I saw someone say theres crit glasses where are those
#prismatic-trials
slim lintel
slim lintel
this whole trial is a mess, only one crystal worth jumping with. Items are all way too far out of the way
annoying to hit crystals
think I need more items, no way this flaming ass titan is going to die with this pathetic damage
meager ravine
God it feels like if you get hit once by titan at all you just kinda lose that run
no matter the move
slim lintel
idk why they would put a known bugged boss in to the trial
the one trial where they didnt give us a preon
the boss isnt killing me tbh, its the elder lumarian
titans are really abusable if you circle strafe right around their feet, they wont do laser beam 90% of the time and you auto dodge the fist aoe usually
meager ravine
hmm that strafe tip might just have solved all my issues, lemme try it
Oh I see that lemurian you mentioned...
192 hp left on titan...
sly totem
I just encoutered this in my first try at an prismatic trial, and i really dont want to do it again.
already posted on #gd1-nullified but i think its more relevant here cuz it was encountered on a prismatic trial
plush knoll
My friend has a time of 1:34.26 in the current trial and is in 14th place. Can you guys confirm if that's a cheated time or not? I just see no way that's possible without any cheating/exploits.
slim lintel
unless thats 1 hour and 34 minutes theres no way
sly totem
There could be the possibily that the Celestial portal proc broke
but most likely is cheatingM
99%
plush knoll
pretty intensely disappointed in them, then - a few of my friends like to friendly compete on these and seeing their cheated times above ours kinda cheapens that a bit :/
is mul-t still the meta pick for this one like usual (so far)?
plush knoll
any hidden item chests or really crucial items I should be looking out for?
cyan stratus
yeah that time's cheated. and i got a 2:59.xx with mult but idk
chilly trout
lol mult is literally the fastest character
cyan stratus
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livid vine
they nerfed his base movement speed
sure his mobility skill is still good but its got a cooldown
need to use it at the right areas
plush knoll
but he can snipe the objectives from farther away than any other hero and seems to have the overall best dps (even moreso because he's bulky enough to facetank and keep shooting where other classes might need to duck and weave)
at least, that's my understanding of it
i'm having trouble with surviving as mul-t currently but thats because I have no idea how to fight dunestriders
cyan stratus
yeah that explanation is about right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7I__rAqmVQ here is dunestrider fight
plush knoll
interesting strat, thanks
it is a bit annoying that mul-t automatically continues to sprint after using his mobility but other characters dont lol
ripe lantern
Have you seen a glacial boss in the prismatic runs yet? I haven't ran much of them, but trying to confirm dsome datamingin I did
To rephrase: Glacial bosses, any seed, did that happen?
fallow breach
There have only been uhm 6 trials? I don't think we have seen aglacial boss yet. We have however seen like...100% golem appearances I want to say
soft brook
dont compare yourself to cheaters
sharp cypress
I think there was one, I did one just out of boredom and I either got a glacial imp or clay dunestrider on the first level
i might be wrong though
brittle heron
lmao only took me 27 minutes to beat it legit with Merc
might have taken my time just a little bit
i mostly wanted the achievement
pearl eagle
@cyan stratus I won't be able to play for almost 2 weeks, so I'm going to miss out on atleast 3 trials ๐
pulsar oriole
Don't think any trials have been posible in 1.34
heavy junco
that is obvious
pulsar oriole
Yh just confirming for the guy
The earliest ones were doable sub 2 though
1.34 is almost plausible for a mult on trial 1
zenith plinth
The first trial took about 40 seconds
calm cedar
the very first prismatic trials top legit record was around 1:21
I believe my original time on Trial 1 was actually 1:34.70
Here's a decent look at the scoreboard for PT #1 before the cheats turned up
I can also discredit anyone attempting to tell me they got a 40 second PT #1 run because it was nigh impossible to actually get to the second map of the trial in under 40 seconds. The fastest time we were capable of reaching for a stage 1 transition was a 36 second warp out time and that was only possible with MUL-T because of the equipment drop glitch.
It's also presumed that the Artificer placed at number 2 was also cheating due to the sub 2min times only being possible thanks to the equipment drop glitch and the Lunar portal ending the run "glitch" being proven false
cunning relic
is there any point to these trials at the mo?
cyan stratus
besides the achievement, no
zenith plinth
trials in that time should be possible to be honest, with much luck and celestial portals.
calm cedar
so don't take the blue portal for this trial
the boss is Glacial Elder Lemurian
@zenith plinth what do you mean celestial portals?
cyan stratus
trials in what time?
calm cedar
i think he was suggesting PT's in 1:30 times should be possible but I also assume that they're not sure what PTs are
north fiber
just got 3:11
cyan stratus
did you fight titan at lv3 or 4?
north fiber
4
i was pretty close to 4 after 1st stage
only killed big lizard and the mobs near portal
slim lintel
hahaha...ha... died yet again to blazing stone titan and the death message is "Maybe try a different character" frik u game
timber grove
Is it not super boring to have it be the same items? Thats what I loved most about ROR1 speedrunning; every run was different...I was just surprised, prolly what single player is for but was hoping for a different type of grind for leaderboards I guess ๐ฆ
slim lintel
ok how are ya'll hitting level 4? I'm killing like 20 wisps and a few lumerians on stage one and am only getting half way through lvl 3
crystal trench
@timber grove seeded is fun because people are on the same playing field
there's also something to be said for regular speedruns, but pt is cool since we're truly equal barring character here
slim lintel
seeded is fun when its consistent and doesnt decide to change where the boss spawns/what boss it is for no reason on a good run
wooden light
last berry
it took me 3 minutes to get to the blazing inferno worm and i died q.q
was using merc
slim lintel
this trial feels like "We're about to nerf fire damage so lets make the PT players suffer before patch"
thin hearth
How do y'all beat the blazing magma worm with Huntress? Lol
sinful urchin
if you're fast enough you can fight a blazing stone titan instead
on the difficulty meter if you're faster than the third section of "easy" you will fight the titan instead
thin hearth
Oh thank you! Great job, that's good to know. I will try that. Instead of getting every item I'll try to "blaze" through lol
waxen steppe
this trial is wayyy harder
slim lintel
if I could live I'd be getting sub 3m on arti but idk if I have the patience to keep trying and live
oak rose
Ah so I'm not the only one who had problems with the worm.
It wasn't the fire damage so much that I minded, moreso the fact that the worm's fire trail remained on the ground instead of up with the worm itself.
cyan stratus
how you gonna kill the bosses as huntress
fallow breach
with my bow
i dont know how the bullets scale, but there is a second one that adds a few seconds
but maybe is worth it
loud otter
There's a possibility of randomness in prismatic trials. I had a trial where I got the electric jellyfish stage modifier when it should be the same every time.
fallow breach
the event happens occasionally for the stage
loud otter
I dont think the event should happen during trials is what im saying
fallow breach
yeah, the trials are the thing that the devs are worried the least about right now (Even though Hopoo said they are looking into an elegant solution to fishing for Preon crits)
it will be dealt with, but not soon probably
lit
cyan stratus
any new routes?
sonic hull
Any tips or routes for a Prismatic noob whos looking to get the challenge done?
sonic hull
Any more noob friendly runs?
sonic hull
Ive been going at it for 40 minutes and i've gotten wasted every time
cyan stratus
make sure you're lv4 when you fight 2nd boss
and only attack clay pot below 550hp when he's doing his up attack
sonic hull
Dunestrider keeps doing his heal attack for some reason
cyan stratus
dont get him below 550hp, wait until he goes up, then attack
then he doesnt do the heal
cyan stratus
np
woeful idol
sonic hull
if you run far away from it you can get out
abstract crest
whats wr atm?
tribal heron
lol
abstract crest
got vid of your record cabb?
cyan stratus
yea but not uploaded
i was gonna optimize later and upload a faster time
i have a 3:20 if you want
cyan stratus
if you stay close you dont get
white frost
Hey, @cyan stratus
cyan stratus
sup
white frost
Did a scouting video on the portal route
gonna encode it, and it features like 23 minutes of shitty play but I'm assuming footage of the route is worthwhile regardless
8 of the minutes is the first stage and can be skipped
cyan stratus
hmm i can just explore it myself
white frost
oh
cyan stratus
just wanted some input on whether it seemed viable or not
white frost
yeah it's hella viable
on the route between the start and the teleporter is the preon
and right by the teleporter is a lensmaker printer
cyan stratus
that means this devolves to crit preon again though
white frost
yeah sadly
cyan stratus
ok well sounds good, i might mess around with it if i feel like it
if you feel like breaking my wr then i'm forced to check it out
white frost
lensmaker printer means you can assure 100% but obviously printing 10 lensmakers on its own is a bit of a timewaste
cyan stratus
p sure the equation isn't additive
white frost
I have footage of a magma worm fight with 10 lensmakers that disagrees
I fire nailgun like mad and there isn't a single hit that's not critting
okay
so beat 3:20 is what I'm hearing?
cyan stratus
2:59.xx my pb
echo venture
Tougher times says +15% per stack in the item description but it doesn't actually stack like that all the way, pretty sure glasses are similar.
white frost
I would like to take this moment to say good bye to my lunar coins -_-
echo venture
In that 10 would give very high crit chance, but still not 100%
white frost
Formula for tougher times is y=1-1/(0.15x + 1)
so one tougher times is actually 13%, game is glossing over a lot in the description
if glasses were anything like that I should be getting considerably more non-crits than the 0 I was getting
Cabbage what's your splits? I'm gonna practice level 1 without involving the shrine so I can minimize my coin waste
grave bronze
Zeddy what happened to your lunar coins?
white frost
I'm about to dump them into the newt on the prismatic trial
grave bronze
gotcha
white frost
alright, thanks
I can tell there's no way this is happening with commando
Guess this is the trial where I do a MUL-T video
white frost
It's really hard to make it to the newt with MUL-T
white frost
yeah I know how to do it, just not consistently and quickly
maybe the soda can will help
I forgot that thing was there
soda can helped
there's no way I'm pulling it off, but I could see you or Alex doing this level 1 in route in 1:30
you've gotta jumpsnipe the final crystal
I'm a gamepad scrub so I can't
slim lintel
cabbage what time do you hit the 1st tele to leave
cyan stratus
like 1:30
slim lintel
as mult?
cyan stratus
yea
slim lintel
what items you pickup
cyan stratus
nrg, crit, ap bullet
slim lintel
nrg?
cyan stratus
drink
white frost
I got the first tele in 2:15 with Huntress
That's not going to be enough to beat your 2:59, but I would be able to best your 3:20
I did the route for visiting the newt without actually paying the newt, judt highlighting it to save coins and practice
Fun fact with Huntress: she can plant an arrow rain on a crystal and forget about it, the crystal will die from that alone
cyan stratus
yea i know about that w.huntress but there's no way burst dmg is enough to ever be viable imo
white frost
Not without a preon no
That's why killing the strider is taking me too long
But it gives her silly capacity to snipe crystals practically anywhere on the map with ease
cyan stratus
for some reason i cant seem to beat my suboptimal 2:59 so i'll upload it
white frost
I can't really beat 2:15 for split 1 with MUL-T either my hunters time is currently faster
cyan stratus
i have consistent 1:30, do you mean with newt altar?
white frost
Yes
white frost
Not that the newt altar is adding 45 seconds to my time or anything
Crit preon where every attempt costs a lunar, to boot
cyan stratus
yeah i think i'll pass unless you beat my wr
white frost
Naw
I'll just make a huntress video and call it a day
The spice must flow
If you use a printer once before the teleporter the printer won't lock
cyan stratus
if it's in range of the tp it doesn't
white frost
Oh is that the requirement
cyan stratus
yes
white frost
Is it unique to printers?
cyan stratus
no
cyan stratus
what kind of route are you doing to get 2:05 s1??
white frost
It's with the newt
cyan stratus
ok
white frost
I go for energy and critglasses with Huntress, then run for the newt, arrow rain the crystal, run for the tele, arrow rain the far crystal (i missed and had to take another shot but still got 2:05),pixk up some nearby items
Third arrow rain, activate, fight for dear life
If I get this route right I honestly think I have a shot at your record
white frost
The biggest problem is this dickbag elder Lemurian hanging around the lensmaker printer
If I print like 4 or 5 glasses the odds should be very reasonable
cyan stratus
but then you're losing time
white frost
Yeah I also don't have 5 items
This is going to be useless to your time since you're already below it but I activated at 3:18 and got a glacial elder Lemurian for the boss
cyan stratus
white frost
I ran out of lunars
So far it looked like I was into a 3:40 with Huntress
I never got a stage 1 as good as the 2:05 either
I'm getting less sure about the route being an improvement, especially ona. World record
MUL-T is so strong ok his own and just heading through the shop pisses away 15 seconds
Not to mention going for the newt
I'm at least moving faster than you are with my route
Small victories, huh?
With Huntress I can activate the teleporter at 0:55
brittle heron
Huntrass
white frost
You activate at 1:09 in tha video
Not sure why you're taking the long way around at all tbh
If it's for the AP bullet there's another one near the teleporter of you go slightly out of the way
white frost
I think dunestrider is literally immune to bleeding
I was going to combine the knife with ap rounds so the 2.4 damage would round up to 3 instead of down to 2 and that'd be a massive boost
This is really putting knives in a bad spot,, I don't think anything is immune to sticky bombs
white frost
I beat dunestrider in 1:50 with Huntress throgu getting an arrow rain crit and somehow cancelling the desperation move
I don't know how that works. He curled up, made the beep, and then just aborted
Titan is being a jerk, I think I need to farm lunars to beat this trial period
You can avoid the laser if you're close but it's a blazing titan so that's the one place you can't be
Looking at the footage, my best guess is that he gave up because nothing living was in range
echo venture
the AP near tele route is about the same time as his route.
Maybe shaves a few seconds if you're super efficient and get crits on crystals
I have a possible 2:40 or 2:50 route but you have to beat titan on lv3 and it's hard af.
white frost
Eugu
I need more oomph with the Huntress, is there a good damage item besides the tesla coil on level 2?
Wasting too much time circling lasers
cyan stratus
sticky bomb
white frost
oh yeah at the start
I think I need to farm lunars, that preon is Huntress best shot
timid pulsar
@foggy star
fallow breach
woah you cant just at that boi he's too busy making games
timid pulsar
I want to learn the speed
olive topaz
But dont ping devs =ะช
timid pulsar
or what? I get banned from server? boohoo
white frost
Yeah if you pray to a newt and take the portal the items in the next level changes
And one of those items is a preon right between the start and the teleporter
I think for any survivor besides MUL-T and Artificer the sheer damage that adds is going to be needed for the best time
zealous dove
Ooh, this trial is a great way to unlock the achievment for killing an elite boss on monsoon
tulip flume
But you can't change difficulty of prismatic trials...?
zealous dove
Really?
sick glade
white frost
That must be an impressive video
thin hearth
Hey y'all btw I eat the prismatic trial yesterday (my first time! Woot!) after much experimentation and playing it through a few times. In the second area I ran away with Huntress at the start to not get bogged down with the giant flame dinosaur and the Imps at the beginning, also I went back and activated the gunner turrets. This way when I faced the blazing magma worm I lured him back to the 2 turrets and I think they helped me kill him. Also you gotta outrun its trail of fire that springs up for no reason. Hope that helps!
*beat
white frost
Should anyone care
Oh yeah I guess I could lure things to the turret
That's not a bad tip ninja
thin hearth
Nice vid Zeddy! I like the music. Also looks like your comp is running it really smooth, nice. I constantly get frame drops though without too many enemies I hover around 30fps. Looks nice and smart move going for the energy drink first to speed up everything else.
white frost
Thanks!
I considered not going for the drink but 30% sprint speed is a lot on a character who is always sprinting
The glasses I also considered skipping but I noticed the strider taking way longer
Sometimes I'd crit arrowrain and it'd be a massive time save on strider too, but I'm not sure I ended up with any good crits in the final video
white frost
No, that kill is consistent, crit or not
misty sluice
Ahh alright. But ye, 10 % crit for a character with so many attack skills.
white frost
It's more that arrow rain crits the whole thing
So you either do double damage for all of arrow rain or none of it
A few other attacks work the same, like flamethrower and the shotgun burst on nailgun
misty sluice
Ahh , thought it was individual for each "bullet".
minor trail
For me the trail of fire turned out to be a blazing lemurian... underground? When I was leaping around an outcropping it shot out of the ground and there was no more bodiless fire.
plush raft
(:
zenith plinth
Oh is THAT what that was lol
harsh sundial
cyan stratus
i mean, if you edit your damage and speed values you also need to have an idea of what you're doing on top of that
if you have no idea how the game works and you're just kinda running around trying to kill stuff then idk
hey @white frost , nice run - does the huntress have enough burst damage to kill the dunestrider without doing its invulnerability attack? could shave off a lot of time
ohh i didn't know about those two items in 2nd stage, i might check out if those are any good
humble wave
hi
soft brook
@harsh sundial did you exploit or hack? thats an insane time
soft brook
thats what im sayin, why would he even bother coming here lmao
cyan stratus
anyways just got this
soft brook
is that all you changed?
cyan stratus
yea pretty much
soft brook
im still sitting on 3:31 from your first vid if you got that time maybe ill try a bit more damn
cyan stratus
did you watch my 2:59? i uploaded it
soft brook
just casually leeching your strats XD and yes i did
cyan stratus
lol dw it's all good, we all work together here
and i only had a windows notification saying my D drive was full pop up once
so good rng there
soft brook
im just saving the mega grind for when theres actual rewards
soft brook
hmmm...
cyan stratus
oh
i know what that means, i record my runs on that drive
that means my 2:51 run is corrupted :D
gotta go beat that time brb
soft brook
enjoy
i have so much unnecessary trouble on the fire titan i dont even know whats killing me half the time D:
soft brook
dude, what the hell is going on.. i just had like a 2:55 run and the boss died and i took 300 damage??
soft brook
i dont believe it hit me i usually pay very close attention to that
cyan stratus
yeah
soft brook
i dont even know if it matters much i think im just garbage against the fire titan XD
i just get absolutely rekt every time it dies i die with it
cyan stratus
ok maybe i upload a 2:49
soft brook
i wouldnt mind lmao
soft brook
thats nuts lol
cyan stratus
it's rng dependent though
sometimes the dragon gets stuck on the shrine of combat
you want it to run towards you
cyan stratus
yea
i decided to actually try to optimize a route instead of just going with my first intuition
i wish more people were actually trying, then there'd be more incentive
i miss the old days, with cat, green, ghost, hat kid etc
now it's just you and me :D
soft brook
and im terrible XD
slim lintel
I'll be back if the next trial is actually fun
cyan stratus
you mean when there's another crit preon
slim lintel
no i hated crit preon
cyan stratus
then what was fun about last trial ?
slim lintel
the elder lumerian kills me not him
pulsar oriole
how long till we get a trial mult isnt best in
cyan stratus
kill it at the start for lv4
slim lintel
I know how to abuse titans lol
cyan stratus
i figured out it's the same one at the start
it loops around to portal, so if you kill it at the start
slim lintel
really? I thought that one was stuck hard
cyan stratus
nope
i still don't know what it does, but it's the same one
and i don't feel like filming a nature documentary to figure out how it gets there
slim lintel
my current strat I still haven't gotten a kill with I just suck cube way down there while I'm fighting titan to keep him back for a bit, but its never long enough and he comes to ruin the day
cyan stratus
my mult strat should work for arti
there's nothing mult-specific that i do
i don't even facetank damage, you could do it without taking too much
slim lintel
except you have a mobility skill which allows you to actually pick up items
soft brook
oh you even skip the drink too?
cyan stratus
yea
soft brook
does the stone titan have an ability that makes rocks fall
i feel like im dying to something coming from above me
cyan stratus
those are the hermit crabs
or maybe it does, idk
i just know that if i keep circling and jumping the only threat is the imp and the lemurians
soft brook
i thought i was dying to those at first but it says im dying to the titen idek
so confused D:
cyan stratus
yeah i don't know what its attack is when it just raises its fist and kinda sits there
so it would make sense if it was rocks falling
hollow saddle
When you have the blazing magma worm on 10% hp, but you're playing huntress and he comes within a mile radius of you
soft brook
yeah idk man 20 runs died to the titan on the same spot literally just jumping in a circle next to him
just callin it bugged and im done with it ๐
fallow breach
your current route doesn't grab glasses or NRG drink? @cyan stratus
cyan stratus
yes
fallow breach
interesting
i tried last night
but i just kept dying to burning dot
so I gave up
plush raft
yes
calm cedar
whats the time to beat?
latent briar
im having a hard time killing the second boss with 2xAPR and healing drone on huntress
latent briar
whats the best way to destroy crystals with him?
latent briar
thanks(:
cyan stratus
alright so about 2/3 of the time the elder lemurian in s2 circles around the shrine of combat which loses time
so i'm pretty much done with trying to improve my pb unless someone beats it
soft brook
its dumb too because he seems stuck but if you start the boss he follows you still xD
cyan stratus
yeah lol
he somehow stops running in circles just to show up
i tried to see if skipping him was viable but nope
soft brook
same here i was hopeful it would be an insane time save T_T
im sure there is some chance that he stays stuck tbh but who knows how to do that
nimble veldt
yo new trial today?
slim lintel
shame zunts isnt really doing this trial either, a merry-go-lizard pic would be awesome
cyan stratus
@soft brook with my route, at least, you kill the dragon for lv4. so it wouldn't be a time save at all, you have to get lv4 some other way
@nimble veldt in about 23 hours, so depending on your time zone yes
and yeah zunts is MIA unfortunately, but i do have a video of it lol
fallow breach
best time going in
fucking lazer right off the bat zzz
yeah this PT just isnt worth my time wow
slim lintel
yep that blazing titan and his old lizard buddy burned away my will to live
soft brook
laser shouldnt be a problem almost always unless you're very unlucky. if you stay close and strafe around him you avoid that
its just that fire enemies are absurd currently so you get slightly tapped and youwither away like a little bitch
cyan stratus
i'm the only one who likes this trial?
the only issue is the dragon sometimes spinning around in circles and it's rng
slim lintel
it just isnt fun with arti and mult is just boring to me
soft brook
i like the trial im just confused as hell with why i die so much to the titan
cyan stratus
are you circling the titan like i do in my video?
remember the circle is leading but you can see it on the ground
soft brook
i do be is its not the circle
whatever happens near when i kill him, i always end up dying right as he goes down
snow mica
@cyan stratus how do you get a titan to spawn?
cyan stratus
activate teleporter fast enough
snow mica
ok
cyan stratus
i don't know the exact time constraint
snow mica
thanks
that makes it so much easier
@cyan stratus at 500 health or so the sand boss heals for me
how do i stop that
cyan stratus
follow my strat
what i do is wait until it does it's attack where it goes up before it's lower than 550 hpo
it heals at 550 hp but doesn't start the heal if it's already doing an attack
snow mica
ok
soft brook
you can manipulate dunestrider to go up in the air if you hop up on the rock and jump
it seems to activate when you reach a certain height, ive activated it on accident sometimes
white frost
Nice run, cabbage!
I don't know about bursting with Huntress but once or twice I managed to make him cancel out of it and that lead to sub 2 times for level 1
Unfortunately both of those runs I died next level from burn damage
This trial is hard
pale nymph
How long does it take to do a prismatic trial to get the achieve?
I keep putting it off
soft brook
fire enemies in general are hard theyre like the only threat in the game xD
and you can easily casually run a prismatic trial in less than 10 minutes
wanton helm
how does one complete this trial
snow mica
@wanton helm go MUL-T
just look at cabbages video
if you scroll up enough u will see it
cyan stratus
yea im on mobile, no link sorry
snow mica
@cyan stratus is there a specific way to dodge the sand guys attacks or do u just jump around on that spot and hope
wanton helm
im not really good at the game yet but i wil do
cyan stratus
they are leading
wanton helm
I feel like more enimies spawned for me than you lmao
soft brook
enemies can be rng sometimes but depending where you are at what time in the game enemies spawn differently
white frost
Fewer enemies spawn early in the game, so if you're slower you also get a more difficult time
As far as I've tested the same enemies will spawn at the same times, the only random factor is which location they spawn in
cyan stratus
^^^
snow mica
how do you take so little dmg on the titan
cyan stratus
just uhhhh
don't get hit
snow mica
lol
loud otter
This one is hard T_T
cyan stratus
yeah, wr is a full 30sec slower than last trial
cyan stratus
who ?
white frost
Aleksander Bakken
The guy who usually beats your times
Which I think was the least diplomatic way I could've referred to him
cyan stratus
yea he cant do the trials for a week or so, hes gone or w/e
แตโฟแต แถฆ แตสฐแถฆโฟแต สธแตแต แตแตแตโฟ แตสฐแต แตแตสธ สทสฐแต หกแตแตแถสฐแตหข แตสธ หขแตสณแตแตหข
slim lintel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJdiH8s21wo saw this in #ror-art-and-content thought it may have some use in PT
white frost
I dread when my MUL-T video is coming up because suddenly it'll be directly comparable to real speedrunners and therefore junk
calm cedar
any class that can use abilities to create shortcuts will only seriously challenge if they can also kill elite and non elite bosses with no items in a relatively fast time.
As far as I'm aware Merc can't do that
neither can commando, huntress or engi. Not as fast as mul-t and arti.
slim lintel
I don't really care about playing the best character to get the best possible time, I just want to play the character I like the best I can
white frost
You're not mistaken!
quiet bridge
white frost
Ohey that's pretty close to mine
Engineer should be easier to fight the boss with, but he can't dash and needs to get very close to crystals
If you want a really good time you're going to have to crystal boost and even then on the first stage at least one crystal will be pretty out of your way
I saw engineer times better than my Huntress time on the local board, so can definitely be done
Why would anyone cheat a 3:47?
pearl eagle
So how is this trial? As painful and antagonising as the previous one?
white frost
I feel like this is the worst one yet, unless i t's rolled over by now
you get to fight a blazing titan in the hellscape with no equippables to speak of
deft tree
Not to mention the cover in the area is about as limited as it gets, with only a teleporter and a 3d printer for solace from the RBOD (Red Beam of Death)
peak sphinx
damn a 4 hour game of risk
i want to be so good i can spend a whole afternoon just fucking up aliens on the hardest difficulties
cyan stratus
@pearl eagle it's really fun in my opinion, only 1 part is rng which kind of ruins the entire thing because it's beginning of stage 2 but there's no crit preon
pearl eagle
Sounds like stage 2 is painful tho with the boss, but no crit preon probably makes it ok compared to the previous one
cyan stratus
people go fight the boss at lv3 and complain about dying
there's a pretty small chance of death if you clean up a lemurian or 2 at lv4 while activating
pearl eagle
Oh that will def. help
Fighting the jelly in the previous trial was just not okay at lvl3
cyan stratus
yea
i have like 30sec wr though :( come back fast pls so you can beat me though
unless people just aren't posting their runs
pearl eagle
I might borrow my sisters computer for an hour or so just to get a time on the board
cyan stratus
lol do it
pearl eagle
But I doubt I'll beat you tho
cyan stratus
but does it have ror2 installed?
dude have you seen my wr video
it's actually a disgrace to all speedrunning
cyan stratus
pearl eagle
Do you know how long until the next trial starts? Might not have time if it's rolling over soon
soft brook
get rekt tbh ill counter it with a like
cyan stratus
probably someone tried my same strat
and then this happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M63zAlf5tyM
soft brook
oh maybe it was the guy that said PR* on the last one because you arent a hacker with -1,000,00 minutes
cyan stratus
oh that guy lol
maybe he finally snapped because i put 'wr' in another video
and he let out his pent up rage
soft brook
what a bold move from him
my favorite feeling in these trials is after you down the boss and click the teleporter and you are low hp getting sniped by the lemurians. that rush dodging all the fireballs and laserbeams with the risk of losing a good time unf adrenaline
soft brook
thats what made me think of it
slim lintel
jesus arti sucks, did almost the whole titan fight with stickybombs and didnt get a single stickybomb...hopoo pls hurry with that coefficient patch
yeah not even level 4 saves arti
cyan stratus
have you tried not getting hit
slim lintel
I dont get hit by the titan at all
slim lintel
well actually nvm I do because arti is shit and R slows you down so his projectiles he shoots from above his head all hit you and theres nothing you can do about it
slim lintel
also arti can't even consistantly kill the elder lumerian at the start because ice wall is a pos that doesnt like to do its one job
R is flamethrower
slim lintel
"time it between the attacks" ok he does that attack for about 20 seconds and arti is all about using all your shit off CD or you do absolutely nothing
slim lintel
snore-t I will remove from the game with mods as soon as its possible
cyan stratus
lmao at least i dont play a character that requires you to grind 10 lunar coins for a royal disappointment
slim lintel
lunar coins arent even hard to get, you play on dirzzle or smth
slim lintel
I can see how it would feel that way playing such a boring character 
cyan stratus
arti has 0 movement abilities, i bet u play while eating a sandwich or smth between the 90% downtime spent by just walking
go play walking sim or something
slim lintel
at least it has more depth than "walk up to boss holding m1 and press shift on CD"
slim lintel
uh..uh arti is thiccer than mul-t
cyan stratus
yea explains why so slow
slim lintel
You're just scared because if the stars align arti could actually beat mult in a trial
pearl eagle
Jesus, kids. Calm down would you
slim lintel
just meme-ing boyo
cyan stratus
lol just banter
pearl eagle
We all know huntress is thiccest
slim lintel
ok NOW THEMS FIGHTIN' WORDS
pearl eagle
๐
slim lintel
tbh arti could get a decent time this trial but inconsistencies with ice wall and a couple other things just make it too much of a hassle
cyan stratus
do those couple other things include ur brain
slim lintel
ye
white frost
Huntress may be thicc but not as thicc as engineer
I also think that if any class is going to give MUL-T a run for their money it would have to be artificer and a stage that's set up juuust right where any meaningful movement is made entirely in crystal boosts
white frost
oh I didn't mean to imply that
but like getting a preon is an equalizer in boss killing times, I'd think crystal boosts are a mobility equalizer
rustic girder
Hey guys! I'm launching a site that will be publishing guide, news, and mod related content for RoR2. While we're all playing the heck out of this game our team kinda lacks a prismatic trial specialist (no speedrunning exp) that can create guide content for each trial (maybe item maps, general strats, preferred chars). Would anyone here be interested in helping us out? If so please DM me and we can chat further.
cyan stratus
uhhh
trials expire after 3 days so those pages would be relatively useless
but if you want you can grab the video of my run
pearl eagle
The trials doesn't last very long, so making specific guides is probably going to be time consuming and not very helpful, but having a place to post runs or keep leaderboards would be nice
cyan stratus
^^
spiral pivot
@lean comet actually what would be incredibly useful is something like poe.lab for path of exile, a page that each time gives you the map and items of each prismatic trial
cyan stratus
yeah let's list every single item on the maps even though only 1-2 end up being useful ๐
pearl eagle
FeelsCrit+preonMan
polar grove
Who do most people usually even play in PTs?
cyan stratus
pearl eagle
For best time MUL-T is usually best
pine monolith
huntress
cyan stratus
u right
pine monolith
just got a 3:47 today
cyan stratus
someone got sub 1 as huntress, best character confirmed
pearl eagle
lmao
pine monolith
WTF, HOW THEY DO SUB 1 MINUTE
pearl eagle
Cheat engine
pine monolith
lame
cyan stratus
slim lintel
www .cheatengine . gov
cyan stratus
.gov
pine monolith
i hope ror2 teams up with VAC ๐
cyan stratus
but yeah 3:47 as huntress is pretty close to as fast as you're gonna get
mult you get 2:40 ez
slim lintel
๐ฆ vac will save us ๐ฆ
cyan stratus
๐ฆ no sub 34 for you
pine monolith
i think i could save off a couple seconds on the 2nd boss, ima try and aim for 3:40 by tomorrow
slim lintel
sub 34?
cyan stratus
๐ฆ
slim lintel
is that like rule 34
cyan stratus
๐ฆ 33.6 only with 60fps ๐ฆ
pearl eagle
lenny face
slim lintel
thats so 3~ days ago ugh
pearl eagle
6*
slim lintel
pine monolith
wait, you guys think Artificier character isnt the best either? i was disappointed when i unlocked him, needs a movement ability
cyan stratus
"artifact character" gotem
pearl eagle
Artificier would be dope if she had some mobility and some qol improvedments
slim lintel
the Mr. Jumpy trial was the closest, I think wr was 2:14 or 2:13 and I had 2:15
cyan stratus
maybe i'd actually play arti if the cross hair wasn't a hot mess
how tf do you aim m2
slim lintel
^ that frikin m2 crosshair
sprint charge and you get a ^ reticle that makes it way easier to aim
pine monolith
his R seems super powerful at least
pearl eagle
Draw a dot in the center of your monitor
cyan stratus
i guess they know arti players can't aim anyways, so they didn't bother with the crosshair
at least with mult the crosshair is geared towards players with skill
cyan stratus
mult takes the most aim
watch my pb, i snipe those wisps
also pls like and subscribe
slim lintel
now snipe 'em with a fireball that moves 1 foot per minute
cyan stratus
that's rng dependent though
slim lintel
once the coefficient is fixed I think arti will be a lot better. And if they ever buff flamethrowers range you mult's are gonna get smoked
getting an average of one stickybomb per titan attempt doesnt feel good
cyan stratus
relying on stickybomb for dmg lol
feelsbadman
i might actually be playing this trial if the dragon didn't ride the carousel of combat 1/2 of the time
cyan stratus
dude i actually can't believe how broken it is
how badly do you have to code the ai for it to run in circles
soft brook
my favorite is the tc280 since its so big it gets caught and just sits there til it dies
cyan stratus
wtf is a tc280
slim lintel
big worthless drone
soft brook
the big ass drone
cyan stratus
oh that garbage
slim lintel
the AI is the thing that screams "early access" the most to me. (apart from all the missing items etc and no ending)
slim lintel
tru
pine monolith
i thought the ending was that giant ass gold tp boss
slim lintel
nah thats just a depression simulator
pearl eagle
I mean yeah
slim lintel
we keep talking about arti vs mult, but we all know deep down bandit/sniper is going to be king of pt
pearl eagle
He just might, as long as he's got some kind of decent mobility
slim lintel
i havent used the mod or looked at it, does he still have his speedy invis thing?
cyan stratus
why isn't there a confirmation when you press quit to desktop
i legitimately don't understand
slim lintel
idk I've quit out of the game so many times just trying to restart a run
pearl eagle
I mean I quit the game out of habit when I was trying to go into settings in a normal run with my friend before. Just felt like the thing to do after I hit escape
cyan stratus
who ?
slim lintel
dude with a shield in first game
near jasper
fuck this clay boss, he one shots me with his fucking bombs
cyan stratus
have you tried dodging them
near jasper
yeah but he has heat seeking on them
slim lintel
stand on pride rock and he shoots above your head like a dummy
near jasper
and im a scrub
fallow breach
if you jump as he's about to fire them, and then shift to the taller rock after you land, he over shoots them and then tries to correct and continues to miss
now if only the Lazer eye beam were as forgiving TT.TT
slim lintel
you shouldnt be getting laser beamed
white frost
"Who do most people usually even play in PTs?"
I figured I wanted to answer what I like about them
I think Risk of Rain 2 is a really well made game, but I don't care for the whole random aspect of it. That's kind of a shame since that's the whole game
cyan stratus
the answer is mult
pearl eagle
Answer is most def. MUL-T
white frost
I also don't like how long a good ror session gets, I prefer shorter bursts of playing
Prismatics solve both of these issues for me
cyan stratus
@pearl eagle i just figured out a legendary speed strat
slim lintel
did I see some people were using a newt shrine to get a portal and get a preon from it
pearl eagle
The ones who cover you in oil?
slim lintel
yeah idk how the pots would be worth it with that oil debuff
cyan stratus
no
while they roll downhill, if you jump in front of them
it glitches your character in a somewhat random direction
but hear me out here, that direction can be forwards
pearl eagle
random
white frost
Yes, there's a preon if you take the portal
But the newt is out of your way, and the bazaar wastes 10 seconds
fallow breach
that direction can be forwards lmao
slim lintel
I hope we find more consistent movement tech
fallow breach
the preon will save infinite time if it crits tho
white frost
I wouldn't do it with MUL T but I was going to do it with Huntress before I ran out of lunars
The route also has a lensmaker printer by the teleporter
fallow breach
also I dont know why I get hit with the lazer, but it kinda blows that theres just straight up a chance you get knocked back too far with Mul-T's MAIN DAMAGE ROTATION to the point where you just get one shot by the lazer TT.TT
cyan stratus
stand still while using your roll
fallow breach
yeah?
cyan stratus
you dont get kb
fallow breach
๐ค
pearl eagle
Atleast don't jump
fallow breach
I don't think I'll be home for the end of this trial dang
cyan stratus
สธแตแต แถแตโฟ สทแตแตแถสฐ แตสธ แตแถฆแตแตแต แตแต หขแตแต แตสฐแต หขแตสณแตแต
fallow breach
I watched it
I just never pay attention to you fighting hte boss becuase I figured, I had it down
pearl eagle
shameless plug
fallow breach
spoiler:
||I dont||
cyan stratus
lol
fallow breach
how many hours till this PT ends?
cyan stratus
more than 1 that's for sure
slim lintel
~6
fallow breach
about six!? I might make it home to beat cabbage's time with this new strat - standing still-
cyan stratus
ok so you can easily save ~0.1 of a second using the new pot speed boost
well, i say easily
but i have it down about 1/10 times now
fallow breach
thats almost as bad as Preon farming so I'd say its worth it
pearl eagle
Gotta go fast tho, amirite
fallow breach
just gotta find all of those slants in the elevation that let Mul-T get that weird speed boost when he lands on them just right, and map your route around those
cyan stratus
i've been lowkey doing that
สทแตแตแถสฐ แตสธ แตแถฆแตแตแต and you see that i jump all the time
fallow breach
are you hitting speed boosts off it? I honstely didn't notice, or maybe its a newer video
cyan stratus
hmm maybe you should watch it a couple more times
fallow breach
theres a mod called seventeen uncles? gross.
I'll watch it on repeat while I work this water polo tournament
fully grok the shit out of it
fallow breach
oof, that good good 89 millisecond improvement
cyan stratus
"millisecond"
pearl eagle
All from those pots
fallow breach
that crystal jump is clean
cyan stratus
thanks i'm not using it anymore since it loses time
fallow breach
we hit TP at exactly the same time and I have a slightly different movement path for first two crystals
how tf does that lose time
I forgot how much you just send it when the dunestrider goes up, but is like 10 miles from pride rock
cyan stratus
???english
fallow breach
you like fly off the rock when the dunestrider goes up and its a way bigger gap than I think yo ucna make
cyan stratus
uhhhhh
cyan stratus
?????
fallow breach
when he sucks everything in
cyan stratus
wtf are you doing
fallow breach
wha
cyan stratus
maybe watch my video a couple more times for the strat
fallow breach
I push him to the same health
cyan stratus
if it goes into heal you reset
cyan stratus
i literally get that fight with 90% consistency
fallow breach
he heals at 500 health, I see you force him to go up at like 700 health, which I get him to do, but it seems like that up phase for him is shorter for me and he always ends up going down and straight into heal. I'll just have to try it again when i get home
with better movement during the fight
fallow breach
I guess I just didnt know your position was forcing the up phase, so I'll have to time my movement better
I also guess the faster I get it, the fewer lemurians are hurling fireballs at me, since thats how I died a few times even when I did succesfully kill the golem
cyan stratus
w.the golem, kill 2 while activation
the imp is the main dmg dealer but killing him wastes a bit of time
sometimes i go for it though, idk
fallow breach
I like how he just magically unsticks the moment you hit the TP if he's stuck at that shrine at the begining TT>TT
cyan stratus
yep that's a classic
cyan stratus
hmmmm
i think i have a 1:20ish route
but no time to give it a good try
i mean 2:20 **
you skip ap bullets basically
fallow breach
1:20 LMAO
the time saved by not going to AP bullets outweighs the time saved dealing more damage?
cyan stratus
yes, money saved -> lv4, skip dragon
full cloud
tfw boss spawn isnt like the last 30 runs
zenith plinth
Those saying their PB is This record but doesn't upload it I would have to call BS on. Until videos are recorded of said record happening. I would have to disbelieve most records people would say they gotten without any post proof.
idle stone
how are you able to bump so close to the titan consistantly
full cloud
what titan
fallow breach
apparently Chi, you just dont jump or move and only roll into it
calm cedar
yeah don't jump when you speed boost into the boss
idle stone
oh okay
fallow breach
Cabbage, dragon skip? doesn't he just come waddling over anyway and you gotta deal with him?
calm cedar
you can actually manipulate that really easily for bosses to get good bounces back into teleporters
idle stone
so only jump on like the 2nd hit so you can distance for the beams
fallow breach
his lazer beam?
calm cedar
i haven't even done the boss yet so i don't know when the beams hit
traditionally you can also manipulate stone titans to avoid a beam completely
idle stone
yah
fallow breach
yo fuck this slowmode
idle stone
no the lazer but the little beams
calm cedar
whats the time to beat?
full cloud
like 2min?
calm cedar
oh you mean the boulder missiles thing?
calm cedar
when he raises up the boulder to slap the piss out of you
fallow breach
im pretty sure you can just keep circling and jumping to dodge those, he kinda leads them
idle stone
yah so on the 2nd bump you need to jump so you can dodge the missles right?
fallow breach
||If you watch cabbages video that they want to plug all the time you can see how he gets like perfect golem AI||
calm cedar
if he's already spawning the boulder above him you can jump bump but if he's not mid animation for something jump bumping will get you enough distance to cause his to laserbeam
you can also keep circling him and he'll go mongomode and try to hammerfist/boulder you
fallow breach
MONGO MODE SMASH
full cloud
slight problem, i get a blazing magmaworm not a titan
full cloud
indeed
slim lintel
its time gated, make sure you're locked at 60 fps for premium boss spawn
full cloud
btw where can i find cabbage vids`?
fallow breach
ill link hold on
to quote cabbage "My real time is 2:36.02 but I'm lazy as fuck so I won't upload it"
- not a fully true quote
full cloud
i'll watch when i actually finish my run
fallow breach
it feels like the bosses are the worse part instead of the route this time which is a nice change, but also fuck this trial TT.TT fucking blazing right as they acknowledge its broken as fuck
slim lintel
next trial will be magma worm -> blazing vagrant, no glasses no preon no capacitor
full cloud
how do you know this ๐ค
fallow breach
its a meme
cyan stratus
@fallow breach you got 2:32????
fallow breach
nah nah nah
cyan stratus
vid
cyan stratus
oh i thought you said wr 2:32
fallow breach
ohh did I say 2:32? Im just dumb
fallow breach
๐ค
full cloud
dragon?
fallow breach
the elder Lemurian
he hangs out around that combat shrine to the right when you spawn stage two, someitmes he gets stuck
fallow breach
I want the bandit, but exactly like he was in original RoR: Busted as fuck when you reset his speed increase because it never decreased
full cloud
not in trials they aint
cyan stratus
yea they are
full cloud
apparently dunestrider heal does alot of foken damage
fallow breach
raging would be way cooler
full cloud
fuck
*
fallow breach
lmao
fallow breach
^ my thoughts on this trial summed up tbh
full cloud
actually just kill me
fallow breach
the new trial will be up in like 3 hours
full cloud
2:51hours tiol next trial
fallow breach
I actually guessed
full cloud
g4u
fallow breach
thank
full cloud
FDASFASDF^
ASD
nimble veldt
thx for the info
full cloud
scufed runs make me suicidal
fallow breach
lmao
atleast these runs are like, only 2ish minutes imagine scuffing a speed run for like final fantasy 9? Shits like 12 hours
cyan stratus
imagine running ff9
fallow breach
according to AGDQ they do it soley for the music
full cloud
agdq sucks tho
fallow breach
thats what keeps htem sane
I like watching the vods of the games I care about, I never watch it live
pearl eagle
I'm about to do a couple runs before the reset, do you not want to go for the AP ammo?
fallow breach
nope
cyan stratus
idk
cyan stratus
whats ur pb lax
cyan stratus
yikes
fallow breach
I'm going to eek out a WR in like an hour and a half
I've been perfecting all the other shit, now i just gobba kill the boss
fallow breach
whats the WR cat?
cyan stratus
1:45