#prismatic-trials
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thanks again
link?
nah dont look at his faster time, go look at my slower 2:34 lmao
if I ever had the mental capacity to sit and fish for a crit I'd spend more time on this shitty ass trial TT.TT
push sub 2:30
yea im on my phone sorry no link
i cna go grab it for you
I got a 2:17.01, but the route is set up for 2:13ish. the route is absolutely mental though and relies on rng so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
pog
thanks!
that's pretty much the same route I took as arti
Lmao slowmode? You guys partying or what
Clearly this chat is out of control
its poppin
All chats got a slowmode, I think?
maybe one chat was going crazy so they did it to all chats
lmao
other achievements work in trials?
we like to party
cause if not then rip crab farm
@gloomy zinc not sure i think so
Pretty sure they work
it doesn't matter if you do it on your main what do you have to lose?
Time crystal jumping is poop on mult unless ur bugged
i have quite a bit of achievements on my main and i dont want to waste effort
lmao just told family "rn im gonna chase hermit crabs off a cliff to get an achievement" to avoid
theres always a buckler so would huntress be best?
i used engi
just don't pick up drones because they'll kill them while you chase them off
thx for the reminder. man these things are great for achievement farming
whbat does
good question
lmao rug, do you just call people retards often?
just TRIED to do the prismatic trial, and guess what? for stage 2, i got a blazing wandering vagrant
AND i was a mecenary (the AOE attack was going off every other attack)
Get the preon, makes the fight a whole lot easier
dunno where that's located lol'
It's in the ruins not that far from spawn on stage 2, in an equipment canister
huh, alright then, thanks
yeah slow killing that flamey jelly sounds awful
yup
No crit = insta reset
I always thing
hey i could get slightly faster htan my old time, i should keep pushing
then i die
What's your time at rn?
i haven't pushed in about a day so its still chillin at 2:34 i think
I've never crit preon i might add
either i've made the beetle queen mad, or there's just a ton of beetles spawning
hold on ill link my run recording
just, beetles, on the first stage lol
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i watched your strat of shifting that third crystal to the far one
but that seemed tuff
i do a ton of runs and only beetle once 2nd stage
tbh seems like it could save a good second
what kind of beetle is it?
flaming
i didnt preon crit it so i couldnt compare time
I mean, the biggest time save you would be is to shoot preon early and get a crit
finally found the preon, thanks for the tip
Other than that it's just making sure all the movement is more or less perfect with as little downtime as possible
Also if you want you can try the route cabbage found
Although it's a lot more difficult to pull off and it's really inconsistant
still got the vagrant sadly, but it's much faster now
You will almost always get vagrant
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I've never gotten the beetle, but got wisps once
Which was really annoying cuz I got a crit too
But they were spread out π
if you get warning message at begninning it's different
ive never seen the beetle
i think i did once, then again, you can't be sure lol
i've probably done more runs than you and only saw once
very rare to get it
@pearl eagle any strat for not flying in a random direction when ramming into titan?
that moment when the overloading worm is your boss to fight in the prismatic trials:
No cabbage
cabbage, you just gotta aim better
Sometimes you just go flying past him, sometimes you bounce toward the teleport
I find using the like, slanted hill that leads into the hole, it works well to control it, and hten the last one I just put myself between the tele and him
i fly over the rock and he lasers me
3rd i want to bounce to tele but sometimes i end up flying sideways
i just want a decent time so i can upload video and cat can get a 2:10
I've given up on runs until I'm able to steal your route. Not gonna do runs if I know my time is going to be beat anyways
lol i can screenshare if you want
you better beat him
After many attempts and failing 99.99% of them because I don't get the crit on the seconds boss, i got this run. Thank you for watching please leave any tips...
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gratz as fuck
Ty π Been trying forever
@pearl eagle how did you get 1:02 portal interact in your video, i avg around 1:00 - 1:02?? while i activate at 35
hmm i think my fight is very suboptimal
I mean, I do basically what I do in the video
Use nade then charge as soon as charge comes off cooldown
Other than that just shoot I guess
can somebody link cats run with the 1:02 activation? I wanna watch it
Props to Cabbage for discovering this beast of a route. Run could still be faster by atleast 2 seconds. Getting really good RNG on the lemurs is important an...
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He means activate teleport after fight with titan on stage 1
And not sure cabbage, if your fight is suboptimal that might be possible
wow, how do you get 0 kb after using roll into the titan?
Probably because I don't jump before activation and uphill
ohhh
i see now
very fast
dude
i hate critting the tar crystal and then missing the third shot
Generally just throwing runs after crits is really heartbreaking
Damn that's pretty good
i honestly cant find a way to get the 2 lemurians without losing time
so unless one just comes and dies during the fight i have to grab the barrel
Something I try to do is turn around while boss is spawning to see if one of them is hittable, so if you hit it with a nade earlier it's oneshot with railgun
one always spawns lower, by 2nd crystal
Doesn't happen very often, but it does happen sometimes
i always get the 2nd one that spawns while grabbing glasses though
lol when i kill a crystal and it spawns the coin and i have to wonder if it's worth going for
That's fast af
Ah
That makes sense then
But still, if you get a run like that I'm probably not going to try to beat it
Not gonna hope for more than one crit to beat someone
tbh i only gained like 0.8sec or w/e
i shoot the crystal on the way to the portal
found a consistent lv4 1:00 1st portal strat, coming for ur time π
it's just a matter of "shoot this lemurian at this time"
but i can get both kills w/o significant time loss
very consistent
Mind sharing?
so basically, the more time you spend in the level, the slower your time, so my strat is to try to beat the two stages in as little time as possible to get the fastest time
you know when you miss preon but the aoe shows that it would've crit
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it's not fun
Yo cabbage, you got a link of the current route people are using?
i have a theoretical ~2:09 that didn't crit
i might just upload that and be done with it
I see.
legit wr is 2:14
ok cool
So I'm not as behind as I thought.
I'm about to try an idea out on your route.
imb4 nothing spawns
XD
Wtf, I quit
Give me a vid of the route, and I'll give it a couple of gos
I gotta go to bed soon anyways, might have to wait until I get a chance tomorrow
Doubt I'll beat it, won't have a lot of time to play tomorrow either
the strat i use is actually extremely consistent
it's just aim and crit reliant
if you dont get 1 crit on the tar crystal it's p bad
29.5% chance each run to get a crit on it π
3.2% isn't too bad :D
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You got a new strat on stage 2?
nope, just that yours was bad
crystal optimization was pretty lacking
and you waited with preon
Oh, really? Didn't think it was that bad, but I guess it was then
yeah it's strange that i saved the most time on stage2
while my new strats were stage1
that's why i'm saying you have a very good chance to beat
you're 100% better than me at playing, it's just that i'm better at making routes π
Well, I'm quite intrigued as to your stage 2
it's really nothing special
you just have to click and press sprint right after to optimize
i didn't even get any crits on crystals
Pretty sure i did sprint shoot, but I guess I'm just slow or something
what do i have to do to complete a prismatic trial
beat 1st two stages
how did you get two minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fN4vRzWI6o , watch 1:32 @pearl eagle
Props to Cabbage for discovering this beast of a route. Run could still be faster by atleast 2 seconds. Getting really good RNG on the lemurs is important an...
what were you doing??
@brittle heron basically just optimize a route and beat it fast
Oh shit I wasn't sprinting at those two shots
yeah dude that's a solid -2sec
oh okay
there's no legit 2 minute time though, people cheat
so don't look at the top scores and take them as being legit
i think the fastest possible is ~2:04
and that's with crits on literally everything
wait do we have a new trial?
yeah as of 2 days ago
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shitty jelly fishing
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you ok
No, I need sleep but you aren't letting me
I was rather aware, but felt like letting you know where my mental state is at rn anyways
i completely understand, i'm not in the best mental state either, i've pretty much done nothing except my classes and this prismatic trial for the last 2 days
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stage 1 was garbage but this is just kinda to show off the route and the optimization that i found so yeah someone go beat my time please, 2:06 def. possible
360p right now b/c processing but have fun anyways
Holy shit I never noticed you could hit the first crystal from just that hill
???????
lol i also tried from the rock
tbh it doesn't save a lot of time over your route
since with the roll it syncs badly
I was doing it from the rock as well
but it wasn't panning out as well as just rolling down to the pillar and shooting the crystal way off the the left of the spawn
i've had 1 crit in about 200 attempts so i'm hanging the boots up for this trial
1/200 is like suuuuper unlucky bro
i bungled my way to the finish almost as bad as my blind run and got a preon crit for a 2:30 finish. I cannot be bothered fishing any further
Are you sure you are picking up those glasses?
^^^
yup every run, glasses out the cloaked box
yiikes
yikes, i thought me getting like 30 non crits in a row was bad
Honestly, it looks like the most noticeable time save you have compared to me is the vagrant kill time
You kill it like a lot faster than me
maybe you got more hits with the aoe on the preon
Well
yeah i was surprised on the ttk aswell
But got the crit and my ttk on boss was faster because a stood a bit farther away from it when my preon landed
was fired*
I'm going to try for like 20-30 more minutes
I should have been in bed like 1.5 hours ago
btw are we the only 2 with sub 220?
I got moved further up on leaderboard so I can only see to 2:17.76
That's a MUL-T so could be legit
i just feel like everyone else is fed up with grinding crit preon lol
i don't blame them tbh, i am too
Yeah, it's not as fun as something that requires pure skill
Well there are still like random crits on all char
But the crit preon is just so huge
i feel like they should remove crits from prismatic trials
then there's still 10% crit preon with glasses
sigh
convert all crit into increased base dmg?
What do you mean?
if you get crit glasses, instead of getting a 10% chance to do double damage, your attacks just do 110% damage instead
i guess all chars start with 101% base dmg
they could just remove the 1% chance to crit instead
all i want are crits out of prismatic trials, speedruns should be about working on become more efficient to improve your time, not getting lucky
like you could get blessed by god's rng and crit literally every hit and if you did your route pretty efficiently nobody else wouldve have a chance to beat your time
yeah i don't think the fastest time should be because of luck
I did not know Blazing Greater Wisp can spawn on Prismatic Trials???
Random event
a beetle cana also spawn it's idk what the activation is for different bosses thoufh
though*
Says a warning in the chat whenever there is something like that
The fact that those are actually random and not seeded is a bit weird actually
@cyan stratus Managed to get a 2:10.46
nice
Would love to continue, but I really need to go to bed
you can easily beat it tomorrow if you got a 2:10 so fast
good night, gl tomorrow :)
Well I was pretty lucky with my preons rn
Had I gotten a crystal crit on the one behind tar I would probably have beat you. Might go for that a couple times tomorrow. Anyways, good night
Hello, I'm new here to prismatic trial speedruns, and I am currently trying to recreate Cabbage's run video, and, for the vagrant boss, are you trying for a crit on preon to instakill?
just poppin in to say that im not a fan of rerolling runs over and over again for lucky crits, it wont be included next patch but ill see if theres an elegant solution
@foggy star thank you it will make things more consistant and fair
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although there are some concerns that instead you'll just try to roll lucky missiles or ukulele or w/e but thats probably less likely
as in less influential
it would also be nice if people had to pick up more items to get good times, since that is a lot of what's interesting, but its hard to make the optimal strategy not typically going straight to the TP every time
maybe two seperate leader boards? one for points one for time?
you guys have any idea what you're gonna do about the hackers?
and maybe a combined one where you try and balance between points and time for best possible score
i dont think its worth worrying about hackers right now
yeah but i just want to know their thoughts on them
theres typically no way to prevent entries in the steam leaderboards
even if we could verify, cheat engine would sadly still be a thing
well damn
players with vac bans can't participate in the prismatic trial leaderboards could be like
a really band-aid tier fix
well i think separate character leaderboard would be nice
@cyan stratus So yeah, I couldn't sleep and accidentally beat your time by 2.5sec
@foggy star I have a question, bosses with shield, was it intended for us to get them to half health when they spawned?
sorta an oversight, its fixed for next patch which is a bit of a shame for prismatic because it was a cute little tech you could do
but it was also the same reason you lost half your health when you got wake of vultures
i see damn it thought it was a cool tech for trials
sniper female ?
Someone has their priorities straight
drone AI manipulation will be the new meta after preon crits are nerfed
Y'know drones are solid, wonder if theres any tech we can do with them by jumping on them after buying them
Does that mean you can buy one and jump onto it to fly away?
Sounds really amazing tbh
maybe
that would be lit
gonna play around with it rn see if it works
playing with a friend and he just left it's been 30 mins
Man behind the route is Cabbage and the man deserves a lot of credit for improving the route so much. Got really lucky with a crit on the crystal behind the ...
I'm pretty sure I'm done with this trial now
Pretty sure I've peaked
insane run gg
Got really lucky with crits. Crit on crystal, crit nade on boss and then the crit on preon
crit happens
Also the new route from Cabbage, and the little tech with preon saves a good amount of time
whoa ok i disappear for like an hour and all this happens
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i didn't expect dev to actually care about prismatic trials, that's insane
nice run btw, knew you'd beat me (:
well rip my dreams of getting wr on this one.
really nice to have confirmation that lucky crit fishing isn't the future
what do you think a good fix would be
just outright crit removal maybe?
i dont know how to make it not luck based
I mean yeah it's not exactly an easy fix, the game is so based on luck there's not a lot of great ideas to fix it.
Like if you removed crits entirely the blazing vagrant would be hell.
lmao i just watched your video @pearl eagle
dw i'm laughing with you
you literally took my exact route and wrecked it lmao
I actually feel mean, because you genuinely deserve this one
Was just really lucky with my crits
actual 4head
that whole video was crits and giggles
at least my name is said in the legendary WR video /shrug
legendary
Shame I won't have access to my computer for like the two next trials
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So you're gonna have to run those for me buddy
dw i'm not that bad at the game, i think i can manage a good run here or there π
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hmm so your stage 1 is 58 sec. flat, that's basically my pb
I'm pretty sure I got some good damage on the vagrant with the crit on the nade I threw
Also tried quite hard to give my preon a good distance to fly so it did a lot of AOE damage
yep you just had to get a crit on your nade
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shhhh
I have a tendency to really want to destroy that crystal before I get my shift, and you can see me realise I don't have enough time to go for another shot
Too short attention span for a 2 minute run basically
oof
what is the best way to not heal while charging the teleporter?
im trying to get the 10% hp charging teleporter and the get to 3rd teleporter challenge
oh wait what why am i in prismatic
lol np
:monka:
@pearl eagle i just 2crit tar crystal and crit both of stage 2 crystals
1:43 2nd tp but no crit preon
ridiculous how rng works sometimes lol
Damn dude, that's cruel
since i record everything i might just upload an entire reel of those moments π
Haha, that would probably heartbreaking to watch
how many people are even doing it legit
about 4
are they all in here
yea
@slim lintel have you tried getting a better time?
alright, i'm done with this trial, no further optimizations possible and it's literally just fishing for crits which isn't enjoyable
i'm happy with how optimized it's become, i honestly don't really care that i don't have wr because we're all working together to get a good time anyways, and there's no rewards so it doesn't matter
if anyone else wants to try, good luck
but until the crit situation is fixed i'm probably gonna take a break π
I'm still gonna do the next trial I'm just happy i pushed myself to get #1 arti spot this time
yeah, i'm technically #2 legit but it really doesn't mean anything since nobody is really trying
it does mean something
ehhhh
Nope, probably wont dont like this trial at all
not everyone has the time to go for runs like me
it's literally time gated, currently the chance for wr with doing everything perfectly is ~3%
0.11 * 0.89^3 for a chance, then extra *0.11 for more time save on crits
1-0.89^3 *
new trial is tomorrow night right?
a feeling, any feeling, its a bad feeling tbh
i tried updating my video description to say there's a new wr and accidentally wrote a book
anyone else have strong feelings about this trial in particular? π
what do you mean by that?
yeah i think it turns a lot of people away because they don't have time to try and grind it out
I'm glad hopoo addressed the crit situation and they plan on trying to do something about it
definitely. i see a bunch of people get like a sub 4 and they're happy
and honestly, it's not bad because who wants to grind out those crits
but it makes me think the of future for trials that means more people are gonna have times around 3 minutes and that might be optimal
well still like it's just gonna be feeling a lot slower
not really much wrong with that though
idk
considering wr is 2:07 and my pb without crit is 2:25, it's really only ~20sec difference
and it makes for more interesting strats
i remember before i knew a preon existed, i had a glasses + energy drink + ap bullet route
yeah not saying it's bad just stating how it's gonna be
but that got changed to "glasses + preon"
i just want more character to be more viable
with more character do you mean "arti"
i don't like how every wr on every trial so far has been mult
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lol i don't just play arti I actually liked engi before everyone else
not everyone but i mean before i liked other characters
the thing is, the leaderboard doesn't mean anything anyways so every character is viable if we separate using the discord
for example, i know wr is 2:07.xx but that's with mult, i know wr for arti is 2:29.xx
true
i don't know for any other char because nobody wants to play this cursed trial
but you get the point, it's already kinda separated
thats why i want separate leaderboards but that also means they'll be more people at top 10%
i doubt they'll ever add rewards for top 10%
and if they do, they're kinda stupid tbh
there's a reason there's literally no other game with hackers and rewards simultaniously
welll... no other serious games
for example i like to use binding of isaac as an example, top times were always hacked so nobody really took it seriously, afaik there was literally 0 strategizing / collaboration after the first week or so
gotta get those 5 lunar coins
lol i got 5 lunar coins over the course of grinding the trial through random drops
anyways, heading to bed - gl on future runs
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hopoo could accept submitted video records and in some way reward the person that sent it, like how speedrunners do it
it would be to much work i think
they said they have no plans to get rid of hackers at the moment, but they said they can end up getting rid of the fake negative times but they don't have a plan for the cheat engine cheaters well not yet at least
Achieved an excellent time today with Huntress in the Prismatic Trial - 3:32:34 - Placing me just above 500th place. This is my first competing for a good time. Are hackers still being shown on the top of the leaderboards?
yes they are but I'm very impressed you got a time like that with huntress
Thanks @chilly trout! Promise no hacking! Just prioritized items and teleported a bunch
@pulsar oriole I did not. May try that. I usually used Rain of Arrows to attack it and continue moving on foot. Not sure if it would save that much time.
fair i dont know huntress strats at all
what is prismatic trials
You play a game that lasts two stages on a set seed, and try to complete it as fast as you can
You need to destroy 3 crystals before you can activate the teleporter and spawn the boss
Some of us go to extreme lengths to try to create really fast routes and get really good times
As of right now you don't really gain anything from doing them, but they could be a good place to earn some achievments if you haven't gotten all of the unlocks yet
also its the closest thing to anything competetive here
since everyone is on equal grounds
Unless people just want to yell that they're a better player without any basis. That's what gd1 is for!
should be separate leaderboards for every character
I'M A BETTER PLAYER
RAWR
wait this should go in gd1 mb
how do you see the top times? there doesnt seem to be a way in the game
there isn't anymore
It's all based around your time
lol whats ur merc time this trial
very surprised if sub 3, merc sucks this trial particularly
I would like a trial mode kind of like how nuclear throne does it where it's infinite and based on kills and how far you got
There's also the official speedrun if you want competition
The ones on speedrun.com
I'm in Georgia without a pc @cyan stratus
Just messing around
But I saw the trial, sub 3 with merc would be hard but I could do it probably
nice !
theres a decent amount of us on speedrun.com
but almost all of us are or were ror1 speedrunners
Oh thats awesome
I'd like to join the speedrun community but unfortunately I cannot record runs
not with this shitty potato pc at least
I tried doing a couple speedruns earlier, but wasn't a very big fan of the randomness the run is so dependant on. Might try again at a later point though as I have a lot of fun in the trials
yh you have to deal with a lot of randomness
forgot i had my mods on lmao
should be enough levels right?
wont actually be using this run dw
so, anyone w/exp on speedrun.com know if having categories for each prismatic trial would be possible?
If the trails aren't random Cabbage maybe?
good start
any idea what the higher times are?
@cyan stratus not really as they update so often
and when one passes it cant be retried ever again
Damn, don't have artificer unlocked yet
@cerulean sorrel how did u get that many lunar coins
he has mods i believe thats how
yea i wouldnt do it in trials
no use for lunar coins, and i dont even really play normal with the 'mods' just seeing what i can do
even if you cheat in trials, it means nothing
there are no benefits or disadvantages of cheating in trials
yeah nobody will trust your times and be skeptical of what you say
i can't even be sure if there are any cheaters in the leaderboard because i'm being shown only a handful people close to my time
yeah some might cheat and still be really bad lol
but there are negative times at the top 10
so cheating gets you:
- no exposure
- no benefits
- no hindrance
only devs may look at your negative time and smile
it hinders your credibility
if i cheated then came into this chat with people knowing I cheating then they wouldn't trust me if i said i got wr without cheating
but other than that you're right
Anyone feel weird about having crits in prismatic? Feels weird having a great run being dictated on whether or not your Preon crits...
Like my preon crit in this most recent attempt I did and it shaved off 30+ seconds of my previous best time
yea it's crappy but we got confirmation yesterday that they plan on doing something about it
oh did we?
hopoo said that he doesn't recommend going for crit because it's not gonna be the case in the future
we got devs up in this bitch
they don't know an exact fix but they don't like us relying on crits
this slowmode is actually hindering my way of life and how i type, I'm submitting a formal complaint
they said they were looking for an "elegant" solution
"elegant"
id be ok with crit chance just being converted to base damage
ooh
what would be a solution though?
base edamage is constant crit isnt so id say its better
so just 100% crit
nah
1 lensmaker glasses = attacks deal 1.1x dmg
I got us that feedback rep tho for leaderboards
and then grab the active item
Character specific leaderboards would make me nut
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the route still aint faster becuase of the preon crit route tho :c
gesture + active item bug?
LMAO
That
It can still be played but I fear I may seize
It goes off multiple times a second
crazy
Can I @ a dev?
oh in bug reports I'll go
that bug is well known and reported in #ror2-bug-reports-pc
nice feedback I think they'll listen i told hopoo the same thing yesterday when he was in the chat
theres a bug with gesture and picking it up before picking up an equip, then picking up the equipment in the same map (i think is how its triggered)
causes it to have 0 cd
Should be fixed next patch/patch after
theres a vid where someone nukes the entire bazaar with 0 cd meteors
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hopoo was in this chat?
yes
dw i got you
"just poppin in to say that im not a fan of rerolling runs over and over again for lucky crits, it wont be included next patch but ill see if theres an elegant solution"
"theres typically no way to prevent entries in the steam leaderboards. even if we could verify, cheat engine would sadly still be a thing"
^ makes me sad
= they are aware of the crit problem but it's not their 1st priority, and cheater issue isn't fixable
so i suggest we head over to speedrun.com, but then again each trial is only 3days so they get 'locked' essentially
I feel like there's games that can detect cheat engine and just flat out wont run if they detect it/will crash if you start it up afterwards but I think you need an external anti cheat system for that and I hate those
cheat engine is the most accessible and script kiddie friendly tho
just get a confirmation system for the top like 5% of players
well, isaac has greedbutt leaderboards for their daily runs
add a run watching system with reports, if a run gets enough reports it gets elevated to a community manager for review/potential removal
arent those hacked?
I'm not sure what the cheat engine runs look like, but I'm sure theres some way to hardcode a check against it if its just changing data values.
i have a bit of game dev experience myself and a run rewatching system would be ridiculously hard to implement, especially with how (i assume) loading of maps etc. works
clientside stuff rather than through the server
necrodancer also has leaderboards, though necrodancer has replay system
i'm sure you all notice that on your first prismatic trial run of the game session, 1st map takes ~3sec until you can start moving
but then it's instant load
a replay system sounds messy
League couldnt even get a replay system implemented for like 8 years
and thats the same map over and over
yeah to much work and would take to long to implement imo
league smol indiana company xd
especially since these trials are 'extra content'
there's no way of validating the results if everything is done locally on your machine
probably ~50% of all runs are just to get the achievement lol
if there were like community managers in charge of leaderboards it would be 'easier' to like monitor, but that's messy and things should realistically be contained within the game
that's why i proposed speedrun.com
considering hopoo hopped in here to give us some wisdom they at least care about this mode somewhat
you technically could call a function and send a doctored result to the leaderboard without launching the game
the game would have to be more popular to get people just for trials
i don't think so lent, hopoo mentioned steam leaderboards
I've essentially only played trials for the last two weeks
same ^
its already way more popular than they expected
just get some VAC system in here
yeah, it's steam leaderboards. but that doesn't affect anything
lol someone yesterday said don't let people with a vac ban participate
π¦ VAC will save us π¦
dark souls has some kind of checking system becuase as soon as you hit multiplayer with cheats (I've done it by accident when I was doing challenge runs) you get timeouts/bans for it. and they use cheat engine to edit those values
^
i was gonna say
I got banned from darksouls because it constantly checks values and if things are spawned in within files
anticheat in a pve game might not be worth the performance impact
so you have to play offline
I feel like if its speed hacks or damage hacks or any kind of value changes, there cna litterally be a big nasty ass gross switch statement htat compares current level to values
including item modifiers?
not hard
then people can hack in items
reasonably the map knows what items exist
what's going to compare the values? won't "hackers" just disable it?
with stuff like shrine of order?
it's the same seed everytime for 3 days
i mean you're speaking logic but it seems like a very big project
#feedbac and ideas - "I want it to be open source so I can better know what I'm talking baout when giving specific solutions" kek
they know whats in the lvl because it's a set seed right?
yeah
evne if they are passing it to your PC to build on initialization
they have to send that info
oh yeah and your driver's licence
nah just your SSID
here I'll give my IP to prove I'm legit: 192.168.0.1
oh nice the latency to you is so low
mines 0.0.0.0.1 π€
that looks like a proxied vpn'd hacker ip reported
shh im from australia i swear...mate
then why isn't your text upside down
fuq you got me
LentToday at 3:45 PM oh yeah and your driver's licence
jokes on you i'm too young for a driver's license, brb gonna go hack now
my friend has a way he auto types upside down somehow
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gobba go fast
can't wait until they add sonic as a playable character
define sonic. is 42 nr-g cans not sonic?
every time you get hit you drop all your money and have to pick it up
honestly a good mechanic
holy shit sonic build: goat hooves sodie pops and brittle crown
that's how brokren crown should work
he has that dash attack in later games, so getting the head stompers mark II would also fit
no, you need to drop all your lunar coins, which are proper coins
shit I'm gonna make that brittle crown thing a feedback that would be dank
I just want the artifact that changes everything into chooseable rarity boxes
every other one can take its time getting here, command is all i want
do you want to exploit the game so badly?
its not an exploit
its a good way to create fun builds and also its a better way that the main line speed run exists, when they get a last level
if it's not exploit than what is
rip guess people don't like fun
did u not play ror1
noone saying it's bad to have command
that and being faster at low health were the moooove for the speedrun in RoR1
an exploit is unintended boons to the player
this is just a halo skull
the bot gave you a thumbs up lol
wuah
yes
i just lost a run because i had low disk space on my D: drive
D:
D:
wait wym
i have partitions C: U: and V:
theres like a 20 dollar 240GB ssd
$20? where
uhh
I got mine for $40
let me see if its still happening
Any1 know how long until the next trial?
~3 hours I think
Kk, ty
@ hopoo hi I'm a senior CS major graduating in May with no Job prospects can you just hire me on to work soley on prismatic trials? I know the fuck outta my data structures and algorithms π
gl with that
thats my cover letter, i think its pretty strong
yeah this trial sucks I just tried it a few more times and cant get a single crit attack on titan with glasses
oof
i haven't touched it since my best run
I've just been too busy with living life and honestly, I think it's kept my sanity from this shitty ass trial
i lost a bit
50 mins, first one to find the preon wins!
i just did it in 4:22 with artificer and preon
nice
oof have fun mult mains, you're probably the only ones that are going to get any enjoyment out of this one
@sinful urchin 3:23 hours or minutes?
3 minutes 23 seconds
Phew
i can't see the old trial leaderboards but this was about 10 minutes before it reset
how the frik can you kill a dunestrider as arti with the crap items this stage1 has
yeah i was just trying to figure that one out
there's a sticky bomb which is cool but
gonna try with merc LMAO
yeah I don't see how this dunestrider will be reasonably possible with arti
jesus yeah and no items really help except ap bullets
i got one shot
yo
Welp see ya'll in 3 days
you guys got a route already?
hang on i found gasoline and i think if you combine the cube with you might be able to do something
afaik gas doesnt really stack damage like wisp does when multiple enemies explode at once
I could be wrong though
pretty sure it does i just chunked like 600 health as soon as it spawned
garbo boss choice
yeah this is rough
first trial where we have to xp/item farm? 
anyone tried mult yet? I'm guessing he still has an easy time
yeah i can half health the teapot but it kills me instantly
yeah i keep dying lol
i think i figured it out
wtf his explosive shots hit through engis shield
dont even tell me thats the stage 2 boss
cursed image
i almost had it again but apparently the dunestride can immediately do the three rolling thing while using its engi attack
well this already wins the award for worst trial
it has no crit preon
i got blazing magma worm on second
yep see ya'll in 3 days I aint got time for this shit
i' mstill trying arti and i got the dunestrider to 197
thsi fight is all about position
Yeah I noticed if you stand on that rock a bunch of its stuff misses
But I'm not about to go fighting a blazing magma worm
ok whats up with this trial then?
first boss is teapot
i'm sorry teapot is what i use to describe it with my friend - clay dunestrider
really hard to do with arti
I cant even get past the Clay Dunestrider -.-
hey i found an unstable tesla coil on the second stage
o7
is anyone actually trying this trial seriously
or have we just kinda given up on these
whats your pb
lol haven't beat it
lol ye
fuqqqqq
worse then that last
i like it better than crit preon
is it just a longer run
clay pot is an rng fest because it's random whether it goes up or not, and that's the only way you can cancel the invuln suck
I seemed to get it pretty regularly two trials ago
got a 3:20 but w/e
3:20 how many items you building?
clay pot seems to go up when it's at about 2/3 health and 1/3 health for sure
and then it goes down to the floor when it's at 1/4
yeah, down at 1/4 i know
but i've had runs where i burn it to 1/4 and it takes a solid 10 seconds before it goes up
and others where it goes up instantly
i was having this issue earlier where i would damage it so fast that it would go up while also doing its normal attack and then i would get pummeled by the rolling things instantly
so.... i would die in about two seconds flat
if you stand on the rock next to where it spawns and back a little bit its orbs that skid across the ground cant hit you and its spammy bombs miss 80% of the time
thats right next to it though, no falloff
its a problem when you're arti with no HP and your R is stupid and makes you slow while you have to literally stand under it to hit it when it stands up
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Im not playing arti though, in fact I'm not playing this trial at all 
yea i think i'm literally one out of like 3 people who's trying
even the hackers aren't, i'm 11th place
i'm 61 with arti lol
I'll try when I'm home but
i'm trying really hard for absolutely no reason
oh i know
ur name is sutpid
3:20 is 11th? I'll fight you for pb lmao
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sub 3 is def. possible but i'm burnt out on these trials
if i get some real competition for WR i'll try harder
I'll maybe look later and do some routing
do you want me to upload my run so you can leech off of it like everyone else does with my routes?
Uhh, I'm torn
Normally I make my own ND don't look at people's for like 24 hours
But....hmmm if it's a long run...
Nah I've been out all day
1st boss is clay pot, 2nd is blazing stone titan, no real useful items except glasses, ap bullets, energy drink (terminal near spawn has it for its '?')
With your route is it like an easy 3 or a trying hard 3 looking for a better strat
stage 2 has some interesting items but there's no good route for which items to take
it's an easy 3, i came up with it in like an hour
it's very unoptimized
Oh okay I'll look first
for example, i spent about 20 sec in stage 2 farming enemies for lv4
Oh that's gross
i'm sure you can find optimization of what enemies to kill
Farming always feels like time lost.
also there's an elder lemurian that either spawns or doesn't spawn at stage 2 boss portal
so that's a nice bit of rng for you to look forward to
Love it those always fuck me
lmao flashbacks to 3hour run where i got 1shot by a blazing elder lemurian
Hmm, I think realistically the goal is for sure hit lvl 4 stage transition since money EXP is uh...better than kill XP I'm pretty sure
the elder spawns by the shrine of combat to the right side of the map and may or may not get stuck on it
no, another one randomly can spawn by the portal
W to the ack
unless it's the same one that randomly looped around?
@pearl eagle you still got your computer to try this one? remember you said something about having to leave
very scuffed, came up with this route in like an hour, i still dont know how to get to lv4 fast but i'm assuming grinding in stage 1 would be a bit faster
in case anyone wants to optimize it
Uhh fine give it to me
so what'd you get
Is there a consistent way to succ cancel the dunestrider? Is it just killing all other succable things?
you can cancel it
can't*, unless you kill it
but you can prevent it from doing it when it's under 1/4 health when it's doing its up attack
yeah, it seems like it's what I said, killing all other succable things
you can detach from his succ and go right back and he won't succ you again
so run away and back to avoid it
Even if there's other things he's succing?
doesn't he have dmg resist and selfheal while doing it
well if you find a better ttk than what i have in my video lmk
how long does a prismatic trial usually take
I think almost beat your time, but I got greedy and died in a stupid way
nice, whats your pb?
Still working out the kinks of the route
if you beat it i'll probably try to go for some optimization
Still haven't actually cleared, if a run is going bad I just scrap it
He always does laser right as I'm about to have a really good run
hug him and he doesnt
and it's blazing laser so it just demolished me
theres a pole to your left hide behind there
I just got back from the bars so it's obv time to set a WR cabbage
@meager ravine if the teapot has no things its eating health bars from, the ability is cancelled
this includes you, and anything like a single monster
Yeah, figured that out, kinda sucks if you get bad enemy rng
and aren't able to cancel the succ
yep, but the good thing is if t here's only one enemy it's attached to, you can stop it
because i had a lot of annoying encounters with the damage reduction lol
also i figured out there's a minimum hitbox to the teapot
like i was playing mul-t and i was succed the closest i could be and i was shooting into it with no damage output
frik I think I can get sub 2:30 on arti but the elder lumerian that sits inside daddy blazing titan keeps eating my ass
You're already sub 3 forgot?
havent cleared yet but died with stone titan at ~250 hp at 2:18
damn, that's fast
now if this asshole dunebitch could stop succing me through solid map that'd be great
this is the first trial that is making me genuinely upset
Oh I've already been pretty mad at other ones this will be no different I expect.
How fast do you usually clear 1st stage?
dunestriders are legit some of the worst boss design I've seen in a videogame
usually hit the tele to leave anywhere from 1:14-1:18
And how many items do you have not including the leeching?
If you're getting almost 2:15s then I feel like I'm majorly messing up
dunestriders are fun
this was at least five of my deaths today where the rolling things get stuck on the acqueduct
having really good luck standing on pride rock, you can basically just stand there unless a wisp decides it want to use it god knockback to knock you half way across the map
Yeah big rock is where I go
yeah i didn't know that earlier
And FUCK THE WISPS
but i beat the trial with artificer and that's all i wanted to do
and then i cleared it with huntress in like 3:59 or something
why the unholy hell will the succ tether not break sometimes
sometimes i just said. whatever, and let it succ me
O I lied earlier I'm picking up the cube and the seed. Right before he does the succ I send all the adds away to neverland so he cant heal and cancels his succ faster
oh damn that's smart
Yeah I thought about doing that but I was afraid it would mess with reaching lvl 4
@slim lintel is the trial not rteally that bad?
its actually hell incarnate my mouse may not survive
lol
