gd2-nullified

[winged briar]

both eviscerate and blinding assault have iframes

where you can only be hurt by debuffs

[gritty arrow]

but its only for like <1 second

[errant yew]

i feel like i need to drop merc as my main since he really hasnt been doing it for me after the update. i know the whole idea is for him to be high skill high reward but i havent really felt the reward nearly as much as before. plus i dont want to play eviscerate and vision since he no longer is melee which defeats the point

[winged briar]

@gritty arrow yeah it’s eviscerate that’s miles more reliable for iframes, visions is still probably your best bet for not getting destroyed (don’t take my word as the Ultimate Truth tho, i’ve only beat the game with commando and acrid so far)

[gritty arrow]

hmm ok ok

[finite swallow]

idk man, eclipse 8 on merc was really not that bad.

[gritty arrow]

cuz i really can't see me beating him with merc cuz i'll just get swunged by that fuckin hammer

[finite swallow]

you shouldnt take visions, you really want expose

if you manage your combo well, you should usually have an ability up

[gritty arrow]

on phase 4 i can see me beating him but his phase 1 and 3

hmm ok i'll try my best then

[winged briar]

only somewhat related but phase 3 is a bitch on every character tbh

[finite swallow]

even without fall damage cheesing him, you can do fine, its just to maximize proccing expose

[errant yew]

i dont want lunars. i want the old reliable pre 1.0 merc where i only need 2 braincells to play him

[gritty arrow]

chicken what phase 3 are you talking about? him sucking items or him getting more powerful and moveset?

[winged briar]

the one after the chimeras

[gritty arrow]

ah ok

the more powerful and moveset

[winged briar]

phase 4 he’s a pushover, phase 3 is the ultimate run-ender for me

[finite swallow]

for me phase 2 is usually worse

[winged briar]

phase 2 you can just hide behind pillars to not have the entire us military firing upon you at once

[finite swallow]

yea, its worse cause you have to do that shit

[winged briar]

ahh

it goes by fast if you got lucky lmao

that’s one of the things i don’t like about the fight

phase 2 is the easiest with good items and the hardest without and sometimes you have absolutely no say in how much the game will screw you over

[errant yew]

phase 2 is ok as long as you play it very carefully when you have bad dps

[winged briar]

it’s honestly just painful to the soul when you have bad dps

[errant yew]

yep. specially when your merc

[winged briar]

having reliable bleed stacking is amazing for phase 2, which is why commando is one of my only 2 survivors i’ve beat the game with

shreds through adds like nothing else

[errant yew]

just having 2 daggers on mando can make the difference from a bad run to ok

[finite swallow]

tbh bands are enough if you play it well enough and you can proc them for mithrix

[errant yew]

unless youre playing commando

[winged briar]

i only find more than 1 band on characters that can’t reliably proc it lmao

[errant yew]

for commando im fine missing out on bands since i find that suppressive fire is really good for stacking bleeds when you have daggers

[winged briar]

yeah daggers aren’t too hard to come by either

[gritty arrow]

til the time comes daggers are turned to green items XD

[winged briar]

5 chronobaubles 😎

chrono is actually ok now, not because it got any buff but because mithrix is speed

[lost vector]

As game-breaking as the idea might be, I think it would have been absolutely awesome if you could summon Aurelionite to aid you during the final boss if you have Halcyon Seed. It'd be pretty damn fitting too, given the lore.

[winged briar]

lmao that would be badass

[gritty arrow]

played rex and had chronobauble

he aint even movin XD

[lost vector]

Maybe like it could be some kind of sequence where Aurelionite faces off against him but gets destroyed in the end? But it gives players a small window where they can damage the final boss in safety while he's distracted with him

[winged briar]

aurelionite, a brave soldier

[gritty arrow]

thats more of an animation idea if you ask me XD

[dry spire]

@spring onyx
#test-branch-feedback message
I know this was a while ago but just wanted to let you know that the elite aspects were in the game at the start of public beta, with the celestian and Malikite (however you spell it) were added or at least droppable when their respective elites were added

[muted spade]

malachite*

[brisk quiver]

How do I maximize my chances of getting mountain shrines?

[warm coyote]

you dont

[tired axle]

sacrifice and multiplayer increase the chance of them spawning

[warm coyote]

nvm

[tired axle]

lol

[brisk quiver]

Ah shit

Thanks anyways

[warm coyote]

they also cant spawn on stage 3

[brisk quiver]

Any stage 3?

[round lintel]

Pretty spicy first captain obliteration. 'Mand portal Bulwarks Ambry gave me the Capacitor and Gesture, and we know how that goes.

[gritty arrow]

is grabbing 1 defiant gouge worth it? or will it just be a hassle

[round lintel]

depends really on how your run is going, if youre trying to go as long as you can then hell no

like loop 1 tho it can save you a ton of time

[broken ginkgo]

Early-mid game most important part of the run, when it comes to the late game, well you just killing everything in the blink of the eye

So gourge is beautiful

[gritty arrow]

den ill take it as worth it

[broken ginkgo]

I remember when my friend heard it’s sound for the first time, he had same jumpscare as he firstly heard of malachite spawn

[gritty arrow]

XD

the defiant gouge makes a sound? didnt know that

[broken ginkgo]

It does

And it’s a pleasure for my hears

[radiant ingot]

does AP ammo work against bosses that are just elites?

[outer swallow]

"This item only affects bosses spawned by the teleporter, signified by their red health bar. It does not give you a damage bonus against bosses that spawn outside of teleporter activations in the late game (with the exception of the Alloy Worship Unit), however it will still increase your damage against Hordes of Many." Fandom wiki

[tired axle]

also affects mithrix and doppelgänger btw

[hallow fractal]

i wonder if it affects players when mith and dopple use them against you

[tired axle]

it doesn't

[thorny schooner]

just had a spicy command run with infinite tonic without the stat reduce

[tired axle]

nice

focused convergence only stacks up to 3 times btw

[thorny schooner]

102 fungus is kinda op ngl

yea i know just kinda had to spend lunar coins on something and i already had 420 charges of Hungering gaze

[tired axle]

nice

[thorny schooner]

this was by far my best command run in months

[tired axle]

i most of the time just go for mercurial rachis when i don't know what to stack anymore

or transcendence to get a shit ton of hp

[thorny schooner]

i completely forgot that they existed

[tired axle]

actually managed to get over 100,000 hp in one run

[thorny schooner]

nice

[thorny schooner]

the only reason i kept on going to the lunar bazar was to check my dps

thats lit

[tired axle]

missile drone is the best character don't @ me

did discord just send that twice?

[thorny schooner]

yup

[tired axle]

i think my internet is breaking rn

[thorny schooner]

thats how strong missile drone is

it breaks your internet

[tired axle]

lmao

[thorny schooner]

hands down most OP character

[tired axle]

i'm probably gonna do another run as missile drone, just to get screenshots of the other elite aspects

[tired axle]

help

[placid turret]

[radiant ingot]

aight someone explain it to me like im 5 pls because im dumb

but what is the difference between malachite and celestine enemies?

i always mix them up and dont fully understand what they do

[somber valley]

Malachite disables healing on hit and spawns spikes periodically, Celestine slows down on hit and makes nearby enemies other than the Celestine invisible

[radiant ingot]

do both of them deal massive damage? because i got hit by a green wisp and got a chunk of health deleted

lesser wisp*

[somber valley]

Yes, they're tier 2 elites and are stronger than Blazing/Overloading/Glacial

[radiant ingot]

apart from their abilities, their damage and health are about the same?

the wiki isn't very precise about things like these

[somber valley]

Yes

[radiant ingot]

aight thanks

i figured it's probably a good idea to stock up on some information because i got my shit busted by 3 celestine beetles

was tryna shoot them off the cliff in siren's call with captain but backed up in 3 of them which then just deleted me instantly

[somber valley]

Was anything about the future of the game revealed on the stream yesterday?

[dull ingot]

the stream’s today

[somber valley]

Ah, thanks

[tidal reef]

was anything revealed on the stream today

[dull ingot]

which stream?

[visual dock]

Which Character is the strongest with Command artifact on ?

[tired axle]

missile drone

[fervent barn]

Every character with command artifact is absolutely broken

There are so many item/equipment synergies you can cheese with

[quasi lake]

Atg and syringes on commando

I have 55 atg missiles and 140+ syringes and shred everything in 1 to 2 hits

[novel sorrel]

The stream is in 35 minutes @tidal reef

[serene ermine]

stream's in 35 and will probably be another half hour before they actually show anything ror related

[tidal reef]

I had a timezones mistake >.<

[upbeat gorge]

14 minutes

hype

[dull ingot]

anyone got like, a link to where the stream is

or is it just twitch

[old ledge]

https://www.twitch.tv/pax

here should be it

[sweet tulip]

Rough announcement

[pearl fulcrum]

[tiny palm]

Has anyone been having some fps loss lately? Ever since like a week ago the game went from completly normal playing mid-high settings to almost unplayable

[sweet tulip]

I like how they thanked the early access people, then they announce stadia exclusive content

[upbeat gorge]

Oof ok, this is... Weird to say the least.
One more content update:
Amazing, can't wait.
Paid expansions:
I am down for this, I will gladly pay for more content for this game.
Stadia and the new stage:
Yikes... This hurts.

[analog lintel]

stadia is a hard yikes from me

[pine ruin]

Ok come on.

Stadia exclusive content. bro. no one likes stadia.

its a big fuck you. we all played your early acsess game, but now gotta pay 10$ a month

[wind hedge]

For playing with mods in multiplayer, does just the host need the mods or dooes everybody?

[analog lintel]

you dont have to

the dlc is fine

[upbeat gorge]

Micro dlc? They are saying that these will be much bigger than their updates

[analog lintel]

yeah they said specifically that theyre going to be large in scale

[pine ruin]

ah wait, missed that part

sorry

[dense pumice]

Also raises questions about if people with DLCs will be able to play with people without DLCs

[rich warren]

timed or not, exclusivity is still absolutely garbage and an incredibly scummy move, especially on a piece of absolute garbage DoA system

[pine ruin]

Excusitvity Bad

I do not support exclusivity. if they continue to do this I will not support them going further

[hallow raven]

no console news was EXTREMELY disappointing

[analog lintel]

they said early on in devthoughts that "as long as people will continue to pay to support development, we'll continue to create content post release" or something like that

[upbeat gorge]

Stadia bad exclusive bad.
Please just Release update on console and give us more content.
Love you hopoo but please don't take this route

[glossy bronze]

I really wanted 1.0 for console

[pine ruin]

for risk of rain 3 its gonna be epic exclusive

[rich warren]

i'm already not supporting them further this is bullshit

[analog lintel]

and you dont need to either

[upbeat gorge]

That's too extreme imo, but I see why and it's fine. Go for it

[pine ruin]

@dense pumice has a good point

Also raises questions about if people with DLCs will be able to play with people without DLCs

if its content dlc, some people will not have it

[upbeat gorge]

Eh, we'll see

I'm excited for dlc either way, def a buy for me. But please hopoo don't get gearboxed like this

[pine ruin]

@upbeat gorgemy steam library is worth $3,700. I do not want to switch to stadia or Epic games, and if they force me too I will not support them further

[upbeat gorge]

And that's fine! I totally understand it

[strong vine]

I will buy any dlc they release, but I feel like the stadia timed exclusive is a slap in the face for people who've been with the game since day 1

[pine ruin]

@strong vine 100%

[silver plover]

god, #gd1-nullified is a fucking dumpster fire now

[pine ruin]

Ye. all the reasonable people came here

[upbeat gorge]

It always is

[granite trench]

Are people mad here too

[upbeat gorge]

We are not mad, just disappointed

[silver plover]

i mean i do think the stadia map thing is a bit scummy but people getting their panties in a twist over DLC have no idea what they're talking about

[strong vine]

IDC about dlc's as long as they aren't predatory. I'm just let down about the timed map

[pine ruin]

(also its worth noting that I DID NOT spend nearly 4k on steam. love you humble ❤️)

@strong vine same

[upbeat gorge]

But yeah I'm fine and excited for the future, but I'm cautious

[strong vine]

imagine if it's like a 6month timed exclusive.

[rich warren]

i would be fine with DLCs under most circumstances, but now i'm not giving Hopoo any more money after that stadia horseshit

[strong vine]

I would really be let down

[silver plover]

the fuck you mean, the stage is a timed exclusive

[rich warren]

yeah

and?

[silver plover]

you're gonna get it sooner or later, it's not like they deleted the fucking game off of steam

[pine ruin]

@rich warren This is there one and only chance. if they do this shit again its done for me

[rich warren]

an exclusive is an exclusive, how long it lasts doesn't change how scummy it is

[unborn cedar]

so updates being on PC first is scummy because it is exclusive?

[pine ruin]

I agree. hoping its a mistake and a one off thing... because I trusted hoppo, but if this continues, I am done

[mellow pike]

I honestly don’t think it was hopoo’s decision, it was probably gearbox

[silver plover]

I just have no idea how the DLCs and the Stadia thing are related to eachother in the slightest
you don't have to buy the stadia version

[rich warren]

updates being PC first isn't scummy, it's just how development works

[silver plover]

it sucks, yes, but why is one (1) stage stopping you from buying DLC
on the grand scheme of things one stage is barely any content at all

[junior pumice]

Anyone else feel like merc's alternate special is the hardest ability to unlock in the game?

[fossil charm]

yeah ethereal is annoying as fuck to unlock

esp on console bc artifacts dont change so you cant get glass

[junior pumice]

Oh that's rough

[rich warren]

next we know they're going to add in purchasable lunar coins

[pine ruin]

@silver plover its the excusivity thats the issue, and not wanting to support it. this is there one and only chance. if they do it again I am out

[bronze vigil]

wheres my stadia bois at?

[pine ruin]

not here

[mighty sierra]

hey i wanted to clerify, the time is limited for sundered grove as an exclusive ye? (I dont want to come off as mad)

[ashen chasm]

not too happy about the stadia exclusive hope it comes to everyone else

[junior pumice]

Today's seed is pretty good, glass, good items, etc. But there are only elite lemurians

[pine ruin]

@mighty sierra ye

[silver plover]

@pine ruin You aren't supporting Stadia exclusivity by buying the DLC on Steam wtfdym

[radiant flare]

ok but moving away from the stadia part

[mighty sierra]

oh ok

ill be waiting cant wait

[radiant flare]

the stage looks like Wetland Aspect but worse so honestly don't care much lmao

[dull ingot]

Man i love risk of rain 2

[junior pumice]

Oh yeah, great game

[fossil charm]

@dull ingot on pc different prismatic trial seeds change the artifacts you play with, on console its always just chaos, command, sacrifice, and soul no matter the seed

[pine ruin]

@silver plover I am showing them I will not support them by giving them money if they lock content behind exclusivity

[mighty sierra]

the new stage has more hints of blues and purples

Im having a more alien feel from this stage

[junior pumice]

Yikes, those are really bad artifacts

[fossil charm]

yeah it sucks

[junior pumice]

Aside form sac and command

[bronze vigil]

ive never met a man who has stadia

and id never trust a man with stadia

[next flicker]

Stadia is a stillborn.

[ripe surge]

ok but why not just say the exclusivity window

[glossy bronze]

Man I am so disapointed I really though It was 1.0 for console

[ripe surge]

the us has terrible internet infrastructure though. it will suck here until that is fixed

[radiant ingot]

big surprise, huntress is pretty fun
what was also really fun is touching 3 mountain shrines on meadow and fighting 3 overloading worms

[glossy bronze]

well I like the game way too much to be mad

[junior pumice]

So if I get barrier on merc and take damage, does that count as falling below 100% health?

[fossil charm]

it doesnt

[junior pumice]

Wow

I got cheated then

2 seeds ago, I got topaz and got through entirely with taking 2 fall damage points through barrier.

[radiant ingot]

transcendence

[fossil charm]

shields do count as max hp so that wouldnt work

[junior pumice]

Ech I hate transcendence

But yeah, shields count as max health

Always has

Yeah, but that's just HP + shield / HP

Really sucks

[quick bridge]

Transcendence on Rex is bad. Change my mind

[junior pumice]

It really should work like that

[pine ruin]

I encorage you to add this disclamer to your review

please note: hoppo games has signed on to a exclusivity deal with google, and currently one map is only accessible via google stadia. the date the map comes to steam is unknown

[fossil charm]

yeah its terrible on rex

unless you use alt secondary for whatever reason

[quick bridge]

You will perish

[junior pumice]

It's great if you plan on ending your run and wasting 2 lunar coins at a bazaar

[pine ruin]

that is the worst meme I have ever seen

@dull ingot yes. one map will be exclusive to stadia

[fossil charm]

timed exclusive but we dont know the timeframe yet

[next flicker]

timed exclusive yes.

[junior pumice]

I have never heard of stadia

[next flicker]

What a great news for the whole 10 people playing on Stadia tho.

[tired juniper]

huh...new stage is a stage 4 not 5...

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot are you joking?

[junior pumice]

New legendary stage?

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot no one plays stadia

[tired juniper]

it'll have a legendary chest

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot 1 year is still a timed exclusivity

[junior pumice]

Well, all the better to play captain with

[rich warren]

why is your first reaction to someone saying something you disagree with to spout memes about reddit and call them an incel

very interesting

[tired juniper]

wonder if we'll get an alternate stage 5

[pine ruin]

Oh boy found the google employee!

[junior pumice]

Ah, he's sponsored!

[old ledge]

i don't judge sven. people have done worse for a living in this economy.

[tired juniper]

i hope we get more alternate stages for 1, 2, 3, and 5

[junior pumice]

So how does one get those character roles? I'm intrigued

[dense pumice]

#role-assignment @junior pumice

[junior pumice]

Thanks

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot When I buy a game on steam I own the fucking game, get to play with a gient community, have mod support, and use features stadia doens not have

[dull ingot]

Yikes, #gd1-nullified is doin pretty bad

[pine ruin]

steam is not a drm

[junior pumice]

Oh no, he's biased

[polar anvil]

What's going on here...

[pine ruin]

I have a steamworks account. steam CAN be used as a drm, but is not enherently one

[leaden crag]

a war

[polar anvil]

Hey you all maybe you move from game discussion if it isn't about ror2

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot again. steam can not revoke games that are downloaded.

[tired juniper]

someone seems a wee bit biased

just a tad

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot Again. that is a licence to download the software, not to use it

[junior pumice]

Dare I say, perhaps toxic?

[polar anvil]

Sigh.

[tired juniper]

yes, hydrogen 2

[polar anvil]

@crude delta could you please guide these people to correct chat

[raven burrow]

🧍

[tired juniper]

dragging in steam users when it's just one person

[thick flax]

So your argument for stadia is that steam isn't much better than it? Kinda weak

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot OMG. I have a steamworks account and have used the software.
Steam CAN be used as a DRM, but is not enherently one

[junior pumice]

What if I just prefer steam and my own hardware?

[thick coral]

i cant believe the internet has existed for multiple decades and people get baited so easily still

[pine ruin]

<@&559786374228738069>

[tired juniper]

this just sounds like a fake account at this point

[junior pumice]

Uh

[raven burrow]

guys need to chill

[forest crag]

?

[silver plover]

sven bein an ass

[dull ingot]

[pine ruin]

@forest cragsomeone is calling people incels

[polar anvil]

A team ping wasn't so necessary we could ping one or two

[tired juniper]

sad only one? :c

[thick coral]

there's paid dlc upcoming though, which is neat since it should mean more content than otherwise

[pine ruin]

@viscid karma Again. Stadia features

• Lag
• Rebuying games
• Paywall for some features.
• Playing on any device (note geforce, and shadow play can do this)
  Steam Features
• Powerful community tools
• Mod support
• Offline acsess.

[dense pumice]

Only one more free content pack, then more big paid packs @tired juniper

[tired juniper]

oh derp i should finish reading

[forest crag]

ok

[marble sage]

!mute 636972391855161384 3d

[tranquil ridge]

Sven#0330 was banned

I can't find user 636972391855161384.

[next flicker]

stop feeding the /v/ sperg.

[marble sage]

welp

[raven burrow]

Oh.

[polar anvil]

Thanks

[tired juniper]

lol did he leave before he got banned

[forest crag]

ye

[pine ruin]

Thank you

[tired juniper]

thank

[marble sage]

just a troll

[junior pumice]

Holy balls, man got obliterated

[tired juniper]

did he get his lunar coins tho

[polar anvil]

No

[tired juniper]

he died to twiptwip pog

[junior pumice]

Nah, he got a net loss of like 10

[polar anvil]

I took them

[dull ingot]

Oh

[pine ruin]

Sevn obliterated himself at the obelisk of the moderators and my ping

[raven burrow]

Imagine having input delay cant be me

[dull ingot]

Looks like I missed someone getting banned

[junior pumice]

Didn't miss much

Just some toxic guy ranting on how stadia is better than steam

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot just a troll calling people names I should not repeat for fear of reaching his same end

[dull ingot]

Lmao

[patent pumice]

dont drag the arguments of GD1 into here.

[tired juniper]

idek what he called deuterium is and i'm 21

kek

[junior pumice]

I don't entirely know either, but I think it was an insult

[tired juniper]

iderk what stadia is either

[junior pumice]

Ah, I see. It was something entirely unrelated to the conversation/argument at hand

[tired juniper]

i figured

[thick coral]

stadia is just a game streaming service by google that's not very popular

a few people are upset because there's a timed exclusive stage for the stadia port, but other than that, i don't think anyone cares about the stadia port

[junior pumice]

Yeah pretty much

[tired juniper]

and is it available for pc and mobile devices both?

[polar anvil]

Can we keep this chat to ror2 please

[patent pumice]

acrid they're talkin about ror2 stuff

[junior pumice]

Alright, whirlwind or rising thunder?

[tired juniper]

idrc about timed excllusivity for sundered groves

[pine ruin]

Anyway, again, its worth mentioning.

steam can terminate your licence to download software, any site can do that.
steam provides a very basic DRM layer that can easly be cracked, THAT DEVS CAN CHOSE TO USE and a revoked license will enable the DRM layer if again, it is included. it will not remove the game from your system

[junior pumice]

I'm torn

[tired juniper]

i like rising thunder because i can yeet lesser wisps into ceilings

[junior pumice]

This is a good point

[polar anvil]

Alright, whirlwind or rising thunder?
@junior pumice whirl if you want procs,rising if you want damage

[junior pumice]

Makes sense

What's whirwinds proc coefficient?

[tired juniper]

i just hope we get alternate stages 1, 2, 3, and 5 at some point

[polar anvil]

1 coef

[tired juniper]

both hits?

[thick coral]

the big problem with stadia is internet lag = lag to the game being rendered to the screen

[polar anvil]

Yes

[junior pumice]

Oh, very nice

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot but, its worth mentioning that again, even thou GOG is DRM free, they can terminate your licence to download your bought games, as it is a internet service. this issue is not exlusive to steam

[thick coral]

it's a neat idea on paper, but seems to be being better executed by microsoft's xcloud streaming service

[pine ruin]

@thick coral its best executed by geforce now, because you get all of your already bought games on epic, steam, uplay, ect.

[junior pumice]

Before 1.0, didn't merc have a tool icon next to his utility?

[pine ruin]

also, stadia is way more likely to terminate service

because it is generally consitered a failure

[muted spade]

remember that not all of the wrench icons in the loadout tab are skills that made it in to the game

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot there is a free and paid tier, the paid tier adds features.
Its worth noting that you still need to buy the games on stadia, regradless of your subcription

[thick flax]

There is supposed to be a free tier though i don't know if they released that yet

[tired juniper]

tool icon meant they were a work in progress

[muted spade]

don't forget the shitty ass input lag the stadia had

[polar anvil]

@junior pumice they all got removed for unknown reasons but the update was rushed so i assume they will appear someday

[muted spade]

you press W and it takes 6 whole seconds to move forward

[junior pumice]

Dang, I was really excited for an alternate utility

[sweet tulip]

Its pretty much time exclusive for stadia, the dev update said how they wanna release the map as fast as possible

[pine ruin]

Stadia is not like game pass.
its like steam where you need to buy all your games, but with a subscription for all the features

[burnt tulip]

Imagine stadia past first loop with all the atgs and daggers flying everywhere. You’re gonna be able to count pixels

[leaden crag]

they ran out of time, not money

[pine ruin]

@dull ingot worth noting that time = money

[leaden crag]

did you read the dev thoughts

read it

[silver plover]

the roadmap and (probably) gearbox pressured them to release updates within a timeframe

[leaden crag]

it's short

[sweet tulip]

@dull ingot just read the dev thoughts on steam

[tired juniper]

wonder if people w/o expansions will be able to play with friends who have the expansion are are hosting

[sweet tulip]

It addresses pretty much what u r talking about

[junior pumice]

Holy balls, I'm only now trying double rebar on Mul-T

[sweet tulip]

Does gearbox publisher have a history of not paying the indie devs?

[pine ruin]

Devolver Digital is a good publisher. my bud worked with them a bit on his game.

[thick flax]

@junior pumice It's amazing but my poor index finger

[leaden crag]

wow someone is actually trying to to get this channel back on track

[thick coral]

to my knowledge, having a publisher really helps for porting the game to consoles

[polar anvil]

@thick flax what's wrong with it

[tired juniper]

spamming retool lol

[polar anvil]

You can just hold it down

[junior pumice]

I have years of practice for this very moment

Doom has trained me well

[tired juniper]

even holding it gets tired

[polar anvil]

Put a brick

[burnt tulip]

Idk why they decided to use a publisher instead of self publishing, I can’t imagine the advantages are worth getting bent over by randy

[tired juniper]

normal bricks are gonna hold down several keys simultaneously

[pine ruin]

A publisher is like a investment. they invest in you, provide you with money.

they also get your game ported, advertise it, and have people review it... they have contacts

[sweet tulip]

How does getting a publisher give them more money? Doesnt some of the money go to the publisher? So doesnt that mean they lost more money getting a publisher than publishing it themselves?

[pine ruin]

@sweet tulip its a upfront investment

[silver plover]

publishers provide a lot of resources that a small team couldn't have. stuff like a marketing team and connections to other studios for things like porting

[pine ruin]

Imagien your a new indie working on your first game.
you have no money.
somone gives you money.

[sweet tulip]

I mean, thats what a job is, u either meet the time frame or u get dropped

[ashen chasm]

why would you do this 🤔

[silver plover]

@sweet tulip not necessarily? game development can be a lot more flexible in the right situations

there are ways to make a successful game that don't involve cramming every update to a deadline

[sweet tulip]

Well, i guess the better question is, how flexible is gearbox with its indie devs?

[pine ruin]

Gearbox is not a good publisher

the best indie publisher is Devolver Digital

[sweet tulip]

Idk, absolver would disagree, that game was left to die

[silver plover]

Devolver's pretty great honestly
though it's strange, because even though Devolver is the "fuck it, just publish with us m8" company, they also seem to have a "style." like, if i see a trailer for a game, i can somehow tell that Devolver published it in the first 20 seconds

[pine ruin]

my friend worked with devolver. sure they did a bit of pressuring, it was not like "go work at a pool", but it was really flexable

[muted spade]

solid proof of why gearbox bad

[silver plover]

ah yeah, this image. i don't think they're going to do this to RoR2.

[pine ruin]

@muted spade thats what worries me with the new ror content DLC updates

[tired juniper]

how is that proof gearbox bad..?

[muted spade]

me too buddy

[pine ruin]

@tired juniper so much dlc.

[silver plover]

the blog post said DLC items are coming out once or twice a year, and each one would be substantially larger than the Content Updates we've had. it's not going to be this, don't fearmonger

[tired juniper]

too much dlc?

[muted spade]

all of that dlc totals to 300+ without the sale

[pine ruin]

again, lets say the update it for 5 years with 2 dlc a year.

thats 10 dlc. thats too much. max is 5

[tired juniper]

most of that borderlands dlc is cosmetics i think lol

[sweet tulip]

Yea

Maybe like 8 expansions and mostly skins

[junior pumice]

Heheheheh, The air crackles and sparks with double rebar Mul-T

[silver plover]

@pine ruin but if the 10 DLCs are all massive updates that provide tons of new content... why would that be bad? it's not like they're adding mtx

they already explained in detail what kind of DLC they plan to make. it's not predatory at all

[tired juniper]

it's also every single main borderlands game

5 or 10 dlc doesn't matter to me, as long as the content and price are appropriate

[thick flax]

The only shitty thing about bl2 was that some of the level cap and character dlc wasn't in the season pass

[pine ruin]

not preditory, but in abundence. @silver plover

[silver plover]

abundance just means more game content. i don't see the problem with that

[sweet tulip]

I mean, they just said themed expansions, who knows how much content its gonna be per expansion

[tired juniper]

we'll just have to wait and see then

[pine ruin]

@silver plover its just confusing

[silver plover]

The goal for Expansions is that they would be multiple Content Updates in size...
@sweet tulip from the blog post

[pine ruin]

ye ror is getting a skin shop

[muted spade]

they're gonna add premium currency you spend on the skins

[sweet tulip]

Ok, honestly if its that big, im fine

[dull ingot]

So im gonna have to pay to play as handy once more?

[sweet tulip]

But the 2 per year seems looooooooooooong wait per expansion

[silver plover]

christ, you people. they announce one extra charge and you people assume the company is gonna crumble
you don't have to like gearbox but you guys are jumping to conclusions hard

let them develop the game for god's sake

[dull ingot]

Well gearbox pretty much ruined everything it touched so idk im actually scared

[muted spade]

you know what, given the image I posted, 2 per year doesn't seem that bad because it'll take an eternity to get anywhere near that point

[thick flax]

Doesn't that kinda show that this entire announcement was horribly communicated

[sweet tulip]

Its only pay for the expansions, didnt they say the final update with all the cut content was gonna be free?

[silver plover]

yes, the next CU will be free

[sweet tulip]

Yea, then its not a big deal, honestly if its only expansions, then its fine, i just wanna wait and see the actual price per expansion

[silver plover]

that's an extremely pessimist way to put it

do you actually expect them to continue working for free dude

[sweet tulip]

Sounds like randy fucked u specifically, what did he do to u man, where did he touch u

[dull ingot]

in my balls of steels officer

[sweet tulip]

Sorry to hear that bud, have an ice pack

Yea well, we r way past the "do we get a publisher or not" infact, we r at the post launch stage

[silver plover]

publishers aren't the best but lay off, good lord
the devs have to earn money somehow. they're not gonna just keep pumping out content for the game and hope it keeps selling, that's not sustainable
all in all, i'm glad they're releasing DLC this way and not resorting to shitty predatory business practices. they're literally being as consumer-friendly as they can possibly be in this game dev climate, and you're giving them shit like they've become some greedy corporate entity. i know we live in a capitalist hellscape but try to look on the bright side for once

[ashen chasm]

So Hopoo working on new expansions that they want to be paid for is heart breaking? Have a snickers you’re not you when you’re hungry lol

[silver plover]

i'm advocating for hopoo here, not gearbox

[sweet tulip]

Can u really blame some of the publishers? U gotta think, the publishers have to choose these new indie devs and trust they publish a good enough game to gain a profit, thats a huge gamble, i can see a lot of trust issues in that

[pine ruin]

think about all their income via ROR

[ashen chasm]

Lmao what

[pine ruin]

over 3 million people bought it I think

[silver plover]

RoR2 by itself is not infinitely sustainable. They will stop making money with it soon, and they have to monetize the game somehow if they want to keep making it. And the best way to do that such that it doesn't fuck over consumers is... exactly what they're doing. This isn't them "going to the grindstone for Randy", they literally just want to be able to fucking live and survive while developing a game they love

the fuck do you mean

[pine ruin]

THink about No Mans SKy

[silver plover]

SV is a good game? what does that have to do with anything?

[pine ruin]

Or terraria

[sweet tulip]

Yea, they coudve just been like "games done, next updates r payed skins" and that would have been the easiest and most profitable route, but they arent doing that

[red echo]

@silver plover pretty sure the point is that sdv is a good game with continuing content updates for free from a solo dev

[pine ruin]

Stardew vally
Terraria
Minecraft
No Mans Sky

All free content for years

I am not agenst dlc

[sweet tulip]

Ok lets be real, who the fuck is bitching that stardew isnt 3d, like for real

The last time i heard bitching for that game is y the fuck they couldnt marry the homeless man

[silver plover]

@dull ingot at this point you're literally just building a strawman. i'm not saying any of that shit, don't act like you know exactly what kind of person i am

if you're just gonna assume im some small brain who knows nothing about game dev then i have no interest in arguing this any further. this is only reductive

yes, continue to pretend like im making these arguments in your imaginary world

[sweet tulip]

Idk who ur talking to but it sounds like u talk to the same people who say "if it isnt 4k 120fps with realistic graphics, its not good"

[dull ingot]

Okay stranger now you need a slap

[silver plover]

who are you talking to

[radiant ingot]

@crude delta you might wanna take a gander in here

[silver plover]

what

he's delusional but i dont think mods need to step in

[radiant ingot]

would've stepped in ages ago but i dont know about the frequency of moderation here. plus im not mod :^)

[tranquil ridge]

Stranger#2270 was muted

[dull ingot]

GOD THANK YOU

[crude delta]

sorry guys

it's my first few weeks in college i'm still adjusting and not online as much

[sweet tulip]

Fair enough, he was getting a little annoying

[crude delta]

oh cute he's in my dms now

[sweet tulip]

Some good points but mostly ranting

[dull ingot]

Its alright man dont worry bout' it

[radiant ingot]

lmao

[tranquil ridge]

Stranger#2270 was banned

[dull ingot]

HAHAHAAH

[pine ruin]

Why was stranger banned?

[sweet tulip]

Yikes

[radiant ingot]

he got obliterated

didnt have beads of fealty

[pine ruin]

What did he do?

did he attack anyone?

[radiant ingot]

read chat

[burnt tulip]

Not liking exclusivity and gearbox lol

[crude delta]

you love to see it

anyways back to on-topic

[pine ruin]

that does not warrent a ban

[dull ingot]

what how

[radiant ingot]

he was being super salty so he got muted. well deserved

[sweet tulip]

Gearbox bad rant, thats y he got banned, and he wouldnt stop unless he was right

[crude delta]

anyways back to on-topic

[pine ruin]

@crude delta oh that does. attacking people sure, but ranting about gearbox, nah

[crude delta]

yes

that's why i only muted him at first

now let's discuss the game in game discussion please

[radiant ingot]

god these fucking fruit flies are pissing me off. i wish i had a real life defensive microbots shooting them down

[pine ruin]

@crude delta ah... you muted him then he attacked you?

[crude delta]

yep

[pine ruin]

cool

[crude delta]

very

[pine ruin]

fair enouph. back on topic

[crude delta]

:) thanks

[radiant ingot]

someone 3d print defensive microbots irl and send to me. ill pay in cashew nuts

[sweet tulip]

So uh, beads or mithrix? Whats ur bois prefer way to finish a run

[radiant ingot]

beads

mithrix boring change my mind

i do like the stage and the music tho

[sweet tulip]

He is kinda cool, his music is cool only when u fight him

Listen to his track on youtube alone, its kinda bad in my opinion

[quick bridge]

So, jade elephant is king broken

[sweet tulip]

It is, it lets u tank so many big attacks

[quick bridge]

Turn on command and get a bunch of fuel cells

And some plates

[sweet tulip]

Do infinite jade with the blue shell and batteries

[quick bridge]

And then you just can’t die

Like, I managed to tank hits from mithrix and live

[sweet tulip]

Yep, a couple of topaz and ur set for the rest of the game

[quick bridge]

Didn’t even need broaches

All I needed were plates

And plates

[sweet tulip]

How do plates stack? Is it percent or linear?

[quick bridge]

Don’t know

But it’s certainly op

[sweet tulip]

Cus i dont really see a difference if i have a couple on so i dont reallt stack them alot

[quick bridge]

I do

There’s a major difference

[sweet tulip]

Dam, what character did u tank?

[quick bridge]

Loader

It was amazing

Dealt so much damage when they couldn’t do it back

[dull ingot]

Plates is linear actually

[sweet tulip]

Makes sense, u dont need a topaz at that point, just build attack speed

[dull ingot]

but they defend even against stuff like fire so

[quick bridge]

Just got a bunch of crystals

And I won

[sweet tulip]

Wait they defend against fire? Thats huge, i gotta do that more

Also, i heard infusion doesnt give extra health past 100, is that true?

[olive sky]

No

It stacks, 2 infusions gives 200 and so on

[dull ingot]

Its only gives 100 if you only took so yeah

is 100 per infusion

[sweet tulip]

Yea, thats what i thought too, i guess the youtuber i saw had the wrong info

[dull ingot]

lol

[high cove]

oh

[dull ingot]

Oh hey slaz

[high cove]

hi puno

[sweet tulip]

Lol he said it only gives 100 and more stacks would just let u reach 100 faster

[dull ingot]

[neat latch]

He was probably thinking about how it worked in ror1

[quick bridge]

Fuck it, two Corpseblooms

[dull ingot]

Lmao

[sweet tulip]

Ah, that would makes sense

[neat latch]

Ror1 there was no cap for the hp it gave, stacking it just gave you hp faster

[olive sky]

It also does gain more faster if you have more, so if you have 10 stacks of infusion you gain 10 hp each kill instead of 1 with a max 1000 hp gain from it

[dull ingot]

Yeah, it was busted, so was razorwire

[sweet tulip]

Alot of ror1 items were broken

[neat latch]

Infusion was just kinda the best item in ror1

[sweet tulip]

That game was trying to make ur pc explode

[neat latch]

I could never loop in it because it just crashed

[sweet tulip]

Yea same, my friend made a build that would proc lazer gun multiple times so it would just crash the game if he shot once

[hexed nest]

so fellas

I unlocked rex recently

he seems pretty good but kinda struggles with tougher enemies

dunno if it was the items I had or I was using him wrong

[red echo]

spam m2 harder

[arctic vine]

he struggles with melee but that's about it

nvm, i mixed up rex and acrid again (no idea how i keep doing that)

rex struggles moreso with malachites than anything else. the tougher ones you just slap with R and get your safe distance from

[grizzled minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522098439191003142/754465217819443330/unknown.png

risk of rain 2: providence's revenge 😄

[winter island]

as rex, you want to group up smaller enemies with R, with help from shift, to use as a source of healing while you mash m2 on clusters or larger threats

enemies effected by R still give heals even if they die before the duration ends

[arctic vine]

as rex you want to prioritize his 2 skill unlocks because they are better skills

[winter island]

drill is a sidegrade imo but bramble volley is 100% better than disperse ya

[radiant flare]

https://youtu.be/S6XIFCS3H7E?t=634 backup drones

are amazing

thats a timestamp

[arctic vine]

depends on the playstyle tbh. i haven't used his once alt now default M2 that often

the other one you have to manage your health with more though

[restive aspen]

that's a strange amount of lunar coins.

[arctic vine]

you're a strange amount of lunar coins

[restive aspen]

you got me. 😦

[arctic vine]

holy shit, backup drones are making this look really easy

[proud stream]

Had something similar with Lunar Chimeras from Happiest Mask just solo-ing him for me, lol

[desert hill]

any suggestions on a good way to get the mercenary ethereal challenge on consoles? always having soul, chaos, and sacrifice is a bit hard to avoid taking damage

[zinc kernel]

hello people of general 2

well game discussion 2

is no one here

[manic kestrel]

looking at discussion 1 gives me an eye sore

[mellow tree]

the first discussion channel turned into a qna

[empty pilot]

whoops theres a channel for memes i didn't see that

[dull ingot]

[manic kestrel]

our boi is deceased farewell sweet prince

[errant pendant]

@obtuse plover aboutwhat?

[zinc kernel]

now this is a clever way of saying "first"

[junior pumice]

ok, stage 15, 100 minutes in, and destroying everything under the sun. Should I go to mithrix or obliterate?

[fierce epoch]

mithrix will annihilate you

so ob

[junior pumice]

Alrighty then

[fierce epoch]

don't forget to take beads

[junior pumice]

Those are going to be a bit tricky

[fierce epoch]

why

[junior pumice]

It's a bit hard to find a newt alter with bodies everywhere

[fierce epoch]

they always spawn at the same places tho

also you may want to do the 20 stages challenge if you didn't clear it yet

[junior pumice]

I've already done that

[fierce epoch]

aight

nvm then

[junior pumice]

Is there a guaranteed spawn for newt in stage 5?

[fierce epoch]

idk about altar spawn's probability

but they always spawn in 3 different spots (5 for sky meadow iirc)

[junior pumice]

Ah, found it

[warm coyote]

Hopoo is going to change Commencement up for the better
@patent pumice you dunce

not confirmed read better next time

[patent pumice]

sh

[warm coyote]

and bandit isnt strictly confirmed but if he's going to be added at all (and hopoo has some ideas for him) then its going to be in the final CU because he thinks stepping on the toes of modders in a paid DLC is a bad idea

[patent pumice]

oh also this

[warm coyote]

yea

also paul likes starstorm and hopoo likes itemstatsmod

[dull ingot]

for anyone asking about what the grandparent thing is

https://youtu.be/7-Pik7kjyEU

[junior pumice]

Holy balls, my last 2 trips to the bazaar have been completely useless

no beads and happiest mask and chronobauble first trip, and second trip, no beads, red whip, and frost relic

[dull ingot]

damn son

[patent pumice]

hey look its me

[junior pumice]

Yay, i got beads!

[potent pecan]

F

i like to call the beads "the beeaans"

[fierce epoch]

y e s

sacrifice the beans to face the chonky boi

[junior pumice]

Uh

I have 14 predatory instincts with only 4 glasses

[fierce epoch]

with a 100 min run ?

tf

[junior pumice]

Yeah, no command either

Can I post images here?

Let's just see then...

https://i.imgur.com/SzKcQP4.png

Forgot to set it to monsoon though :(

[versed epoch]

The run

[primal cedar]

I'll just ask it here instead since it's less cluttered.
We all know that the game has three directors, right? The one for pre-loading, the one for during the run, and one for during the teleporter event. What if Hopoo made a multiplayer exclusive game mode where three players play as the directors and try to kill the player playing as the survivor? I know it's a dumb idea, with a whole slew of problems, but it's been on my mind for a while now.

[versed epoch]

My idea is that dead players can play as turrets and drones

[fierce epoch]

Why would you need a director to kill players when you can use meteorite ?

[versed epoch]

So they're not so bored when they die early

[primal cedar]

It was just an idea I've been thinking about for some time now. I don't know if it could even be feasible

[warm coyote]

1: there are more than 3 directors
2: "directors" arent really what you think they are

its not like an interface that you can control to do stuff

[stray ibex]

It seems like I've only scraped the tip of the iceberg that is this game, huh

Not even 3 words in and I'm lost

[warm coyote]

plus if there was a director vs player gamemode it would likely boil down to the director saving up as much credits as possible, not sending out any enemies so the player cant buy stuff, then fuck them over with one big enemy like an elite boss

this is mechanic stuff, honestly nothing you need to know about

all things considered its pretty useless information

[stray ibex]

Oh yeah, what's everybody's main?

[untold jasper]

Rex

cabbage best boy

[primal cedar]

@warm coyote like I said: not the greatest idea. Just one I had cooking

[junior pumice]

Used to be merc, but now I’m good with probably mul-T

[dull ingot]

Friendship ended with merc acrid best friend now

[stray ibex]

Yes

Acrid is best

Loader is second best

[sharp kestrel]

hey guys, with the sundered grove release on stadia, will pc be late to the update as well?

or is it just console?

[prime oriole]

It’s exclusive for about 30 days

The dev said that earlier but he also said he wasn’t 100% sure

[hexed nest]

i've downloaded the proper save mod, how do i save my game with it?

[prime oriole]

He did not mention if it will come to console immediately after its done being exclusive on stadia or if it will come to pc and then console later

[sand meteor]

did anyone know that forgive me please drops lunar coins

[mossy bone]

@sand meteor it does

[sand meteor]

yeah, i was just using it and got so confused for a second

[elder plover]

I have done mastery with every character except captain, let's gooo

I tried Captain again today and he's more fun than I thought

still doesn't really fit my playstyle, but nice

[forest spindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507292395067539466/754524172218269796/unknown.png so Mithrix is kinda fucking scary up close

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507292395067539466/754524860406956122/unknown.png

[dull ingot]

I don't think giving google stadia an exclusive map will still draw attention to it

[eager badger]

It probably won't but hey

You can play ror2 on your phone

Not sure why you'd want to but you can

[dull ingot]

Stadia is known for being a joke sadly

[indigo silo]

I guess it makes Ror2 on the stadia feel more special?

That's the whole goal at least, even if it isn't much

[shell lotus]

so its coming to stadia but when are consoles getting full release? is there a excate date?

[indigo silo]

I'm not sure but I think November?

[dull ingot]

Prob

[shell lotus]

dang

[dull ingot]

Usually it's 2-3 months after

[eager badger]

Kinda sucks that they have to pay just to update the game

[indigo silo]

The new map for stadia is neat though, though it won't really make me buy a stadia or anything

Yeah consoles are kinda mean with that, it's stupid

[dull ingot]

The map is cool. The drawback is stadia was chosen out of everything.

[shell lotus]

but why stadia?

[eager badger]

They probably got a nice amount of money for it

Good thing is that money will go into updating the game

[indigo silo]

They probably already had plans for porting to stadia, and they made a deal for something special for their platform

[eager badger]

That makes more sense

[dull ingot]

They kind of explained it

[shell lotus]

and also dlc we have to pay for I saw? I get they need to pay their workers they're hiring but I hope they don't lock special characthers behind those dlcs-

maps and bosses I'm fine with sorta

[indigo silo]

Some content will still be free they said

[shell lotus]

but what does that include?

[eager badger]

Balance changes

Fixes, can you not read

[indigo silo]

Im going off of memory

[eager badger]

It's all in the development thoughts, personally I find dlc is gonna be great for the devs

[indigo silo]

for the devs

[eager badger]

And for us too

[shell lotus]

I saw that but is that just it if so that means we have to pay for maps,bosses and other stuff and same I don't have the page up to reread it

[indigo silo]

As long as it's worth the price i really don't care

[shell lotus]

^

[eager badger]

Same

[dull ingot]

Hopefully they don't pull an EA move

[indigo silo]

I doubt they will

They've been super nice to us so far

[eager badger]

Seeing the quality of their work I find it rare that they would not be worth it

[shell lotus]

I'm sure they know better

[eager badger]

And also it's gonna be twice a year at best

The size of several content updates

As they said in the development thoughts

[shell lotus]

imagine a dlc-

Where we go back in time and beat the crap outta providence-

a g a i n

[eager badger]

Sounds nice but providence is probably never coming back

[indigo silo]

It just depends the price i guess, it feels weird buying $15 dlc for a $15 game

[eager badger]

It's probably gonna be 6 to 10 dollars

That's a fair price

6 being a bit too little I'd say

[shell lotus]

probably with each dlc expansion probably like 2-3 characthers 3-4 maps included and a few items,bosses and etc

[indigo silo]

The way they worded the dlcs I feel like it'll be super cool, like a "void pack" or something with a central theme could make it really unique and fun to play

[shell lotus]

but that's me being hopefully

[indigo silo]

A certain environment with a survivor and items that compliment it

[shell lotus]

yeah

[indigo silo]

2-3 characters is overkill

[eager badger]

Yep

[indigo silo]

I'd expect maybe 1

[eager badger]

3 characters is too much

Way too much

[indigo silo]

I'd be happy with a stage, a boss, a few enemies and items

[shell lotus]

thinking about it yeah

[eager badger]

1 or 0 characters is good

[sharp kestrel]

more characters means more playability tho 👀

[eager badger]

We don't need that many characters

[indigo silo]

They could always make the whole pack a character pack and add 2

[shell lotus]

yeah

[indigo silo]

More characters are fun as long as they have heart put into them

[summer stratus]

new survivors are the biggest pull for dlc, core fans like people on the discord might be willing to pay for maps and items but i don't think anyone else is

[sharp kestrel]

^

[indigo silo]

Give me chef and my life will be complete

[shell lotus]

yeah

[silver plover]

I wouldn't be surprised if every DLC pack had at least one character unless it was themed after some other game element

[shell lotus]

give me han-d-

I want me mallet

[dull ingot]

we need chef sir

[indigo silo]

^

[shell lotus]

ehhhh

I didn't like chef that much-

[dull ingot]

[indigo silo]

A chef pack with all food themed items/bosses/stage would be the best

I'd just give them my credit card number at that point

[shell lotus]

A full on miner pack could be interesting-

[indigo silo]

Also this is kinda a dumb question, do you think balance patches could also mean character abilities

Miner pack would work a lot better

[shell lotus]

crystal caves or something fancy and I'm not so sure

but yeah a miner pack with a stage that takes place under ground in a crystal cave/cove the ceiling salagmites dripping with water for enemies bosses they could make another elite type the crystal elite or something fancy 😛 idk

[indigo silo]

Crystal peaks from Hollow knight

[zenith cloud]

I NEED SNIPER ;-;

the mod isn't enough

Imagine miner being able to REAL mine? Like in Deep Rock Galaxy

[flat stratus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnNSo1PH7Co&ab_channel=Foxsise0IQ

[shell lotus]

Crystal peaks is a good reference and I think that would be broken maybe theres a usable item like a shovel that has a chance of digging up unique items that only the shovel can find 🤨 to fit the miner dlc theme

[elfin moss]

Gen chat 1 had drama can we talk about the game lol

[real patio]

Playing with Engi on Eclipse 7, got Mithrix to below half health and still only got 2 items back

last phase sure is fun ha ha h a h a

[open flame]

@shrewd quiver theyre modded modes harder than monsoon

syzygy is diluvian plus eclipse 8

[faint vector]

LMAO imagine being mad we get a free stage

[open flame]

absolute hell but fun in its unfairness lol

[shrewd quiver]

Oh okay

That's cool

I haven't really messed around with mods yet

[small blaze]

because there are 10% achievements on steam it goes to show that the people that use text editors are very few

or does it not count if they didn't do it?

[wise bronze]

i used a text editor for the prismatic trials and got it lol @small blaze cuz that challenge is bullshit

[hearty violet]

never seen that before 😮

[unborn mountain]

I'm trying to grind for irradiant pearl

I'm on stage 43.

I haven't seen a cleansing pool since stage 3

I'm using sacrifice + enigma

I wanted to loop once so the enemies would scale and I'd get more items to increase the chance of equipment.

40 stages later, and I still haven't gotten another cleansing pool to spawn.

It's getting to the point where enemies stop spawning.

[woeful karma]

Yeah, it has a decent spawn rate but only spawns on specific maps (two of them being very labyrinth-like) 😦

[unborn mountain]

I haven't counted but I think I've been to around 17 stages that could have it.

[woeful karma]

Aside from Siren's Call, it'd be extremely easy to miss it in the others, it's a bit frustrating

[unborn mountain]

I've been double checking them all 😦

Wondering if it's even worth it to keep looping now, because enemies aren't spawning very frequently anymore, so equipment items aren't exactly everywhere

I have 9 clovers, maybe I'll just go fight mithrix and probably get slaughtered. But hey, if I manage to somehow win, I'd have a good shot at the log

Meh, if I get to Commencement, I'll use the shrine of order

just to see what happens

[vapid crane]

Do Pools spawn if you have Sacrifice artifact on?

[unborn mountain]

Yes, they do, as do printers

They only get disabled by command, I believe

And I did see one on stage 3, when it was still too early to grind for the pearl.

[bronze sinew]

I really want to get the Irradiant Pearl but man I don't know if it's even worth grinding for

[tired axle]

it's only really worth it if you want to get the full log

[junior pumice]

Full log is hard

Took me a god run with Mul-T to get Grovetender log

I think the hardest monster log to get is probably solus control unit, cause it only spawns late game

[tired axle]

for me the most difficult was aurelionite

[junior pumice]

Oh shoot, that's a good point

Forgot about him

Been seeing a ton of gold shrines lately

Haven't actually taken any of them though, cause he's kinda useless

[tired axle]

i just do it for the 3 free items

since time doesn't move there

[junior pumice]

That's fair

[rose horizon]

Don’t know if it’s cuz of a glitch, or me being dumb, but no matter what I do, I can’t get the Mul-T buzzsaw unlock

[junior pumice]

What's needed for that again?

[rose horizon]

Killing blow on Imp Overload with the preon

[junior pumice]

Ah yes, that one is tricky

[tired axle]

are you on console?

[rose horizon]

I figured it was due to proc items, so I did a command run without any, and it still didn’t unlock

[dusty osprey]

Is there going to be more survivors

[rose horizon]

Yeah I’m on console

[tired axle]

the tentacles don't count on console

[dusty osprey]

Or are they gon milk it like gta 5

[tired axle]

they fixed it in 1.0

[willow helm]

When you get signed out, three hours into a commando run

[rose horizon]

Pretty sure they might add more survivors in paid expansions

[junior pumice]

Ripperoni

[dusty osprey]

Well gg

[rose horizon]

And yeah I read the tendrils don’t count, but even with it dying to the main ball I get nothing

Ima just wait for 1.0

[willow helm]

I was playing Swarm artifact and monsoon

I was going for twenty stages

[junior pumice]

Oh dang

[stoic geyser]

We know there are more survivors and they wont be paid for.

[willow helm]

Then I just got signed out

[tired axle]

you took three hours for 20 stages?

[stoic geyser]

Or at least thats the impression the last poll gave.

[tired axle]

dang

[willow helm]

Well I farmed a lot early because I got really good items early

Plus I like longer games and it was harder due to swarm

[junior pumice]

Swarm sacrifice is the best artifact combo

[willow helm]

I got brainstalk on stage one

[tired axle]

wow

[junior pumice]

Brainstalks are nice

[tired axle]

probably one of my favorite reds

[willow helm]

Listen I don’t like sacrifice that much, rares are much harder to get

[junior pumice]

I got a behemoth and knives on stage one before

[willow helm]

I have some insane rare luck with cheats

Chests*

[junior pumice]

Yeah, same here

That 20% on large chests feel almost like 50/50

[willow helm]

I got sentient one stage 2 then got clover from the one boss

Like I was solid from stage 4

[junior pumice]

That's.. brutal

What character?

[willow helm]

Commando

[junior pumice]

Nice, nice

[willow helm]

Makes it even worse because he’s so inconsistent

[tired axle]

damn, you had a really good run there

[junior pumice]

Takes balls to run commando

[willow helm]

I main Merc, but I love Commando, his play style is fun

[junior pumice]

I also main merc, but I love Mul-T

Double rebar is so brutal

[willow helm]

I had 4 harvester scythes and 60% crit, I’m so salty

[junior pumice]

Youch

In a god run from earlier, I got 14 predatory instincts

But I forgot to set it to monsoon :(

[willow helm]

Oof, well I was having a pretty solid run, I had a bunch of one shot protection and a lot of kill and damage gated items

I killed one elite and cleared the room instantly

[junior pumice]

Oh, I love that feeling

[willow helm]

Yeah dude, I melted the bosses with the spam

[junior pumice]

Here's that run form earlier: https://i.imgur.com/SzKcQP4.png

12 backup mags with Mul-T melt anything and everything

[true yoke]

idk what's up with my recent runs

but I also get two desk plants in longer runs lol

[junior pumice]

At some points I couldn't see the ground there was just so many desk plants

[true yoke]

fungus on roids

[junior pumice]

Oh man, infinitely better than fungus

Unless you're engineer

[swift badge]

Forgive Me Please actually spawns Desk Plant right where you use it, so if you have both, go for it

[junior pumice]

Huh, haven't thought of that

[true yoke]

forgive me please is wild

it also feeds your infusion stacks lol

[tired axle]

it can even spawn lunar coins

[swift badge]

I had a feeling the moment I saw it that it was gonna be strong

[junior pumice]

Forgive me please + soulbound catalyst + ceremonial daggers = fun

[swift badge]

My expectations were low but holy moly

It’s fun to use, strong, and has so many small uses in of itself

[junior pumice]

Definitely more of a situational item though

[true yoke]

very item dependent though

[tired axle]

^

[junior pumice]

It's probably better to have late game, but not so late that you wipe everything off the screen

There's a bit of an area where that works

[swift badge]

It definitely has a point where it falls off super hard, which I think is good. The limit of three dolls at a time keeps its’ strength grounded.

[junior pumice]

Aye

Still though, 3 dolls procing ceremonial daggers at the same time that frequently causes some real damage

I just want to see the boardroom discussion for these items

"Alright, so what if we had a voodoo doll that activated on kill items for x amount of time at x times per second?"

[true yoke]

I bet Wake of Vultures was just one of them playing PoE a lot lol

[junior pumice]

"Ok, a belt of vaguely vulture looking bones that lets you steal an elite enemy's effect on kill"

Anyways, I need to sleep now. 2 am over here.

[plain adder]

So far:

Huntress- Good,if you use the bloody Super Sonic build which will give you more jumps and speed

Commando- Depending on items,he could either be really damn good or just decent

MUL-T- Good if using a build that is much more focused on Firepower

Captain- Pretty good tbh,just need more firing speed

[queen arch]

finally he is complete

[mossy garden]

ultimate doggo

[dull ferry]

has there been any news

on a console update

[mossy garden]

devs reconfirmed its coming in fall

[dull ferry]

i see 😔

[somber valley]

So you can get skins by beating Eclipse

[tired axle]

that's interesting

[heavy thunder]

I think when devs said there're no unlocks for Eclipse, they actually meant no Eclipse specific unlocks

[somber valley]

Yeah, I get that part

But I was wondering whether or not you'd unlock skins since it's technically not Monsoon

[tired axle]

i actually heard some people say it doesn't work

[heavy thunder]

Eclipse is always set on Monsoon difficulty, just with modifiers on top

[tired axle]

guess it's nice to know that it actually does

[signal epoch]

How do you think my AFK will go

[tight wadi]

sequencing at the moon detonation was terrifying but definitely worth it

[robust gull]

That’s a lot of attack speed

[ashen chasm]

Quick question cuz I saw a comment saying that the stadia timed exclusive would only be exclusive for 30 days, does anyone know if it’s true or false?

[dull ingot]

check pins in #gd1-nullified

[ashen chasm]

Appreciate it 👍🏻

[arctic vine]

Never enough attack speed

[vital rain]

https://i.imgur.com/q3NnYUk.jpeg i know the command artifact on drizzle is basically cheating this late but it makes you feel really fucking OP

also dont mind the lunar coin number

1000% legit

[tired axle]

you should stack infusion to get more hp

my record is 100k

[vital rain]

alr will do

[tired axle]

here's the screenshot

[vital rain]

that is a lot of infusions lol

[tired axle]

yeah

also a lot of shield gens

btw just ignore my character

it was a totally legit monsoon run

[floral crystal]

epic combo
1 gesture of the drowned
3 or more fuel cells
spinel tonic
the buff refreshes before the previous one expires
easy game

[dense pumice]

Yes, that's a very widely known strong combo

We welcome you to the club of drug abusers

[terse wharf]

Yes that vary epic combo

[small blaze]

i wonder what bandit's challenge is going to be

[dense pumice]

Could be something crit related. He was supposed to be a crit oriented survivor in RoR1

[native quest]

hi guys, could you ask a question about something?: about the new map that came in the stadia, left for other platforms or is that map exclusive?

[tired axle]

it's only a timed exclusive, meaning that it will arrive to other platforms eventually

[dense pumice]

It will be added to other platforms after a delay yes. I believe they said that 30 day exclusivity on stadia is the deal

Pinned in #gd1-nullified btw

[native quest]

ok, thanks and sorry for meddling like that

[terse herald]

eclipse 8 rex is so dumb

[rare meadow]

indeed

[terse herald]

whenever you use a self-damage move you recieve perma-damage

which makes sense, but basically forces you into using the worse moves

and discourages you from using R

[rare meadow]

should i use alt acrid passive or no

[lapis cosmos]

poison is way better usually

[terse herald]

honestly it's kinda bad

If you're doing command and can use purity + backup mags for machine gun then go ahead

but in all other circumstances use poison

[rare meadow]

ok

[lapis cosmos]

unless you're doing monsoon all artifacts

[terse herald]

^

[rare meadow]

tru dat

[terse herald]

glass + blight isn't bad

[lapis cosmos]

all artifacts meta is so weird

[trail light]

blight benefits from focus crystal though

[dense pumice]

Poison should also benefit from Focus Crystal in that case

[tired axle]

pretty sure it does

[lapis cosmos]

if you have any waya to quickly finish off poisoned enemies it is basically an upgrade

[upbeat gorge]

is this server still burning from yesterday?

[south stratus]

yesterday?

[rare meadow]

wdym