#prismatic-trials

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cyan stratus
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s^

polar mist
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thanks again

cyan stratus
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you can watch my scuffed 2:21 if you want

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but theres better rng reliant route

polar mist
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link?

cyan stratus
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uhhhhhhhh

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give sec

fallow breach
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nah dont look at his faster time, go look at my slower 2:34 lmao

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if I ever had the mental capacity to sit and fish for a crit I'd spend more time on this shitty ass trial TT.TT

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push sub 2:30

cyan stratus
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yea im on my phone sorry no link

fallow breach
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i cna go grab it for you

cyan stratus
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pog

polar mist
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thanks!

zenith plinth
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LFM VC 7 NA monsoon

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109775240984708648

dusk ether
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that's pretty much the same route I took as arti

chilly trout
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Lmao slowmode? You guys partying or what

pearl eagle
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Clearly this chat is out of control

fallow breach
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its poppin

warm gust
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All chats got a slowmode, I think?

chilly trout
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maybe one chat was going crazy so they did it to all chats

cyan stratus
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lmao

gloomy zinc
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other achievements work in trials?

cyan stratus
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we like to party

gloomy zinc
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cause if not then rip crab farm

chilly trout
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@gloomy zinc not sure i think so

pearl eagle
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Pretty sure they work

gloomy zinc
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could use another profile to test?

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gonna

chilly trout
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it doesn't matter if you do it on your main what do you have to lose?

verbal axle
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Time crystal jumping is poop on mult unless ur bugged

gloomy zinc
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i have quite a bit of achievements on my main and i dont want to waste effort

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lmao just told family "rn im gonna chase hermit crabs off a cliff to get an achievement" to avoid

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theres always a buckler so would huntress be best?

chilly trout
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i used engi

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just don't pick up drones because they'll kill them while you chase them off

gloomy zinc
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thx for the reminder. man these things are great for achievement farming

hoary edge
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whbat does

cyan stratus
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good question

gloomy zinc
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fk this

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only killed one via falling. im a drizzle for a reason. this is bs

fallow breach
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lmao rug, do you just call people retards often?

frozen lintel
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just TRIED to do the prismatic trial, and guess what? for stage 2, i got a blazing wandering vagrant

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AND i was a mecenary (the AOE attack was going off every other attack)

pearl eagle
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Get the preon, makes the fight a whole lot easier

frozen lintel
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dunno where that's located lol'

pearl eagle
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It's in the ruins not that far from spawn on stage 2, in an equipment canister

frozen lintel
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huh, alright then, thanks

fallow breach
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yeah slow killing that flamey jelly sounds awful

frozen lintel
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yup

fallow breach
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I still die like 40% of the time to his AOE becuase i dont preon crit TT.TT

pearl eagle
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No crit = insta reset

fallow breach
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I always thing

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hey i could get slightly faster htan my old time, i should keep pushing

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then i die

pearl eagle
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What's your time at rn?

fallow breach
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i haven't pushed in about a day so its still chillin at 2:34 i think

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I've never crit preon i might add

pearl eagle
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Never?

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jeez

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Hope you're not forgetting to pick up the glasses

frozen lintel
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either i've made the beetle queen mad, or there's just a ton of beetles spawning

pearl eagle
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beetle?

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Did you get one of the random events?

fallow breach
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hold on ill link my run recording

frozen lintel
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just, beetles, on the first stage lol

fallow breach
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🀷

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i watched your strat of shifting that third crystal to the far one

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but that seemed tuff

cyan stratus
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i do a ton of runs and only beetle once 2nd stage

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tbh seems like it could save a good second

fallow breach
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what kind of beetle is it?

cyan stratus
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flaming

fallow breach
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awh

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if it was a shielded beetle that would be killer

cyan stratus
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i didnt preon crit it so i couldnt compare time

pearl eagle
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I mean, the biggest time save you would be is to shoot preon early and get a crit

frozen lintel
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finally found the preon, thanks for the tip

pearl eagle
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Other than that it's just making sure all the movement is more or less perfect with as little downtime as possible

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Also if you want you can try the route cabbage found

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Although it's a lot more difficult to pull off and it's really inconsistant

frozen lintel
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still got the vagrant sadly, but it's much faster now

pearl eagle
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You will almost always get vagrant

cyan stratus
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^

pearl eagle
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I've never gotten the beetle, but got wisps once

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Which was really annoying cuz I got a crit too

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But they were spread out 😠

cyan stratus
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if you get warning message at begninning it's different

frozen lintel
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oof

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YEEEEEE, finally got prismatically aligned!

fallow breach
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ive never seen the beetle

frozen lintel
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i think i did once, then again, you can't be sure lol

cyan stratus
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i've probably done more runs than you and only saw once

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very rare to get it

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@pearl eagle any strat for not flying in a random direction when ramming into titan?

frozen lintel
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that moment when the overloading worm is your boss to fight in the prismatic trials:

pearl eagle
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No cabbage

fallow breach
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cabbage, you just gotta aim better

pearl eagle
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Sometimes you just go flying past him, sometimes you bounce toward the teleport

fallow breach
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I find using the like, slanted hill that leads into the hole, it works well to control it, and hten the last one I just put myself between the tele and him

cyan stratus
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so inconsistent

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1st two rams good btwn the rock and titan

fallow breach
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i fly over the rock and he lasers me

cyan stratus
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3rd i want to bounce to tele but sometimes i end up flying sideways

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i just want a decent time so i can upload video and cat can get a 2:10

pearl eagle
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I've given up on runs until I'm able to steal your route. Not gonna do runs if I know my time is going to be beat anyways

cyan stratus
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lol i can screenshare if you want

pearl eagle
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Nah, not necesarry

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But once you beat me, you better upload a vid of it

fallow breach
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you better beat him

livid goblet
cyan stratus
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gz

fallow breach
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gratz as fuck

livid goblet
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Ty πŸ˜„ Been trying forever

cyan stratus
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@pearl eagle how did you get 1:02 portal interact in your video, i avg around 1:00 - 1:02?? while i activate at 35

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hmm i think my fight is very suboptimal

pearl eagle
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I mean, I do basically what I do in the video

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Use nade then charge as soon as charge comes off cooldown

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Other than that just shoot I guess

livid goblet
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can somebody link cats run with the 1:02 activation? I wanna watch it

cyan stratus
livid goblet
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Oh his 2:14

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Didn't know it was that video lol

pearl eagle
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πŸ‘

cyan stratus
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so maybe

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since my pb is ~59 activation

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is 56 possible with a better fight?

fallow breach
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1:59 activation?

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for stage 2?

pearl eagle
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He means activate teleport after fight with titan on stage 1

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And not sure cabbage, if your fight is suboptimal that might be possible

cyan stratus
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wow, how do you get 0 kb after using roll into the titan?

pearl eagle
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Probably because I don't jump before activation and uphill

cyan stratus
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ohhh

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i see now

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very fast

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dude
i hate critting the tar crystal and then missing the third shot

pearl eagle
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Generally just throwing runs after crits is really heartbreaking

cyan stratus
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hmm

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1:46 2nd portal activation

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while picking up the barrel

pearl eagle
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Damn that's pretty good

cyan stratus
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i honestly cant find a way to get the 2 lemurians without losing time

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so unless one just comes and dies during the fight i have to grab the barrel

pearl eagle
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Something I try to do is turn around while boss is spawning to see if one of them is hittable, so if you hit it with a nade earlier it's oneshot with railgun

cyan stratus
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one always spawns lower, by 2nd crystal

pearl eagle
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Doesn't happen very often, but it does happen sometimes

cyan stratus
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i always get the 2nd one that spawns while grabbing glasses though

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lol when i kill a crystal and it spawns the coin and i have to wonder if it's worth going for

pearl eagle
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lol

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Hardest decisions require the strongest wills

cyan stratus
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jesus

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1:44 2nd portal but no crit

pearl eagle
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That's fast af

cyan stratus
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guess what though

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i double crit the tar crystal lmao

pearl eagle
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Ah

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That makes sense then

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But still, if you get a run like that I'm probably not going to try to beat it

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Not gonna hope for more than one crit to beat someone

cyan stratus
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tbh i only gained like 0.8sec or w/e

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i shoot the crystal on the way to the portal

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found a consistent lv4 1:00 1st portal strat, coming for ur time πŸ‘€

pearl eagle
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Somehow you still manage to find new strats

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jesus

cyan stratus
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it's just a matter of "shoot this lemurian at this time"

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but i can get both kills w/o significant time loss

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very consistent

livid goblet
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Mind sharing?

cyan stratus
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so basically, the more time you spend in the level, the slower your time, so my strat is to try to beat the two stages in as little time as possible to get the fastest time

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you know when you miss preon but the aoe shows that it would've crit

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πŸ™ƒ

bold falcon
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ive had no time to run this trial

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god damnit

cyan stratus
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it's not fun

echo venture
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Yo cabbage, you got a link of the current route people are using?

cyan stratus
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idk what people are using

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i'm coming up with my own strats on the fly basically

echo venture
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I've only managed 2:29 or something

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Oof 2:39

cyan stratus
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i have a theoretical ~2:09 that didn't crit

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i might just upload that and be done with it

echo venture
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rip

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Aren't there runs under 2 mins at the top?

cyan stratus
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cheaters

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anyone can cheat engine it and modify damage and speed numbers

echo venture
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I see.

cyan stratus
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legit wr is 2:14

echo venture
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ok cool

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So I'm not as behind as I thought.

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I'm about to try an idea out on your route.

cerulean sorrel
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: )

hoary mulch
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imb4 nothing spawns

cerulean sorrel
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XD

cyan stratus
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it's over

chilly trout
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damn nice!

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lmao you got the crit?

cyan stratus
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@pearl eagle your turn

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yea finally crit

pearl eagle
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Wtf, I quit

cyan stratus
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stage 1 was bad

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you have a good chance

pearl eagle
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Give me a vid of the route, and I'll give it a couple of gos

cyan stratus
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editing, uploading etc

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~20min bad internet

pearl eagle
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I gotta go to bed soon anyways, might have to wait until I get a chance tomorrow

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Doubt I'll beat it, won't have a lot of time to play tomorrow either

cyan stratus
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the strat i use is actually extremely consistent

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it's just aim and crit reliant

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if you dont get 1 crit on the tar crystal it's p bad

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29.5% chance each run to get a crit on it πŸ™ƒ

pearl eagle
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That + the crit on preon

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Yikes

cyan stratus
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3.2% isn't too bad :D

pearl eagle
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...

cyan stratus
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i lost ~1.5sec on titan btw

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1st portal like 1:01

pearl eagle
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You got a new strat on stage 2?

cyan stratus
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nope, just that yours was bad

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crystal optimization was pretty lacking

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and you waited with preon

pearl eagle
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Oh, really? Didn't think it was that bad, but I guess it was then

cyan stratus
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yeah it's strange that i saved the most time on stage2

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while my new strats were stage1

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that's why i'm saying you have a very good chance to beat

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you're 100% better than me at playing, it's just that i'm better at making routes πŸ™ƒ

pearl eagle
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Well, I'm quite intrigued as to your stage 2

cyan stratus
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it's really nothing special

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you just have to click and press sprint right after to optimize

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i didn't even get any crits on crystals

pearl eagle
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Pretty sure i did sprint shoot, but I guess I'm just slow or something

brittle heron
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what do i have to do to complete a prismatic trial

cyan stratus
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beat 1st two stages

brittle heron
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how did you get two minutes

cyan stratus
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what were you doing??

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@brittle heron basically just optimize a route and beat it fast

pearl eagle
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Oh shit I wasn't sprinting at those two shots

cyan stratus
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yeah dude that's a solid -2sec

brittle heron
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oh okay

cyan stratus
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there's no legit 2 minute time though, people cheat

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so don't look at the top scores and take them as being legit

little oasis
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lel

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i figured as much

cyan stratus
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i think the fastest possible is ~2:04

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and that's with crits on literally everything

wooden light
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wait do we have a new trial?

cyan stratus
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yeah as of 2 days ago

wooden light
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or is it still shitty jelly fishing

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nvm

stuck lodge
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FΕ±cΔ·

wooden light
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shitty jelly fishing

stuck lodge
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Øâf

cyan stratus
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you ok

pearl eagle
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No, I need sleep but you aren't letting me

cyan stratus
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wasn't talking to you πŸ™ƒ

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otherwise i @pearl eagle

pearl eagle
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I was rather aware, but felt like letting you know where my mental state is at rn anyways

cyan stratus
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i completely understand, i'm not in the best mental state either, i've pretty much done nothing except my classes and this prismatic trial for the last 2 days

chilly trout
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^

cyan stratus
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360p right now b/c processing but have fun anyways

pearl eagle
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Holy shit I never noticed you could hit the first crystal from just that hill

cyan stratus
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???????

pearl eagle
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I noticed from the rock but that just made everything slower

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man I'm slow sometimes

cyan stratus
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lol i also tried from the rock

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tbh it doesn't save a lot of time over your route

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since with the roll it syncs badly

calm cedar
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I was doing it from the rock as well

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but it wasn't panning out as well as just rolling down to the pillar and shooting the crystal way off the the left of the spawn

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i've had 1 crit in about 200 attempts so i'm hanging the boots up for this trial

pearl eagle
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1/200 is like suuuuper unlucky bro

calm cedar
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i bungled my way to the finish almost as bad as my blind run and got a preon crit for a 2:30 finish. I cannot be bothered fishing any further

pearl eagle
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Are you sure you are picking up those glasses?

cyan stratus
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^^^

calm cedar
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yup every run, glasses out the cloaked box

pearl eagle
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yiikes

cyan stratus
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yikes, i thought me getting like 30 non crits in a row was bad

pearl eagle
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Honestly, it looks like the most noticeable time save you have compared to me is the vagrant kill time

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You kill it like a lot faster than me

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maybe you got more hits with the aoe on the preon

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Well

cyan stratus
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yeah i was surprised on the ttk aswell

pearl eagle
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I improved my time with about 2 sec just now

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A disgrace of a run

cyan stratus
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very fast, gz

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my wr stands for 30 more min

pearl eagle
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But got the crit and my ttk on boss was faster because a stood a bit farther away from it when my preon landed

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was fired*

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I'm going to try for like 20-30 more minutes

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I should have been in bed like 1.5 hours ago

cyan stratus
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btw are we the only 2 with sub 220?

pearl eagle
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I got moved further up on leaderboard so I can only see to 2:17.76

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That's a MUL-T so could be legit

cyan stratus
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i just feel like everyone else is fed up with grinding crit preon lol

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i don't blame them tbh, i am too

pearl eagle
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Yeah, it's not as fun as something that requires pure skill

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Well there are still like random crits on all char

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But the crit preon is just so huge

cyan stratus
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i feel like they should remove crits from prismatic trials

pearl eagle
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Atleast the base 1%

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But then again, crit glasses still exist

cyan stratus
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then there's still 10% crit preon with glasses

pearl eagle
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sigh

drowsy jetty
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convert all crit into increased base dmg?

pearl eagle
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What do you mean?

marsh tapir
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if you get crit glasses, instead of getting a 10% chance to do double damage, your attacks just do 110% damage instead

drowsy jetty
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i guess all chars start with 101% base dmg

marsh tapir
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they could just remove the 1% chance to crit instead

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all i want are crits out of prismatic trials, speedruns should be about working on become more efficient to improve your time, not getting lucky

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like you could get blessed by god's rng and crit literally every hit and if you did your route pretty efficiently nobody else wouldve have a chance to beat your time

chilly trout
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yeah i don't think the fastest time should be because of luck

strong glen
pearl eagle
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Random event

chilly trout
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a beetle cana also spawn it's idk what the activation is for different bosses thoufh

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though*

pearl eagle
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Says a warning in the chat whenever there is something like that

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The fact that those are actually random and not seeded is a bit weird actually

strong glen
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Yeah I found it strange, kinda caught me off guard

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Didn't know that

pearl eagle
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@cyan stratus Managed to get a 2:10.46

cyan stratus
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nice

pearl eagle
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Would love to continue, but I really need to go to bed

cyan stratus
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you can easily beat it tomorrow if you got a 2:10 so fast

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good night, gl tomorrow :)

pearl eagle
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Well I was pretty lucky with my preons rn

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Had I gotten a crystal crit on the one behind tar I would probably have beat you. Might go for that a couple times tomorrow. Anyways, good night

sonic raven
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Hello, I'm new here to prismatic trial speedruns, and I am currently trying to recreate Cabbage's run video, and, for the vagrant boss, are you trying for a crit on preon to instakill?

foggy star
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just poppin in to say that im not a fan of rerolling runs over and over again for lucky crits, it wont be included next patch but ill see if theres an elegant solution

brittle heron
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hopoo

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can you confirm deny whether or not Sniper will be female

chilly trout
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@foggy star thank you it will make things more consistant and fair

livid goblet
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@foggy star ❀ 😍 πŸ‡Ή πŸ‡­ πŸ…° πŸ‡³ πŸ‡° 😫 πŸ‡Ύ πŸ‡΄ πŸ‡Ί absdbads

foggy star
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although there are some concerns that instead you'll just try to roll lucky missiles or ukulele or w/e but thats probably less likely

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as in less influential

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it would also be nice if people had to pick up more items to get good times, since that is a lot of what's interesting, but its hard to make the optimal strategy not typically going straight to the TP every time

brittle heron
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maybe two seperate leader boards? one for points one for time?

chilly trout
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you guys have any idea what you're gonna do about the hackers?

brittle heron
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and maybe a combined one where you try and balance between points and time for best possible score

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i dont think its worth worrying about hackers right now

chilly trout
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yeah but i just want to know their thoughts on them

foggy star
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theres typically no way to prevent entries in the steam leaderboards

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even if we could verify, cheat engine would sadly still be a thing

chilly trout
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well damn

brittle heron
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players with vac bans can't participate in the prismatic trial leaderboards could be like
a really band-aid tier fix

chilly trout
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well i think separate character leaderboard would be nice

pearl eagle
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@cyan stratus So yeah, I couldn't sleep and accidentally beat your time by 2.5sec

chilly trout
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@foggy star I have a question, bosses with shield, was it intended for us to get them to half health when they spawned?

foggy star
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sorta an oversight, its fixed for next patch which is a bit of a shame for prismatic because it was a cute little tech you could do

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but it was also the same reason you lost half your health when you got wake of vultures

chilly trout
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i see damn it thought it was a cool tech for trials

brittle heron
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sniper female ?

pearl eagle
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Someone has their priorities straight

slim lintel
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drone AI manipulation will be the new meta after preon crits are nerfed

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cirThink Y'know drones are solid, wonder if theres any tech we can do with them by jumping on them after buying them

pearl eagle
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Does that mean you can buy one and jump onto it to fly away?

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Sounds really amazing tbh

slim lintel
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maybe

chilly trout
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that would be lit

slim lintel
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gonna play around with it rn see if it works

chilly trout
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playing with a friend and he just left it's been 30 mins

pearl eagle
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I'm pretty sure I'm done with this trial now

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Pretty sure I've peaked

brittle heron
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insane run gg

pearl eagle
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Got really lucky with crits. Crit on crystal, crit nade on boss and then the crit on preon

slim lintel
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crit happens

pearl eagle
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Also the new route from Cabbage, and the little tech with preon saves a good amount of time

cyan stratus
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whoa ok i disappear for like an hour and all this happens

pearl eagle
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cyan stratus
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i didn't expect dev to actually care about prismatic trials, that's insane

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nice run btw, knew you'd beat me (:

echo venture
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well rip my dreams of getting wr on this one.

cyan stratus
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really nice to have confirmation that lucky crit fishing isn't the future

brittle heron
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what do you think a good fix would be

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just outright crit removal maybe?

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i dont know how to make it not luck based

echo venture
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I mean yeah it's not exactly an easy fix, the game is so based on luck there's not a lot of great ideas to fix it.

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Like if you removed crits entirely the blazing vagrant would be hell.

cyan stratus
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lmao i just watched your video @pearl eagle

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dw i'm laughing with you

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you literally took my exact route and wrecked it lmao

pearl eagle
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I actually feel mean, because you genuinely deserve this one

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Was just really lucky with my crits

sterile plaza
slim lintel
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that whole video was crits and giggles

cyan stratus
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at least my name is said in the legendary WR video /shrug

pearl eagle
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legendary

cyan stratus
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hey dude, i make the route and you play it

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we got a partnership going on now

pearl eagle
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Shame I won't have access to my computer for like the two next trials

cyan stratus
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F

pearl eagle
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So you're gonna have to run those for me buddy

cyan stratus
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dw i'm not that bad at the game, i think i can manage a good run here or there πŸ™ƒ

pearl eagle
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πŸ‘Œ

cyan stratus
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hmm so your stage 1 is 58 sec. flat, that's basically my pb

pearl eagle
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I'm pretty sure I got some good damage on the vagrant with the crit on the nade I threw

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Also tried quite hard to give my preon a good distance to fly so it did a lot of AOE damage

cyan stratus
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yep you just had to get a crit on your nade

pearl eagle
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

cyan stratus
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dude wtf are you doing at 1:21

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lmao

pearl eagle
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shhhh

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I have a tendency to really want to destroy that crystal before I get my shift, and you can see me realise I don't have enough time to go for another shot

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Too short attention span for a 2 minute run basically

cyan stratus
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i actually just lost wr because i can't aim

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not even kidding lmao

pearl eagle
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Damn, FeelsBadMan

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What did you miss?

cyan stratus
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stage 2 2nd crystal

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just straight up missed it 3 times

pearl eagle
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oof

stone pumice
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what is the best way to not heal while charging the teleporter?

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im trying to get the 10% hp charging teleporter and the get to 3rd teleporter challenge

cyan stratus
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?

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wrong channel, try game discussion

stone pumice
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oh wait what why am i in prismatic

cyan stratus
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lol np

stone pumice
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:monka:

cyan stratus
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@pearl eagle i just 2crit tar crystal and crit both of stage 2 crystals

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1:43 2nd tp but no crit preon

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ridiculous how rng works sometimes lol

pearl eagle
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Damn dude, that's cruel

cyan stratus
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since i record everything i might just upload an entire reel of those moments πŸ™ƒ

pearl eagle
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Haha, that would probably heartbreaking to watch

brittle heron
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how many people are even doing it legit

cyan stratus
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about 4

brittle heron
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are they all in here

cyan stratus
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yea

chilly trout
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@slim lintel have you tried getting a better time?

cyan stratus
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alright, i'm done with this trial, no further optimizations possible and it's literally just fishing for crits which isn't enjoyable
i'm happy with how optimized it's become, i honestly don't really care that i don't have wr because we're all working together to get a good time anyways, and there's no rewards so it doesn't matter

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if anyone else wants to try, good luck

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but until the crit situation is fixed i'm probably gonna take a break πŸ™ƒ

chilly trout
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I'm still gonna do the next trial I'm just happy i pushed myself to get #1 arti spot this time

cyan stratus
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yeah, i'm technically #2 legit but it really doesn't mean anything since nobody is really trying

chilly trout
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it does mean something

cyan stratus
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ehhhh

slim lintel
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Nope, probably wont dont like this trial at all

cyan stratus
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not everyone has the time to go for runs like me

chilly trout
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means you feel more passion for the game

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lol

cyan stratus
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it's literally time gated, currently the chance for wr with doing everything perfectly is ~3%

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0.11 * 0.89^3 for a chance, then extra *0.11 for more time save on crits

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1-0.89^3 *

slim lintel
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new trial is tomorrow night right?

chilly trout
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yes

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i have a feeling about this one

fallow breach
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a feeling, any feeling, its a bad feeling tbh

chilly trout
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no good lmao

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can't be negative

cyan stratus
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i tried updating my video description to say there's a new wr and accidentally wrote a book

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anyone else have strong feelings about this trial in particular? πŸ™ƒ

chilly trout
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what do you mean by that?

cyan stratus
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uhhhhhh

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rng etc.

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compared to prev. trials this one is most rng dependent i think

chilly trout
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yeah i think it turns a lot of people away because they don't have time to try and grind it out

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I'm glad hopoo addressed the crit situation and they plan on trying to do something about it

cyan stratus
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definitely. i see a bunch of people get like a sub 4 and they're happy

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and honestly, it's not bad because who wants to grind out those crits

chilly trout
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but it makes me think the of future for trials that means more people are gonna have times around 3 minutes and that might be optimal

cyan stratus
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nah, i got a 2:25 with basically no crits

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including no preon crit

chilly trout
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well still like it's just gonna be feeling a lot slower

cyan stratus
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not really much wrong with that though

chilly trout
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idk

cyan stratus
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considering wr is 2:07 and my pb without crit is 2:25, it's really only ~20sec difference

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and it makes for more interesting strats

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i remember before i knew a preon existed, i had a glasses + energy drink + ap bullet route

chilly trout
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yeah not saying it's bad just stating how it's gonna be

cyan stratus
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but that got changed to "glasses + preon"

chilly trout
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i just want more character to be more viable

cyan stratus
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with more character do you mean "arti"

chilly trout
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i don't like how every wr on every trial so far has been mult

cyan stratus
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(^: (^:

chilly trout
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lol i don't just play arti I actually liked engi before everyone else

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not everyone but i mean before i liked other characters

cyan stratus
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the thing is, the leaderboard doesn't mean anything anyways so every character is viable if we separate using the discord

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for example, i know wr is 2:07.xx but that's with mult, i know wr for arti is 2:29.xx

chilly trout
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true

cyan stratus
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i don't know for any other char because nobody wants to play this cursed trial

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but you get the point, it's already kinda separated

chilly trout
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thats why i want separate leaderboards but that also means they'll be more people at top 10%

cyan stratus
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i doubt they'll ever add rewards for top 10%

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and if they do, they're kinda stupid tbh

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there's a reason there's literally no other game with hackers and rewards simultaniously

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welll... no other serious games

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for example i like to use binding of isaac as an example, top times were always hacked so nobody really took it seriously, afaik there was literally 0 strategizing / collaboration after the first week or so

slim lintel
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gotta get those 5 lunar coins

cyan stratus
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lol i got 5 lunar coins over the course of grinding the trial through random drops

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anyways, heading to bed - gl on future runs

chilly trout
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gn

tawny osprey
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hopoo could accept submitted video records and in some way reward the person that sent it, like how speedrunners do it

chilly trout
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it would be to much work i think

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they said they have no plans to get rid of hackers at the moment, but they said they can end up getting rid of the fake negative times but they don't have a plan for the cheat engine cheaters well not yet at least

warm vapor
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Achieved an excellent time today with Huntress in the Prismatic Trial - 3:32:34 - Placing me just above 500th place. This is my first competing for a good time. Are hackers still being shown on the top of the leaderboards?

chilly trout
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yes they are but I'm very impressed you got a time like that with huntress

warm vapor
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Thanks @chilly trout! Promise no hacking! Just prioritized items and teleported a bunch

pulsar oriole
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Did you use crystal explosion to move

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If not can save much more time

warm vapor
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@pulsar oriole I did not. May try that. I usually used Rain of Arrows to attack it and continue moving on foot. Not sure if it would save that much time.

pulsar oriole
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fair i dont know huntress strats at all

full cloud
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what is prismatic trials

pearl eagle
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You play a game that lasts two stages on a set seed, and try to complete it as fast as you can

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You need to destroy 3 crystals before you can activate the teleporter and spawn the boss

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Some of us go to extreme lengths to try to create really fast routes and get really good times

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As of right now you don't really gain anything from doing them, but they could be a good place to earn some achievments if you haven't gotten all of the unlocks yet

dry jewel
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also its the closest thing to anything competetive here

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since everyone is on equal grounds

crisp hazel
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Unless people just want to yell that they're a better player without any basis. That's what gd1 is for!

signal temple
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should be separate leaderboards for every character

fast phoenix
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I'M A BETTER PLAYER
RAWR
wait this should go in gd1 mb

crystal trench
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I'm a better player!!!

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See!!! Look at my merc times!!!

lament kernel
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how do you see the top times? there doesnt seem to be a way in the game

crystal trench
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there isn't anymore

crisp hazel
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It's all based around your time

cyan stratus
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lol whats ur merc time this trial

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very surprised if sub 3, merc sucks this trial particularly

empty swan
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I would like a trial mode kind of like how nuclear throne does it where it's infinite and based on kills and how far you got

pulsar oriole
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There's also the official speedrun if you want competition

crystal trench
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I'm in Georgia without a pc @cyan stratus

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Just messing around

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But I saw the trial, sub 3 with merc would be hard but I could do it probably

cyan stratus
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nice

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im unfamiliar with the site though

sour cloak
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I did okay

cyan stratus
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nice !

sour cloak
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Omg

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I just had the weirdest glitch

sour cloak
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Much better

pulsar oriole
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but almost all of us are or were ror1 speedrunners

sour cloak
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Oh thats awesome

calm cedar
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I'd like to join the speedrun community but unfortunately I cannot record runs

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not with this shitty potato pc at least

pearl eagle
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I tried doing a couple speedruns earlier, but wasn't a very big fan of the randomness the run is so dependant on. Might try again at a later point though as I have a lot of fun in the trials

pulsar oriole
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yh you have to deal with a lot of randomness

cerulean sorrel
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wont actually be using this run dw

cyan stratus
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so, anyone w/exp on speedrun.com know if having categories for each prismatic trial would be possible?

sour cloak
mild thicket
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If the trails aren't random Cabbage maybe?

sour cloak
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4:16

uneven finch
chilly trout
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good start

uneven finch
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any idea what the higher times are?

chilly trout
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2:07 is wr i believe

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mine is 2:29 with artificer

pulsar oriole
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@cyan stratus not really as they update so often

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and when one passes it cant be retried ever again

uneven finch
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Damn, don't have artificer unlocked yet

quasi fjord
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@cerulean sorrel how did u get that many lunar coins

chilly trout
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he has mods i believe thats how

cerulean sorrel
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I just edited it in word :)

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i cant edit dmg or hp with dnSpy

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wouldnt anyways

chilly trout
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so cheating?

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lol

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i mean it's not in trials so i could care less

cerulean sorrel
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yea i wouldnt do it in trials

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no use for lunar coins, and i dont even really play normal with the 'mods' just seeing what i can do

jagged mirage
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even if you cheat in trials, it means nothing

chilly trout
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yeah it doe

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does*

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it means you're a cheater lmao

jagged mirage
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there are no benefits or disadvantages of cheating in trials

chilly trout
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yeah nobody will trust your times and be skeptical of what you say

jagged mirage
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i can't even be sure if there are any cheaters in the leaderboard because i'm being shown only a handful people close to my time

chilly trout
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yeah some might cheat and still be really bad lol

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but there are negative times at the top 10

jagged mirage
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so cheating gets you:

  1. no exposure
  2. no benefits
  3. no hindrance
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only devs may look at your negative time and smile

chilly trout
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it hinders your credibility

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if i cheated then came into this chat with people knowing I cheating then they wouldn't trust me if i said i got wr without cheating

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but other than that you're right

meager ravine
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Anyone feel weird about having crits in prismatic? Feels weird having a great run being dictated on whether or not your Preon crits...

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Like my preon crit in this most recent attempt I did and it shaved off 30+ seconds of my previous best time

chilly trout
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yea it's crappy but we got confirmation yesterday that they plan on doing something about it

fallow breach
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oh did we?

chilly trout
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hopoo said that he doesn't recommend going for crit because it's not gonna be the case in the future

fallow breach
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oh

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tite

slim lintel
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we got devs up in this bitch

chilly trout
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they don't know an exact fix but they don't like us relying on crits

fallow breach
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this slowmode is actually hindering my way of life and how i type, I'm submitting a formal complaint

slim lintel
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they said they were looking for an "elegant" solution

chilly trout
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"elegant"

drowsy jetty
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id be ok with crit chance just being converted to base damage

fallow breach
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ooh

chilly trout
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what would be a solution though?

fallow breach
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base edamage is constant crit isnt so id say its better

chilly trout
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so just 100% crit

fallow breach
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nah

drowsy jetty
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1 lensmaker glasses = attacks deal 1.1x dmg

fallow breach
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yeah

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or it would be some ratio of percent crit to base damage

cold bridge
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Dude

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Have ytou guys opened the blue orb

slim lintel
cold bridge
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and then grab the active item

meager ravine
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Character specific leaderboards would make me nut

sand glen
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.

cold bridge
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the satellite one

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It fucks the game

fallow breach
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the route still aint faster becuase of the preon crit route tho :c

drowsy jetty
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gesture + active item bug?

slim lintel
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crits + preon ruins it

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just preon would be way more ok

cold bridge
fallow breach
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LMAO

cold bridge
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That

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It can still be played but I fear I may seize

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It goes off multiple times a second

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crazy

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Can I @ a dev?

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oh in bug reports I'll go

slim lintel
chilly trout
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nice feedback I think they'll listen i told hopoo the same thing yesterday when he was in the chat

jagged mirage
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it should go off every 15 seconds

drowsy jetty
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theres a bug with gesture and picking it up before picking up an equip, then picking up the equipment in the same map (i think is how its triggered)

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causes it to have 0 cd

slim lintel
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Should be fixed next patch/patch after

drowsy jetty
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theres a vid where someone nukes the entire bazaar with 0 cd meteors

cyan stratus
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@slim lintel πŸ‘

fallow breach
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hopoo was in this chat?

cyan stratus
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yes

fallow breach
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TT.TT I was at a spring formal and i missed out on that shit

cyan stratus
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dw i got you

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"just poppin in to say that im not a fan of rerolling runs over and over again for lucky crits, it wont be included next patch but ill see if theres an elegant solution"

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"theres typically no way to prevent entries in the steam leaderboards. even if we could verify, cheat engine would sadly still be a thing"

chilly trout
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^ makes me sad

cyan stratus
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= they are aware of the crit problem but it's not their 1st priority, and cheater issue isn't fixable

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so i suggest we head over to speedrun.com, but then again each trial is only 3days so they get 'locked' essentially

slim lintel
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I feel like there's games that can detect cheat engine and just flat out wont run if they detect it/will crash if you start it up afterwards but I think you need an external anti cheat system for that and I hate those

cyan stratus
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ofc there are, but there will always be hackers

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cheat engine is one of many

slim lintel
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cheat engine is the most accessible and script kiddie friendly tho

fallow breach
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just get a confirmation system for the top like 5% of players

drowsy jetty
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well, isaac has greedbutt leaderboards for their daily runs

meager ravine
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add a run watching system with reports, if a run gets enough reports it gets elevated to a community manager for review/potential removal

cyan stratus
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arent those hacked?

fallow breach
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I'm not sure what the cheat engine runs look like, but I'm sure theres some way to hardcode a check against it if its just changing data values.

cyan stratus
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i have a bit of game dev experience myself and a run rewatching system would be ridiculously hard to implement, especially with how (i assume) loading of maps etc. works

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clientside stuff rather than through the server

drowsy jetty
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necrodancer also has leaderboards, though necrodancer has replay system

cyan stratus
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i'm sure you all notice that on your first prismatic trial run of the game session, 1st map takes ~3sec until you can start moving

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but then it's instant load

fallow breach
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a replay system sounds messy

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League couldnt even get a replay system implemented for like 8 years

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and thats the same map over and over

chilly trout
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yeah to much work and would take to long to implement imo

drowsy jetty
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league smol indiana company xd

cyan stratus
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especially since these trials are 'extra content'

jagged mirage
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there's no way of validating the results if everything is done locally on your machine

cyan stratus
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probably ~50% of all runs are just to get the achievement lol

fallow breach
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if there were like community managers in charge of leaderboards it would be 'easier' to like monitor, but that's messy and things should realistically be contained within the game

cyan stratus
slim lintel
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considering hopoo hopped in here to give us some wisdom they at least care about this mode somewhat

jagged mirage
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you technically could call a function and send a doctored result to the leaderboard without launching the game

chilly trout
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the game would have to be more popular to get people just for trials

cyan stratus
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i don't think so lent, hopoo mentioned steam leaderboards

fallow breach
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I've essentially only played trials for the last two weeks

cyan stratus
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same ^

slim lintel
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its already way more popular than they expected

fallow breach
#

just get some VAC system in here

jagged mirage
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yeah, it's steam leaderboards. but that doesn't affect anything

chilly trout
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lol someone yesterday said don't let people with a vac ban participate

slim lintel
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πŸ¦€ VAC will save us πŸ¦€

fallow breach
#

dark souls has some kind of checking system becuase as soon as you hit multiplayer with cheats (I've done it by accident when I was doing challenge runs) you get timeouts/bans for it. and they use cheat engine to edit those values

chilly trout
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^

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i was gonna say

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I got banned from darksouls because it constantly checks values and if things are spawned in within files

jagged mirage
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anticheat in a pve game might not be worth the performance impact

chilly trout
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so you have to play offline

fallow breach
#

I feel like if its speed hacks or damage hacks or any kind of value changes, there cna litterally be a big nasty ass gross switch statement htat compares current level to values

cyan stratus
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including item modifiers?

fallow breach
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not hard

cyan stratus
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then people can hack in items

fallow breach
#

reasonably the map knows what items exist

jagged mirage
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what's going to compare the values? won't "hackers" just disable it?

cyan stratus
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with stuff like shrine of order?

chilly trout
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it's the same seed everytime for 3 days

cyan stratus
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i mean you're speaking logic but it seems like a very big project

fallow breach
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#feedbac and ideas - "I want it to be open source so I can better know what I'm talking baout when giving specific solutions" kek

chilly trout
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they know whats in the lvl because it's a set seed right?

fallow breach
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yeah

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evne if they are passing it to your PC to build on initialization

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they have to send that info

jagged mirage
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oh yeah and your driver's licence

fallow breach
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nah just your SSID

slim lintel
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here I'll give my IP to prove I'm legit: 192.168.0.1

jagged mirage
#

oh nice the latency to you is so low

fallow breach
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mines 0.0.0.0.1 πŸ€”

slim lintel
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that looks like a proxied vpn'd hacker ip reported

fallow breach
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shh im from australia i swear...mate

slim lintel
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cirThink then why isn't your text upside down

fallow breach
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fuq you got me

meager ravine
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LentToday at 3:45 PM oh yeah and your driver's licence

jokes on you i'm too young for a driver's license, brb gonna go hack now

fallow breach
#

my friend has a way he auto types upside down somehow

normal dock
#

ΒΏ

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thats all i got

jagged mirage
#

unicode magicβ„’

chilly trout
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ΒΏoɐɯl sᴉΙ₯Κ‡ ΗΚžα΄‰l

fallow breach
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lmao

chilly trout
#

ʎɐʍ ʎɯ uᴉ ʇǝƃ Κ‡,uop os slɐᴉɹʇ ǝsǝΙ₯Κ‡ uᴉ ɹʍ ʇǝƃ oΚ‡ ǝɹǝΙ₯ ɯɐ I puɐ uǝᴉlɐ uɐ Ι―,I

fallow breach
#

gobba go fast

slim lintel
#

can't wait until they add sonic as a playable character

jagged mirage
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define sonic. is 42 nr-g cans not sonic?

slim lintel
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every time you get hit you drop all your money and have to pick it up

fallow breach
#

honestly a good mechanic

slim lintel
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holy shit sonic build: goat hooves sodie pops and brittle crown

meager ravine
#

that's how brokren crown should work

fallow breach
#

he has that dash attack in later games, so getting the head stompers mark II would also fit

jagged mirage
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no, you need to drop all your lunar coins, which are proper coins

slim lintel
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shit I'm gonna make that brittle crown thing a feedback that would be dank

fallow breach
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I just want the artifact that changes everything into chooseable rarity boxes

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every other one can take its time getting here, command is all i want

jagged mirage
#

do you want to exploit the game so badly?

fallow breach
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its not an exploit

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its a good way to create fun builds and also its a better way that the main line speed run exists, when they get a last level

jagged mirage
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if it's not exploit than what is

slim lintel
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rip guess people don't like fun

drowsy jetty
#

did u not play ror1

jagged mirage
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noone saying it's bad to have command

fallow breach
#

that and being faster at low health were the moooove for the speedrun in RoR1

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an exploit is unintended boons to the player

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this is just a halo skull

chilly trout
#

the bot gave you a thumbs up lol

fallow breach
#

wuah

jagged mirage
#

yes

cyan stratus
#

i just lost a run because i had low disk space on my D: drive

slim lintel
#

D:

jagged mirage
#

D:

patent frigate
#

wait wym

jagged mirage
#

i have partitions C: U: and V:

fallow breach
#

theres like a 20 dollar 240GB ssd

chilly trout
#

$20? where

fallow breach
#

uhh

chilly trout
#

I got mine for $40

fallow breach
#

let me see if its still happening

slim lintel
#

ew crucial

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only bad RAM I've ever purchased was from them

pearl eagle
#

Any1 know how long until the next trial?

slim lintel
#

~3 hours I think

pearl eagle
#

Kk, ty

fallow breach
#

@ hopoo hi I'm a senior CS major graduating in May with no Job prospects can you just hire me on to work soley on prismatic trials? I know the fuck outta my data structures and algorithms 😍

chilly trout
#

gl with that

fallow breach
#

thats my cover letter, i think its pretty strong

slim lintel
#

yeah this trial sucks I just tried it a few more times and cant get a single crit attack on titan with glasses

fallow breach
#

oof

chilly trout
#

i haven't touched it since my best run

fallow breach
#

I've just been too busy with living life and honestly, I think it's kept my sanity from this shitty ass trial

chilly trout
#

i lost a bit

slim lintel
#

50 mins, first one to find the preon wins!

sinful urchin
#

i just did it in 4:22 with artificer and preon

chilly trout
#

nice

sinful urchin
#

3:23 now

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that's as far as i'm going lol

slim lintel
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oof have fun mult mains, you're probably the only ones that are going to get any enjoyment out of this one

radiant flume
#

@sinful urchin 3:23 hours or minutes?

sinful urchin
#

3 minutes 23 seconds

radiant flume
#

Phew

sinful urchin
slim lintel
#

how the frik can you kill a dunestrider as arti with the crap items this stage1 has

sinful urchin
#

yeah i was just trying to figure that one out

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there's a sticky bomb which is cool but

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gonna try with merc LMAO

slim lintel
#

yeah I don't see how this dunestrider will be reasonably possible with arti

chilly trout
#

jesus yeah and no items really help except ap bullets

sinful urchin
#

i got one shot

nimble veldt
#

yo

slim lintel
#

Welp see ya'll in 3 days

nimble veldt
#

you guys got a route already?

slim lintel
#

arti is doa cant kill dunestrider

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πŸ¦€ mult only trial πŸ¦€

sinful urchin
#

hang on i found gasoline and i think if you combine the cube with you might be able to do something

slim lintel
#

afaik gas doesnt really stack damage like wisp does when multiple enemies explode at once

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I could be wrong though

sinful urchin
#

pretty sure it does i just chunked like 600 health as soon as it spawned

chilly trout
#

garbo boss choice

frank hill
#

yeah this is rough

slim lintel
#

first trial where we have to xp/item farm? cirThink

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anyone tried mult yet? I'm guessing he still has an easy time

sinful urchin
#

yeah i can half health the teapot but it kills me instantly

chilly trout
#

yeah i keep dying lol

slim lintel
#

I think its

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ENGI TIME shrooms

sinful urchin
#

i think i figured it out

slim lintel
#

wtf his explosive shots hit through engis shield

cyan stratus
slim lintel
#

dont even tell me thats the stage 2 boss

cyan stratus
#

cursed image

sinful urchin
#

i almost had it again but apparently the dunestride can immediately do the three rolling thing while using its engi attack

slim lintel
#

well this already wins the award for worst trial

cyan stratus
#

it has no crit preon

chilly trout
#

i got titan on the second

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engi is pretty good

slim lintel
#

i got blazing magma worm on second

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yep see ya'll in 3 days I aint got time for this shit

sinful urchin
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i' mstill trying arti and i got the dunestrider to 197

#

thsi fight is all about position

slim lintel
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Yeah I noticed if you stand on that rock a bunch of its stuff misses

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But I'm not about to go fighting a blazing magma worm

chilly trout
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maybe it spawn on a certain time

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i got blazing stone golem

sinful urchin
obtuse scaffold
sinful urchin
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ok i got to the second stage with artificer

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this is stupidly intense y'all

cerulean sorrel
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ok whats up with this trial then?

sinful urchin
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first boss is teapot

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i'm sorry teapot is what i use to describe it with my friend - clay dunestrider

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really hard to do with arti

sour cloak
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I cant even get past the Clay Dunestrider -.-

sinful urchin
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hey i found an unstable tesla coil on the second stage

sinful urchin
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you guys i did it

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with artificer

mild thicket
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o7

cyan stratus
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is anyone actually trying this trial seriously

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or have we just kinda given up on these

chilly trout
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they just hate us

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i think mult can be the fastest still but engi is pretty good

cyan stratus
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whats your pb

chilly trout
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lol haven't beat it

fallow breach
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oh no

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this trial bad?

chilly trout
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lol ye

fallow breach
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fuqqqqq

chilly trout
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worse then that last

fallow breach
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uhg

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whats happening in this trial?

cyan stratus
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i like it better than crit preon

fallow breach
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is it just a longer run

cyan stratus
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clay pot is an rng fest because it's random whether it goes up or not, and that's the only way you can cancel the invuln suck

fallow breach
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I seemed to get it pretty regularly two trials ago

cyan stratus
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got a 3:20 but w/e

fallow breach
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3:20 how many items you building?

cyan stratus
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like uhhhhh

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more than 1

fallow breach
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oh wow

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infinitely more than most runs then

cyan stratus
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whats your pb?

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sub 3 already?

sinful urchin
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clay pot seems to go up when it's at about 2/3 health and 1/3 health for sure

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and then it goes down to the floor when it's at 1/4

cyan stratus
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yeah, down at 1/4 i know

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but i've had runs where i burn it to 1/4 and it takes a solid 10 seconds before it goes up

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and others where it goes up instantly

sinful urchin
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i was having this issue earlier where i would damage it so fast that it would go up while also doing its normal attack and then i would get pummeled by the rolling things instantly

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so.... i would die in about two seconds flat

cyan stratus
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sounds about right

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btw its bombs are leading

sinful urchin
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yep i'm slowing seeing that

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i'm gonna try huntress

slim lintel
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if you stand on the rock next to where it spawns and back a little bit its orbs that skid across the ground cant hit you and its spammy bombs miss 80% of the time

cyan stratus
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mult has falloff

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and the atks aren't a problem if you just dont get hit πŸ™ƒ

slim lintel
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thats right next to it though, no falloff

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its a problem when you're arti with no HP and your R is stupid and makes you slow while you have to literally stand under it to hit it when it stands up

cyan stratus
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α΅‡α΅˜α΅— ᡗʰᡃᡗ'Λ’ ΚΈα΅’α΅˜Κ³ αΆ α΅ƒα΅˜Λ‘α΅— αΆ α΅’Κ³ ᡖˑᡃʸᢦⁿᡍ ᡃʳᡗᢦ

slim lintel
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Im not playing arti though, in fact I'm not playing this trial at all cirHonk

cyan stratus
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yea i think i'm literally one out of like 3 people who's trying

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even the hackers aren't, i'm 11th place

sinful urchin
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i'm 61 with arti lol

fallow breach
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I'll try when I'm home but

sinful urchin
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i'm trying really hard for absolutely no reason

cyan stratus
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same

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uhh i mean, same with me

sinful urchin
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oh i know

cyan stratus
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ur name is sutpid

fallow breach
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3:20 is 11th? I'll fight you for pb lmao

cyan stratus
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πŸ™ƒ

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sub 3 is def. possible but i'm burnt out on these trials

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if i get some real competition for WR i'll try harder

fallow breach
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I'll maybe look later and do some routing

cyan stratus
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do you want me to upload my run so you can leech off of it like everyone else does with my routes?

fallow breach
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Uhh, I'm torn

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Normally I make my own ND don't look at people's for like 24 hours

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But....hmmm if it's a long run...

cyan stratus
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nah it's like 3min

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you haven't played it yet?

fallow breach
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Nah I've been out all day

cyan stratus
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1st boss is clay pot, 2nd is blazing stone titan, no real useful items except glasses, ap bullets, energy drink (terminal near spawn has it for its '?')

fallow breach
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With your route is it like an easy 3 or a trying hard 3 looking for a better strat

cyan stratus
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stage 2 has some interesting items but there's no good route for which items to take

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it's an easy 3, i came up with it in like an hour

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it's very unoptimized

fallow breach
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Oh okay I'll look first

cyan stratus
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for example, i spent about 20 sec in stage 2 farming enemies for lv4

fallow breach
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Oh that's gross

cyan stratus
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i'm sure you can find optimization of what enemies to kill

fallow breach
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Farming always feels like time lost.

cyan stratus
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also there's an elder lemurian that either spawns or doesn't spawn at stage 2 boss portal

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so that's a nice bit of rng for you to look forward to

fallow breach
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Love it those always fuck me

cyan stratus
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lmao flashbacks to 3hour run where i got 1shot by a blazing elder lemurian

fallow breach
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Hmm, I think realistically the goal is for sure hit lvl 4 stage transition since money EXP is uh...better than kill XP I'm pretty sure

sinful urchin
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the elder spawns by the shrine of combat to the right side of the map and may or may not get stuck on it

cyan stratus
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no, another one randomly can spawn by the portal

fallow breach
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W to the ack

cyan stratus
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unless it's the same one that randomly looped around?

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@pearl eagle you still got your computer to try this one? remember you said something about having to leave

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in case anyone wants to optimize it

fallow breach
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Uhh fine give it to me

cyan stratus
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so what'd you get

meager ravine
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Is there a consistent way to succ cancel the dunestrider? Is it just killing all other succable things?

cyan stratus
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you can cancel it

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can't*, unless you kill it

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but you can prevent it from doing it when it's under 1/4 health when it's doing its up attack

meager ravine
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Sometimes it starts it

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then immediately cancels it

cyan stratus
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uhhhh

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never seen that

meager ravine
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yeah, it seems like it's what I said, killing all other succable things

chilly trout
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you can detach from his succ and go right back and he won't succ you again

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so run away and back to avoid it

meager ravine
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Even if there's other things he's succing?

chilly trout
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yes

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once you get away he keeps going but can't latch back on

meager ravine
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No I mean totally cancelling his skill

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Not just the personal succ

chilly trout
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no but he does attack you so it's free dmg

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doesn't*

cyan stratus
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doesn't he have dmg resist and selfheal while doing it

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well if you find a better ttk than what i have in my video lmk

placid raven
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how long does a prismatic trial usually take

cyan stratus
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like ~3min

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this one is a bit longer though

meager ravine
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I think almost beat your time, but I got greedy and died in a stupid way

cyan stratus
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nice, whats your pb?

meager ravine
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Still working out the kinks of the route

cyan stratus
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if you beat it i'll probably try to go for some optimization

meager ravine
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Still haven't actually cleared, if a run is going bad I just scrap it

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He always does laser right as I'm about to have a really good run

cyan stratus
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hug him and he doesnt

meager ravine
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and it's blazing laser so it just demolished me

chilly trout
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theres a pole to your left hide behind there

fallow breach
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I just got back from the bars so it's obv time to set a WR cabbage

sinful urchin
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@meager ravine if the teapot has no things its eating health bars from, the ability is cancelled

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this includes you, and anything like a single monster

meager ravine
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Yeah, figured that out, kinda sucks if you get bad enemy rng

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and aren't able to cancel the succ

sinful urchin
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yep, but the good thing is if t here's only one enemy it's attached to, you can stop it
because i had a lot of annoying encounters with the damage reduction lol

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also i figured out there's a minimum hitbox to the teapot
like i was playing mul-t and i was succed the closest i could be and i was shooting into it with no damage output

slim lintel
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frik I think I can get sub 2:30 on arti but the elder lumerian that sits inside daddy blazing titan keeps eating my ass

meager ravine
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pretty much same

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but not as low as sub 2:30, maybe sub 3 if I get super lucky

fallow breach
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You're already sub 3 forgot?

slim lintel
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havent cleared yet but died with stone titan at ~250 hp at 2:18

meager ravine
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damn, that's fast

slim lintel
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now if this asshole dunebitch could stop succing me through solid map that'd be great

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this is the first trial that is making me genuinely upset

fallow breach
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Oh I've already been pretty mad at other ones this will be no different I expect.

meager ravine
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How fast do you usually clear 1st stage?

slim lintel
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dunestriders are legit some of the worst boss design I've seen in a videogame

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usually hit the tele to leave anywhere from 1:14-1:18

meager ravine
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And how many items do you have not including the leeching?

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If you're getting almost 2:15s then I feel like I'm majorly messing up

slim lintel
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I'm only picking up leeching

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from stage1 boss

sinful urchin
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this was at least five of my deaths today where the rolling things get stuck on the acqueduct

slim lintel
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having really good luck standing on pride rock, you can basically just stand there unless a wisp decides it want to use it god knockback to knock you half way across the map

meager ravine
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Yeah big rock is where I go

sinful urchin
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yeah i didn't know that earlier

meager ravine
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And FUCK THE WISPS

sinful urchin
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but i beat the trial with artificer and that's all i wanted to do

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and then i cleared it with huntress in like 3:59 or something

slim lintel
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why the unholy hell will the succ tether not break sometimes

sinful urchin
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sometimes i just said. whatever, and let it succ me

slim lintel
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O I lied earlier I'm picking up the cube and the seed. Right before he does the succ I send all the adds away to neverland so he cant heal and cancels his succ faster

sinful urchin
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oh damn that's smart

meager ravine
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Yeah I thought about doing that but I was afraid it would mess with reaching lvl 4

chilly trout
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@slim lintel is the trial not rteally that bad?

slim lintel
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its actually hell incarnate my mouse may not survive

chilly trout
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lol