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rare meadow
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explain

fluid notch
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Things have calmed down

merry knot
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Here is mithrix with the five elite skins. I dont know where to post it but i wanted to share. The last one is the unused aspect of fortune

plush patrol
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oh god

dull ingot
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Oh god

plush patrol
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imagine fighting malachite mithrix

dull ingot
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Im shittin' me self

eternal needle
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You're gonna need a MUCH bigger Ukulele

tired axle
mild brook
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lmao

tawny bloom
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show me malachite equipment drone

tired axle
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i could probably just cheat in the equip

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give me a sec

merry knot
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I did it with bandit and one of the aspects crumpled up his hat

tired axle
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the head move really weirdly

plush patrol
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how about malachite tc-280? 😳

tired axle
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comming right up

zinc kernel
plush patrol
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oh boy

zinc kernel
tired axle
zinc kernel
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yeah the jets are kinda sus

plush patrol
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maybe tc280 controls when a human is controlling is kinda weird haha

tired axle
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nah it's just because of the equip

plush patrol
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ohh

tired axle
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it normally makes your head twitch

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i guess the jets are technically it's head

plush patrol
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weird

tired axle
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btw. the wiki states malachite elites shoot out 3-4 spikes, but i can defintaly see 5 right now

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gonna test this with some even bigger mob

plush patrol
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actually

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you can become mithrix right?

tired axle
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yes

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you can even fight mithrix as mithrix

plush patrol
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would it be possible for me to become mithrix in a run and then complete it

tired axle
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only in multiplayer

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you to tall to activate the tele by yourself

plush patrol
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mfw

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suffering from success

tired axle
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lmao

plush patrol
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im kinda new to ror2, how do you access the console

tired axle
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it didn't do it using the console; i used cheat engine

plush patrol
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ohhh i saw that mod on thunderstore

tired axle
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cheat engine is a program that allows you to change values in games

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it's not a mod

plush patrol
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oop

tired axle
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but i guess the mod also works

plush patrol
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sorry about that haha

tired axle
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no worries

plush patrol
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but would be interesting to do that with friends

tired axle
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yeah

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you can also do it alone on some characters

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i beat a monsoon run as missile drone once

plush patrol
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lmao there was a mod that had it so that instead of spectating we became a missile drone to help in the fight

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it was super underpowered lmao

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it caused errors so we removed it but it was super funny

tired axle
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yeah, missile drone needs a buff

merry knot
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The rorcheats mod is better than cheat engine imo because you can change characters on demand and spawn items with buttons

tired axle
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the only reason i use cheat engine for stuff like this is because i often forget to start the game modded

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rorcheats is just better

merry knot
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As do i. It is annoying to have to go through the bepis loader

tired axle
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yeah

merry knot
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I really wish one of them had a way to just start the teleporter so you could play as big boys

tired axle
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that would be pretty nice

plush patrol
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you could just switch to like, a beetle on demand and then back to mithrix

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or whoever you were playing as

tired axle
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i guess that would work

merry knot
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True, i did that but brining up the character menu is hard cuz you have to hold tab and its not always functional. You can assign custom buttons but it doesnt seem to work for me

tired axle
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yeah, it's a bit wonky

merry knot
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At least you can keep the menu up. It blocks site though and i dont think it can be moved

tired axle
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you can also use the menu in esc

plush patrol
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thats a pain

merry knot
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I tried that but it didnt work, but it wasnt the charmenu. I will definitely try that again

tired axle
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i'm not sure about the char menu actually

merry knot
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True. I think it has to be unpaused to work

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You can still open it though so thats nice

tired axle
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yeah, has to be unpaused

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also why is acrid called croco?

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is that his file name?

plush patrol
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maybe

merry knot
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It is. Rex is treebot and artificer is mage

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Mult is also toolbot

remote smelt
merry knot
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That was beautiful!

remote smelt
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Wasn't it?

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Still got no idea what actually happened

misty shore
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Seriously when is the 1.0 update coming to console

tired axle
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fall

misty shore
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So just "sometime" in September or October?

dense pumice
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more like November

slender rivet
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this means that is just going to be one more , and that is all? like they will just leave the game like that?

plush patrol
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no

slender rivet
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ohhh thank you

misty shore
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November!?

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damn

plush patrol
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there will be dlc in the future

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supposedly the size of multiple content updates

slender rivet
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okok that calmed me

misty shore
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Hey I'd pay a lot for dlc for this game. Its worth it!

slender rivet
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of corse

hasty cloak
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Same

plush patrol
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i would pay 60 bucks for this game haha

misty shore
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I'd love some Map packs or even survivor skins as dlc

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Not overly expensive but something little alongside larger DLC like full content updates

slender rivet
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I'd love some Map packs or even survivor skins as dlc
@misty shore
I prefer skins to be achieved with challenges personally

misty shore
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True

plush patrol
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agreed

misty shore
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I'm just hyped for console 1.0, I can't help but fantasize about more content

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I think map packs would be cool as dlc though. even just varients of maps

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like Titanic planes but in the fall

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or a summer themed Rallypoint delta

plush patrol
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well, each dlc is going to be the size of multiple CU so there probably will be more maps, characters, items etc. added

misty shore
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Oh cool!

plush patrol
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at least that's how I see it

misty shore
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Can't wait for that

worthy sapphire
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Neither can I

plush patrol
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this is what it said specifically in dev thoughts

worthy sapphire
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They said that each dlc will be themed

misty shore
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I really hope the update isn't November, I've been waiting for what feels like ages

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especially since the pushback for the update.

dense pumice
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It's most likely going to be November 🤷‍♂️ Could even be December

worthy sapphire
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What if they have like a retro expansion and they added like golden gun, ancient scepter, hyper threader and miner or smth back?

plush patrol
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i didnt play ror1 so idk

worthy sapphire
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That would be fucki f hype

misty shore
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Ohh like an expansion that adds in a bunch of stuff from ror 1

worthy sapphire
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Ancient scepter is such a cool item and it'll be even cooler in ror1 with the skill load out mechanic

dense pumice
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If they add Hyper Threader, I hope they also keep the memory leak connected to it 🙂 more ways to crash my game

worthy sapphire
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What ancient scepter did was upgrade the 4th skill of a character

misty shore
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I want them to overhaul the cosmetic system. the skins would stay the same but you could unlock hats/accessories to wear on top of them

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All achievement based of course

worthy sapphire
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Mercenary eviscerate becomes massacre, which gets it's duration refreshed every time you kill an enemy

plush patrol
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oh god

worthy sapphire
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Engineer gets a 3rd turret

misty shore
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Dude imagine if the hardlight afterburner added turret charges

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so you'd have 4

plush patrol
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bungus field

misty shore
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My favorite strategy is squid polyp+bungus

plush patrol
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polyp's use your items?

misty shore
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Find a printer and spawn a billion polyps and then make them immortal

merry knot
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My prediction is that the first content update will feature clayman, bandit, and his robot spiders

misty shore
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no use your turrets to outheal the polyps decay

plush patrol
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ohh

misty shore
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then they stay. its a great source of dps

merry knot
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Pylops shouldnt decay. Makes me sad

misty shore
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I guess

plush patrol
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would be overpowered if they didnt

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not really nevermind

worthy sapphire
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Would it?

misty shore
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but then you could lag out the game so easily

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omg imagine if they came with you when you progressed stages

merry knot
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Dont forget they can still be killed

misty shore
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they were just placed randomly across the map

dense pumice
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Well, there's a limit to how many minions you can have at once, so it wouldn't crash really

plush patrol
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my friend had a mod where shrine of chance was unlimited, and then he hacked it with captain's hacking beacon

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the amount of squid polyps were staggering due to him also having a mod that removed ally cap

merry knot
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Iv never bothered to reach the cap

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I forgot all about it

plush patrol
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allies are kinda bad once you get past the first loop

merry knot
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True. Even the big drone faulters quickly

plush patrol
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TC-280 is unfortunately bad 😔

merry knot
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Its not a weapons problem- hes the only fun drone to play as. But yes, he is because his ai is buggy and hes just too damn big

plush patrol
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yeah

pearl hedge
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and his green/red lights are the wrong way round

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birdangry ffs hopoo

hexed nest
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squid polyp best friend 😔

distant patio
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im one trophy away from platinum

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how do you get the "chase crabs off the map" throphy most efficiently?

dense pumice
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You could try Rex with the base Shift. Cube also helps a lot

spare forum
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^ or both

dense pumice
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Also, take a Newt Altar on Stage 5 so that you can Seer onto Titanic Plains

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Which is the only place where you can chase crabs off the edge

magic narwhal
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It’s pretty easy since it can be done on multiple runs just do titanic planes stage 6 and use an ability to knock them off or if you’re too strong t pose next to the crabs to force them to run in the opposite direction @distant patio

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Rex is great since he has both the pull which can help get them closer or yonk them off the edge and he can boop them off as well

distant patio
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sounds great, thanks for the tips!

pastel elk
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I think loaders alt secondary can work too

lucid whale
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ok so people are just talking about pokemon in the other one so, the game deleted my profile and all of my progress, is there something I can do?

dense pumice
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🤷‍♂️

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If you don't have a backup, it's probably gone

lucid whale
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sweet

pastel elk
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You used to be able to go into the code and give yourself items, idk if that’s still a thing tho

lucid whale
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ill just use an unlock all mod

hollow cloak
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So I'm curious; Who's going to buy the game on Stadia?

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I think I will

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it'll be cool to be able to play this when I'm at "work"

hexed nest
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hmm

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stadia doesn't seem like the most promising thing to play on

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i'd rather get my toe run over by a van

hollow cloak
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if you have good basic internet it's fine

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  • it's free to use
hexed nest
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is the game free as well?

hollow cloak
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is the game free on steam?

hexed nest
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yeah totally man

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lmao

dull ingot
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I think a cool dlc would be going to the imp dimension. Because when they die they fall into a portal. And in the first they came out of a portal. What do u guys think?

slender current
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once you beat eciplse 8 can you choose which number you want to play on?

plain crown
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Hey, who's ready to speedrun RoR ? (ofc the 100% category )

nocturne gulch
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stadia seems like a scam and I will never touch it

iron elbow
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Because it is a scam

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If google shuts down servers, you lose all the money you put in and basically have a pile of garbage because you don’t pay for a download or a physical copy you pay for the ability to stream from their servers. If they ever shut the servers down, stadia users will literally have no way to play any of the games they purchase

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And considering google’s history of scrapping shit, it’s not wise to trust that they’ll keep the servers up if the sales are unsatisfactory

ancient minnow
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Stadia was always doomed to fail from the first day i saw that man with the awful sense of style

iron elbow
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I don’t know if anything has changed I haven’t kept up with it, but that was the way it came out

misty trout
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has anyone come across a glitch that when Mithrix instantly dies at phase 3, his 4th phase begins and the moon also startings exploding, spawning the mobs and all?
happened to me today and lost a good run because of it

low oasis
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Is there a chance that the stadia exclusive map get released on the steam version ?

worthy depot
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It's a timed exclusive so yes its coming to steam

iron elbow
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Eeeeee

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That’s like them releasing a mobile version for your phone and giving them timed exclusives

unreal sky
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I was trying to get the final artifact in ror1 and for some reason the artifact of enigma glitched my health to near infinite only for it to take it all away with a voodoo doll and I died

iron elbow
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Rest in pepperonis

unreal sky
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I had 5000 regenerating health

iron elbow
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Prolly

dull ingot
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i dont have steam what are the recommended specs?

iron elbow
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No idea

zealous stump
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google is your friend @dull ingot

dull ingot
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ya i looked it up lol sorry

hollow arch
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just chiming in here to say I completely support paid expansions! I think it's a good way to keep designing a game you guys like to work on (I hope atleast!) while making sure you can continue to operate. I have faith these packs will be well worth the money!

low oasis
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Until they sell you 1 map 1 survivor 2 enemies and 2 items for 20$

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👀

raven lichen
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so far theyve been good about things, lets not slippery slope ourselves. If it happens, we can say it isnt really a fair deal, but we cant throw them under the bus for something they havent done yet because of PTSD from other devs aha

dull ingot
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Has anyone tried this?

raven lichen
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nevermind they do act kinda weird, they ignite enemies

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only missiles launched while ifrits is active I think? im still playing with it

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they definitely still explode. They just also ignite enemies which makes sense

boreal mortar
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What's infrits?

gritty arrow
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It's the Elite Aspect of Blazing

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Ifrit's Distinction it's called

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If you don't know what elite aspects are. Basically Elites have chance to drop their respective "element". You can grab it as an equipment and it'll give you their powers

leaden crag
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and they're pretty useless

gritty arrow
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Well i wouldn't say useless just outshined

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cuz getting the overloading one isn't that bad

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blazing one gives you 1 debuff for Death Mark

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same as glacial

leaden crag
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still having almost any damage equipment is better then having an aspect

raven lichen
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I partly wish they were better but also do not really want scarier enemies.

zinc kernel
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@slender current no

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it forces you on eclipse 8

hollow cloak
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@iron elbow so steam is a scam

iron elbow
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No if I remember correctly, you can download games from your library and start them manually

silver plover
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with steam at least you keep the game's files

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with stadia you don't own the game itself at all. you own a license that lets you stream the game from their servers

hollow cloak
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with steam if you don't connect to the servers after said time you can't play them

iron elbow
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Yeah the game is on your computer and you can still go in and run the exe without needing steams servers to be functioning again I haven’t had a computer in years but this is what I remember

silver plover
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steam isn't a perfect system either but there are benefits to it that stadia does not have at all

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not to mention steam isn't a subscription service to begin with. stadia is

iron elbow
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Plus steam is a reputable and established brand that has proven dependable. Look up all the projects google has started that ended in the dumpster and tell me you trust them to have the follow through to maintain this system despite it flopping quite terribly and also the amount of upkeep is crazy. If their system crashes, you can’t play. Whereas if steam crashes again this is from what I remember so I might be wrong, you can still boot up the game manually

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Also full price for a game you don’t own

silver plover
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i dont even think you need to do it manually, steam literally just has an offline mode that you can use to launch games

hollow cloak
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no steam drm wont let you play the game

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and you do own the game...

iron elbow
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No you don’t

hollow cloak
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you buy it you own it

iron elbow
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You have a license to stream the game through the system

hollow cloak
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play whenever where-ever for free

iron elbow
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You don’t have the files. You don’t have any part of the game

hollow cloak
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you have a licence with Steam too

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what's your point

iron elbow
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If you can’t connect to internet you can’t play any games

silver plover
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to download it, yes
but once you download it you can play it without being on the internet at all

hollow cloak
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no

silver plover
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steam literally has an offline mode. you can play steam games even if every steam server farm was nuked from orbit at once

hollow cloak
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no access to steam servers after said time you can't play that game

silver plover
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"said time" is very unclear

hollow cloak
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it's l;ike 24 hours

silver plover
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i have a hard time believing you when you're so non-specific

iron elbow
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My point is, you’re essentially paying for the ability to borrow a game from the license holders. You don’t have any of the files and through the terms of service, if their system crashes, they don’t owe you a single piece of the game you paid for

hollow cloak
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the best platform in that case is GOG

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as you can download and play offline, unlike stadia and steam

silver plover
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when i google "How long can you use steam offline?" the top several results are forum threads of people saying that a time limit literally does not exist unless the game itself uses its own DRM

hollow cloak
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@iron elbow I rather not have storage used for a game I don't own than steam which is the same thing

iron elbow
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If you want my suggestion, buy physical and buy indie. Indie devs actually put some neat stuff in physical copies of games and no money grubbing corporation can dispute that you own a copy of the game

silver plover
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I've never had any problem with steam staying in offline mode forever. I thought that's how it's meant to work? I might be interpreting the question wrong but my sister likes using my account on her computer. I make her stay in offline mode so games don't backup etc. She's always on offline mode, it's been that way for almost a year I would say.
from https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/3p9be8/how_long_can_steam_stay_in_offline_mode/

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if a game has asked you to connect to the internet to play it probably has its own DRM, implemented by the developers, not steam

hollow cloak
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most "physical games" just have an exe to download the game

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@silver plover it's steam that asks you to connect. Next time you get the "continue offline mode" message read it

iron elbow
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Does anyone remember GameFly? The service where you rent games for however long you want or whatever. Imagine that, but you have to buy the game full price. Instead of sending you the game they send you a screen and a controller. The controller uses the internet to play the game that is being stored and actually run somewhere in fuckoff New Jersey or some shit and you don’t get to keep the game if the service goes under

silver plover
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ok, bet
gimme a minute

iron elbow
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This is the service you’re paying for

hollow cloak
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anyone remember GameSpy

iron elbow
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Wait

silver plover
iron elbow
silver plover
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Literally nothing about a time limit. All it says is to start the system in offline mode. Once I clicked that button there were no further messages, it just let me access my library

hollow cloak
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@iron elbow negative propaganda spread for no reason other than to try to get you to not use stadia

iron elbow
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Watch the video

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The second one preferably

hollow cloak
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like you wrong telling people you need to pay for stadia

iron elbow
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It’s less biased

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No I’m right. You pay a subscription fee and pay full price for games you don’t own

hollow cloak
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???? I don't understand the second video

silver plover
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@hollow cloak I was given no message about a time limit when booting Steam while my PC had no internet. Where exactly does that fit into your story?

hollow cloak
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if you don't want to use a controller... don't

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you can mouse and keyboard

iron elbow
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He reviews stadia and it’s launch. Just watch him. He’s a sweet guy

silver plover
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(ignoring my point, i see. top mind)

iron elbow
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Oh he reminded me of another point. Speaking of propaganda, stadia ads repeatedly spammed the message of 4K 60fps or some shit I don’t care about. The point is, they made the claim that it ran games as good as the x box 1x I think it’s called and a high end pc

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It don’t tho

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They lied.

silver plover
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most people don't even have internet good enough to stream that

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my internet is above average and it struggles with 1080p60 livestreams sometimes

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that's without input being streamed back to the servers

hollow cloak
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well that's not a fault of Stadia

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that's the fault of your provider

silver plover
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it is if they don't know what their target audience is

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people who have the money to pay for internet that can handle 4K streaming probably have enough money to afford a gaming PC

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if they don't include the crucial context of "btw you need REALLY good internet to actually get this performance" people will be upset and leave the service. people from their target demographic will be upset with the quality of the service. that is an advertising failure

iron elbow
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Yeah well the fact that they promise that as a guarantee without disclosing the issue with isps and data caps is slimy and manipulative

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But go ahead. Consume media

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Consume product

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Don’t be a smart buyer. Smart buyers aren’t happy buyers

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Part 2 if you wanna watch this sweet gentleman talk more

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I know I do

hollow cloak
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wow that guy is really send negative press to Stadia... why?

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3 videos on the same thing

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use stadia other steam at the very least, as it's the better option

iron elbow
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Because it’s a scam

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Google is intentionally marketing this product in a way that is manipulative

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They failed to offer features they promised on launch

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You need to be connected to internet the entirety of your gaming experience.

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Your experience with the game entirely hinges on how much you invest in the product.

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You’re paying for a service a controller and a chromecast not a console.

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Mans like but stadia got good ads headass no negative press allowed 😦
Not how that works. Shit products will be treated like shit as they should be. You’re the customer and you should be entitled to the service you were promised and paid for

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If they don’t deliver then you don’t give them money

eager badger
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We are at least getting a new stage out of this

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Hopefully

iron elbow
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It’s like controlling the fuckin mars rover to play the game for you and then he shoots back a fuckin jpeg of the 60 dollars you were scammed out of

eager badger
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So stadia bad, Sundered Grove good

iron elbow
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Yes

eager badger
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Stadia was such a good concept

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Too good to be true

iron elbow
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It’s a good concept but completely unviable

silver plover
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im stoked for Grove tbh. if nothing else im glad stadia basically just paid hopoo to make more content

eager badger
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Yes

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Money is always a good motivation

iron elbow
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True true

eager badger
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Specially if we the players get more content

iron elbow
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But being paid by stadia is like being sponsored by McDonald’s

dull ingot
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But being paid by stadia is like being sponsored by McDonald’s
@iron elbow
Except McDonald's actually has a history of being good sometimes.

iron elbow
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@iron elbow
Except McDonald's actually has a history of being good sometimes.
@dull ingot ayyyyy zapped em

dull ingot
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Bruh McDonalds used to have a program to pay towards like 15K worth of student loans just by working part time near your college

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Ended years ago tho I'm pretty sure... you can imagine why

silver plover
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i think a better way to put it would be that McDonalds is at least a functional and successful business model

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Stadia? nah.

dull ingot
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Stadia feels like how steam's peer-to-peer couch party play feels

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It's just loppy and not good

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TBH it probably would've gone well if they waited... ehhhh 10-15 years for most of the US to get a better network infrastructure?

timber rover
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That's being hopeful considering how badly Google fiber flopped.

opaque bluff
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Is this risk of rain 2 server

silver plover
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ye

opaque bluff
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Cool

tired juniper
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man

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me and friends were doing command/vengeance/other artifacts run

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friend went loader and just stacked crowbars, focus crystals, and razorwires

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i place a primordial cube thing at the teleporter and he misses

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we all die to razorwire lmao

lapis cosmos
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btw if stadia shuts their servers down, you will lose all your games

wooden wasp
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the input lag with stadia is incredible
and not in a good way

plain mulch
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Where my huntress mains at?

pine iris
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not here

mystic mural
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me sir, huntress op

nimble leaf
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Defiant Gouge doesn't give monsters after teleport event done?

tired axle
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nope

loud estuary
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saw a couple comments online saying only one person can unlock Ascendant at a time ie only the person who activates the shrines -- can anyone confirm if this is the case?

modest trout
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Anyone else try stacking soldier syringes, leeching seed, double healing, and nkuhana's opinion on R.E.X yet?

livid frigate
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are there gonna be more survivors?

leaden crag
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also there is a drone shop in there

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and a "strange display" which permanently unlocks something

coarse cradle
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strange display could be a reference to artificer if its not somewhere else

wild pulsar
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:0

past minnow
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hm

teal bridge
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Drone shop?

hard umbra
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Maybe it is some unfinished content coming in the next update.

leaden crag
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or cut content that they didn't remove the code for

slender rivet
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1 question , if i delete the game i will lost my progres?

dull shoal
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anyone want to play duo?

tired axle
modest trout
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So do you think they'll add Bandit in the "final update" ?

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Since he has a model in game, you think they'd add him.

zinc kernel
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he has a basically complete moveset too

candid vigil
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Hi

modest trout
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Hello!

candid vigil
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I have good stats with the loader want to see

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Ok nevermide

real patio
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I'm a true master of engineer gaming

tired juniper
#

did you enjoy getting pulled toward your turrets

wary haven
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@real patio Contrats!

grave herald
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Anyone know if player levels make enemies more difficult?

proper slate
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Can anyone explain why people find huntress fun?

grave herald
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eg. taking void fields and gaining ~4 levels. compared to not, does that give you an edge

silver plover
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@grave herald no, enemies only scale with time, not with your level

grave herald
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thanks!

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Can anyone explain why people find huntress fun?
@proper slate personally, being able to run and gun, evade using blink, and not really needing to aim, and her being squishy. all together make her fun

proper slate
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thanks for the insight

lapis cosmos
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Her m2 is very fun. I just imagine pinball sound effects as it bounces from enemy to enemy @proper slate

south token
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they STILL haven't added an option to disable the intro?

proper slate
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i guess not

proud plume
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The huntress glaive is sick as fuck

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One of the funnest things to do is stacking speed on mul-T and just nyoooooom running over mobs

lunar solar
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Bruh why is every quickplay game a drizzle command run, I just wanna play multi-player without getting god tier set ups every run

proud plume
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Add people on this server that want what you want

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Randoms just want to shut their brain off

glacial vault
#

Bandit reloaded added the alt skills right?

nimble valley
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guys i finally got the irradiant pearl

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i used the savedgames mod to do it over multiple days

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because of the mod is says it was beaten on rainstorm but you can see in the other picture it is on monsoon

glad laurel
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Using the artifact of enigma makes getting pearl pretty ez with sacrifice and swarm. U just shuffle actives into lunars, and pick up new actives from sacrifice

gentle pulsar
raven lichen
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What is the lazer 👀 👀 👀

gentle pulsar
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its just a perma lazer beam of saws

raven lichen
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Truly a lot of bleed stacks, very powerful

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I thought you meant the beam to the right haha

safe jacinth
#

Is anyone else having connection issues?

modest trout
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No? I think it may just be you Mono 😄

burnt fable
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Just realized rex is pretty boppin

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Currently my favorite survivor

fallow depot
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hes fantastic

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just had a good run earlier with him, felt absolutely powerful

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i was 3 shotting the boss on stage 2 lol

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thanks sawmerang

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awu even gave me rejuv rack :)

bronze tree
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Just completed Eclipse 8. Feels so good.

junior pumice
#

So if you get one glass, that completely destroys OSP, right?

raven lichen
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Yes, it removes >10% of your max hp

tired juniper
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shouldn't that be >=10%?

raven lichen
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Possibly? Not actually sure, since nothing takes exactly 10% afaik.

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Could probably engineer a test with E8, assuming it doesnt disable OSP elsewhere

junior pumice
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All I want to do is unlock rex's alternate skin :(

raven lichen
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@severe chasm , since you asked earlier...

Late ping, but I was stuck at the office really late whoops. Wanted to share anyways, basically the takeaway here is that because you are so consistently matching levels with enemies, your poison is basically never dealing %hp damage as acrid, so blight is barely less dmg at 1 stack, and slightly to greatly more at multiple stacks, all with the added scaling later and ability to be true fire and forget since it kills. Someone did bring up special boss scaling earlier which I need to look into, so the health nums on like Aurelionite or AWU may not be 100%, but most bosses have a ton of health and prefer poison past like stage 3 or 4 anyways.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j0q9cUtSx_aEKkLg1BPpiHgOiVD3mySE9wd72uTo_H0/edit?usp=sharing

severe chasm
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Thank you. Have you tested it out on Mithrix?

raven lichen
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I believe he has special scaling as well, and a tooon of health so id assume poison is preffered, since you cant rely on backup mags in stage 4. early on theres a chance, but I need to figure out special scaling first

severe chasm
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Ok cool. Thank you!

raven lichen
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yup! At the very least I dont feel bad saying it isnt terrible! haha

polar orbit
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strat for captain?

raven lichen
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preffered beacons?

polar orbit
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hack and health so far? but im kinda new to the character so Im just trying to feel out what to do

rotund bronze
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hacktain is best

raven lichen
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I like the heal hack combo, it feels good to me. M2 is a good stall on targets you dont want to deal with yet, like elite golems or bison. M1 does a lot of damage and procs like mad, so bleed is pretty good. Also crit affects the entire shot, so crit is pretty good. Heal is good for locking down an area, if you dont have much other healing corpsebloom can actually be strong, allowing you to just dip in and out of the heal field. Hack is best used saving time on really expensive stuff like legendary chests or gold shrines. Otherwise focus defensive items and movespeed, with M1 carrying you. Also bands on orbital feels really good.

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If you cant find good stuff, remember that shrines always pay out at least twice, so are at least 2 small chests of value when hacked. Large chests are 2 small chests in value, so if theres nothing bigger a few shrines or a drone and a shrine is good value

polar orbit
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yeah hmm ill try thast, ive been trying to focus on attack speed but that makes ense

rotund bronze
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take every item always even the ones your teammates were supposed to get take them all dont stop dont stop take them all dont stop dont stop nightmare nightmare nightmare nightmare nightmare

polar orbit
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hehe

raven lichen
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attack speed scales your passive too, but personally i dont feel that much more powerful beyond just a lil bit of it

rotund bronze
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hacktain has been getting to me

polar orbit
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playing solo n streaming doe : , ( will try my best

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yeah hm i havent noticed attack speed to much apart from tonic

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thanks for the help though

raven lichen
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yea solo makes hack worse, less chests means less likely to get more then 1 or 2 smalls in value aha. thats why i dont really run 2 in solo anymore, but i still take one for rallypoint and abyssal

polar orbit
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still trying to figure out time too, should i go for all the chest then teleporter or other way around?? or maybe a mix?

raven lichen
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ehhh kind of a mix, like the more items you have the better, but if its gonna take you a minute and a half to run across the world it may be better to move on. Part of the skill cap, especially on low movement chars, is pathing through the stages so you dont have to backtrack much

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The key takeaway is that sitting on a chest and waiting for mobs isnt a bad thing, more often then not it means you are ahead and killing quickly, so you can afford to wait and get stronger

polar orbit
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hmm got it, will try to plan out and stuff

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thanks again though

raven lichen
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no worries! Good luck!

versed hazel
#

have we gotten any confirmation on wether sundered grove is coming tothe rest of the platforms?

silver plover
#

yes

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it's (tentatively) coming 30 days after its initial release on Stadia

turbid patio
#

If mithrix was a playable character how would he be unlocked?

glad laurel
#

Is there any trick to increase spawn rate when camping a chest?

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Seems like if i sit still spawns slow so much

zinc kernel
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@glad laurel really the only thing you can do is hit combat or blood shrines for more cash

spiral spear
#

My buddy’s been playing a drizzle run for MUL-T skills and to get gesture but he only just now got Titanic plains in Loop 3 and it was a jellyfish event. And he still hasn’t gotten an Imp Overlord for the boss

finite swallow
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naturally spawned im overlords can appear

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newt to choose titanic plains

spiral spear
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He didn’t want to spend Lunar, plus he just died anyway

zinc flower
#

Imagine not spending lunar coins

zinc kernel
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lunars are fun

zinc flower
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They build up pretty fast from my experience, but I obliterate a lot so that might be part of it

zinc kernel
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gesture needs a rework though

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or a rework

zinc flower
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Why?

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It’s fun the way it is, no need to make it not fun

zinc kernel
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I don't see it as fun

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getting an op lunar item to make the game a lot easier removes a lot of challenge

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and don't say "just don't take it"

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that's not how you fix things

zinc flower
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I mean in general getting a lot of items removed a lot of the challenge

silver plover
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it's not that op

zinc kernel
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it's a lunar with basically no downsides

zinc flower
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It’s not usually very op until you get like 4-5 on command or something

zinc kernel
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well that's just command

silver plover
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right, as a lunar item its design is kinda weird
but that doesn't make it OP

zinc kernel
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it's basically free and it's op as hell

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equipment are powerful items

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doubling their use rate can just break the game if you just get a bunch for free

zinc flower
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Personally I don’t see an issue with it, it’s fun to play with with most equipment and it’s not like this is a super competitive type of game

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Instead of nerfing it why not buff other items

silver plover
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i think that's the better solution, but like... they did that. 1.0 did that quite a bit, and it didn't change how people feel about it

zinc flower
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I’ve never heard people complain about gesture until right now, but I don’t frequent this server usually

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From what I’ve seen people generally like it

silver plover
#

aside from pre-1.0 glass it's probably been the most controversial item in the game since launch

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or at least, one of the biggest subjects of feedback

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everyone likes using it, but there's no consensus on whether or not it's balanced or designed well

zinc flower
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I mean the way I see it if people have THAT much of an issue with it they don’t HAVE to take it

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I mean it’s a good item don’t get me wrong

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But like without some items being worse then there can’t be good items

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So I personally don’t see the point in making the good item bad just to make it feel equal

silver plover
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don't get me wrong i agree with you
i don't think gesture fits the Lunar Item mold as well as others, but I also don't see it as a problem

zinc flower
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Yeah it’s a different one for sure

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Some equipment I wouldn’t want it, like wood sprite or something

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But for others it’s just fun

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It really depends on if you have a good compatible equipment when you get there/if spinel tonic is available

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And if you’re willing to spend like 10 coins on one run to get several gestures

zinc kernel
#

I still think it can basically have no downsides

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the point of a lunar is to have an upside and downside

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so gesture should pretty much be changed

opal plaza
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I wanted a quick game and a quick game is what it gave me

silent cloud
leaden crag
#

wow game discussion 1 is at war

silent cloud
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im tilted Mercenary

opal plaza
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I cant blame you, they hit like trucks

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Also yeah, it's always a chaotic chat, that's why I prefer discussion 2

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On a side note I found something

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But it only can be seen at an angle

silent cloud
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yeah ive been there

opal plaza
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What is it?

silent cloud
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there's nothing interesting

opal plaza
#

I wonder why its there

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Barely even visible

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I only saw it because of tonic

mild sleet
#

Generally devs hide easter eggs out in odd places. Maybe try getting over there sometime with enough hopoo feathers

novel sorrel
#

Ive gone to all the islands in there. One is just empty but the other has 3 giant literal easter eggs on it

opal plaza
#

Ah, interesting

dull ingot
#

how do people have thousands on lunar coins?

novel sorrel
#

Cheating usually

normal junco
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cheats

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or people who play a ton and refuse to use lunar coins

untold yarrow
#

there's three islands @novel sorrel

novel sorrel
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Guess im a fool

untold yarrow
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two have easter eggs, one has smaller ones, one has the giant, one is empty. you can find each by following the star flag from the starting island

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easy to miss in the darkness of the oblit zone

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but now the we know most of the lore with ror2 out, i wonder if the egg islands are a metaphor for the timeline

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||started with the seeds of life and creation, growing larger as the brothers create more complex things, and then all the work coming to "nothing" with the king of nothing and the brothers deaths||

urban marten
#

just used a Shrine of Order stage 3 with Rex

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got 10 medkits and 5 leeching seed.

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Won, easily.

quartz saffron
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blessed by rng

urban marten
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Also got Dunked on the second loop by yeeting not just one, but TWO dunestriders into a pit

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Didn't even need to go void fields, hung around sky meadow a lot, only two legendaries (hook and frost relic), and nothing stood a chance.

candid vigil
#

Anyone hear about the big content update and dlcs

spring dawn
#

about that. is the stage that is at the moment stadia exclusive also included in that final big free update? or is it counted seperatly

leaden crag
#

do you think Rex's drill needs a buff

elder plover
#

I personally don't mind Rex's drill much

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I find it extremely effective with Tangling Growth

steep bolt
#

rex is bae

obtuse magnet
#

Rex is so much fun

pine iris
#

this chat is much less chaotic than gd1

quartz saffron
#

this channel was salvation during the times when an update was near

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gd1 was pure chaos

pine iris
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hot take, I need tips on how to do incorruptible, I want to 100% le game

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@marble sage hey we got a spammer here, across lots of channels

quartz saffron
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if you want an easy time, play on drizzle with command residentsleeper

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but there's nothing much to say, simply don't pick up any lunar items

pine iris
#

okay but the main problem

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I get killed before I get to stage 20

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I also don't have clovers unlocked so-

quartz saffron
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so what kills you? you don't have enough dmg? mobility? monsters are overwhelming you?

pine iris
#

I actually just get jumpscared by overloading elder lemurians

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now that Shatterspleen exists, I should have an easier time

dense pumice
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Sounds like you need some Ceremonial Daggers so that the game plays itself

pine iris
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@dense pumice Shattering_Justice

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I refuse

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I generally go for a crit-bleed deathmark build with proc chains mixed in, so I should have a good time with shatterspleen

latent cipher
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@pine iris obviously this itself is RNG-dependent, but for a long commando run the jade elephant is a favourite of mine, and if you can manage to find fuel cells that will give you the ability to be aggressive in extremely dangerous situations

pine iris
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....I'm doing drizzle sacrifice swarms command

latent cipher
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that'll do it

chilly nest
#

Any footage on the new map yet?

winter island
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only the little bit we got from the stadia teaser i believe

lunar cedar
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lads? I got 2 more monster logs to get. the two Solus bosses. Any tips how to get the logs quicker ?

fluid notch
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57 leaf clover increases drop chance of logs

lunar cedar
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really 😮

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alright. Time to stack on that

neon dagger
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Unfortunately it's also the only way to increase log drops.

raven lichen
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Yes it rerolls it. Bosses are 3%, regular are 1%. I don't remember if the chance is diminished on swarms.

lunar cedar
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i am rolling with swarms :(((

neon dagger
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Oh right, Swarms works too.

quartz saffron
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the scu shouldn't be too difficult, just stick around long enough on siren's call or sky meadow

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they'll start spawning

lunar cedar
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aye

quartz saffron
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for the awu, well, gl

lunar cedar
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i'll keep dreaming at the newts

raven lichen
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If you reeeeally want to cheese it, sacrifice swarms command. Farm the void fields for aeons. Hit a bazaar, print your greens into red command essence, get as many clovers as you desire. Honestly those ones aren't too awful to get.

lunar cedar
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That's what I am going for rn

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I made up my mind just after I saw tha I gotta clvoer now

raven lichen
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Worship unit is 3% so you can get up to like 58% with 10 clovers or something. I forget exactly

lunar cedar
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oh damn

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ok that won't be too time consuming as I thought

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i'll get to it

dense pumice
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28.47% with 10 clovers

lunar cedar
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ooooook... then I gotta need more clovers then

raven lichen
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Yea mistake, idk why i put 58 haha. 20 clovers is 47%

lunar cedar
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is there a sheet i can check ?

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hmm. Ok i'll go for 20

dense pumice
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Not sure if there's a sheet for it

raven lichen
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Ehhhhh I made one, if you want to make one in google sheets its pretty easy

lunar cedar
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knowing my luck from Darkest Dungeon, 47% is almost always a miss xD

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guess ill keep on looping

raven lichen
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Im on mobile but heres a screenshot. Up to 30 should be sufficient haha

dense pumice
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150 clovers for ~99%

raven lichen
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It gets sloooow up that high. 100 is 95%.

dense pumice
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Yeah

lunar cedar
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oh my

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it's gonna be a bummer

raven lichen
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I forget if naturally spawned solus count as bosses still for logs? I imagine not, in which case it would be the 1% number

dense pumice
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Oh, SCU?

raven lichen
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This is the numbers for normal enemies at 1%

dense pumice
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Yeah 1% is way different

lunar cedar
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Both Solus bosses

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i gotta get

dense pumice
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AWU is definitely 3%

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SCU not sure

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But you get quite a lot of them later on, so you shouldn't have problems with getting that log

lunar cedar
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ill try

raven lichen
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I know normal stage bosses don't count as bosses for AP rounds, but it is fair that once they start spawning you can kill more then one easily

lunar cedar
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i was lucky enough to get mithrix recently. He has a chance to drop the log everytime you, "kill" him

raven lichen
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Yea i actually just got it on a lucky run with clover in the bazaar, printed 10.

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Got the lunar golem but not lunar wisp, sad

lunar cedar
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oh shit

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i need that too i forgot

raven lichen
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Those are a good luck. 1% and not many, and its a whole run to see more hahaha

lunar cedar
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my word...

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Arright imma have to print a shitton of Clovers

raven lichen
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Godspeed, may luck be with you

lunar cedar
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quite literally, I hope so xD

raven lichen
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The best part is giving mithrix a bunch of clovers, but if you get them back early you just get items back every hit haha

lunar cedar
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ayy yeah

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but hopefully ppl with clovers will get the log before that

tired axle
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there also is a small chance for a chimera event on sky meadows

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if you get it, you can farm there

pine iris
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I feel like clovers should increase the chance for family events

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or maybe it's decreased by luck, so stacking Purity is good

tired axle
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that would be fun

pine iris
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yeah

tired axle
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i especially like the purity idea, gives it some more use

pine iris
#

yeah

unreal bloom
#

Ok I don't know if this is the right place to 'adress' this, I never posted anything on this discord before, but I feel like command is actually the worst class rn. Everything this class does is purely mediocre. There is almost nothing special to it gameplay wise.

neon dagger
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Vanilla, yes devs are aware.
All alt is actually pretty fun.

tired axle
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^

dense pumice
#

^

unreal bloom
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I yet need to unlock alt secondary and alt special, nice that devs are aware I didn't know, ty

dense pumice
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GL unlocking them, it's 100% worth it

neon dagger
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To be more precise, they're looking at ways to make Commando more fun and on par with the rest of the newer survivors, but not necessarily outright buffing him.

pine iris
dense pumice
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I heard they were thinking about giving him a cool passive

unreal bloom
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I also don't think just buffing him is really the thing to do. More like a slight rework

tired axle
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yeah, he's a bit bland right now

neon dagger
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The game has moved forward, but Commando has stayed the same, as someone put it.

unreal bloom
#

^

lunar cedar
#

who doesn't have a passive yet?

south stratus
#

coommamdo

pearl hedge
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He does

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candle eating

lunar cedar
#

what is huntress's passive?

tired axle
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doesn't have one

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like most characters actually

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actually scratch that

dull ingot
#

3 is most characters?

tired axle
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i thought things like natural toxine and poison count as passive

raven lichen
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Huntress passive is shoot while sprinting. Isnt commandos double tap or something?

tired axle
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and it thought mul-ts was tied to his r

raven lichen
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Mult gets 2 equipment and swaps with retool

fluid notch
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huntress doesn't have a passive

tired axle
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shoot while sprinting isn't a passive; her attacks are agile

fluid notch
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double tap is commando's primary

dull ingot
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Mult gets 2 equipment and swaps with retool
no, that's his passive; retool allows you to switch between them

raven lichen
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That was her whole gimmick in ror1, so it makes sense to be the same here. Instead of her attacks specifically containing agile, her passive should just say all her attacks are agile

tired axle
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but not all of them are

raven lichen
#

Just R but it affects movement

tired axle
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only her primerys and her alternate utility

raven lichen
#

Secondary doesn't interrupt sprinting does it?

tired axle
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it does

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kinda annoying honestly

raven lichen
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Hmm.

tired axle
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her regular teleport also does for some reason

raven lichen
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Huntress passive is having the lowest hp scaling of the entire cast

dull ingot
#

her basic utility doesn't interrupt sprint

tired axle
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wait it doesn't?

raven lichen
#

It shouldn't..

pine iris
#

it was fixed

tired axle
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yeah, it doesn't

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but why would you make her alternate utility agile then?

dull ingot
#

it was fixed
changed, not fixed

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maybe they just forgot to remove that line

tired axle
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probably

misty shore
#

Console 1.0 is in October right

tired axle
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november i think

modest trout
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It'd be kinda cool if Commando had an alternate primary

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Basically he'd combine his pistols into one ar, which would have faster fire rate, i.e more damage, but a less proc coefficient.

opal plaza
#

I had stupid rng too, I literally instant killed everything but the second I took a step in that fire I died instantly

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I was on my way to the portal too

pine iris
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your fault for stepping in the fire

daring quarry
#

Talking about rng with command on?

opal plaza
#

He landed me right in front of me

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Rng still matters

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I got 3 boss items and multiple reds

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I got the alien head stage one

daring quarry
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Were you tryna master him?

opal plaza
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It more or less turned into that

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I was just trying to do a quick run and it turned out really well

daring quarry
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How can a run go south with command tho?

opal plaza
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Getting only one rarity or stuff like that

#

I was getting a stupid amount if greens

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I needed to build up my tough times so I didnt instantly die

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But kept getting greens

daring quarry
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You defo got lucky that run

opal plaza
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Until the bird

daring quarry
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Doesn’t command get repetitive after a bit tho?

opal plaza
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I tend to switch

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For quick fun runs, command

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Serious runs, nothing

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That and the characters themselves are a big enough difference

daring quarry
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I’m trying to master every character without command

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Only Mul-T and captain left

opal plaza
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I've gotten stupid close before

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I think my best was stage 7 on commando

daring quarry
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Commando took so long for me to master

opal plaza
#

I got no damage items so I was barely making it through the teleporters

daring quarry
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Damage affects speed so I’ll always choose it over healing

opal plaza
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Cant choose without command now can i?

daring quarry
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You can choose from the vending things I mean

opal plaza
#

I think I just kept getting healing or useless items

daring quarry
#

I never use command

opal plaza
#

Speaking of vendors

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I straight up havent seen any in my last 2 runs

zinc kernel
#

people who say you can't go for certain builds without command are just lying

opal plaza
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Been a month or 2 since my last attempts so I cant remember if I saw any during those

zinc kernel
#

there's a lot of things you can use to get your build

daring quarry
#

There are soo many build for each character that you’ll usually get one

terse herald
#

+1, lunars are pretty consistent and if you loop you're bound to get enough multishops or a printer

kind pawn
#

So I have been playing the game for a bit and am losing interest quickly since it seems kinda dull. Is there more to it than just farming NPCs over and over?

tired axle
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you can unlock new stuff, and try out other difficulties

lucid valve
#

id suggest playing with friends makes it 100 times better

tired axle
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^

lucid valve
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yeah monsoon is always fun to try out

silver plover
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enemies are always rising in difficulty, so the point isn't really to "farm" them; it's to survive them. Give a run enough time and they will start to overpower you

kind pawn
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I don't get a kick out of playing Risk Of Rain 2 because it seems to be all about numbers and no skill involved so it does not feel rewarding. You just need to find the right items to boost your attack speed and damage output, apparently.

lucid valve
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yeah what's like recommended time to spend on each stage btw?

silver plover
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on Monsoon it's 5 minutes tops
on lower difficulties it doesn't really matter

lucid valve
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i see

silver plover
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@kind pawn The skill comes from learning and understanding the intricacies of the movesets of playable characters and enemies, as well as understanding how to actually make an item build that works, and how to take full advantage of certain items. Boosting only your damage might get you pretty far on Drizzle, but take that strategy to Monsoon and you'll die pretty quick

lucid valve
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@kind pawn The skill comes from learning and understanding the intricacies of the movesets of playable characters and enemies, as well as understanding how to actually make an item build that works, and how to take full advantage of certain items. Boosting only your damage might get you pretty far on Drizzle, but take that strategy to Monsoon and you'll die pretty quick
@silver plover smart man

silver plover
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Oh, and time management. Because time is your enemy, probably the biggest skill to learn is knowing how much time you can really spare to look for more items. You can't just loot everything on every stage in Monsoon; the timer will outpace you.

craggy garnet
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Any news about the when the next sale is?

silver plover
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no. your best bet is probably one of the major steam sales, like the winter sale

craggy garnet
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Oh that's near. Thanks

warm coyote
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buy it now

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or perish

craggy garnet
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ahhhh i can feel the guilt playing a pirate of this game. I do deserve to perish

leaden crag
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what's a better equipment, woodsprite or foreign fruit

silver jackal
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They work differently - it's really up to you. One is almost passive heal, second - immediate big heal.

granite trench
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Woodsprite is more healing overall but does not burst as well

silver jackal
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I would like to say that it depends on situation and survivor
If you don't take almost any hits - I would prefer to use fruit there

craggy garnet
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I think woodsprite is good for healing if you have war horn. But foreign fruit can get you out of fatal situations

rotund bronze
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woosprite for regen froot for backup

raven lichen
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Foreign fruit is more hps with 2 fuel cells, ive been secretly doing the math lol

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Wait can you target yourself with gnarled? I forget. If you can activate it to get the burst it gets better I think.

wicked condor
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if you don't target anyone with gnarled it automatically heals you iirc

kindred schooner
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Went on theorycrafting run
Scavengers as TP boss
Scavenger fell off, used Dio, and became eternal because fall won't finish him 2nd time
😔

raven lichen
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Wait really??? I had no idea this was an interaction

kindred schooner
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Well, there is one like that so

raven lichen
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That is a very sad time, I wouldn't think the invulnerability would apply to the kill barrier

kindred schooner
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Me neither. That's honestly just an oversight

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Whether it's fixable or not, no idea

raven lichen
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It could also be fixed by making the y height infinite, so if height < ykill. If he didn't die id assume its one number, or a small window.

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Either that or it applies the kill effect once, and should just keep doing it while the entity persists i guess.

candid vigil
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Anybody want to see my best loader run

copper echo
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Well, I just had a really naise run with Commando, unlocking artificer and merc. Ceremonial dagger was my first item, and on a void fields run, half the time enemies just kinda kept death chaining

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I just sorta stood there confused and amused as they poofed

raven lichen
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Yea dagger is crazy in void fields, especially when you get a bunch of directors spawning enemies. If you get even one small enemy like jellyfish, lemurians, beetles, or wisps, its out of control

candid vigil
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Anybody want to see my best loader run

raven lichen
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Sure, if you want to share

mental pike
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who said you need fungus to win as engineer

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only eclipse 1 tho

raven lichen
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Mobile engine very powerful

hoary nacelle
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me and my squad tried out Artefact of Kin last night, honestly while interesting it makes the game kinda dull. Everything just becomes a 5min slog through the same stuff.
A few builds/survivors are amazing, while others are so meh

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but it also borks Void Trials, nothing spawns haha

raven lichen
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Yea kin is best with some other modifiers. A lot of artifacts arent fun on their own though

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Except bombs, bombs is very funny.

hoary nacelle
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yeah, bombs are just brutal

raven lichen
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I like to play with friends and very rarely turn on bombs at the last second after they ready up. When you dont expect them it is a good time

proud plume
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I use artifact of kin if I wanna unlock skins on monsoon and it isn't going my way

hoary nacelle
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pick up drowned meteors as well just to be that guy

proud plume
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Reset stage 1 until you get beetles, get items that play the game for you, afk for an hour

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Other than that kin is pretty lame

hoary nacelle
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yeah, getting any type of beetle as artificer is just GG

raven lichen
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Nah you open lunar pods with 3 fuel cells, blow all the cooldowns on the meteor you just got and switch back to let them wonder who actually did it haha

hoary nacelle
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oh I can fly and nothing will ever hit me

proud plume
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Would be cool if there was an artifact that spawned only bosses

raven lichen
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Their health scaling is so high early. Honestly though it wouldn't be bad. Bosses are expensive, slow, and telegraphed. You just slightly kite until you kill 2 or 3 and loot the whole stage

eternal parrot
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Dang nerds playing a game.

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Also, an artifact for only bosses would probably make MAAO nearly impossible

limpid briar
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No, it won't.
It'll make MAAO far easier.

trail cloud
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mmmm magma worms on stage 2

junior pumice
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Guys I swear, i can't get past eclipse 1. Bad RNG all around

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Just lost a run in stage 5 hell with 4 legends in the tunnel with like 15 glacial brass contraptions

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That's a mess of a sentence right there now that I look at it...

proud plume
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What do you mean 4 legends in the tunnel?

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I know the area youre referring to

steel zephyr
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Can you clear mithrix on monsoon? Then do that with -50% hp at the start every stage lol

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That’s eclipse 1

proud plume
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Can't have fun with that

long bison
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Hopoo plays melee Acrid

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i am proud

warm coyote
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hopoo is based

candid vigil
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Hi duck

true yoke
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melee acrid is fun with enough attack speed

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its like watching your character go crazy lmao

candid vigil
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Want to know see my best loader run

worldly perch
leaden crag
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mele acrid is so much more fun then ranged

zinc kernel
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ye

true yoke
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angrily tears into bosses

gusty gale
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Is Blight better for melee acrid?

humble sail
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I love his bite, but it just feels so bad when you get swarmed with wisps or get vagrants or something

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Also imo blight is only useful in the first loop or so, and even then only if you don't get something like mountain shrines. I love the idea of stacking it, but it just feels like so much less damage after a certain point. The upside of killing things doesn't feel good enough to justify it to me.

leaden crag
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blight is better for mele, poisen is better for range

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honestly if your going mele go all alt abilities, if you go ranged go all normal abilities

merry knot
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Acrid deserves an alternate R ability for melee, but i find pandemic to be good enough as it is. I know other people dont like it though for some reason

polar anvil
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Acrid deserves an alternate R ability for melee, but i find pandemic to be good enough as it is. I know other people dont like it though for some reason
@merry knot he'll get it one day

gray hill
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Wow mod Goku is good

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Mithrix better watch himself

novel sorrel
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@polar anvil do you think acrid has more surviveability than loader’s m1 shields with his healing passive?

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Ive been thinking about it for a while but i cant come to a conclusion cuz i dont play acrid that often

pearl hedge
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Melee acrid has shit survivability

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Compared to loader at least

dull ingot
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On monsoon the healing is halved making it slightly worse than loaders shield imo

finite swallow
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?? what

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do you mean eclipse?

dull ingot
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Acrid's healing is considered health regen, which is halved in monsoon

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Further halved in eclipse

finite swallow
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ah

dull ingot
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Ya learn somethin new every day

finite swallow
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i thought monsoon health regen was base

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didnt know it affected knurl and slug and stuff

dull ingot
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5% compared to 10% healing is noticable

finite swallow
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holy shit fresh meat is fuckin worthless

polar anvil
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@polar anvil do you think acrid has more surviveability than loader’s m1 shields with his healing passive?
@novel sorrel idk I don't play loader plus loader basically never uses m1

dull ingot
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I beat ror 1 with loader

drifting holly
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what if somebody had 1000 tougher times

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how close to 100% of dodge chance that would be

novel sorrel
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99.34% @drifting holly

drifting holly
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mmmm

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thats basically invurnability

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im gonna try to go for 2000

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and just let pc run to see how long till i get killed

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altho i dont wana imagine mithrix with 2000 tougher times

leaden crag
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I'm pretty sure he can't use them

drifting holly
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it would be hellish if he could

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over 99.4% dodge chance

polar anvil
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@dull ingot @timber vine posted this gif everywhere

drifting holly
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question

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does rejuvenation rack basically double effectivness of medkit?

polar anvil
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Yes

drifting holly
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and every rejuvenation rack after as well?

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or like 1 medkit 10 hp with rej rack 20 with 2 rej rack 30

polar anvil
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Rack is +100%

drifting holly
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so with 2 racks and 1 medkit is that 30 or 40 heal?

polar anvil
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10,20,30,40 and so on with each rack starting at 0 racks

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Btw rack+bloom is 8x heal because it doubles input and output

drifting holly
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aight fair , im trying to basically reach that point where you can just leave pc with run still running and not die

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basically if you even get hit , with less then 1% chance

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you would do razorwire burst , that would heal you with crits + medkits

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and ofc aegis and reju racks

tranquil ridgeBOT
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dynoSuccess BigA_7#3211 was banned

dull ingot
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@polar anvil ❤️

drifting holly
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would it basically lead to borderline infinite run?

polar anvil
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Unless a malachite hits you

cobalt turtle
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^ mala are the main reasion the game does not turn into a chill fest 30 mins in

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Also ima post a hot take:

drifting holly
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a;thp

cobalt turtle
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WakeOfVultures isnt that bad sometimes

polar anvil
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Hot take: a;thp

drifting holly
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altho , malachite hits are still affected by tougher times , also i am captain so i can basically have enough atk speed to destroy those traps

polar anvil
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Also how is it hot i completely agree

cobalt turtle
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I noticed it is really good at procking DeathSkull_anim

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as nearly every elelite has a debuff that adds to it, and wake stacks the aspects

leaden crag
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yea but they're only really a problem when there are enemies that are hard to dodge, like Templars or probes

drifting holly
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dont forget im talking about 2000 tougher times

cobalt turtle
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Or you just brainfart and run into a spike by acident

drifting holly
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even with templars and probes its less then 1% chance of their whole attack its gonna hit

leaden crag
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the chance of them hitting you is tiny lol

drifting holly
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and spikes get destroyed by 20 syringes defensive microbots

cobalt turtle
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God I love captin

drifting holly
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meh lemme make it 30 just in case

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for now im getting lagspikes every time im hit at all

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and everything just dies from insane amount of razorwires

leaden crag
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I used shrine of order once after a 20 stage swarms sacrifice command run and had over 1k crowbars

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also had like 30 microbots lol

drifting holly
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every time i get hit i just heal all back from how good razorwire + 3 reju racks + 20 scythes is

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im constantly just picking up items at this point

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200 tougher times archived

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1800 to go

cobalt turtle
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Question: is it better to rush monsson tp with no items lv 1 or is it better to grab a few items first?

drifting holly
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id say get like 2 items or so then go tp

polar anvil
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Get some items first

drifting holly
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some bosses can be annoying to deal with early

cobalt turtle
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My freinds disagree with you and call you unskilled

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(this happene to me)

drifting holly
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specially if you get swarmed by wisps

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idk about him but i learned the hard way rushing naked tp can be wrong move at times

cobalt turtle
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Two of my freinds play loader/rex and just rush tp

quartz saffron
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some chars can handle the bosses without items

polar anvil
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Apparently being tactical is un-HAHAHAHAHAHA
Two of most poweful survivors and they call others unskilled

drifting holly
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rex rushing tp doe lmao

cobalt turtle
#

I just get salty because it makes my hacking becons pointless

drifting holly
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hacking beacon is bae

quartz saffron
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find new friends then

polar anvil
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Loader is op and rex is a murder machine with innate healing

drifting holly
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even on sacrifice

cobalt turtle
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@polar anvil I do play capt but they push the button the moment they find it (instantly because they are both good loaders)

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so my hacking becons are usesless :^)

polar anvil
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Can i give a suggestion

cobalt turtle
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I am of the opion capt can do the boss with nothing if needed, but I just want 20 seconds to use my damn r ;-;

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and sure

polar anvil
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Get new friends

drifting holly
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also , woodland sprite heals max%hp right?

polar anvil
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Yes

drifting holly
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so with enough of rejuvenation racks it could heal 100%?

cobalt turtle
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I tell one "Bruh you play rex no crap you can do tp easy" and he tells me capt is more busted than rex

polar anvil
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Yes

leaden crag
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that's a terrible suggestion, as you don't know his friends

cobalt turtle
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and like, yea hes strong

But rex is bonkers

polar anvil
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Rex has all the tools to go itemless and others don't

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Well,except loader

leaden crag
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as far as you know they're just a bit over competitive

cobalt turtle
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one mains rex the other loader

drifting holly
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so woodsprite is 1.5 max hp

cobalt turtle
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Also ngl I have zero idea how to play loader

polar anvil
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Yeah they can do tp itemless but eek not letting others loot

drifting holly
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60 rejuvenation racks and wood sprite is 90% max hp per second

cobalt turtle
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I think im the one person in the comunity that thinks shes unfun

polar anvil
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Wrong, me too

drifting holly
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i dislike loader as well

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mercenary ftw

leaden crag
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stay far away, grapple to boss, punch, repeat

cobalt turtle
#

I know but like: I still suck ;-;

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I see my freind near oneshot and im just like "HOW????"

polar anvil
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Loader magic

leaden crag
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you just need to get a feel for the momentum

cobalt turtle
#

on the flip

leaden crag
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the faster you go the harder you hit

cobalt turtle
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im the best merc

polar anvil
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Then I'll shame you for using iframes

cobalt turtle
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(in our group)

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Capt/Arti/Merc main I am I think now

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2/3 immoble af

drifting holly
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264 tougher times

cobalt turtle
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merc stole my mobilty

polar anvil
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Acrid/cap main
Maybe cap

drifting holly
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wish i could actually pick up stuff faster

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acrid/merc main here

quartz saffron
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I main Metamorphosis

leaden crag
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lol

cobalt turtle
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I am trying to figgure out my pref arti load out

polar anvil
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That implies you main loader which implies i can shame you

cobalt turtle
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I think ion/ice m2 is the best later game

dull elm
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Metamorphosis is the best survivor

drifting holly
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i kinda cannot play loader and artificer at all

polar anvil
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Spear is nice but bomb is fat damage

cobalt turtle
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but early on wisps make you cry

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I cant use bomb

polar anvil
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Just aim smh

cobalt turtle
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ever since they changed it I just cant

leaden crag
#

acrid loader main

quartz saffron
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aim higher

drifting holly
#

help items are starting to make my screen lag

cobalt turtle
#

Also I pref ice consistantcy

polar anvil
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Everyone mains acrid

dull elm
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I use ion/ice spear on arti as well, cleared few eclipses with that

cobalt turtle
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Bomb sometimes knocks things out of crowbar range

leaden crag
#

always airborne arti is really fun

drifting holly
cobalt turtle
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with the sparks

drifting holly
cobalt turtle
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my issue with ion is the lack of flame thrower early

dull elm
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and early wisps are pain, ion helps with that

cobalt turtle
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My freind prefs bomb

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I pref spear

polar anvil
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Surge+stompers
Become mario

leaden crag
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I use ion and bomb

dull elm
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I used to take bomb until the last update when they buffed it