you're so invested in trying to beat the trial you forgot the reason you're playing the trial
#prismatic-trials
cyan stratus
wow nvm this route is complete garbage what was i thinking
trying to survive blazing titan phase 2 is garbage
white frost
that bandit trial was pretty awful to do with a controller
more so than anyone else
MUL-T's sniper has an extremely lenient hitbox, and most other attacks in the game do as well
but I've just realized I'm leaving an input method on the table
PS4 controllers have gyro
solar void
is 3:58 a decent time? i cant fight the last boss as merc :/
cyan stratus
i haven't tried any inferior characters yet
cyan stratus
yea there's only 3 hackers in front of me
solar void
lots of rng this trial
cyan stratus
yea
solar void
atleast it isnt boring tho
wow
i got super lucky or super skiled
3:17
any unhacked mercs in top 5? i cant quite see
wooden vortex
this trial got me actin strange
white frost
Protip for not getting beat by cabbage: Don't tell cabbage which class you're playing
solar void
ikr
wooden vortex
he cant be better than you if you never play
slim lintel
I dont think he's beaten me on arti, but he just cant handle the egg
solar void
my faster way wasnt faster... i think i just need rng at this point
cyan stratus
did you forget the trial you refused to play until i routed it out for you 🙃
white frost
Alternatively play Commando, I don't think even Cabbage wants to deal with that
cyan stratus
commando requires you to shoot through 30ft of walls to kill crystals blind in order to optimize it and i'm not good enough for that but if i dont hit the snipes i reset so i never actually complete a run
solar void
ill have to try it sometime
slim lintel
routed? You mean pointed out the crystal my dumbass didnt find
cyan stratus
merc 2nd clear 3:03
and its not my fault you forgot to turn your monitor on and didnt see a crystal
white frost
it's a shame that 3 minute commando guy didn't have a video
would've loved to see it
slim lintel
I'm trying to commando rn but jesus the way his m2 doesnt go where you aim pisses me off so much
cyan stratus
you can kinda help by jumping
i like jumping
that's why i always jump
merc 2:52
lowkey fun to play
slim lintel
commando really gets screwed by adds on this one
solar void
ill have to explore more or hope for missile crits
11% chance to blow my old record away every run, i like it 😄
solar void
its bound to happen eventually
my current one doesnt have it crit
what time do you get out of first floor
cause i spend alot of time there
slim lintel
3:06 first attempt with huntrass 
she actually feels pretty good this trial
cyan stratus
i get anywhere between 1:30 and 1:50
you said huntress feels good but you got 3:06 what
sub 2 when
solar void
sounds right... maybe im missing a path in 2nd room then
solar void
my first try was 0
cause i died...
im going, but im going to beat that merc time tomorrow... just need a better route for 2nd floor
cyan stratus
i wonder what items you're getting floor 1
solar void
im keeping it a secret till a get a low time and vid
solar void
you keep your secrets
cyan stratus
see how close you can get to it (^:
solar void
will do tommorrow
pearl eagle
Challenge accepted
cyan stratus
maybe there's ridiculous crit rng possible but i got really lucky and no 2:05
and i think it's optimal
cyan stratus
yea i'm at least a netgear
although
can you try s2 without picking up any items, taking top route and straight to portal while surviving titan
i think maybe that has chance to be faster
pearl eagle
should be
cyan stratus
after reviewing the footage my 2nd boss was slower than @slim lintel 's huntress with arthritis so there's room for improvement
white frost
I put a feedback for adding a restart button on the pause menu
can't be the only one annoyed at its absence
slim lintel
i'd already done that a good while back didnt get enough updoots to make it tho
wooden ridge
👍
wooden ridge
Almost there 👀
white frost
Gave you a boop, didn't know that suggestion was there
I dunno about free, more interesting if a trial always gave you three coins or so
white frost
Ohey you got through
white frost
I'm gonna use HAN-D for this one
he's really awful, I'm not sure I can actually physically beat it
if I get sub 5 I'mma be excited about it
cyan stratus
white frost
think I'm giving up
HAN-D just can't deal with a blazing boss
having 800HP on stage 2 does nothing when the enemy eats a % of your HP by simply existing within your attack range
cyan stratus
wtf is a hand
random dune
stuck geyser
Yeah
You can do something in cheat engine if you are host or some stuff with the assembly file
Sniper is also playable but really really unfinished
Han d and bandit function pretty well, Han d is missing some animations though
Not sure how finished his abilities are since I usually just use bandit who’s only semi unfinished ability is his dynamite
Enforcer is completely unplayable as his abilities are a mix of commando’s and bandit’s except none of them work
white frost
I edited the dll to unlock them
Bandit plays pretty well
The flare is missing some effects, and that and lights out has some janky hitboxes
HAN-D I dunno what to think about
His attacks are slow but his base stat are through the goddamn roof
He moves at 8.5/s stock
One goat hoof it's like MUL-T permanently in transport mode
I can't fight blazings with him to save my life
He also starts with 20 damage and 300 hp which is comically large
But worthless for blazing titan
stuck geyser
I haven’t noticed any jank with lights out hitbox
slim lintel
wtf are all those crits on crystals obvs cheat
cyan stratus
lmao
wind lichen
vestal breach
oh no
proven mountain
Y I K E S
wooden ridge
Guys the trials are fun, just keep playing them. Plez
cyan stratus
this one isn't
wooden ridge
shhhhh
proven mountain
Last time i did a trial I had to fight an overloading dunestrider
that was fucking AWFUL
cyan stratus
they really aren't
slim lintel
tbh they're getting pretty boring and same-ish, we need more modifiers/bosses/maps
at least this one actually has items that are worth it I guess
wooden ridge
No u
wooden ridge
I havnt played yet
empty rover
Blazing Dunestrider can swallow my whole penis
zenith plinth
Tic tac
wooden ridge
I’m coming home now so I’ll see how much of a pain this trial is
hard yacht
8 minutes
lavish raven
banned
zenith plinth
hard yacht
P fast if I say so myself
zenith plinth
oh but trials are on rainstorm
wooden ridge
just got 3:06 merc
wooden ridge
ok but yea this trial is dog shit
slim lintel
any trial with swamp ass is bad
wooden vortex
Aside from Crit RNG I actually like this one
cyan stratus
3:06 wow
solar void
i missed talk of prismatic trial feedback
i guess i dont know how to link it... its just for a group prismatic trial
and i like this trial too
ill like it more when i get my 11% chance at top of leaderboards
livid vine
sigh another rough trials
Blazing Stone Titan
at least its not trash mobs though so i shouldn't complain
solar void
yeah last boss is hard for me :/
wooden ridge
@cyan stratus is that a good time? I thought it was absolute garbage lmao
solar void
he got 2:46 if i remember right
solar void
i have a good route but i keep dieing to the last boss :/
wooden ridge
no to what
cyan stratus
you pinged me but discord didnt load new messages
cyan stratus
for which character??
livid vine
Arti
livid vine
cyan stratus
@slim lintel
livid vine
@wooden ridge ay lmao
slim lintel
what
f this trial btw
the first crystal in s2 is bugged as shit and you cant jump with it at all
cyan stratus
what was ur arti time
slim lintel
2:15
cyan stratus
big
slim lintel
I was trying your route with the ap rounds instead of missile launcher, I think it'd be faster if that damn crystal wasnt half way in the ground
cyan stratus
yeah but the weird thing
i can grab missile launcher and ap rounds because mult can snipe
and it's literally like 10sec slower to grab missile launcher for some unknown reason
solar void
what are AP rounds?
wooden ridge
@livid vine LOL
solar void
ohhh those things
wooden ridge
where are the AP?
livid vine
i never found the AP rounds
cyan stratus
<-----
wooden vortex
S2
wooden ridge
which box?
wooden vortex
Back walkway
cyan stratus
wow im disappointed in y'all
wooden ridge
are they out of the way?? lol
wooden vortex
Immediately to the left when u spawn
cyan stratus
if you watched my video you'd know ):
cyan stratus
thanks :)
livid vine
i ain't scrolling up
cyan stratus
loyal subscriber
slim lintel
still not subbed tho 
wooden vortex
I wanted to watch but school wifi broke
cyan stratus
you can click my name to get a link to my youtube channel
make sure to subscribe while you're there to join the MULT cult
wooden vortex
CUL-T
cyan stratus
but that's pronounced "CUL T"
slim lintel
Don't forget to smash that like button and hit that little bell to be alerted to every new upload
cyan stratus
of course
slim lintel
don't forget to whore your vids out in #ror-streams-and-videos
cyan stratus
you forgot we're the only ones that care about prismatic trials though
it would be the same as linking a minecraft letsplay there
slim lintel
I put one of my twitch clips in there and it got like 130 views
cyan stratus
wait wtf
slim lintel
so some people care
cyan stratus
ok lemme test
slim lintel
make sure your thumbnail has a red circle around mult and a red arrow pointing at a crystal so they know what they're getting in to
YOU WONT BELIEVE HOW FAST THIS ROBOT IS
wooden vortex
INSANE TRAIL RUN (i got WHAT TIME??!!)
solar void
ap rounds are way out of the way
wooden vortex
Not totally
slim lintel
only if you're a char that cant snipe
solar void
well... merc cant
wooden vortex
At least not for arti and mult lol
slim lintel
arti can snipe the crystal up on the land bridge once you're close to the tele, just aim at the little lantern thing next to it
cyan stratus
i extensively tested both ap round route and top route with and without missile launcher and i'm 95% sure ap round with no launcher is fastest for mult
wooden vortex
Ya Merc is no go
wooden vortex
The only way I think it could be faster is a Crit on the rockets
wooden ridge
im thinking if i can pick up all 3 crit glasses 🤔
wooden vortex
But thenagain you could just Crit with pen anyways
slim lintel
did we ever figure out if the missile launcher snapshots crit or not
cyan stratus
yes it does
solar void
it does
slim lintel
I havent played it a ton and never got a crit
wooden vortex
I kinda wish the trials were longer sometimes
cyan stratus
they can be as long as you want them to be
wooden vortex
I'd love to see like 3 categories for runs with like 2 4 and 6 maps each
More routing / diversity
cyan stratus
i wrote a literal book the other day about a 4 map trial but i'm too lazy to dig it up
wooden vortex
Also one of my friends was gonna try longest run record lmao
Try and use as much of the 72 hours as possible
slim lintel
I mean after 120~ mins shit just stops spawning idk why you would do that. Boring as hell
wooden ridge
i think i can nab 3 crit glasses as merc and might get a fast time
cyan stratus
go ahead
wooden vortex
Pretty sure it's impossible to do a 72 hours trial tho because u have limited items and the bosses have so long to scale
solar void
i wont have more time to run it tonight, ill upload my strat
wooden vortex
That is if they even spawn lol
livid vine
slim lintel
wait ya, just wait 72 hours on stage 1 then nothing will spawn s2 real strats
livid vine
@wooden ridge sorry bud
slim lintel
now beat my 2:15
wooden vortex
Wait my Arti run is still 25 wtf
livid vine
i just need to get lucky crits
slim lintel
more and more cheaters are getting bored and just not even doing it
cyan stratus
yeah i'm rank 18
wooden vortex
Yeah it's literally just Crit farming lol
cyan stratus
cheaters got bored
slim lintel
whoda thunkit
cyan stratus
no reward 🙃
wooden vortex
I got really lucky on a slow route and just never was able to get that lucky again on a faster route
It was like my 5th - 6th attempt lol
And then I played it for 3 hours and never beat it
wooden ridge
i just got really unlucky and right as i started my boss fight 3 jelly fishes ate my missles
wooden vortex
Feelsgoodman
wooden ridge
im like 80% sure that if i do this right i can get around 2:45
solar void
1wst stage strat is where its weird im sure you guys found something as gfood or better 2nd stage
cyan stratus
oh no what is that 1st stage
solar void
health drones deal damage 😄
cyan stratus
but that's a 1:48 pause
solar void
you said yours was 1:30-1:50
cyan stratus
1:35
wooden vortex
Anyone else have that weird thing happen on mul-t where you can't Ram the S2 boss right as it's spawning
Like as it's coming out of the ground
cyan stratus
wooden ridge
If only I had the time to play
I think you could kill the s1 boss quicker by possibly grabbing the fireworks and buying the 2 health drones
cyan stratus
how tf im getting lv4 then
wooden ridge
Idk make it happen 🤷♀️
I have little knowledge of how prismatic trials work
I can just play gud
slim lintel
wtf not putting your vid in the howto & style category on yt what is wrong with you
white frost
was... was this requested?
livid vine
🤷
cyan stratus
lmao what
i could name an entire list of things i want with prismatic trials but that wasn't one of them 🙃
maybe it brings more people to trials idk
white frost
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slim lintel
100% its never going to be used, and if it is used it wont be to talk about trials
at least they have trials somewhere on their minds
granite coral
tried trials for the first time tonight its very addicting
i got 3:22:54 with multi
white frost
it's quite fun!
I got a high 3 minutes myself, gonna try a bit harder when I get off work
Cabbage has like a 2:05 or something ridiculous
granite coral
That’s wild
I have the route down I just get unlucky with fighting the second boss
white frost
Gotta stick close to him then he won't shoot the laser
white frost
Yeah he won't try the laser if you're too close
granite coral
Oh I didn’t know that
white frost
Most people don't know about it, but it generally makes titans a joke
Blazings are still problematic because of the meteors
granite coral
All you have to worry about then is getting set on fire
white frost
There's a second quirk for safely fighting blazings
He summons the meteor thing at half health
If you get him almost to half health, then wait for him to start his punch animation, you can then keep attacking him and deal with no meteors during the whole punch animation + the meteor summoning animation
granite coral
That makes sense, just gotta get good enemy rng too
I was doing the fireworks route for more dmg but it takes a little longer
But it helps mitigate some enemies
white frost
Enemies aren't strictly speaking rng, not who spawns and when at least
If you keep the same pace you'll get the same enemies
The position and their AI is a different story
wooden ridge
Oh look they actually gave us a prismatic trials VC
livid vine
nobody asked for it though
wooden ridge
cough yea nobody cough
livid vine
are you one of them
wooden ridge
white frost
I'm testing out gyro controls
at first it was preeeetty awful
had to calibrate my controllers, so that's a good step 1
after assigning a hold button for it (X on my PS4 pad) so I can use it only when I feel like it and set it to mouse movement, it's feeling a lot better
I can aim pretty precisely with it, at least much better than with the stick
it's going to take some getting used to, but maybe I can even perform jumpsnipes at this rate
the game thankfully allows for smooth combination of mouse and stick
some games are pretty nazi about it
wooden ridge
I should start playing mult and get fastest times kappa
white frost
i'm just going to get a sub 3 with him so I know I won't even approach it with my HAN-D run
wooden ridge
Funny enough I got the charge teleporter achievement under 10% health with this prismatic
white frost
with a blazing boss I'm not surprised
slim lintel
ew
cyan stratus
yikes
white frost
god fucking damnit
I got a 5:50 with HAN-D
and I could've gotten much less if I'd paid attention 'cause
I got a world event, all beetles
blazing beetle queen is incapable of setting you on fire
if I'd known I wouldn't have farmed stage 2 for extra stuff
I'll probably not be able to beat that time
white frost
yeahhh
okay I definitely have to pick up the fireworks
with his 20 base damage popping the two heal drones took out nearly half the health on the first boss
I'm gonna save them until he's below half
wooden ridge
Yea that’s what I tried at one point
white frost
it's a VERY different story with HAN-D
wooden ridge
Fireworks have insane damage scaling
white frost
most survivors have 12 base damage
wooden ridge
But buying drones = less gold:XP ratio
white frost
so HAN-D is 2/3 stronger with fireworks than most of them
42% stronger than even engineer
yeah but
I'm gonna need heal drones for blazing titan I think
if nothing else than as distractions
white frost
5;23
I'm getting close to a run that won't bring shame upon my family
firework strat is working out
as did buying all the drones
I got hit wit ha 5 stack of fire but because of lasers reduced coefficient I survived it just fine
I'm gonna try a bit more for sub 5
maybe I should double back for that AP round
granite coral
My heal drones never heal me they always heal each other T-T
white frost
definitely nix on doubling back for AP rounds
but I'm now certain I'm getting that sub 5
white frost
hm
4:49
that's when the titan levels up and heals 800 HP
I need to down him before that happens
white frost
4:33
that's a wrap, I'm happy with this one
aside from the blazing titan, I think this prismatic is unusally nice to HAN-D
it's got a lot of base damage items between fireworks, disposable launcher, wisp, atg, and gasoline
those are all items that are WAY stronger on HAN-D than anyone else thanks to 20 base damage
the key was definitely getting all of those, starting with the fireworks so I didn't have to actually attack most enemies
cyan stratus
ok
wooden ridge
Cabbage ur an apple
cyan stratus
im not an apple
wooden ridge
Freakin apples really out here calling themselves a vegetable
cyan stratus
me neither
wooden ridge
I’ve only spent like an hour on this trial
cyan stratus
ive spent 15 minutes
wooden ridge
Total nah
cyan stratus
im just fast
slim lintel
he's fast everyone 
solar void
atleast someone aprecieated my fireworks strat
granite coral
Wait......how do you get HAN-D
granite coral
Oh okay
Do you think they’ll fix the teleport delay to ending the runs? It adds like 5 extra seconds from when you activate it
slim lintel
Its just how the game works, ror1 did it as well I don't see it changing.
granite coral
Yeah it’s just disheartening when you’ve potentially beaten your last time and then the clock is still ticking after you’ve pressed the button 😭
cyan stratus
that's a funny way of saying "i can't beat cabbage's time"
wooden ridge
If you want to take it that way
white frost
I don't think I'll be seeing firework runs again in a while
wooden ridge
Y’all try speed running obelisk yet?
Use the mod that charges TP after killing boss
It’s pretty fun
white frost
Is there a category on speedruns.com for that mod
wooden ridge
It’s like prismatic except you can’t plan
slim lintel
speedrunning base game is dumb, it solely depends on what speed items you get and tele spawn
white frost
I've been playing with the thought of trying the category but don't feel like rng grinding with merc
wooden ridge
I feel that
I just do it fun tbh
It dosnt get that boring because everything is different
pearl eagle
I tried a couple of runs of the base game, but it was extremely tedious being completely reliant on getting the right items and guessing the location of teleporter and such
So I basically gave up after like 3 successful runs
wooden ridge
I guess it just dosnt click to everyone. 
pearl eagle
A speedrun being consistant is sort of the reason I like them so much, because you can practice them and get good through effort
But this game being speedrun feels like more rng than skill sadly
Wish they had some form of prismatic trial that was longer and stayed up for a longer period of time
cyan stratus
i want 4 stage prismatic trial with increasing difficulty so that you have to route items and maybe even grinding in the route instead of just rushing portal, that lasts longer than 3 days, like a week or so, so that there's plenty of time to make routes and w/e
fading canyon
@cyan stratus what's ur time
cyan stratus
like 2:07 or something
fading canyon
jeez
I got a 2:33 after routing and playing for like 4 hours
what character did you use
pearl eagle
cyan stratus
mult
pearl eagle
Yes, MUL-T is quite nasty
cyan stratus
fading canyon
i feel nasty
slim lintel
did anyone beat my 2:15 on arti?
pearl eagle
You wouldn't happen to have a video? Could give Arti a shot this trial
slim lintel
no vid arti sucks this trial, lots of travel s1 and no crystal jumps on either stage
well there's a potential one on s2 but the crystal is bugged (partially in the ground I think) and wont give you any knockback
wraith ermine
Guess I know now what I'd be able to do if I wasn't so gosh darn angry
pearl eagle
Looks like an angry MUL-T main
wraith ermine
I'm me, just so happen to also have a leafy green-related name
cyan stratus
ok you can be lettuce or spinach
wraith ermine
nope
has to be cabbage, this is my legit name i've actually had for years gosh darnit
just gonna have to be 2 cabbages I suppose
cyan stratus
hmm whoever gets the better time is the most relevant
what's your time this trial 🙃
wraith ermine
literally did one PT, didn't find it fun, haven't done one again :V
i just popped in here to make a joke about names
white frost
You can be Angry Zeddy if you want I don't mind
wraith ermine
i'm pretty content to be Cabbage's angry, slow counterpart
slim lintel
cabbage should be salty cabbage, or better yet apple
pearl eagle
iforgotwho, do you pick up the AP bullets?
I got a feeling Arti can beat MUL-T if you get good crit rng
Just found the disposable missile launcher as well which also can crit
Which is in my path on s2
slim lintel
in my small amounts of testing the missile launcher was better
cyan stratus
in my large amounts of testing it wasn't
pearl eagle
Just got a 2:09,45
Arti ain't garbage my dude
That was without launcher cuz one of the titans I kill before entering stage 2 was gone so I didn't have cash
Got one flamethrower crit on s1 boss
slim lintel
meh guess I didn't look around for a good path s1 or somethin' really losing interest
slim lintel
o thats what I use too
idk where you gained those 8 secs then
guess a lot of crits
didnt farm this one at all
pearl eagle
There aren't any more crit glasses on s1 are there? If we could get a better route on s1 that would make beating the MUL-T gang a lot easier
cyan stratus
there's one in a terminal
white frost
first stage has at least two glasses, then there's a third one in stage 3
but the two glasses are on opposite paths
slim lintel
I find trials without any crystal jumps really dull and boring. The only thing that hooked me in to trials was figuring out I could crystal jump
pearl eagle
I mean, crystal jumps are the bread and butter of Arti in trials
white frost
yeah my first good trial I did crystal jumping as engineer, that's when trials hooked me
by the way, have any of you considered going right, then back-sniping the crystal hidden behind your start point?
that seems like a mouse-user could take good advantage of
slim lintel
that path just has so much extra walking time tho
pearl eagle
Yeah, found a new route
Beat @cyan stratus by one second
Includes a lot of crystal jumps
Arti gang ftw 
New route for Arti for those aspiring Arti mains
cyan stratus
big
pearl eagle
Big what?
cyan stratus
run
cyan stratus
tbh i think arti is objectively better than mult in trials
boss clear speed is just too fast
pearl eagle
Yeah, especially if Arti gets a pair of crit glasses
Those flamethrowers melt like crazy
slim lintel
damn nice route
pearl eagle
😉
white frost
thinking about that 4-level trial that lasts for a week
I could try modding one in, but not sure anyone would be interested speedrunning a mod
also wouldn't be leaderboards but leaderboards are kinda useless already
cyan stratus
that would be even more niche than trials and that's already niche
white frost
yeah
cyan stratus
which means about -3 people would run it
white frost
perish the thought then
cyan stratus
my mult run was pretty much capped unless good luck so im done
pearl eagle
You could play Artificier 👀
cyan stratus
i assume you tried mult first because it was already routed
dont pretend you didn't try to beat my time 🙃
pearl eagle
Sorry typed wrong
cyan stratus
just press it before running and you move faster
pearl eagle
Sorry, busy crystal jumping everywhere
No time for sprinting when you're flying through the air
pearl eagle
😠
cyan stratus
i reset a run if i see it isn't a sub 2:10
slim lintel
that first crystal jump is ass, I got it first try and can't get it again
pearl eagle
The run I uploaded was the first time I got it as well
You can try jumping while blowing yourself up, but that's gonna cost you at least a second
slim lintel
I think I figured out a way to get way more distance and make it easier but you cant crit at all
yep
found an amazing setup but you have to hit 5 m1's without critting
we got no crit rng now bois
pearl eagle
I've found it rather easy to do the jumps right now, just had to place myself more to the left
But if you go farther that's going to be a whole lot better
slim lintel
def go further and faster
shoot 4x m1 on the way to crystal, once you're in the ring a bit shoot the fifth and you have a couple tick of dot to keep running, get right to the edge of the ring and jump with good timing
pearl eagle
Interesting, will try it
slim lintel
its a hassle getting all 5 fireballs to not crit tho, I guess 4 technically the 5th doesnt matter
no wait yes it does nvm
pearl eagle
The last one shouldn't matter tho, should it?
slim lintel
it does, you cant destroy the crystal with direct damage, you have to use the dot to get as far to the edge of the ring as possible while sprinting
pearl eagle
Oh yeah, I see what you do now
You do go a bit farther, so I guess you do that if none of the fireballs crit
slim lintel
I love how I can hit 4 crits in a row on a crystal and then do 2 whole boss fights with no crits
pearl eagle
Yeah, the crits really have to pull through during the boss fights
slim lintel
I hate how rng both crystal jump are this sucks
am I gonna crit and f up the first one or run in to a shitty branch on the second
pearl eagle
Getting this consistant is rather annoying
white frost
i feel like that about every trial
slim lintel
f this trial it literally is making crystal jumping unfun
pearl eagle
Is it that inconsistant for you? I'm managing quite well rn on the first crystal
slim lintel
first one is whatever but shitty branch rng is ass
slim lintel
I hate everything about the swamp level, its terrain in general is so sketchy compared to every other map.
white frost
it's grown on me
the terrain being a big part of how I easily survived my deicide fight is probably big part of it
I kind of like the gate with the crack on top you can sometimes jump over
only part I dislike is everything disappearing if you aim up while standing in the water
slim lintel
also the tele spawning on one side of that wall, and the boss spawning on the other side so you've gotta run around the whole damn thing twice just to finish the tele
slim lintel
tha prismatic trial voice channel is lit, so much activity
Been so fun talkin' with all the trial bois
pearl eagle
lol, I'm way too tired to be in a voice chat while tryharding crystal jumps
wooden ridge
@cyan stratus can you show me that thing you said you typed out for a long trial?
cyan stratus
scroll up a bit
jagged wagon
i beat him 1st try w engi since he's got that shield, but i can see how he can be a problem for others
white frost
The thing about the records is that going a little faster often let's you go a lot faster because bosses spawned and killed before the next difficulty segment will easily have 800 less hp
jagged wagon
ahh
white frost
I did it with han D and it was scary
jagged wagon
i'm kinda sad we can't see the rest of the leaderboards at the top
white frost
Don't, it's mostly hackers
jagged wagon
oh boo
cyan stratus
just finished final exams & hate my life but at least i'll have more time for trials now 🙃
slim lintel
ok how the hell did cat get level 4? I'm getting like half way through level 3 and thats with killing extra enemies
slim lintel
so the 5 fireball strat for the first jump saves like 3 seconds
but makes it where you're fast enough theres no enemies after titan to get money on so you're screwed
yeah its impossible for me to beat bunny, I can't get level 4 for the life of me and I have no idea where that much xp came from
pearl eagle
Not gonna lie my man, I have no clue how I managed to get enemy spawns for lvl 4 on my PB
In all the runs I did after I had to go for canister on the platform above teleporter
slim lintel
this trial is weird, the enemy spawns seem way more random/time based than usual
pearl eagle
Yeah, I agree. All I know is that if I go fast I might get jellyfish or wisps, and if the timer hits 50s before tp activation you get golems
But yk, 50s is a bit too slow
slim lintel
looking at your pb it looks like you hit tele at ~42s. with 5 fireball strat I can consistently get 39-40s~ sadly getting that canister probably adds 1 or 2 seconds
pearl eagle
Yeah, you're basically doing the same thing
If you find a good way to stick a good landing after crystal jump #2 you could probably save like 1-2 seconds though
Never managed to find a consistant jump where I don't go too far or hit any branches
slim lintel
got a 2:08, and I had to stop a bit and kill a few enemies to hit level4
if you dont jump after the 2nd jump through the branches arti slides and its perfect for hitting the crystal and keeping a lot of speed
jumping cancels that slide momentum tho
I've also noticed if I manage to jump the frame after the crystal explodes it cancels out all of the crystals knockback
and thats happened way too often for how precise that is
pearl eagle
That's just timing though, it's annoying but by recognising the fire ticks it usually works out
Anyways, you've got free reign of the trial as I'm done with it
wooden ridge
I mean you guys can try to RNG the MK missles for a crystal jump
slim lintel
we're not picking that up anymore new path
wooden ridge
Yea this week has been weird I can’t play that much
And this weekend I’m going camping so I can’t play the new one either
slim lintel
dont worry its probably going to be a blazing vagrant s2 and bisons s1
wooden ridge
🤢
slim lintel
holy shit
I tried jumping over the tree directly to the can and hit right on the edge of the little wall thing and it boosted me so far, had an insane time and then no enemies to get the missile launcher
wooden ridge
Lolol
pearl eagle
Damn grats man
slim lintel
now I get to bask in glory for 5 hours and 10 minutes 
pearl eagle
Best 5 hours and 10 minutes of your life
slim lintel
lmao
that run I just jumped over the tree, it puts you at like 5 hp but is way less rng and possibly a little bit faster
just have to survive titan with no hp, which wasnt that bad actually
I like how we traded, I found out about time cheesing that titan that one trial and you ended up beating me by 2 seconds then you figure out jumps this trial and I end up beating you by 2 seconds
arti gang works together
pearl eagle
Feels like that's how the PTs work tbh
That's usually how it goes with Cabbage as well
slim lintel
man those mercs must be pumpin themselves full of adderall or somethin
btw all trial bros feel free to click my name > profile > steam profile and add me. I'd like to have all the consistent players on my list so I can ignore the global list and only see the real deals
pearl eagle
Yeah, feel free to add me as well
wooden ridge
Damn you guys are even beating the hacking merc boyos
wooden ridge
I’ll try Mul T next trial
cyan stratus
added 2
slim lintel
We'll make our own leaderboard through the power of friendship
wooden ridge
Add me on steam then :v
fair warren
Question how much stages does the trials have?
cyan stratus
2
cyan stratus
@white frost how do equipment canisters work
cyan stratus
there's an equipment canister in stage 2 that's a foreign fruit before medium difficulty and a preon after medium difficulty
i didn't know they did that
slim lintel
what are the stages havent had a chance to check new trial out
cyan stratus
desert with dunestrider then 1st stage thing without the big mountain with a fiery jellyfish
white frost
I don't know how they work either I'm afraid
The other trial had an fat chest that was alien head if you're fast and fuel cell if you're slow, I didn't know they did that either
Did you happen to also have picked up a rusty key?
white frost
I could see how picking one would up change the contents of other chests
cyan stratus
p sure based on time though
white frost
Other than that maybe the game uses an extra roll on the first teleporter boss
white frost
If you clear the first stage really fast will the barrel still change contents?
cyan stratus
yes
but on the run that i waited until medium, i ran around a bit and probably grabbed a key while waiting
white frost
I don't see how grabbing a key on the same stage would do anything
cyan stratus
on s1
white frost
If barrel on s2 is different from a key on s1 I could see that happening
It's really odd that it doesn't happen to every chest
It should've skewed all the rolls
cyan stratus
OH WTF
it's a preon now ?????
lmao wait this could actually change the way trials are played
white frost
Fast with key?
slim lintel
wait keys effect whats in containers?
I always thought about playing around with them
white frost
Not necessarily containers, the other trial a fat chest changed
cyan stratus
ok wait i'm testing if everything changes
slim lintel
lmao I hit the mountain shrine hoping for anything but dunestrider, and its 2 dunestriders
cyan stratus
i did the same, don't worry
white frost
@dark saddle any thoughts on why picking up a rusty key would change the contents of just one container on the next stage?
cyan stratus
it might be all, haven't tested
slim lintel
ugh I really dont want to fight a dunestrider without a preon this boss sucks ass
white frost
Interesting
My guess is the lockbox is somehow part of the pool of intractable that the director will place out, but at a fairly low weight
Since it costs 0 it'll always get placed, but usually a bit late
In some future trial we might see the key change almost all the items
Or, we'll
cyan stratus
it might change everything except terminals
white frost
The chests didn't change locations right?
cyan stratus
i stopped checking after 1 chest, and no
slim lintel
Shit that could have changed so many trials in the past. I always thought about picking a key up to see if the lockbox was in a convenient spot but never actually tried
white frost
I think it might be possible for the rusty key to change the boss
cyan stratus
it doesn't
white frost
Not this time no
white frost
That doesn't seem so bad
white frost
Let me make it worse for you
cyan stratus
please dont?
cyan stratus
not en route so idc
white frost
Will do a minimum of quad damage
slim lintel
is the preon s1?
white frost
S2 to my understanding
zinc geyser
seems like a TAS run but idk
cyan stratus
i mean you're not wrong that it's a tas
but i'm leaning towards the tool being cheat engine
zinc geyser
i dont think a mul t could go that fast even with constant cart bashing. hmm
cyan stratus
even with what?
zinc geyser
constant use of shift
he could traverse pretty quickly in transport mode but he aint shooting shit so technically that run should be close to yoyr time but it isnt
cyan stratus
uhh
yeah if you're not using transport mode whenever it's off cooldown you're doing it wrong pretty much
i dont use at start of s2 but except for that i pretty much use whenever
i just dont see how 9sec could be shaved off my run but idk
it wasn't perfect by any means though
zinc geyser
oh well. lets hope there’s a way to actually earn prismatic trials rewards in the future with these impossibly fast runs popping up
zinc geyser
yeah true
cyan stratus
cyan stratus
pew pew
livid vine
now im still stuck in 9th cause of him and i got a new record
livid vine
seems like it
slim lintel
livid vine
you really having issues with Dunestrider?
slim lintel
no, they're just shitty to fight having to wait
livid vine
well im just saying man if you went on you could beat my 9th place
which is like 5th place if you ignore the hackers
dark saddle
@white frost Picking up a key consumes a RNG number when generating the second stage though it should only do so at the end (and thus affect the 3rd stage)
Depends when the game actually generates items, if the seeds are given to interactables after the extra RNG is consumed it may result in that
pearl eagle
@livid vine When the new trials come out I'm usually asleep, that's why I never get to really route a whole lot ^^
Also, if I remember correctly a lockbox is the very last item to be generated by the interactable director so in my head it shouldn't change anything, but I guess there is something else that the key affects in some way
slim lintel
I really wish bosses couldn't use all of their abilities at the same time
its extremely shitty and annoying
pearl eagle
I just wish dunestrider wasn't so cancer
slim lintel
thats what I was referring to
shit boss design
just it healing would be bad enough, does it really need a 75% damage reduction on top of that
pearl eagle
Yeah, I have no clue why it would get both those abilities during that move
It's literally beyond unkillable unless you are late in a normal playthrough and you're stacked with items
slim lintel
and it can shoot its stupid ass bombs out while its doing it
got a 2:26 with my first time getting to s2 so no routing
pearl eagle
Yeah, I'm exploring/routing rn
But if Cabbage has a good route with key to preon or whatever then we probably can't beat the mult
slim lintel
its hard but you can just go full on with the dunestrider and if you dont get the tether you can use flamethrower to clear all the adds and get it back up quick
jesus WHY CAN HE USE HIS DAMN BOMBS WHEN HE GOES IN TO TANK MODE
shit this might be another race the level up
wait no nvm wat
pearl eagle
This game would be better without wisps. Change my mind
slim lintel
is cabbage getting a key s1 to get the preon or the one on s2
if its the key on s2 I think arti can route it
pearl eagle
idk, only know that key on s1 turns the equipment on s2 into a preon
Doubt it will work for key on s2, but this game is full of surprises
slim lintel
where is the key s1?
I got this dunestrider down to a science now
what pause are you getting s1?
pearl eagle
Don't really check yet, started doing runs not very long ago
I also have a tendency to die to the dunestrider
slim lintel
I found a fairly consistent and fast strat but it'd be hard to explain
pearl eagle
Well let me know if you ever upload anything, because I'm about to give up on this trial
slim lintel
don't think mult it beatable
is there a consistent way to dodge his homing bullshit tarball attack? It feels like it just decided to hit you with all 3 of them at random and theres nothing you can do
wooden ridge
So how this trial treating you guys?
slim lintel
duneshitter s1 with a side helping of 10000 wisp assholes and then for dessert on s2 you get a blazing vagrant
@cyan stratus how was your 2:10 run? clean or scuffed
cyan stratus
scuffed
but not much room for improvement
btw for dunestrider if he turns he doesnt go up i think but harder to dodge bombs
those tar things, jump when hear sfx
i got my 2:10 on the 1st crit preon i got so idk how much faster it can be
tepid zephyr
Whats everyones times looking like?
cyan stratus
sub 1 huntress or bust
tepid zephyr
what
cyan stratus
what
tepid zephyr
what did you even say
cyan stratus
?
cyan stratus
less than 1 minute as huntress or bust
tepid zephyr
youre getting less than a minute
cyan stratus
no, but hackers are
tepid zephyr
oh great
cyan stratus
im all the way up here
tepid zephyr
wow
howd you get two minutes? I takes 30 secs to get to the teleporter for each level?
cyan stratus
30+30 = 1 minute
tepid zephyr
Yea, you killed both bosses in 1 minute?
tepid zephyr
How is that even possible
cyan stratus
if you go fast enough it's possible
tepid zephyr
My guy just doesnt do enough damage to kill the boss in 30 secs. I can do the first stage in 3 or 5 minutes
He just eats all my shots
cyan stratus
who are you playing as?
tepid zephyr
hunter
cyan stratus
yea there's your problem
huntress doesn't have enough single target damage to kill the bosses
maybe if you grab 2xcrit and disposable missile it's better
but even then he's just gonna heal
tepid zephyr
so is the sword guy better?
cyan stratus
i prefer the robot
tepid zephyr
hmm
cyan stratus
this clown is pretty fast too but i don't recommend it
tepid zephyr
theres a clown?
tepid zephyr
what am i looking at
tepid zephyr
i dont even know what an artificier is
fluid tree
artificier is the guy that costs 10 lunar coins
cyan stratus
he clears bosses ridiculously fast but is also rng to play because you can just kinda get 1shot by some wisp spam
also no movement abilities, so clearly inferior to mult
yea i dont feel like grinding this trial right now, i'll just upload my 2:10 and let @pearl eagle beat it
pearl eagle
Bruh, I'm not gonna go up against that dunestrider
I'm probably done with this trial
cyan stratus
dude some guy commented on my video from a trial like ages ago
and said how to beat dunestrider
and like it actually works, he's some genius or w/e
he cracked the dunestrider ai code somehow
pearl eagle
What, did he tell you not to get hit while holding M1?
pearl eagle
Doesn't work for Arti sadly
Are you making me go through all your videos to find the tip or will you inform me through discord?
cyan stratus
ok so basically
if it doesn't heal, then you can kill it without it healing
which is much faster
also when it goes up it can't do its heal attack thing
but if it's trying to turn to your position it doesn't go up
cyan stratus
?????
pearl eagle
idk man, give me an example
cyan stratus
if you go in a circle around it it gets confused and tries to turn to you
but you have to go in a very tight circle, otherwise it thinks 'good enough' and goes up anyways
but the bombs are basically not dodgeable from that range
here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POw3_Pjsim8&feature=youtu.be
make sure to like and subscribe so when i beat it by 0.5 of a second you'll be the first to know
slim lintel
Part of me really wants to tryhard and beat you, but the other part of me would rather die than play this trial anymore
livid vine
Wisp should be ban change my mind
slim lintel
hit tele, grab sodie pop, while using flamethrower run to the rock just past the sodie pop. right before he starts shooting jump on the rock then off the rock, all/most bombs will miss. Start circling clockwise and avoid the first tarball, then start moving counter clock back towards the rock. After your next flamethrower and set of M1's he will start sucking. Jump behind the rock and you should be able to jump out and m1 whatever wisps are getting sucked very easily and finish the boss off
this movement also tends to group the wisps up near the dunestrider so you can take a couple out with flamethrowers/m2's
with good RNG you can get a 1:05 pause s1
generally gets a consistent 1:10
cyan stratus
wow, trials really are dead aren't they
slim lintel
ror2 in general is pretty dead rn. Content draught
robust tendon
Drought is when there's no rain, draught is when you get beer from a keg
zenith plinth
Just waitin on the next big update
slim lintel
I hope whatever char they add is good at trials, having a 3rd option would be huge
livid vine
its slowing down but we got next month for an update
jade kettle
the Trial for today has an easy way to get both buttons for mini bosses even if you are solo
white frost
More than good at trials I just want them to be fun at trials
pearl eagle
@cyan stratus @slim lintel Yeah, so I just got double flamethrower crit on the vagrant
pearl eagle
I get AP in my run, I just assumed it was faster because it adds a ton of damage
Do you do jumps to get to teleport?
Here's the run if you want to look at it
The run itself is pretty bad though, haven't really gotten used to fighting the dunestrider yet, but the double flamethrower crit carried my time
slim lintel
nah I was doing ap rounds as well
it was a choice between getting to tele way faster or killing boss way faster
o wow I didnt know you could get the ap rounds by going around the back of that rock like that
jesus those crits on vagrant why
pearl eagle
Yeah, getting insane crits on bad runs feels sort of terrible
slim lintel
thats such a huge timesave you didnt have to hide from the explosion
pearl eagle
ik
I'm sorry 🙃
I also just realized I've been spelling Artificer wrong all this time
I'm ashamed of myself
real sundial
What is the prismatic trials?
pearl eagle
You basically try to complete the first two stages of a set seed as fast as you can while destroying at least three crystals on the map
So you have the same locations for all the items, teleporters, bosses and such and you try to route what path you want to take to try to finish the trial as fast as possible
wooden ridge
I’m back home 👀
empty rover
1% crit chance really makes the trials a nutfest
pearl eagle
Well this one is 6% for Arti, and 16% for MUL-T
wooden ridge
@cyan stratus I watched ur YouTube vid. What was the purpose of the rusty key?
pearl eagle
The key somehow changes the contents of the chests in s2 I believe
That turns a fruit into the preon he picks up
pearl eagle
Apparently
Lockboxes is literally the last thing to be spawned so it makes no sense for me why it would do that
wooden ridge
Oh I k ow why it changes
It forces the spawn of a lockbox thus forcing all seeded chests to change
It’s probably got to do with however the chest credit system works
pearl eagle
It shouldn't though. The scene director that controls the spawns spawns everything first, then at the very end during its "cleanup" phase it spawns the lockbox
It probably shifts an rng seed or something
Shouldn't affect credits