I haven't even unlocked loader lol
#prismatic-trials
lavish mason
lavish mason
maybe another seed will be easier
zenith plinth
Just way way too hard here, my whole body just straight up aches
lavish mason
though it seems unlikely given all the brooches on this one
formal field
Fellas I have succeeded
lavish mason
gz
ivory sapphire
I wrote a guide to try and help people get it before the seed resets if you want to take a look. Maybe it'll help!
formal field
Trust me, this guide was useful
My round 2 routing was a disaster before seeing this guide
runic forge
most of the skills are worth it
ivory sapphire
Glad to hear it, though it wasn't my video. I wrote that as kind of a companion guide after it helped me a ton, too. It's very tough, just want to spread the success before it's gone.
runic forge
especially if you main commando, huntress, mul-t, or artificer
zenith plinth
Instead of going into the tunnel, go straight up that hill next to the fireworks.
@ivory sapphire Here?
ivory sapphire
That's what I like to do, yes
zenith plinth
Ah I see
ivory sapphire
Collect those, get an extra brooch, and also allows you to exit the tunnels to get the stealthkit later, which helps a bunch for big hits on the boss
zenith plinth
The stealth kit is way in the back of the screenshot, yes
ivory sapphire
yup
zenith plinth
I vaguely remember
gleaming grove
i skipped the stealth kit when i did it
actually i ended up with only 5 or 6 brooches, too
ivory sapphire
You could get it then but you'd need to farm a bit for the money and you have fewer brooches, so it's a bit more dangerous
gleaming grove
because even though i had more stuff to yeet into the printer, i bail once all the imps start showing up
ivory sapphire
The imps weren't a big deal because of all the fireworks shooting
ALso your beetle guard stomping a bit
zenith plinth
Then this way, or back where the video guy went?
ivory sapphire
kill a quick lizard, then you're fine to tackle imps with all the chaos going on
grab the stealth kit and then just head to the I guess you could climb up that way to go into the tunnels to the printer
kinda up to you
zenith plinth
I see I see
gleaming grove
i also
ivory sapphire
Just make sure to engage the boss with 7-9 brooches. The more the merrier. I'm sure fewer is possible like was just said, but safety is the concern here
zenith plinth
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa
gleaming grove
stopped taking the beetle
gleaming grove
the beetle managed to inconvenience me more than it helped lmao
gleaming grove
including killing 2 attempts by itself by attacking the crystal i was right next to
gleaming grove
anyway just thought id share this cause i think its pretty sick https://youtu.be/mBw-Vb6pDek
ivory sapphire
If by that you mean dogged determination with consistent attempts nonstop back to back, yes 😛
gleaming grove
zenith plinth
By the way, the two chests near the stage 1 teleporter is a Key and a Berzerker thing right?
ivory sapphire
Yeah
The Zerker thing will help with runspeed if you get a bunch of whirlwind kills or fireworks kills or something
The key is just to convert into a brooch
zenith plinth
Alrighty
cyan oasis
what a dumb unlock
zenith iris
god fucking dammit, i give up, i can't fucking do this challenge, fuck the mercenary
gleaming grove
if anyone actually watched it, can we talk about that boost to the fuel cell lol
zenith plinth
OOF
I always used to take health damage
But this is the first run where I straight up die
gleaming grove
health damage
gleaming grove
also as for the first stage i got killed by beetles using that strat like 6 times lmao
i probably couldve been bothered to move more but i was trying REAL hard to just be standing on the tele
lavish mason
8 brooches + super drone did it
gleaming grove
i still only had like 6 uwu
lavish mason
minions took care of the boss entirely
cyan oasis
it's those damn imps for me, and some random shot from wisps
remote quartz
Ty my friends
slim lintel
https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/563138000771612679/624345438912380958 <- cabbages sub 2 min run might learn somethin
ivory sapphire
the super drone is that good? That's aweosme, I never tried it out
lavish mason
keep in mind guys there's a lockbox on the second stage with a free white
you don't even need a key to open it
tired veldt
So the current seed is the same as when the update launched?
lavish mason
it's not always in the same place though, somnetimes it's right before the second crystal, sometimes it's next to the container where prion is
I think seed updated pretty soon after the update
to the current one
ivory sapphire
Did you get it?
ivory sapphire
that's awesome, good to hear. Maybe taht should be the go-to strat for now
lavish mason
haha I didn't even have to touch the boss with the super drone attacking it
zenith plinth
Yes, Preon onto the boss, then get the heck away before you get caught in the mess of the 
low health attack
ivory sapphire
that spretty awesome haha
misty pelican
Heck yeah boys just did it!
misty pelican
Thanks, god that dunestrider fight is scary as hell
lavish mason
Onto the next ridiculous challenge ...
zenith plinth
I fucking did it
misty pelican
Although I did grab the ability beforehand to test it out, will admit, did that for the challenge not the ability
ivory sapphire
oh badass
zenith plinth
YES
ivory sapphire
that's four in like twenty minutes X)
zenith plinth
praise topaz printer and double prion
misty pelican
Think it's the fact we have a definitive guide now
zenith plinth
that was definitely hugely helpful
ivory sapphire
not much time to use it, but oh well heh
misty pelican
Yeah, 7 hours is hard as hell if you hadn't already been trying
zenith plinth
Now to get it for my brother's profile
There is no way he has the patience to do what I just did
misty pelican
Does he want the ability or the achievement
misty pelican
Good luck man, the ability is kind of sucky though
misty pelican
That your middle name?
zenith plinth
🙃
misty pelican
Anyways have fun in the new circle of hell
hollow smelt
ugh i'm never gonna get this
cyan oasis
i really hope this kind of "challenge" never happens again
errant jasper
just got it
imo its important to get the battery and focus crystal
stage 1 was too hard with just 1 brooch so i dont think its worth trading the first brooch for focus crystal
but battery + 1x focus + preon makes the boss fight much easier
ivory sapphire
With both brooches and ample, healthy use of the Ultimate and Dashes you should be able to maintain a good barrier during the boss at all times by taking a break from DPS and killing adds
staying afloat with double jump and always attacking anything should keep you healthy
errant jasper
the boss died in like 5 seconds for me
vocal thunder
Managed to kill teapot without any damage and without preon.. but turns out on 1st stage i was slightly hit by a wisp while walking tonnel.
This is too rng
ivory sapphire
I mean, if it works it works, that's awesome. I had the most success treating it like a marathon and not a sprint, is all. Consistency over big showy chances.
errant jasper
but its essentially the same level of consistency
just because you have increased damage and 2 shots doesnt mean you should play stupid
a single preon shot basically gives you max shields from blowing up everything around you
what is even the argument against it other than to say
cyan stratus
@gleaming grove i watched your video and your routing is very strange
errant jasper
its a waste of time to go and pick that up
cyan stratus
why are you doing s1 like that?
errant jasper
once you grab the brooch chest after printing a bunch
you can just go and pick up the crystal/battery and then head to the boss
i still had 8 brooches
ivory sapphire
YOu mean focus crystal on stage 2 or stage 1?
errant jasper
stage 2
ivory sapphire
i thought you emant 1 for the beetle queen
broken prairie
brooch on S1 is too godamn important
errant jasper
focus and battery basically means the boss just vaporizes
it definitely buffs the preon damage
ivory sapphire
2 is more flexible for sure
errant jasper
S1 not having 2x brooch is insane
broken prairie
It's possible, but boy is it nervewracking
errant jasper
i was trying to clear it with 1x brooch for a while and it wasn't worth the effort
but likewise S2 not taking battery and focus seems stupid
the longer you fight the boss the more risks there are
and without the focus the margin of error for preon without it going into heal mode is much smaller
the video posted earlier was some madman stuff, massive damage but so little defense youre just at the mercy of RNG
frail locust
why so complex?? just grab the 2 brooch in the stage 1 and loot a few chest at stage 2, then 3D-print them. Also, do get the prion and the fusion cell. Helps alot
gleaming grove
@cyan stratus couldnt find any better way to do it?
frail locust
The TC-280 is to expensive, its a waste of your time. you only need 5 brooch and the fusion cell and prion. You only need to damage the boss for like 1000 - 2000 damage before and then just insta kill it whit 2 prions
you can beat the boss at around 7 min
cyan stratus
@gleaming grove did you see my 1:45
harsh lark
It takes a bit to earn sure, but it's also WAY safer.
gleaming grove
only after the fact
frail locust
@harsh lark Yes it is safer, but if you get 5 brooch you can just kill 3 lesser wips and you have FULL barrier. and Your 2 prion shots deal like 3/4 of the boss hp
harsh lark
it doesn't really invalidate being a different strategy: BOTH strats work.
ivory sapphire
Where's the fuel cell?
frail locust
top of the sirkular piller whit a chest at the top. close to the 2. crystal
grab the fuel cell first so you instant get a second chare and dont need to wait like 100 seconds
@harsh lark True, both work. its just a tip if you want to compleate it faster. I finished in 7 min and 26 sec
harsh lark
I just want to complete it. I almost did it with the TC280, I just screwed up and forgot to "BFG"
misty pelican
Both strats do work
frail locust
sorry to hear that man, but if you are faster and activate the boss at like 5 - 6 min mark, you dont get to the medium diffeculty level and the Boss will have less HP
misty pelican
pretty sure if you charge up the Preon before the boss spawns in proper and you have 2 of them you can insta kill him
harsh lark
I'm unfortunately not that fast.
I'm content taking 12 minutes if it means a safer run. TC280 still shreds it at medium difficulty.
misty pelican
5-6 minutes isn't the best idea for a little less health either way. You have much less time to get the brooches and you could end up dying super fast without them
frail locust
@misty pelican no, you cant instakill it with 2 shots. If you fire your prion first it will have like 1000-1500 hp left and will just lay down and suck for hp. Deal 1000- 2000 damage first and then shoot prion
misty pelican
What if you hit #1 before it finishes spawning and then use number 2 before it can regen
frail locust
but you still need to deal 1000 - 2000 damage yourself ether way. Better if it is before to not risk the big suck
misty pelican
Fair enough point, I beat the boss with one preon anyways
I opted out for stickies and brooches over the extra charge
frail locust
at the 5-6 min mark I had : 1 beatleguard, 2 turrets, 7 brooches, 1 bleed sword and 2 stickey bombs. pluss 2 charges on my prion
cunning yarrow
is there only one focus crystal in the current run or are there more in the second stage? also where was the fuel cell again?
just post the layout, I couldn't find it
karmic bluff
theres one in the middle of the containers
misty pelican
Seems to only be one on stage two, fuel cell is near the gate on the giant spire
cunning yarrow
aight cool thanks
will try to do engi and arti challenges, hope it works
I've already done mercenary and huntress challenges and just realized you could also do engi and arti
frail locust
Follow this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7WifM3UPuw : I take no credit of this video. It is not my video.
cunning yarrow
ok thanks
frail locust
Just pick up the fuel cell too to increase the chances
cunning yarrow
around 5
karmic bluff
yikes . i got an hour to get the perfect merc and perf huntress runs in when i get home then
frail locust
@karmic bluff Best of luck
karmic bluff
thanks ill need it
cunning yarrow
engi challenge = done. now to the arti
this is gonna be a bit different because preon takes longer than a second to charge and you can't one shot the dunestrider with it
misty pelican
Wait what challenges have you done
cunning yarrow
I can either use a newt altar on the first stage, and hope for a shaped glass, or spawn the dunestrider, and try to hit it with 2 preons back to back. I'll have to fire one from afar, then move with it and fire the second
mercenary r, huntress r, and the engi kill boss in 5 seconds one
in this prismatic
blessed seed
cunning yarrow
I'd be a masochist if I didn't do them in this current run
misty pelican
fair enough
cunning yarrow
this seed is a cheese for those challenges
misty pelican
You're not wrong
cunning yarrow
oh okay... going into bazaar generates a different layout for the second stage
rustic vector
okay, what am I missing? the first map looks so barren
cunning yarrow
even 2 preons isn't enough
if you're looking for the mercenary/huntress 100% health challenge, first stage has 2 brooches
what do you mean by barren anyway
rustic vector
2 brooches, berserker, that's it
Should I accept that's enough and I'm just terrible at ror?
obtuse nexus
I had to admit that so
Less that we're terrible more that that's one of the hardest things to do in RoR that isn't incredibly specific
tough belfry
we can still go harder
vocal thunder
I finnaly made it 😅
cunning yarrow
yeah no couldn't do the arti challenge on prismatic. at least I don't wanna spend any more coins on trying to get it
I guess glass stacking it is
verbal hamlet
nj Goo
vocal thunder
@cunning yarrow I achived it with 20 
and simply killed non boss enemy, while all 3 bosses were around.
Also do know those ways work:
- Get glass, get preon, get crowbars, fire preon while beeing INSIDE boss. In this ways so preon tendrils doesnt touch boss 1st and projectile instantly explodes inside boss
- Lure enemy on distant roosts or titanic plains to jump from clif into abis. Do not damage it at all, just lure.
hard hedge
So if I don't do the merc challenge with this particular trial which is generous with its amber brooches am I just kinda screwed until another easier prismatic trial shows up?
vocal thunder
@verbal hamlet thx
verbal hamlet
Pretty much destiny potato
I feel like this prismatic trial
Was literally made just for this achievement
vocal thunder
@hard hedge the one before it was way way easyer to achive it. This one kinda hard. i had to practice for 4 hrs straigh, also i made my own maps with shortcuts and waypoints.
verbal hamlet
Without them brooches it’s basically impossible
hard hedge
yeah when i first read the challenge i thought it was a typo or something
verbal hamlet
Though maybe hoppo will release another prismatic trial for this idk
The new merc ult lookin hella spicy tho
hard hedge
i feel like having a challenge that's super reliant on a prismatic trial's seed to even be realistically possible is a terrible idea
rustic vector
feel like to all people playing merc it's gonna make prismatics a chore
cunning yarrow
@vocal thunder I just achieved it after I said I wouldn't try lmao
sonic elm
If it'd just been 75% health instead of a no-hit run barring Barrier I don't think it'd be a problem
rustic vector
it just sounds kind of ridiculous, infinitely more so than even loader's achievement
sonic elm
It's doubly odd to me because I remember the devs in an earlier stream or somewhere mentioning that it's unreasonable to expect players to dodge everything in a 3D-swarm environment, which is why the playable characters all have regenerating health in the first place
cunning yarrow
for those who wonder how to do arti challenge in current prismatic:
1-) get goat hoof and focus crystal from first stage (optional), use the newt altar (it's behind the pillar on that room whose door is sometimes closed) and kill boss, finish stage. DON'T pick up the queen's gland, and use the portal.
2-)exit the bazaar because we don't need anything from there. enter 2nd stage. Get the preon, the timed chest is on the hill opposite of where you spawn.
3-)Activate the portal, and go to the top of nearest containers. the one where there's a ramp there and only one of the doors is open.
4-)Stay ABOVE the doorway, and let boss imps gather below. Once you're sure they're all here, activate preon, jump down as it charges, and blast those imps to hell. if one of them doesn't instantly die, you're likely to fail the challenge
ION SURGE HEAVILY RECOMMENDED FOR THIS
at least the way I did
vocal thunder
@cunning yarrow this prizmatic ends soon. But algorythm is usefull nonetheless.
cunning yarrow
3 hours 38 mins left
rustic vector
why not to take gland?
vocal thunder
@rustic vector its gonna attack bosses and you need to kill them with single barrage of damage from 100% to 0%hp
cunning yarrow
in one second
rustic vector
oh you're right
cunning yarrow
blessed seed, cheesed 4 challenges
primal anvil
New prismatic is great for Merc's no-damage run
cunning yarrow
yeah, I did that, huntress 100% health challenge, engi kill boss in 5 seconds one, and arti kill boss in one second
fervent stag
Do you just double preion or what? How do you do the 1 sec kill?
Nvm I didnt scroll
shrewd fjord
just found out there's a brooch 3d printer to the right of the spawn in the second half
and lost my 100% to a wisp hitting me for 1 damage
zenith plinth
idk why everyone is doing the arti challenge in prismatic, i managed to do both of them in the same way (multi kill and orbital), by getting a cube in a normal run, letting a bunch of small enemies group up, cubing them into the same spot and using a charged m2
shrewd fjord
finally got it
8 topaz brooches at the 3d printer, and fuel cell with preon
thx for the map btw, was a big help
ivory sapphire
Only 3 hours left on this challenge. Here's my guide in case it helps someone. I added a couple edits for the fuel cell and the super drone, which after trying myself (on huntress) is very, very safe, but requires farm time.
cunning yarrow
@zenith plinth we were talking about kill boss in one second burst challenge
zenith plinth
ah, all that takes is a preon and a crowbar for stage 1 if ya can get em. pris might have that then
digital barn
I randomly took damage when I merc dashed on the drone
Might want to avoid that if you do an ethereal on the seed
karmic bluff
what does the merc challenge unlock anyway?
ivory sapphire
Replaces the R with a high damage ranged attack that pierces enemies
karmic bluff
is it worth it?
ivory sapphire
I haven't fooled with it much. Depends on how much you like iframes and a short range port I guess.
slim lintel
no
ivory sapphire
I personally feel like the default skill is better, but I'll play around with it.
karmic bluff
how about the ranger one?
latent stag
ranged skill travels decently far, doesn't lock you into an animation and deals close to the same amt of damage as default with no items. Imo just a prismatic trial skill which is ironic since we had to grind out PT for this garbage
fervent stag
@cunning yarrow thx for that, got the challenge done 🙂
vocal thunder
Used new skillset for merc to unlock skin. And i gotta say - R is different, it doesnt give mobility anymore and merc grealy looses its speed because of it.
But having very high dmg ranged may be way way more profitable in a fight. I managed to not even be hit while stage 7 and constantly wrecking havoc on boss (malachite bisons). Its important where you aim, because it is not locking on any enemy, like regular R and should be landed precisely. Hard to knock down smal wisps, so better to have Shift ready.
And what about Rmb skill - its also takes away some recious moveability, but its worth it due to its high dmg. Some enemy pops from 1 hit. And also it gives you some airtime to dodge attacks. Great wisps easyly fulled into shots above because of it and golems miss alot too.
viscid lake
get full cell to kill final boss fro mercanary
stray peak
Merc's new M2 is great. It does more damage than the original, and you don't have to worry about hitting both swings. It also helps to build verticality when fighting anything with backup mags, so it's better for staying airborne than the original. With two Crowbars it does 900% damage to anything, so it's really good one-shot option for the weaker enemies like Lemurians and Wisps. It also feels nice to run up to an elite Lemurian and take them up about a hundred feet and watch them drop.
sleek stirrup
Does completing the trial as huntress count to her challenge?
pearl eagle
Yes it should
Devs said something about it being a bit inconsistant in their dev. thoughts, but it should work
thick scaffold
naive topaz
dude i keep getting to rallypoints printer for topaz and an imp just swipes me from 20 yards away and i reset
ivory sapphire
That sounds like lag my friend :/
rich locust
Are prismatics randomly generated or crafted intentionally?
soft acorn
ok first, git gud
second, waste as little time as possible getting only the necesasry items. Skip the hoof on S1, go straight for the crystal/brooch, sticky, drone 1 (down the slope after the bridge), berzerk, brooch #2 and than beetle. It will take you roughly 2 minutes and something on S1 if you do it correctly. On S2 grab the fuel cell, Preon, focus crystal, destroy 3rd pink crystal, Fire band and start the boss. Try clearing out only wisps, but if you do it correctly non will have spawned until you hit the tele. Take a few steps back and hit the dunestrieder with the first preon but make sure you catch at least a few minions to activate berzerker, R him with the boosted attack speed (that will do a ton of dmg) than second preon and its over
soft acorn
wait huntress or merc?
naive topaz
soft acorn
y do it on prismatic trials tho, you can do it in a regular run
naive topaz
cause alot of brooches in prismatic that are not garunteed in a regular run
unkempt harbor
New seed!
soft acorn
you can do it on any loop, a god run on drizzle is easy mode for that challenge
sterile notch
soft acorn
dunestrider and overloading vagrant. yeah
slim lintel
vagrants can be heavily cheesed by merc, you can push them in to the floor/wall and instakill them
s1 dune if theres no good equipment may be an issue though
autumn ibex
No topaz, but two tougher times I think
There is also a guillotine and ukelele
ukulele*
soft acorn
where dat guillotine at?
autumn ibex
It's on one of the sides of the pit on the slope outwards. I can't remember if it's on the left or right
The pit near spawn
slim lintel
dunestrider is really easy to beat without taking damage with the new merc R
autumn ibex
native glacier
Yeah, but unless you happen to cheese the vagrant or get lucky with teddies, i dont think this seed is possible for merc challenge
gleaming hawk
Where is the other teddy? I know where the first on in the 3-buy shop thingy is, but where is the other?
native glacier
Probably in a chest, i'll take a look when im Home :)
gleaming hawk
Kk, yeah I keep trying to do the merc challenge and I can sort of do it, I just keep getting sniped by wisps, so knowing where it is might help
cyan stratus
look at all these clowns cheating the achievement
i got 1:43 anyone find a faster route?
cyan stratus
hack
naive topaz
losers
slim lintel
Nah they're just that good man, cabbage just cant except his rex is getting beat
slim lintel
cyan stratus
bad
naive topaz
any tips on how to not get tapped by a wisp for merc challange
slim lintel
wait for a trial with brooches again or git really gud
cyan stratus
play rex
shy pecan
if you get a brooch wisps are great for stacking barrier
they're squishy enough that you can kill a bunch if you just save a dash
slim lintel
So mults sawblade has a 1 proc coeff, I think it's actually pretty stupid good esp if you have a band or somethin
cyan stratus
rex will always be best
slim lintel
yeah mult takes a while to break crystals unless they're all easily snipable
I think the saw may actually be more boss dps though as long as its a beetle or titan
lilac oasis
Anyone have any tips for defeating Mercenary's Ethreal mission on Prismatic Trial?
slim lintel
honestly wait 3 days and see how the next seed is
wtf thats racist
mult has another primary that has a 4 stack like arti but once the cd goes off all 4 of them recharge
slim lintel
ok mults other primary is low key good at crystal busting-ish but not really-ish idk
slim lintel
delet rex
fathom onyx
bruh i just did the merc challenge yesterday and didnt know i had to do the same with huntress and now the prismatic trail is different. Is there at least a brooch anywhere?
native glacier
Just do it multiplayer and hide somewhere
On the consent that everyone else is okay
fathom onyx
you cant do prismatic trials in multiplayer
heavy laurel
huntress doesn't need to be on prismatic trial
fathom onyx
oh u right, people were just doing it on the prismatic trial since it was the next stage
still ice
Yeah, the prismatic trial from before had all the brooches, so it was ideal for Huntress's challenge as well, though it's not necessary.
carmine path
so is merc's ethereal very doable on the current seed? it doesn't feel like it
still ice
Any seed that doesn't have topaz brooch is gonna be really tough. I haven't checked this seed, but I hear you're better off waiting for a better ethereal seed.
carmine path
aight, thanks
still ice
Luckily I also hear the ability it unlocks is lackluster, so don't feel too bad about waiting. I have it, but I haven't used it yet, so take my words with a grain of salt
soft acorn
its pretty good ability for doing mountain shrines if u keep the default M2. Rex op indeed tho.
carmine path
honestly, it lowkey feels like the majority of the new skills are worse, except for the new Artificer R. I haven't seen any yet that are actually on par with the originals really
still ice
Huntress's new R is good, I'm enjoying it, and MUL-T's grenade launcher seems like a usable replacement for rebar puncher. I also like Artificer's new right secondary. Engineer's spider mines are definitely better than the default, as well.
primal anvil
Skills I enjoy:
Huntress' R
Commando's M2 and R
Merc's R
Arti's M2 and R
Other character's abilities I haven't tried out yet.
Don't think these abilities are straight up better or worse, will definitely switch them around from time to time
slim lintel
idk why anyone likes artis new R, arti cant kill shit without flamethrower nanobomb sucks ass after the 6th floor
fresh anvil
eVerYthIng Is sO !@#$ BaD
bye
still ice
I find that a little funny, I always thought the exact opposite, that flamethrower's short range and long fire time made it a little situational and that nanobomb was their only reliable tool.
primal anvil
Nanobomb weak? Flamethrower weak? New R too?
Do people even collect items in this game, jeez...
slim lintel
i didnt say flamethrower is weak lmao
if you think nano bomb is good you havent played arti at all
primal anvil
Ok. Guess we have different experience with it somehow
south raven
wooden vortex
nope
slim lintel
can yes
should? no
slim lintel
I was able to do s1 pretty easy no hit
slim lintel
alt r which you get from the challenge
slim lintel
There's never been a trial with an imp overloard
unless you wait I really long time I think, but no there isnt a preon
harsh lark
ok thanks
slim lintel
It's pretty simple to pop in to drizzle or rainstorm and rush stage 3 (use a newt stage 2 if you really want to make sure you get snow map) grab the speedrun preon and you could easily get an imp that stage or the next
cyan stratus
oh nice someone beat my scuffed time now i have a reason to play this trial again
i dont feel like it though maybe tomorrow
kind path
mfw i had to stay at work for longer and missed previous trial
i assume current one is not optimal for challenge unlock?
primal anvil
Nope. Not optimal at all
tough belfry
ok i will try this trial if the dunestrider isn't elite
fervent stag
previous seed was over 60h duration
empty rain
tulip mauve
possible to do it no damage?
tough belfry
yeah
brisk shard
i not play continew if dev not fix brutal challenge
tough belfry
hmmmmm
polar ibex
is it just me or is the not get hit in the prismatic trial challenge absolutely impossible
sharp nymph
not just you. I dont know how to do this on mersenary
polar ibex
if at least the challenge wasnt on a tank character lol
sharp nymph
on hunter maybe, but not on mersenary
unique tapir
it is now, trial with good seed has expired
polar ibex
might as well pay for someone to unlock it for me
soft acorn
deal
tough belfry
it is not impossible >:(
slender zephyr
Well it's super heckin hard if you're not willing to spend hours doing the same trial over and over
tough belfry
yes that is true
vague jewel
I hope next weeks trial will work for merc's challenge
pine niche
i tried for a good hour mapped out where the useful items were but kept getting hit at the boss
vague jewel
Clay leech is too strong
brisk shard
• Also noting that a few of the Challenges seem very difficult at first glance - watching to make sure people can unlock them over time. It's fine people can't get them all in the first week 🙂 <<<dev tell
vague jewel
ah, it's not overly impossible, it's just that the difficulty changes each week. I enjoy it, it's more unique than the other challenges.
tough belfry
@pine niche by the succ?
green shard
just curious
how fast is the no.1?
tough belfry
if you scroll up you'd see https://gyazo.com/de7b974c5b46493beab25edae14150e3
slim lintel
what kinda s1 time you guys getting on rex?
I think loader might actually be as broken if not more broken than rex
slim lintel
nvm shes ass
cant kill bosses worth a shit
if that char could hit enemies with anything other than beeg punch maybe but their whole playstyle is fly around out of the teleporter like a dumbass and punch every 7 seconds
tough belfry
slim lintel
what a fun speedrun, sit at tele for over half of it
tough belfry
tbh
tough belfry
yeah the new update made it way easier to get fast times
slim lintel
routing this char is pretty fun in trials but their inability to kill bosses in a timely manner ruins any potential
pearl eagle
I guess, after like 6 attempts after launch I think my PB is like 16 mins or something
slim lintel
idk why they made her so clunk, her momentum carries in the worst way possible, she cant sprint while using her M1 even though sawblade mult and merc can, her grapple constantly disconnects its self or sends you pointlessly flying around enemies
tough belfry
the grapple disconnects if you go too close to it i think
slim lintel
also the way you slow down during your punch going through enemies makes it so easy to get cheesed by beetle guards, elder lemurians and imp overlords
pearl eagle
Honestly, I do wish you could sprint while you attack, but she doesn't feel that clunky
The way you can grapple, then use your shift and then start sprinting afterwards mid-air to get insane momentum is really fun
slim lintel
like how the hell are you supposed to fight 7 greater wisps as your boss in s3 on drizzle without constantly leaving the tele
this update is fucked
pearl eagle
Do you really dislike loader that much? Most of her damage comes from her shift, so just spamming that while surviving is probably the best way to play her anyways
She's probably my favorite character for base game rn, because of the insane movement shes got
slim lintel
I absolutely hate her, I like to feel in control especially with high mobility characters and she feels like you have very little control over many things
pearl eagle
The grapple can be quirky at times I guess, but using the shift with your grapple is crucial to actually go where you want to end up
But I can see where you come from though, I love high mobility chars in most games, but Hammond in Overwatch frustrates me to no end and makes me want to bash my head in with a stick
slim lintel
see I loved hammond
pearl eagle
disgusting
slim lintel
except when everyone would just switch to mcree brig ana sym mei and you can never move
but overwatch is a piece of garbage in general and not worth any time
pearl eagle
I mean yeah, was just trying to make a point, got over that game after like season 6 or whatever
slim lintel
Like I was just playing around with loader and I did an uncharged punch at a beetle queen and then started using m1 and the way the m1's carry momentum so oddly it carried me all the way through the boss and then out of range and I had to run back, theres just no control with this char
pearl eagle
Oh yeah, the m1 picking you up and carrying you off sometimes is really weird
slim lintel
I think if bosses were more...solid I'd enjoy her more
slim lintel
like stone titans sometimes you'll fly through them and across the whole map other times you stop dead in your tracks it needs to be consistent at least one way or the other
tough belfry
i just aim to go through them and use the grappling hook to go back
then if i don't go through whatever that was my goal anyway
but that only applies to early stages on drizzle where you actually want to be near enemies
in general loader just doesn't seem like a great character for base game as a melee character without invuln and pretty bad movement
slim lintel
yeah I was trying to unlock her skin but kept getting screwed over by horde of many bosses like beetleguards you just get stuck on them with your punch anim and they pound the shit outta you
that little delay when you hit an enemy is also enough for an elder lemurian to cast its firebreath flamethrower thing at you and melt you
crude fable
any guide for this current prismatic trail?
shy pecan
- play rex
- profit
wooden vortex
i uploaded my current PB of the trial
pls no flame i know i played awful lmao
stuck on terrain 2 separate times
cyan stratus
ur 1st crystal jump is bad, not getting lv4 by destroying 4 crystals, s2 route is weird
vagrant is fast though idk if there's any benefit to going up there
wooden vortex
ngl i didnt know u got level 4 off last crystal
and yeah im going way too high on the first crystal jump
atomic bison
is there a preon on the current prismatic?
cyan stratus
idk
slim lintel
no
what crystals are you killing s2 cabbage
swamp level always has the shittiest crystal layouts
also whats your s1 pause? I'm getting low 48's could get 47's with some polish
cyan stratus
yeah
slim lintel
very sloppy this one can go down to 1:36 ez
pretty sure I spent about a full 2 seconds on the vagrant having my finger lock up with no m2's coming out
fading sparrow
that's a lot of mercs
heavy lance
is it possible to unlock the mercenary skill in today's prismatic trial?
are there armors or something that makes it easier?
pearl eagle
From what I've heard, there's not a whole lot to make it easier no
fervent stag
is there a difference on rex if you have a certain rhythm with spamming m2 if you have no extra mags instead of just spamming it normally? I know you can get good animation cancel with 1-2 mags but what about without anything?
or I could ask how do you achieve maximum dps on bosses as rex without mags and with mags? m2 after you see spikes from m1?
pearl eagle
I think if you want maximum damage you have to fire it as early as possible when it comes off cooldown, but I don't play a whole lot of Rex myself so I can't say for certain
blazing coral
hosting monsoon na vc 1
slim lintel
The faster you can spam m2 the more dps you're going to do
thorny wraith
can you finished this new trail with 100% health against clay ?
blazing coral
lf2m vc 1 monsoon na
pearl eagle
It's probably doable, but doubt it's going to be easy
slim lintel
Doable? Yes. Worth it? No. Be patient and wait for a better trial
frail sedge
just did the prismatic trial for the first time
how long are they normally, stagewise?
dark cobalt
2 stages
steady peak
why are prismatic trials leaderboards not sorted per character 
cyan stratus
because then it would be easy to see that rex is the best
steady peak
but that doesnt matter anymore because everyone competes against their own class?
cyan stratus
no but then you could see how you rank up vs other people playing the same character
fathom mango
Theres 2 teddybears before you can reach clay which is about it
knotty zenith
how often do trials switch over?
wooden vortex
3 days
cyan stratus
about once every 6 dozen hours
knotty zenith
thanks, was trying to do the merc challenge but doesn't seem like the best trial for it
wicked nacelle
so if i WAS dumb enough to attempt ethereal challenge this week
what would the route be?
cyan stratus
go to the teleporter, beat the boss, and do the same for the next stage
wicked nacelle
"git gud" it is, then
maiden dawn
Unfortunately that's kinda all you can do for Ethereal
its kind of the worst achievement in the game
wicked nacelle
i can see that
i don't really understand achievments like that one in a game with so much hitscan
tough belfry
the route i tried was s1 taking ukelele, crowbar, tritip dagger, go to boss. use eviscerate and dash to avoid taking damage until boss is ~600 health, move away so dunestrider goes tall, take it down to ~500 then run away so you don't get hit when he starts doing the succ. once it's finished the succ just kill it. s2 destroy crystals and go straight to teleporter, then slam the vagrant on the tree thing right next to where it spawns
wicked nacelle
i understand that the strategy is to stack brooches for the overheal, but oof
sounds viable
tough belfry
i did s1 and s2 no hit seperately so it's 100% possible
would still take a long time to grind because of how inconsistent the vagrant slamming is
wicked nacelle
wisps are the bane of my existance
tough belfry
yes those too
taking the same route every time helps so enemy spawns are more consistent
wicked nacelle
there's a guillotine in s1 which i think would help with s2 boss
but achievements like this next to "pick up 12 crowbars" is kind of ludicrous
i hate how luck based this is, you basically need to get a seed like the last one with several brooches or else gl doing it
ugh, yeah, this is not feasably doable by a human
slim lintel
nice
cyan stratus
nice
soft acorn
@wicked nacelle check for glass at the newt altar and hit the two dream alternatives. They both provide you with different seeds for s2 (I haven't actually tested if those seeds contain brooches, but dunestriders are easy enough to cheese with iframes)
soft acorn
Also if you can slam the vagrant its one shot kill, but you need to get used to the mechanic. @tough belfry you got a replay? I wanna see your routing (still think there's a fair chance for a brooch on one of the alt routes)
soft acorn
what you get at the shop on the prismatic trial
there is a brooch if you choose the same stage from the bazar
boss on that stage is overloading dunestrider
total of one brooch, a magazine printer and ocular. looks doable
the bazar spawned wetlands also has a brooch
Boss is overloading titan, moreover there is preon very close to it and at least 3 Armour Piercing rounds scattered around. With good routing and avoiding brass bois this looks like the best chance at getting the achievement on this seed
id suggest getting the guillotine from S1, than rush the dunestrider, get the brooch, 3 AP rounds, Preon and fight the titan
tough belfry
i would have thought a titan (especially overloading) just isn't worth taking over the vagrant for no hit
and no sane person would ever choose dunestrider for no hit
soft acorn
the titan is very predictable and can easily be dodged the whole time without compromising DPS or forcing you into a specific skill use pattern. The vagrant has a lot of AoE
and no brooch
slim lintel
tfw great run about to hit s2 tele but kitten jumps up on mouse right as you flick to puff jump so you punch your cat and ruin your run
tough belfry
:|
the vagrant can't attack you if you stand on top of it except for the ball thing
and you just eviscerate that
titan has the thing constantly shooting at you and gives less protection from other enemies than vagrant
brooch doesn't matter too much when the fight lasts a few seconds
soft acorn
it matters for the margin of error, most chaps attempting this will be too slow/might get shot by wisps during the downtime
naive topaz
are there any prismatic guides for merc achivement for this seed?
tough belfry
i wouldn't recommend doing it on this seed
but if you scroll up there's a video of a possible route
naive topaz
omfg the video was right there, im an idiot. thankyou xD
pure nimbus
yeah probably best to wait for the new update that might change the challenge or for a new seed with turtle printer like last time
feral coyote
I'm really hoping for overloading wyrm in a prismatic
pure nimbus
dont think that's ever gonna happen, they only spawn somewhere in hahaha and prismatic trials only have 2 stages
elfin plinth
you can sit until haha though?
slim lintel
@cyan stratus 35 is possible, I would have had it but had to blast away from a jellyfish right before I teled and it died slamming in to a wall adding a whole second to the tele time
hollow topaz
any brooch printers today
pure nimbus
nope
hollow topaz
fuck
pure nimbus
7 hrs until new prismatic
hollow topaz
i just want to do the merc's alt R challenge
pure nimbus
trust it's not worth it
hollow topaz
wait, can lunar orbs spawn in pris trials
pure nimbus
dont think so
hollow topaz
was hoping for transcendence if it ever shows up
pure nimbus
trans doesnt work
counts as dmg
has to be barrier
learned it the hard way on huntress
wooden vortex
Then can show up but I don't think transcendence works
hollow topaz
i thought it just implies that your health must never drop below 100%?
1/1 = 100% tho
pure nimbus
it's talking about combined max hp, which includes shields and hp but not barrier
its dumb ik
hollow topaz
feral coyote
Prismatic trial has static boss spawns it frequently brings in a elites which are outside of their difficulty range
soft acorn
what goes into determining how long after you hit the tele you actually teleport?
slim lintel
Blue shields count as your max hp, barriers from brooch go over your hp and protect it
tough belfry
teleport time depends on money
slim lintel
and killing anything during the teleport adds a shit ton of time
esp if it already got rid of all your money before it died
soft acorn
so dont kill anything but the boss and crystals..
slim lintel
basically yeah, having a bit of extra money when you hit the tele isnt going to make that big of a difference though
tough belfry
having 0 money is like 4 seconds, having 5+ money or something is 6 seconds
slim lintel
I mean you're never really going to end a trial at <5 gold
feral coyote
Unless theres a crowdfunder or brittle crown spawn
naive topaz
how do you not get hit by dunestriders tar when u sucks stuff in, im trying to do the merc challange
i know u have to run away but how do u do enough damage for him to do it and run away
tough belfry
if you stay close to him the whole fight
soft acorn
you stay away
tough belfry
then you dash away and he goes tall
then you do damage to make him suck
he won't start sucking until he stops being tall
slim lintel
there's been trials with crowdfunder but you want to stop it early stage1 to get get to level 2 at least
soft acorn
if you take the route i describe higher up you can get a preon and nuke the titan from afar(so long as you can keep its shield off) + a gesture in the shop
cyan stratus
nice 1:36 i think we have different routes
my best s1 + best s2 is like 1:35 at best
slim lintel
Our routes are probably basically the same, theres not a lot of options
Do you end s2 using the portal or the tele? I found it a lot faster and easier to just use the portal
cyan stratus
tele
no there's 3 options for s2 routing
and i'm too lazy to compare times for all
slim lintel
I'm doing s2 kinda like JEFF but without the stickybomb
cyan stratus
i guess you crystaljump off the 3rd
slim lintel
no crystal jumps s2
cyan stratus
then you're just wasting time by not grabbing sticky
slim lintel
wat
cyan stratus
???
slim lintel
how am I wasting time by not picking up an item? I said kinda like not exactly like. I dont even go near the sticky
cyan stratus
idk how you kill a 3rd crystal then
slim lintel
I kill the same 3rd as him I just barely peek past the edge then go under the log
idk what 3rd crystal you're killing the other one has shitty viewing angles
idk where the 5th is
cyan stratus
no i kill that one
tawdry torrent
Question, is it possible to do the mercenary challenge on the current Prismatic Trial?
Like has anyone actually done it?
elfin plinth
it's possible on any trial if you try lol,the correct question is "Is it possible to easily do Ethereal on current Prismatic Trial?"also,current trial has no brooches to do it easily
slim lintel
only true gamers will unlock merc challenge this trial
naive topaz
if your doing ethereal, do you need to pick up items at all or just boss rush it
wooden vortex
You should pick up items if you know for sure they make your run easier but other than that no
The longer you're in the stage the bigger the chance to get hit
But if there's a preon/capacitor that's worth it
And smaller damage items that are near you are good since you might as well pick them up
naive topaz
i must suck at this game ive tried over 20 times to do the challange and dunstrider always fucking hits me or a wisp right after i frames
wooden vortex
Does it hit u with the suck move
thin timber
This Trial is really bad for trying to do the achiev, best bet is probably to wait for another one that has brooches
wooden vortex
^
naive topaz
alright
wooden vortex
If u wanna be a real gamer go for it but this one is really hard
summer rain
new trial isnt any better
pure nimbus
even if you can get through the whole first stage (which doesn't have any brooches) getting hit, the second stage has a grand total of 1 topaz brooch.
summer rain
hot
nocturne valve
Blazing stone titan and a beetle
naive topaz
muuuch easier than claypot man
strong locust
Nice
shy pecan
using completely legitimate™ methods, of course
fading sparrow
fading sparrow
hmm
tired ember
blazing stone titan MMMMMM ig imma have to be waitinggg for the next trial
fading sparrow
its really feels bad when titan aims to my drone but suddenly change targets to me
ree
wicked nacelle
this ethereal challenge is just way too hard
naive topaz
this goddamn blazing wisp is setting me on fire every single fucking time i try to do the beetle queen
fading sparrow
i never saw blazing wisp in stage 1 🤔
naive topaz
ill screenshot it next time
fading sparrow
i didn't encounter the elite monster in stage 1
naive topaz
yessir
fading sparrow
hm
next boss is blazing titan so
i think next trial could be easier
preon and brooch is helpful
warm vapor
ethereal is a bitch. RNG was on my side for 2nd stage and got a brooch 3D printer but it still wasn't enough
daring chasm
wicked nacelle
im not sure such a thing exists
native glacier
if theres 1 brooch, theres always a way?
sly carbon
what do you even get for doing ethereal?
empty rover
A cool air slash that sends out a sword beam, very anime
slender blaze
Hasagi except it’s trash compared to eviscerate
broken mango
This prismatic trial isn't good for the ethereal achievement right?
elfin plinth
yes
steady peak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615951807876825089/626011687631323156/unknown.png
man, how is 8 places ahead 12 seconds ahead of me
and why are there so many mercs all the time
marble robin
because of the unlock
celest hollow
Ethereal lol
steady peak
oh
dim dune
ethereal is so annoying
thin timber
So, there was an interesting question in #ror2-game-questions , and no one knew for sure, does someone here know? Can you get items that you yourself don't have unlocked on trials?
elfin plinth
all items in trials are same for players,even if they are noit unlocked
steady peak
its me mom, im on television 
fading sparrow
rex best boi
steady peak
ofc in a 2 stages run he's the best since he has the highest base damage early, mercenaries are just cheaters
maybe loader with wax?
steady peak
i wish this game had recordings and they'd give a shit about people modding/cheating on the leaderboards. N++ does an amazing job, everytime a new top10 or whatever gets achieved in any level/episodes, you can see the replay on discord and check for cheats
i took the sticky bomb for more damage that was on the way
since you got money from start + crystal anyway
i can get a better time by not running over health drones, but i cba do grind that out
fading sparrow
tough belfry
if there were no cheaters on the leaderboards there would only ever be like 5 people under 3 minutes
feral coyote
I'd really like to see seperate class leaderboars
feral coyote
As for why merc is so popular they can bug bosses right now
tough belfry
what do you mean bug bosses
fading sparrow
in future, what could be top 10% reward?
tough belfry
probably lunar coins
thin timber
loot boxes
tough belfry
loot boxes that you get lunar coins from
fading sparrow
I'm thinking about limited skins
thin timber
Locking anything gameplay related behind being better than others would be dumb
Better than cheaters 😛
fading sparrow
thin timber
Have an achievement for completing the Trial in under 30 seconds... Reward: BANNED
tough belfry
what was your loader route this trial
soft acorn
send a video recording
hard ridge
are there anyway to do the prismatic trial without getting hit while using mercenary?
thin timber
It's really hard, best to wait for a trial that has Brooches
hard ridge
the topaz thingy?
thin timber
Yeah
hard ridge
that sucks, wanna try the new loadout tho
cyan stratus
sub2
maiden stream
cyan stratus
the number doesn't matter though? top 50 is filled with sub 2 mercs hacking to get the achievement
wooden vortex
^
slim lintel
idk how stupid you have to be to cheat and beat a trial when you can just basically edit a txt file to unlock it
wow is this trial really that bad where rex is barely sub2?
wooden vortex
Hey give them some credit it's an XML file not a TXT file
And have you seen where it is? That's a lot of folders
slim lintel
nah only file I've edited is the one with the difficulty names
what stages is this trial? If it has swamp again I'm uninstalling game
cyan stratus
first stage x2
slim lintel
what time does rex get to s1 tele
slim lintel
I can get to tele in sub 35 with arti 👀
cyan stratus
and you think that rex doesn't make up for those 4 seconds with dmg
shy pecan
do you like any of the new arti skills?
slim lintel
no throw them in the nearest toilet or trash can thats where they belong, the alt m2 is ok but I still heavily prefer stock
shy pecan
lol
i like that i can actually hit things with new m1
but less damage so not really worth it
slim lintel
the new R has less range than flamethrower and if you factor in the burn DoT it does like a quarter damage of flamethrower and has a longer cd. The DoT damage doesnt matter much after stage 5ish in a normal run but it helps a lot early on. And the name of this game is procs, the new R barely being able to hit anything and having a long cooldown leaves arti with so few hits to proc anything and a ton of downtime. It's a horribly designed skill that has no business being an R
soft acorn
Id like it better as a utility but its mobility buff is the best in yhe game. You become inpervious to imps and everything else is shit at aiming up. Also u can access chests on elevated maps faster and get newts whenever u need them early stage on monsoon without sacrificing time. As an r its sad tho, flamethrower is just too good. But I wanna see how the m2 behaves with the fixed proc
slim lintel
did you mean m1 or does the m2 also have screwed up procs?
soft acorn
M1* I like the faster load on m2, great for dealing with elites early on
slim lintel
wait the new m2 charges faster?
soft acorn
Feels slightly faster, but I haven't looked in the stats, just 150h of artificer main
Even if it didn't it flies way faster
U tried loader runs yet? Mobility boost is good for some seeds but far off crystals are a bitch
slim lintel
Loader would be good if they could deal with bosses a faster
maybe if theres a band easily accessible you can farm for a punch proc or 2 but blegh
tough belfry
loader's mobility is ruined when you have to melee crystals
probably slower to get to the teleporter than other characters just because of that
slim lintel
I had a great fast s1 route last trial for loader but gave up trying when I realized she sucks at killing bosses
shy pecan
one day, we will get a seed with brainstalks
and then huntress will finally have a chance at beating rex
cyan stratus
we had one a while ago and mult was still faster
shy pecan
yes but now we can ballista spam
shy pecan
ye it deals more damage than arrow rain and isn't over 6 seconds
so you can burst stuff really quickly with brainstalks
by spamming r and m1
cyan stratus
still gotta kill an elite first
shy pecan
ye but you've got a pretty good chance at that happening, and you probably only need 1
slim lintel
If Huntress ever beats Rex in a trial (without rex getting nerfed in some way) I'll eat my cats
blissful stump
how to mercenary 100% 😦
slim lintel
play the video game and dont get hit
fading raft
wisps are the most annoying part
dire ocean
slim lintel
man its pretty bullshit that the melee ranged mage with no mobility does 1/3rd the damage of the high mobility character that can snipe across whole maps where enemy ai cant reach with his best ability
rex takes ~16 seconds to kill a s1 boss arti takes ~23 seconds according to my shitty test 
trash
cyan stratus
yea rex is stupid for trials
latent stag
Y’all are forgetting the true champion of trials, commando
sudden pond
Is it possible to get the Rex achievement for the teleporter event in prismatic trials?
Never mind, the answer is yes
austere ivy
Is this trial a good seed for the merc challenge?
digital token
Can I subscribe to an notification email list for good merc 100% seeds
naive topaz
is it worth to get as many whites as possible to use it at the brooch printer on stage 2?
slim lintel
2-3 brooches should be enough
summer rain
not funny. didnt ahaha.
shy pecan
it wasn't a joke, i actually needed 12
summer rain
oh fuck wrong channel
timid osprey
@austere ivy Yea. I got a webm I could throw up later.
tawdry torrent
you did it on the current one?
zenith plinth
i got it too
This was my setup
(Knurl got after as a prize for beating that stinky blaze)
soft acorn
Noice, welcome to the big kids club
@slim lintel you can still bug loaders charge if you twist and m1/hook at the right moment when hitting and edge inside the boss granting you like infinite dps. But that will get fixed in the hotfix patch so rip loader speedruns
tawdry torrent
where did you get all those brooches?
zenith plinth
there's a printer on the second stage up in your top left view once you spawn
its on a cliff side
My strategy was to beat the first stage as quickly as possible
since if you wait even 10 seconds too long wisps will spawn during the boss
and that ruins your run
slim lintel
Bugs like that and the old mult equipment bug are looked down upon. Anything that will most likely be patched out like that is a nono. Out of bounds stuff is rarely good and allowed though. At least I think thats what the few of us agreed on I can't remember
soft acorn
Yh most speedruns have glitchy and non-glitchy cathegory for a reason
tawdry torrent
Thanks Foxperson, I'll try it
I thought that printer was of armor piercing
but I assume you mean another one
brisk shard
Nivy u pass challenge already?
tawdry torrent
Wait now I got brooch, so it IS random... wtf
cyan stratus
no
tawdry torrent
I'm serious I got Armor piercing like 5 times in a row
only now I'm getting that brooch printer on the same exact spot as the Armor Piercing
cyan stratus
key changes items
broken mango
You guys have any tips for the current trial for that no hit achievement?
maiden fossil
stay up to date and wait for a good seed
tawdry torrent
pray to the lords of RNG
tough belfry
don't get hit
hidden axle
For the merc challenge, if you get transcendence does it break it. Or does that not work
tough belfry
transcendence doesn't work for the challenge
hidden axle
Thats wht i thought, i couldn't remember if someone posted dat already
2nd question, do we always get a elite boss on the 2nd stage. i/e overloading Worm or whatever
pearl eagle
What boss you get depends on seed and time of tp activation
So you could get different bosses if you are slower on one of the runs
hidden axle
Ahh k, and lost thing. The shield through the gray item, can't remember the name. Will that help in the merc challenge?
pearl eagle
The brooch? Yes, a trial with topaz brooch will be significantly easier for merc challenge
Think there is a printer on s2
hidden axle
Srry no, i think its called shield capictor? srry spelling
pearl eagle
So you can farm white items and spam the printer if you want
Ah, I think that probably makes you fail
Since trans doesn't work I'd assume so atleast
hidden axle
Ya me too, but I don't know for sure. Just cause the tooltips are different on how they read
pearl eagle
Yeah, can't say for 100% myself but I highly doubt it, since the game counts the shield from trans as health, I don't see why the game would think otherwise about the capacitor
slim lintel
Shield counts as hp, barriers from brooch go over your hp and protect it.
quaint stratus
saw a screenshot with 5 topaz. is this prismatic trial a good one for the 100% achiev?
pearl eagle
There should be a brooch printer on s2, dunno if it's with or without key from s1 though
karmic kindle
Does anyone know where the newt altar is in Stage 1 in this trial?
thin timber
There isn't one, from what I've found
tough belfry
there is a brooch printer :v
but the boss is blazing stone titan
stage 1 is really easy
zenith plinth
I can create a Screenshot by Screenshot guide on the path I took
I tried to optimize it as much as i could for myself but there could always be a better solution
old wind
How many of you completed the challenge with the recent seed already?
noble basin
please do
broken mango
eyy beat it too
honest estuary
What are the stages for current prismatio? Good one to do huntress achive@ent on?
broken mango
@honest estuary it's the first two starting stages, so no, can't do the huntress achievement
fallen wyvern
Fucking finalyly
obtuse nexus
What's this seed's strat?
fallen wyvern
im guessing do the first map fast and pray the wisps dont rape you, then print all the brooches
obtuse nexus
sheesh
broken mango
Nice
fallen wyvern
FYI the brooches printer is there only if you're fast, if you take too long its a AP rounds one
i dont know how or why, but it is for me atleast
fringe cosmos
Probably because the Scene director gets a different number of credits if you take too long
fallen wyvern
i tought i was fucked the first time i tried the run cause i checked every item before hand and theres only one brooch if you dont get the printer
pearl eagle
It's if you pick up key or not on s1 probably
Time shouldn't change items in containers at all, but often very change containers
fallen wyvern
also, do shields count as hp ? i mean normal shield, not barriers
slim lintel
ya
fallen wyvern
i was thinking maybe just wait until you get a bazaar and hope for transcendence and fuck that challenge
pearl eagle
Doesn't work sadly, shields counts as health
fallen wyvern
a damn shame
everything else was quite easy and/or boring honestly
the 20 stage one with commando was quite annoying since the game keeps crashing on me
slim lintel
the 20 stages commando one was annoying because it makes you play commando for 20 stages
pearl eagle
^
honest estuary
Commando is fun. He feels like a huntress to me. Weaker early game but once you get a build he destroys. I also tortured myself and did it on Monsoon. Took a couple days but Iearned to enjoy Commando and unlockeboth abilities and skin that run
slim lintel
his new R has to be one of the worst feeling abilities to use in the game, you gotta stop shooting and they just bounce around so stupidly. Also have awful sound design and visual feedback
pearl eagle
If they were impact nades I'd probably like playing commando
Learned to enjoy him somewhat during the unlock phase after update
slim lintel
They'd be a lot better if they were contact, right now though they're a direct downgrade especially the further you go since the nades dont scale with attack speed like the original R
primal bane
I learned to love commando after doing the 20 stage run, gotta do the monsoon challenge after being robbed lol. His original R does immediately seem stronger late game since it can become a gatling gun with the right items lol
fallen wyvern
i actually really liked the nade, commando sucks early but rapes everything lategame (with items obviously) his main dmg dealer is his leftclick, so having some burst early game really help you get going, shame is so weird and finicky to use honestly
with the explode on impact and either more dmg in the center or a bigger aoe, its should be useful enough
honest estuary
I agree and. If they let you throw it while firing your m1 itd be perfect
viscid fiber
I’m trying to play catch-up in this conversation and I’m wondering how I’m supposed to get the merc achievement today. I’m seeing that it looks hypothetically doable? I have to beat the first stage first though?
pearl eagle
You gotta do run of both stage 1 and 2 without dropping under 100% hp, that basically means don't get hit at all during the entire trial. During stage 2 however there is a 3d printer with brooch, which gives a shield that protects your health instead of adding to your total health pool. That let's you tank a couple hits during s2 which makes that stage much easier to complete without taking damage
viscid fiber
@pearl eagle that’s for the info. I give up for now. I have no idea how I can make that happen and I’m just not good enough of a player.
fallen wyvern
you should try now before the map changes, i did it today and it just takes a lil bit of luck
finite egret
Other than the mercenary thing do the trials provide anything?
fallen wyvern
its not that hard honestly, you just dont have to get tilted, thats the hardest part
@finite egret not right now
pearl eagle
Completing a single trial unlocks the scythe that heals you when you crit
finite egret
Yeah got the scythe but the trials really interest me just wandering if there was anything else
pearl eagle
You can also do other challenges in them, like a trial with rallypoint delta is pretty good for the huntress challenge
No, other than competing for top times they don't do a whole lot
fallen wyvern
finite egret
Ahh ok, hopefully they add extra soon
"The top 10% are rewarded literally nothing for now" haha I love that bit
viscid fiber
@fallen wyvern that’s literally why I don’t wanna do it. It has nothing to do with how much I practice. I just have to metaphorically best my head against a brick wall and if I’m lucky, I shatter my skull and get to go to heaven. I wanna play a fun game not be frustrated. Now I’m frustrating myself for being whiny lol. It never ends !
@pearl eagle what do you mean “unlocks” you mean the green item right? That just lasts for your run doesn’t it?
pearl eagle
There's a challenge that says "complete a prismatic trial", and unlocks the green scythe that heals when you crit
fallen wyvern
@viscid fiber not true though, it needs a lot of skill and discipline, you mainly gotta get a lil lucky cause we're human and thats it
but this is one of the better maps you're gonna get
i can try to give you some tips and pointers if you'd like
thin timber
Is the Stage 2 boss always a Blazing Titan? Or is it not Blazing if you get there soon enough?
viscid fiber
@fallen wyvern I will accept any guidance. I’m frustrated and I am being a little fussy butt about it but at the same time I don’t want to just put all of my whining on everybody’s phone screens and not have anything come of it and honestly I appreciate you taking the time to give me some pointers because my impatience a showing and if I need a minute to bitch I don’t want to do that and take that moment without pushing through it and trying to do something constructive.
thin timber
If you're patient enough, someday there will be an insane trial with like 2 brooches and a behemoth on Stage 1 right next to the spawn 🤷
fallen wyvern
@viscid fiber ok, this might be long. first you should drop down and grab the two barrels, spam shift and R a bunch here cause nothing spawns, so dont be afraid of getting caught off guard, just go fast
i dont know if you know this, but the crystals dmg you, so use the R on them after they have like half hp
jump up here
a little after breaking the crystal a couple of golem and a lemurian are gonna spawn, you can kind of ignore them, but if you hide to avoid the golem's beam, remember that the hit has a tiny aoe so make some distance inbetween you and whatever you're using as cover
get this drone, his gonna take aggro, tank and also deal dmg, a literal live saver, is just left from the img before
both this chest and the ? in the trishop have AP rounds, they help a bunch with the boss
jump straight to the bridge, if you're not fast enough (in overall time, not just this jump), the brooch printer wont be in the next level
autumn glade
isn't printer affected by rusted key and not time?
fallen wyvern
drop down there to the right and get the chest, and then break the crystal there, jumping down here gives you cover from the spawns up there too
pearl eagle
Printer affected by key
fallen wyvern
i couldnt tell you what affects it, but when i took longer than like 4 mins the brooches wherent there, it might just be the key though
pearl eagle
Picking up key on s1 can change contents of everything in s2
thin timber
Yeah, it's picking up the key, not the time
autumn glade
people were talking about it before.. so no key = brooch printer?
fallen wyvern
when you're fighting the bettle queen, make sure to play on the green side, your drone is slower than you so hes most likely gonna end up on the other side of the boss, taking the aggro from the wisps, you should be safe there, also, dont forget to save your R to avoid the acid attack from the queen
and that should be it, thats the hard part done, now just rush the printer, print what you have, then just get money and print more brooches, remember to kill everything so you keep the shield up
thin timber
And don't get yeeted by the blazing stone titan
autumn glade
^
fallen wyvern
thats basically the plan i followed 😛
if you time your m2 (i was using the unlock) you should stay basically on his face all the time, so you dont get burned
autumn glade
might be worth the try when I get home tomorrow
fallen wyvern
@autumn glade remember the time limit, you dont wanna sit down to try and then is a different map
thin timber
It's more the laser that ruined most of my runs :/
autumn glade
when does the seed change?
thin timber
26 hours 38 minutes 50 seconds
autumn glade
that's good then
pearl eagle
Tip for those who don't know, if you stand close enough to titan he will never laser you
He only lasers when you are a distance away from him
fallen wyvern
@pearl eagle only if you dont have drones, he de-aggros from you (if you use R for example) then hes gonna try to laser the drone, and then he might aggro you again
its has happened
thin timber
How close is close enough lol? I was glued to him and he still lasered
Ah yeah, might've been a drone
pearl eagle
Yeah, he might target drone then swap. Might consider not getting drone if that keeps ruining your runs
thin timber
The drone is what makes Stage 1 boss doable tho
fallen wyvern
the laser was never a problem for me, i just didnt use my R so i could avoid it enough so he changed targets
tough belfry
stage 1 boss is fine if you just rush it with the right route
i had literally 1 wisp spawn
shy talon
does this trial end on floor 2?
fallen wyvern
@tough belfry i had a consistent group of 4 wisps and a blazing wisp
thin timber
Every trial ends on Stage 2
fallen wyvern
a nightmare