#prismatic-trials
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we can rule together
lol thats why i said stretched rez
ok 30 fps just makes you wanna rip your eyes out but maybe gives a very minor boost to crystal hop
yeah I have screen shake off
eh just shaved a second off still a little under a second behind you
I'm commin' feller
I don't really notice a difference in the frame cap tbh
You guys getting like really noticable differances?
yes
maybe it's luck or we are doing it differently but I've never made it to the tp at 33 second on any of my runs
its ez to get to first tp at 31 seconds
half of my runs i am waiting for it to hit 34 lmao
We're talking about artificier
yeah
^^
lol
it looks hella fun
he is
Just got a survival time 2:11
finally back infront of a computer, how goes this shitty ass trial
fps matters
any of you guys that can do this hella fast stream or upload vids to youtube?
lol nah we capped our fps at 60 and feels like we go farther with crystal hops
@pearl eagle take screenshots
I've got some vids of my runs
as arti for crystal hops?
yes
HJAHAHAHAHA
interesting
i shouold take a look at an arti run seeing as how ive never ever even thought about it
today is my first day doing this and im pretty bad, best run is only a 2:39 with mult
better than most
can we friend each other on steam so we see it on friends @slim lintel
I was just about to ask you that lol
i either fuck up my preon or dont get a crit with it
@marsh tapir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kv53rkxGsk
The start is really sloppy, but doesn't really matter because I have to wait until about 34.6 sec so I get the Titan boss and not hermit crabs. First boss we...
if i got a crit with a preon that run wouldve been at least 10 seconds faster
Here's my MUL-T run if you need referance
thanks ๐
add me @chilly trout you can find my steam by clicking my name
damn nice
If i don't get better I'll probably upload video
and you are only ranked 146 with that god damn
@slim lintel done
how are people scoring higher? especially with engi?
cheats
yeah it sucks but we know whats what in this chat
Pretty sure the best rn is goofy358 with 2:13,33 as MUL-T
all the real legit top times are chatty in here
ic
does goofy have a video?
i need to work on the second half of the run, im so bad at it
I haven't seen a video, but I've seen him in this chat
That's also true
its fax
just skeptical
when the times get nutty, you gotta kinda prove it
also a couple of my runs i got a titan instead of the teapot looking guy, why was that?
def no cheats here :^)
@slim lintel cheater headass
frik im caught
do you guys jump on the first crystal?
I do
Nah, I think you get too much height
if I dont jump they never send me anywhere
i don't jump either
huh
You gotta make sure you aren't standing too far away from the crystal, otherwise you don't move at all
hm my strat on crystals like the first one is be on the edge as much as possible while turning your screen and sprint jumping while the dot ticks the crystal to death
My MUL-T run has a survival time of 2:07
about a sec behind
It's doable
On the leaderboards it should be just about 2:18 I think based off of when the difficulty spikes in the end
tfw golem directly shoots you while you're in the air and you go absolutely nowhere
It do be like that sometimes
i can't do this anymore
i keep pressing the portal at 1:03
what time do you guys do it?
1:03 is decent time
Give me a sec and I'll post my vid
i don't want decent boi
I'm asuming we do something different on stage 2
I keep losing time by missing one of my shots on the upper crystal after falling down
Could still be improved by some margin, especially when thinking about crits on stage 1 boss.
Here's my run with surv time 2:08
My preon got a 1/100 crit, so that probably helped a decent amount
damn you crit that?
Didn't notice at first myself tbh
jesus that was like a perfect run
that run was ridiculous
right?
it can be faster if you're already lvl 4
or only need one pot
but that crit
i dont play artificer but idk why you guys dont kill a crystal at 0:27 for extra money for lv4
money = xp
money -> xp at end of stage
when tele
????
oh
idk when you'd have time to kill it without extending your TP time a ton
at 0:27
nvm just used my brain
does arti m2 work like mul-t
you can charge up while sprinting if you cancel the anim
ye
dont think a fully charged m2 at level 1 kills crystal
dont you have time to shoot 4x when at tele or something?
Getting that crystal i doable and gets you to 4, but you need to be fast beforehand or it will prbly cost time
that crystal takes a fully charged m2 and 2 m1's I don't think thats viable as the fully charged M2 knocks you back a decent bit as well
If you play really well beforehand, you should have like 1 sec to spare while waiting for 34
So you could get the crystal if you land on the right side of the ridge I believe without losing time
eh killing an imp + getting the can next to preon really doesnt waste any time and is less risky
you can get the crystal
i've done it twice just can't destroy the crystals in stage 2 fast enough
big
could have been better but my crystal jump on stage2 was pretty garbo
if only I got a preon crit while sitting next to tele 
2:17 is doable I might go for it tomorrow
arti squad rise up
put those roberts in their place
Just got another 2:08 surv time without crit this time
yeah all I need is a better crystal jump
wasnt used to that one got the angle all wrong
I think you are able to hit the third crystal if you get enough air from the second crystal in stage 2
Prbly wouldn't save a whole lot of time tho, but it would look cool af
eh that'd be a very minor timesave since you have to wait for ap rounds anyways
but cool points do matter
Flashy>consistant
you saw the og portal strat right?
Don't think so
jumping up to the preon and using the m2 knockback to get on mountain
with the crystal below
Sadly getting launched like a mofo from mr. jumpy is way better
idk why I even thought to try the fps cap
maybe v-synch is the future
I hold my sprint button anyways most of the time lol
omg i just crit my R on the boss but i didn't realize he didn't laser at first so he lasered me half way though and i died ;-;
I dont even deal with lasers anymore. I just run around his legs until second flamethrower then fall back behind the pillar near the portal while doing M1s->m2 through the small gap
then third flamethrower kills while going to portal
why does this little golem hate me
like 5th time in a row just jumping like a dumbass
Mr. Jumpy doesn't have time for your bullshit. He's busy jumping
if you look over and it looks like he's gonna be a dumbass ass tag him with a fireball and go to the spot while killing the lower crystal. it might be a bit slower but its a decent salvage sometimes
i just can't get the golem to shoot me so i can't even practice the 2nd stage ;-;
Yeah, sometimes he just won't cooperate
i got 2:13 ๐ฆ idk what i did wrong
igt?
I was only able to get a vod of a time that is around 2:18-2:20. I can upload that if you want
survival time
is goofy the resident engi?
i started the boss at 1:58 but bull ran my sorry ass over
Has anyone tried to come up with a stat involving launching yourself with the bombs by the preon?
i messed around with that a bit and decided it was stupid
but you can give it a try
ye
Just got a 2:10 surv time with a scuffed preon bomb route, bad jump with bad optimisation
Could be used as an alternative if the golem waits a couple sec before shooting
That way you could pop 1 or 2 crystals before going up
But still use bomb explosion as a means to get to armor piercing
2am for anyone else?
yep
tmw you click desktop instead of main menu thinking it's a sign to give up
right? lmao
hermit crabs 4th time in a row at 34sec which shouldn't be happening
i just alt f4
going to bed
how tf do you get below 3min? 
go speedily
I'd love to help more but I'm not able to okay this trial
play**
but if you look up there's probably a video showing how in the channel
I've got vids as MUL-T and Artificier if you want reference
we're a pretty sick bunch of people and I wouldn't be surprised if someone threw a video down for ppl like you who just need help getting below a certain time
all im hearing right now is merc propoganda
Hey guys, I'm new to prismatic trials. Just want to know at what position is top 10% usually at?
Whats the times looking like now/
I believe record is 2:13?
i dont veen know anymore my leaderboards if full of unknowns..
i cant see names since yesterday fucking lame
goffy i still dont see how u get 2:13 with that route
im getting 2:17
and im killing first boss faster
I pretty much did everything I did in that video.The only real difference was that it was less sloppy stuff overall and I got a crit 1%
Yep
Seems completely understandable
Iโm not gonna spam 100 runs average to tie or potentially lose by fractions of a second
Yea basically what happened was I had a 2:16 without the crit and I said screw it i'll try going for the crit and got it like 3 runs later
pretty much just dumb luck
Pretty good tho I think youโll have the best legit run for this one
i think wr is possible with arti
last night i started dunstrider at 1:58 but proceeded to get ran over by a bull
I dont think wr is possible with arti, but it'd be within 2-4 secs
probably I still need to beat your time so I will see how fast I can go
I've been meaning to see what the happens if I blow up the second crystal on stage2 right before I land in it, see if I can get some weird pogo thing going like rocket jumping in tf2
what is wr rn
2:13? I think
When do you complete a prismatic trial?
after the 2nd boss
just get a 1/100 preon crit
i'll only go for stupid stuff like that when there's no hackers and there are rewards
how do you guys deal so much damage to the dunestrider?
i think i keep fucking up my preon or something
get preon, 1shot it with a crit after lens glasses
assuming you're doing mult route
yeah
are you abusing the shield mechanic
whats that
press portal activation button and preon button at the same time, aim perpendicular to the ground where he spawns
if you hit an overloading enemy as soon as it spawns it spawns with half hp
machine gun to cancel shield
hell yeah dude
iforgot who what did u get the arti time to
2:19.74
is his time
but someone did do it faster but they play mult so i'ts not on the leaderboard
My estimated time should be about 2:17.91 I believe as Artificier
But that was with a 1/100 crit at the end
Spent a bit too much time practicing and routing
anything below a 2:10 right now is more than likely cheats or an exceptional route and a lot of luck
i believe goofy has a legit 2:13
this trial started out dumb but evolved in to some pretty cool stuff. Annoying inconsistent stuff, but still pretty cool
MR. JUMPY
lmao
no whats worse are these bulls
literally kill me every perfect run
It is rather annoying, would be better if the trial didn't rely on a crit
if they could quit putting a convenient preon in every trial that'd be great
if this trial didn't have preon not a single merc or huntress would have a chance at sub 3 minutes lol
try it for yourself if you think otherwise
merc can't take the boss health down to half without preon?
have you tried?
Yes
lol i know
his r, q and e don't remove the shield
that's dumb
tbh I think they're going to patch that mechanic out all together eventually
I don't think it's intentional.
it feels intentional because of how shield works to begin with
I think it's cool but it was probably something they never noticed.
look at wake of vultures or whatever, working as intended
idk what that is
^
oh
overloading elites make 50% of your hp shield
i don't understand that item
well
then the shield goes away and leaves you at 50% hp randomly
if it is working as intended, then merc being literally the only character that can't go through shield is the oversight.
It's one or the other.
Huntress can but it's kinda finnicky
engie can with mb2
mul-t can with mb2
art can with mb2 and r
with arti theres still a little shield left
when you jump and m2 as merc your spin has a hitbox well below you, have you tried jumping in to a late m2 right before you land to hit it while its still underground?
Aerial mb 2 doesn't work.
only the first hit of it will come out if you're too low to the ground because it auto cancels when you touch the floor
if it didn't auto cancel it would work.
tbh making his r work for it would be the best option, because having aerial mb2 auto cancel would just feel bad,
either way, I wouldn't rely on avoiding shield if the final boss in these trials were never dunestrider, great wisp or magama worm
I can't wait to see the day we get a magma worm stage 2 boss
now THAT will be real hell.
yeez, not looking forward to that one
oof overloading magma worm trial
getting 3 greater wisps stage 1 on arti with no speed items is actually impossible unless you run across the whole map and corner peak its stupid
stage 1 wisps stage 2 overloading magma worms
how random do you think these trials are? Sometimes stuff feels a little too convenient
Is there any video of the current prismatic trial ?
I have a friend that don't understand how to actually complete it
You ned to pick items to finish it right ?
only certain items for different characters
I did it in 10 minutes with Engineer, taking what I found but, it was not optimized
yeah i don't know anyone who does it with engineer
for a beginner i would say try MUL-T
i did it in 4:30 with engi
but didn't take preon acc
so can probably make it way faster
Is it just me that sees Hopoo having 0.001 time as commando in prismatic trials or does anyone else see it?
nvm its gone now
just jump they're super easy to dodge
or when you hear their moo noise strafe a little bit
Iunno I've only had problems with imps one shotting me
but they ruin my runs like 90% of the time
I have ptsd
when i hear moo i wanna quit already
nic
I beat hat kid :D
wasnt streaming didnt expect to play very long
used cat the bunny's line
gonna beat you an dhat now
I'm so unmotivated
its the route where you golem launch on to the mountain then you drop down on the crystal and launch with it
its not faster
portal is fast for arti
i used to have fastest time iwth portal
ahh
oh idk im talking about mult
how do you kill the boss fast?
yeah I have a good strat for titan that works decent most of the time
Tips for doing PT's?
crystal jump are your friends
Huh?
depends the character
when you kill the crystal it blows up. launching you
I prefer Mul-T and Arti
arti crystal jumps 100x better than any other character for some reason
Mult doesn't go that far but arti is launched like a rag doll lol
i think they have weight
going for wr
gl!
naw
I think I could have gotten sub 2:15 even but I didnt kill an imp so I had to get the other canister next to AP rounds
oof
Get rekt
JackPack Booost
@slim lintel how do you kill the boss fast?
which boss
ap rounds
^
(for second)
i have a sub 3:30 for non portal route on arti (did it as mult and just blew it away....)
ill have to try portal one later
watched your run iforgot. and im surprised you didnt die to the like 5 mobs next to the Ap rounds :u
i get ap round but i mean what order do you use your abilities
that run was bad the new path is much better
hit tele > ice wall asap > pres Q right after while moving to ice wall > start charging M2 right after Q > aim at ground standing almost in icewall and jump as the M2 and Q go off to knock yourself back to the portal while fading away with 3-4 M1's in to R
probably best to use all your m1's actually since I believe they are more DPS than R
but i don't think 4 will finish him
you can cancel R before when you get 2-3 M1 up again to get some more burst at the last second
I'm gonna stream for like an hour if you want to see the line gimme a sec to start
I've been useing bunny's route but just killing the third crystal is inconsistent for me
and the golem is really inconsistent
realistically it's probably lower on the priority list than more stages/items/characters
but could come along side any of those
I wonder if the cheaters are just using our routs but playing on drizzle
wait you can select the difficulty of prismatic trials?
you'd think they'd seperate the score boards that way, or just have a set difficulty for it
no thats why they're cheating
they're changing it to drizzle while everyone else is on rainstorm
I mean honestly, if we could play on monsoon we could probably save a few secs cuz we won't get crabs that early and don't have to wait for 34 ish
do difficulties not effect enemy HP?
Pretty sure it does, so it would probably still be slower
But was thinking the hermit crabs spawns have something to do with difficulty, and if it got more difficult faster we wouldn't have to wait at teleporter
Yo can someone show me the route as Merc ?
merc is dark magic no one knows what they do
Ok ๐
I think the main merc player isnt very active atm, I think there may be another though
I think I'm about to give up on Artificier. Can't find any way to really compete with MUL-T without landing some 1/100 crits
so @slim lintel has the #1 arti time?
my arti run would have been like 2:13 with a 1/100 crit if I was waiting at tele
mul-t and arti seem pretty close this trial
mul-t's path is way easier tho
I'm able to get times like 2:17.80 sometimes as Artificier, but that doesn't compete with MUL-T
Unless you get some serious crit damage on bosses
yeah I only got 2:15 because R crit on titan
so you'd need that + preon crit in one run
I've gotten runs with similar times to my preon crit one
Without the crit that is
Unless there is some routing option we aren't seeing, then I believe crits are the only way to go fast enough tbh
mhm, only way I'll ever get a preon crit run will be on accident. I'll never solely try for that 1/100 waiting by tele and resetting
aint nobody got time fo dat
2:10 is the magic number
You mean 2:10 surv time?
lol, I've been trying out several minor changes to the route, but can't find any that really saves any time
i think it's 2:07
well did you try @slim lintel route where he falls right onto the crystal you boost on in the 2nd stage?
That's what I'm doing rn
How do you boost as artificer?
Use the crystals
If you stand within their blast radius as they blow up you go flying as Artificier
Some characters go farther than others, Artificier goes really far
all chars can but arti excels at it
i might settle for #3 arti
You done any MUL-T runs?
because you can snipe crystals literally anywhere on the map
Pretty much
He's just so straightforward
Artificier route is so fancy compared to him
who are you gonna play for the next trial?
Whoever is faster probably
lol
But will probably dabble in most of the viable chars
Artificier runs in this trial are a lot more fun than the MUL-T one
is there a specific way to get the crystal boost? seem to hop in place half the time
You have to jump before it explodes or you will just jump in place
If the crystal is in a good placement, like the first crystal, you don't have to jump at all to gain the distance you want without the extra height
How far you are from the center of the crystal matters also
but you can't stand still jump and then press a direction you'll just go up
cool thanks
tmw you jump off a crystal and realize it dropped a lunar coin
Didn't even know they could do that
how do you guys do this
like
over 2 hours
and 0 crits on my preon
ive hit the critrate so many times
yup that how it be sometimes
uhg guess its time to come back to this PT and see if a day of not looking at it will help
@fallow breach it won't
have all the prismatic trials relied on rng like this?
no there hasn't
the last one was pretty good
no
cause trying to hit that 2:22 was so tilting
https://i.imgur.com/axG5Qhy.png ๐คข im friends with a cheaty face
how do they cheat?
like a client
oh
how tf has someone made a cheat client
wait nvm it probably isnt that hard since it is single player lmoa
cheat engine just good at messing with data values its used for many games
yee
probably
I claled him out for it in a discord, and everyones making fun of him now
so I'm happy
they should add a discord leaderboard
like a confirmed leaderboard?
if you dont have a video of the entire run your time wont count
well im gonna take a break and play some osrs hope you all have a good night
nighty night
the check is likely something that wil lsay 'if this gets edited flag the account' which while simple in theory, has some likely unseen repurcussions and they got the whole rest of the game to work on so i dont think we will see a removal of hackers for a while
based on this fast mulT run am I seeing that if oyu hit with the preon immediatly you still have time before hte heal?
https://i.imgur.com/iR1qnbh.png hey look its zunts and djchef
ayyy
oof .03
these last few seconds feel like RNG for sure
jesus i don't get a brake

nice
I saw a 2:12 end screen
and thought
this is it
im better than hat kid
i cant do math
I think I need a better golem fight start
I always end up hitting the TP around 1:03
and that needs to be a bit faster
i can hit it at 1:00 with no crits like 40% of the time
yeah im not sure what I'm messing up on that fight
maybe its the grenade placement
but if i can get that to like...58 or even 59 I'm pretty confident on the second half now
i see people grenade and run into him at the same time
yeah im going to try that I jsut watched Hat Kids video
gl
I'm not trying this anymore until tomorrow i need a brake or I'll brake something and i need my laptop lol
2:10 end screen
woo
https://i.imgur.com/i2v0ryJ.png I think I'll start recording now
all these damn mult's
the zoomies my dude
won in 6:57 ๐
goodjob
you beat me by .05 damn!
first they beat zunts by .03 then they beat you by .05, I think they're trying to send a message
i hate this trial
same :)
im on the hunt ๐
uhg, I love when its just a 50/50 on overloading hermit crabs even though im timing it right
yeah that's the main reason i stopped trying for a new pb
even when you should be getting titan you still get crabs
has something to do with fps
reallly...
yeah at 144hz i had to do at 34.6, now capped at 60 i have a ~75% chance to get titan at 33.6
yeah we all capped at 60 now
im v happy with that when I thought sub 2:30 felt frame perfect lmao
lol I was so happy with my 2:31 then I went and shaved 16 seconds off
yeah
I logged on today
with a 2:29
and now I leave a changed robot
a hot 13 seconds speedier
not for the first stage
so first stage straight to boss
yes
Different depending on character and route
^
I don't have a clue about any mercenary route tho
Most people here either run with Artificier or MUL-T
his time isn't fast unless you crit
Itโs obnoxious fighting the pot man
yeah thats why you want to crit
Go for the preon accumulator in the timed chests
Will probably help your time a lot ๐
If you go through teleport it's in the container next to stage 2 teleporter
If you go through portal, it will be on the hill
Got it boss thanks for the info
Down in the 100's it seems to all be huntress ๐ค
commando and huntress dps is doodoo imo
Then again mult bot is up there somehow
^^^ Mul-t's dps tho ๐คข
Was he able in first game?
No it was HAN-D in the first game
i have 81hrs on this already
Lmao I also have tumors and take naps like 40-50% of my day
i had about 400 hours in RoR1. a lot of it was on an older patch not on steam for speedrunning. ive got about 70 in this one
the riskiest of rain is the bestiest of times
Mhm!
i feel as if people are cheating for the prismatic trials ive seen records with 38 seconds like what?
I've gotten 2:14 with video
Yeah I'm sure there is cheating in pris rn... its kinda early in dev and no good anticheat for that sort of thing yet :sad:
Saved 6ms from my previous pb! whooo! Didn't think it was better than my previous run, but after checking before and after on leaderboard this one was appare...
Here's my newest
tyty
i played merc and hauled my ass off and got 1:40ish dont have a vid tho ๐ฆ
Got one earlier, then improved it with 6ms
only 6?
I'm ahead of hat kid on arti
kek
Thereโs a leaderboard available right
arti is annoying and hard but very viable for this trial
Is the global actually filled with cheaters?
lol 1:40?
Never bothered checking bc friendly competition
I wouldnt believe anything under ~2:10
if you wanna know whats what check this chat we're pretty good with strats and stuff
the top 200 people are all cheaters right now unless that 2:14 or whatever is faster than that is under 200th, but i doubnt it
someone said 2:13 but had no proof so yeah
I'm sitting at 238, only believable person I can see is goofy358 at 234
So roughly 2 minutes
With a 2:13,33
Is an average perfect time
2:30 is average i'd say
2:30 is def average
I'm tempted to make a TAS to see what the absolute fastest possible is
if you know what you're doing it is
Under that is probably not possible
2:30 is the above average average imo
dont u dare
go around thinking you might be better than me
because of course you are ๐
if a lemurian didnt block one of my grenades I'd be faster than you right now :c
yiiiiiiikes
also if i just sucked less lmao
random adds bodyblocking vital damage is the worst feeling right after critting a crystal you need to jump with
i wish one of the dev-y bois would comment in this channel to confirm suspicions or potential workarounds to the botched leaderboard
i got crabby boies twice in a row and called it
๐ฆ
if i get 2:20 one more time I'm gonna punch my laptop
๐ฆ ๐จ
i just wanna know theres hope at the end of the tunnel
for non cheat filled leaderboard

no
they are doing major content updates every what 1-2 months?
the problem is i dont know
Donโt let these scumbag cheaters bring you down
not ever good prismatic trial player is in this discord
hey but the ones that matter are
i wish that i could see what i actually look like compared to the big bois
th big leagues
we at the very least have people talking in here posting times and figuring out whats possible
tru
the secret top 5% are in a separate private discord hiding all the real strats just like maplestory 2
yeah honestly forget that people other than us do this
secret railgun jumping tech
u know how you can shift into curved terain to gain a massive speedboost
yeah
what if someone out there has perfectly pathed speedboosting with shift
and wej ust dont know
i don't believe any commando, huntress, engi, merc under 3:00. merc has exceptions
I know huntress has an inf teleport glitch... which would explain all the top players being huntress ๐
what if someone got 3 crystal crits and a preon crit on stage 2? just nebber know :c
my second best run was off the second crystal being crit in stage 2
that felt good
it goes MUL-T, Artificer, Mercenary
huh huntress has an inf tele glitch huh? That explains a lot
I want to see a cheat engine run
ill ask my inside cheater man to record a run, both as bannable evidence, and to entice my curiosities
lmao
aight gn boys 
well this game hates me I'm going to sleep gl on your run who ever is still doing them
whoever said TAS would be 2min is objectively wrong
there's no way this could go under 2:10ish
I said I was going to try a tas... I didn't say what the outcome would be xD
how would you tas this game? i thought you needed windows xp + hourglass for that
i dont have any tas experience so idk
first run of the day and i cut 4 seconds off my record with a garbage run where i missed the lensmakers and went for the 1/100 crit
i didn't even see that i got it so i wasted like 2 seconds minimum farting about with my buttons because i pressed everything wrong
maximum disappoint
wait isn't that the same time i have
nvm i have .30 not .40
1/100 preon though lol gz
slow start, lost like 2 seconds on the teleporter start alone, another second on the end
i missed 3 shots on the crystals on stage 2
and i didnt hit the button for 2 seconds after i killed the strider
i think 2:10 is possible, sub 2:10 is possible if you get a sub 1 minute finish in stage 1
my consistent stage 1 time is 1:02, i could cut it down to 1:01 with better movement and with lucky crits you could definitely go 0:58
you can achieve a 58 with the missile drone but you're lv 3 when you go stage 2
what's your time looking like rn?
Idk i died
clearing the first stage with a good teleport time at like...call it 58 seconds with a lot of luck, still has you only calling the strider at like 1:55 at the best rn is my guess, if you were to get really lucky crits on atleast one of the crystals in stage 2, you could push that time down a bit more, but im not sure if its enough to ever really see a sub 2 minute time
i don't think sub 2 is possible
i mean i have avoided the preon which is necessary just to start the fight and still even if the boss were to suddenly die for no reason the warpout would take you over that 2 min mark
wtf 10 crabs in a row
yeah if you hit the button early that'll happen
dont activate tele before 34:60
i still don't know if there's something causing them to spawn earlier for people
I can safely hit the tele at 33.51
usually anything after 33 and a half I can get the Titan to spawn
Sub 2 min smells impossible
You gotta find some movement bugs to shave off even more time
has there been a prismatic trial yet where mul-t wasn't explicitly the fastest choice

like, assuming best or near best routing and all
and bugs aside
I know that Artificer has been able to challenge this time
The difficulty in pulling off a solid Arti run is ridiculous in comparison to how easy mul-t has been
^
but then again Arti's fastest runs are essentially a blessing of circumstance that allow it, if the portal route wasn't available for this run I don't think Arti would be competitive at all
I'm #3 arti and my time is 2:20
who's the Arti with the 2:15
@slim lintel
for mult?
aye
i cant run arti worth shit
I did my first run of the day this morning and was off pace for my 2:20 record by like 3 seconds at stage 1, missed multiple shots in stage 2 and then got the 1/100 crit on the strider boss and didn't even realise for like 2 seconds
i was ready to quit out and rerun it and noticed i'd killed it so i hit the button and got 2:16.40
lma
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damn are you gonna stay up?
im happy with 2:16, i know i can get better but it's basically dependent on getting that 1% and I'm not really into grinding that out given there's folks with negative times at the top
i don't know about staying up but if I'm awake and alert enough to do some runs I might
Everyone didn't like this trial but they can't deny that it taught us the most about what's possible
i really enjoyed it tbh
the crit gamble at the end is a bit meh
I'd like to see more challenge style events in the game as well
i wanna see team trials
not sure
cause I usually get around the 2000s
too much hackers to try and find out
last night my friend with 15 minutes was near 15k in placement
wow
so prolly 20kish
I have a chance
I usually get around 5-6 minutes
I always spend too long on the first stage
but I find it difficult to beat some of the bosses without at least a few items on the first stage
it's not liek the first game where you have i frames
you can get under 3 minutes as mult easily imo
never
learning the first stage is important, and yeah, if you're not artificer, han-d, merc, or engie then beating the boss quickly is a pain
I like to play huntress
mul-t*, not han-d
huntress has big issues on some maps since you can't freely shoot crystals except with ult
your idea of which characters suck at which stages of the game will change depending on your ability with those characters tbh
the crystals also won't have have her right click bounce to them (though you can still target them with it)
I think Arti is garbage at current in comparison to other characters with Merc a close second but my ability with both characters is way lower than someone maining those characters
arti's probably the biggest feast or famine right now, excluding merc and endgame blazing
arti is garbage compared to others?
if arti can't boost herself with crystal explosions as she paths around she's basically fucked
for prismatics
but there are crystals
her only place to make up for lackluster speed is in bossing except mul-t has great mobility and great bossing lmao
@chilly trout I'm saying that people think X character is too weak versus others. I think Arti and Merc are the two weakest whereas Mul-T is one of the strongest, others will think differently depending as to how they play the game
no, i don't think anyone can argue that mul-t is the strongest character in the game right now
he has the most loaded kit with great mobility and defensive options as well as two really good primaries
he sacrifices an ultimate in favour of getting a second equipment and second primary for it
which is really interesting because I'd honestly have said he'd probably be one of the worst on paper
that's beyond fair and the rest of his kit is super loaded
but he's got 3 base stuns, heavy damage long range primary, light damage short range rapid fire primary and can carry 2 really strong items
he gets bonus armour with his shift as well
i get that they don't like nerfing but at least rekit him so that he's less universally good AND safe
i think he can be universally strong but there has to be areas where others are better in that regard
his sniper needs less range
I think that's still the case in normal play, he doesn't fair as well as someone like Huntress, Commando and Artificer with proc based items. He has no dash. He has no major defensive CD and his stuns can be blocked.
In PT though it'll take some talented folks to break the MUL-T meta
arti's are trying their hardest
nah i'm talking MUL-T, Diana.
What I mean is his gokart isn't a dash
so he can't cross gaps with it

or break falls
commando can't go across gaps either
yeah he can
he just can't go up
if you roll in mid air it'll push you in that direction
yeah but commando rolls breaks the fall and changes the direction of the character
so if he's going to miss the gap he can roll and it'll halt his movement and push him over it
Mul-T just keeps falling but gets pushed forward a lil
definitely good for trials but to be fair his kit's basically built for it
or at least it's built for the runs we've had so far
my tier list for these trials so far is MUL-T, Artificer, Mercenary, engineer, huntress, commando. maybe switch huntress and engi not sure
anyone below 4:30 currently?
@chilly trout yes?
?
someone asked the fastest arti time and who it was
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@zenith plinth a lot of folks here are under 4:30
I mean
You can get a general idea of how slow you are by your rank
If you're like 1k or 2k yeah you have some optimizing to do lol
wish me luck i'm going at this trial again
May your crystal jumps be clean and your ox dodges successful
๐
i had that imp a couple of times
but mostly that other boss
which i'm having a hard time killing
wisps and titan i think
dunno why i got wisps
yeah that sucks