#gd2-nullified
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that excites me considering I've only got about 30
This is the first loop
i know
so essentially, you got stupid lucky ig
I meant that they can only spawn after the first loop on most stages
I guess abyssal is an exception
you learn somethin new every day i guess
look up the directors it shows you where what can spawn when
i dont know if it would be worth it to farm for two legendary chests though
it is
Yeah
that alone could be game changing
legendary chests could show up on any stage technically. All the spawns in this game are weight based
I'll do it just to see what I get
Maybe not stage 1 or 2 but pretty early on, it's technically possible
Watch I get 2 Interstellar Desk Plants or smthn lol
@spare valve nope it hardcoded to never do that pre loop one on most stages
i guess u right
Rare chest have the same rarity as the logbook beacons
and they can spawn
back to the meme channel for me
so goodbye i guess
Well I'm not dead
So I get my chests now
Also before opening either I got rejuv rack from a big chest so good start
2 Soulbound Catalysts
I have the lightning Equipment i dont remember the name
This is good

I like Roguelikes because of this game and Hades, i may have to redownload enter the gungeon
try wizard of legend too
Is the Binding of Issac worth a play?

F
damn i just wanted the damn challenge
i wasted all my luck
idk why im looping just to get the alternative shift
anyways should i print everything or nah
No
my mind is telling me no
but my body
MY BODY
IS TELLING ME YEAAAH
How well can you push enemies without REX's util?
i dunno i just use it as a jump
wait, damn i forgot i got strides
The r might be able to do it, not sure
Me and @safe storm just kill the bizzar lizard in 2 HITS
And we didn’t get kicked out of the shop either
I can't beat Mythrx I had a one shot loader build the first time I did it and I didn't know how any of the phases worked so when he used my 3 Genesis loops against me I was in pain
I've only gotten to his 3rd phase
syringes
We don’t need no /
Primary weapon...
I think 40 is enough wouldn’t you?
Anyway, love it
that's what she said
NO
N O
Yes
that's what she said
@sturdy tapir LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
local scientist becomes god
i have made a glorious mistake
I know they retuned the last phase of Mithrix to make it a little easier, but it still feels like I die to it way too often. It's generally not too hard, but if you have certain items in your build, he goes from tricky to stupid. I just got one shot by my own Kjaro's Band.
Honestly, the whole "take your items and use them against you" thing should have been reserved for a secret boss. Its difficulty is inconsistent and occasionally incredibly mean, which is fine for a secret boss, but is pretty rough for the final boss.
did they nerf the good items? I have been playing for over a year and just recently started eclipse on all characters but I get a ridiculous amount of useless items that don't pair.
I just got 3 greens on first stage and they were all ghors tome. the match before this one, I got 3 reds and they were all double healing, it feels rigged
a lot of the items I get don't stack either, I'll get pred instincts but no crit glasses, I'll get backup equipment but I'll get something like the radar
it's been like this for the passed 2 weeks now and only in Eclipse
yeah you are just getting unlucky, the item drops system is certainly not 'rigged'
I am almost certain they are at this point
didnt get what i wanted in 2 rounds
must be rigged somehow
is there a way to read the drop rate?
lol
i guess it is in the code somewhere but it is probably equal for all items of the same rarity
shut up julian, I wouldnt be here if I didnt notice a long extended pattern for the last 2 weeks
whoa there no need to be so rude
w h a t
actually i just got 0 lunar pods on commencement lunar island hes right this shit is rigged
haha
the drop rates are all the exact same for items of the same quality
there are drop rates for item rarity but they're just by rarity, not by item
because it's ridiculous to have 10 of ghors tomes and 1 ukelele
And sometimes that happens. That's rng.
dont sleep on the tome
Moners
but it is odd that I already have picked up almost 1000 fresh meats and still have less than 2000 monster teeth with almost 900 hours in difference
RNG must love fresh meat
RNG just does that. You might get 8 legendaries in a row or you might get only commons for a whole 2 hour long run
tfw getting multiple rejuvination racks on engie with ungodly amounts fungus and multiple aegises (aegi?) is ungodly in strength and the main reason for the power is the rejuv racks
is getting 5 wakes of vultures good
yes
;w;
beeg titan
Maybe a tad too ambitious with the mountain shrines
rule nr 1 in risk of rain pop all Moutain shrines
@plain viper
he is a true ror2 player
Oh in that case don't spend 30 mins before starting a stage 4 teleporter fight 
well i think he is just too greedy to pick all chests
and maybe he doesnt know about the 5min rule
or 4 30 rule better
Looker like they were out in the open against a golem too
well
Only 1 mag so a tad difficult to swing to safety from the laser
he's pretty new to the game iirc
oh
I didn't mean anything negative with it, just pointing out some things i noticed that they might improve on if they read this
rainstorm playes dont improve they are never tested agains the real odds
they expire often because they think they can get away with fatal mistakes
me and some randos about to take on mithrix*:)*
we all died though
last guy is running
Ironic, for he could heal others, yet not himself.
my game crashed :(
Damn
Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Survivor Engie the Wise? It’s not a tale the Lemurians would tell you.
ooo,i would like to hear it
Survivor Engie was an Eclipse Lord, so powerful and so wise he could use Bungus to influence turrets to create healing... He had such a knowledge of the bungus side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The lunar side of items is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so transcended... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his green health, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he didn't find a cleansing pool. It's ironic he could heal others, but not himself
lmao
sundered grove arriving to pc in 4-5 days?
not 100% confirmed, but hopefully
idk why but the name "sundered grove" just sounds pretty cool
god looking at the lfg as i joined just seems intimidating af
anyone speaks spanish?
shiroe it's not that bad. Those giant numbers are codes to join the lobby. Basically all you have to look for is difficulty and region :)
"vc 3" for example, means voice chat 3
I’ve gotten 3 reds from chance shrines and common chests and they’ve all been frost relics
that is both incredibly lucky but also unlucky at the same time
Why Recycler is top tier
because it gives you more control over your items
That was a statement, not a question

Ok guys
ok
hopefully they dont follow us
True
u play rors on pc right
untrue
fuck

Gd2 is generally better than gd1
yes
I didn't hate lesser wisps until I started playing captain jesus christ
Same
Bro I know how that feels
I got a meat hook on my second chest and still died on the first stage
Eh, they're ... ok... ish
How does Armour Piercing work? Does it apply to all enemies in the boss category (all magma worms, vagrants, etc) or to all enemies with a boss health bar (only teleporter bosses <including swarms> and secret bosses)?
Okay, thanks. I've wondered that for a long time. And it applies to swarms?
Cool. Thanks.
you killed captains umbra i see
Fun Fact they dont apply to you drones
Since it captains passive
And yes they stack btw
@dull ingot
how can you unlock captain drone? is it only for captain?
umbra?
do you play with the
on
because the doppelgängers kill drop a item you are holding and they are called "Umbra of "Survivor""
@brisk gale
ooooh
it how you get the logbook
so far the story is, since I got some fancy shit, right before phase 4 start (or I shall say right before he start to steal my item) I was able to one shot Mithrix😇 then that motherfker keep sucking mine with a dead body & the countdown start as well🤬 luckily I choose mercenary for this run, if I go commando 100% unable to escape
This is probably the easiest way to lose sanity.
Listening to 6 hour album about dementia while never leaving stage 1.
Man, I'm only 3 hours in.
I'm so stressed by all of this that it's difficult to breathe.
Every breath feels... Wrong?
My brain is melting.
I can't do this anymore.
I had to stop listening to it.
I was shutting down mentally.
The difference between #gd1-nullified and #gd2-nullified is night and day
just got the artifact of spite
Funballs
never notice that it looks like a Healing fruit


Is Rex just a robot plant, or a robot plant bug?
Robot plant
Someone knows if they mentioned adding skins that are not recolor only? I guess a mod can do that maybe did not look up (But still unlockable non mod non recolor skin would be nice)
idk if they did but there are some skin mods
Take a look at Commando, Engineer, Merc and even REX, their alt skins come with some model changes.
REX has the least obvious change in its model compared to the other three
The difference between #gd1-nullified and #gd2-nullified is night and day
and also ramen likes this channel so its automatically better
yes
HOW
also known as the only ghost that cant attack
speaking of luck, my friend has only used a lunar pool twice and has only gotten irradiant pearls both times
so he doesn't even have the journal entry for the normal one lmao
oh my god
yeah you're telling me
or at least the two times he's used it when we were playing together
Is anyone else's game suddenly closing with no error log or anything?
mine was last night
but i was trying to mess with monster teeth sooo
mess with as in remove % health scaling, change the % health fraction to always be 0, make the flat health scale
something blew up i guess
im gonna have to look into it again though
im almost certain the game only crashed if i successfully changed monster tooth healing
can you make cursed risk 2 mod
what
make every projectile randomized with random angle, origin, damage, speed, recoil and stuff
no

i tried doing that for mando and got that my hook argument wasnt on the left side even though it was and the next day...
i should probably do that instead of the ankh shield ngl
yes
cause i have too many ideas for red items and not enough everything else
ankh shield wouldve been cool as hell but i need more green item ideas and stuff
i can always do frozen turtle shell as a green item too ngl
idk why i want to do frozen turtle shell in particular but i feel like it would be fairly fitting
sounds like its time to make a terraria cross over mod
wait actually a lot of accessories would fit pretty well now that I think about it
yea
im mostly focusing on defensive items but zapinator is prime real estate
oh also i want 1-2 cdr items
so maybe mana flower? although i feel like thatd be a green
i definitely want to bring that one idea from ages ago in the feedback channel which gave a minor amount of cdr to primary and secondary skills
but idk if mana flower is very fitting for it haha
i guess it could just be Nature's Gift
listen just add rocket boots and everything will work out 👌
oh yeah nature's gift would fit slight cdr very well
esp if you are going to be converting mana to cd
ye, so mana items would just affect cd instead, right?
yeah
because mana system sounds like something you would add to a mod called rogue wisp if your name was Rein
gross
last prism drone 😳
||rogue wisp cring||
eh i think the charge system is not quite the same
||why is rogue wisp cring||
||they arent||
heres the idea i was talking about btw #ror2-feedback-and-ideas message
seems like the effect is decent but would not feel good to get because it would be unnoticable
nature's gift in a nutshell
so I would want something more interesting to solve that problem
yeah I guess it does fit nature's gift lol
||why is rogue wisp cring||
i just dont really enjoy it that much, feels janky and without much response


increasing the cdr amount to 6% to match nature's gift and then increasing the alien head CDR to 30% or 33% sounds like a good plan
alien head isnt a very exciting item to me anyways
Anyone else have trouble with the overcharged elder lumerians on loop 1 of monsoon? Always blast my butt hella quick
did they fix the visions of heredisy and captions shift ability glitch?
<@&559786374228738069> spam
!ban @rare arrow
first
stfu

guys other then cap who should i used for my next run
acrid is a new one ive never used sure thank you
i gotta poop


perhaps doing a 8 minute stage 5 run was a mistake
loader never stops amazing me tho
That Huntress emoji is missing the ring.
the what
the ring
i just dont really enjoy it that much, feels janky and without much response
sounds like a you problem
prob the longest run i got
If you’re aiming ti complete more stages, going faster could definetly help you out
Trying out the captain and I’m a bit confused on what items he should get I typically play engineer and acrid
Attack speed, bleed, crit and bands are the things that'll impact Cap's gameplay quite a bit
Attack speed - affects not just shooting/charge speed, but also microbots, shotgun main fire - great for bleed stacks, crit - self explanatory, bands - his Shift ability does a ton of damage and will proc bands that will do even more damage
Crowd control stuff like Ukulele also works really well
Trying out the captain and I’m a bit confused on what items he should get I typically play engineer and acrid
Though it is hard to come by as it’s a legendary, Hardlight Afterburner is one of the best things you could give Captain as it reduces his Utility cooldown by about 4 seconds with one Afterburner and gives him 2 additional charges of the Utility. Due to how powerful his Utility is, I’d 100% recommend picking it up if you see it.
Isnt afterburner good on basically anyone
I think that it was my first time with Afterburner.
I just choose to get red items stage 1 every game 😏
Basically, telling someone "hey this red item is really good on x character" is like, super unhelpful
@north sequoia imagine telling them mask is good on everyone



Is equipment drone casing Back up item more often? (one that spawns drones) or in general all items
it has 80% less cd, i believe
Yes
neat with captain definitely
imagine telling them mask is good on everyone
what are you trying to say about mask
oops didn't mean to @ that person lol
They're very clearly saying it's good on everyone, what else?
no they were saying it's not good and I was faking outrage because I like the item
Ha ha no one would ever say that 
Did you know that the worm bosses are actually controlled by an invisible, grounded entities that walks around while the worm follows and flies around it? This is why worms that are grappled by REX’s Tangling Growth travel in circles instead of stopping in their tracks. If the invisible entity that controls the worm was not grounded, the worms would be able to fly around the map.
I figured this out while playing as an Overloading Worm
I am aware of that
Oh that's why the camera's weird with them
And that also explains why they just fly on Sky Meadows
neat
So when you play as a worm you basically take them out for a walk
Yep
wholesome
Also, their m1 makes the worm fly directly at whatever the camera is pointing at
Still not entirely sure what the utility skill does though, but I imagine it is what the worm uses to quickly get to the player or the gunner turret across the map
Yeah it's the same blink as the overlord imp's
here's a full list with worm's skills
catch me rollin up with my S Q U A D
Drones
the boss fight had so many missles
I'm so bad at ROR1 that I didn't know items could show up on the other side of the skills/health
its a lot more unforgiving imo
picked ROR1 back up after too many frame drops in 2
absolute nightmare game, it's the DARK SOULS of rouge likes
I need to get the first game ror1.....
Ror1 was what got me into ror2, because theyre pakaged together in the physicap release
if i use gin tonic twice
do they stack?
(with the equipment charge thing)
no
Just beat the game. What a final boss/ending. Well freaking done Hopoo
Obligatory how's gd2 on this lovely early morning
its fun
I suck at the game though
@fluid notch
same
pog
I am going to describe each character, with a varying level of verboseness
MUL-T: Hit and run
Captain: Funni shotgun arm
Commando:I swear he is viable
REX: Wait, why do I hear Plantera's theme
Artificer:Mage but really fucking hard to aim please help
Acrid:Void fields are fun i guess
Merc: That motherfucker better not take the fungus again
Engie: Please dear god merc stop taking the god damned fungus and turing it into syringes
Loader:God slayer
Huntress: Aiming? Look, my mouse sensitivity is so high that it is practically in orbit.
I smell terraria
yes i am salty about the merc on my last run takimg every fucking item dropped including fungus
wetterland fire aspect II when
I am very salty, that merc fucking robbed me out of ~15 items , many of them were fungus or other useful engie items. And ofc the merc get's pissed when we both die.
Two kinds of player I dislike, quits early game, and item thieves
mornin gd2
good afternoon
yes
alsways seems to be melee and fast chars who item theive
or rex for some reason
and captain but thats fair
you know simpleflips and gbj, we have gaj (gay acrid jail) which would be the void
or if youre me you play the slowest character in the game and then get accused of hoarding items when playing with friends
arti throwing hands sounds funny
Ghor would you have worked on risk of rain 1 back then?
Melee artificer 😳
@north sequoia download artificer extended
I'm not asking anymore
ok, quick question for our favourite gd2
who do you think has the most skills in ror2 (including both monsters and survivors; identical skills count as long as they're in different slots)?
for example, huntress technically has 5 skills with ballista, because her m1 changes when you activate R
Mithrix has 6, an alt M1 while sprinting and an alt R on phase 3
cap has 6 too
cap has more than 6
4 is all usual skills
2 for beacons which replace m1 and m2
3 🚫 signs for depleted m1 and m2 beacons and also R
and 2 lost connections for shift and R
wait all those count too?
I dunno if it counts as a skill if you cant use it
but in that case cap probably has the most yeah
eh, fair enough
so it's either mithrix and cap or only cap
epic moment when artificer has 17 skills 😏

epic moment when duck duck grey duck misunderstands the question
Scavenger
It has three moves and the third one allows it to find different ways to kill you
It sucks there too Pog
||im 20 darkness off of ending one of the side missions :/||
i havent really tried zeus boons with adamant rail
in fact i dont think ive had many zeus boons in a while
i think i usually ignore them because i feel like theyre mostly crowd control focused and crowd control doesnt feel super helpful vs the final few bosses
i just dont pick up zeus shit zeus sux
yeah
zeus and dionysus huff farts
basically
dionysus i only get if i want his cast to cheese theseus
because i hate theseus's shield so much
love theseus 😄
or basically any shield
i think in my best run i did get a couple zeus boons tho
i got lucky and i had like a rare zeus cast and the one boon that makes enemies shocked which makes them damage themselves on their next attack
so i used it as much as i could against the final boss
bc haha self damage go brrrrrr
kinda shit actually idr how useful it is
you know kind of how boons right? like if you get 1 boon from a god, next time you see them you'll have a chance of getting something more unique or whatever
yea
it is good shit
thats actually how i got the demeter build
cause i knew if i picked up the primary attack boon i could expect to see the explosion boon later
or not expect but i would have good odds at seeing it to a point where it was worth a shot
yes yes
anyways you got the right meme, start with Hypnos sack, take the thing that gives you 15% interest or whatever when you head to the next stage, snowball your cash a ton and do every infernal trove (aside from the heal ones if you don't need them)
and then i always saved the skelly ksake for 4th just in case, eventually Theseus & Asterius become consistent
you've gifted nectar to gods, right?
uhhhh
the little bottles yeah?
ive done it for a few
i just dont run into a lot of them
kind of a shame cause i want to gift more
really important to just get everyones keepsake first, i think
gifting to the olympian gods is really good, all of their boons are essentially the same but personalized (aside from hermes), but you can use those for Asphodel, and Elysium once you feel more comfortable with those
it seems more than decent at max level, ye
for asphodel at least, since by elysium i usually am decked out with enough boons to do better than what the boon can offer
but i also dont have it fully leveled haha
it just depends on the boons and upgrades i have mostly
god damn it duck beat the game already
you already know what the pact of punishment is right
yeah cause i played in EA when the final boss didnt exist
it was just the hydra at the time LOL
yeah i was all over the game then
i dont remember honestly i dont think i ever touched the pact
i only beat the hydra once or twice back then
the one that ||significantly alters boss fights||
its a very minor thing its not like a story spoiler or anything
ive heard about it
dont remember if it was in the game like 2 years ago tho
also it sounds miserable LOL
genuinely it kicks ass
once you get to the heat level where you can turn them on, the boss fights all become consistent and kind of boring
we're discussing the second good game here
this dude hasn't beaten the game yet, can you believe that
what a #noob
it totally is for the first time, but they go all out with it
im currently up to heat 7, meaning that i can fight up to Theseus & Asterius altered, and it's one of my favorite bosses even unaltered because it just kicks ass, i love Theseus' personality and i love Asterius' too
but the Theseus & Asterius alteration is actually fucking massive and amplifies the fight a ton
like it not only makes the fight more difficult, it also vibes w/ their personalities a bit too, more thesus than asterius but still
i love that fight. that fight kicks ass. love those dudes
rad 😳
is it me or does the goat hoof model clip through captain's model
It does
unplayable
this but unironically
Then again, captains legs clip thru his coat. Watch gonna do.
how is gd2 doing on this lovely night
suffering
about as dead as Rex with transcendence
lol
doing all kinds of crazy math
really want to be modding rn but i have all kinds of other work to do 😔 sad
What kind of math?
calculus
lol
well i just discovered all the work ive done for the last month is invalid because i wrote down notes in totally incomprehensible ungradable format
so i gotta redo a month's worth of work 😦
what
school moment
yeah... love online learning
Rip
wait wdym
“notes”
“ungradable”
like homework
but i didnt number my answers or work shown and didnt organize it
cause i didnt know i had to
So happy re-do time
I’d just give up and go play some ror
lol
remember to take breaks
i would if i actually enjoyed playing ror
which is why i wanna be modding rn
thinking about itemz....
- Frozen Turtle Shell, green item: gives armor when low on combined max health
- cobalt shield, green item: passively gain a small armor buff. while not moving, become immune to knockback and gain a large armor buff```
these babies
Armor bungus lets go
i like that nature’s gift affects primary
but... reducing max health is a simple solution
terraria references
not by a large amount
“reference”
right?
but enough to help make bungus and armor more meaningful
Arti buff from the nature as well
Cobalt Shield in terraria is so nice
yea i really want to have a bunch of different items for survivability
knockback in that game is so annoying
fr
survivability is a slept on category
rose buckler is kinda slept on but also it only works on like 3 characters
let’s not forget that fresh meat is literally useless
wait whats that 1 meme where its like
you can do this with 1 weird trick, the government hates it!
yea
Lunar coin printer
cobalt shield is like antibuckler
yeah if rose gave passive armor it would be nice
the cooler buckler
I think I remember a mod where it gives base 30 armor(+30 per stack) +40 while sprinting and it was kinda busted
i’m hella interested in nature’s gift, how much do you think that cdr would be duck?
2 rose gave 140 armor while sprinting lmao
oooo sick
i dont want NG to overshadow alien head
cdr is kinda underpowered imo
alien head buff would be nice, it’s kind of underwhelming in it’s vanilla state anyway
its a very mundane stat in a sense
but that's probably because I play MUL-T so I'm biased as fuck
like its not really spectacular on its own, its just... yeah, it does that, and its strong-ish, but its not very exciting
yeah most of the time I pick up alien head I just go oh ok
hardlight afterburner for most characters immediately becomes way cooler than alien head
yeah
a theme I notice with this game is that instant burst damage feels more powerful to most players than damage over time
nature's gift is sick cause its originally a mage item and for ror2 its basically an item designed for artificer
which is why a lot of people love capacitor
soooo like
and preon
disposable missile launcher my favourite damage equip
I hate disposable
my favorite is probably volcanic egg
I always feel like it targets the worst things to target and does no damage
solid fun equip
egg is cool but it kinda falls off for me later in game
duh
it's fun if you have egg helfire with MUL-T
everything falls off
and you just become a flying orb of death
also like
- AAAAAAA battery, green item: grants a small amount of base shield. reduce shield recharge timer
- untitled shield item, red item: heal a portion of your shield health on kill. when above 50% shield, gain a massive damage/stat boost
Healing/Barrier Items
- Bird Bracelet, green item: gives Regenerative for a (very) short time after big hits (like bands)
- Utility Belt, green item: gives barrier on utility cast)``` i also got these bad babies lined up too
im pretty pumped for the last 2
i once picked up egg with a very very large stack of gestures
it was pain
gesture rework pls
I wanna change gesture but not change it's identity
it's identity is that it turns your equipment into loose cannons that activate more often, but you can't control it
the problem is that you can just get it to where you ALWAYS use it
yeahhh
its identity is inherently self-minimizing
putting a hard cap is boring
just remove it lol
I think it should remove your ability to use equipment, and then not always use equipment when it comes off cooldown, and randomly decides every 5-10 seconds whether or not to use it
idk how stacking would work tho
mehehhhhh
that would instantly make it go to like a D tier lmao
good ngl
I mean it doesn't have to be 5-10 seconds
Tonic’s still busted that way tho
what I said isn't perfectly balanced, but allows more changes to the item to potentially balance it better
i think the whole identity of firing fast is not worth saving
itd be better to just buckle full into the autofire aspect rather than trying to accomodate for its current, obviously broken, state
I would make mods but I lack the motivation and time ngl
like fire fast + autofire is always going to be inherently low stakes no matter how you twist it
well, there are cases like tincture and volcanic egg but in that case why would you do that
Fun
people complain that gesture sucks with preon because preon has such a long cooldown, so i think gesture should be more like that
if damage equipment were to not exist at all gesture would be a completely different story
increase cooldown, increase equipment power, autofire
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I've never heard this part of the song before ngl
boom, high stakes, interesting interactions, fun item
does preon got ukelele effect nearby enemy??
i saw some ukelele effect when it got fired on enemy nearby
Yes
the main projectile arcs onto nearby enemies for damage yes
Like arti nano bomb
it's either 400% or 600% I forgot
it kinda sucks though it makes it where preon main attack doesn't proc the bands
Or bfg
royal capilator? is that what is it called?
yeah....
also what the heck game discussion 2 more active than 1
The preon is the same as the bfg from doom
gd1 just dies sometimes
wow, no way!
magik
also what the heck game discussion 2 more active than 1
Magic
damn i kinda need interesting ideas for health items and armor items
Majik
majic
armor item,tbh i would like to see an armor hp
what
since there's barrier
oh
ror2 health type mod
its damage reduction
oh,armor exist??
yes
rose buckler, jade elephant
then with my mod, its cobalt shield and frozen turtle shell
jade elephant,is cool
yeah armor gives you percentage based damage reduction iirc
OH and maybe worm scarf or something similar
oooo
yeah thats right all of my armor items are gonna be from terraria
i still have absolutely no health item ideas though, fuck
band of rege- no jk
thats literally
- Bird Bracelet, green item: gives Regenerative for a (very) short time after big hits (like bands)
band of CrocoRegen
The items I’d like to see personally are more boss items and heresy items
obviously not the same function haha
it’s like a fire/ice band but... survivability
im mostly adding armor items, shield items, barrier items, health items
YES
its literally the only thing they actually needed to do with the mechanic
but instead they went with damage, which is admittedly very cool, but its not what was needed
bands have become a pretty important part of the game now tho, i think it’s cool
yea
but yeah, i really like this addition
i mean people keep saying "heavy hitters need more items to be viable and compare to fast hitters!" when in reality they dont and the only thing thats actually needed is a heavy hitting healing item
maybe theres a synonym for item that starts with the letter H
yep, now that i think of it heavy hitters are slept on for healing
heavy hitting healing hitem
i rly like the ideas of this mod so far
SMLeach
oh theres way more stuff lol but its mostly balance
definitely a little controversial
Is there anyone else that’s working on this with you?
nope just me
Cus this sounds like it can be a huge thing
meh
Like what they do to the binding of Isaac
infusion scaling? pog
yyyyup
that’s awesome
medkit qol too, i really like that change
Just a huge mod that change the game and almost make it another
lol for the most part this will still resemble ror2
not the lategame tho
the lategame will feel a lot different, hopefully
hmm i feel medkit’s healing is a little low but idk what i’d change it to
thats the point 😳
part of my issue is that chip damage is kinda meaningless so i reduced a lot of the game's healing
and im replacing it with armor, health, shield, barrier
hmm neato
i did always find medkit to be super underwhelming though, and i feel it’ll be scrap fodder in comparison to the new items
old medkit, i mean
new medkit stacks too well
medkit with rex
is pretty cool synergies
i always thought it was one of the stronger healing whites
well,
but yeah
pre 1.0 there wasn’t much for actual decent healing whites so yeah
even post 1.0, 1.0 didnt add any healing whites
i meant to say stronger healing item in general tho
1.0 monster tooth feels fine but medkit feels way too powerful for a white healing
ah yeah
monster tooth got the wrong kind of buff imo
it still feels awful to pick up and use even though its quite powerful now
well, at least it heals for a considerable amount
so i reverted the % healing and made it way easier to use
thank you for the pickup range buff lmao
it is really really REALLY nice
what does the 2nd change on tougher times mean?
it used to add 15
ohhhh right
but 15 is small when halved
im dumb lol
tougher times will not change for me in this mod, because i always scrap it for it’s tendency to let me down anyway 😎
lol
tougher times will be less of a letdown in this mod hopefully
the intent is to make it a nice qol type of supplementary effect
not, like, an absolute necessity, primary means of player defense type bs
because dodge chance is not meant for that, and especially not dodge chance up to 100%
tougher times is one of my least favourite whites honestly
it’s the same reason why i hate dodge in pd2
i hate leaving my survival to a dice roll because what if i get two bad rolls in a row?
i’d rather passive damage reduction
ye
like in ror1
yoooo
not a big buff
its mostly going to be splitting a part of it's armor boost to simply be passive
also guillotine is gone 
i don’t particularly enjoy guillotine’s existence
idk why i don’t like it
i just don’t
its very very unexciting
also trivializes certain elite bosses
jellynuke is gone
🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀
crab
Crab
tesla removal is an interesting decision, i can see why tho
CRab
tesla is fundamentally an autoplay item no matter how much its numbers get tweaked
yep
its almost insulting
since everything stacks right? does guilitine stack?
ah thanks
to answer your question: yes
oh
it seems you are really against the stuff that easily dispatches trash monsters with little effort
i dont blame you
yeah
well its mostly that damaging onkill effects can proc stuff like mad, and those procs will kill stuff, and those kills will spawn onkill effects, and itll loop endlessly
thats why i call it autoplay, because it effectively does all combat for you
i was thinking about drawing out a chart of what i mean
maybe i’ll actually enjoy lategame with these changes
like a flowchart
the idea is effectively that there shouldnt be 2-way arrows between facets of gameplay, and that most if not all interactions should stem from player action and input
So it’s a lot more engaging than how it is now
also willowisp radius no longer stacks, finally, semblance of balance with that item
so autoplay is a 2-way arrow between procs and onkills, generally speaking, which means combat can completely ignore player input, given enough power
but autoplay also involves a 1-way arrow from tesla to both procs and onkills, and tesla is not connected to player action at all
that’d be neat
it’s like royal capacitor but clears trash instead of doing massive burst damage
tesla equip sounds p neat
alright i did it
heres my epic chart of game design and balance
and then heres how to fix it
I think you should emphasize the onkill and proc loop since that’s what you’re trying to target
firework, little disciple, and nkuhanas opinion are borderline toxic but its also neat that other facets of player action get to interact with combat
here it is, complete
yes, i am an artist
what
Its onkill
tesla got its own spot because its a fucking bastard
also honorable mention to gesture of the drowned who effectively fulfills the same niche
but doesnt just play the game for you, it actually revokes control
awesome! so fun!
hhh
im gonna actually cry
gesture can be entertaining but is a mistake of balance
elegantly put
and in other news i am now of the opinion that tesla would have been better as an equip
yea
equip tesla could pretty much be emergency trash clearer as opposed to “welp guess wisps no longer matter and also if you’re in the late game with good proc and on kill chains say goodbye to gameplay”
proc coeff would have to be nerfed by .1 or more tho, cuz yikes
is that not what DML is tho
no?
i have never had a moment where dml actually worked to clear trash
except for gesture abuse which is.. a thing
hello gd2
hi!
heya
(dml kinda sucks, i only like it because it looks funny and isn’t the meta)
bro if minions were to actually be useful that would be Phukkin Great
just one item would be so much better than no item
they literally have all the systems set up for it
like just give items to drones and allies
its like it was meant to be
its uh... technically autoplay, but drones are also fun
how would arms race work for beebles? chance for more damage?
no, they would just get items...
oh
i feel like some items should be whitelisted for minion use
stuff like tri tip would be blacklisted i’d think
uhhh
i meant like
give drones atg, willowisp, gasoline, behemoth
and sticky bomb
also cool but goat hooves
well yea
human polyps
people polyp
carbonizer polyp
so your arms race would let drones beebles polyps and stuff inherit items? is there a limit to the items? does it increase per stack?
ooh you mean they literally get them
drones with behemoth? yooo
it's pog
Imagine talking on this channel haha
- #gd1-nullified gang
gd2 is good unlike #gesture-discussion-1
One word: no
wrong opinion 😎 
Why are you arguing about channels that are for the same topic?
I don't see argument
No argument, straight facts
Gd2 trying to feel better about themselves by talking down gd1
you know we all participate in both chats right
I have never once talked in gd2
I was not talking about you lol
uh wha
what do you think you died to?
uhh clay dunster stuff?
you mean the suck?
Think it's just whatever the game doesnt identify as a direct enemy attack
yeah, but most of them like the %burn debuff were actually changed to normal messeges
also dunestriders suck outputs killed by planet
stuff like fall damage and pots also say killed by planet right
actually kinda weird, i would have really thought it just counted as a regular attack
yeah, i know about pots and falldamage
i think so, but let me test
Since thats kind of an indirect attack too
clay dunestrider sucks me to hard
Weird that it's just that one attack then
indeed
actually maybe it's because the attack can hit both enemies and allies?
same for the explosions from pot
that might explain it
That'd make sense yeah, that it's more of a terrain effect than an attack
you guys know how to play poupon
why was that 3 clay? i hit only 1 challenge chrine ;w;
good question
shrine doesn't double bosses, but gives the tele more credits to spawn them
now about stone titans
well rip me
at least you didn't get an elite
everyones collective thought on dunestriders is "bullshit"
i don't mind them honestly
i mean come on
you don't need speed to get away from them
scavs are supposed to be bullshit
yes
but i really don't think dunestrider is that bad
especially when the bag is near an edge
his suck deals 3% damage per tick if you're not too close
thats just plain trolling
you don't have to kill them near an edge
do you think that when you have gesture and disposable missle/royal cap
would you hold the tesla coil like a club or a mushroom
hey, havent played in a year or so. would someone mind helping me get some artifacts
hey, havent played in a year or so. would someone mind helping me get some artifacts
sure pal
I can see 😎 😎 😎
dunestrider ez
you don't need movespeed items to break free from the dunestrider's tethers
you just need to 180 and sprint away from it for a moment to get far enough away to break the tether
also before you get it low, kill all the enemies around it
no 180 degrees, (dunestrider) ------->
Dunestriders are only bad on the 5th loop when a friendly ghost one sucks you and insta kills you
just scrap your happiest mask because happiest mask is so astronomically bad of a legendary
but ghosts are spoopy
if you scrap a happiest mask on halloween you will be cursed for whole year
But it hurts you more then it helps honestly
but think about the spoopy ghost that you would be giving up
mmm... he’s right...
wait
new withor picture
what
"yeah, I just changed it" and "i can test" are my favorite withor quotes
when sundered grove is coming to the others platforms?
At some point

befuddle LOL
when you have infinite uptime tonic and it goes down during mithrix's final phase, do you roll for all of the past tonics you've drank?
my friend had tonic on eclipse and it rolled all for him, but one of my friends is very adamant about it not being the case and is saying it's just on eclipse
it will roll after every time the effect ends so its not rolling all at once, youre just suddenly not immune to them all
so youll have all the afflictions while youre in perma uptime but youll just be immune to them until it wears off
i thought you only rolled when your tonic went down and you dont roll unless you come out of tonic


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