prismatic-trials

[cyan stratus]

sounds like a waste of time

[wooden ridge]

im just curouis

what time did you finnish s1

[cyan stratus]

uhh 1:45

[wooden ridge]

hm

[cyan stratus]

but i just did another run and finished 1:35

[wooden ridge]

wahh

[cyan stratus]

would've gotten about 2:35 but the overloading wisp went to narnia

might upload because it was funny

[wooden ridge]

what route on s2?

[cyan stratus]

i kill 3 crystals and then the wisps

[wooden ridge]

ocular?

[cyan stratus]

also grab a hud along the way

dude idk how to play merc i play mult, im just having fun with a different character

[wooden ridge]

im confused cuase like ive been min maxing my route so urs must be different

[cyan stratus]

you should already know the best merc route (^:

[wooden ridge]

i just started doing this weekend

prismatic

[cyan stratus]

oh i see

[wooden ridge]

after 150 hours in main game i was like "hey i should speed run"

[cyan stratus]

basically the best routes are grab nothing except for items that are on the route

oh wtf 150hour'

[wooden ridge]

ye

[cyan stratus]

i played like 10 hours max of the base game

[wooden ridge]

is there a newt alter?

[coral iron]

Newt Altars are in fixed locations in each map

So most probably yes

Can’t remember if they do anything though.

[cyan stratus]

you feed it a coin and it opens a portal

[wooden ridge]

I didn’t see any in this trial

Cabbage wtf is your route. I’m baffled that it can be ruduced so much

[coral iron]

I mean in the trials

I tried doing in the grasslands on the last seed because I wanted to buy the artificer and nothing happened :^)

[cyan stratus]

idk dude i just kinda kill the stuff

btw if you use the dash ability thing on the wisp it goes to narnia

[coral iron]

Kill it faster 4head

Yeah that’s annoying. Gotta hit it from above first.

[cyan stratus]

got a 2:42

i tried a different strat on stage 1 though that did nothing except waste like 3sec

[wooden ridge]

wtf are you doing on stage 2

[cyan stratus]

i grab hud and kill 3 crystals and then also the wisps

if you dont kill the wisps it's hard to enter the teleporter

[coral iron]

Is HUD really worth it?

Feel like the extra 15-20 seconds out of the way isn’t worth the very short lived damage boost.

[cyan stratus]

if you spend 15-20 seconds getting the hud you're doing something very wrong

whats your time?

[coral iron]

But what about m o n e y

[cyan stratus]

just grab 3 gold from s1

[coral iron]

3:44:06(?)

S1?

[cyan stratus]

stage 1

[coral iron]

Haha yes

[cyan stratus]

if you want i can upload a 2:42 but its not even that good

idk how to play merc very well in terms of movement

[coral iron]

I’m good, but thanks.

Trying to find a character other than merc and engie who won’t die to blazing wisps

[cyan stratus]

i got 2:11 with mult

[coral iron]

How do dodge greater wisps shots

[solar void]

there is a capsul at the end of stage one

[cyan stratus]

if the projectile doesn't hit you you don't take damage

[solar void]

just need to hit it right as you get tpd out

[coral iron]

Legit, I struggle with not getting hit by them because they have such a huge blast radius.

[wooden ridge]

upload it i wanna see what ur doing

[cyan stratus]

nah, grab the capsule before fighting the boss

that way you get lv4 either before or during the wisp fight

[wooden ridge]

wait

[solar void]

lvl4?

[wooden ridge]

bruhhhh

[solar void]

that gets me lvl2...

[wooden ridge]

thats prob why

[cyan stratus]

wtf are u doing

[coral iron]

exdee

[solar void]

wtf are you doing

[wooden ridge]

grabbing capsule at end of tp

[cyan stratus]

you need lv3 or 4

just kill a lemurian or 2 for the gold

[wooden ridge]

hm

ok will try]

[cyan stratus]

is this prismatic trial 16 of 17

or 17*

nvm its 16

[wooden ridge]

how many capsules are you getting? becuase im not hitting level 4

[coral iron]

Different route probably.

[cyan stratus]

just the 1 capsule

[wooden ridge]

i did just improve my time ill say that

how tf you hitting level 4 🤔

[coral iron]

Has anyone considered taking the crowd funder on that hill with the two crystals, or is that not good in terms of damage to cost/time.

[wooden ridge]

im only getting mid 3

[solar void]

i didnt even know there was one there lol

[coral iron]

#themoreyouknow

Also I like how every chest either has a slug or a rusty key

Very nice and cool™

[wooden ridge]

Ight I give up idk wtf ur doing cabbage but ur a god

[cyan stratus]

i can upload if u want

[wooden ridge]

Plez

[wooden vortex]

if ur going for the shots i think you're going for cabbage

i feel bad for you

i understand the "miss the 3rd one" now i think lol

[wooden ridge]

@cyan stratus 🤔

[cyan stratus]

dude my internet sucks what do you want

i'll have it uploaded in a week or so

and the snipes aren't that hard, it's just that there's one 180 where the camera is going up and down and feels like rng sometimes

but im like 90% consistent

[wooden ridge]

I’m sworry 😢

[cyan stratus]

but if i can get 2:42 on like my 8th run you can do better

i usually only play mult

[wooden ridge]

That’s why I’m massively confused. Like Idk wtf your doing

[cyan stratus]

someone go beat my mult time so i have a reason to get a better time and record it

[solar void]

i keep losing a wisp to the great beyond

😦

[cyan stratus]

yea using dash is risky

could've had like a 2:35 or so for 1 run but the blue wisp decided to go sightseeing

[solar void]

ill share mine for fun even though its bad, maybe you will see somethin

i wanted to get #1 first but i lose 1 too many wisps for today

https://youtu.be/c2mKQmlQxJA

[cyan stratus]

https://youtu.be/u67DLLMr9ZQ

[solar void]

probably going to steal your whole floor 2 cause its objectivly better than mine

idk if your 10 sec time save compared to my floor 1 is worth 2 gunner droids and crit glasses

but i need to kill enough trash to hit 3 then...

[wooden ridge]

i think i can get a faster time than thaty

[solar void]

ocular lasts half the 2nd boss fight

and none of the first boss

yeah... your right... im a fool

and crit glasses give 10% chance to kill crystals with evecerate

[white frost]

I think that makes commando the only survivor you haven't upstaged anyone with yet

the scenario of some commando mains going for prismatic trials seems pretty low

[solar void]

im changing mains

so i can be a winner

[cyan stratus]

@slim lintel where's arti

[solar void]

lol i labeled vid 4:17 instead of 3:17

[cyan stratus]

oh

[willow pivot]

I got a 3:38.78 with arti

[cyan stratus]

when i get home i try faster

[coral iron]

I swear to god you’re the one who knocked me down one flaming

I can’t forgive you for that

🗡

[wooden ridge]

yeeeeee i got 2:41 LETS GO

fucking MonkaS

[slim lintel]

I already said I'm not bothering with this trial

[wooden ridge]

weak

[pearl eagle]

Respectable

[wooden ridge]

i do see an arti with a 2:52.87 time

[slim lintel]

arti peaks at around 2:30 this trial I believe

maybe 2:25

[wooden ridge]

i dont see any

the best time i see rn is 2:52

for arti

the true leaderboard

[livid vine]

any trial with elite trash mobs as bosses is fucking gay

[solar void]

grumpy arti main stays to brand, i like it

[slim lintel]

they can actually be good for us as long as they're not flying assholes that just 1shot us

but in general boss mobs need a major rebalance

[white frost]

even some of those below cabbage are going to be hacks

[wooden ridge]

honestly they arnt that bad. my issue rn is how they get fucking whiplashed to the other fucking end of the galaxy when i dash

[white frost]

I'll believe 2:16 on huntress when i see it

[wooden ridge]

true, there may be some shitty hackers

[slim lintel]

I'm gonna go for a decent clear, I can at least be top arti even if I cant touch mult this trial

[wooden ridge]

imagine hacking and still not get a better time than a Mul-T

[slim lintel]

imagine hacking in general, how pathetic you must be

[cyan stratus]

im a hacker

[wooden ridge]

cabbage confirmed hacker

lets cross our fingers for easy anti cheat for prismatic soon

[livid vine]

i don't see why they haven't implement anti cheat yet

[wooden ridge]

🤷

[slim lintel]

We'll never get an anti cheat dont even get your hopes up

[wooden ridge]

sob

[wooden vortex]

Feelsbadman

[slim lintel]

ok nvm maybe Im not getting a clear I forgot how horseshit these wisps are for the shittiest character

[wooden ridge]

[slim lintel]

let's give a character with no mobility a skill the lessens their mobility and has melee range

10/10 game design

[livid vine]

whoa there calm down

[neon parcel]

How does these trials work

Just try and get the fastest time?

[slim lintel]

pick mult and just get free wins because its a functioning character

[wooden ridge]

@neon parcel Basically it’s a 2 stage RoR2 run with some modified rules. The goal is to get the fastest time. There is a global leaderboard for the times. (Though hackers fill the top)

[wooden vortex]

Wish there was some kind of serverside validation of times

But that might make games laggy because they wouldn't be locally hosted anymore

[slim lintel]

there 2:25 is possible but f this trial I'm done

[cyan stratus]

that time looks scuffed

[slim lintel]

arti is shit this trial flat out

feel free to beat it if you feel that way I don't give a shit

[cyan stratus]

i already beat it

[coral iron]

How in God’s name are you getting sub 3 minutes

[slim lintel]

ignore all items (except tele item) and go fast

[coral iron]

I’ve tried every angle under the sun and every route requires me to go way out of the way for at least one crystal.

I’ve either done a wrap around of the first two up the hill and grabbed the one on the shelf before running to the first tele, or gotten the two on the island and launched myself into the void so that I could respawn on the main land and snipe the one on the shelf.

Either way, I’m baffled by how one could do that any faster.

[slim lintel]

I do the wrap around its fastest for arti

[coral iron]

Agreed. Tried the island launch-off and it doesn’t work too well on her.

[slim lintel]

are you crystal jumping to the "shelf crystal" with the 2nd crystal

[coral iron]

Trying to, I can only make it about half way up the hill though.

Unless I’m doing something very wrong.

[slim lintel]

hit it with 3 m1's, when you get close the the edge of the ring start charging an M2 and sprint. After you pass the crystal aim straight down and let go of M2 you'll get an amazing launch

[coral iron]

Huh. I guess the knockback from M2 stacks with the crystal?

[slim lintel]

yep a little

also you are sprinting while you do it which helps

[coral iron]

Neato, did not know that.

But yeah, there’s no hidden tricks like with rocket jumping? I.e., don’t hold W down as you jump, etc..

I can be dense sometimes

[slim lintel]

nah, crystal jumping is pretty straight forward other than a few random trials here and there make use of a few setups

[coral iron]

Thanks again for the help, by the way. I appreciate the feedback/explanations.

Gotcha 👍🏼

[slim lintel]

I'd make a vid of my route for you but I'm slightly angry at this trial

[coral iron]

Nah, you’re good lol

Last one had a similar ending but it wasn’t as bad because preon accumulator

[slim lintel]

You do know about charging M2's and sprinting right?

[coral iron]

Yeah, I figured that out when I started last week’s trial.

Pretty neat that you can do that with like every charging attack.

[white frost]

Arty can sprint during flame bolts as well

[slim lintel]

same goes for your M1's. If you sprint after the first one you will sprint through the last 3 as long as you hold the button down

[white frost]

and sprinting instantly deploys snapfreeze

[coral iron]

mind blown

[white frost]

basically slowmando is the only class that can't sprint while attacking

[cyan stratus]

yea you can

[white frost]

oh and I guess MUL-T

[slim lintel]

you can you just have to spam sprint like a mofo

[coral iron]

Mash that CTRL key

[cyan stratus]

wait really?

[coral iron]

^

[white frost]

yeah, but for nailgun you can't sprint

[cyan stratus]

til

[slim lintel]

yeah nailgun you cant

[cyan stratus]

have you ever played mult

[slim lintel]

setup a rapidfire macro

[coral iron]

Galaxy Brain Meme

[white frost]

feels like it interrupts your nailgun a bit

[coral iron]

Just use it as a burstfire gun. EZ fix

[slim lintel]

make the perfect macro that sprint just long enough so you get the 6 nail burst over and over

and dont forget to cap your fps at 30

[coral iron]

🤔

[cyan stratus]

🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀

[slim lintel]

lol, there was one trial which felt like you could make something happen quicker if you limited your fps.

[coral iron]

I can hear that message

Also that’s wack

[slim lintel]

dont know if it was placebo or real

[coral iron]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Guess we’ll never know.

[cyan stratus]

it was 100% real

34.6 uncap 33.6 cap

[slim lintel]

I'm the idiot that thought of even trying it

[coral iron]

LUL

[cyan stratus]

gotem

[slim lintel]

what have you contributed to these trials cabbage? Nothing but boring mult runs

I'll be the first to tell you I'm an idiot

[cyan stratus]

wtf have you even seen my merc run

[slim lintel]

its no new news

[cyan stratus]

i also play some huntress to spice it up sometimes

[coral iron]

who’s been more helpful than you cabbage

Just play Commando

He’s everything in one

[slim lintel]

I'll play around with commando runs when we get char leaderboards

[cyan stratus]

listen mate i always upload my runs and people get similar times to me

now i haven't uploaded my run and fastest is like 20sec behind

so i think i've been pretty helpful (^:

[coral iron]

Have fun being lonely at the top :kappa:

[slim lintel]

yeah uploading runs kinda shoots you in the foot. Like cat beating me after I showed the strat to get to titan before he levels

[coral iron]

^

Yeah, I can get that.

Pffffffffff

[cyan stratus]

ᶜᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵃ ˡᵉᵉᶜʰ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿˡʸ ᵍᵉᵗˢ ᵍᵒᵒᵈ ʳᵘⁿˢ ᵇʸ ᶜᵒᵖʸᶦⁿᵍ ᵒᵗʰᵉʳ ᵖᵉᵒᵖˡᵉ'ˢ ˢᵗʳᵃᵗˢ

[slim lintel]

rood

in most speedrunning communities its considered a dick move to keep strats to yourself

[cyan stratus]

yea that's why i always upload

but i dont like my 2:11

it would be an embarassment to the usual high quality standard of my channel

[slim lintel]

by this time next year you're gonna be the next pewdiepie

[coral iron]

Not too hard with youtubers annihilating themselves left and right these days OMEGALUL

[cyan stratus]

i mean i dont like to brag but i've been averaging 1 subscriber per new video i upload

so by prismatic trial 50 i'm doing a 50 sub special

[coral iron]

Yeah, I feel like trials like this it’s okay to keep the strats to yourself.

[slim lintel]

tfw all my twitch clips get 100's of views for trials and I gain no followers

[coral iron]

Do it brother

Haha loser

Aight, sleep time. Gotta prep for EZ finals tomorrow.

Thanks again for the help lads < 3

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-iexG-6WVs&feature=youtu.be

leaked mul-t strat i use for ez world record

[slim lintel]

awful video unsubscribed

[cyan stratus]

wtF

[slim lintel]

oh wait I never was subbed

[cyan stratus]

you're just jealous arti can't use that strat

[slim lintel]

I'm just jealous your character can function in all of the games mechanics properly

[livid vine]

i would think Trials will get a major rework soon

[slim lintel]

they wont, at most we can expect modifiers other than 50 starting gold and random stage order

[livid vine]

it just seems like there is still elements of random shit that shouldn't be in a gamemode like this

[slim lintel]

the 50 starting gold thing doesnt even effect the trial 99% of the time

I guess it makes it a abit easier to hit lvl 4 stage 2

[white frost]

every 2 out of 3 trials will have a modifier that turns every enemy into greater blazing wisps

chests will also be greater blazing wisps

[slim lintel]

thats when uninstall the game

[livid vine]

see thats when i just say fuck trials, im not gonna expect random encounters like that

Randomness + Competitive Game Mode= not fun

which is why i feel like Trials needs a major rework

[slim lintel]

mob bosses will go away when all the bosses are in the game. So next year trials will be great 👌

[livid vine]

i hope so

there is still the randomness of trash mob spawns and random boss mechanics not going in order

[white frost]

the trash mob spawns are just random in location, though

I guess that kinda matters a lot for damage boosting

[livid vine]

i mean when 100 small wisp are fucking me up more then the boss itself thats an issue in my book

like trash mobs are just annoying

[white frost]

wether a wisp spawns or not is not randoml

every player on the same pace will deal with the same amount of wisps

[slim lintel]

its more of an arti problem than trials problem.

especially when its a boss like a vagrant you cant hide behind to block the wisp shots

[white frost]

I thought a bit about the "flamethrower ignite is bad because randomness is in the kit"

[livid vine]

i mean the goal is to kill the boss to get to the next stage, people are not gonna waste time dealing with trash mobs

[white frost]

and most survivors have randomness in their kit

usually in the form of bullet spread

[slim lintel]

only other randomness that effects dps I can think of is huntress' glaive

shot spread doesnt matter in trials as you just slide up the bosses asss

[white frost]

yeah pretty much

[slim lintel]

(and the boss models are huge)

[white frost]

it's going to count when all you have to aim for is a vagrant tentacle with MUL-T

[slim lintel]

I-I dont see that ever being a thing

[livid vine]

bullet spread is not an issue

[white frost]

didn't that happen like four trials ago when both bosses were vagrant

[slim lintel]

unless the asshole spawns out of the ring

[white frost]

if you aim for his body your damage will suffer due to range dropoff

tentacle is more damage

[slim lintel]

I mean a few trials ago had a vagrant you couldnt even flamethrower properly because it was too high

so there goes all your dps

[white frost]

yeah there ya go

for MUL-T his spread would matter a lot, and that's up to RNGesus

[slim lintel]

damage falloff is still less of a hit than your dot being shit sometimes and not even being able to hit it 50% of the time

[livid vine]

i would ask Cabbage about that issue

i don't really care about Mul-t

[slim lintel]

^

[white frost]

damage falloff is literally 50%

[slim lintel]

I've never noticed damage falloff on mult. At most it drops by like 1 damage per shot from what I've seen and while that adds up its not that crazy

[white frost]

there is, but it looks less sharp than I thought it'd be

like he keeps most of the damage for a large part of his range

if you hit something at the very edge of the range it's half damage

hard to notice in trials because the damage display rounds off

in that trial cabbage was alternating between 5 and 6 damage

means his shots were somewhere around 5.5, most of the time jus tslightly above it

those numbers should be showing 7

11 * 60% = 6.6

[livid vine]

if damage is random for every survivor that sounds kinda shitty

[white frost]

it's only a 15% ish loss in that case

the damage isn't random, the spread is

if the bullet travels a shorter amount it does more damage

but the variation is rather small, and flamethrower ignite is no different

[slim lintel]

at least in most cases you can do something about it. In arti's case its just flat out rng IF you can even hit said thing

[livid vine]

i tried reaching mod mail about the RNG in Flamethrower but it ignored me

[white frost]

you get 21 ticks with a 50% chance of ignite on each, and that's going to even out, especially considering a boss fight probably has at least two flamethrower during its course

[slim lintel]

"- Extra Extra Note: We're not the Developers, so keep game-related questions out of ModMail"

[white frost]

and yeah as mentioned Glaive can be RNG as well because it depends on where enemies spawn and decide to go

[livid vine]

its just kinda annoying why they made Arti Flamethrower RNG

[white frost]

that's a much bigger diff than the ignites could ever deviate

[slim lintel]

in this specific scenario which is one of the very few where any of this matters though, mult can still hit consistent damage on the boss where arti you could only hit it at all if its tentacle was in a specific place and you jumped. Flamethrower is a poorly designed ability for what this game throws at you

Unless you have a hopoo feather to flamethower a wisp you have to literally stand under it making it shoot the ground and it will always at least splash you

also the flamethrower RNG really comes through on beetle queens and titans. Sometimes you have to sit there waiting for a couple extra M1's to finish it off that takes many seconds

[livid vine]

i mean don't expect skill changes until Skills 2.0

[slim lintel]

skills 2.0: Mult now shoots rebars and nail gun at the same time. Artifcer: Now only has 1 charge of M1, M2 has shot spread, flamethrower reduced range and halves your movement speed, snapfreeze 50% chance ice pillars don't spawn

[livid vine]

lmao jesus

[cosmic stirrup]

seems fair

[white frost]

Removed damage dropoff from commando: Shots now always deal minimum damage

Adressed complaints towards phase round and tactical roll: Both skills removed

[slim lintel]

I really hope when skills 2.0 comes they put meme patch notes like this before the real ones

[toxic niche]

#BuffHuntress

[slim lintel]

#butthuntress

[frozen prairie]

But huntress is already strong.

vs two mobs/bosses

[sonic smelt]

Damn right behind Swaggycunt69

[wooden ridge]

13 mins

[sonic smelt]

It's my first trial

I didn't know I had to go fast

[wooden ridge]

Ah ok. Keep practicing 💪

Maybe cabbage could be beaten one day

[wooden vortex]

lmao

maybe one day

[sonic smelt]

I'm guessing cabbage is the top pris trial guy?

[wooden ridge]

Yea he’s really good.

Sadly he’s not first cause all the hackers

But he’s first on “legit” terms

[wooden vortex]

if i could only be 10 seconds faster

feelsbadman

[wooden ridge]

Too slow noob

[wooden vortex]

: (((

[wooden ridge]

It’s ok your probably faster then me. Since merc is slow boi

[sonic smelt]

Don't worry everybody is first in my heart

[wooden ridge]

Rn I have a 2:41.7 mercenary

[wooden vortex]

thats pretty fast for merc actually

[wooden ridge]

zoom

[wooden vortex]

i think i have 2nd or 3rd fastest time on mul-t tho

its a 2:20.something

[wooden ridge]

Is there any trial where Mul-T dosnt have the fastest time

[wooden vortex]

uhhhh

[wooden ridge]

He’s seems to dominate them all

[wooden vortex]

i have yet to see one where he isnt at least viable

there was one a few weeks ago that most people did arti on but idk

[wooden ridge]

I wait patiently in the corner for a merc dominated trial

[wooden vortex]

would need to be a small route with no long range snipes

unlikely but possible

[wooden ridge]

Or a solid newt alter run with tincture in shop.

[livid vine]

once hackers are gone from Trials its gonna be alot more fair

[wooden vortex]

cant wait lol

[livid vine]

as far as i know Cabbage is the only Mul-T main who destroys every trial

i haven't really seen any other Mul-t main beat him

[wooden vortex]

im starting to get close but i've only been running the previous 5 trials

[livid vine]

the best Arti players are either iforgotwho and Cat The Bunny

and Arti is rather difficult in Trials

Survivor specific leaderboards would be nice

[wooden ridge]

^^

I feel like a lot of good players are over- shadowed by hackers and meta characters.

[livid vine]

hackers can be solved, meta characters is a very specific issue

[wooden ridge]

That’s why specific leaderboards will definitely help

It can theoretically rid of the entire premise of meta characters.

[wooden vortex]

i'd love to try runs on some other characters but theres no real incentive to play anything but mul-t right now lol

[wooden ridge]

Idk I feel like personal success for me is what drives me. Like that’s why I exculusively stick to merc. Try to get fastest time

[wooden vortex]

yeah

i also really like the whole route planning aspect too

and that just gets better when you can run with all characters instead of 1-2

[wooden ridge]

What I noticed is that routes can be drastically different for each character and they all have unique mechanics to practice. Which is very cool.

Like a lot of people may not know this but as merc you can get a triple dash off of one enemy by holding m1 and hitting the dash from the right distance.

Or using dash at the end of a crystal to kill it and dash from it.

Or using evisorate to latch onto a crystal from a far distance or from hard corners.

Using m2 on slopes to launch upward which may get you to a better/faster position

Small shit like that

And like every character has unique specifics mechanics like this.

[wooden vortex]

thats my favorite part about the runs

trying all the routes i can think of with all the characters

[river beacon]

This guy has sick strats https://youtu.be/RVNvNvdT2Oo

[wooden ridge]

Every time I try to record something goes to shit :v

[wooden vortex]

haha

i just leave OBS on for hours in case something worthwhile happens

[white frost]

Cat isn't really an Arti main, he picks whichever survivor is faster for the trial

usually grinds them to world record, too

[pearl eagle]

Haven't had a lot of time recently, so I just hop on Arti because that's the most fun character imo in trials

So that's why if I ever see Cabbage use his filthy MUL-T emote, I'm fonna respond with

[wooden ridge]

[slim lintel]

🥚

[lavish hound]

I was like "what the heck are prismatic trials" and then I googled it and found out that it's in the friking menu lol

[slim lintel]

Man PT really needs a better explanation/more noticeable. Games been out over a month and we still get people that have no clue what it is in here almost every day

[lavish hound]

true lol

[wooden ridge]

We need more speed runners. Let’s make a super active community.

[livid vine]

Trials would need alot of changes then

need to get rid of as much of the RNG as possible

while also certain mechanics need to be fair

cause im not gonna fight no fucking elite bison again

[wooden ridge]

I mean

RNG is pretty low tbh

Boss difficulty is more of a “git gud” statement than anything

[livid vine]

im not talking about bosses

and also bosses shouldn't be trash mobs, shit is not fun

[wooden ridge]

I mean I like the variety

I think elite hordes are fine

[livid vine]

naw

[wooden ridge]

Ye

[livid vine]

its bad enough i gotta deal with trash mobs, fighting even more trash mobs as bosses is shit

[wooden ridge]

It’s part of the game 🤷‍♀️

[cyan stratus]

i want 4 stage prismatic trial with increasing difficulty so that you have to route items and maybe even grinding in the route instead of just rushing portal, that lasts longer than 3 days so that there's plenty of time to make routes and w/e

[wooden ridge]

Yes please I would love this

[livid vine]

i wouldn't mind if it was a straight up Boss Rush

[wooden ridge]

And a newt alter every level so it adds more variety

[cyan stratus]

yea i love incentivizing people to edit their save file for coins

[livid vine]

lmao

[wooden ridge]

Hm

How about make them free but you still have to hit the alter

[cyan stratus]

^

[wooden ridge]

Or they give you (x) amount of coins each run

So you can’t just buy everything

So like let’s say they give you (10)? Coins each run, it’s up to you on how to spend them in your route.

[livid vine]

meh i kinda don't want lunar items to affect Trials

they are more for normal runs

[wooden ridge]

I mean it’s cool how time dosnt stop their in trials do it’s up tot he player of its worth it for a faster time.

Also the stage after differs when going to bazaar

So it adds that’s much more variety

I think it’s really cool

[livid vine]

i would much rather have a Boss Rush type Trials, every boss you beat you choose 1 of 3 items per boss and have to beat the bosses as quick as possible

[wooden ridge]

Nah, but I guess we can agree to disagree

I mean I currently like the current set up.

[livid vine]

i just feel like boss rush would be alot more fun and balanced

would also get rid of the most amount of rng

[slim lintel]

a boss rush would be boring. its basically a pt but without the crystals and shiz

the fun part of trials imo is the routing to the tele. everything after you hit the tele is boring

[livid vine]

so something like Platforming?

and tbh half of the trials really is beating the boss, so i figured focusing on that while improving the formula would lead to a fun and balanced mode

[slim lintel]

tbh I want trials to be randomly generated stages in the style of the place with the obelisk, but maybe more crystaly. Would make them more unique and would separate it from the normal game more giving it more identity

That would be a lot of work to make a system like that tho so never gonna happen

[livid vine]

tbh i just want trash mobs to not get in the way of my run, there is no reason to kill them since you are on a timer and you don't pick up that many items in general, the way the meta is in Trials makes trash mobs a pain

[slim lintel]

idk what you got against trash mobs so much, they're really not that bad 90% of the time.

[livid vine]

they are just annoying and there is no reason to kill them when you gotta race the timer

if it was a normal game then yea kill them, but since you gotta reach from point A to B with the least amount of times its just a hassle

[slim lintel]

it is a trial

also mobs are useful as you can use them to help level up for stage2

[livid vine]

im not gonna waste time killing mobs when i have to go as fast as possible, i get it its a trial but the way this trial works makes mobs not worth it

if the trial gave me a reason to kill mobs i would do it but at this point in the game there is no reason to

"Go and destroy crystals while traveling to the TP, Activate Tele, Kill Boss quickly, Use Tele, rinse and repeat"

thats trials in a nut shell

[lavish hound]

I just did the trial, managed to kill the greater wisps, flew down to teleporter and then died with -1 hp

[livid vine]

yikes

[wooden ridge]

Oof

Also I like trash mobs because with mercinary it actually allows me to be faster with dash chains

[lavish hound]

I'm almost in the top 500 with my first run, yay

love the name of place 528 lol

[wooden ridge]

Good job 👏

[median garden]

artificer lmao

[lavish hound]

why not lol

tried mul-tand had no way to kill greater wisps lol

[slim lintel]

mult gets around 2min this trial arti peaks at around 2:25

[lavish hound]

yeah, but I guess for me arti is just way easier

[wooden ridge]

I want to get sub 2:40 on merc. I think it’s possible

[lavish hound]

good luck lol

[wooden ridge]

Rn I have 2:41.7 👀

[lavish hound]

nice mate

[slim lintel]

one day I'll learn how to be a pro enough gamer to get sub 1min on commando every trial like the big boys up on top of the leaderboard

[wooden ridge]

[empty rover]

Hey how do you check the #1 spot on the leaderboards?

Gross

[cyan stratus]

hey who said normal enemies shouldn't be in trials because they were useless

because you're wrong

[bleak topaz]

if normal enemies weren't in trials how tf would huntress be viable

[wooden ridge]

Like I said I like the layout of current trials. Not much to change imo

But I do suggest making lunar things free in trials.

[empty rover]

Or just not have them

Either or

[wooden ridge]

Yea but I’d really like to keep them because they do add a cool dynamic to routes

https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901472339525644/577586001783029761

https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901472339525644/577566123437064204

https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901472339525644/576771410463162378

https://discordapp.com/channels/417739215355510784/559901472339525644/576782136456118292

[mossy spruce]

@wooden ridge What rank is your 2:40 merc?

Also, did you have the blazing wisps for the second boss?

[wooden ridge]

Yea I had blazing

Also idk what rank I am

[wooden ridge]

Why?

[mossy spruce]

Just trying to get an idea for what ranks what times are at

Also I must suck at merc but can't fight blazing elites to save my life as him

[wooden ridge]

Ranks are scuffed cause hackers fill the top

[mossy spruce]

I know, still just curious

[wooden ridge]

Last I checked I was rank 60ish?

I think I have the best merc time tho

[fallow ice]

Im so good im not on the leader board

[wooden ridge]

[verbal hamlet]

200 IQ

[cyan stratus]

im sad

how about you guys

[wooden ridge]

A little bit, why are you?

[cyan stratus]

because i lost about 2 seconds to my gunner turret shooting a beetle

[verbal hamlet]

unfortunate

[cyan stratus]

yea that's what i thought too

i would've gotten sub 2:10

[wooden ridge]

I don’t understand?

Gunner turrets bad?

[cyan stratus]

yea

[wooden ridge]

WHAT

[cyan stratus]

since if you kill stuff while teleporting it delays it

[verbal hamlet]

ah

that's a feelsbadman

[primal swallow]

just block the turret shots

[verbal hamlet]

can you with gunner?

[cyan stratus]

hard to block a 90 degree angle

[wooden ridge]

So ur telling me this whole time that getting my gunner turret is not worth 🤔

[verbal hamlet]

I know you can with engi but with gunner?

[cyan stratus]

when you dont know where the turret is gonna shoot and beetles die really quickly

turret is worth definitely

[wooden ridge]

I usually grab a gunner drone too

[cyan stratus]

idk why you would do that

[wooden ridge]

It’s on the way and I have money 🤔

[cyan stratus]

no lv4 for you

[wooden ridge]

Is that why I’m not getting level 4 oof

Now I understand

This is why your good at prismatic you have all the knowledge 🤔

[cyan stratus]

yea well you beat my merc time pretty quickly

im not that good at the game im just good at routing

[wooden ridge]

With a gunner drone 🤔

[cyan stratus]

that's why as soon as i post my videos people get faster times

[wooden ridge]

So maybe if I don’t use a gunner drone

I can get sub 2:40

[cyan stratus]

idk what you do

what did i do wrong btw, you improved my time really quickly so i assume i just dont know how to play merc

[wooden ridge]

Oh I just min max mechanics based on the route

Like knowing how to dash mobs and evisorate timing etc

And I even went out of my way like a second or 2 to pick up a gunner drone. Thinking that it helps me kill the boss faster tbh lol

But maybe getting level 4 will definitely do the trick

[cyan stratus]

@slim lintel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4h8RQF1Z3M&feature=youtu.be

[primal swallow]

lit

[mossy spruce]

Impressive run! Why does it say Artificer in the link?

[cyan stratus]

?? it says mult

[mossy spruce]

Maybe just a Discord bug lol

[cyan stratus]

yea that's a bug

sometimes it adds an inferior character to the title

[mossy spruce]

"inferior character"
😲

Its crazy how quick the times can be in the top ranks though, despite hackers. I'm just glad I got top 100

[wooden ridge]

@cyan stratus what was the purpose of the combat shrine?

[pearl eagle]

So, is MUL-T or Artificier king in this one?

[cyan stratus]

read the description @wooden ridge

it's to seed wisp drift rng

and mul-t is always best

[wooden ridge]

Doesn’t it give them more health?

If not then I might start hitting it then

[pearl eagle]

Yeah, Artificer doesn't even come close to beating MUL-T in this trial

MUL-T mobility simply too good when Arti doesn't get any crystal jumps 😦

[verbal hamlet]

Not to mention MUL-T can sprint while shooting and not lose sprint
*Only works with rebar, and you have to initiate the charge for the rebar before you can begin sprinting

[pearl eagle]

I mean, Arti can do that aswell on all attacks except flamethrower

But Arti doesn't have the insane range, so also have to take one hell of a detour to get a third crystal on s1

@slim lintel Here's something to strive for if you care

[slim lintel]

yeahno I'm done with this trial

[verbal hamlet]

oouf

[slim lintel]

wait what are you doing in s1? I take no detours

[pearl eagle]

I go around the right side and do a crystal jump

Was thinking with the MUL-T route from cabbage

He snipes one of the crystals on the other island

[slim lintel]

o thats what I do. Judging by how close our times are we probably did the same thing you just hit tele faster

[zenith plinth]

whats considered top 1-%

10%

[wooden vortex]

when you are above 90% of players

[grave forum]

Maths

[wooden ridge]

I mean we can’t scroll and the top of the board is scuffed because we don’t know what’s legit or not.

So like idk how we can determine top 10% lol

[river beacon]

Any time below 4 min is probably 10%

[wooden ridge]

True

[river beacon]

Im true commando main

[slim lintel]

Morally responsible cabbage

is that cabbages arti alt lmao

[river beacon]

that would be a bad ttime for him

[slim lintel]

wait can we make multiple profiles in game and run a different character on each profile

[river beacon]

no, but there is a way

[slim lintel]

I mean he's a mult main playing arti what do you expect

[river beacon]

to have multiple accounts

you just have to make alt steam account and add it to family

[slim lintel]

He had no friends to give his free copy to so he gave it to himself

[river beacon]

and then share games

[slim lintel]

Imma try commando that time seems really good for commando

[river beacon]

dont, it is cancer

[slim lintel]

I know it is

jesus his damage is so bad lmao

[river beacon]

And it only gets worse in late game

cause his procs and attack speed scaling is shit

[cyan stratus]

its immoral to play arti

[white frost]

Cabbage and iforgot would you feel particularly offended if I did prismatics with bandit

Actually would anyone here

[slim lintel]

I don't care

[white frost]

I didn't figure you would

He's pretty awful BTW

[slim lintel]

Ok I give up commando is too ass

I hate how his M2 randomly shoots 100 miles away from where you were aiming

"Hey guys this attack can go through floors/walls but if you aim it at the floor or wall it randomly shoots 7 ft above your crosshair"

[white frost]

Oof

Effective use of commando means using him at melee range, too

A level 1 commando needs 50 seconds to kill the first boss if you're at long range

[cyan stratus]

do w/e you want

[slim lintel]

It's really weird how aggressive the damage falloff is on him

They need to tone it way down or at least make him more accurate

[white frost]

It's pretty harsh, yeah

I've done the quick maffs and nailguns's falloff takes a lot of range to kick in with any significance

That reduced damage on vagrant? Vagrant has armour that accounts for almost all of it

[white frost]

wait, nano-bomb has a max range?

fireballs too?

is this new?

I recognize some of these names

figured I'd get a legit time that there'd be no way I could beat with bandit just so it'd never show up online

doesn't really matter when trial's done in like 6 hours

just surviving those wisps is tough, man

even with MUL-T I had to get lucky and have them attack the turret

[cyan stratus]

have you tried not getting hit?

[slim lintel]

yeah nano has slightly more range than fireball

[white frost]

yeah that worked out best for me so far!

[slim lintel]

fireball actually has a very short range

[white frost]

I really felt like they both had infinite range 'cause I could use them to snipe across most of Rallypoint Delta

puts bandit into perspective

he can make that snipe, the hitbox is just very, very picky about it

[cyan stratus]

if you tried to snipe at the start of snow map that one trial it didnt work

[white frost]

yeah I tried that with Commando, that's when I learned his range was finite

[wooden ridge]

How tf did that commando get a faster time then me

Commando is good

[river beacon]

Restarted 50 times first stage because I couldn't snipe crystals in good time

Lmao

Second stage is ez

[wooden ridge]

With mult?

[white frost]

Commando would be able to phaseshot the crystal over the island straight through the terrain

so that's something I guess

[wooden ridge]

Yea he is ranged

[white frost]

this pace it looks like anything sub 4 I'll be happy with bandit

put that next to someone who got 3 minutes with commando that's a bit shameful

probably more proof of how bad I am than bandit

[wooden ridge]

Bandit can snipe tho right?

[white frost]

kinda

he has two ranged abilities with 8 seconds of cooldown, and their hitbox is flaky

[wooden ridge]

Bandit can also kinda sprint shoot

[white frost]

you can instead use one of them to kill an enemy to reset the cooldown on both, a skilled bandit player would be doing that

[wooden ridge]

I thought it only reset the CD of m2 unless they changed it

[white frost]

the shots are really slow, it could take ten seconds to know if you even hit or not

no it resets all the cooldowns

[wooden ridge]

Huh I guess the mod changed it

[white frost]

that's kind of the whole concept of him

I haven't modded anything, I just changed the DLL until bandit was playable

it just involves opening him up in the menu

[wooden ridge]

The vanilla version ripped straight from files m2 kills only reset m2 last time I played him. Tho this was like a couple weeks ago

[white frost]

I wrote every line of code myself, if any of them changed his skills I would've recognised that

[wooden ridge]

The devs probably updated him since the time I played him

[white frost]

It's not impossible

[wooden ridge]

That’s good tho, that’s a solid buff

There is a back up mag on s2

[white frost]

yeah he goes far on backups

[wooden ridge]

Idk if that would be better than ocular hud tho

[white frost]

oh in the trial?

[wooden ridge]

Yes

[white frost]

huhhh

yeah I shoudl get that, where is it?

[wooden ridge]

It like the middle chest on the far right of stage 2

[white frost]

reloads every single skill including your main gun

[wooden ridge]

So yea I guess the strat would be to finish cyatsals with it and during boss fights kill trash mobs etc. during wisp fights try to finish with it for each wisp etc.

[white frost]

yup, that's how to bandit

if you don't do that his DPS is worse than long-range commando I can't imagine there ever was a version without the concept

[wooden ridge]

You can definetly get sub 3:30 I’m sure

[white frost]

maybe

I'll try sub 4 first and see if I'm happy with how cool the run looks

[wooden ridge]

Invis sprint to crystal

Kill crystal

Invis sprint

Kill a wisp along the way invis sprint etc

Idk if something like this would work that’s just what’s going through my head

[white frost]

it's not too far off on s2

on s1 I run up to the bridge then fire flare and lights out at the island crystal and pray to RNGesus that the hitbox will play along

out of all the survivors and all trials I've done, this is the only one I've found myself thinking "wow I should use a mouse"

but I only have a shitty mouse

[wooden ridge]

I can’t play today so rip

Depending on how much time is left on the trial I could maybe try it tomorrow

Wait why tf you not use a keyboard and mouse

[slim lintel]

reset is tonight (thank goodness)

[wooden ridge]

Ah rip

Ok well I hope no one beats my merc time cause I can’t play 😆

[white frost]

I got called into the bedchamber cause daughter won't sleep

Guess I'm not doing this trial either

Except that MUL-T time of course

[white frost]

whoa there's an alien head

[wooden ridge]

Kinda

It can also be a fuel cell

[white frost]

oh yeah you mentioned

I'm doing a scouting run for the backup mag

[wooden ridge]

I think it’s only alien when its 4+ mins

[white frost]

so far I havent even survived with Mr. Beebop

[wooden ridge]

Oof

[white frost]

but I almost had it once

so if I had a backup mag I'm sure I could win

but I'd really have to buy both that and the ocular

the ocular lets me melt down almost one wisp right away

oh no this is really out of the way

unless there's two backup mags this seems too inconveniently placed

[wooden ridge]

Yea that was my worry lol

[white frost]

hm

if I give the ocular a miss I could go for it

would be cool to also afford the sticky right next to it as well

but I don't know how I'm supposed to

oof

first impression is that this is way worse

[white frost]

ahhh I did it!

3:19!

A very good bandit could get sub 3, but I think this is my limit

also a very good bandit that had reliable skills and not this random flaky shit

kind of a shame it was so fast

all my good western tunes are like 4 minutes

what made the difference in the end was slowing down to activate shrine of combat and kill some lemurians to level up

before that i was on pace for just about a 4 flat

[wooden ridge]

Yea I wish I could play, if I’d known to not pick up gunner drone and hit combat shrine I could have gotten sub 2:40 on merc.

[cyan stratus]

hit combat shrine lol

[white frost]

https://youtu.be/J4vymFl0YEY

[white frost]

oh wow, Phase Shot has a lot more range than I thought

I had no idea it traveled further than flame bolt and nanobomb

[wooden ridge]

It phases through the ground too

[river beacon]

dont reveal Commando secrets

dammit

one day there will be trial where commando will be the best

mark my words

it will be very fcked up trial tho

[wooden ridge]

I will slashy dashy my way to top one day

[cyan stratus]

@white frost gold turns into exp at the end of a stage

@pearl eagle nice time 👀

[pearl eagle]

I don't wanna hear it

This trial gives me ptsd

[cyan stratus]

idk whats so bad about it

the only rng is lemurian spawn and uke proc

[pearl eagle]

Me neither, I just can't get consistant

It just pisses me off

[cyan stratus]

dont tell me the snipes are giving you trouble

[pearl eagle]

No not really

[cyan stratus]

someone of your caliber

[pearl eagle]

I'm just slow, and I'm not sure whyy

[wooden ridge]

This trial and the FUCKING WISPS FLYING TO OUTERSPACE WHEN I TAP THEM. that’s what’s wrong

[pearl eagle]

Merc problems

[wooden ridge]

If only that ocular hud was a primordial cube.

Does that even work on bosses?

[cyan stratus]

only hordes

[wooden ridge]

I forgot, is that a horde?

[cyan stratus]

yes

[wooden ridge]

Damn

If only it was cube

[cyan stratus]

btw @pearl eagle do you hit the combat shrine

[pearl eagle]

I did sometimes, but not always

[wooden ridge]

Apparently combat shrine is 200iq which I did not know

[pearl eagle]

You do it to "seed the wisp fly path" or something, right?

[cyan stratus]

lmao

yeah i do 🙃

[pearl eagle]

Sounds like some made up star trek shit

[wooden ridge]

I still don’t understand how it affects them

[pearl eagle]

Only way it should affect the wisps is by potentially giving the teleporter director extra credits as far as I know

[wooden ridge]

This trial sucked because they thought we needed milky chrysalis to fight the bosses

[cyan stratus]

btw if you wanna know what really happened

i was testing whether shrine of combat affected whether the imp spawned or not

because gunner turret sometimes targets it

and it turns out it doesn't affect it so it's just a waste of time

[wooden ridge]

Cabbage ur actually an evil mastermind

Making it seem necessary for your amazing Mul-T time

So people waste time on hitting it

[cyan stratus]

lol if you're gonna steal my strat you gotta steal the bad parts too

[wooden ridge]

[slim lintel]

Only an hour and a half left until this hell trial is erased from history

[cyan stratus]

i have a video of it though

[slim lintel]

no you don't you just think you do

[cyan stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4h8RQF1Z3M&feature=youtu.be

[pearl eagle]

🤔

[primal swallow]

at least it says MUL-T now instead of that other inferior character

[cyan stratus]

yeah

[pearl eagle]

Well I just beat your time by 4 seconds cabbage, but my shadowplay isn't working apparantly

FeelsBadMan

[wooden ridge]

i finnish superior

i wish i could try to reduce it but i gtg

[cyan stratus]

wait what lol

must've gotten a very big uke proc

[zenith plinth]

Damn im not in top 100 anymore

[pearl eagle]

Yeah the overloading wisp was at half hp when i killed both of the other two

Was super fricking fast

[cyan stratus]

yikes

[wooden ridge]

I tryed to start with overloading since the shields regen

@zenith plinth I mean you prob are, just a bunch of hackers placed

[zenith plinth]

Nah my time is 2:50

I gotta improve

[wooden ridge]

On what character?

[zenith plinth]

Mul-t

[wooden ridge]

Oh

Yea that shouldn’t be that hard

[pearl eagle]

Just had the jellyfish do no attacks up until the explosion attack, anyone else experienced something similar? My s1 time got cut by like 2 extra sec because I got to charge earlier

[cyan stratus]

yea that's more rng

you have no reason to keep trying, im not trying to grind rng for 2:06 lol

[pearl eagle]

I know, like 50 min before reset

But I'm honestly just mad my shadowplay decided to die on me when I actually needed it

So just hoping I get a good enough time on video to satisfy myself

[cyan stratus]

dw i believe you got that time legit

i know it's definitely possible and i know you're good

btw did you use my speed boost or not

[pearl eagle]

You mean the thing you get sometimes when you land after jumping down the bridge?

[cyan stratus]

yea

didnt you see my video

[pearl eagle]

I did

I'm a loyal subscriber

You mean you got it consistant?

[cyan stratus]

nah ofc not

i've gotten a boost like that twice

[pearl eagle]

Gotten it a total of three times myself

[cyan stratus]

wow look at you

[pearl eagle]

😉

[cyan stratus]

you wouldn't even know it existed if it wasn't for me (:

[pearl eagle]

Yeah, because it never happened on the other trial where you spawned up there

[cyan stratus]

maybe you never tried

[pearl eagle]

Jumping down and breaking my legs? ofc. I hadn't tried that

That's something only an insane MUL-T main would do

[cyan stratus]

gotta try everything

then post it so people can do my route but faster

you can either be good at routing or good at the game, can't have both

[pearl eagle]

Yeah, shame ik

[rain dagger]

I recently got the game and tried the trials, my second attempt I got 10:01 and when looking at my placing I'm seeing something I don't quite get

Rank 1561 has 10:02 and then the 5 slots after them is them being rank 1 at 0:001, is this a bug?

[cyan stratus]

yes

[rain dagger]

Ah, thought I'd check that before making assumtions

[pearl eagle]

Well, I was able to grind out a 2:08 before the reset which I'm gonna upload I guess that's good enough

[slim lintel]

Welp I can already tell arti is low tier on this one before I even touch the first tele

[pearl eagle]

😢

[cyan stratus]

i can tell arti is low tier before even playing the trial

[slim lintel]

blazing stone titan s2

we got disposable missile launcher rng too

2:33 first clear didnt even get the launcher

idk s1 is really odd idk if mult or arti are good at it

[primal swallow]

just got blazing vagrant event 2nd time through on s2

[cyan stratus]

cool, another trial where the first boss drop can be out of reach

catching up

[slim lintel]

its just a knurl not that important

[wooden ridge]

That’s knurls sounds important for fighting a blazing stone bitch

I’ll be able to prob play tomorrow

How do think this trial fairs for merc boyo

[slim lintel]

awful s1 is ass

swamp ass

[cyan stratus]

wow that huntress is fast

47 seconds seems hard to beat

[slim lintel]

damn I wish I was that good

[cyan stratus]

imagine if one of us started to hack and try to get those times

we would crush those idiots lmao

they probably have bad routes

[wooden ridge]

What areas are the stages?

[slim lintel]

swamp ass and worst 1st stage

[wooden ridge]

S1 is swamp?

[slim lintel]

ya

[wooden ridge]

I mean

Newt alter to get rid of blazing bitch s2 might be worth for merc

Anyone check newt shop btw?

[cyan stratus]

you do realize newt shop wastes upwards of 20 seconds

[wooden ridge]

You know that shape glass newt shop cut 20 seconds off my time on the trial before the last one

So it might work if there’s shaped glass

It also changes s2

Like the bisons were turned into a clay dunestrider that one time

[cyan stratus]

ok but it's like really out of the way

well i mean i guess you can climb the wall as merc idk

i really don't like this trial

missile launcher goes after a random wisp 1/2 the time

[slim lintel]

ur mult just walk under the titan so the missiles cant miss lmao

[wooden ridge]

[slim lintel]

also wtf are this titans hitboxes, if you walk anywhere behind him his flame hitbox is like 1000x bigger than it should be

[cyan stratus]

i wonder what ur route is

and it's a blazing titan you walnut how am i gonna walk under it

[wooden ridge]

I need to make one

Idk how I’m going to touch that thing

[slim lintel]

I'm picking up crit glasses and the mk1 missile s1

then the disp launcher s2

[cyan stratus]

great minds think alike lmao

wait nvm thats calling your mind great

[slim lintel]

[wooden ridge]

Hm

Mk1 sounds like this trial might be good on commando

[slim lintel]

I really don't see commando being good, S1 all the crystal are pretty far apart and in shitty areas

[cyan stratus]

mult is so crit rng reliant

[wooden ridge]

I’m happy it’s the swamp because now I can show off on my parkour skills and m2 launches

[slim lintel]

wtf I keep killing a golem right as I tp and its not giving me the money

[cyan stratus]

disposable missile launcher is either all crit or no crit right

[slim lintel]

no clue

this game is inconsistent about that shit

[cyan stratus]

yeah it is and it's disgusting

wow this trial is rng heavy

[wooden ridge]

oof

ok well im trying it rn so lets see what happense xd

@cyan stratus what stage has the rocket equipment??

i think i figured out a strat tho it rewuires mega chesse glitch

[cyan stratus]

2

[wooden ridge]

ok so

\there is a gesture in newt shop

so if you pick that up first

unlimited missles

LOLOLOL

[silver fossil]

sometimes

[wooden ridge]

yea sometimes

but still will prob cut time down like a mofo

[cyan stratus]

i thought they fixed that bug

[wooden ridge]

NOPE

and even then gesture is a massive buff

[cyan stratus]

no it isn't

boss clear speed is fast enough you wouldn't reach 2

also how are you grabbing the missile launcher if you went through the portal

[wooden ridge]

This is all theory

[cyan stratus]

well it's a pretty scuffed theory

[wooden ridge]

Idk how tf it would turn out

Theory’s all part of the fun

But yea I’ll doubt it will work

[cyan stratus]

well i went ahead and wasted 3 lunar coins for you and there's no missile launcher on s2 alt

but there's a radar scanner which is complete cancer when you pick it up because it scans 20x per second

i did manage to find a cloaked chest with it though

[white frost]

What's the first boss this time?

I figured I'd do han D next

And he literally only has two shitty melee attacks

[cyan stratus]

titan

[white frost]

Also I was thinking those turrets I bought would help me get exp from kills but you're right I probably just pissed that gold away

Was really convenient for letting me snipe that crystal in peace

[cyan stratus]

watching that disappointed me

[white frost]

Aw

Don't worry I have bigger disappointments yet to come

[cyan stratus]

looking forward to them

this trial itself is a disappointment

11% chance to crit and every crit saves about 0.5sec

@slim lintel 🤔

found something strange

[slim lintel]

wut

[cyan stratus]

wtf

ok this trial is weird

nvm there's nothing out of the ordinary carry on

ignore my 6 second timesave

[slim lintel]

tell me your secrets

[cyan stratus]

lol im 2:08 now

ok so basically i found a strat

it's really counter intuitive and idk why it works but it does

basically if you kill the boss faster you get a better time, so you wanna prioritize killing it instead of shooting the jellyfish

[slim lintel]

wat

[cyan stratus]

basically

time not lost is time gained

if you go faster you go the opposite of slower

[white frost]

Cabbage has been an old asian monk this whole time

[slim lintel]

well then mult wins this trial, my time isnt perfect by any means but I dont think I can shave that much time off

[cyan stratus]

you're doing it wrong