan stratus
#

yea

cyan stratus
tepid lagoon
#

wat

cyan stratus
#

rex fast

#

can be faster, someone go beat me

slim lintel
#

I got some weeb trash ethereal challenge uploading rn

cyan stratus
#

it better than mine ?

slim lintel
#

its faster

cyan stratus
#

ok but like

#

they dont care about speed

#

i'll speedrun it right now if you want

slim lintel
#

idc I just wanted to make a shitpost

cyan stratus
#

delete it

slim lintel
#

lmao

cyan stratus
#

no but like that's actually an abomination and you should feel bad

slim lintel
#

nah I feel pretty good

cyan stratus
#

i had to mute it to watch it

slim lintel
#

that is the point

cyan stratus
#

the route isn't even good

slim lintel
#

its not supposed to be

knotty fractal
#

why not grab any of the shield generators?

#

theres quite a few

inner shuttle
#

waste of time

knotty fractal
#

why? dont they provide health over 100% so you can afford a hit or two?

inner shuttle
#

nope

#

as far as i've experienced, shield qualifies AS health for Ethereal

knotty fractal
#

transendence fucks it up

inner shuttle
#

oh, really?

knotty fractal
#

because it counts as normal health...But shield generators do not

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Neither do broaches

inner shuttle
#

TIL

hardy furnace
#

What? Shield generators count as health..

knotty fractal
#

are you sure?

#

i was told they dont

hardy furnace
#

Brooches and Aegis are barrier

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Which is different from shields

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Barrier doesn’t count, shields do

knotty fractal
#

what a hassle

cyan stratus
#

this trial can't be easier just do it

knotty fractal
#

ye ill get it

#

The huntress oine wasnt too ba

solemn tendon
#

seems that this seed is even easier than the last one

#

just for that preon fuel cell tho, imagine going against a fire elite without being hit

tough belfry
#

what's the weeb music i don't recognise it

orchid imp
patent chasm
#

@cyan stratus can you really surf like that with about any not very flat surface with the m2 of merc?

fading sparrow
fading sparrow
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i'm done with this

fading steppe
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Hey @cyan stratus those have been some great ethereal runs, thanks

slim lintel
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@tough belfry I think its from some random tv scene in the background in steins;gate or something

tough belfry
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ok nice how did you find that

slim lintel
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I downloaded the steins;gate ost from some random ass website like 6+ years ago and remembered that weird ass song was in there somehow

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I might just make this a series for every trial, at least super easy ones that take 0 effort

cyan stratus
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@patent chasm yes

patent chasm
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that's intresting!

fervent stag
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btw cabbage did you know you can dmg vagrants and alloy worship by using R on other side of terrain to pull it to dmg?

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nvm cant pull vagrant

slim lintel
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this trials vagrant seems like it gets pushed a lot easier than last trials for some reason, I could consistently get a slam on this one and 0 on the other

fervent stag
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I mean on rex

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I just 2 shot alloy worship like this

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I think elder wisps work too

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Vagrant seems to not care tho

cyan stratus
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doesnt work on jellyfish

fervent stag
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yea doesnt seem to do anything to wisps either 😦 but if you play monsoon runs you can just oneshot alloy worship every time with R

velvet marlin
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OMG I FINALLY GOT ETHEREAL

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I DON'T SUCK as much

tough belfry
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sub 2 ethereal coming soon ;)

cyan stratus
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no it isn't

tough belfry
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:(

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why not

cyan stratus
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try it

tough belfry
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i have

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i am

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the issue is that it's really hard to try for because of how inconsistent vagrant slamming is

zenith plinth
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Sub 2 Eth or your family gets thrown into The Pit

tough belfry
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ez

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it came soon

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now what's coming soon is the video

cyan stratus
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big

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now get sub 1:30

zenith plinth
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Yeah I donno Chief. Looks like you’ve got some 16.10 on your face

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Might wanna shave that off

tough belfry
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uhhhhhh that's impossible

zenith plinth
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Do it

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Or your family gets THE PIT

tough belfry
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well i guess it's time to turn on cheats

zenith plinth
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Reasonable

cyan stratus
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guess i'm gonna have to beat your time

zenith plinth
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Oop

cyan stratus
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since nobody wants to beat my rex time ):

zenith plinth
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Minecraft Apple vs Mr. Anime

cyan stratus
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it's not.... nevermind

zenith plinth
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Yeah I know

slim lintel
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welcome to the apple gang pope

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cabbage will try to say thats a cherry but we know better

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tfw even merc is faster than arti now

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🤡 trials

cyan stratus
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yea i'm surprised by the merc time but then i remembered the 1:42 benchmark and now i'm not surprised anymore

slim lintel
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1:42 benchmark?

cyan stratus
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??

slim lintel
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???

cyan stratus
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?????

slim lintel
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tf is that

cyan stratus
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fake trial player get out

zenith plinth
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Fraud

slim lintel
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you mean the level up

cyan stratus
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yes??

slim lintel
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oh when tf did we start calling that a benchmark

cyan stratus
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when rex came out and not killing the boss before 1:42 means you're bad

zenith plinth
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Fraudulent gamer

slim lintel
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I noticed I overly shitposted on my weeb trial vid, I destroyed 4 crystals on stage2 lmao I didnt even notice

cyan stratus
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did you willingly rewatch it

zenith plinth
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Did you willingly watch it, Cabbage?

cyan stratus
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yes but muted

zenith plinth
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Good idea

slim lintel
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I've watched it a total of 47 times, I'm very proud of it

zenith plinth
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Ok yes but

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Why

slim lintel
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because its art

tough belfry
cyan stratus
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wtf is this weeb garbage

tough belfry
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weeb garbage

slim lintel
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👌

zenith plinth
wooden vortex
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good mashup

cyan stratus
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no it isn't

slim lintel
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why tf do you have the weird shit in the caves too

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tf is wrong with y'alls games

cyan stratus
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ok not everyone can afford nasa computer

slim lintel
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i dont have a nasa computer I'm playing the wii version

wooden vortex
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i'm using tilt controls!

cyan stratus
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oh no

slim lintel
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wait is that cirnos perfect math class mashed up with soulja boy

wooden vortex
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ya

cyan stratus
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even i recognized it and i'm not a weeb

zenith plinth
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God I hate anime

cyan stratus
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same tbh

zenith plinth
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God I hate anime so much

cyan stratus
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agree

zenith plinth
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God I hate anime so much, but I hate people with pixilated fruit profile pictures more

cyan stratus
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wtf

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where did that come from

zenith plinth
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You’ve been bamboozled

cyan stratus
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i dont know how to respond to that

wooden vortex
#

rowley lookin kinda fresh

zenith plinth
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Notice: his abs are a shirt

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But his arms are not

slim lintel
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now I'm gonna have to try and get a speedrun going so I can make a v2

gaunt elk
#

today's trial is good if you still need to get the engineer challenge to kill tele boss in 5 seconds

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2nd stage is rallypoint so you can get a preon, and 2 glasses + armor piercing along the way

slim lintel
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the engi challenge is so 09/17

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cirThink you know those things in the caves look almost like area portals, but idk if unity uses those or if its just a source thing.

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ok I found the cause, check the tickbox for soft particles and it will go away

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soft particles being on shouldnt be much of a performance hit at all either

cyan stratus
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what if i dont want to

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i like the cave vfx

slim lintel
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well then enjoy your crusty giant block of light blue

cyan stratus
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ok

slim lintel
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why are you an orange now

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or one of those lil orange tomatoes

tough belfry
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i didn't know apples could be orange

slim lintel
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oh yes the rare orange apple

cyan stratus
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it's a pumpkin

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where's your holiday spirit

rain solar
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that minecraft golden apple

dense merlin
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so it seems like this prismatic is the most possible ive seen

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at least for ethereal

icy urchin
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idk, the one 2 weeks ago had a brooch printer, it allowed even for mistakes to be made

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Cabbage, you are fucking insane

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you are playing this game on another lvl

cyan stratus
#

?

slim lintel
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ya cabbage u legend you rush the tele on rex like no other

little wadi
#

indeed

slim lintel
#

S T I M U L A T E P L A N T

cyan stratus
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lol what

fading sparrow
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nice new pfp

cyan stratus
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thanks

rain solar
cyan stratus
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np

slim lintel
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tfw the weebs get no credit

cyan stratus
#

rightfully so

orchid imp
mellow mesa
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Cabbage is the hero of prismatic trials

slim lintel
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wow ok what am I chopped liver

pearl eagle
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Apple man getting so much fame from PTs

mellow mesa
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Sorry, iforgotwho you are

slim lintel
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if commando gets something insane for a utility skill alt he may become a pt contender, his new m2 does 1600% every 3 seconds and you can double nade the boss spawn

mellow mesa
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Hopefully next character doesn't kill pt like plant did

slim lintel
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Loader's pretty screwed up too. Technically the best by far but very rng reliant

mellow mesa
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Rip meta

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Watch enforcer be next character

orchid imp
#

sniper

icy urchin
#

miner

mellow mesa
#

Hopoo

orchid imp
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^

slim lintel
#

hopoo is obviously the best character since he randomly fills the whole leaderboard up sometimes

mellow mesa
#

True

indigo snow
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3 videos are up for the current ethereal seed

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Worth keeping pinned until the seed changes

tough belfry
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my video really doesn't work as a route for people

indigo snow
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I'm watching it right now

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Why did you use the Cirno's Playground Soulja Boy theme as bgm

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lmao

next egret
indigo snow
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I did

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O, wrong video?

next egret
#

yeah thats the rex run i think

indigo snow
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I think I misread the title

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Good catch

pearl eagle
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The real question is why are you questioning only MyCaast choice of music for the background

indigo snow
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Because I like weeb music

pearl eagle
#

Understandable

indigo snow
mellow mesa
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I know the best bgm

tough belfry
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i did the music as that since i didn't want to do full weeb music and that fit the time of the video

mellow mesa
#

This fits the theme of Etherial even more imo

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Unending suffering of everyone trying to do it

pearl eagle
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War, war never changes

mellow mesa
#

Or this

indigo snow
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I'll do you one better

mellow mesa
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Mfw not using <> to hide embed

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I like to keep people questioning

indigo snow
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Mfw there's an x in the corner next to the embed

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So you don't have to use <>

mellow mesa
#

Idk, that's how discord explained it to me

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I guess it's not there on phone since I never saw it

indigo snow
#

True, not mobile

buoyant goblet
soft acorn
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whats pt for?

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im stupid. Nah mando will never top Rex, not sure he can even get close to Arti

slim lintel
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mando has a chance if he gets better mobility. With his new m2 doing 533% (repeating of course) per second thats better than rex's 450%, not to mention the high % nades

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actually nvm I forgot about rex's armor breaking bullshit

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next seed's ethereal shitpost I should use the ethereal skill for extra funk

soft acorn
#

range is the name of the game imo

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you cant blast the crystals with mando, and dont forget rex's M1 weakens which buffs dmg

slim lintel
#

nade trickshots for crystals

fervent stag
#

yeah rex seems pretty optimal for prismatic. very long range, armor reduction + really high dmg without items, okay mobility and can get highground and some shift tricks on crystals and jump pads for even faster movement trough map

slim lintel
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range is a great thing, but arti has infinitely more range than merc but merc can beat her by a lot

soft acorn
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merc is broken mobility, arti's main dmg has less rnage tham merc's ;')

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also rex has the added + that he can boop dune striders and grovetenders off the map if you get the seed

slim lintel
#

they completely screwed arti over with the skills 2.0 update

soft acorn
#

idk i think shes still pretty OP

slim lintel
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nah she sucks ass, with the regen nerf and the amount of wisps spawning in base game a cd based character cant keep up

soft acorn
#

you can one tap whisps if ur aim and timing is good. I wanna see the new M1 1 shot them tho

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  • new R is best survivability skill in the game by far
slim lintel
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I mean the m1 1taps them for a while but after a while it doesnt, especially if you're not lucky enough to get a crowbar

soft acorn
#

if u scale stages fast enough it will 1 tap them all the way to S5 without items

slim lintel
#

still thats 4 wisps out of 25097854397072830

soft acorn
#

5* + if u scale some crowbars you can clear them all out of the skies with M2

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she is deffo a high skill character on monsoon now but imo probably the second or third best after mando and rex

slim lintel
#

also with her new R, all the survivability in the world doesnt mean shit when you literally can't kill anything

fervent stag
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if only you could quarantee a headstompers drop, then after the change that is apparently coming (cast with e instead of holding spacebar) it will be quite strong with arti alt R

soft acorn
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it helps you get places faster on most maps, less time spent looking for stuff. and m1 and m2 already do enough dmg early on

fervent stag
#

get a primordial cube and headstompers from the skybox

soft acorn
#

whose ur fav @slim lintel

slim lintel
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Arti, I have over 250 hours on her

soft acorn
#

same bruh

slim lintel
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I hate that commando is in a better spot than her atm idk how that happened

tough belfry
#

is commando actually considered good now?

slim lintel
#

she's gotten progressively worse every update

fervent stag
#

I am confused tho, I always hear rex is low tier and now you said its top tier?

slim lintel
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rex is SSS+++ tier

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rex has near infinite range with great mobility and a built in giant armor debuff. You can just sit out of bounds every single map and snipe everything

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and a built in primordial cube

fervent stag
#

I wish dreaming next stage from bazaar didnt cost 3 lunars, if it was 1 I'd choose siren's call everytime

soft acorn
#

yeah Rex is deffo best character, but high skill ceiling and low skill floor

slim lintel
#

turn out a ~585% spammable aoe nuke with a built in primordial cube is pretty good

soft acorn
#

is that how the numbers work out with the armour debuff? Wish that was stackable...

slim lintel
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I've figured with very little testing the armor debuff gives you about 30% more damage

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idk how accurate it is

fervent stag
#

the shattering justice stacks with it right?

slim lintel
#

I'd think so

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so at the very start of the game all your kjaro bands and missiles and shit are doing 30% more damage than any other character

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rex is busted

soft acorn
#

close to 40% actually

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2-100/(100-30)

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nvm

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23% extra

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553 yh ur right

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  • extra dmg on M1 and all procs
slim lintel
#

well my test was hop on and shoot a titan before he got a debuff and after he had the debuff and the difference between the meteors damage was 30%

soft acorn
#

reported this to devs?

slim lintel
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idk how armor works so it may be more effective on things like titans that have more armor

soft acorn
#
Risk of Rain 2 Wiki

Armor is a mostly obscured stat from the player. It applies a damage reduction on damage taken if you have it, and a damage increase if you have a negative amount. This applies to all damage...

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also rex has armour, so thats nice

slim lintel
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titan has 20 armor, rex's ability reduces armor by 30. And someone in here told me armor works in the negatives to you advantage so that gives the titan -10 armor which in its self would be 9.09 extra % I believe

soft acorn
#

you need to be comparing dmg vs armoured target with dmg vs neg armour

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59 vs 45 base vs titan

slim lintel
#

same on beetle queen I just tried it again

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holy shit lmao, looked on the wiki to check her armor stat and found these degenerate ass comments

brave olive
#

step on me and fart on me mommy stinky farts

slim lintel
brave olive
soft acorn
#

mods halp pls

zenith plinth
#

omg 😭 the beetle queen BeetleQueen is so hot 😳 DrizzleGasm

tawdry copper
#

booben pls. im the horny one here

slim lintel
soft acorn
#

if youve never done a PT under 2 minutes you are not allowed to lewd

grave garden
#

Man

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I am so bad at doing mercenary challenge on prismatic trials lol

tough belfry
#

what are you bad at specifically

elfin plinth
#

not getting hit i'd guess

slim lintel
#

the W A S and D keys may be used to move your character. If you see an attack coming your way press the W A S or D key to move and dodge it

elfin plinth
#

can be countered with 2 words-lesser wisp

slim lintel
#

can be counter countered with 2 words - git gud

tough belfry
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can be counter counter countered with 2 words - no u

dark saddle
#

Took me more than a dozen tries but I did Ethereal. It's not too bad if you persevere

#

on this seed at least

#

Siren's call into Rallypoint Delta especially with Fuel Cell as TP reward is an excellent combination

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Also the 2 missile drones are extremely helpful in both drawing aggro and dealing with wisps

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and other undesirables

lost quartz
#

Just unlocked ethereal

#

so easy with this seed

cyan stratus
#

yea the past two seeds have been braindead easy, almost like it's been done on purpose 🤔

#

the seed before that required a bit more thinking though

slim lintel
#

I don't think theres any strings being pulled on the seeds, there's probably been plenty of good setups in the past we just never noticed or had it even cross our minds

cyan stratus
#

yea i mean i've only done the last 3 seeds and i've found a route for all of them

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i still think every seed is possible

cyan whale
#

6th hour of trying ethereal, worst is I can't even tell when I took damage to health, already several times did it look like I only took shield damage, but I can never tell when I actually took hp damage and should've restarted

#

do the clay pot tendrils or fire burn hp directly?

#

ignoring shields?

lost quartz
#

taking shield damage counts as going below 100% health in my experience

languid cargo
#

it doesn't

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shield damage doesn't count as hp damage

lost quartz
#

huh

languid cargo
#

only if you have transcendence does it count as damage towards merc's achievement

cyan whale
#

Well, I am almost certain I didn't take hp damage in at least 2-3 runs now, but again, there's literally no way for me to tell when it happens that I fail

lost quartz
#

well then I guess I had taken literally one damage past shield and immediately regenerated it back in one of my attempts

languid cargo
#

fall damage also goes directly to hp

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not shields, so that counts too

cyan whale
#

my fav moment is when I'm setting up a crystal to dash through it and crit, destroying it, damaging my hp

tough belfry
#

yeah that is pretty bad but there are setups to not do that

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just left click a couple of times then eviscerate

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using crystals for extra dashes isn't worth it if you're going for ethereal

#

this trial is short enough that you shouldn't need to worry much about resetting anyway

whole marten
#

is hte current prismatic trial easy for the mercenary challenge ,

cyan whale
#

I've been doing it for 6-7 hours but that's not an indicator of anything

#

fuck man I give up

next egret
#

the current pt is pretty good since theres a fuel cell + preon for the second stage

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check the pins if u want a video guide

slim lintel
#

yeah 2 weeb certified walkthroughs and one normie one

cyan stratus
#

tfw not being a weeb makes me a normie

tough belfry
#

guess which one has the most views

slim lintel
#

its mine which is hilarious since its purposefully shitty

cyan whale
#

hm, I recorded my run and watched it like 3 times now, I cut it extremely close shield to hp wise at least 3 times