Also those gauge stacks will be fun
#gd2-nullified
tepid wolf
mossy garden
and the Rachis too
floral sundial
you say it like extra levels and damage are an issue
plain viper
Stacking rachi is pretty comf
floral sundial
its obvious im gonna have shaped glass stacked, so everything is gonna die pretty hard, id die in one mistake anyway
tepid wolf
I mean the gauge will just spawn hordes of bosses if you touch any shrine
novel sorrel
Anyhow the armor scailing onpearl is really sad cuz irradianypearl only increases base values. For health, speed, attack speed and damage this isnt so noticeable cuz most items increasing those are multipliers. For armor its really drastic though because the armor items areflat bonuses. You can have jade elephant and 1000 rose bucklers on merc, irradiant pearl will still only give 2 armor since it only i creases his base 20 armor by 10%
floral sundial
no it DOES NOT affect base values
novel sorrel
It absolutely does and its been tested a fair bit
mossy garden
huh, interesting
tepid wolf
Chance shrines are actually a good source of items which will be unusable with the gauges
floral sundial
all health , be that yoru base health, health from knurls or infusions, personal shield generators, these are all affected
novel sorrel
Infusions still only give 100 hp and knurls still only give 40 no matter how many pearls you have
floral sundial
no they dont nall
tepid wolf
Things like tonic and transcendence only affect base health for example
floral sundial
the fact that ive had regular pearls increase the effects of knurls and infusions alone should be evident
mossy garden
Things like tonic and transcendence only affect base health for example
@tepid wolf shield gens adapt to it
tepid wolf
Actually they don't
mossy garden
with transcendence they dont, i am aware of that
floral sundial
okay i cant say id know with transcendence, id have to actually take real note of numbers their
tepid wolf
I mean if harb is around we can maybe ask about the irradiant pearls
pearl hedge
@shut jewel help us out here, do knurls and infusions scale off pearls?
novel sorrel
Shield gens work with pearls cuz they’re a multiplier which also multiplies your base hp. When shield gens gave a flat 25 shield, pearl did not effect them
novel sorrel
Its been tested more than enough for me to be sure about it
mossy garden
ngl i really do love the Shield gen buff
they are so good for just becoming a massive ball of health late game
floral sundial
super strong on loader, cause it gives more room for barrier
novel sorrel
It scales all values base only but attack and attack speed only get multiplied by items so you cant tell the difference
floral sundial
add attack speed and malachites become less of an issue because you cant be stopped building up barrier
novel sorrel
If there were flat damage and attack speed items then id be using those as an example aswell
floral sundial
well now you've made me need to test things, specifically defense interactions, because that wiki is certainly not complete
novel sorrel
Here’s the code for the armor. Irradiant pearl is applied before everything else and therefor cannot multiply any other sources of armor
mossy garden
ah, how garbage
novel sorrel
It seems i was wrong about the health part though. That should increase infusion and knurl health by 10% aswell
tepid wolf
Nice so most characters literally get zero armor from it
night wharf
We’re not getting one in our lives anyways
tepid wolf
Since only loader, merc, mul-t and acrid have base armor
novel sorrel
Also rex
merry karma
+= 😩
tepid wolf
Oh yeah I forgot Rex has armor because of his self damage
merry karma
how does this.something work?
merry karma
like how does this determine what is the thing? is it above? or does it have to be in an if or while etc. statement?
night wharf
I’m kinda curious to
novel sorrel
Im not even gonna take a guess since im hopeless at coding. Hopefully someone that actually understands code can answer that
tepid wolf
I think this. is referring to entities
I.e the player, drones, pots or enemies
this. is a variable that is determined by what took damage I would presume
night wharf
🤔
shut jewel
@shut jewel help us out here, do knurls and infusions scale off pearls?
@pearl hedge yes
shut jewel
It's because the pearl adds to the HP multiplier, whereas armor doesn't have one
true sinew
Okay can you seriously soft lock yourself on guragura
I can’t kill him. He always heals back up
polar anvil
yes
delicate moat
^
true sinew
I didn’t know what they did
tender sand
if you can lure them to the map boundaries they can die from going out of bounds
tender sand
it's like if they fall off the stage. they just die instantly
swift badge
Is there a super fast Twisted Scav? I remember the first time I fought them there was one that was always too fast to keep up with.
visual oar
Gj
dull ingot
use lunar seers
merry karma
winged briar
it was never implied that it was promised
merry karma
what's your fav stage 4
dull ingot
siren's call
merry karma
i prefer siren's call cause i can find the teleporter quicker and i like the boss fight
winged briar
yeah i can see the teleporter on abyssal being a pain but most of the time i find it while opening chests
i like to farm stage 4 and 5
from what little i’ve seen of sundered grove, i can already tell i won’t like it
visual oar
Sirens call because the soundtrack is actually good
winged briar
yeah siren’s call does have much better music
sharp zenith
Thoughts on Sundered Grove? Excited to try it out
dire crow
I thought sundered grove was kinda mediocre
its just another hidden legendary chest
I was hoping for a new kind of stage specific boss or maybe something else
merry karma
or music
dire crow
I play with music off so I wouldn't know
honest umbra
Wheres the legendary ches ton sundered grove?
been pla6ying the level trying to find it
fierce epoch
@honest umbra there are 5 different spots iirc
honest umbra
thats annoying
fierce epoch
too bad it's still a chest
nimble valley
Frankly I think we should be glad there's a guaranteed red at all.
idle gulch
anyone else noticing how smooth the transitions are with the soundtrack
junior lagoon
hot take: new stage looks really pretty but it plays like ass
frosty stream
gilded ridge
Hot take: the
radiant topaz
Ill take it
junior lagoon
i mean it just feels bad if no mobility imo
hazy swallow
hot take: new stage looks really pretty but it plays like ass
@junior lagoonmhm
dull ingot
hello
warm thicket
didnt they say they fixed the melee bug?
versed epoch
That incredible gameplay moment when you go from 100% HP to -35% HP on stage 4 in 0.7 seconds but your technically not one shot because it's two hits
final shadow
technically not oneshot because it wasn't within 6 frames
versed epoch
After losing 90% of my past monsoon runs in the past 3 weeks this way I'm not really up for 100%ing the game anymore
fluid notch
That's fine
versed epoch
One time I died because a glacial enemy died right on top of me as captain
And an imp overlord teleported right as I froze
And pummeled me
I mean I'm focusing in on the boss, and when it died I physically could not outrun the explosion
I was positioned
graceful compass
hey, does anyone know how to get the gesture of the drowned easily? im never getting a single hermit crab to spawn on the plains levels
i only recently saw one and it died by fall damage and not the side of the map
quiet panther
Anyone want to play pvp(Xbox)
brisk gale
what if some chest can be mimic? elite mimic?
waxen girder
what would the mimic do?
waxen girder
and they eat your gold and drops nothing?
people would just press m1 on chests, not really an issue
brisk gale
no eat gold but drops an item inside of them upon death
like if you try to buy the chest,mimic jumps on you and start attacking you
waxen girder
theyd be free items
foggy pilot
still don't get why the merc player turns every fucking common item they get into backup mags
also fungus addiction
topaz owl
still don't get why the merc player turns every fucking common item they get into backup mags
It’s to uppercut wandering vagrant to mythrix
Its to reach the moon without teleporter
vast umbra
I have a simple hypothesis: bad 😏
crude gorge
Do you think they’re gonna add more characters?
vast umbra
If you're asking me? I definitely do not main Artificer...
I tend to play Acrid most? I think?
topaz owl
Then yes merc mains are bad LOL 
vast umbra
I'd actually love to play Merc in multiplayer but I have 800 ping on average 😂
Mainly, and explicitly, because the character is actual shit in MP. Contributes nothing
So you have to play very well to carry
topaz owl
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
vast umbra
And even playing well/perfectly is questionable whether you do so
winged briar
yeah merc is fun but useless in mp
better to play acrid or loader in mp if you want a melee character
(yeah i know acrid pseudo-melee but still they contribute a lot more)
vast umbra
I kind of see Loader in the same domain as Merc... tbh...
Jack most of the items, falls off a cliff in damage while doing so...
So unless you run into generous loaders, they frequently just dick on the game... (IE: Only taking bands/crits and such)
😂 but meh
And Acrid is nice simply because you don't even need a single item, to contribute
winged briar
well most mp games i see don't really go for long runs
so loader's fine most of the time
tepid wolf
Haven't done quick play in ages to be honest
winged briar
it's a server browser on pc now 👀
tepid wolf
Well loader is mainly a bit broken
winged briar
yeah loader is super powerful but falls off more the longer you go
tepid wolf
Bands fall off and healing can be issue but other than that you usually do fine
Loader is especially powerful with ukulele or meathook which deal AOE total damage
topaz owl
I kind of see Loader in the same domain as Merc... tbh...
Jack most of the items, falls off a cliff in damage while doing so...
@vast umbra watch your tongue boy
vast umbra
Bands just don't keep up with the health scaling on monsters... but you should probably Mithrix or Oblit before then 🤷♂️
topaz owl
no
finite sky
frozen hound
nice beads run
pine iris
to clarify, I am not a loader main, I use it because it matches my pfp.
I'm a Bandit main
merry karma
bandit is cool
tired axle
not as cool as sniper either
pearl hedge
not as cool as people who don't steal items
merry karma
but cool
outer swallow
I didnt play bandit much ror1 but I like the shoot as fast as you can tap part
merry karma
it doesnt increase it too much though
outer swallow
Might get tiring though for an hour maybe syringes or something could take over?
Actually wait
merry karma
depends on how you tap i guess
tired axle
so i updated my m1 comparison list with captain canceling:
double rebar is 1200% dps with 2 procs per second
double nailgun is 1516% dps with 13 procs per second
nailgun/rebar is 1372% dps with 8 procs per second
cap m1 without cancel is 960% dps with 6 procs per second
cap m1 with perfect cancel is 14400% dps with 90 procs per second
tepid wolf
Isn't nailgun 0.6 proc coeficient per nail though?
tired axle
yes
tepid wolf
Although I haven't heard of using double nailgun to increase the DPS
tired axle
you can cancel it after the nailburst
so you get 13 nails every 0.6s
instead of 12 every second when holding down
tepid wolf
The 2 procs per second just felt a bit weird
tired axle
it's just 1 shot every 0.5s
tepid wolf
I can't read it turns out
tired axle
oh, i see
tepid wolf
I just read the double nailgun as 2.0 procs from the rebar
tired axle
yeah, i noticed that
tepid wolf
Surprisingly double rebar isn't even that broken or anything
Since it just scales so poorly
tepid wolf
Mainly just holding R with nailgun with rebar is almost the same DPS as double rebar
And you have both a pretty fast firing rebar with a well scaling nailgun
tired axle
the thing is, you can't just hold r for the nailgun things
you have to let go before fireing the nailburst
tepid wolf
The nail burst also has a bit of knockback
tired axle
selfknockback you mean? yeah it's kinda annoying
tired axle
it incredibly noticable when running double nail
tepid wolf
Even though it will be really awful I kinda feel like trying double scrap launcher for the meme
tired axle
oh god
tepid wolf
It will be so reliant on brainstalks or purity though to shorten the reload to a quarter of the original value
tired axle
i think you should get the same dps when just retooling after each missile burst
tepid wolf
The annoying thing will be having to reload more with attack speed
tired axle
since retool also takes 0.5s
tepid wolf
That's actually the reason I never really liked visions of heresy
Artificer is the only exception with her reload M1 because of how fun the nano bomb and flamethrower are
tacit phoenix
the thing is, you can't just hold r for the nailgun things
My fingers hurt just thinking about that
tepid wolf
Captain is also the finger breaker once you start getting attack speed
tacit phoenix
I'd bet. First time finding out that captain can cancel his M1 tho
How does that work?
quartz saffron
shoot, use another ability, and then you can immediately shoot again
tacit phoenix
Ohhhh, that. thanks
shoot, use another ability, and then you can immediately shoot again
mellow mango
these new sounds when you start the stages are really weird
mellow mango
well using taser to cancel also works to be fair
tired axle
but you can't fire 15 rounds a second with that
mellow mango
lol yeah
merry karma
did striker get banned or smth cause i dont see him here anymore
brisk gale
h,,
mellow mango
I have seen him around here a few times
zinc kernel
@merry karma he's been more active on the lab discord
merry karma
mild grotto
dead chat xd
dull ingot
If you really want to see the true power of polyps, why not do a Polyp Run™️?
Polyp Run™️ includes: artifact of command, any character except engi, stacking a lot of bungus, polyps and strides of heresy
Polyp Run™️ can be enjoyed by anyone, just press shift, sit back and relax as your army of polyps kills any threat with ease
Polyp Run™️. Because every item can be viable
warning, polyp run™️ may make you a better person and you'll start caring about your squid bois
inland kraken
THANK YOU
dull ingot
for what tho?
inland kraken
for pointing out that swuid is actually good
dull ingot
i'll have to see how it interacts with sundered grove
i'm 90% sure they'll spawn under the ground
inland kraken
can you make squids as fast as mithrix's ranged attack?
dull ingot
you can make them a lot faster
inland kraken
h-how fast 😳
merry karma
too slow 😎
dull ingot
i don't actually know
the most squids i got was 26 stacks iirc
and it was really fast
3 squids killed celestine golem on stage 7 in 10 seconds or so
i'll have to redo my Squid Run™️ for 1.0
inland kraken
noes
dull ingot
probably with captain
inland kraken
noes
dull ingot
?
inland kraken
noes
merry karma
👃
dull ingot
can't wait for 6 squids at once with double equipment beacon
lofty patio
this is general but cooler
marble verge
🇬 🇪 🇳 🇪 🇷 🅰️ 🇱 🅱️ 🇺 🇹 🆒 🇪 🇷
tacit phoenix
@tired axle Thanks chief, the video was pretty insightful
open cobalt
quick question, does enigma gets rid of the chance of you getting other equipment items from chests/sacrifice?
pearl hedge
No
open cobalt
damn
pine iris
I'm going to do an ordered run
I pick 1 item of each rarity to get every single time, and 1 character
all through a random number generator
pearl hedge
ooops all beads
rancid remnant
welcome to slug, stealthkit, opinon, and genesis loop forever
dull ingot
Objectively worst boss: Magma worm
shut jewel
swarm of many giatn wisp
dull ingot
At least I can hit greater wisp
rancid remnant
somehow whenever i try to grapple a vagrant i end up orbiting ten feet away at mach 1 until I fly off into the sun
dull ingot
Yeah, you have to grapple weird
dull ingot
If you hit the grapple while it’s turning you swing off to side
Just from general observation I’m not actually an expert
alpine current
pretty good run
shut sonnet
Anyone know if ROR1 characters are gonna eventually come to ROR2 or no word yet
upper maple
Bandit is finished and in game files but they haven’t released him yet
rancid remnant
Every ror1 character exists in excellent mod form, except hand-d who is WIP mostly complete and no chef sadly.
Its suspect that we'll get another ror1 character in the next major update, suspected bandit though no certainty.
tired axle
i'm hoping for sniper or chef
quartz wing
chef would be cool
quartz wing
where is the love for my boy miner
fluid notch
He has a mod
quartz wing
im on console unfortunately
fluid notch
😔
rough moth
Does the new stage have a new track?
fluid notch
No
rough moth
:(
quartz wing
i wonder when it's coming to console
quartz wing
that's for sure
but we just got the 1.0 update so it might be a while
so ill just have to bide my time
vague comet
What are your guys' opinion on poison vs. blight for Acrid?
mellow mango
both are good
dull ingot
Poison
mellow mango
poison is better in multiplayer or vs mithrix
tired axle
ask charlie if you want an in depth answere
mellow mango
blight is good for everything else
inland kraken
What are your guys' opinion on poison vs. blight for Acrid?
@vague comet blight spit purity
quartz wing
Poison all the way
tired axle
i disagree
mellow mango
now poison vs blight is eh, I could g either way
but bite vs spit, bite every time
tired axle
i disagree
dull ingot
Spit b/c I’m bad at dodging attacks
tired axle
^
dull ingot
I hide behind rocks
vague comet
So on the one hand, I feel like spit is super important for Acrid to be able to take out flying enemies, and also late-game not dying from having to be up in the faces of enemies
mellow mango
vague comet
But on the other hand
Acrid is a melee character, so it feels like if you're playing Acrid, you probably are wanting to play a melee playstyle; spit strats are like trying to play him as a ranged character instead
I think the devs did a really good job with his loadout if people defend every loadout option he has
Looking at you, default Loader M2
mellow mango
yeah acrid is quite well designed rn
like mul-t and merc
although mul-t still has some issues like lack of alts and scrap launched
vague comet
I'd like to see a new M2 for MUL-T. I "main" MUL-T and I frequently even forget his M2 exists
It fills a niche
But only if you have a particular playstyle and/or don't have Stun Grenade already
tired axle
really easy if he has some of the best m1 in the game
mellow mango
nah, I like his m2
really good for saw
I think he needs an alt utility that lets him tank/avoid knockback
vague comet
I should M2 into saw more... Thanks for the accidental tip, lol
vague comet
What if an alt from his Shift was giving up his Shift entirely, but the defense buff it would give is permanent? (Or some amount of the defense buff)
mellow mango
and it helps with knockback but does not enable bungus in any way
nah, that would be boring
vague comet
But saw go brr
mellow mango
it would just be car form but freezes movement and in exchange gives like a damage buff or smth
dull ingot
Brick mode
tired axle
can we just make mult bastion
mellow mango
^
vague comet
Two of the same exact 3D printer, lol
quartz wing
wack
merry karma
is this flori 🤔
mellow mango
bet
inland kraken
is this flori 🤔
@merry karma no?
mellow mango
what kind of help
merry karma
thanks for the help scrapper
inland kraken
what kind of help
@mellow mango any kind?
mellow mango
like do you need help with the dishes or what
inland kraken
no?
open cobalt
I am ready
I have now 61 ATGs
meaning they deal 18,300% damage
LOOKS LIKE ATGS DON'T DESPAWN WHEN YOU GET YOUR ITEMS STOLEN SO HE JUST FUCKING DIED
I won
underwhelming stats but certainly a good victory
:0 the engi skin is so sick
mossy garden
real gaming hours
paper grotto
ok so after 1 month without playing the game greets me with a nice run
shoutout to shaped glass for getting rid of osp and allowing that 
to one shot me
also, the new stage is nice
dapper island
other than wandering vagrants spawning way out of the teleporter area...
stray kernel
Oh my god I’m really happy. I have been telling my friends about Risk of Rain ever since I got it and two of my friends just bought it and said that they are having fun
They managed to beat Mithrix on their second try
rancid remnant
Woop woop!
azure tiger
Mithrix took me 3 tries
First time i never got to the second phase because i used a shrine of order that eliminated all my damage items
which was before i knew what they did, probably should've looked it up first
abstract abyss
I wanna use shrine of order to turn all my items into soldier syringes
And have infinite attack speed
narrow gate
losing a dope run cause of being an absolute shithead
is the worst feeling ever
i just mul-t drove into a parent for no reason
rancid remnant
I see no issue with this. Mul-t usually destroys things it comes into contact with, yes?
narrow gate
i was the one destroyed thi stime
despite having 12 dagger, the smashy hammer thing, and some other red i cant remmeber on stage 5
rancid remnant
You play with powersaw? I find the insane dps and proc power allows me to focus my build on survivability, which is not something you get to do aften. THen you dont have to worry quite as much about getting up close
dull ingot
yes
narrow gate
its a great game, but losing good runs makes me very sad on the inside
twin wraith
game of year tbh
merry karma
<@&559786374228738069>
tranquil ridgeBOT
Prosto_Karina#8121 was banned
deep salmon
ooof
crimson bane
Oof
abstract abyss
Rip
dull ingot
Don’t you love it when sacrifice gives you 3 items in 15 minutes of killing everything on stage
summer terrace
are u using sharesuite in mp?
dull ingot
Me? @summer terrace
summer terrace
ye
dull ingot
I don’t know what that is
summer terrace
nvm then lol
summer terrace
all good I just know that there's a bug with the sharesuite mod that makes sacrifice drop way less
mild grotto
Regular multiplayer barely gives you any items too 
vague comet
I've been trying out Loader's alt Shift and honestly I might prefer it
It's a lot snappier, and I don't have to babysit holding Shift 60% of the time
tired axle
alt is pretty nice
vague comet
I love becoming the koopa shell I've always wanted to be with default Shift
But alt Shift lets me feel more like an active participant in combat
fluid notch
Alt shift is ok
forest fog
wtf
I just somehow, oneshot the Alloy boss on Stage 4 because I ragdolled it into a wall
With Mercenary.
mellow mango
haha
forest fog
died to an elder lemurian on 5, was too slow on early stages :c
got desk plant from the boss blech
swift gorge
Any ps4
tired axle
night flax
has anyone made or know of a custom ror based campaign/ruleset for dnd?
rancid remnant
I know vulfoof and Tiltedhat have talked about it, but I don’t thing they went anywhere with it
night flax
cool, ive been working on one for a bit and realized i shouldve checked to see if its already been done
fluid notch
No
dull ingot
gimme moment
merry karma
haha you're funny
dull ingot
i abnn 4 ppl atm
mellow mango
haha good joke Blacklist
you can stop now...
merry karma
actually a genius idea
tranquil ridgeBOT
Xing Tian#5134 was banned
mellow mango
haha
dull ingot
bye
mellow mango
this is brilliant
dull ingot
this troll for real
visual oar
that was actually really good lol
full gale
Nice
ruby wren
merry karma
😒
full gale
:)
cyan lagoon
What are the two monsters after the magma worm on the monster log page?
deep salmon
hmmmmmm
inland kraken
What are the two monsters after the magma worm on the monster log page?
@cyan lagoon you already asked and i already answered bub
dull ingot
average cs:go player: omg i just sniped someone from 1 meter away and it was so cool! #noscope
me who just hit an an across the map shot with mul-t's rebar: you are nothing
fluid notch
Ok
sharp radish
Ok the Siren’s Call music (The Raindrop that Fell to the Sky) is so good.
inland kraken
Yes
zinc kernel
that one isn't talked about much and I really like it
winged briar
it is one of my favourites
fierce epoch
Artifact cmd be like
tired axle
shield good
merry karma
i wonder if ghor would've worked on risk 1 back then
outer swallow
who is ghor?
tired axle
one of the devs
outer swallow
I know paul morse and duncan drummond are the main 2 guys
tired axle
ghor does most of the coding afaik
outer swallow
did the gearbox studio guys help with producing ror2 a lot or were they like publishers?
tired axle
no idea honestly
merry karma
they only publish if risk 2
winged briar
how’s gd2 doing
mellow mango
😔
winged briar
oh?
merry karma
🙂
carmine tree
this was the best item i ever played in acrid
stage 5 armor-piercing and afterburner printer
carmine tree
😋 👍
upper briar
gd2 best channel
tired axle
i agree
teal drum
No
fierce epoch
Yes
winged briar
goose more like cool
upper briar
no u
winged briar
u too homie
upper briar
❤️
copper raven
winged briar
They’re grooving
vague lintel
mmmmm myes today i will never die
zinc smelt
BUT IT WAS ME DIO
fluid notch
No
lusty laurel
gl dont lose clovers
mellow mango
f
wraith phoenix
welp, i'm late to the update, I didn't update it but horray 1.0
vestal merlin
mithrix needs something like a mountain shrine, so you could combine it with swarms to make 4 mithrixs
just imagine that fight with four players
untold yarrow
@vestal merlin
wind canopy
lol chat is dead i am so funny because i mentioned that a chat has not been spoken in for a long period of time
turbid tapir
bazz why u switching to discussion 2
dire crow
I love the part of YGNABU where its just elevator music lmao
dire crow
legit you could put the minion stage part in an elevator and noone would notice
upper briar
obligatory how is gd2 on this lovely night
polar anvil
obligatory good
vague lintel
Alex trebek died so today became pretty sad
winged briar
i feel like goose and i are in very different timezones
wide mantle
Completed my first successful eclipse run on console 😎
brisk talon
What's the best artifact to casually play with and why is it metamorphosis?
brisk talon
I'm not one to ever really play games like risk, or play games like I've played risk
but god DAMN metamorphosis is super fun
leaden light
Evolution is nice, also vengeance
summer terrace
evo, vengeance, chaos, sacrifice all rly fun
also yeah metamorph also a ton of fun
it's pretty fun with the transmutation artifact from the flood warning mod which randomizes your skill loadout everystage
wide mantle
Loader op
languid pasture
Just gotta get that 130% crit chance
sonic wren
hmmst
languid pasture
And if you’re printing having those extra three for a safeguard is cool
wide mantle
I 3d printed 9 then I got more from stage 4 and 5
abstract abyss
wicked condor
I wonder how long we're going to keep this bit running for
granite trench
Reading it gives me a headache
neat heron
chrome
upper briar
i feel like goose and i are in very different timezones
@winged briar almost 12 hours apart homie
winged briar
what are you doing up at this time
noble beacon
huh i just found "sundered grove" for the first time
upper briar
gaming
noble beacon
does it have a guaranteed red somewhere like the other 2 things
winged briar
yes it does
upper briar
it does
noble beacon
oh god it has mini mushrooms.
upper briar
the worst of the 3 stage 4's
noble beacon
and theres not even loot utterly everywhere,
like seriously i cant find the teleporter or any chests help
upper briar
particles are your best friend in this desolate mushroom filled csgo bhop course lookin map
noble beacon
i found the teleporter at least
upper briar
actually scratch the bhop course
it looks like an elytra course
noble beacon
why is this the worst place ever, why are terrible enemies spawning even though the difficulty is low and i got here in good time
why the endless packs of elder lemurians and elite stone golems, game
merry karma
ror2 bhop when
upper briar
actually
i never thought about that
i tried to bhop in every game that let me jump, everyone i own, but not ror2
merry karma
even minecraft?
upper briar
yes
upper briar
oh i didnt use mods
merry karma
im good at it
noble beacon
ok what the hell ive killed over 9 elder lemurians now
is this enemy weighted to spawn more in this map
noble beacon
thank god for the preon accumulator.
so i guess dont farm in this map?
"always do level 3 quickly to have time to farm in level 4" - everyone ever
is this no longer true
upper briar
you'll see mushrooms and elite lemjrs, highly recommend not farming in ir
lemjrs jesus christ i need sleep
noble beacon
where do i farm then, sky meadows
merry karma
lem junior?
noble beacon
oh cool sky meadows is full of also terrible things.
leaden light
Sky meadows is always nice to loot
upper briar
get a newt on stage 3 and choose either abyssal or sirens call
leaden light
Only problem is elder lems and brass
noble beacon
a few less blazing elder lemurians would be nice, game.
my preon accumulator cant fire that many times.
upper briar
and uh
dont forget solus units
noble beacon
at least those are slow.
leaden light
Those are kind of a joke ngl
upper briar
they can overwhelm you if you already have elder lemurs/brazongs on you though
they're a health bag and can team up with other enemies and kill you extremely quickly
upper briar
i'm taking into account a mediocre run, not in any way a god run
having to deal with both units and elder lemurs per say is gonna be difficult
noble beacon
\dasjkhsdkfjhskafj rip god run.
seriously, did they BUFF ELDER LEMURIAN SPAWN RATES?
are over 10 meant to spawn at once at only 24 minutes
leaden light
Last mando run I played I just had 40% crit and a sticky bomb with 2 tri tips and solus weren't nearly as tanky as brass
But whatever
I just dislike green wisps and lunar wisps having so much hp
noble beacon
whats a lunar wisp
noble beacon
both of the lunar chimeras just feel like "have bleed or die"
leaden light
And a colossal healthpool as if it wasn't enough
The grounded ones are fine since they're huge
But the flying ones are crazy fast
I guess speed is war after all
wind canopy
does anyone wanna play multiplayer i want to do multiplayer but quickplay is bad
oh wait this chat hasnt been spoken in for like 20 minutes
mellow mango
correct
wide mantle
Loader eclipse 2 on console complete 😎
gritty raptor
I just killed the newt.
fluid notch
Good job
gritty raptor
I didn't know it was even possible.
fierce epoch
You can also make it into a ghost
brisk talon
Is there a guaranteed gold chest in the new stage? its not in the tree
mellow mango
there is
it spawns in one of 5 places
brisk talon
oh god damnit
dull ingot
i wish eclipse was multiplayer
fluid notch
There's a mod that lets you use eclipse modifiers in multiplayer
mellow mango
yes that mod is a good option, in the base game I think it makes a lot of sense that it is locked to singleplayer
brisk talon
to beat eclipse do I have to defeat mithrix or can I obliterate
queen pollen
Mithrix
fluid notch
Celestial portal doesn't spawn
noble beacon
oh no the enemies in void fields got tougher times
this is going to be utterly something.
lament escarp
So if you’re playing eclipse the artifact portal doesn’t work?
final shadow
yes
worn lance
my "how fun is it to have them on your team in 4 person multiplayer" survivor tier list from dozens of monsoon vanilla runs. NOTE: this is all my personal opinion and (mostly) a joke, don't let it change how you play the game (unless you are a double hack captain player)
**S: **
Acrid players just vibe out and poison things, never sweating, just hoppin around and sometimes getting newt but mostly just being cool
**A: **
Engi players only care about bungus. They have their own unique synergies and are pretty much always afk, so not as likely to obsess over items or other aspects of the game. This does not apply to mobile engi players, who are just confused and somewhere in B tier.
Rex players are like Acrid players but they have to deal with the constant anxiety of always being at 2% HP, and also not having good mobility.
**B: **
Mul-T's are schizos. Sometimes they'll run buzzsaw + scrap launcher, sometimes they'll run double rebar. It's a mystery.
Huntress's and Merc's are about the same, they're the sweatiest but that's cool :) (sometimes they'll get newt, but it depends on the player)
C:
Commando is pretty boring and not very fun to see. You know they're gonna do either a proc build or double purity, and that's it.
Loader is OP but most loader players are fresh off of "loader one-shots the world" and don't actually do anything besides hold down m1 on a wandering vagrant.
Artificers are either flying outside of TP and wasting time, or dead because they took flamethrower.
**D: **
Captains are the worst. No mobility so never getting newt, 90% hack only for themselves and are plagued by ego because their character does 1000% every m1 and gets items for free. Every time someone locks in captain w/ the alternate skin, I die a little bit on the inside.
dull ingot
Pretty accurate honestly
dull ingot
mellow mango
severe chasm
rancid remnant
Can confirm, I play artificer and spend most of my time floating above the teleporter zone while my rex friend carries me
vague lintel
abstract abyss
I can’t argue with this
But
Commandos with his alt skin should automatically get a tier
hexed socket
Huntress players are item whores
polar anvil
Huntress players are just horny
hexed socket
I’m a huntress player and yeah
polar anvil
Have you ever seen a huntress player who isn't horny? No
gentle lake
I just can not argue with this at all
upper briar
Have you ever seen a huntress player who isn't horny? No
i am a huntress player and i am not horny
polar anvil
You aren't huntress player because commando role
upper briar
for huntress nah
might be cos im gay but whatever
gentle lake
Understandable have a nice day
hexed socket
I am not horny for huntress but I am definitely horny
royal hull
Just used command sacrifice and swarm artifacts anddddddd
tepid wolf
Why 69 crit glasses unless you just did it for memes?
royal hull
Exactly why I did it now my highest stack is 69
tepid wolf
Although command sacrifice swarms turns the game into a joke so it doesn't matter anyway
pearl hedge
Not if you turn the other 13 artifacts on
tepid wolf
MAAO is mostly about luck with kin
You basically wait for a good kin and farm items until you get a red and get daggers
foggy pilot
maao?
patent pumice
monsoon all artifacts
quartz saffron
ye, you can just wait for a blazing enemy to appear
the fire trail will dmg others and then they'll just start attacking each other
then they spawn the spite bombs which dmg more monsters and you can get nice chain reactions
dull ingot
Permanent uptime on royal capacitor looks so fun
full gale
It is
neon valve
Are there gonna be log descriptions for each character/monster or am I just missing something when it says scrapping memory error
tired axle
they will be added in future updates
neon valve
Ok
vague comet
Everyone keeps saying Mercenary is one of the easiest characters, but I keep dying as him in the early game, even if I get lucky with really good items for him
It's to the point where I now wanna ask if someone could watch me play as him to tell me what I'm doing wrong
Because I've looked at guides and stuff
And I play most other characters totally fine
swift badge
Those are probably outdated @vague comet . Merc isn't just face-mash your keyboard to win anymore.
I'd say he's one of the trickier ones now, as he's got a bit of a different gameplan.
vague comet
Are there any common pitfalls I might be falling into?
mild grotto
Getting hit, probably
fluid notch
Dying
mild grotto
Ok that sounds dumb but I sincerely mean that, Merc isn't anywhere near as tanky as he used to be
You used to be able take a bunch of hits but now you're not as tanky as Loader and Acrid anymore
leaden light
If you are taking damage as merc you're doing something wrong anyway
mild grotto
Also, make sure you're taking full advantage of Expose, you can practically have zero cooldowns in groups if you're using it right
Especially if you're using Slicing Winds
mild grotto
Oh yeah you can basically extend his M1
If you use Blinding Assault, Whirlwind or I think even Eviscerate right after the third swing, it extends the hitbox duration
Also, you can cancel your shift with your M2 for more DPS (but less safety)
worn lance
dashed onto the roof of the lunar place
mellow mango
merc is certainly not one of the easiest characters, he is probably the hardest to learn so don't feel bad about struggling with him @vague comet
I would recommend reading this guide if you haven't already
https://www.reddit.com/r/riskofrain/comments/ihi9zo/guide_to_post10_mercenary/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Additionally, a good way to learn how merc works is through watching cabbage's ethereal vids, even if you have no interest in trials, and looking through the comments where cabbage often explains his tricks
Sadly cabbage uses evis for obvious reasons, so it is hard to find skillful SW gameplay online to study
hehe yeah, you can get into the roof with merc and huntress, maybe more
worn lance
sheesh merc players are getting sweaty with their combos
bro just hit r and try to get exposed off
mellow mango
I mean
thats how you play merc
its not like you need all the fancy merc tech
but it does help, so why not use it?
worn lance
bruh honestly nah just R and then m1 and m2 for exposed and then use shift to get out of sticky situations
i recommend rising thunder for vertical mobility
mellow mango
rising thunder
worn lance
esp. if youre going SW
mellow mango
don't
worn lance
don't what
mellow mango
use rising thunder
worn lance
its vertical mobility tho
mellow mango
I need to leave
I will argue this later
worn lance
good for getting to places
mellow mango
or someone else can explain this to you
worn lance
bruh its literally vertical mobility just use it to go places
fluid notch
Trimping provides good vertical mobility
swift badge
^^
Trimp with Whirlwind is infinitely better than a RT, you have more flexibility with Whirlwind too
mild grotto
That assumes you have a slope to fly off of
full gale
Ryuko pfp nice
mellow mango
@worn lance whirlwind offers better horizontal mobility, better vertical mobility, it allows you to extend the range of you m1 slash, and it is less disrupting when comboing on bosses etc.
I would say that whirlwind is almost always the better choice
thats not to say you can't have fun or succeed using rising thunder though
oh, and whirlwind lets you clip oob in some places without wasting a dash
winged briar
rising thunder is fun but feels a little jank at times in comparison to whirlwind
mild grotto
better vertical mobility
How
mellow mango
mellow mango
there are slopes like
everywhere
mild grotto
It's just situationally better, really
quartz saffron
trimping is the reason i like whirlwind better
mellow mango
and you dont need insane vertical mobility very often, just to get newts mostly
worn lance
ok there is even more air everywhere and its reliable when you can just always go up
mellow mango
most map exploration is horizontal on the ground
which whirlwind also speeds up
worn lance
ground mobility is easy, just use shift and hit minions
mellow mango
ah yes, the 8 sec cd
it certainly helps but its not like you can be permanently dashing
esp if few monsters are nearby
mellow mango
you know that you...
dont have to jump, right?
mild grotto
Idk still seems like a personal choice to me
worn lance
yea i mean i didnt say it wasnt
they seem about the same to me, i just recommend RT because simplicity and reliability
mellow mango
recommending something because of simplicity is not a good reason to recommend it
worn lance
it is actually a perfectly good reason to recommend it what
mild grotto
Eviscerate and Suppressive Fire exist
mellow mango
well maybe to a new player yeah
mild grotto
And Thunder Gauntlet
mellow mango
but if we are talking about which is better
complexity has nothing to do with it
mild grotto
True
mellow mango
if it was about optimizing dps then better might be thunder
it is about overall usefulness
mild grotto
Well ideally one shouldn't be better than the other and I haven't seen much to make me think one of Merc's M2s is always absolutely better than the other
worn lance
yea and i think things are more useful when they're simpler
mellow mango
I mean
whirlwind is almost always better
but rising thunder is not too far behind
worn lance
i recommend RT
mild grotto
You wanna talk about real mobility loss?
Fucking
Slicing Winds
worn lance
slicing winds is objectively worse than eviserate
mellow mango
yeah
but trimping makes up for a lot of that
but SW is worth it for the damage imo
mild grotto
slicing winds is objectively worse than eviserate
What
I'm pretty sure the direct opposite is true actually
worn lance
have you ever built attack speed in your life
mellow mango
do you uh
do actually play merc?
mild grotto
You ever procced Expose in your life?
mild grotto
Eviscerate is just safer, really
mellow mango
at this point I honestly can't tell if you are trolling
worn lance
90% of the reason anyone might think it's better is because it's locked behind an achievement
the other 10% is expose
mellow mango
what
mild grotto
...the Expose is why it's kinda better, yeah
mellow mango
ok
I refuse to believe any person would actually think this
mild grotto
Literally no one thought it was good pre-1.0
No way in hell the stupid achievement makes anyone think it impacts its viability
worn lance
not my fault your opinions are wrong
zinc kernel
not my fault your opinions are wrong
@worn lance whjat
slicing winds is just objectively more dps
worn lance
yes
zinc kernel
evis is for living longer
worn lance
and also doing more damage
mild grotto
zinc kernel
slicing winds is just objectively more dps
zinc kernel
it resets expose and hits multiple targets
mild grotto
The guy in this vid used 10 Syringes, yes
zinc kernel
^
sw is still better with attack speed
it allows merc to use his skills more often with attack speed
worn lance
yes 10 enemies standing in a tight knit group where you can spam R
mellow mango
(it only hits 3)
worn lance
self-refreshing
mild grotto
Aka every TP event
zinc kernel
imagine risk of rain 2 with no enemies
worn lance
i am convinced we are playing different games
mellow mango
wait
are you on console
lament escarp
Eviscerate has invincibility frames so I choose that any day
mellow mango
nvm then
I think you are not mentally stable
zinc kernel
sw is just objectively more dps, and evis is better for survivability
worn lance
im just built different
zinc kernel
it really depends on what you want more
worn lance
and also no, evis always ends up w/ more dps
zinc kernel
I prefer not to play mercenary
mellow mango
yeah I mean evis is still decent
but with perfect play SW is better
worn lance
disagree
mellow mango
and also no, evis always ends up w/ more dps
excuse me what
worn lance
you heard me
zinc kernel
and also no, evis always ends up w/ more dps
this is false
mellow mango
perhaps
when you are arguing about things
you should actually know
what you are arguing about
mild grotto
That's just wrong
worn lance
what i am saying is the truth
zinc kernel
oh so you're trollin
mellow mango
😔
merry karma
no it's just an objective opinion
worn lance
im literally not trolling
zinc kernel
Iiterally
mellow mango
you see
actually phase round is way more dps then phase blast
because
.
worn lance
evis deals 770% with 7.0 total proc without attack speed and that only increases
SW deals 800% with 8.0 total proc and never increases
SW is better if you literally have 0 attack speed or enemies easily grouped up to refresh expose on
zinc kernel
SW also gives exposed to what could potentially be multiple enemies
mellow mango
SW gives you 3 exposed debuffs and does not interrupt other skills|
as well as being AoE
zinc kernel
meanwhile evis only targets 1 enemy at a time
mild grotto
Expose is also bonus damage
limpid briar
Slicing Wind deals 800% damage minimum but has the opportunity to deal 2,400% damage with no lock to other skills.
zinc kernel
and you also cannot use other attacks with eviserate
mellow mango
oooh
Crescendo is here
zinc kernel
the cast of sw is affected by attack speed
worn lance
evis will end up with higher proc chance and higher damage%
mellow mango
question
are you actually
reading any of this
merry karma
who is crescendo
worn lance
yea but i know im right so i will continue to argue
mellow mango
everyone always asks who is crescendo
but they never ask
how is crescendo
zinc kernel
yea but i know im right so i will continue to argue
why are we still here
merry karma
just to argue
mellow mango
just to suffer
worn lance
most of what you said is theory and a literal test where the dude just labbed in enemies in the perfect setup for SW
leaden light
Eviscer-🤮
zinc kernel
shows where exactly?
worn lance
SW is funnier imo
leaden light
Lmao what
mild grotto
10 Syringes = SW bias
zinc kernel
you just said words
mellow mango
ok but seriously
have you ever used SW or whirlwind?
leaden light
It just interrupts your flow to give you iframes
Only advantage it has is scaling with attack speed
Wich barely does shit for merc anyway
mild grotto
Attack speed bad on Merc
What
leaden light
I do just fine with no atk speed items bro
mild grotto
It's more essential than ever what with the Laser Sword Expose
leaden light
I also have winds to expose though
mellow mango
attack speed is good on merc up to a point imo
too much and combos get really hard to pull off
leaden light
sw community
worn lance
yea
leaden light
Imagine
worn lance
anyone who takes slicing winds and thinks its unironically better than evis
leaden light
I'm part of the flamethrower community
worn lance
i dont like evis cuz it's more cringe than sw
other than that, it's objectively better
leaden light
sure
mellow mango
reminder that this is how thighs plays merc
merry karma
so your argument is that you're right
worn lance
yea
mellow mango
pretty good argument tbh
zinc kernel
🧠
worn lance
thanks
mellow mango
I can see it
mellow mango
🤔
merry karma
mellow mango
you are uh...
definitely trolling
zinc kernel
no fam you're defo trolling
leaden light
Actually trolling though
zinc kernel
anyone with more than 500 hours in this game sees sw as just objectively more dps
merry karma
goodness 😳
mellow mango
what
mild grotto
Ok that's hilarious
mellow mango
anyway this was fun but I honestly dont think you are being sincere
so kinda boring
leaden light
Frag grenade community rise up
mellow mango
frag op
zinc kernel
im still standing by my point as well
loader is slow
mellow mango
what
that you are right and we are all wrong?
worn lance
yea if all of you think sw is better than evis
mellow mango
I will stand by my point that phase round is objectively more dps
worn lance
sure do that
merry karma
your point is that you're right 😳
worn lance
right about what tho?
zinc kernel
everyone else is wrong other than you, I see
mellow mango
nothing
zinc kernel
wow not even ryuko is this hard headed
worn lance
true, probably
merry karma
lose your way ryuko
worn lance
technically since i havent changed my mind i have maintained my way
mild grotto
Arguments for Slicing Winds:
-DPS test video that shows even with high attack speed Slicing Winds outdamages Eviscerate
Arguments for Eviscerate:
-I'm right and you're not
I think we all know what's better here
mellow mango
rip gd2
we were going quite a while there with no incident
zinc kernel
ok I was like gd2 no more but then I look in whatever the hell gd1 is rn
so yeah enforcer mod op pls nerf
merry karma
arguments for evis: iframes but they're not really useful since with sw you have other skills more frequently to dodge with
worn lance
arguments for slicing winds:
- DPS test video that shows slicing winds in an optimal situation that maximizes slicing winds dps but would never actually occur in a game
arguments for eviserate: - literally everything else
mellow mango
worn lance
i think we all know who's better here
leaden light
"Never occur" alright
mild grotto
You have never seen 10 foes at once?
leaden light
Give me your ryuko pfp
zinc kernel
yeah I play on drizzle where I only fight 1 enemy at a time
worn lance
you have never seen 10 stone titans standing within melee range of each other?
mild grotto
Doesn't have to be Stone Titans.
zinc kernel
the stone titans were an example smh
mellow mango
ok thighs
perhaps state your argument for why evis is better in full
worn lance
empirically it performs better; but as to why is (hypothesis here) due to utility and more damage and to a lesser extent the i-frames
hypothesis as in there are most likely other reasons why it's better but im just pinning down the obvious few
leaden light
It doesn't deal more damage though
zinc kernel
arguments for slicing winds:
- Better DPS through hitting multiple enemies applying exposed so you can use your other skills(the projectile scaling with attack speed does not matter, it's casting rate is affected by attack speed, and when it refreshes the rest of your kit faster you can use attack speed to use those moves faster, and with a multitude of enemies spawning in you'll likely lose 2-3 seconds of cooldown per cast)
-range
-evis can only target 1 enemy at a time
arguments for eviserate: - iframes, it scales with attack speed
leaden light
It's literally just iframes, that's the whole skill
worn lance
you're using it wrong then :/
mellow mango
ah yes, evis
the most difficult skill to use
zinc kernel
I don't know a less complex skill than evis tbh
worn lance
well if you're only using it for iframes
zinc kernel
like even double tap has sprint tech
leaden light
No I'm not it has 1 use
worn lance
then yes you are using it wrong
mellow mango
now SW on the other hand
that one is basically braindead
zinc kernel
no commando double tap
worn lance
im not saying you all are using it wrong, i was responding to huntr who apparently only uses it for defense
zinc kernel
you can sprint inbetween shots 🙃
merry karma
i know i use it all the time 😳
mellow mango
mando roll can trimp
zinc kernel
mando roll can trimp yes
arguments for slicing winds:
- Better DPS through hitting multiple enemies applying exposed so you can use your other skills(the projectile scaling with attack speed does not matter, it's casting rate is affected by attack speed, and when it refreshes the rest of your kit faster you can use attack speed to use those moves faster, and with a multitude of enemies spawning in you'll likely lose 2-3 seconds of cooldown per cast)
-range
-evis can only target 1 enemy at a time
arguments for eviserate:- iframes, it scales with attack speed
@worn lance any thoughts? Changes I should make?
mild grotto
The mobility
zinc kernel
I guess
worn lance
like honest thoughts or just memes
mellow mango
yeah, evis is an extra dash
zinc kernel
arguments for slicing winds:
- Better DPS through hitting multiple enemies applying exposed so you can use your other skills(the projectile scaling with attack speed does not matter, it's casting rate is affected by attack speed, and when it refreshes the rest of your kit faster you can use attack speed to use those moves faster, and with a multitude of enemies spawning in you'll likely lose 2-3 seconds of cooldown per cast)
-range
-evis can only target 1 enemy at a time
arguments for eviserate:- iframes, it scales with attack speed
-mobility
oops didn't mean to quote
mellow mango
also evis makes clipping oob more consistent because you get more tries in a limited amount of time
like void for example
zinc kernel
I think we all know phase round is the best skill actually
mild grotto
Power Tazer erasure
zinc kernel
it doesn't even waste your band procs like stupid trash skills such as charged guantlet
mellow mango
charged gauntlet
worst utility tbh
leaden light
Bro ion surge literally makes you unkillable
mellow mango
now rex default shift
it needs a nerf
zinc kernel
ok gamers what's the best debate
🪚 Powersaw is bad
nerf gesture
crowdfunder bad
slicing winds vs evis
loader is slow
Ion vs flamethrower
one shot protection
zinc kernel
people who say you take guaranteed damage in melee range
merry karma
hi Flow
mellow mango
oh, do we have a story to tell you
zinc kernel
"Powersaw is bad it makes you take damage"
leaden light
I guess it sounds like something people would say
mild grotto
It's bad because everyone knows double Scrap is the best loadout
merry karma
"rex is bad because it makes you take damage"
worn lance
rex IS bad tho
mild grotto
Can't even joke about this shit
worn lance
centrist spotted
merry karma
I like phase round but the sound isn't as satisfying
where and when
I'll knock you out with my $10 nerd gun
😎
full gale
Man fuck I must be the luckiest ror2 player alive
I got yet another lighting aspect to drop on like stage 4 before I even got an equipment (was using command + sacrifice for a chrysalis build)
merry karma
ok hear me out, I'm the luckiest