thats how beetles normally work
#gd2-nullified
tired axle
you want to try it?
ivory depot
yes.
tired axle
good luck
arctic vine
I finally unlocked the alt commando skin and now I can stop playing him forever!
ivory depot
whats the mod?
tired axle
i used cheat engine
but there might also be a mod for this
probably easier if you don't have expirience with ce
polar anvil
i think his m2 sents him into an existential crisis
@tired axle having a button like that is useful can i get one irl
ivory depot
yeah im downloading it now
hexed nest
😖
tired axle
@ivory depot how's the beetle thing going?
ivory depot
god no
god no
god no
tired axle
ok
ivory depot
im just hitting m2 and quitting
tired axle
probably for the best
ivory depot
goodbye beetle, goodbye, never again
ivory depot
yeah i think so
stable pelican
... dew it
ivory depot
nah
stable pelican
also do cheats work in multiplayer?
ivory depot
if you do modded mp they have to have the mod(s) too
stable pelican
ah aight
hearty violet
Many mods don't require others to have it. The cheats will probably just be for you 🤔
Cheater.
merry knot
Are we allowed to talk about cheat engine? I wanted to try it to play as monsters like the old survivor pack mod did but i dont want to mess anything up. I had trouble with it a long time ago.
tired axle
it's not that difficult to use honestly
hearty violet
Cheats are allowed so why not 🤔
tired axle
if even i can get it to work
merry knot
It probably isnt- and that was over a decade ago. I’ll probably give it another shot and mess around with some monsters.
They arnt the most exciting to play but the novelty is fun
tired axle
mithrix is pretty fun
merry knot
I tried the playable mithrix mod and it lagged my game even when playing other survivors. I think that was just a mod/compatibility quirk. I remember he was fun aside from that
dull ingot
i think preon accumulator sucks
it charges too long and doesn't do enough damage to justify the down time, the capacitor on the other hand does slightly less damage but charges faster
raven lichen
4k and tendrils or 3k on like a 20 sec cooldown lol
raven harbor
how do i beat mithrix now that hes unkillable while stealing items?
merry knot
Play a 10 minute game of peekaboo or wait to if they change him in a future patch. Im just fighting the scavenger for now :/
severe chasm
Just box him
Like seriously. The fight isn't hard if you play it as intended
Also certain equipment give you items back really fast like the backup and crowdfunder
If you have any more questions let me know @raven harbor the fight is really fun and I enjoy it a lot
rancid remnant
if you can get up on the pillars, (feathers, blink, ion surge, strides of heresy) the only attack that can hit you is the rotary line blast, so final stage is cake so long as you aren't engineer
deft flame
my friend and I cheesed it super hard, he took like 8 shaped glass and then mithrix had no health on his last phase
obviously quite risky, but if you're careful enough (esp during phase 2) it works out well
tacit quail
So as the atificer what should I be looking to build?
safe hare
imagine being 1 stage away from your first artifactless monsoon obliteration and some random lizalfros hits those pots next to you and you take 800 damage
also, is it easier to obliterate or kill mithrix?
opal torrent
I’ve heard that Obliterate is considered easier
glossy iron
i tried so hard on captain to beat him but i obliterated first try
if its that hard just throw on command
scenic slate
Today mithrix has learned the true meaning of pain
I apologize for the tiny as hell resolution i just like to play on a small window size so i can multitask
tight stratus
tfw you're having a good MAAO run and your own Engi turret kills you.
safe hare
holy heck offscreen titans are annoying
god-tier predictions on their punches
doesn't help I had no regen in monsoon
worn wasp
artifact of swarms and artifact of... whatever makes enemies drop items. went into shadow realm as commander. sat outside the charge zone with razorwire and brooch
infinite farm potential. don't know if it's well known
dull ingot
what about commons and uncommons
sinful loom
more secondary bullets (sorry i speak spanish i dont know what name have in english)
dull ingot
?
dull ingot
ok thank you
dull ingot
what's the chance of an atg 10% proccing with 1 clover?
polar anvil
19%
dull ingot
damn, so 10 clovers is a near 70% chance
worldly perch
great run, but bulwark's decided to spawn 3 elite elder lemurians and 4 elite golems at once
that and sky meadow was being itself
muted spade
stage 60+ god runs be like ^
worn jetty
can you get one shot with 1hp with the one shot protection
like is the first hit free and the one after kills you with one hp?
naive solstice
I have a stat display mod that puts stats where drone names are so you can't read either one
10/10
polar anvil
@worn jetty you can't have osp with lower than 90% of hp
worn jetty
ah damn alright
fervent swan
By default, every character has crit chance even without Lens Makers?
patent marsh
Like 1 or so but yes.
narrow gate
fuck i just fucked up such a good run, got hit by the freezinig bubble beacuse I couldnt see what was under me trying to shoot a vagrant, and got exploded when frozen
feels really bad
gritty arrow
feelsbad
open cedar
It would be great to have the number of items of each players when pressing Tab.
slate aurora
"Share items!1!1!!!"
polar anvil
Sharing items is the main part of being successful in co-op @slate aurora
plain viper
or feed 1 person to be really successful 😌
novel sorrel
Then everyone else is just dead weight
Also items are a larger powerspike the less items you have. A team is always at its strongest when the items are shared equally
Like for example a runald band is a lot more useful to someone with no bands as opposed to someone with 10 of both bands
leaden crag
also ther are specific items that go to specific sorvivers
crowbars go to loader
bungus goes to engi
novel sorrel
Crowbars also goes to whoever has ceremonial daggers and/or wisps id say
They work really well together
Theres a lot of detail you can go into for what items are best on who but most of it comes with experience.
wicked star
It always physically pains me when playing co-op and a huntress is taking focus crystals when there's a merc/loader on the team, ping those items people!
pine iris
I
don't play multiplayer unless it's Champion's Ring
in which case sharesuite is enabled
elder plover
what items should I focus on getting for engineer aside from bustling fungus and mobility items?
quartz saffron
rigid sky
MOAR fungus
tepid wolf
Ah yes the AFK base engineer kit
quartz saffron
add some 
tired axle
so.. this was a bad idea
pine iris
wow
tired axle
we did it boys
pine iris
did you help your friend kill an overloading worm
tired axle
yes
pine iris
nice
tepid wolf
Base kit engineer can either be fun or a boring slugfest
elder plover
I use spider mines lol
tepid wolf
Spider mines don't change his plystyle at all
elder plover
and the automatic missiles
tepid wolf
Harpoons and mobile turrets though
Spider mines are just one of those no brainer direct upgrades
elder plover
yeah
quartz saffron
but unlocking is super easy
tepid wolf
I tried harpoons and stationary turrets but they always contradicted themselves
elder plover
my friend legit destroyed bosses with turrets alone while I was playing with him lmao
tepid wolf
Harpoons allows you to run around and kill stuff on your own while mobile turrets bind you to spots
tepid wolf
Shield bubble is usually just good to throw on the stationary turrets
elder plover
trueeeee
tepid wolf
Not that safe for yourself but good for the turrets
elder plover
once I get antlers, I don't have to worry about turrets
tepid wolf
With harpoons I saw the stationary turrets dying a lot more because of the lack of bubbles
elder plover
they didn't even die during mithrix's third phase, I think
tepid wolf
The game will catch up to the turrets in long runs
tepid wolf
Later on in my monsoon runs I see them die really fast
elder plover
I'm currently trying to complete monsoon with each character for the alt skins
tepid wolf
Mainly because monsoon scales pretty quickly
elder plover
bro you should've seen my friend's turrets during our god run
bosses are nonexistent, because they're gone so fast
tepid wolf
I mean they are once you get n'kuhanas
tepid wolf
I just never found them to work well without the bubble shield
tepid wolf
The mobile turrets are quite viable as well
pine iris
ok I need good builds for 'mando monsoon mithrix
tepid wolf
They scale from completely different items though
elder plover
two words: soldier's syringe
tepid wolf
Poor commando and his inconsistent runs
elder plover
also backup magazines are pretty good for phase blast
phase blast is his strongest move imo
tepid wolf
Suppressive fire
pine iris
syr. and bleed+100% crit is a no-brainer
think I might snag c-dags too
elder plover
nah
tepid wolf
Suppressive fire mainly scales with attack speed which is the main thingy
quartz saffron
daggers only help getting to the moon, but not so much during the fight
elder plover
even with all the proc chances, cooldown's brutal; phase blast is good until you get an alien head or at least smth that reduces cooldown
tepid wolf
Bleed is good for mythrix on captain or commando which can get stacks going
quartz saffron
grab one chronobauble to slow mithrix down
elder plover
use suppressive fire anyway when you have it
tepid wolf
Commando is fun but one of the least consistant characters in the game
pine iris
I was going to get 100% crit, 7 dags, shatterspleen, and scale to death-mark proccing
tepid wolf
Not getting that without command artifact cheese
pine iris
I k n o w
elder plover
I fell in love with commando when I first played him
tepid wolf
Also if you are doing it for the skin go for an obliteration
pine iris
nah I'm gonna fight mr. M
elder plover
I got to mithrix's third phase as engi, but I messed up during that wall attack 😭
tepid wolf
Trust me oblits are much easier
elder plover
and then a lunar chimera killed me
tepid wolf
Mythrix is mainly an annoying fight
pine iris
@tepid wolf I'm going to stage 20, and then fight mr. M
elder plover
true true
but I had 4 charges of capacitor
so I could just camp during the 4th phase
tepid wolf
I had fun fighting him the first few times and then I started to just skip the fight
elder plover
awesum
worn orchid
Yeah ever since the buff to him I just don’t fight him anymore
tepid wolf
Mythrix scales extremely fast btw
Even on god runs I saw him on 49 000 000 HP and he even killed me
pine iris
ok I'll get skin first on an oblit loop, then go for grenades
elder plover
they always do hefty damage whenever I use them on bosses and stuff
tepid wolf
I mean they help with early game AOE
Them having no adjustable fuse time and being stupidly bouncy makes them feel weird
elder plover
oooo being able to manually detonate them would be fun
tepid wolf
It feels like you are throwing a bouncy ball instead of a grenade
I mean them being sticky grenades in general would be enough
So you could at least blow us Wisps
Frags are viable by making your early game more consistant
elder plover
yeah, but that would be too easy
tepid wolf
But fall off pretty fast
elder plover
plus we have sticky bombs
tepid wolf
Manual detonation wouldn't make them skill based
Commando is a simple gun man by design
He is the most plain and generic character intentionally
elder plover
I don't think so; being able to throw grenades and timing the explosions would be a fun implementation that could spice up his gameplay
but that's just me
tepid wolf
I mean enemies are not going at light speed
Imagine trying to hit a tiny wisp with a sticky grenade
elder plover
but you gotta admit it's better than the bouncy physics and timed detonations
elder plover
and sticky grenades would just be annoying if you can't get the target
with manual detonation, you can get the aoe you want
plus the satisfaction of timing
ooo brilliant behemoth does that? sweet
elder plover
easier, yes, but also depending on the player to do so without having it be annoying to miss
it's a good balance
tepid wolf
I mean instadeleting wisps by pressing R is interesting
pine iris
give me artifact of kin™️ and beetles, fuck around and find out
elder plover
I suppose it is interesting
in the end, we're just making concepts anyway
good talk good talk
tepid wolf
Would be interesting if commando got an alternate M1 like huntress at some point
elder plover
artifact of kin and beetles is free 💸
that would be cool
what do you think he'd have?
tepid wolf
I mean some dual submachine guns or something could be fun
elder plover
dual smgs nice
tepid wolf
I have no clue about the stats to be honest
tepid wolf
You gotta shoot the red skeleton
pine iris
yes
quartz saffron
ye
also note that artifact code tablet
if you jump down in the hole, you'll spawn in above
tepid wolf
Man I should finish my artifacts since they are my last achievments
elder plover
interesting
tepid wolf
Mercenary ethereal was the hardest achievment to get though
Like screw that challenge
Slicing winds are a sidegrade to eviscerate since 1.0 at least
river sorrel
I still haven't gotten ethereal, it's 1 of 2 achivements im missing lol
tropic garden
once they scale slicing winds attack speed it will be viable
patent marsh
So, this chat has been slow enough for me to feel comfy asking here. Feel free to ping me in your response.
So, I'm a slow methodical player that likes to explore every single square centimeter of the stage. I used to love Mul-T because it was a big brollick bitch, that I could use the normal kit and not think.
Now I have to think and don't know what secondaries/tertiaries, and could use some help.
What would be useful for a Mul-T who just sits there and kills things almost endlessly?
polar anvil
@patent marsh power saw
crystal bone
digging through all the unimplemented stuff is pretty cool
the crystal beetle guard is kinda neat
and the assassin
wait, crystal beetle might be implemented
damn, enforcer looks pretty neat
elder plover
@patent marsh I think the usual is nailgun + powersaw!
tired axle
i wonder what the grand parent boss would have been like
crystal bone
there's a working car in the game I guess
pretty fun to drive
I'm guessing the devs were considering implementing vehicles into the game?
pearl hedge
you gotta unbox the enforcer
ebon fox
Happiest Mask?
tired axle
would be really weird to have a seperate entity for that
ebon fox
Maybe Mithrix was originally intended to have an Umbra clone like Providence in RoR1
tired axle
could be the case
woeful karma
Would be awesome if swarm Mithrix's clone was the ghost self, but I don't know how hard it'd be to program
sharp fable
Inb4 Mithy-boy and his clone actually have full health
woeful karma
Then it'd better give three times the rewards
sharp fable
"A single moon-chip"
copper hazel
damn, enforcer looks pretty neat
@crystal bone
stable tiger
whats the best build for Artificer?
ripe beacon
more crowbars
raven lichen
Good question lol. Artificer has decent damage but very low survivability. Id recommend trying to take healing or survivability and movement options above all else, and then anything that synergizes with burst like crowbars or bands. Imo artificer is the most underwhelming member of the cast currently.
ripe beacon
^
stable tiger
is it worth picking up Purity?
or do i want my proc chance
and what about active items? atm im using infinite spinel
raven lichen
I would not with tonic unless you have 100% uptime guaranteed, like with gesture. It rerolls the chance you get afflictions too, so even a blip of downtime could be catastrophic
I think it would depend on how much your already dealing with your build. Are you mostly shooting stuff to die, or are you shooting a few times and items are doing most of the work?
ripe beacon
as long as there's no way for tonic afflictions to get you go ahead
stable tiger
atm i shoot once and everything dies
raven lichen
I think its fun. You get to fire a lot more and it makes attack speed on M1 feel better. Up to you, artificer can totally vibe with purity and be safe. It will decrease the amount of work your items do by themselves though, since things like missile and uke chains get a lot less likely.
You probably dont need it if your items are shredding, but if you are that strong it probably wont hurt either.
stable tiger
does runald spam seem good for bosses?
like getting 20 or so runalds bands
should i grab an alienhead or brain stalk for my first legendary
raven lichen
Hmm good question. Brain stalks is fun and then you don't really need purity aha
raven lichen
Tesla is powerful. If you can shoot once and kill stuff, tesla will zap and kill for you
jade current
I'm kinda interested in the paladin character in the unused files.
stable tiger
enemies got em i mean
dull ingot
I did the thing, at least the first level of eclipse. Got some really good luck with the items
Brainstalks allowed me to loop without a problem because of just how good it is
add hooks and shattering justice, and you're killing everything
Had a setup for death mark but didn't get one
safe hare
So its stage 8 as captain, there are 4 dunestriders and I don't have good DPS. I fire for like 5 minutes just for them to self-heal with the 100 enemies by them and after like a 20 minute fight I die to a wisp that dealt 80% of my health instantly. I felt as though I had decent RNG that game.
What am I supposed to do?
dense pumice
Fully charge the teleporter so that enemies no longer spawn, and bombard the enemies with your aoe shift while the dunestrider is sucking them to kill most of them at once I guess.
red echo
if you didn't have good DPS by stage 8 you didn't have very good rng
got unlucky, it happens
safe hare
I had like 3 glasses, 1 pred, 2 harvestor, and other stuff
red echo
do you know how to burst down dunestriders without them doing the succ?
red echo
then yeah that's just an F you didn't get enough damage items
needs more bleed/crit/procs
safe hare
didn't know that charging a tele stopped enemy spawns, thought they kept spawning till both tele and boss are done
dense pumice
Nope
safe hare
I'm trying to do a legit mastery run so I can feel good about myself getting a skin that I probaby deserve
dense pumice
If you charge to 99% and boss is alive, enemies will stop spawning
red echo
oh huh you right
guess i've just never been in that situation, usually i have the boss dead by 99%
dense pumice
You can use this to get the Engineer Zero Sum challenge a lot more easily
safe hare
also, f*** stage 8 and reliance on RNG to get there, my next mastery run will be mithrix
red echo
obliterating is more consistent than mithrix tbh
dense pumice
^ my experience too
But maybe it's just cause I'm used to doing Oblit runs from before and am not that good at Mithrix fight yet
granite trench
Yeah if youre doing mithrix legit you need a fair amount of movespeed and and healing
winged briar
can someone tell me what could have killed me that was "The Planet"
safe hare
On siren's call, have been lookin for the tele for 13 minutes now, is it bugged?
still haven't found it
and I have distinct memories of being literally everywhere
and I don't even see the embers they normally emit
low burrow
the concept of gettings your items stolen by mithrix as a loader is insane
wtf are you supposed to do
walk up to him, bump him a few times then get one shotted
restive aspen
I hide around the pillars/ramps, then use R to get items back
safe hare
there are a lot I think
spark narwhal
How do you "improve" Artificer?
winged briar
isn't there something called arti extended or something
south stratus
How do you "improve" Artificer?
@spark narwhal bigger thigh and ass
warm coyote
artificerextended is probably the best one
bigger thigh and ass
only if youre horny (gross)
spark narwhal
That would probably slow her down even more. I highly doubt that is an improvement.
warm coyote
there was another mod called alternativeartificer which gave her a new passive that was pretty cool
but its deprecated
winged briar
wait what was that passive
warm coyote
instead of hovering, it gives you passive buffs depending on your skill choice
more specifically 3 different kinds of buffs with increasing intensity depending on the number of skills from each element you have
it was really cool and the coolest parts of it made arti feel like an actual space wizard
winged briar
that's super neat
warm coyote
hover sucks, thats her biggest problem imo
there is a mod that changes hover a bit actually
artificer2 adds a little speed boost on a cooldown when you activate hover
its a fun concept but a tad overtuned imo
fallen owl
Im not really sure im not an artificer main
I mostly play huntress
I think captain is fun but lacks mobility
lean phoenix
woeful karma
Captain's lack of mobility is not much a problem imo, since early on you have the taser, and you get a good amount of crowd control
And Rex and Mercenary (still imo) are two of the hardest survivors to learn, so that can be why 😄
hallow fractal
pretty crazy run overall
quick bridge
Lucky
I’ve sunk in around a hundred hours into risk of rain and not once have I gotten or even seen an irradiated pearl
hallow fractal
was a four person vanilla monsoon run, lost a person who left right after we lost void fields (final round spawned them with tesla coil, I bailed, everyone else died, person left in the swamp stage). Got to ship's graveyard, they both died, then left, and I was struggling to kill the stupid flying eyeball and an insane fight of dropping things into a pool and activating healing shrines to trigger fireworks/stay alive. picked up an irradiant pearl mid-fight and that plus a sawmerang and 3 fuel cells won me the fight.
discovered a tritip printer after the fight was over and I was like "come ON, game" levels of exasperation
after that it was pretty easy to snowball from there and get to the celestial with 4xitems. haunting masks was surprisingly useful for taking aggro, and I think bleed effects are a little overbuffed r/now
quick bridge
Bleeds so good man
hallow fractal
I think they're too good? I remember a 4xshatterspleen 5xtritip run I had and I was regularly getting 800~ stacks of bleed on a target
well, the ones that could survive that long
quick bridge
Shatterspleeens were probably the majority
hallow fractal
anyway yeah that's the first irradiant pearl i've gotten, ever, and I suspect it might be the last. I was tempted to victory lap the game but I wanted my sweet coins.
well, I also had 20 fuel cells and sawmerangs with gesture
hallow fractal
that probably had something to do with it
quick bridge
Yeah that sounded like a pretty good run
hallow fractal
did you know if you get a sawblade stuck on terrain - particularly a large stack of them - and run an enemy over it they'll explode
quick bridge
I actually didn’t know that. Don’t really use sawmerang and I most certainly didn’t get enough fuel cells and gestures for that to happen
hallow fractal
well, you can get sawmerange blades stuck on terrain pretty easily and most people complain it's a disadvantage
it really isn't
quick bridge
It’s more like a trap
Enough blades and you can kill most bosses just by making them walk over it
Except vagrant since he’s flying
mortal leaf
Two TC-280 on thrid stage with a captain. I don't mind if I do
hollow galleon
quick, throw me your best renames for enemies and items
polar anvil
Can't access my pc
placid turret
mortal leaf
I wanted to try to contest mithrix with just those two on level 5, I had no damage nor mobility items so i did it mostly as an experiment. Guess what. Both the big boys got stuck in the spawn area of the moon. Good time.
woeful karma
Drones are unreliable at best, sadly 😦
earnest kindle
Finally...
Mithrix is just a pain to be honest, that final phase is just not fun
I just did the Disposable Missile Method
Very efficient
woeful karma
Last phase is very hit-or-miss depending on who you're playing and the build you have
Imo they should just have made it so you have a DPS cap, so that you still have your items but you can't just destroy him in a second
tepid wolf
The last phase got nerfed into the ground
elder plover
capacitor is also pretty good in 4th phase
you just gotta camp hard til you get your fuel cells back
tepid wolf
Because of it not having the special scaling
earnest kindle
Missile Launcher puts all instances in a queue so I don't even need the cells back lol
tepid wolf
Since Mythrix himself has the same scale speed as aurelionite
elder plover
also woah, Miner?
elder plover
ooo what's it called?
tepid wolf
God the old Worship unit scaling
earnest kindle
Minerunearthed by Rob
woeful karma
Still waiting on that Chef mod 😄
elder plover
I'm def checking them both out
dull ingot
miner walks like he's severely constipated
woeful karma
They both feel like their RoR1 counterpart and fit in nicely with RoR2
Sniper mod is a bit weirder, sadly, didn't work out for me 😦
dull ingot
tldr
earnest kindle
The characters I currently have modded in are:
- Bandit
- Sniper
- Miner
- Aatrox
- Twitch
- Akali
woeful karma
The LoL ones feel really weird to play. They're well made and fun to play, but they don't really fit in with the universe sadly
dull ingot
ye sora is the same
really neat well made but the thematic perversion feels so.... wrong
dull elm
is it just me who thinks that Mitrix last phase is way too easy now?
tbh his hp is too low, I steal only few of my items back when I kill him
novel sorrel
Depends how far you are into the run. If you dont have a lot of items its definetly easier but if you’ve done like a 2 hour run then do mithrix, phase 4 feels literally impossible
dull elm
might be the case as well, my monsoon runs are usually under an hour
elder plover
thanks! and yes I have
pliant meadow
Mithrix stage 4 is doodoo. The second I unlock purity is the last time I'm dealing with that fool
onyx blade
hey anyone know if the unfinished datamined stuff will or wontget put into the game? like bandit, grandparent boss, etc.
gritty arrow
thats the devs to decide
onyx blade
cause like for bandit hes basically done right?
gritty arrow
bandit does look finished
onyx blade
i hope he gets added hes real fun, but also that grandparent boss looks dope
gritty arrow
they did say about bringing back old characters but dunno which ones
onyx blade
i hope they add more ror1 stuff too like the Children and slime monsters
the caves
water levels, though idk how thatd work
ive been getting really into ror1 and man theres so much stuff id Love to see put in ror2
onyx blade
the controls took me a while to get used to but now i love it
got some fun mod characters like a plague doctor and providence
really fun
i really hope we get to see Miner again, hes pretty fun
i know someone made a mod with him but its kinda wonky cause 2D to 3D skills are a bit strange
leaden crag
wait grandparent boss? lol
gritty arrow
yep check the wiki
or here's the link
https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Grandparent
if you want also check the youtube video
tired axle
are they still working on the boss?
tired axle
if i remember correctly he had less attacks during the artifact update
it would definatly be interesting to have a boss that doesn't move
gritty arrow
in the youtube video all i see was
- Teleporting and slamming
- Spawns Ancestral Incubators
but i dont know what update the youtube video is at
tired axle
he can teleport towards you, teleport you to him, do a swiping attack and spawn the parent pods
i tested it out with cheat engine
gritty arrow
ah ok
tired axle
i didn't even know they updated assassin
guess they're still working on some of those characters
i kinda just skipped over them, since i didn't think hopoo changed anything
they even updated han-d a bit
gritty arrow
im still confused on the blue beetle guard XD
gritty arrow
wait thats a paladin?
tired axle
i'm just going through the IDs myself now
gritty arrow
no its literally a beetle guard thats blue XDD
tired axle
yeah, that's paladin
tired axle
paladin was one of the character ideas during the survivor poll
they said he would be "warrior creature from the planet"
guess it makes sense for him to be a beetle guard
gritty arrow
oh didnt read the warrior creature part
tired axle
kinda sad he didn't make it in, he seems pretty fun to play
i'm pretty surprised his shield is actually working
gritty arrow
yeah same
tired axle
guess there's still hope tho
gritty arrow
yep definitely
leaden crag
i have 5k hp with 4 shaped glass lol
gritty arrow
wth nice
leaden crag
the power of 100 psg
elfin panther
How do i stabelise the cell in the void feild?
dim frigate
It's like a mini teleporter event
Stand in the cell after activating it and survive against the onslaught
You have to do that 9 times, with each successive one adding another enemy or another item to the enemies
Cells 1, 3, 5, and 7 add 1 new enemy. Cells 2 and 4 add 5 stacks of a white rarity item. Cells 6 and 8 at one stack of a green item. Cell 9 adds a red item (including dio's best friend, so be wary of that)
You can leave through the portal at any point if it gets too dicey
For example, if you get brass contraptions and elder lemurians
But yeah. Dangerous items are probably tougher times, repulsion armor (depending on how early in the game you do it), crowbar (can cause a couple enemies to outright one-shot squishier survivors like huntress), dio's best friend (which does respawn them at the conclusion of the event, so even when you stabilize the cell completely, you aren't safe yet), and tesla coil. Others probably exist, but those are the big ones.
pine iris
behemoth and templars, anyone?
pine iris
behemoth and templars is fucking scary
dim frigate
I've thankfully never seen that combination.
I usually either get dio's or ritual knife
Oh they removed dagger from pool. That's neat.
And razorwire
terse wharf
That good to know
dim frigate
I'm assuming it has the same blacklist as Evolution, which is the same effect
pine iris
yeah I think so
pine iris
yes
dim frigate
Yeah. They can get most items, even on-death triggers
pine iris
but it only works if they kill you
terse wharf
That is interesting
terse wharf
They can get fungus
dim frigate
Indeed. That might not be the list used
terse wharf
Oh ok
dim frigate
A couple anomalies with this list though:
- Unless this blacklist applies to Vengeance, the lunar items on the list are superfluous because enemies don't receive lunar items otherwise.
- If the list applies to Vengeance, it's weird that they set proc coefficient for Vengeance umbras with razorwire to 0, because they can't even use razorwire in the first place.
terse wharf
Ok
dim frigate
Also, the guy who wrote the void fields entry is way too worried about medkit and n'kuhana's opinion.
terse wharf
Ok lol
dim frigate
Neither of those items are remotely worrying on enemies as, just like in the first game, if they keep taking damage, the medkit won't proc. It'll keep resetting the timer on the proc.
terse wharf
Ya
tired axle
but if you accidently hit a monster and don't kill it the skull will most likely kill you
terse wharf
Ya
dim frigate
True
Just don't hit monsters you don't intend to kill
But that's why you should always do void fields as soon as you can. Monsters scale much faster than you do.
(As far as raw stats go)
tired axle
yeah
terse wharf
And the later u start it the harder monsters
elfin panther
but like how do i start it
pearl hedge
Cells 1, 3, 5, and 7 add 1 new enemy. Cells 2 and 4 add 5 stacks of a white rarity item. Cells 6 and 8 at one stack of a green item. Cell 9 adds a red item (including dio's best friend, so be wary of that)
uh akshully green items stack in threes
dim frigate
Yeah, I just noticed that on the wiki
dim frigate
Yes, it's just mildly annoying
But your first encounter with it, it can catch you off-guard
terse wharf
Tesla and dio are the 2 worst reds
tired axle
n'kuhana is pretty bad if the monster has consistent heal
terse wharf
Yes
dim frigate
Side note: I really wish that there were more white options for on-death builds
pine iris
tbh you should be able to shoot down n'kuhana wisps
tired axle
that would be pretty nice
dim frigate
Forgive-me-please is one of my absolute favorite equipment
terse wharf
Forgive me is good and fun
dim frigate
It really is
pine iris
also: one time, I got 5 crit glasses as a white, 3 scythes, 3 predatories, and BB as the red
I died very quickly
dim frigate
I did a command run for the lols.
And did merc on-death
So many wisps and gasolines
terse wharf
Lol
dim frigate
(Also crowbars)
I kill one and then everything just explodes.
The daggers were unnecessary, but also fun
terse wharf
Ya that sounds fun
dim frigate
It also meant that I had no trouble on the boss
Because none of the items could actually proc on me
(Thank god I had no drones)
tired axle
if mithrix killed them he would have proced the items
dim frigate
If he killed a drone in third phase, that would kill me very quickly
Since I was squishy merc
Probably would one-shot me
terse wharf
Oh ok
dim frigate
Between the wisp and gas
grand yarrow
Does anyone want to hear about my recent Engi run? I had lunar items that replaced my primary with this crazy crystal shot that exploded seconds after impacting, sort of like sticky bombs.
I also had a myriad of other items, enough to blow through enemies even at 'HAHAHA' difficulty. And I died to an Imp.
terse wharf
Rip
grand yarrow
Should I consider trying for Co-op since I'm having such a hard time beating a run?
tired axle
it's probably better to get your first win by yourself
grand yarrow
Well, I managed to unlock Loader, so I guess I could give them a shot next time.
tired axle
how many clovers?
pine iris
pog
terse wharf
Pog
lime palm
0
tired axle
damn
lime palm
tired axle
now that's pog
tired axle
nice
lime palm
tired axle
now you just need to complete the logbook
lime palm
logbook is almost complete for me
lime palm
captains bots, red scrap, irradiant pearl
tired axle
you got all of them?
lime palm
nah, that's all i'm missing on the items
pine iris
I got irradiant pearl on my first pool use
tired axle
oh
lime palm
1 enviorement missing, 3 bosses missing
tired axle
i could tell you which one, if you want to
lime palm
nah i know which ones they are
tired axle
aight
lime palm
distant roost for the envi, alloy worship unit, overloading worm and grovetender
tired axle
you know how to get captains bots?
vocal yarrow
Am I a Commando main now?
pine iris
yes
brave galleon
You somehow worked hard enough to get this far.
Are you? Did you get to stage 20 without a single lunar?
tired axle
you will be banished from the counsil of commando mains
ionic sandal
why does ror2 get no views on youtube? for example i see a youtuber who gets consistently 200k views and then he makes a ror2 video and it barely makes it to 90k
tired axle
it's probably not that interesting to watch
vocal yarrow
Welp... There is a point in the game where pretty much not even the game knows what is happening, so yeah
ionic sandal
yea you are right... commiting galactic genocide is more fun than watching someone else do it
tired axle
guess i'm the first blazing missile drone
grand yarrow
Wait, how..?! MODS?!
tired axle
cheat engine
fluid summit
htf did you do that ? x)
pine iris
you can also use rorcheats
fluid summit
but... How do you control a drone with cheat engine ?
tired axle
every entity has a value, both survivors and monsters, you use cheat engine to search for the one of you're survivor and change it to the one og the drone
commando is 26, captain is 22 and the drone is 64
that's all you really need to do it yourself
fluid summit
i have an hard time finding the right adress on cheat engine
fast geyser
optimal risk of rain 2 resolution:
quiet kraken
fast geyser
oh you know it
tired axle
first search for commandos value, switch to captain and search for his value, if you still have multiple adresses switch back to commando @fluid summit
fluid summit
Ooooh okay ! So it's possible to get that from the select menu, thanks a lot !
tired axle
you're welcome
fluid summit
how did you discover the values tho ?
fluid summit
Than ks you so much !!
opaque scarab
I think I am a Loader main now
tired axle
i'm getting to the point were i can facetank elite elder lemurians
i think i have enough hp
guess i'm going to mithrix now
strange elm
@tired axle Well, you just used that shrine of order. What was in the cauldrons?
tired axle
i have command
pine iris
soups still spawn
pine iris
ah
radiant ingot
ionic sandal
any other game has lots of videos that is at least at a million views, risk of rain 2 has only one (by uberdanger)
tired axle
there are a lot of games that are way less known then ror2
especially rougelikes don't seem to get that many views on youtube
ionic sandal
im just butthurt that people don't know/care about this game :/
trail light
change that to most games that ever existed
tired axle
terraria is great
there also is a lot more content to make videos about
especially with mods
urban marten
died with 1 boss left on the last stage on monsoon
tired axle
f
urban marten
screw this game. I'm never playing it again.
for today
Engineer's turrets v2 are fun but... I hate them
eager field
Hm. random observation. Some equipment seems to have a hidden minimum cooldown that can be achieved with cooldown reduction based on their animation. Assuming Gesture fires the frame the equipment becomes available, it seems like most of them only start cooling down when their animation finishes, (which is why some equipment with a set duration doesn't stack but some does)-- Forgive Me Please for example seems to only fire ~ 1/second even with a very, very high cooldown reduction on it, and the royal capacitor only seems to get down to ~0.1s, whereas the sawmerang seems to be able to fire every frame. Anyone know if this holds true for other pieces of equipment? I haven't tested it extensively. If so, I'm curious which equipments have the fastest max fire rate. (ignoring equipment that would lag the game horribly like the missile launcher and the backup)
primal ocean
I think Forgive Me Please actually has a cap on dolls?
tired axle
you can only have 3 forgive me please at once
eager field
Ooh, that could explain the bug I ran into with that
tired axle
before it got nerfed it was similiar to royal
eager field
If you throw 3 of them off the edge of a map it stops spawning them
tired axle
yes
eager field
Presumably it deletes the instances that fall off before their duration expires and never decrements the count of active dolls
how long is the animation on primordeal cube? can you get a cube beam?
Or is it more like the accumulator?
tired axle
i'm pretty sure it's almost instant
eager field
sounds silly, love it
tired axle
it's not really a beam tho
i fired like 12 of them at once with mul-t
it's just a very bright ball
granite shard
they fixed the FMP off-map bug
primal ocean
Did they? I played yesterday and got it.
tired axle
i'll check the patchnotes
granite shard
I might not be able to read? I haven't seen a single FMP in a week, so
granite shard
i stand corrected, that's mad
thought it would be a pretty critical one since they limited it
eager field
Yeah.... like you can use it to farm lunar coins
primal ocean
like, it's not hard to make it a win button for anything other than the mith phase 4.
tired axle
it's not really a good way to farm coins tho
primal ocean
forget coins, it can literally just play the game way faster than the doomstack I had earlier
granite shard
what do you mean, free lunar coins against mithrix is the perfect counter
up to 8 free coins, even if you die! that's almost as many as winning
primal ocean
just get one copy of ceremonials and like
tired axle
the chance halves each time you get a coin
primal ocean
stack a billion wisp/gas
granite shard
if i stack a billion wisp i am winning regardless of FMP
for sure its strongest with soulbound and daggers
but that's a lot of reds for an equipment... capacitor is good with just crowbar and a band
primal ocean
soulbound? I figured one gesture and an assload of fuel cells
then it just simulates the endgame snowball of not needing to really aim or interact
granite shard
that's also not much easier to get online
primal ocean
then again, I play solo.
it's busted solo, I literally have no idea how online works because the base game strains my laptop hard enough alone
granite shard
for perma uptime you#re gonna need like seven cells + gesture
ive not had seven fuel cells in a run without a printer in months :D
primal ocean
then again, I also play command, so everything hits the godmode threshold eventually
or has me die in two levels because command+sac+swarms+honor spawned twenty lemurians on me in a menu
granite shard
oh you play with command
that solves that problem lmao
FMP is a LOT better with command :D
primal ocean
yeah, I play the old school enemy-farmer setup
FMP+Command is one of those win buttons, but it's possibly one of the easiest to set up?
get hell once and you're set
I LOVE how it procs infusions for you though
and monster teeth, literally just a health fountain
granite shard
command anything is ez to set up thats the idea :D
stage 1 get crit and ATG and you are now carried until you have lele, clover/hook, some mobility and max crit stuff
FMP is a bit niche without command, you've got to be lucky to have a run capable of using it and also to find it
primal ocean
or stage 1 get oops, all blazing wisps on artificer, and get merked
yesterday I had that happen like... 4/5 of the runs I started with honor kin. wisp wisp wisp wisp
granite shard
i mean if youre arti you probably want one repulsion early on for that exact reason
especially with swarms
brooch too
primal ocean
the RNG sometimes feels like it's biased toward some enemies for a kin run at the start
granite shard
beetles have never been threatening, wisps always have been
primal ocean
Do Honor/Swarms still have that thing where you get weirdly low drop rates?
tired axle
probably
honor drastically reduces money drops from elites
and since item drops are based of money drops
primal ocean
eesh, so that's why
warm coyote
thought it was based on xp drops
finite swallow
for honor, it counts as if the enemies were normal
they give normal xp and gold
im pretty sure you dont get elite xp or money ever during honor
so the only reason to pick up honor if you are doing god runs is for brain stalks, wake of vultures, or guillotine stacking
granite shard
or for challenge
finite swallow
swarms does cut rewards in half
warm coyote
pretty sure exp drops are based on max health, and honor does increase max health, but not by as much as normal elites would get
finite swallow
but it has a minimum drop rate of 5%, so if it was already 5% originally it would technically double
tired axle
it's not half
primal ocean
ah yes, thanosing the drop rates, but also not
warm coyote
it is half, disregarding the minimum value
tired axle
or am i missreading something?
primal ocean
so what combo of artifacts makes for the best overall command/sacrifice shenanigans?
finite swallow
granite shard
yeah its like elder lemurians go from 23 to 18% orsomething, it's weird
the best command thing is swarms/sacrifice for sheer item quantity
finite swallow
cause of the log
granite shard
starts slower but with command that doesn't matter
warm coyote
ah yeah its cause of the log
tired axle
i have no idea what the log is
warm coyote
it halves in the same way tougher times adds 15% to block chance
well not the same way
granite shard
well tougher times doesnt even add 15%
it's like 13% for the first isn't it lmao
warm coyote
thats my point
tired axle
so the value is just weird
warm coyote
it adds 15 in the function but its not the whole function
swarms halves inside the function but its not the whole function
tired axle
so swarms tecnically halfs the droprates, but doesn't really do it in game
warm coyote
right
tired axle
alright
granite shard
caught on film: lemurian hits head on a rock and fucking explodes
rain trout
hey uh
was looking at the old console release trailer
and i can't for the life of me recognize what the hell this is hold on
tired axle
yeah?
granite shard
the thing at the end is old mithrix design im pretty sure
granite shard
thats what i've heard
rain trout
'cause i noticed the knife-looking things n i was kind of confused
granite shard
that or some sort of ancient wisp they didn tuse
rain trout
it has the signature providence + mithrix .. head.. shape
i mean ror1 and ror2 have different wisp bosses
granite shard
pretty sure it was mithrix and they redesigned him
not sure what else really
rain trout
grovetender would i guess
but that is. definitely not grovetender. and even if it was ancient wisp
it really wouldn't look like that. i dunno why they'd pick such a specific shape
tired axle
they already have a model for him
rain trout
it would be cool to know either what the hell that thing actually is or if it's a mithrix redesign what it even was
for ancient wisp?
tired axle
ye
granite shard
my guess is since mithrix was the king of nothing they eventually toned his design down a bit to me mroe similar to provi and a lot more minimalist
tired axle
btw when did ancient wisp get new attacks?
i'm pretty sure he only had his primery during artifacts
tired axle
granite shard
oh the mod
tired axle
no
granite shard
ohhh im dumb that's rogue wisp
tired axle
the one in the files
granite shard
im easily confused okay
not sure, mustve been between patches
maybe they reconsidered adding him?
tired axle
makes sense i guess
rain trout
ancient wisp ror2 model has a round head shape
thats mostly what made me think it wasnt it
tired axle
i really hope they still add him
same for grand parent
both seemed like fun bosses
some of the other survivors also got updated a bit
even han-d got a actual model for his m2
bandits flare actually deals damage now
bandit is actually really fun
warm coyote
its definitely not ancient wisp at all
ancient wisp is glowing
fire doesnt cast its own shadow
grizzled minnow
i've just had an "interesting" final phase mithrix moment
when he was nearly dead he gave me back my transcendence, which put him at half health 
luckily at that point i regained most of my items so i finished him off quite quickly, but i can imagine that being extremely annoying in a less fortunate circumstance
low helm
I know I posted this before, but this image is still menacingly looking at me in my pictures folder after I saved it...
what would you do
granite shard
trade everything into poglyps
then everything into plant
raven lichen
Desk plant good item
earnest kindle
Desk Plant is a very good item
velvet cradle
mmmm desk plant
frail prawn
I managed to gain the Loader class in less than 8 runs. I haven't played the game before today. Is that normal?
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dull ingot
yeah thats fine
I have only beaten Mithrix once post update, I can't believe how difficult and unfair it feels in his last phase.
The only time I beat him was because I had happiest mask and it procced on one of the Chimeras who then killed him, otherwise I wouldn't have made it.
Any tips?...
frail prawn
Had spent 20 minutes whittling the Alloy Unit's health away
thorny thistle
I did baby strats on mithrix and ran in circles while spamming royal capacitator (is that what its called?)
fiery brook
I have only beaten Mithrix once post update, I can't believe how difficult and unfair it feels in his last phase.
The only time I beat him was because I had happiest mask and it procced on one of the Chimeras who then killed him, otherwise I wouldn't have made it.
Any tips?...
@dull ingot
What i did most of the time is.
Try to get to him ASAP, without resets,
Get a good equipment, like the preon or the tonic
Most of the times i managed to beat him on moonsoon, i barely had any items
dull ingot
that's sounds really against my playstyle of getting powerful, how underwhelming
fiery brook
If you're good at dodging, giving him a lot of shaped glass and one shotting him is also viable
fiery brook
but if you wanna defeat him with a lot of items
just try to not get something that would make impossible to kill him
a tesla, for example
sly oxide
I have only beaten Mithrix once post update, I can't believe how difficult and unfair it feels in his last phase.
The only time I beat him was because I had happiest mask and it procced on one of the Chimeras who then killed him, otherwise I wouldn't have made it.
Any tips?...
@dull ingot get better at the game
or get that mod that makes him not use stolen items
faint vector
@dull ingot i finally got to his last phase on monsoon and i died to bleed
i hate dying to debuffs like you know its gonna happen all you can do is watch your health tick down
dull ingot
"Get better at the game"
Thanks, random person from the internet
rancid remnant
@dull ingot in my experience, capacitor and backup are great for mithrix, preon's good in the last stage when he's slow
strides of heresy or ion surge can get you on top of the pillars to cheese him
when the spinning line blast move comes, run toward it so you cross it instead of lining up
huntress's mobility and ballista are handy, arti can cheese easy, engi's turrets are great for pulling the aggro
dull ingot
Thanks
thats good advice, although i feel like some survivors definitely have it a lot harder on them
stable tiger
are there any mods that are up to date that improve artificer besides Extended Artificer?
rancid remnant
I think there's GlassCannonArti and NoNanoBombGravity, SolidIceWall, but not much else
pine iris
I think there's a mod that makes flame/plasma bolts travel faster
and you should install artificerextended anyway 
pine iris
ah
nag Rein on the modding discord to fix AlternativeArtificer
if they're still on it
warm coyote
artificer2 adds some cool extra stuff
its small but it counts
obviously a bigger change than nonanogravity, ion utility, or solid icewall
havent even heard of glasscannonarti
also
and also
rein is taking a break rn, i wouldnt bother him
and alt arti is on his todo list, the issue is that list is really really long
velvet cradle
I was doing a blind artifact unlock as artificer and I turned into the engineer for the rest of the run as soon as I reached bulwark's ambry
shit was funny
artifact of metamorphosis
rancid remnant
I want to play AE so bad but I just got a new pc and i want to be able to beat monsoon vanilla before installing mods.
most reliable survivor to beat mith on monsoon anybody?
zinc kernel
loader and artificer
warm coyote
loader by far
captain also has a pretty strong earlygame but it requires a little bit of effort
rancid remnant
closest I got was with mobile engi weirldy enough
warm coyote
loader gets the strong earlygame for free
rancid remnant
ima try with loader rn
gritty arrow
I think huntress is one also
unless u don't have her alternate R then its hard for her
gritty arrow
sry whats AE?
gritty arrow
ah ok
warm coyote
my mod
adds some skills
but the 2 new skills dont work because i tried new things and AHHH THEY ALL BROKE
in other news i made the meteor vfx smaller which is nice
gritty arrow
is it really hard modding?
warm coyote
depends on some factors
what kind of mod you make, your prior experience with coding
modding ror2 can be boiled down to 2 coding languages
C# which is nice and accessible and really fun
IL which is literally magic, people who can write IL can also read enchantment table, and its absolute hell
gritty arrow
XD
warm coyote
ironically i think most content mods require less IL than mods that actually change how parts of the game work
unless youre simply editing number values, which you can typically find in a prefab
and editing prefabs is super easy
gritty arrow
thx for the info
warm coyote
no prob
also some kinds of mods dont really require any coding experience at all
like if you want to make a skin pack then all you have to do is color some pngs
making a modpack is even easier, just copy the dependency string of all the mods you like and put it in the dependencies section of a manifest.json file
literally nothing else required
cant speak for other mods though because all ive done is add skills, edit prefabs, and hook onto the BuffCatalog buff registration to change a boolean variable to trhe
dont tell anyone, making skills is actually not very hard
if you can read and write a bit of C#, download dnspy, rip some code from other skills in the game and tweak it a little bit
its not cheating, its being resourceful, and im not even joking
i say theres no reason to reinvent the wheel, and other modders agree
slate ridge
@warm coyote is your mod downloadable on r2modman?
slate ridge
Nice
I'll get it
I just got all the achievements so I've been thinking about playing around with mods
warm coyote
😳
it adds 7 skills, soon to be 9 if i get off my lazy ass and fix my mod
2/4 primaries, 2 secondary, 2 utility, 1 special
why 4 primaries? because
dull rampart
this was fucked
raven lichen
Interesting discoveries, despite what I had been told, I just fought Mithrix and got my items back in a random order... Not in reverse order they were picked up, or normal order.
Also, after regaining infusions, they came back full. So infusion is fine against him, it comes back however you left it, it would seem.
Also infusion can stack past its maximum, presumably if you kill 2 things while at say 99, both orbs will give you health up.
cold bay
I hate too spam
But
People of this channel, could you plase enter VC4 because I am in need of help on how to play with my freind on risk of rain 1, we have two PC using the same internet in the same room.
raven lichen
If you are on steam just join via steam using the invite button. Make sure you are both online
cold bay
It doesn't seem to give me the option to invite, only invite to watch
raven lichen
If you click multiplayer, you should have little '+' in the top right
cold bay
To be clear I am talking about risk of rain one
cold bay
I'm not entirely sure what that means
raven lichen
You have to set up the port the game uses in your router settings to forward to your PC, assuming you are hosting
If you know your router/internet provider, you might be able to look up how to set up port forwarding. its a little different
cold bay
Are you able to explain in voice chat?
raven lichen
not currently, and im not even sure I would know how to set it up on your router exactly. Id probably just end up googling it aha
cold bay
Fuck
raven lichen
oh wait you said you are in the same room
i forget if you need to forward that
If you are plugged into/connected to the same internet you might be able to just do it with an internal IP
Its been a long time since i messed with this stuff haha
if you type cmd in start and open that up and type ipconfig
you should get a bunch of numbers, and you could host a server and try having your friend connect via ip to your ipv4 address
I dont remember if this works but it might
errant yew
damn the eclipse fights with merc are a struggle. all his third phase attacks are lethal when your iframes run out right before he does his slams that bypass osp, and i cant take my favorite build into the fight(tincture razor wire) since thats a death sentence on the last phase
it sucks when you are meleeing him and out of nowhere he goes for the spinning slam thing that is unavoidable when you are standing right on him
winged briar
wdym it’s a death sentence on the last phase?
errant yew
razor wire on a melee character
winged briar
isn’t razorwire blacklisted for mithrix?
gritty arrow
is it a must to take Visions and use Slicing Winds to kill mithrix?
it is blacklisted
winged briar
uhhh, it’s not a must if you abuse the hell out of your iframes? but it’s probably safer to go with visions and sw
errant yew
i just checked and its blacklisted. truth is i havent gotten a dub with merc on the new patch since ive been playing commando
winged briar
so yeah you can still run razorwire/tincture iced
gritty arrow
how do i abuse my iframes?