got any cheese 👀 ?
#prismatic-trials
nimble veldt
white frost
Espen: If you just wanna win you could buy the two prototype drones and they'll win for you
slim lintel
they're always 2 stages
vast timber
so many choked sub 2:20 runs from these wisps man
nimble veldt
x_x how can you kill the golem swarm so fast
vast timber
preon + arti ice wall execute
nimble veldt
oh there's preon
vast timber
si
nimble veldt
where is it then
vast timber
In the crates
nimble veldt
if you could please tell me*
vast timber
timed chest
nimble veldt
okok thx
white frost
The timed chest and a second one in a capsule just outside the timed chest container
white frost
What do you guys figure the Wake of Vulture fix will involve?
they also mentioned buffing non-blazing elites
I think the shield is going to be 50% extra for both players and actual elites
zenith plinth
does the current trial have hermit crabs in it
rancid swift
The second stage IS abyssal depths, but I didn't notice any hermit crabs
white frost
there's hermit crabs but it's not exactly in a level where you can chase them off
still nebula
I do not understand this Prismatic Trial thing
sick quarry
Just complete it as fast as you can, you're tested on your speed
still nebula
I know that, I can't even complete it
sick quarry
Why not?
sick quarry
OH hahaha, yea it was tough the first time for me too because I'm a player who relies on speed. I didnt have any speed items at first. Honestly you just kinda get used to it. I recommend playing with the engineer if you have him
white frost
I like the trials because even if they're a bit harder than the base game, you can practice them
you know what's coming, and can prepare accordingly
slim lintel
mult and artificer are good, its all about routing
white frost
in the case of this one, the first level has two prototype drones, so if all you want to do is win and not worry about time, you can farm gold for them
Did you guys see the speedrunning thread on steam?
Apparently people go from start to celestial portal on drizzle
the dominant strategy seems to be editing your savefile to only have good items unlocked and use merc because he has all the mobility and teleporter times means combat effectiveness is irrelevant
I can't say I'm a fan
It's really just "restart until you get mobility items early and lucky teleporter locations: the game (also 7 minutes of the run, aka more than half the time, is irrelevant)"
vast timber
You cannot edit the default items out
Only the achievement locked ones. Also by doing that you are only locking 2 whites you would normally have when unlocking Merc. Ap rounds and medkit, both of which wouldn’t affect wax quail odds
white frost
but they do affect energy drink/hoof odds
vast timber
Barely noticeable imo. And artifact command from the previous game literally let u choose loot
proper flume
It's so minor that it essentially doesn't matter. Same sort of save editing was allowed for speedrunning ror1 also
white frost
which isn't quite as fast as getting a lucky run because you have to control a menu
vast timber
Considering you are time locked by the tele charge it makes no difference
white frost
well
not like you can open most chests during the tele, but it certainly is no biggie on the greens
vast timber
Generally you get 0-2 chests and boss gives you enough for almost 2
white frost
all of that pales compared to getting a lucky seed with good teleporter locations combined with good items
vast timber
Yep, nature of a rogue like
proper flume
Honestly, kinda hate the whole tele charge system in this game anyways. Being forced to be in the circle and being locked out of any items outside of it
if your sole objective is speed
white frost
in normal play it's basically a way to balance out commando the way I see it
but in a speedrun it's locking half the run to what amounts to a cutscene
on drizzle you're in danger of neither of death nor spending more than a minute killing the boss
proper flume
you just kinda run in a circle for however long after killing the boss.
vast timber
Except for worms and hordes
vast timber
And late stage overlords
proper flume
especially when they decide not to target you
white frost
it's all just getting a lucky seed, yeah
sick glade
white frost
or more realistically inputting a lucky seed in the console and not recording at the moment
proper flume
they're all killable, just not always killable before the teleporter ends
vast timber
Worm is not killable in the tele charge time usually
As item starved Merc
All depends on what it’s ai decides to do
white frost
worm is kind of a bag of dicks, I look forward to whatever hopoo intends to do with him
vast timber
Segment please
white frost
yes please
he can fire homing blazing fireballs that shoot lasers for all I care as long as you can get that quick segment kill in
I dont' think any characters exist that wouldn't benefit from it
you wouldn't see anyone talk shit about phase shot if they saw a commando line up the entire worm with it
proper flume
merc would actually shred worm if he got segmented
clever orchid
vast timber
white frost
yup
crude fable
how many stages is this?
white frost
prismatics are always two levels long and as long as you hit the teleport at the same time you'll get the same boss, and if you don't take a portal you'll also get the same items in all chests, shrines, printers
crude fable
mmk
cyan swan
just a quick question, whats this "drizzle" people keep referring to?
calm cedar
easy mode, not applicable to pt's
cyan swan
ahhh okay
calm cedar
what's the time to beat?
white frost
I think current record is 2:23 with artificer
no seems to be 2:27.94 by @iforgotwho#0289
cursive tapir
Has anyone posted a video of this trial?
cursive tapir
Alright, Thanks
white frost
I've got a run with commando on recording but it's probably not too interesting to watch a run so long I got to fire preon twice
white frost
She's unmatched when it comes to raw initial damage, and all her skills have aoe
So when both bosses are hordes of many that just checks out
I suspect that without the preons the difference between Arty and MUL-T would be a lot bigger
cursive tapir
Wohoo!!! I did it 😄
calm cedar
good job buddy
ruby roost
that is my goal today
karmic swift
Hey.... I know its not great but Im happy 😃
verbal axle
Why would you do it without items anyway
It’s like crippling yourself for bragging rights
white frost
who's doing what without items
ruby roost
i'm so good at this.... cries
it would be neat to see character specific leaderboards
dark wagon
^ 💯
sudden shuttle
There should be specific characters for prismatic trials like slay the spire
white frost
Really does feel needed
There's just no way someone like commando has anything to do in a prismatic without survivor specific boards
Not sure it takes precedence over getting rid of cheaters, boards are fairly meaningless atm
And getting rid of cheaters is a fool's errand
idle willow
white frost
I still get a bit sad looking at my empty friends leaderboards
People who give a dang about prismatics are rare
I guess it's to be expected in a game about going as long as possible in a randomized run that a mode about going as quickly as possible in a predetermined run would be less looked upon
zenith plinth
This game mode sucks
slim lintel
nou
white frost
Patch is out
Shield cancels are gone
Pretty sure that makes the current prismatic record unbeatable
viscid swallow
What is exactly a prismatic trial ?
slim lintel
glad I got my time when I did, doesnt make it impossible but adds at least 15 seconds to it lol
frank trellis
how do you access this gamemode even
viscid swallow
@frank trellis
white frost
Bazaar time doesn't count up now, does this also mean for prismatics?
frank trellis
i see
white frost
Okay so for the new guys prismatic trials is a mode with a fixed seed that changes every 3 days
You get the same 2 levels with the same enemies, items and bosses
frank trellis
i don't think i even have the that button
white frost
Objective is beat it, preferably as fast as you can which is why there's a leaderboard
sudden wadi
how many stages there are in prismatic trials?
white frost
2
sudden wadi
I thought it would be like 4 since that's how long a normal run takes until a loop
white frost
I figure it's 2 because 5 minutes is a decent length for a quick play, and by only having 2 stages it's different from just a regular loop
Even with stages being out of order it'd have too much of the feel of just playing the regular game with 4
Second boss seems to always be an elite, so difficulty is sorta ramped up?
This honestly seems like something the game should be communicating. As it stands you just get a button that says "prismatic trial" and you don't get any indication of what that means
severe quiver
@frank trellis you may have unofficial modifications, which the game detects and then subsequently disables the option since it doesn't make sense to make it available
ruby roost
i'm just sad that the friend taht annoys me got it in half the amount of time on my second favorite character...
white frost
What's their time?
white frost
If it's any consolation I have half that again with commando
You really just need the time required to pick up the preon, get it the first teleporter and then 140 seconds for preon to cool down and kill the second boss
If it's also any consolation my first run was 25 minutes
ruby roost
T.T you a nice b o y e
white frost
Just saying if commando can do it, so can you with whichever your favourite is
cyan stratus
@white frost nice time you got there 👀
white frost
Tyty
I know it's nothing compared to you robot dudes and floaty mages but I'm not sure you could get particularly faster with Slowmando either
Sub 4 might be done with a crit preon and some really tight long shots on the crystals I think
But I cba
cyan stratus
i gave commando a try and died to burning wisp at ~4:10
so probably would've been a 4:40 or something lol
idk how to play commando
white frost
That'd the story of most my commando attempts
I've figured best way to take out crystals is potshots with phase shot
Especially if you can be an amazing psychic and get them through walls
Phase shot doesn't lose damage over distance so it's very reliable
cyan stratus
yea atleast commando is fun to play
white frost
You can also just fart them out between sprinting
cyan stratus
zzzzzz
white frost
Double tap is a waste most of the time because it slows you down
white frost
Yeah suppressive fire you use then roll then sprint
pallid stump
Are prismatic trials a set difficulty?
cyan stratus
yes
white frost
Double tap is the basic attack
pallid stump
Rainstorm?
cyan stratus
yes
pallid stump
Thanks
white frost
Feels like rainstorm but second level always has an elite boss
pallid stump
I wish it were monsoon for the achievement
white frost
If you want to get a good commando time there's a fuel cell sold beyond the teleporter
If you get the clover you have a 2% chance of crit and that just murders the golems
Gives you time next stage to kill the crystals, buy the fuel cell, have the second charge ready faster
chilly trout
anyone have a video for arti i can take a look my first time doing the trial
white frost
https://youtu.be/Hij-fM3F5iA not mine
dull orchid
thats the one i used to do it
white frost
After the patch the shield cancel won't work anymore but the video remains impressive
cyan stratus
wait that's the wrong video, it has arti in it
chilly trout
LMAO
cyan stratus
someone could've warned me, i almost fell asleep
chilly trout
oops caps
cyan stratus
its ok, dont apologize, u play arti so im used to it
chilly trout
wtf
the teleporter had to finish after the boss
it didn't complete right after i beat it
olive carbon
yes it seems like a bug occur in prismatic trials with arti the teleporter event get stuck after you complete it
chilly trout
of course
chilly trout
no i haven't
cyan stratus
give him a try
white frost
Whaaat they broke prismatics?
cyan stratus
you will feel your iq start to increase slowly as you grasp the complexity of the character
vast timber
So now with overloaded elite buff, hows the run
cyan stratus
i bet arti sucks now lol
white frost
I'm gonna have to try to patch before I sleep
Gonna go for deicide with fartyfacer and it's gonna go great
cyan stratus
why not 
?
white frost
Patch didn't change him so there's nothing to try out
I wanna try fartyfacer and the new special effects for slowmando
white frost
Oh right
vast timber
What does that change exactly
white frost
Oh if you had your item on cool down
vast timber
Yeah ik
white frost
ND you picked up a second item
white frost
That second item would be on cool down and it was garbage
vast timber
Its not like you use your preon before picking up the 2nd right?
so wat does that do
chilly trout
so i can't complete the trial with arti
the tp just stays at 99%
every run i've had so far
dull orchid
i did it wiht arti
cyan stratus
and you're only supposed to use mult for trials so it makes sense
chilly trout
lol so now he can't do trials at all anymore
severe quiver
it's probably a bug related to snapfreeze kills that we're working on
white frost
OH SHIT that's why they gave flame bolt shitty proic
the fire from flame bolt itself is affected
chilly trout
ah makes sense
cyan stratus
lmao it all makes sense now
white frost
fire burns way more now
chilly trout
yeah burns stack instead of just 3 burn dmg the whole time
cyan stratus
has anyone added char specific leaderboards to the suggestions yet?
chilly trout
yes we have
slim lintel
Why is snapfreeze such a buggy mess, refuses to kill enemies under the threshold even after the changes and now it screws up the tele
crystal trench
art dead? :(
slim lintel
just played some loops as arti she feels way better there now
slim lintel
the overloading change added a hefty amount of time to the current trial
crystal trench
o she just broke in prismatic?
crystal trench
did overloading change remove shield ignoring
chilly trout
yeah can't finish the tp if you kill an enemy with snapfreeze
slim lintel
I didnt get any of those
chilly trout
also shield thing is fixed
slender pagoda
so uh
just did a really, really dumb cheesefest of a trial run involving activating the bigass drone and then running away so my turrets and said bigass drone could draw aggro
except when the boss got defeated, the teleporter got insta-charged?
which helped shave quite a bit of time off but I can't help but feel that this isn't intended behavior
slim lintel
They really need to add info about what prismatic trials are all about
slim lintel
trials are all about how fast you can do them. generally only pick up 1-3 items the whole run
crystal trench
trials r for going fast, artificial time increase feels bad in it so they don't have it
except with art bug right now lmao
slim lintel
oh well I already had top arti time/top time so I don't need to do it
unless they reset leaderboard because the overloading change
cyan stratus
yeah ur too scared to try after the patch lol gotem cant cheese the wisps anymore
slim lintel
not so much the shield on the wisps as the teleporter not charging lol
cyan stratus
yeah i agree arti is the problem in general
chilly trout
yeah the tp is broken
cyan stratus
maybe try playing mult? heard he's pretty good for this trial
crystal trench
is cabbage serious or meme
chilly trout
he's a meme
slim lintel
cabbage is memer
crystal trench
o ok
slim lintel
he can't handle a work of art
crystal trench
merc is only true character anyways tho so it's ok
cyan stratus
crystal trench
slim lintel
cyan stratus
even looks asleep lol ^
crystal trench
tbh i just want loader back thanks
slim lintel
🥚 spot the difference
crystal trench
one is part of a balanced breakfast
cyan stratus
^ higher iq
cyan stratus
lol try beating my time post patch
cyan stratus
oh wait
slim lintel
I will if they fix the tele
crystal trench
yo iforgotwho
cyan stratus
sounds like an excuse to me
slim lintel
commando is dank
actually, huntress is pretty dank this trial
I can do stage1 in less or equal time as arti
crystal trench
pretty sure commando is better than ppl think
nobody likes him though
definitely potential for big boy runs
chilly trout
yeah everyone think his m2 is weak
slim lintel
commando is really good but needs items, he scales like crazy in base game. Trials don't let him get there though
chilly trout
but it literally goes through anything
white frost
so looks like snapfreeze is bugged
if it kills something, you don't get gold for it
this is most likely the source of your teleport bug as well
crystal trench
wait zunts it goes through walls?
commando is insane, I'm gonna go shit all over trials with him soon
alpine fog
is there any plan to make trials longer? When i first did one i was assuming it would be like fasted time to obliterate, and thats how you'd win. So it seemed really dissapointing that it ends on the second teleporter
white frost
the description on the character select even mentions it going through walls
cyan stratus
you can make trials longer by running some laps around the stages
should give you a pretty nice 30min time
alpine fog
what makes commando so good? to me he just feels weaker than everyone else
crystal trench
I had one run of him and didn't bother reading lol
cyan stratus
commando has a gun
crystal trench
commando does decent damage without items, has low cd mobility, can crystal jump unlike merc, shoots thru walls
fallow breach
whats your PB cabbage
alpine fog
crystal jump?
crystal trench
in theory he's insane
cyan stratus
2:49.43 but i used
drowsy jetty
boosting off crystal explosion
crystal trench
just gotta see if i can pull it off
fallow breach
and MulT is slower?
alpine fog
also his damamge without items feels pretty bad to me compared to engi huntress and artificer
cyan stratus
and nobody bothers to get a faster mult time so i dont bother improving
yeah mult is worst character but requires skill so i accept the challenge of playing him
crystal trench
yo keep in mind cep pt vs normal is a different beast
fallow breach
ill chalenge you ez
cyan stratus
lol go for it
alpine fog
ohh i forgot i was in the pt chat lol
white frost
the main deal with commando is he has a high rate of fire for the range he can reach
crystal trench
commando is crazy good scaling and he's ignored cuz he's lame
in pt I'm pretty sure he's crazy good if you're also good
white frost
he can also spread stun around with his special which is nice sometimes
fallow breach
he aint thicc like huntress so whats the point
alpine fog
yeah ive had some insane runs with him after getting a ton of items but in the beginning its pretty meh
white frost
the roll feels a bit limited for what it is
I'm used to EDF where spamming roll is the only way to move
alpine fog
yeah the roll i think needs some love with the transition to 2d to 3d
fallow breach
when he rolls
white frost
where in the roll are those iframes
it's not in the beginning, middle, or end so where is it
fallow breach
I've played him like 10 times total, all I know is that his roll dodges damage from the jellyfish and huntress dont
white frost
dusky wadi
burning?
white frost
no it was a regular-ass titan
white frost
it wasn't unlucky, I ate that laser specifically to check where iframes are
current answer seems to be nowhere
drowsy jetty
only merc r has iframes (technically untargettable, not invincible)
white frost
in the roll, I take laser ticks at the beginning, middle, and end
as you can see from the healthbar going down and damage numbers popping up
it's a good dodgemove and I don't dispute that, but iframes are not the reason for it
slim lintel
I don't see commando's M2 shooting through terrain being all that useful in PT
maybe a little but wont be a huge game changer
white frost
You don't see the use in hitting crystals without having to move to spots with line of sight?
You'd have to practice which spots to shoot at but that's nothing
He's not gonna win any world records with it, but I can't imagine it not being key to getting the commando-specific record
fallow breach
welp i killed the golems then died
classic first stage for me as mult, maybe I'll go learn the artificer route
slim lintel
it doesn't do that much damage, you'd still have to turn to face it, know the exact spot and stop sprinting to use it and it would take lord knows how many of those to destroy a crystal
white frost
Yeah it's like 5 I think it sucks
Rebar is super unfair in comparison
Hits instantly and hurts harder
fallow breach
holy fuck artificer kills golems so quick what
slim lintel
🦀 mult requires precision and high iq 🦀
drowsy jetty
proc coeff effects the burn dmg, so the buff did lots
slim lintel
^
white frost
27 damage. How much health on a crystal?
slim lintel
I wanna say 200 or 250
white frost
200 sounds right
slim lintel
so like 8 m2's until you level up lol
white frost
Commando why are you making it so hard to like you
slim lintel
I really like him base game and somewhat agree with what they said about sfx/vfx but he booty in PT
He just starts out as a snorefest
white frost
I think game should start with four characters unlocked from the get go
chilly trout
I think it's fine some characters are really easy to unlock
white frost
My standpoint is if four pals get the game and play together it'd just be lame to quadruple up on the same class
And three of the character unlocks are just dumb busy work anyway
chilly trout
i have 1 more achievement left
white frost
I'm missing deicide and the 5 lunars because I haven't bothered
chilly trout
defeat an elite boos on monsoon
white frost
Deicide
drowsy jetty
elite wisps are not bosses, even if the teleporter spawns them. they need to be actual bosses, not mobs
chilly trout
i killed wisps that had electric and it didn't count
see i knew it
so titans and beatles and jelly fish
drowsy jetty
overloading worms are their own entity -- worms in general dont spawn as elites in regular gameplay (outside prismatic)
people with mods have spawned blazing overloading worms iirc, and there was a prismatic with a blazing magma worm
aurelionite probably doesnt count as elite either
slim lintel
I swear I got it off wisps 
maybe it was a blazing titan
chilly trout
I've been playing quickplay with item share on
open wagon
Hey
If a blue orb appears, doing a pris trial, are the contents of the shop the same?
Time now stops when you go to the bazaar, so, that could mean if that's the case still for pris-trials, to get the best time you might need even more rng to get a blue orb to appear and to get the shaped glass item if it spawns. =A =
slim lintel
if theres a blue portal in the PT it will always be there 100% of the time
and the items would be the same in it every single time
pearl eagle
Current wr is unbeatable cuz of the patch right? Can't imagine it being beaten without stage 2 boss at ~66% hp
open wagon
I see
cyan stratus
yes
cyan stratus
dang
chilly trout
just patched
cyan stratus
couldn't last forever lol
someone go beat my mult time post patch lol
bet u cant do anything without overloading glitch
slim lintel
BOI you used the overloading glitch too
cyan stratus
preon 1taps both no matter the hp my guy
slim lintel
I don't have anything to prove, I already whooped your butt
cyan stratus
lol you needed to use a glitch to beat my time
slim lintel
mult is a glitch
slim lintel
you sure talk about my brain and iq a lot, is that your kink?
cyan stratus
just low hanging fruit
slim lintel
I got a couple low hanging fruit right here buddy
cyan stratus
yea lol i guess arti needs those w/only mobility being crystal jumping
scuffed character
slim lintel
tfw you have to double preon to get a decent time
woeful sparrow
anyone else having trouble with deicide?
i swear ive done it multiple times now but it still doesnt count
nimble veldt
arti is broken now? 👀
slim lintel
arti was broken but was quickly fixed because hopoo loves arti and hates mult
cyan stratus
i cant deny that
soft brook
devs always hate the best characters because it makes the game hard to balance
did the patch do anything crazy to prismatic trials? havent been on for a few days
slim lintel
nope, other than the arti thing they fixed and the fix for shielded enemies
cyan stratus
arti is bad character that relies on specific situations to do anything
slim lintel
killing enemies with the freeze at the tele made the tele freeze
arti is crazy op now that they fixed the coefficient
pearl eagle
They fixed proc chance? That's actually kinda pog
nimble veldt
ik i'm at trials channel dood, but they buffed him ,isnt't that relevant for this chat 🤔
cyan stratus
was talking to the guy asking about the achievement
nimble veldt
oh i apologize )':
soft brook
yeah its pretty insane amount to, went from .2 to 1 on her fireball
cyan stratus
its ok, have you been playing too much arti? happens sometimes
slim lintel
fireball from 0.2 to 1, icewall from 0 to 1
soft brook
^ its pretty cool that the ice wall procs stuff now tbh
slim lintel
yeah idk why it didnt before
and how they managed to ship that character out with a lower proc rate on their 4 m1's than mult's nailgun I will never understand
tulip pecan
What character do yall think is the best for the trials?
wanton ruin
i personally like huntress for trials because you can put her R on crystals at a distance and it will destroy them, otherwise i just enjoy her kit and design.
drowsy jetty
mult/arti are your best bet for fast time
wanton ruin
yeah i would imagine arti is very good too
cyan stratus
mult is the best character objectively because if you play arti you have a high chance of falling asleep which means your time will be slow
drowsy jetty
merc is the best character objectively because theyre the most fun and you activate hyperspeed mode, and dash to the next level without even using the teleporter
cyan stratus
can you speak up a bit, i cant hear you all the way up there trying to kill that wisp lmao
thorn swan
Hunt is my fav if you route your path
formal prism
I just played default boy, got the $500 bot and that carried me through if youre just trying to get the achievement
cyan stratus
why didn't you play mul-t? heard he's good for these trials
i was able to beat it easily using mul-t
empty pilot
mul-t is lame, change my mind
cyan stratus
post-patch, is ur mind changed yet
would love to see an arti get this time after the overloading wisp buff lol
empty pilot
i mean i'm not particularly pro-arti (cool concept but boy howdy having zero movement feels real bad) but sure nice time, personally i'm a commando boi
on the other hand, if arti could rocket jump with nanobomb i might become a fan
open wagon
Arti sorta can
cyan stratus
@pearl eagle 👀
hidden spoke
@cyan stratus the duality of man
cyan stratus
?
hidden spoke
trash talks arti for like 7 messages straight
"would love to see an arti get this time after the overloading wisp buff lol"
challenge accepted
cyan stratus
do it
drowsy jetty
technically they didnt get the "time" specified
drowsy jetty
no
cat the bunny didnt get a 2:41.62 with arti so he didnt match your time, as you said you wouldve "loved to see"
hidden spoke
hue
cyan stratus
i haven't seen any arti runs after the patch
i dont actually know if arti has a good clearspeed
with the buffs and w/e i wouldn't be surprised if it's still faster than mult lol
slim lintel
arti's overall damage was buffed a good bit
spare burrow
I just got a 3:41, came here to check my time to you guys. realized I am slow af
slim lintel
what char?
white frost
better than my 4:25 with commando
quiet girder
broken pagoda
how many stages are in the trials?
broken pagoda
I'm not trying to do a speed run, but I just want the unlock, any tips?
white frost
first mission has 2 preon accumulators and prototype drones
farm 1000 gold for the drones and they'll win for you
but really just reaching level 4 or so and using the preon is plenty
broken pagoda
okay, I'll try that, any character I should go with?
white frost
engineer is a good safe choice, but any one that's your favourite should be fine
broken pagoda
okay thanks
white frost
Good luck!
broken pagoda
just need to find that preon
white frost
it's in the container, you start the mission looking at it
a bit in front of that container is a regular capsule that also has a preon
broken pagoda
oh okay cool lol totally walked right past it
white frost
using MUL-T you can pick up both
broken pagoda
oooh will think about that thanks
white frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWzTg0iI7ug here's my commando run, it shows the preon
slim lintel
no one cares about your mult runs
white frost
I worry next trial will be back to just MUL-T again
cyan stratus
cyan stratus
chance for glitch
obtuse salmon
i dont know why but my drones are bugged on stage 2. one is completly missing and the second one doesnt move
._.
white frost
oh
that's drones for you i guess
I had the fortunate experience of having both my drones pile onto the bosses and wreck them in seconds
did anyone check if prismatic trial times are stopped in the bazaar?
it seems like a change that heavily favours going to the bazaar since you can stock up on items without time ticking if that's the case, even if newts can sometimes be slightly out of the way
slim lintel
shaped glass will be huge for trials, I may have to edit a certain file if they do that
white frost
is it a note telling you to git gudd at speedrunning the celestial portal
celestial portal speedrunners don't seem to mind editing the savefile so I guess there's no reason for prismatic trial runners to have any qualms about it either
cyan stratus
is editing the damage values next
white frost
right? it feels a bit slippery slope to me
slim lintel
nah thats dumb, but having to use a currency in a speedrun is also dumb
white frost
I think prismatics should give you a stock of 3 coins per run
divorced from the main game, like the rest of prismatics
slim lintel
something like that would be a good compromise
white frost
3 coins is enough for a newt and one bazaar item
slim lintel
or let you gain a lunar coin every time you complete a trial
obtuse salmon
this prismatic trial is bugged as fuck. my protoype drones always bug out
white frost
but all that depends on prismatic time actually stopping in the bazaar, which I haven't heard anyone verify yet
but probably does
slim lintel
if it does in stock game 99% sure it will in pt
white frost
same
white frost
i'm at work what's your excuse
cyan stratus
i'm lazy
white frost
fair
obtuse salmon
i hope tomorrows trial wont be as shitty as this bugged shit :-)
cyan stratus
they not viable though
white frost
trial or not
cyan stratus
500gold isn't something you can grind fast
fallow geyser
i got rank 300 on trial! 😄
white frost
Nice!
cyan stratus
considering a large chunk of people below you are hackers, good job 🙃
peak gulch
@cyan stratus are you the guy?
cyan stratus
technically not, never beat that stupid dragon
peak gulch
so you merely want to be the guy?
cyan stratus
hmm no, i moved on to other games
peak gulch
at least you got the apple
peak gulch
wow I always thought they were apples
cyan stratus
of course not
manic burrow
white frost
that's what you use stun for yes
white frost
the dash also stun golems
normal relic
Whats the current route?
cyan stratus
depends on what character you play
cyan stratus
ok, time does not stop in lunar portals in the prismatic trial
crystal trench
this is about as far as I'm ever going to go
cyan stratus
hmm have you tried mul-t? heard he's pretty good for these trials
normal relic
cant mul-t just take 2 preons and gesture?
cyan stratus
why gesture?
white frost
oh interesting
yeah gesture is undeeded although it does also work for the off-hand equip
cyan stratus
im glad time doesnt stop, most trials would be hard lunar gated
@normal relic this is my current route, i dont grab the gesture https://youtu.be/MuUBxJOuImI
white frost
yeah I would hate to see that happen
zenith plinth
You have some pretty slick aim
white frost
you reach the wisps considerably less than 70 seconds after firing the first preon so a gesture would not help you at all yeah
zenith plinth
Those transport mode rebar shots are killing me
white frost
unless... you also got the fuel cell?
problem is you'll fire your preon the moment you get the gesture so
magic shuttle
@cyan stratus why didnt you use the knockback boost from the TimeCrystals when destroying them?
cyan stratus
mult gets knocked mostly upwards, and i decided it was only worth for 1st crystal stage2
s1 crystal 1 you lose time, crystal 2 maybe gain a bit but not noticable, crystal 3 lose time since you can go twds portal instead of standing on crystal
zenith plinth
What’s the trials??
warm acorn
Aight so question for trials. How exactly is one completed to unlock the scythe
normal relic
@warm acorn Trials consist of 2 Stages, beat both and it counts as finishing the trial.
thus unlockin' the scythe
warm acorn
Aight ty
cyan stratus
@zenith plinth which shots? most are pretty easy to do in a straight line, if you keep the mouse relatively still
wintry needle
arctic arrow
white frost
did you call yourself Hopoo
pearl eagle
Hopoo likes displaying his dominance
pearl eagle
It's just a bug, happens from time to time
pearl eagle
Iforgotwhos time of 2:27.xx i believe
full cloud
for 1st boss?
pearl eagle
After patch I asumed that was unbeatable because of the shield interrupt not being possible
full cloud
like actual time for killing the blazing golems
not the wisps
yeah then im like 10 years ahead of the game
pearl eagle
What? 2:27 after wisps
full cloud
got the blazing golems in like 9 seconds with huntress
2nd boss spawn was blazing imps
i died to brass contraption after i found a way to bug the imps so they stand still
white frost
I've gotten a crit preon on them but with commando so time was still mediocre
full cloud
i can upload vid if u want proof
cuz unless thats a rng preon and u cant line it up its how u get wr
pearl eagle
So you're saying you are able to go fast enough with huntress to get a different stage 2 boss?
pearl eagle
And it doesn't involve a crit preon?
pearl eagle
Sounds a bit too good to be true tbh without crit preon, doubt huntress has enough damage to kill golems fast enough
But if you figured out a way to do it I'm thoroughly intruiged
full cloud
yee
also if critting preon is possible then honestly just play till u get crit preon..
pearl eagle
Gl grinding 1/100, don't think anyone wants to do that
pearl eagle
Ah the clover
Still, far too low for me atleast
Having the previous trials be 1/10 is doable, but not 1/50
slim lintel
I played around with huntress and could consistently do stage one about as fast if not a little faster than arti
full cloud
is it worth wasting preon on golems with arti?
cuz u can almost reliable kite their lasers
cyan stratus
slim lintel
Well it was before the shield buff may be a different story now
white frost
Yeah 1/50 is shit I just like being pedantic/accurate
full cloud
well you cant minmax that hard on trials cuz itäs only for 3 days
full cloud
not even worth cuz only 3 hours left xd
cyan stratus
4
quaint jungle
When i spot Greater Wisps as artificer, i wanna end my life, esp at end game
slim lintel
they're easiest at endgame they just die and you have tons of speed and jumps
cyan stratus
they're pretty easy as mul-t, you should give him a try
slim lintel
keep your mult cult in #ror2-memes bucko
cyan stratus
slim lintel
tfw you load up the trial and instantly see the snow level
preon time
lolno I'm not bothering with this trial. Random ass running bison all over the place
slim lintel
have fun chasing braindead bison on 5 different levels of height that either run 500 miles away from the tele or just flat out hide
drowsy jetty
a literal overloading elite magma worm ?
drowsy jetty
also, if you stall long enough, could you force an overloading overloading worm?
cyan stratus
a what now
sinful urchin
the second tier of "easy" boss on the second stage is an overloading elder lemurian
a single elder
artificer is really good this trial because the two bosses are normal monsters
cyan stratus
zzzzz
sinful urchin
sinful urchin
beat my time by just short of 7 seconds hHHH
and somehow you went even faster than that
sinful urchin
i mean... arti is really relevant this trial
unique trellis
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grave scarab
cyan stratus
👀
sinful urchin
my route is ap rounds > three crystals > portal > leeching seed > teleport > crystal + 3 lemurians (why do they only give one gold each) > crystals > portal > win
cyan stratus
no preon? wtf
sinful urchin
there's a preon?
sinful urchin
dude i literally don't even know lol
i just used the ocular hud
i'll have a video up sometime soon
cyan stratus
i recorded my 2:43 but the run is very scuffed
when i feel like it i'll go for a better time
sinful urchin
you're gonna have to excuse the video quality if you're watching this within fifteen seconds of it uploading
cyan stratus
dw im not in a rush
fallow breach
I'm out of the next like 2 PT's as I'm on break from Uni 😭
cyan stratus
F
zenith plinth
Oh, @cyan stratus sorry for the late reply I just woke up, but the ones where you enter transport mode, then flick around behind you or to the side, they just look really neat and it's something I've never thought to try.
white frost
It's arctic base there's always a preon
cyan stratus
yea you keep moving in the direction you were going when in transport mode so you can shoot behind you
white frost
Because arctic base always has a timed chest and if you can't make it to it withing 10 minutes you're in trouble
plush knoll
this trial is mean for engi but im stubborn lmao
pretty sick artificer run @sinful urchin , too close at the end
sinful urchin
thank you!! i honestly thought i died that's why i just stopped moving LMAO
there's like three different boss fights there anyway so it was really unpredictable and i was over it at that point (i'm glad i realized i only had 5 health left)
http://puu.sh/DgntB/fc5fd612d8.jpg also are these just over 2 minute commandos legit?
i just got to the teleporter at about 45 seconds because i can't damage the crystals, let alone the bison
slim lintel
:^)
could prob get sub 2:10 pretty easy I got stuck on a weird edge
and ran in to a big lizard boi
white frost
sigh
this is the one where I only have MUL-T left
Cabbage what would you consider a non-shitty time for MUL-T
actually beating your time is out of the question but doing it in like 3:30 I just wouldn't be happy with, so I'm looking for a respectable goal I can pursue as a gamepad peasant
I'm gonna pretend anything sub 3 is great for now
honest plover
I don't know if I'm just disabled, but how do you beat the trials so quick with huntress
empty rover
lots of blinking
white frost
P R E O N
livid carbon
oof
brittle heron
unlock all characters speedrun
nevermind not doing it
first boss was blazing stone golems horde of many so they clearly dont want me to do it
white frost
Fuck me I should've done commando today
There's three clusters of crystals together you could easily line hjem up witth phase shot
cyan stratus
a good mult time is 2:40
i haven't bothered but that would be good
yea there's actually no way mult can compete with arti after the buff
white frost
not in 2x hordes of many that's for sure
I'm not having a particular amount of fun wit hthis one I'm gonna just leave it
cyan stratus
there's only 1?
white frost
oh are you not getting the overloaded lemurian in stage 2
cyan stratus
are there many
white frost
and the key with those and artificer is she can execute them while non horde of many you can not
cyan stratus
im starting to think i should just upload my runs even if they're bad
white frost
I skimped my exploration this time clearly
cyan stratus
someone didnt know there was a preon
cyan stratus
well im not home rn
but i can get mult time down to 230 with luck
i use hud for crit preon but if skip 11% chance
if i feel like grinding that idk
sinful urchin
that was me i am stupidly unaware of the preon lol
there are three bosses at the stage 2 teleporter:
sub 1:40 - five or six elite elder lemurians (obviously not as strong as the single one)
1:40-1:47ish - four blazing imps
1:48+ - overloading elder lemurian (very tough guy)
anyway i sank like two hours into this trial i probably won't do anything anymore, see you in a few days
white frost
Can even arti get there before 1:48
sinful urchin
yes i did it multiple times yesterday
cyan stratus
sinful urchin
i always hit the first teleporter around 34 seconds (any longer and the time starts spiraling out of control)
what happens after that depends on how quickly you can dps and execute the five bison (usually i have to use two walls (three walls means i'm taking too long)
with the wax quail you can just zoom towards the next teleporter and get there anywhere between 1:40 and 1:55 depending on how long it took you to clear the first teleporter
slim lintel
my 2:12 run I got the imps
slim lintel
solo only
Seems like they made the time it shows at the end screen be the time on the leaderboard now, didnt see a note about that. Also seems a bit tighter
cyan stratus
slim lintel
2:09.18 :^)
slim lintel
yeh end screen time is now leaderboard time they listened 
I've become a bison herding master
virgin robot times vs. chad times
cyan stratus
sorry i dont feel like playing wall building simulator
slim lintel
mad cuz char bad lol
cyan stratus
white frost
I noticed the clock seems to stop when you warp now
So that's why the clock time is the end time
It didn't use to stop
slim lintel
did you get sub 2 with merc?
dusk ether
dafuq is this seed. lol
cyan stratus
cyan stratus
sub 2 is free with arti
slim lintel
maybe if you crit preon and get a spicy crit R and M2
sub 1:50 is easy with mult idk what you're doing
cyan stratus
hmm show me
slim lintel
nah I'm a robophobe
cyan stratus
does this scare you
slim lintel
it makes me uncomfortable
cyan stratus
devout oar
mild thicket
Wrong chat LUL
odd roost
is every prismatic trial pretty much the same
like 2 stages each 3 crystals get preon and win
slim lintel
there was one that didnt have a preon
but yeah thats the general gist
this one you have to manipulate bison AI though
odd roost
i wish prismatic trials were completley different and maybe once they add artifcats each one has like 2 artifacts or something
like maybe theres a 3d printer on every level and its first to get 5 of a certain item or something
cyan stratus
????
slim lintel
there's already 2 custom rules for PT, start with 50 gold and random stage order. I'm sure they will add many more of the modifiers in the future along with different objectives
cyan stratus
they need character specific leaderboards
slim lintel
yas
cyan stratus
slim lintel
gotta weed out that dirty robot
slim lintel
got that bot out of the egg carton boi
cyan stratus
i dont want to be in the egg carton
slim lintel
dont worry, another trial with a wandering vagrant will come along and robo will be king again
cyan stratus
too bad to kill a jellyfish lol gotem
slim lintel
tfw teleporter spawns your quail way up on top of the shipping container ruining a perfect bison fight
round stratus
What's the current WR for PT?
i'm at 4:18 arti and can't get any faster
also, is it me or does it seem to be giving people 2 seeds dependent on whether or not you use newt? Like... When i use newt there are 2 crystals side-by-side, when i don't i have to snipe one cross map.
and tp is in 2 different locations. It's also given me 3 different bosses for 2nd half. Overloaded titan, Overloaded Magma worm, Overloaded Elder Lemurian
nimble veldt
WR usually is in between 2:00~2:30
slim lintel
I have 2:09 as arti, some rando has 2:08 on arti on the leaderboard but he's unknown if he's legit or not
cyan stratus
the 2nd map changes if you use the blue portal, and depending on what time you activate the teleporter the boss can be different
north oasis
After losing run after run to the overloading lemurian I finally got one fast enough for the imps instead. Feels good, probably going to settle for 2:58 'cuz I'm tired of lining up the bison for an accumulator shot lol
cyan stratus
why do you cheat to get a good time? sense of accomplishment? lol
i find it much more rewarding to actually try to get a legit time
but w/e floats your boat
rotund echo
congrats? lmao
slim lintel
sub 3 is extremely easy without cheats lol
white frost
Congrats on your 2:43 with commando
zenith plinth
walks in
immediately turn around and walks out
brittle heron
^ roleplaying
slim lintel
Oh sorry, don't remember ever seeing you in here. It's mostly been me and cabbage lately so I guess iforgotyou
nice time btw
I couldn't get imps to cooperate so I gave up trying to beat you
crystal trench
Am I a random
runic mulch
that's a pretty random question
brittle heron
@crystal trench yeah
tribal hamlet
im 590th place global this trial
hidden niche
I dont understand the goal of the trails. What are we trying to do?
cyan stratus
nimble veldt
you just try to be sonic, then they'll start giving away prizes at some point 🤷
when is next trial btw
👀
unique ermine
What could the rewards be? Maybe like special items?
white frost
VAC ban
pliant root
People actually cheat at Prismatic Trials? 
I never get people who cheat, all it does is make people ignore the in game leaderboards and go to external sites
its why us in the Zombies community use Zombies World Records
nimble veldt
||It's funny bc they don't even get rewards lul||
sage temple
“Top 10% will be rewarded with literally nothing”
hushed fox
ayy lmao 173
rancid moat
when are the prisamtic trails back on
cyan stratus
what
nimble veldt
yo, how do you get all the ox together 🤔
kinda hard to kill them if they'r all splitted
white frost
Be lucky, hit them all so they don't stand around like idiots, and use your stunning attacks wisely
white frost
Apparently there a ukulele on the stage
nimble veldt
what's current wr tho 🤔
cyan stratus
im 2:43
idle cape
bitter cloud
theres a preon on this trial?
bitter cloud
it hasnt
white frost
Then yeah it's in the container by the cliff you almost start by it
bitter cloud
how do you even do 2:08
cyan stratus
ez with broken character
slim lintel
step 1: play arti
step 2: go fast
cyan stratus
hard with skilled character
slim lintel
become the bison herding master and tickle them imps
vale terrace
i thought merc is the broken one lol
slim lintel
Dude stop putting mult and skill in the same sentence
cyan stratus
= skill
white frost
MUL-T is a bot
And you have to aim with him
So I'm pretty sure that makes him an aimbot
cyan stratus
no, that makes you the aimbot because you have to aim
white frost
cries in Dualshock
slim lintel
I gotta ask...why a controller?
white frost
Mostly just because I grew up on a console and find it comfy
But lately I've stopped having a choice in the matter
My three options are get arthritis, stop playing videogames, or use a controller
Two of those options are unrealistic
Noticed wrist pains last year and now I need a $350 specialized keyboard just to do my day job
So I were to grind for a decent MUL T time I'd have to make sure I have enough sick days left to take the next week off
And also I'm just not that good anyway
bitter cloud
ok ok, i see why arti is so good for the prismatic trials
i was previously using because i thought he did good damage, and had a sniper
but arti can basically do the same things but better, just with less movement and health
cyan stratus
traitor
bitter cloud
i know
but also, didnt realize what was considered low health by arti's utility skill
its like the last 25% or something?
toxic niche
wha? sub 4 is a thing?
bitter cloud
i hate these bison sometimes
the last one was hiding from me for about 45 seeconds
with 500 health
toxic niche
what's the fastest huntress time?
bitter cloud
and yeah sub 4 seems really doable
i got 4:26 and it seemed pretty messy
as huntress, i dont know what the fastest time would be
cyan stratus
slim lintel
ditch your robotic ways and join the arti gang
toxic niche
ok, 4:05 huntress now, gonna try sub 4