prismatic-trials

[slim lintel]

like hit tele and run left against the mountain wall and shoot a few of the further ones to the right and maybe one on the left

they'll all run at you in to the wall/you stun them with m2 and make them run in to eachother

[cyan stratus]

that's what i do but sometimes they just randomly dont get aggro'd even when i shoot

[slim lintel]

also found a sick golem boost setup for arti

[cyan stratus]

yeah i guess i'll try later

i hate rng

[slim lintel]

I can't wait 'til we have more bosses in the game so we wont have to deal with mob bosses like this ever again

elite mob boss spawns are so imbalanced. Each blazing bison has almost as much hp as an elite titan and theres like 7 of them

[cyan stratus]

yea it's garbage

tbh this is just gonna be another 'grind world event' map

and i really dont feel like it

[slim lintel]

wonder if we could make a petition for them to change the seed again real quick

[cyan stratus]

done http://chng.it/XqYNbJNBcP

[slim lintel]

lmao nice

Wonder if they are even able to reset it/do anything with it on demand

sadly I don't think 100 people even really care about pt

[cyan stratus]

true

[crude creek]

prismatic trial is the future of this game and should be loved by all 😃

[slim lintel]

this boi knows whats up

[slim lintel]

2:29 #1 bison herder

[white frost]

Oh goddammit I knew I should've gone for sub 2

I think uh

I'm giving this one a miss

@main cipher i only needed the one crit to get my time from 2:05 to like 2:01, most of the time saves are lining your crystal jumps up

[livid vine]

i got like 2:14 i think

imma hold an L this run was rough

[cyan stratus]

remember to sign http://chng.it/MqHj5pSGvt

[slim lintel]

Y'know I bet paulthegoat is the one that gives us all these bison trials. They probably check multiple seeds until they find one with preon and bison

[cyan stratus]

what a guy

[slim lintel]

only 98 more sign's until nothing happens

[cyan stratus]

yea i dont think i get much lower than 2:43

told you arti was best for this one

hmm 2:39

still never getting 2:29

2:34 with a crit preon

meh i'm heading to bed

[livid vine]

Blazing Bisons

o fucking boi this will be a treat

[polar ibex]

second boss is an elite

easy

[cyan stratus]

http://chng.it/MqHj5pSGvt only 97 more signatures

[white frost]

So close

[cyan stratus]

btw why do hackers put there twitch name as their username?

do they hope ppl see their fast time and go watch

the only people who can see their time are people who are good at the game, or hack themselves

[white frost]

What do their twitch videos look like

[cyan stratus]

idk im not giving them a view

[white frost]

How do you know its their twitch name, is the URL in there?

[cyan stratus]

yes

[prisma crest]

What's wrong with the current seed?

[toxic niche]

nothing

[slim lintel]

its garbage please sign our petition

I love how crusty you made that bison

[white frost]

According to SnowRaven, the first trial had a secret win condition, where entering the blue portal would lead to instant victory on level 1

[crystal marten]

I signed, hope congress will see the petition and pass laws to stop this sort of trial from happening again

[white frost]

What a horrible site

I waded through their bullshit to sign it

[slim lintel]

it kept wanting me to sign some thing to stop making women pay for pads and shit lol

[white frost]

God forbid people have to pay for their necessities

[crystal marten]

petition sites are mostly just info phishing anyway, gotta feed into that Big Data ™

[slim lintel]

We have 5 signs now, that's basically everyone that plays PT. Plz change seed

[wicked oak]

wooow

that a hard one here

[wicked oak]

6:00 min 124 lul

just got world event it ez when the is the blazing rock titan

but hell no don't farm for this

[cyan stratus]

where did the tiran spawn

[drowsy jetty]

petition to change trials to be better for merc

[wicked oak]

will send screen shot where he his

jeez just go 4:08

2min inprovement sub 4 is possible

kinda like this challenge

he spawn here

no in the picture did not got the world event

[cyan stratus]

ok

[primal swallow]

and I wasted at least 3-4 seconds missing picking up an energy drink

[cyan stratus]

🤔

wonder what your route is because mine is convoluted

[primal swallow]

I feel like mine is a bit too

i'm backwards sniping crystals twice so some nice crits/Runald's proc could def speed it up a bit

[cyan stratus]

hm i do it 3 times

[slim lintel]

is my crappy 2:29 still #1

[cyan stratus]

no, there's a couple commando's and a lot of huntresses ahead of you

[slim lintel]

ah so yeah still #1

[drowsy jetty]

who knows, maybe these commandos are backwards long rolling to insane speeds

[cyan stratus]

i think they use the wall next to the pool of water to build up some speed

[primal swallow]

bam

[cyan stratus]

okok

crit preon?

[primal swallow]

nope

and easily a few seconds room for improvement before crits are required

[cyan stratus]

then your route is better

do you grab runald and brainstalks?

[primal swallow]

yep

[cyan stratus]

and then both preons, energy drink s2

[primal swallow]

yep

[cyan stratus]

well then you just got a better bison herding strat

[primal swallow]

😄

[cyan stratus]

seems rng to me

[primal swallow]

a bit

when I was fighting them I shifted past them instead of into the group so I almost missed first preon

[cyan stratus]

you preon the ground, right?

[primal swallow]

not really, ideally i'm point blank range to all of them, sometimes there's a few stragglers in the back but so long as they're not the high hp ones they die to 2nd preon ez

[primal swallow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59TOfXBDOaA
I wanna go for sub 2:30 but not right now

[toxic niche]

dunno if useful, but it is possible to get 3 greater whisps on 2nd stage

[slim lintel]

thats def useful unless its one of the stage events

[cyan stratus]

lol you use the same gold glitch i use

your speed optimization is pretty scuffed though

[primal swallow]

yep

[cyan stratus]

oh you're so smart

wtf

please go to a lab and get your brain size checked i think it's too big

[primal swallow]

[cyan stratus]

ok i'll go beat your time when i feel like it

[primal swallow]

aww

fair enough

[cyan stratus]

funny how we got the exact same route with 0 communication though

except i use a crystal jump but w/e

[slim lintel]

omg that bison strat wtf

[crystal marten]

yeah that bison strat is minted

[slim lintel]

cabbage is right brain too big

this boi may have just made bison trials ok~ish

[cyan stratus]

now arti sub2 is possible

[slim lintel]

hmmm an arti at 1:55...don't think thats legit. Can't even reach s2 tele much before 2min

unless I'm missing some weird ass strat

[cyan stratus]

maybe he's just better than you

you thought of that

[slim lintel]

I mean I'm not swatting down the thought of that, which is why i said "unless I'm missing some weird ass strat"

actually I think I can get to 2s tele a lot quicker just have to use the gold cheese and get that other preon

also that tele prong strat doesnt work at all for arti

wisps knock you across the whole frickin map

yeah getting other preon is like 5 seconds quicker but that still only gets me to tele2 at around 1:55~

not gonna believe that one without proof

[shadow raft]

you dont get anything for being a a top player correct?

[cyan stratus]

depression

[slim lintel]

and disappointment

and then someone beating your time when the trial has 5 mins left to fill you with even more depression

[cyan stratus]

i just missed my first preon but crit my second and i dont know how to feel about that

[primal swallow]

bad

[cyan stratus]

ok thanks

[white frost]

Oh wow that 200 IQ bison herding

[zenith plinth]

That bison herd is incredible

[white frost]

Brainstalk was working out, too, Arty or Huntress must be insane in that fight

[cyan stratus]

nah, the only arti player here is too stupid to realize how good it is (^:

[white frost]

Yes I think

[cyan stratus]

with energy drink yes

[white frost]

MUL-T dash is 1250 damage

[cyan stratus]

no it isn't wtf

[white frost]

1250%

250% + 1000%

And actually it's even more because you always get extra speed bonus

Flamethrower is like 3500% damage over 3 seconds and if the dash is a second its pretty close

But dash wins because its dash + grenade + speed bonus

You can just look at the extra yellow number

When you ram a boss there's two hits

The original 250% and the extra 1000%

[slim lintel]

I literally don't see how brainstalks matters when preon + wall + flamethrower kills them all

[white frost]

The extra 1000% can't proc

[slim lintel]

you dont need more cooldowns

[white frost]

Oh, I guess just Huntress then, possibly merc

[slim lintel]

not to mention pickin up brainstalks adds like 15 seconds of picking it up and walking

[white frost]

How does Arty get all the aggro so bisons don't fuck off in every direction

[slim lintel]

I just run to the left of the tele to the cliff wall and hope for the best

the prong wont work sadly

[white frost]

Can't get up or?

[cyan stratus]

the prong strat is garbage anyways

[slim lintel]

wisps deal insane knockback to arti and send you across the map

[cyan stratus]

golem/wisps knock you off

[white frost]

Oh

[slim lintel]

o apparently mult has that issue as well

[white frost]

Might do this one with Huntress, I wanna glaive spam those suckers

[slim lintel]

just gonna patiently wait for next trial

[cyan stratus]

i'll race you

[white frost]

Oh goddammit don't do this to me

[cyan stratus]

ready

[white frost]

I'm gonna be like "ohey cabbage is ducking out of this bet I can beat his time"

[cyan stratus]

set

go

[white frost]

And then spend literally all night grinding a good time and have it beat with no effort

Well I ain't bitting

Gonna do Huntress and get 3 minutes and be happy with myself

I'll race Aevan

What's your merc time Aevan

[cyan stratus]

jjust grind world event

[white frost]

Not yet I haven't

[primal swallow]

petition to fix bisons to charge you after you shoot them

it's really annoying when I get a crit preon and then there's just one of the high hp ones eating snow in BFN

[cyan stratus]

yea that's why idrc about my time this trial if it's rng

[slim lintel]

It's not RNG, its ADVANCED BISON AI MANIPULATION

[primal swallow]

and crit rng

[cyan stratus]

@white frost got a 2:50 what's your huntress time?

my bison fight was scuffed, idk how to maximize dps

[cyan stratus]

anyone know why sometimes instead of ~7 bisons, only 3 blazing ones with like 5k hp each spawn?

[slim lintel]

probably something to do with director tokens

or whatever they're called

[cyan stratus]

yea ok nvm

just got the sub 2:30 mult

ggs

[solar void]

dumb question, is there a way to see the top of the leaderboards without being there?

[tiny quest]

Don't think so, it'd be neat if they had a web API so you could see it online though

[solar void]

yeah, i started running it with merc and was curious what other merc times there were, cause i can already tell i cant get close to the mul-T one

I cant get close to the mulT one with the merc i mean

[cyan stratus]

top merc times are hacked

[tiny quest]

Just completed my first game without losing, got rank 146, feelsgoodman

[cyan stratus]

saw a bunch of 2:20 merc

[tiny quest]

That's icky

[solar void]

well i was inspired by the mul-t run, ill see if i can come up with something good for merc, my current time is 9:53 tho so I have a ways to go.

[cyan stratus]

mul-t run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JdZ2-6d8o

this message is sponsored by the mult cult

[solar void]

anyone know the breakpoint for flaming bison vs regular bison?

and thats the run that inspired me, but I am doing something different, if i get a good time ill share for sure

[cold oracle]

that could be improved a lot cabbage like not missing the crystal in delta

or better movement

[cyan stratus]

go ahead

[cold oracle]

go ahead?

[cyan stratus]

you

[cold oracle]

oh me go and run it

I actually might switch to mult

I don't know how to do the speed boost at the beggining

[cyan stratus]

it's p easy to watch the video and find parts that could be faster but if you try it yourself you see it's not that easy to improve

sub 2:30 is ridiculously hard for mult this trial

[cold oracle]

uh huh

no jk

It just seems like a few adjustments could get it to a 2:15

[crystal marten]

I'm def having trouble dropping down to 2:30

I'm not much of a MulT though

[cold oracle]

yeah he is prob. the best

but I enjoy playing huntress

[crystal marten]

I got a 4ish min run with merc but

poor merc's just not a quick boy

[solar void]

i just did a 5:20 one, but i can get sub 5 with the strat if i suck less

which I am working on

i keep dieing on the final boss cause fire hurts

and i bet if i just do it over and over again till every hit is a crit, it will be even lower 😄

[cyan stratus]

if you like playing huntress you should beat my huntress time

also if you get 2:15 with mult without a world event i'll eat my shoe on livestream

[solar void]

what is a world event?

[crystal marten]

rng boss change

sometimes swaps a boss out for a different one

[solar void]

that seems like a wierd mechanic for a speed running competition

[cyan stratus]

this isn't competitive

too much rng and too little time

[crystal marten]

looks at the devs if only there was less RNG in the static seeded trials

[solar void]

it kinda is, more in the fun kinda way

[crystal marten]

not that I'm actually mad

[solar void]

im still happy to hear someone out there was good enough to beat it in -3 seconds 😄

and im not a huge huntress fan, i liked merc and engineer, but engineer can be boring

i liked mul-t too

I just can't imagine coming up with a better strat than that for him, and figuring out the strat is the fun part for me

[solar void]

got the merc in 4:36 😄

[white frost]

I'll let you know what my huntress time is when I run it

from your video it looks as fun as I imagined it

I feel like your stage 2 route can be improved, you arrow rain a crystal that's in your way anyway and take a detour to destroy the crystal in the back

will try myself later

[solar void]

im going to post my vid when its done uploading and check before i go to bed, feel free to roast the strat

there is a 50/50 chance my strat is just a meme 😛

[white frost]

What's your time you say? 5:20 with engineer?

[solar void]

4:36 with merc

[white frost]

doesn't sound bad

[solar void]

well it may look bad when you see it, i think its funny tho

https://youtu.be/n6NbQ1ifEpE

never recorded before... ill need to do something about the resolution next time

ill be back

[cyan stratus]

why aren't you using m2 for horizontal movement

also you skipped the preon wtf

[white frost]

I feel like the S1 route is wrong

[cyan stratus]

i tried merc and just went top

[white frost]

merc could warp up from the starting point and have 3 crystals lined up in almost a direct route to the teleporter

[cyan stratus]

yea

[white frost]

instead you take the long way around and even move away from the tele at some point

[cyan stratus]

s2 route is also questionablke

[white frost]

yeah

going for the 2 grouped crystals seems like the smart move, merc needs that

but it's ashort walk from those to the preon, and preon is gonna do a lot in the bison fight

hm

Those 2 grouped crystals, aren't they close enough you could hit both with 1 arrow rain?

[solar void]

I went the way I went on first floor for the crit and extra spin

Does m2 go faster than sprinting?

[cyan stratus]

you can grab backup mag and brainstalks

and yes

[solar void]

That changes everything

Maybe I read brainstalks wrong but I didn't think it happened often

Also what's a preon

[white frost]

preon accumulator

there's an equipment barrel on the cliff that drops one

basically one-time use in the scope of a trial, but it's a giant 4000% damage explosion

[solar void]

And it does big damage?

[white frost]

• sparks

[solar void]

I'll keep that in mind tomorrow, thanks for the advice

[livid vine]

anybody got a video for Arti

[slim lintel]

no vid, but go up top stage 1. hit the far crystal with a fully charged m2 right before you land from the jump pad, start running towards the upper crystal and hit it with 4 m1s. Turn 90 degrees and hit the far crystal with another m2 then run and drop down to the lower crystal, hit it with 5 m1s as you drop and keep running, you get a perfect jump towards tele

also charge an M2 right as you spawn so you can shoot it in the ground and jump over the rock in front of the jump pad

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[cyan stratus]

yikes

i think there's a better way of explaining that with a visual

luckily i have one for mul-t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74JdZ2-6d8o

[slim lintel]

my time is a few milliseconds faster tho

I'd make a vid but I really don't feel like playing this trial again

[livid vine]

yea these bison are fucking aids

[cyan stratus]

at the end you can see i couldve entered portal like 1sec earlier

but bounced back

so in my book i win 🙃

[livid vine]

having elite mobs as bosses is stupid

[slim lintel]

what kinda butthole logic is that

[livid vine]

like i gotta group up all these bison to use the fucking preon

but its hard to group them up without 100 other enemies on my asshole

[white frost]

In my videos you can see I suck, but if I hadn't sucked I would've beat cabbage's times every time

so in my book I win more

[livid vine]

so do we all agree elite enemies suck as bosses

[white frost]

they're nice for arty

except bisons

[slim lintel]

even for arti its booty

[livid vine]

see i would agree but bisons

[white frost]

and wisps

so pretty much just golems

[cyan stratus]

zzzzzzzz

[slim lintel]

poor cabbage can't comprehend such an advanced character so he dozes off

[white frost]

https://twitter.com/mobiusdisco/status/1126580843626016768 Cabbage is this you

Connor (@mobiusdisco)

@RiskofRain I think you know

Twitter

[livid vine]

like i already gotta deal with trash mobs, with this trial its like "guess what more trash mobs"

like fuck dude i don't want more trash mobs as bosses

[cyan stratus]

no

[livid vine]

i got the fucking Wisp event

thats another thing i don't want happening

[cyan stratus]

zzzzzzzz

[slim lintel]

yeah this trial is pretty tiring

[livid vine]

yea fuck this

imma take tha rank 60 L

this trial can eat my ass lmao

[solid fable]

yeah i'll stop at 115

frick this

what is the time on 60?

[cyan stratus]

rank number doesn't mean anything because of hackers

[solid fable]

ok it's 66 now

how is it possible to hack prismatic?

also Keun is 70 now, i see him xD

anyway how tf can you even possibly do it in 2:50 as commando 0_o

[cyan stratus]

you can't

just get cheat engine and modify damage values

[wicked oak]

AH

that's not good

[solid fable]

so it's even theoretically not possible to do it as commando in only 2:50 right? i mean it sounds ridiculous

[cyan stratus]

probably not

[livid vine]

idgaf about that trial

that trial can eat my ass

[solid fable]

no i meant without hacks lol

[wicked oak]

ok

will try to farm for the world event

[pearl eagle]

Yeah, so I thought you all were overreacting because of a couple of bisons, but jesus I can see why you all hate it after playing this trial

[slim lintel]

lol

[robust crater]

whats so bad about this prismatic trial?

[pearl eagle]

A lot of blazing bisons as the stage 2 boss. Makes the trial extremely frustrating when it feels like you are just herding bisons for a good preon hit

[slim lintel]

and they gave us not one, but two preons

[wooden ridge]

blazing bison synergizes really well with the brainstalks btw

i tried it with merc

and you can clean up the bison really fast at the end cutting off a good amount of time

[solar void]

maybe i misunderstand brainstalks, but dont you need to kill one of the bison first to get the effect?

[slim lintel]

^ this is why I dont get its use at all. If you don't kill them all with preon/almost kill them all its time for a reset

[cyan stratus]

you literally cannot kill all of them with a preon

the high health ones will stay high health so you need brainstalks for them

[slim lintel]

not in my experience, then again I have an ice wall

[wooden ridge]

whats the fastest time with merc?

i got like 4:20 somthing i think

[cyan stratus]

didnt record any runs but when i tried for fun i think i got sub4

not sure though

[solar void]

mine is 4:36

but i recently learned m2 is faster than sprinting

so i need to do it again

[solar void]

if i felt like i had a good run but wisps spawn instead of buffalo did i do something wrong?

[mossy spruce]

Just got barely sub4 (3:59.92) with Artificer

Currently rank 115

[toxic niche]

i don't mind the bisons

if there were no preons, huntress might even win

[cyan stratus]

what's your huntress time?

[toxic niche]

3:06 without crit 🤷

i'm guessing something like 2:45 is possible

[cyan stratus]

im 2:50

but it's scuffed

[toxic niche]

with crit i assume?

[cyan stratus]

nah i have a video up

if you're a loyal subscriber go check your subscription box

[toxic niche]

i pick up the preon at 8:00, haven't seen your vid, but that's a decent reference point i guess

[cyan stratus]

i just use the capsule, not the box

only did a couple huntress runs though so route is probably bad

[toxic niche]

to be fair, i didn't do that many runs either so yours might be better anyway

not really making prismatic trials a priority

[wooden ridge]

@drowsy jetty what?

[wooden ridge]

uh idk this is the first time ive done a prismatic

rn i have 4: 27 on merc

without preon

[wooden ridge]

ayyy

whats the current best merc time?

yooo i just got 4:04

[fallow ice]

Nice

[wooden ridge]

any one know why the bison boss spawns more bison with overloading etc on lowertime

[tribal hamlet]

yeet

[reef walrus]

So even prismatic trials are based off of luck? half my runs i get imp overlord the others bisons

[wooden ridge]

What...

[pearl eagle]

Depending on how fast/slow you are you might end up with different bosses because of the difficulty changing and the boss director having more credits to work with

[wooden ridge]

They are seeded

The Bison’s should be second boss

They are elite

[pearl eagle]

It can change depending on the time

[reef walrus]

Ahh, so going quicker you get the bisons?

[wooden ridge]

I mean if your being slow for them to not be bisons then that’s another issue

Ye go quicker for bison

Brainstalks is really good since they are elite boss

That’s why a lot of people are using artificer I think

For the current prismatic

[pearl eagle]

Biggest reason is probably the ice wall

Since they work on the bisons

[wooden ridge]

And there are 2 preons on the second map so Mult-T is also being used a lot

Yea the ice wall is good

[white frost]

If you're fast, no trial should be able to give you imp overlord

They're more expensive than other bosses

[reef walrus]

Oh, where are the preons?

[wooden ridge]

Idk if there’s a better merc route

The one I’m using seems the best.

[white frost]

Overlord and magma worm are both 800 creds

Rest is 600

[wooden ridge]

Unless I should be using preon 🤔

If anyone has a time faster than 4:04 on merc can you please show me your route xD

tell me your secrets

[solar void]

if i hit all 3 with preon i would have about the same time

but im bad :/

ill show you mine if you show me yours O.o

[wooden ridge]

I would need to record it. But maybe I can take a screenshot of all the spots I hit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/563138000771612679/576606098975621130/2019-05-10_9.png

These are the items I used. (The scythe is from first tp and rockets from 2nd ofc)

[solar void]

did you go to the 3 holder thing on 1st tp room for glasses then leave?

without hitting the thing in the back

the time crystal

[wooden ridge]

I got the 1 glasses, back up mag, and brainstalks, and scythe on first level

And runald

[solar void]

the mag next to the brain stalks?

[wooden ridge]

Yes

So make sure you have 75$ when going that direction

[solar void]

im curious which of the 3 time crystals you hit

my vid is uploading but i still need to suck less to get it down but i think the path is good

[wooden ridge]

For the first one, I hit the one next to the glasses, then went on the hill and got that one, then went below the hill and hit that one next to the brainstalks and back up

[solar void]

oh

[wooden ridge]

So it’s like a zigzag towards tp

[solar void]

any idea what your time was after 1st room?

[wooden ridge]

They usually end on 2

[solar void]

cause i went a bit more out of the way for a crystal and backup mag

its about the same as mine then

when i do the fight really well i get 1:50

but usualy 2

[wooden ridge]

O.o

If I could get 1.50

That would cut my run time by ALOT

I could probably end up getting sub 4

[solar void]

well i should be clear i kill the boss at 1:50

i duno if you are talking about dematerializing

if so yours is much faster

[wooden ridge]

For the brainstalks to work well on the bisons you need to hit it early enough so the 6 bisons spawn instead of 3

[solar void]

ive never hit it that early

[wooden ridge]

but yea I always get 2 min on first stage

What items do you get on the first level?

[solar void]

2 mags, crit glasses

[wooden ridge]

ah but no brain hm

What about runald?

[solar void]

no, since im aoeing the bison down i didnt see the use for it

oh that too

[wooden ridge]

Hm

Maybe if I don’t use brain. And use your route for first level I could end up with a faster time

On second level I just grab the crit glasses and immediately start boss

[solar void]

right now my time is higher than yours cause im bad but you can see if anything from the route works for you, after i finish uploading this im going to grind it some more to lower it

[wooden ridge]

Yea. I’ll definitely try it out.

[solar void]

had a bad 1st boss fight and missed a bisson with preon

[wooden ridge]

Yea that’s why I don’t like preon.

[solar void]

https://youtu.be/1b5TowbyZhw

[wooden ridge]

It seemed a little out of the way and could be inconsistent

[solar void]

it is out of the way :/

but you just need to wait till you have 2 stun locked with dash

and the 3rd one will come in

i hit 2 boss bison and a 3rd not boss one

[wooden ridge]

But yea I’ll definelty give it a try

Also I don’t know if it’s just me but I try to not dash attack on the stone titan because I think it does less damage than m2 spam

So I just spam eviserate and m2 on him

But I could be wrong

[solar void]

but m2 only has 3 charges, i need to do something

i could left click instead

[wooden ridge]

Because dash can push you away from the boss and in that time of getting to him could have been 1-3 slashes

[solar void]

but i did use dash instead of evicerate once or twice there i should change that

[wooden ridge]

Unless you skillfully dash up then down vertically

2 back up mags is definelty a lot of damage output that’s for sure

[solar void]

3 total at the end

[wooden ridge]

I’m thinking maybe if you could get the wisp spawns nicely you can dash chain them on the way. Allowing enough money to buy brainstalks and 2 back ups 🤔

But I could be drastically wrong lol

[solar void]

you need like 25 more gold

than what i had

[wooden ridge]

Yea

[solar void]

i assume you hit the same crystals as me on 2nd floor

but didnt go out of your way for the preon

[wooden ridge]

In your video.

You see the 3 wisps?

Maybe if you chain those in the right direction you could have enough for brainstalks

But RNG gods for spawn positions would need to be in your favor xD

[solar void]

im not going to try for that but you can if you want 😄

[wooden ridge]

Lol

Yea pikk I didn’t go for the preon.

Just straight for the 2 crystals then down for glasses

[solar void]

i got the 1st boss under 2 min by not worrying about chaining all 3 dashes

its much better to make sure you are positioned properly for evercerates, but it still does good damage

[wooden ridge]

thought so

[wooden ridge]

i just used your route for first level and still got a 4:04

i think tho if i do it correctly i could be faster

[solar void]

i had a near perfect run till i died half way through last boss... looked like that was about that I was going to get

was 3:46 with about half health on all 3 bison

[wooden ridge]

@solar void HOLY SHIT DUDE

if you go fast enough you get 6 bison spawn

it cuts time down like crazy

[solar void]

did you skip preon then?

[wooden ridge]

ye

i used your route for the extra mag

[solar void]

awesome, ill have to try that

[wooden ridge]

and skipped brain

[solar void]

what time do you need to get 6 bison spawn?

[wooden ridge]

i think 2:30-40? maybe

[solar void]

ill give it a shot!

[wooden ridge]

yea go for it. goodluck!

i dash at the end of it so i can reach tp

kill dash tp

i think i have the fastest merc run? i cant scroll up so idk

[solar void]

i have problkems with spirits being in the way when i do that

and i dont even hit the boss with eviscerate cause of a spirit

i got to the end for 6 buffalo but didnt have enough money for the 3rd mag

OH YOU DIDNT GET THE 3rd MAG

[wooden ridge]

LOL

yea the 6 buffolo timing is definelty key

also runald proc RNG crystals is kinda BS for fast times

[white frost]

what if proc chances were increased by 4x for trials

could come with a buff to enemies

[wooden ridge]

guys im a god lmao

sub 4

by TEN seconds

i dont think i can do better than that

[solar void]

nice!

just got 4:19

team work makes the dream work!

[wooden ridge]

guys i was wrong

if your too fast 3 bison spawn

very weird

unless its random

becuase i started boss at 2:34 and 3 spawned

but on my fast time i started it at 2:45 and 6 spawned

[solar void]

there is something called a "world encounter"

its a small chance to get something different because its funny

i had a run ruined by getting 3 greater wisps

[wooden ridge]

oof

[solar void]

i just sat there dumbfounded for 10 seconds...

[wooden ridge]

but yea apparently to get fast time dont be too fast 🤔

idk ill test more

becuase if so thats so stupid

nope i was wrong

its just random i think

oof

[solar void]

https://youtu.be/OwAUITbTVBw

does that look about your path?

[wooden ridge]

yep

thats exactly what i do

i think prismatic time shows for freinds, so if anyone wants to see each others times. add me

https://steamcommunity.com/id/Cold_Fingers/

[solar void]

i added u

[wooden ridge]

yep i accepted ❤ i see you👀

[solar void]

i was, but it makes 3 bison spawn instead of 6

you must have cut time off in first room

did you fly up top at the start?

any idea what time you had at the end of the 1st room?

yeah seems like it

id try if i had time but ill probably just wait till next one

[wooden ridge]

ill try that one

i tried it Aeveon

it can possibly be quicker

but its really easy to die

becuase no crit glasses = no crit heal

fire bisons burn ur booty

[river beacon]

I got 3:37

but I played very poorly

every eviserate connected with enemy lmao

[wooden ridge]

really? damn

what route did you take?

[river beacon]

I will post video once it uploads

https://youtu.be/G0SfjixdQFA

you can save like 30 sec if you take this route

just by playing better heh

@wooden ridge

how to check top times?

[cyan stratus]

you can't check top times but they're all hackers anyways

who is Layfoo? his mult times really don't seem legit

[solar void]

lol, was wondering if someone would use drone

[river beacon]

drone > backup mag imo

[solar void]

its less out of the way

[river beacon]

and you end up with 0 cash

noice

[solar void]

2nd floor is dirfferent when you go through blue portal

didnt know that

[river beacon]

btw does anyone know why did 2 of my attacks not register at 20sec?

[wooden ridge]

i didnt know the floor was different when through blue portal

i just got 3:30 from that route

[solar void]

i have it happen alot idk why

also found out that enemies can kill the crystals

but you dont get money if they do

[wooden ridge]

oof

[solar void]

lost 5 or 6 runs to that

[wooden ridge]

i didnt know blue portal was part of this tho

my eyes are now open to the possibilities

[solar void]

if it wasnt 2.5 hours from changing mine would be

[wooden ridge]

are you not home atm is that the issue?

[solar void]

the issue is i have like 4 coins

cause i got the game less than a week ago

[wooden ridge]

ohhhh

i mean you could file edit them in

[river beacon]

I got 3:02 with similar strat as artificer

[wooden ridge]

@boreal matrix whats this?

^

newt portal is only really good with merc id say

the fastest i could get was 3:24 as merc

[wooden ridge]

whoelse is just waiting for that reset rn lol

[wooden ridge]

Rip merc on this prismatic oof

[slim lintel]

wait reset was tonight?

[cyan stratus]

brain so slow you have no concept of time

[slim lintel]

moreso I cared so little about last trial I forgot when it started

[cyan stratus]

and you still got wr

typical braindead arti

[slim lintel]

lol no one beat that time?

[cyan stratus]

i didn't care enough to improve my run by 50ms

some mult got 2:27 but he got a really sus time the trial before that so i think he's a hacker

[slim lintel]

ew this on has a lot of running

[cyan stratus]

you mean rolling?

oh wait you're playing arti lmao

[slim lintel]

either way having to run/roll across the map twice s1 is kinda shitty

[cyan stratus]

wyn twice

[slim lintel]

well like 1 and a half

[cyan stratus]

if you go up the ramp at spawn it's confirmed you dont have a brain

[wooden ridge]

im thinking of using the ocular hud and fuel cell on second stage

and just using turret on first stage

unless i should get items first stage for Ap printing?

this one is so wack rn

[cyan stratus]

wait do you actually have to go up the ramp for s1

where are all the crystals

[slim lintel]

I found a different path

s1 is still aids

[cyan stratus]

oh nvm you can backsnipe

[wooden ridge]

i think i need to cheese extra 3$ at the end of s1

[cyan stratus]

yea i remember seeing that like 3 months ago

[slim lintel]

yay all flying bosses

[cyan stratus]

feelsgoodman

[slim lintel]

eh turrets near tele on both stages end up making this one OK

[cyan stratus]

until the turret just goes and shoots some beetle

also extends tp time by like 10sec

[slim lintel]

yeah just had that happen lol

maybe just the s1 one

[cyan stratus]

yea nothing really spawns s2

lmao im rank 1

[wooden ridge]

i pick up gunner and turret s1

[wooden ridge]

im still trying to figure out how i want to go about s2

[cyan stratus]

hackers sleeping

[wooden ridge]

as merc

[cyan stratus]

i would say kill three crystals and then the boss

[wooden ridge]

the ocular hud + uke is really good

[cyan stratus]

hackers woke up feelsbadman

[slim lintel]

where the hud at

[wooden ridge]

the fucking burn damage makes me wanna kms

@slim lintel it to the left of the first crystal on s2

[cyan stratus]

you literally can't miss the hud

[slim lintel]

I didnt bother to scout and let y'all do all the work

[wooden ridge]

holy shite this boss is cancer

im literallly just getting one shotted

[slim lintel]

for some reason hopoo thought mob bosses should be 100x more dangerous and powerful than actual bosses

[cyan stratus]

remember blazing stone titan

[slim lintel]

one boss was an actual threat, but that was due to a bug and they fixed it

[wooden ridge]

idk if ill be able to do this as merc fml

[cyan stratus]

have you tried mul-t?

[wooden ridge]

i mean i could go for the hud but its so out fo the way

[white frost]

there's something weird about prismatic trials

a couple of trials ago second boss was an overloading titan that, if you reached him fast enough, would have 3000 hp

that shouldn't be possible

titans have 2100hp and elites have twice as much, plus it's on the second stage with increased difficulty

[wooden ridge]

has anyone tried to see what the mountain does? xd

[white frost]

probably to make trials less painful there's an exception that lowers boss health on stage 2, but possibly doesn't apply it to horde of many?

[slim lintel]

that trial we we were getting to the second boss and kill it before any difficulty change I think

probably bugged the hp out

[white frost]

I still recall getting elder lemurian with more health than the titan that was supposed to be there

[wooden ridge]

if you wait long enough that big box in s2 becomes an alein head. if only it was that instead of a fuel cell

[crystal marten]

mul-T is great for wisps

[white frost]

wait you can change the box content by waiting?

[crystal marten]

just lead em out in a straight line and hit all of them with laser+uke procs

[wooden ridge]

idk i did it by accident

[cyan stratus]

why would you laser the wisps

what

[wooden ridge]

i was scouting and was like "wow" alein head"

and then i did it quick and was like "wait wtf this is a fuel cell"

[white frost]

huh

that's a first

[wooden ridge]

like wait 4 mins and open it

xd

yea this trial is fucking impossible as merc

i mean probably not impossible

[slim lintel]

wtf

[wooden ridge]

but its fucking annoying

[slim lintel]

mountain shrine made it 2 wisps instead of 3

[wooden ridge]

WOT

mountain shrine strat???

i gotta try this

[slim lintel]

I took a while longer because I was trying some arti M2 strat that didnt pan out, so that may be a factor as well

[white frost]

are all 3 wisps elites without the shrine?

mountain shrine doubles the credits available, if it could afford another 5 wisps it would use them to buy 2 elites rather than 1 elite + 2 non elites

[cyan stratus]

all 3 are elite

[white frost]

well fuck me then

[cyan stratus]

get your directors out of here

[white frost]

is the total health pool smaller with the 2 elites?

[slim lintel]

tried it again, 2 wisps again

they had 6500~ hp I believe

idk how much the 3 have

[wooden ridge]

they are definelty easier

ok wtf so hit mountain guys lmao

[white frost]

trial directors are drunk

[slim lintel]

also i was trying to hit a crystal around an edge with its max range auto explosion

couldnt find an easy setup tho

[wooden ridge]

ye but Aevean

[cyan stratus]

lol mult can snipe the crystal i think you're talkkng about

[wooden ridge]

i still havnt won yet

[cyan stratus]

btw the gunner drone doesn't shoot through your body

[wooden ridge]

i keep dying

[cyan stratus]

so you can literally bodyblock it

[slim lintel]

yeah cabbage, sadly arti sucks and has fat ass honkin' projectiles that clip terrain

[wooden ridge]

i just got 4:04 with merc

[slim lintel]

meh I can already tell arti cant touch mult this trial I'm not gonna even bother clearing

[wooden ridge]

oof

on the bright side i think i have the best merc time

i also used mountain to win

[cyan stratus]

how tf ur name pink

[wooden ridge]

stop looking at mah pink name

[slim lintel]

because game is dumb and broken and doesnt know what its doing

[cyan stratus]

means hacker

[wooden ridge]

nah just made my steam name have it

[cyan stratus]

vac ban

[wooden ridge]

lol

yea idk how i feel about this trial

[crystal marten]

This is likely the only time I'll be able to see cabbage on the boards

[wooden ridge]

I can’t see anyone above 5

[slim lintel]

this trial is booty

[wooden ridge]

^agreed

[cyan stratus]

this is a fun trial 👍

[crystal marten]

I kinda like the first level

the second has a boring route

[cyan stratus]

btw shrine of mountain is objectively worse

adds about 2k hp to the boss pool

[slim lintel]

first level is a snorefest for arti, as cabbage likes to point out arti can just kinda walk in a straight line and do nothing

[wooden ridge]

My merc route is hella fun on s2

[crystal marten]

lol who would ever hit mountain

[wooden ridge]

I found a slope I use to launch myself

@crystal marten that was the only way I could bEat the trial.

[slim lintel]

depends on how well you can group them, if you cant get all 3 to group I feel mountain is still better

[cyan stratus]

no it isn't

[slim lintel]

ya it is

[cyan stratus]

wow that's weird because i dont see u on the leaderboard

should have a better time than me

with your superior strat

[slim lintel]

🦀

[cyan stratus]

2:18 👀

[wooden ridge]

i mean if we are talking about charcter specific mountain is how i won with merc

[crystal marten]

character specific leaderboards when

[wooden ridge]

ikr

[slim lintel]

also any trial with wisps is just stupid and I wont participate. They make it nearly impossible to use flamethrower

[cyan stratus]

wow a very fast merc beat my time

2:06 what a god

[wooden ridge]

LOL "totally not hacks"

[cyan stratus]

a merc got 1:09

[wooden ridge]

lmao that like the time it take for first boss

i wish they add easy anti cheat

[zenith plinth]

doesn't even have to be cheats, they can simply mod the game cause the devs think people will have an honor system over the internet rofl

[wooden ridge]

yea sadly

ayyyy i just got a 3:32 with merc

ocular hud route is the way to go

Add me on steam so we can see each others times :)
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Cold_Fingers/

[white frost]

I'm thinking of making my next trial video bandit

[wooden ridge]

just got 3:09 on merc

#7 on the board baby

those other 2 mercs are hackers right?

[pale yarrow]

so i got a trash time for my first run with engineer 6:30, second run-through in total and got 71st for now.

and just to make sure, do the turrets get the armor piercing rounds as well if you have them right?

[zenith plinth]

it inherits everything

[pale yarrow]

thought so, one of my friends said he tested some things with engin and found perks the turrets didnt gain. forget what he was talking about but i think he was lying tbh

[white frost]

maybe infusion?

they gain the item, just not your stacks

[wooden vortex]

so many non legit runs feelsbadman

[cyan stratus]

you talkin to me

🙃

[livid vine]

lmao

[wooden vortex]

no i know ur good cabbage lmao

i've seen your videos

[pale yarrow]

dam you guys make mul-t look like cake

[livid vine]

of course it has to be blazing Wisp

[slim lintel]

lemme just use flamethro- oh I'm dead

[livid vine]

LMAO

[cyan stratus]

have you tried not getting hit? works for me as mult

[livid vine]

you know never thought of doing that

[wooden vortex]

Best way is to stay farther back so the travel time on their shots is longer

And jump so that they fire at you when you are in the air

[slim lintel]

ok, lemme just mod flamethrower to have a couple hundred extra feet

[wooden vortex]

Yeah on Arti it's kinda impossible lmao

[wooden ridge]

I just woke up

Am I still the only legit mercenary?

[limber fable]

is there any way to see the whole leader board

[wooden ridge]

nah there isnt

which sucks

im right next to you tho hello hehe

[limber fable]

i cant get any lower idk how they getting 235 on huntress

[wooden ridge]

idk im a mercinary.

im prettty sure i have the fastest legit mercinary time without hacking

@limber fable but if a huntress who is active here may be nice to show a video of their route for you

[wooden ridge]

I think I can get under 3 if I try hard enough

[wooden ridge]

(I didn’t bother pick up the uke at the end btw that’s why it doesn’t show)

[cyan stratus]

ukelele doesnt work on merc?!

til

[wooden ridge]

The one on s1. works really well

[wooden ridge]

Fighting the wisps

[solar void]

my merc time is legit...

just not as good 😦

[wooden ridge]

I’m not home atm.

What’s your rn pikk?

[solar void]

i have like 3:36

was after maybe 10 attempts

[wooden ridge]

Hm what are you going for?

Oh

[solar void]

im going for basicly nothing on 1st floor

and then going for crit on second floor

and i get turrets next to bosses

[wooden ridge]

Yea, I just go for gunner drone then turret next to tp on s1, get uke drop, then go to s2 then go for ocular hud, then go to tp and buy turret their and kill wisps.

[solar void]

i streamed my learning process but im going to run it again and ill just record

where is the gunner drone?

[cyan stratus]

anyone beat my mult time yet

[wooden ridge]

What crystals do you get on s1?

[solar void]

2 on the island and one up on the land bridge

[wooden ridge]

Don’t go to the island

[solar void]

but then i dont get to use my flying strats for the one on the land bridge! 😛

[wooden ridge]

Just go to the land bridge but take the loop on the right

[solar void]

ohhhh

land bridge and then go down

[wooden ridge]

You hit 3 crystals all the way up

[solar void]

oh up?

[wooden ridge]

Then go down buy gunner and hit boss

Idk how to explain rn lmao

[solar void]

no worries

[wooden ridge]

The green arrow is the direction I go

Go around the back

The crystals lead up the bridge

[solar void]

yeah thats what i figured

i got it down a bit, but the last boss is hard :/

Im trying to figure out a way to use alien head too

id love to see your 2nd boss fight cause it always turns out poorly for me

[cyan stratus]

hey i just figured out something cool

if you activate shrine of the mountain and shrine of combat you only fight 1 overloading wisp

got a 2:11 with a 1:18 out of s1 that's weird

[wooden ridge]

@solar void nah you don’t need the alien head

Yea the last boss took a little bit for me to figure out tho. I kept dying

[cyan stratus]

anyone try engi? did 1 run for fun and got 3:27

[wooden ridge]

I feel like engi can get way more items because of all the passive kill potential = more money

[cyan stratus]

i didnt get items lol

[wooden ridge]

Lol

I’m curious to see what hitting just the combat shrine does and how it affects the boss

[cyan stratus]

doesn't do anything to the boss unless you also use shrine of mountain and then it's just 1 overloading wisp

[wooden vortex]

I got a low-mid 3 on engi but I don't see it getting any faster than that

His range is his biggest weakness

But last boss is way easier

[cyan stratus]

i mean my first and only run was 3:27 so i assume it could be much faster

[wooden vortex]

How are you doing it in the first area? Because in my route I need some really long range hits that engi can't pull off

[cyan stratus]

for the first area i kill 3 crystals and then the boss

[wooden vortex]

Lol

Protecting the strats I see

[cyan stratus]

i just told you exactly what i do

[wooden vortex]

🤔

[cyan stratus]

you mean with engi or mult ??

[wooden vortex]

Engi

[cyan stratus]

yeah, 3 crystals and then the boss

for mult i only kill 2 crystals

then i reset because i missed my snipe

[wooden vortex]

Lol

[wooden ridge]

the comabt shrine did not turn it into 1 wisp with mountain

i just tried

[cyan stratus]

maybe you didn't press it hard enough?

[wooden ridge]

lol

[cyan stratus]

works fine for me

no reason to do it because no ukelele proc

[wooden ridge]

yea

[cyan stratus]

why has nobody beaten my mult time yet, it's pretty bad tbh

i just dont feel like grinding lemurian spawns

[wooden vortex]

Pretty sure I don't have first area optimized yet

I go very slow In a few spots

[cyan stratus]

im not uploading my time yet so y'all can figure it out by yourself

i feel like seeing some strat diversity 🙃

plus idk what i'm doing for s1 anyways

[wooden ridge]

is there any recording software that i should use because rn nothings seems to work. or it drops my game fps

[cyan stratus]

obs

[wooden ridge]

no work

[primal swallow]

I think my crystal route for s1 is as good as it's getting, but i'm garbage at fighting Vagrant for some reason

[wooden vortex]

Who are you using?

[primal swallow]

MULT

[wooden vortex]

Multi can kind of just stand underneath

[slim lintel]

use obs, just need to change settings. You're probably recording at a rediculous bitrate and killing your PC

[wooden vortex]

If you go up the ledge you can ran it's tentacles too

[wooden ridge]

its just says error

[wooden vortex]

Ram*

[slim lintel]

what gpu cpu you got

[wooden ridge]

bruh idk i play this game on an imac

i just bootcamp windows

[slim lintel]

[pearl eagle]

I love the way Cabbage is still protective of his strats

[wooden ridge]

this game is high lmao. totally not 3 mins

[wooden vortex]

"yeah I got a sub 3"

Lmao

[cyan stratus]

🤔

[woven estuary]

if I were to bet, it's actually like 2:59.999 or something stupid, which is rounded to 2:60 on the display

[wooden vortex]

Yeah the timer is accurate to the millisecond but only displays to 1/100th of a second

[cyan stratus]

@pearl eagle whats ur mult time

[pearl eagle]

Haven't done a run yet. Haven't felt like doing any yet. Might do some later tonight

[cyan stratus]

hmm what are you waiting for 🙃

[wooden ridge]

this fucking overloading wisp keeps wandering away from the uke procs ruining my merc times

i can get sub 3 if that fucking wisp just stays put

[wooden vortex]

Yeah I have no idea how Merc does it lol

The wisps just wander away when you get close

[cyan stratus]

ur using turret right

if they target turret its ez

[wooden vortex]

Only had a friend I watched play merc

Never did it myself

[wooden ridge]

yea i just want to beat my time

which is currently 3:01.33

anyone know if there are any better "legit" merc times?

[wooden vortex]

As far as I know nothing faster that's verified

[solar void]

i found a way to do S1 like 5 -10 sec slower BUT with 2 gunner drones as merc

i duno if that maths as better or worse... still playin

i also use OBS

[wooden ridge]

i usually leave s1 around 1:40 ish

like 1:40-45

my issue is getting the wisps grouped up for uke procs

[solar void]

yeh

[pale yarrow]

not having any trouble with keeping them grouped, by the time i trigger the boss fight i only have 75% health, so annoying

[wooden ridge]

like one wrong dash into a wisps mean it goes flying to the other side

i might just stop dashing

[pale yarrow]

you're using mul-t right?

[wooden ridge]

no merc

[pale yarrow]

ah i see

i cant seem to use him for the life of me, even tried practicing with him on drizzle and no luck

[wooden ridge]

oof

[pale yarrow]

at first i only liked commando, good overall character, then started playing engin, then artificer and now getting better with mul-t

[cyan stratus]

[wooden ridge]

[pearl eagle]

[wooden ridge]

character leaderboards when

[slim lintel]

if there isn't char leaderboards in the june update hopoo doesn't love us

[wooden vortex]

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[wooden ridge]

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[cyan stratus]

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i think hopoo forgot trials exist feelsbadman

[pale yarrow]

sub 100 and sub 4 minutes, ill take that from 5:08

[solar void]

found a better floor 1 strat for merc, trying to get my floor 2 down so the time looks good 😛

then ill share

[wooden ridge]

how is there a better strat hm....

you going for the crit glasses?

[solar void]

leme beat you for once first!

[cyan stratus]

just did 1 merc run for fun and got 3:10, what are the top times looking like?

i dont know what the route is i just kinda went for it

[solar void]

thats about right

3:01 is best right now, i think i found a better one but keep messing up

[cyan stratus]

oh what

im only 9sec behind

[solar void]

this one is super linear

almost no good items on 1st floor

and crit item seems like a no brainer on 2nd

[wooden ridge]

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i also cant beat my time idk how tf i did it that fast tbh

[cyan stratus]

oh wow i tried again and got wrecked by the wisps

guess i got lucky or something

[wooden ridge]

yea the wisps are a bitch

[cyan stratus]

3rd run got 3:09

[solar void]

1st boss ocasionally fl;ies up so high you cant reach him without chaining dash on 3 wisps

[cyan stratus]

just stand on top of him tbh

[wooden ridge]

^

[solar void]

sometimes i fall off...

😦

[wooden ridge]

i wish i could record and show what i do

but recording software for me rn is poopoo

[cyan stratus]

just got 2:49 as merc

that good ?

[wooden ridge]

yea what route wtf??

maybe im doing s1 wrong

[solar void]

leme be top for 1 sec please, thanks 😛

[wooden ridge]

@cyan stratus what was your route on s1?

[cyan stratus]

i kill 3 crystals and then the jellyfish

[wooden ridge]

no items?

[cyan stratus]

why tf would i grab items