if you've a friend you play with who's "that guy" (takes all items for themselves) you can solve the problem with a mod that makes looted items apply to the whole team
#gd2-nullified
untold yarrow
shared suite is neat n all
but i find it too easy,
you loot alot quicker as a team so time management isn't nearly as important because you're almost forced to move apace with shared money/spawns
it is a good mod tho, pretty fun for some runs
peak shuttle
i wish there was some way to reliably get to runald/kjaro on aqueducts when solo
not playing engi*
polar anvil
captain
chrome hedge
Captain can't do that until next patch
polar anvil
Shush
vapid falcon
what skill does the most base damage?
errant seal
loader's utility? I guess
dull ingot
Is the seed for the prismatic trials good for any challenges today?
quasi temple
Is it feasible to stack gestures such that I can maintain 100% uptime on meteorite?
cloud oar
vapid falcon
permanent Massive Leech is really overpowered
quasi temple
I'd like to spice up a 4 player coop run at some point is all
I finally got to try meteorite and godamn that was great
vague mirage
im sure its very possible
fossil charm
you need 1 gesture and 8 fuel cells
any fuel cells can be replaced with extra gestures
quasi temple
O that's very doable, thanks
fossil charm
np
rotund tulip
Bruh
grave flame
Try #3, In multiplayer should one player be taking all of the death marks, tomes, daisies, and guillotines?
polar anvil
@grave flame there's no point in stacking all on one player,and daisies are team chared
rare heart
Permanent meteorite, stack crowbars, in multiplayer. Most fun guaranteed.
true portal
yall like frenzied leap for it's damage and recharge or acid leap for it's technically existing proc rate on the pool?
rare heart
acid leap! has better cooldown anyway.
true portal
base, but frenzy could techincally not need a cooldown if you hit a swarm
rare heart
You get three stacks of it anyway.
true portal
they both only have 2 stacks
blissful sandal
Does anyone know any fun command artifact builds?
nocturne nymph
100 Chronobaubles, Tritip Blades, Gasoline Canister, Acrid, and a singular DeathMark
blissful sandal
Sounds cool will do
true portal
stacking enough of anything that even the lowest proc coefficients still have 100% chance
enough Mk. missles to one shot Mithrax
brisk quiver
Edit: Fuck
chrome hedge
AtG Missiles and lots of 57 Leaf Clovers
errant seal
Eccentric Vase
rare fossil
After a week of having the game I finally got my first monsoon obliteration!
stuck meadow
congrats!
nocturne nymph
with who?
chrome hedge
Enforcer
nocturne nymph
FINALLY SOME1 THAT LIKES HER
rare fossil
;)
normal knot
Does each tick of Acrid's virus have a chance to proc on-hits?
rare fossil
No sadly
tired axle
poison can't proc
normal knot
Bummer. I didn't think so, but I was wondering and can't play right now.
frosty ice
hey guys where can i find this 
monster?
im new to the game
and i need to kill it for one of acrid´s abilities
frosty ice
thanks
reef heart
what's good on artificer
tired axle
runalds and kjaros band
normal knot
Yeee Arti with Bands, Blast Shower, Gestures/Fuel Cells, and Soulbound Catalyst
Ah you're a quicker typer lol
paper forum
Can you guys please help me make the ultimate tier list for solo engineer on monsoon?
tired axle
bungus
paper forum
really?
i was playing on Switch. I had all these debuff procs and stuff and i was getting single digit framerates. had to kill myself.
steel wind
granite shard
playing captain and evolution and monsters just got repulsion plate as their first two items C:
tired axle
you could also run sacrifice to increase the chance
forest fog
Is that an artifact
forest fog
I only have Honor and Command :v
dense pumice
Can confirm, Sacrifice increases chance of TC by a lot
peak shuttle
lord have mercy, i cant even function as mercenary on monsoon
then again im trying to use slicing winds but i just die immediately during the teleport event
tired axle
eviscerate is probably the safer option
peak shuttle
how do people get by without it?
tired axle
good question
peak shuttle
i can see how its better damage/better for reducing cooldowns but jesus christ i melt like butter
also is slamming still a thing? i have yet to be able to do it once
tired axle
it definatly still works
peak shuttle
is the placement generous or super precise?
peak shuttle
i've been trying on vagrants and no matter the angle it just bounces me off to the side
tired axle
nice
peak shuttle
i have yet to be able to survive stage 1 of monsoon though
maybe i should try without swarm lol
errant seal
swarm without AoE attacks is a pain
granite shard
if youre not on the right character swarms starts off a complete nightmare
commando is really who im thinking of, i think just about everyone else has some sort of AoE
sly oxide
stacking enough of anything that even the lowest proc coefficients still have 100% chance
@true portal no, not everything gains chance and thats not how hyperbolic stacking works
sly oxide
well not obviously since you said anything
in fact atg missiles cant get any proc chance
true portal
Yes we know
Flat 10% chance on those
But 300% damage each
A separate suggestion.
Why you pinging/quoting me like 4 hours later anyway?
Why even scroll up that far?
prisma fossil
Is there a spreadsheet or something for capped bleed per survivor/with clover?
sly oxide
it was just where i last left off in this chat
tired axle
for most survivors it's 7
true portal
Clover doesn't change the cap, just makes being below cap less consistently a fail
prisma fossil
oh ok cool thanks
dull ingot
with more tri tip daggers beyond 100% proc does the damage keep going up?
dull ingot
ty
latent cipher
rough sinew
I desperately want hopoo to redesign goku to make a character that plays like the mod so I can play it on console
peak shuttle
slamming feels like the most inconsistent thing in the world
i just got it on a bunch of bells but couldnt get it once on a vagrant OR awu
you're supposed to aim for the center of the mob, right?
remote raven
What kind of abilities you think paladin would have?
This are mi thoughts:
Primary: Providence sword
Second: Contact light scrap shield that blocks any damage while holding.
Utility:A charge attack that stuns enemies and deals more damage while holding secondary.
Special: Some kind of kill cinematic that turns one enemy an allied on kill during the stage.
broken ginkgo
Dude; you already posted that in disc1 pls don’t spam
dull ingot
graveyard
stoic matrix
i have royal capacitator and have 3 fuel cells. should i keep the fuel cells or trade them in for 3 kjaros bands (im loader)
very tough decision
im leaning on kjaros band, but i also want to beat mithrix and i need fuel cells for that
broken ginkgo
zenith temple
Does anyone know the best way to complete the prismatic trial without falling below 100% health on mercenary?
peak shuttle
follow cabbage's guide and pray for good rng
the current trial is really good because its glass
zenith temple
Ok Cabbage's guide I should be looking at though?
For just general trials I'm saying
worldly blade
I haven't touched Huntress ina while and I'm trying to play her on Monsoon with little success, what are her optimal skills and items?
vague comet
Veteran Friend: "NOOOO! You can't run double Rebar Puncher and use Retool to skip their reload time! Nail Gun is WAY better in the late game, the effectiveness of Rebar Puncher falls off quickly!!"
Me: "haha rebar go pew"
zenith kestrel
huntress' m2 is arguably one of the best in the game, so backup mags are a good idea on her
quasi temple
I've only been playing Huntress for a couple days, and with Command, so I'm not sure about optimal, but
I've been starting off stacking crit glasses and hoofs to ~7 ea; 2-3 mags; scythe, instincts, both bands, 2-3 stacks of ukulele and 3+ stacks of missiles; then going into tri-tip daggers, syringe, bears, brooches, and sticky bombs whose order i'm still figuring out
and like 10 wax quails and 2 feathers
zenith kestrel
since she can attack while sprinting rose buckler and energy drink are nice to see as well
quasi temple
oh, and chrono, gas, stun grenades, for a death mark - but i'm not terribly sure what the optimal build for this part is
worldly blade
Is her alt primary fire any good with lens amer glasses?
quasi temple
her alt primary is best, it's soo good once u stack some crit
dense pumice
Without crit, the normal m1 is better. With crit, alt m1 is better
worldly blade
So backup mags, crowbar, lens maker, prolly tri tip too
Is arrow rain better or ballista?
quasi temple
ballista imo
zenith kestrel
try to prioritize armour/barrier items over healing items with hunter, btw
there isnt really much to heal with her low starting health
quasi temple
yea i'd just take a single scythe early for healing
i feel like brooches do a lot more for me later
am I sleeping on armor? i feel like the flat reduction isn't so great for scaling
chrome hedge
Armor Repulsion Plate? yeah it doesn't scale well at all
Actual armor? It's decent: https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Armor
quasi temple
or bucklers
zenith kestrel
oh yeah repulsion plate sucks ass
quasi temple
i've been buying like 2-3 bucklers, but now i feel like i should get more
and some plates, even like 5-10 should make a decent difference for huntress later on?
dense pumice
Armor Plates are only important early on to pretty much completely negate wisps and any DOT effects. Blazing and Bleeding don't do much with a few armor plates.
frosty terrace
yeah early plates are nice, but stacking armor is real nice % reduction
have to be sprinting though, but most of the time you will be when trying to dodge
or if you have jade elephant up all the time, that's 83% reduced
pseudo dust
you ever get Mithrix to 5% hp on his last phase and die. i'm feeling that energy right now. 😩
bright palm
I was about to complain about plates, lol
arctic terrace
can they nerf mini shrooms enemy already
hard lily
why machalite bison swarm 
arctic terrace
or at least give their attack a sound effect like how loud the hermit crabs are
game needs better audio cues
elder lemurian doesnt have good audio cues either except for the fireball almost into your face
random laurel
cant believe i lost this run
lean ruin
Not enough teddies
rare heart
Not playing command, so seems legit.
rapid marsh
does stackign dagger stack damage or chance?
rapid marsh
how man for max chance?
rare heart
7, assuming a proc coefficient of 1.
Lowest non-zero proc coefficient is 0.5, so 14 in those cases.
rare heart
It's per-ability. Commando is a solid 1.0 across the board.
Tis one of his strengths, his ability to rapidly apply per-hit effects.
random laurel
you cant use artifacts on eclipse dude
random laurel
his attacks when he steals all your items?
tranquil heath
yeah
random laurel
the needles can be dodged just by running in a straight line
tranquil heath
i noticed they came back the first time but i was mid-jump the second time and they still hit me
random laurel
i find it way easier if you only pay attention to the orbs close by
80% of them dont even go near you
lean ruin
Does mithrix explode when he finishes sucking in your items?
random laurel
no
rare heart
Unless you're playing as samus, you get a chance to steal them back.
vague comet
I got Brilliant Behemoth as the second item in this Acrid run 
rare heart
Nice
vague comet
After a disappointing first item being Squid Polyp
rare heart
Pandemic, when spreading, will explode for each target infected.
Not for the dot, just the initial spread.
balmy gorge
Hello, everyone. I have a question: I've reached part of Mithrix fight, when he steals my items, I've unleashed 21 strikes from royal capacitor on him, he lost half of his health, countdown had started, I didn't receive my items, Mithrix remained ALIVE, somethig hit me and I died. Is it normal for Mithrix to become immortal after countdown started and one shot me?
rapid marsh
Why does the multiplayer lobby show me nothing but in-progress runs that i cant join anyway
vague comet
This is simultaneously the luckiest and unluckiest drops I've ever had in a run
(Notice: 4x Squid Polyps)
random laurel
think about how fast theyll be shooting
late root
wrong channel
i did a 
young zephyr
elder lemurian doesnt have good audio cues either except for the fireball almost into your face
@arctic terrace They shake the screen and make rumbling sounds when spawning. Otherwise, yeah, they are pretty silent, strong bastards
deep pecan
elder lemurians have a pretty distinct noise before they spit fireballs
pine iris
mithrix
dull ingot
looks like mithrix as the locked one, both lunar chimeras, and the alloy worship unit
mossy bone
u have to collect dropped logs
last eagle
No I know, but it's locked
With the lock icon, which disappears when you beat it. It's blacked out and not locked when you have beat it, which I have
dawn gyro
You can only unlock him by getting his log
narrow raptor
Drugs in this game are great
thorn oak
drugs are great until mithrix takes ur bong
narrow raptor
does he take the debuff ?
dull ingot
no
hollow galleon
you need like five fuel cells and gestures before you pick up tonic
so you don't get those debuffs
high crow
yes.
thorn oak
but then mithrix takes ur cells and suddenly you cant do drugs anymore
hollow galleon
ohko him before it happens
high crow
yea lol
thorn oak
then the 20-200 stacks of drug withdrawal symptoms show up
hollow galleon
picking up spinel tonic is the same as vowing to strategize into oneshotting everything
tepid wolf
Tonic can get wild
high crow
ho boy
hollow galleon
if you get more than two stacks of withdrawal at any time, you're doing tonic wrong
tepid wolf
Using tonic without permanent downtime is dangerous idea
A few seconds of downtime max
zenith temple
Ok but have you ever tried Royal Capacitor with no cooldown so it just instakills
hollow galleon
ever tried foreign fruit
zenith temple
You wouldnt be able to die
high crow
nah man, stack bands, and get infinite blast shower
zenith temple
That I have done before holy crap
pine iris
cap's one of the few chars who doesn't benefit too much from atk speed
although, speeding up projectile deletion is fun
hearty violet
wonder what i was messing for dmg. Usually stage 9 these guys would die in 5sec
hollow galleon
@high crow darn...
hearty violet
just use it before you charge the punch
hollow galleon
but the strategy they mentioned isnt available to loader
high crow
oh RIP
hollow galleon
speaking of loader, what could we add to her skills? i'm always trying to conceptualize from her current ones.
dual wielding grapples? rocket fists? ...a meaty hulkbuster knuckleboom instead of the current eelslap?
her primary hasn't ever felt like her "primary", but getting rid of shield on hit wouldn't be a good trade for anything else, either.
lapis cosmos
hollow galleon
hello there, discussion 2 is empty
no-one wants to talk about loader 
sharp atlas
Are we arguing over here too or no
hollow galleon
i sense no bad vibes in this vicinity
sharp atlas
We need to give loader a shoryuken
sharp atlas
Give loader raging demon
hollow galleon
i've noticed it's pretty hard to change direction of your momentum once you're swinging around a vagrant
dense bolt
Ok so, missiles seem to constantly be missing enemies for me
Like their turn speed seems to be much worse now for some reason
Anyone else experiencing this?
still needle
no
dense bolt
Like they sometimes just turn for no reason in the air or just constantly are circling around enemies and never hit them
thorny anvil
still needle
i wouldnt go that far
i like to say safe stuff
so i'd say it fires at least like 8
true portal
friend saw his first seqencer on his way to escape pd
2 rows of items became 89 rusted keys
he died
still needle
ah.
poor dude learned the hard way
like all of us
i once turned 40 fungi and a ton of other god items on engi with nkahanas into 200 energy drinks, 100 fuel cells and 17 rejuv racks
maiden remnant
Shrine of order will fuck you up but it's too good to resist
bright palm
I had a doll so this was fun until I thought I could live through three vagrant explosions all at once
tired juniper
eee i love it when void fields spawn brass contraptions with glasses and crowbars
quasi temple
i finally got to stack permanent meteors, it was a glorious bonus difficulty
my teammates might not have survived for 3 rounds before i switched to tonic D:
quasi temple
deal 2 billion damage
hollow badge
yes, so simple
green topaz
What boss is it
hollow badge
final boss
hollow badge
past the limit?
green topaz
There's no limit....
hollow badge
his health is literally negative
green topaz
So you're in a god run
hollow badge
yesnt
green topaz
After a while all the numbers become so big that they collapse on themselves and become negative
hollow badge
yeah im suffering from that
ive spent a hour or so just completelly waiting the boss to die
im imortal and so he is
green topaz
Yeah, his health scaling is beyond huge
hollow badge
yes
green topaz
Gl on the item phase
hollow badge
bruh
green topaz
What...?
royal pivot
green topaz
You might be dead.... depends on how good your run is
hollow badge
i mean, i still got 5 dio's
tired juniper
oh ffs not being able to aim straight down is really annoying
hollow badge
?
true portal
my friend is in an artifact trial and he says it keeps healing?
waxen girder
hollow badge
im not even playing anymore
im just standing still and doing damage
i got 6 "gesture of the drowned" with more 29 fuel cells so...
plus all the dio's, 106 tt and about 60 reactive armour
hallow fractal
just get 20 shaped glass before fighting mithrix
hallow fractal
lmao
green topaz
I hope you were joking...
hallow fractal
but it decreases his health
so long as you don't pick up a tesla or little disciple
green topaz
But when you're actually fighting the dude you're done for
No osp, at 2 digit max health
hallow fractal
just don't get hit
green topaz
hallow fractal
played captain with one hoppo feather on a run, no other mobility items. he did 0 damage to me until the last phase. at which point he took my little disciple and blew me up with the wisps he spewed out at me
rip
green topaz
I'll give my personal info to anyone that gives video evidence of them killing mithrix with 20 glass and no hopoo feathers
hallow fractal
huntress and acrid would probably have a pretty smooth time
green topaz
Actually you know what crecendo might be able to do that.... nevermind
hallow fractal
although acrid would be super awkward
frozen heath
any news when a patch is coming?
neon dagger
No, but you can check out the test branch.
clever summit
any guide on how to get irradiant pearl effectively?
young prairie
Keep playing
modern monolith
pray
also who needs hopoo feathers when you've got chrysalis, fuel cells, and a gesture
clever summit
does difficulty affect pearl vending machine?
young prairie
No
neon dagger
No.
clever summit
it seems only spawn on third stage
neon dagger
clever summit
wish me luck bois 
subtle sigil
Enigma + sacrifice. When you get a pool, you can reroll use items into lunars to sacrifice
dull ingot
hey someone can help me getting an upgrade to huntress?
shy stratus
does anyone know how you actually scale the artificers damage for end game?
I was using command artifact to run a dagger, wisp, crowbar build with standard defences but the moment elites become too strong to kill you start dropping off hard
@dull ingot which upgrade?
chrome garnet
Broke a run... Was playing Mul-T and had Primordial Cube on alt switch with 14 fuel cells and a gester. we had only one enemy spawn and it was greater wisps. when we started portal i switch to Primordial Cube and relese all 15 in one second! and that many of them make Greater wisp rubber band into space at the speed of sound!!
They did not die and where stuck sooooo far out there was nothing we can do so we had to bail 😦
shy stratus
yeah thats the best and worst of this game is that there are no limiting parameters on whats possible so the further you go the more likeley you are to soft lock or crash the game
clever summit
while hunting pearl i stumbled upon infinite flight mode using milky and enigma, is this considered a bug?
untold yarrow
like you activated milky and got the flight, but it switched items and left you flying?
if so, then yes that's a bug
vital quail
Which of Rex's secondary is better? Seed Barrage?
shy stratus
ahh it appeared i died because happiest mask cloned a voidreaver
that item trueley is a sandbag isnt it?
does the void implosion ignore bears?
spare valve
void implosion ignores everything. it is coded as an instakill for friends and foes alike
doesn't even do damage, just an actual instakill
shy stratus
so that explains why i was indestructable except for when i wasnt
i was on drizzle with command artifact and had 10 bears
ah well its one more death to unlocking please forgive me
carmine gyro
seed barrage is cool and all but i prefer directive drill
sacred iris
are celestial portals still a thing for 1.0? for if I want to obliterate and use beads of fealty
carmine gyro
they are
sacred iris
when do they spawn again?
carmine gyro
as usual on third stage post first loop
sacred iris
ty
btw that book on bulwark ambry
it's always there... am I doing something wrong?
is there like a log for every trial?
untold yarrow
certain environment logs are always spawned, like the one below the bazaar. bulwark is another, as is the one in golden shores
pretty sure|| moon level||'s is also one
safe pawn
I've tried five times or so and couldn't find those.
forest fog
Just got the Imp event on Delta
Thought It was fucking Reavers because of the flavor message holy shit
Had a heart attack until I saw Imps zipping around
untold yarrow
lol
i don't think i've ever gotten the imp event
wisp and golem a bunch
might just not remember. /shrug
forest fog
ive had lemurians and lunar chimeras before as well
minor star
hey could someone send me a screenshot of the complete monster logbook trying to see what ive missed and the net ones havent been updated
low shell
Mornin gamers
hard cargo
oak crest
how many hoof do i need to get to 300mph on loader
mossy narwhal
this is like the fifth one I've ever gotten
sharp zenith
Mithi's 4th phase is giving me an aneurism
clever summit
At last getting the Pearl 
nimble lichen
I finally beat the game on monsoon with loader last night. Loader FTW!
lol I got that pearl the first I time interacted with a cleansing pool this update.
clever summit
yea its on 40-ish pearl, for its drop rate im kinda unlucky
wary dragon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/733391650579152900/749299714544894032/unknown.png?width=1166&height=658 ayyyyyyyyyyyyy
granite shard
ughhhh im playing evolution and they got dios twice by stage 10...
not cool, im not even at risk theyre immune longer than they're alive...
worldly blade
Uh, i need some help, i entered a game with some russian dude in it, and after a bit he, without asking, unlocked every skin, skill log entry, artifact in the game. Im absolutely pissed, and worst of all, the skin and skill achievements didn't register. What do i do now?
hearty violet
loader 100% broken!
granite shard
Uh, i need some help, i entered a game with some russian dude in it, and after a bit he, without asking, unlocked every skin, skill log entry, artifact in the game. Im absolutely pissed, and worst of all, the skin and skill achievements didn't register. What do i do now?
@worldly blade i dont think you can ununlock things outside of making a new profile and starting over
like, in-game
if you do the achievement you'll still get the achievement im pretty sure
granite crag
If you on pc you can go in and change the files yourself
granite shard
If you on pc you can go in and change the files yourself
@granite crag forgot about that lol
yeah you can just unedit the files to what you had
nimble lichen
@worldly bladeGo to the drive you have steam installed.
Steam> userdata>whatever number>632360>remote>UserProfiles
and edit that in notepad++ idk how to edit the file from there but thats how you get to it.
solemn ingot
Guys I unlocked all items/skills 
what now
nimble lichen
beat the game
solemn ingot
Is there any incentive to push rounds past 20 for any reason? Other than monster logs
nimble lichen
just to see how long you can go before the game dies or you do.
young prairie
Do eclipse if you haven't ig
glacial vault
Piercing wind is easy to get this prismatic if you follow the guide
Even without it, not too horrendous
There's a broach printer and saws for example
primal valley
is there any way to continue after killing mithrax?
restive aspen
No
faint vector
i had hardlight afterburner and 2 bands on loader
granite shard
omg ive been in the stupid ambry for 10 minutes and no keys
no purity or anything
just waiting for keys while instakilling lemurians
this is really really dull lol
faint vector
died to a random ass fucking elder lemurian who one shot me DURING SHIFT ATTACK
granite shard
THERE WE GO
game spawned a whole ass stone titan on a 25 min ambry which finally dropped a key
that was insanely dull, i just spent 10 straight minutes pressing R once every 30 seconds
modest trout
Anyone have tips for beating the game on monsoon?
mental flax
hey I have a question about Captain
Watching my brother play and for some reason the shift and R abilities aren't able to be cast
he's donig the void cells
wild falcon
hey I have a question about Captain
@mental flax it's because he can't reach his ship from the void so those abilities tied to his ship are blocked
mental flax
oh ok. thanks!
lilac spoke
why does everybody swear by the immobile turrets anyway
the walking laser turrets might not be strong but i love them.
they feel very lively.
loud scroll
theyre just worse like objectively
deep veldt
they aint bad
they are actually the only part i enjoy about engi, i dont like area lockdown so mobile turrets are more fun and seeing how they are both viable who cares about dmg
dull ingot
are there any particular items builds that make it easy to get past stage 20?
quaint spade
Same I played my first monsoon game a few hours ago and got destroyed in stage two lol
dull ingot
lol, I've had the game for about a week now, and I've unlocked every character there is for now
i play on the switch for context
wait, maybe two weeks
granite shard
god i can't wait for mithrix last phase to get changed
it just feels so horrid to play against as-is
literally killed in one hit
really not sure how they're gonna make it at all fair though
runic briar
do folks generally attempt mithrix at the end of the 1st loop or go for a 2nd?
nimble locust
You have to nuke him before he nukes you
Just kill him while he’s yoinking your shit
granite shard
If you can’t kill him it’s basically unwinnable so you have to be really confident
eternal parrot
Hmmm, I havn't had many issues with stage 4 with loops. There arepretty consistent strats for gettin gthrough stage 4
runic briar
What rough timeline should I aim for to start the fight? Like 25-30 minutes in?
dawn gyro
Sooner is always better, as the difficulty is lower, though you might run the risk of not having enough items ||(which I supposed may be a good thing, considering he takes your stuff in the last phase)||
runic briar
Yeah, I've been aiming for 3-4ish minutes stage 1 and 2, 4-5ish for stage 3 and 5-6ish for stage 4 and 5 as rough benchmarks to make sure I'm also looting enough items
I'm still not great at itemization, as far as balancing offense and defense/movement
blissful steeple
wanton geyser
👌 😂 🔫
celest tinsel
are there any mods that make drones less stupid
dense pendant
did desk planbt get buffed?
safe vapor
vague comet
Consider the following:
-Mod that replaces Mithrix with Smash Bros' Master Hand
tranquil halo
yall ever have a really good monsoon run going with a character youve never played and then a fire parent teleports on top of you as your going to the teleporter
moment
manic mesa
shrewd sleet
feelsbad
frosty terrace
Just kill him while he’s yoinking your shit
@nimble locust won't work in the next patch. He's immune to damage while taking your items. Nuking him isn't an option so better not loop and either face boss early or obliterate if you do decide to loop
quaint spade
How much time do you all do for each stage on monsoon
pine iris
no, you can still loop easy
frosty terrace
no
verbal walrus
Is woodsprite a good equipment?
untold yarrow
early game, yes, beyond like level 4-5, not so much
verbal walrus
i got another question
on MUL-T
having 2 woodsprites while doing the 2 railgun and Retool spam, would that be good?
stable tiger
whats gonna be my best build on acrid? Acrid is really fun (and visually my favorite) character and i wanna get the mastery skin and learn how to properly play them
stable tiger
i meant item build
verbal walrus
oh
> 
. 
is also good, 8 
are good with 
. 
is good as well. stack 
aswell, you can go 
since he is best played as a ranged survivor. can also play him with 
and 
stacks, 
are very good, Vision of hersy is also good since youre not melee @stable tiger
stable tiger
8? d ont I want all 10?
verbal walrus
you never want 10
stable tiger
why not? isnt that autocrit
verbal walrus
since and 
give 5% each
so you want at max 9
and 8 since you will probably pickup one extra later and you only gain a relative of 5% extra damage for the last one
and also shatterspleen is good as well
stable tiger
is there any (viable) fun loadout
verbal walrus
this is a vid showing a bit but i dont know more (also i would recommend that youtuber)
@stable tiger do you have changed your items.txt and equipment.txt?
polar anvil
@verbal walrus did you just say eng drink is better than hoof,cuz that's plain wrong(except for first stack)
stable tiger
hoof does 14%, drink does 20
verbal walrus
you say that because of the woolie vid @polar anvil right?
verbal walrus
lmao
stable tiger
also whats the best items.txt mod
verbal walrus
its not a mod
stable tiger
all the 2019 ones likely dont have the 2020 stuff
verbal walrus
@polar anvil energy drink doesnt make your spring faster!
verbal walrus
it changes the amount in % of how much your sprint is faster than your nonsprint
the boost you get from sprinting, thats what energy drink does
polar anvil
Yeah,and
20% in sprint over 14% in walk and 20.2% in sprint
stable tiger
i like not being fast af for my walking speed
verbal walrus
it makes the amount your sprint is faster compared to your walking speed more
lets say youre 10m/s fast while walking and have a 1,5 multiplier while sprinting
energy drink makes the 1,5 multiplier to 1,8 and +20% the extra stacks
polar anvil
(1.0+0.14)x1.35
1.0x1.55
verbal walrus
the first stack is 30%
polar anvil
Ok,1.0x1.65
stable tiger
ok edited
finite swallow
sprint is x1.45
verbal walrus
ok edited
@stable tiger i can give them to you too if you want, i edited the mtoo
stable tiger
i have the edited versions now
stable tiger
back to acrid build is there any decent melee acrid build especially for monsoon
finite swallow
the tooltip says its +30%, but in actuality it increases your speed by 0.207 only when sprinting
sharp canyon
Acrid melee doesn't perform the best outside of first loop since he has nothing to mitigate the damage from being in melee. Loader gets innate small amounts of barrier, Merc gets iframes and mobility, Acrid's got nothing
verbal walrus
and with loader youre only meele for a short amount
stiff cove
shoutout to all 5 of you mul-t mains i cannot stand playing them
polar anvil
Calling loader melee is like calling mul-t saw ranged
verbal walrus
xD
polar anvil
Am i wrong tho?
verbal walrus
shoutout to all 5 of you mul-t mains i cannot stand playing them
@stiff cove i like playing everyone becides commando tbh
sharp canyon
Fist hit face, don't matter if it's at 300mph from across the map 
deep pecan
@stable tiger Item-wise or ability-wise?
stiff cove
commando is boring but he doesnt control funny like mul-t
verbal walrus
utem wise seagull
copper wing
ngl it's pretty sad acrid only gets healing on his third hit while loader gets it every hit :/
deep pecan
It's like loader is broken in half or something
polar anvil
As if loader uses her m1
verbal walrus
i think if you play his short range second ability then it should change the first ability to also do heal on every hit
stable tiger
item and ability
deep pecan
anyway, Hopoo Feathers, Ukulele, and Repulsion Plate are the ones I'd specifically prioritize higher with Bite equipped
stable tiger
alright
deep pecan
Honestly there's not a ton of difference
You want hooves, energy drinks, focus crystals, slugs, atg, ect no matter what skills you pick
ability wise, poison is better than blight and frenzied leap is better than caustic leap
spit is better than bite, but bite is more satisfying and since you asked about melee acrid I assume you're going for bite anyway
remember that Acrid is a hybrid character and should never be played purely at range or purely melee
sharp canyon
Caustic is better imo unless you consistently hit 2 or more enemies with Frenzied
deep pecan
caustic is better if you're one of those people who unironically buys into the "acrid is ranged" meme and only use your shift to run away
Frenized is far, far stronger if you want to deal damage
pine iris
I like Frenzied until I get permatonic and 10 hooves
then it becomes a mobility tool for me
because using Frenzied to try to attack a wisp and launching yourself into the skybox is bad
sharp canyon
I tend to grab hardlights+clovers and leave pools everywhere for extra proc chances bc meme
deep pecan
oh yeah, one more thing about bite acrid: don't be afraid to buy a gunner drone on stage one
unless you're playing multiplayer in which case the other players will clear wisps for you
sharp canyon
Inflict Poison 1000 times for the unlock
azure patio
can some one help me with r2modman plz
slim raptor
Fun fact:
Acrid is so thicc, that he cannot fire the crowdfunder down without hitting himself.
slim raptor
The money gun.
Look at this shit.
I’m aiming slightly down.
And the crowdfunder is hitting me.
I need to get that custom item loadout mod so I can test out more shit like this.
And actually record it with OBS or something.
stable tiger
so wait how extensive is modding in this game
tired juniper
so uh
i may have had a pepega brain m oment
was having a very nice run
very suddenly ended when i tried to headstomp an alloy worship unit right as it fired
didn't have teddy bears :c
ashen sapphire
stable tiger
how do i see how close i am to frenzied leap
solemn ingot
is there a way to get multiplayer lobbies to show in the modded version? or do you have to manually group
sharp canyon
Truffle, I'm gonna guess in Logbook -> Challenge -> Acrid: Easy Prey on page 7. If there's not a progress bar, just keep playing and spam Epidemic and Neurotoxin
stable tiger
hows this seem for an acrid loadout
Soldier's Syringe
Lens Maker's Glasses
Goat Hoof
oop not done
dull ingot
You should actually be getting things like Ukelele, will o the wisp / gasoline, tritips, crits and heals
Acrid shouldn't be attacking with M1 cos he doesn't need to
dusk fractal
what m1?
dull ingot
Like late game the acrid loop is just spamming M2 and R
stable tiger
Tri Tip Dagger
Medkit
Backup Mag (not super focused)
Focus Crystal
Fresh Meat
Repulsion plate
Hopoo Feather
Ukulele
Leech Seed
Fuel Cells (with BFG or Royal Capac)
Meathook
Rejuv Rack
Shatterspleen
Genesis Loop
Im doing a melee build cuz screw projectile spam
dull ingot
Then pick someone else
stable tiger
I paid for the whole dummy thicc lizard im gonna use the whole dummy thic lizard
i mean im still gonna use ranged but its no fun without melee
dusk fractal
paid???????
dull ingot
I paid for the whole X I'm gonna use the whole X
stable tiger
also IK i should get frenzied leap imma work on that soon
dull ingot
Jokes are like frogs, if you have to dissect them theyre no fun
stable tiger
its a joke like "I paid for the whole speedometer I'm gonna use the whole speedometer"
well first
whats the cheesiest most op build i can cheese through monsoon with
i wanna get the oblit for the alt cuz alt is way better
sharp canyon
I highly recommend Topaz Brooch and Tougher Times over Fresh Meat and Medkit. Also going Lens Makers+Harvester Scythe will provide you with much more healing than Leech Seed.
stable tiger
i cant get harvesters rn
locked behind prisma trial which is the stupidest rn
just how can I omega cheese monsoon, any build with acrid
dull ingot
Bleeds, topaz, bears, slap in some reds
Go sacrifice and swarms and command, go into void realms and farm items forever
stable tiger
whats the best reds for that?
sharp canyon
Go to the pin in #prismatic-trials and look at the ethereal vid that Cabbage posts for easy completions of the trials.
stable tiger
also just bleeds topaz and reds?a
I tried doing it it didn't work cuz i dont get the bfg like he does
dull ingot
are you on console
dull ingot
have you tapped the shrine twice
stiff wind
does anyone play on ps4
sharp canyon
That specific chance shrine should always give you preon in the same order
sharp canyon
Prismatic trials are set seeds that have the exact same items, Shrine of Chance sequences, etc every time.
stable tiger
also how does cabbage get the double dash
stiff wind
like ps4?
sharp canyon
@stiff wind ps4 has a different seed than pc due to different update scheduling. Also, if you're looking for ps4 there's #lfg-playstation-ror2
stiff wind
yo thanks
sharp canyon
If you hit an enemy (or crystal) with dash it refreshes it
stable tiger
and i died
sharp canyon
Preon comes from second buy from Chance
slim raptor
@Եղժօ ♜#9448 it allows you to start with any items you want. Useful for testing stuff.
Especially since I have 100% achievements so I can’t exactly cheat with it.
sharp canyon
@stable tiger if you watch the video he dashes through the time crystals past their aoe explosion
That and uses r for the invincibility frames
slim raptor
Your first red not being clover was one.
And two... did you do metamorphosis artifact in the ambry at some point?
graceful summit
i was going for his alt skin and didnt know that metamorphosis would change me then leave me as that charecter once i left the ambry
pearl sage
thorn plover
Hey guys is 50 stages overkill on a god run
slim raptor
20 stages tend to be the stopping limit because after that, you aren’t really stopping unless you let yourself.
There comes a point where teleporters no longer spawn a boss to kill and instead just spawns enemies I believe.
Which is usually around the 20 mark.
stiff cove
so is it possible to get good runs to stage 20 if your laptop practically shits itself once the overloading worm along with 200 other enemies spawns and kills you instantly at stage 14
at low graphics
because i feel like it probably isnt
slim raptor
Yes
graceful summit
after about stage 75 i stopped getting anything but the occasional scavenger
also still going strong
i cant wait to see my damage delt tbh im ticking in the millions
graceful summit
he got me finally got a lucky shot i cri
dull ingot
there is a distinct lack of elder lemdog discussion here
stable tiger
so with Acrid whats my best option for cheese build?
dull ingot
nah your best option for cheese is the elder lemdog
granite crag
Acrid is probably just basic load out since poison is dummy good
narrow badger
i just wanted to be fast and play the game afk
bitter scaffold
do ice elite dmg ignore one shot
my friend went from full health on captain to dead
instantaneously
and on such a good run too god damn it
peak shuttle
3 reds by stage 4, and they're all great 😭
its taking pity on me for yesterdays awful runs
bitter scaffold
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/527299126241787934/749528629142356019/unknown.png
this was my friends item collection
i assure you, mine was just as nuts as theirs
oh and they also had dios
and most of these reds cam from the first 3 stages
i got tesla and doomba on first stage on my first 2 chests
rare thicket
peak shuttle
drops were fucking bonkers for how short the run was
i kept having to remind myself i was playing vanilla lmao
literally got a red every stage
and they were all beautifully meta on merc
polar anvil
@pearl sage how much glass
pearl sage
I can’t remember exactly but over 20
half tendon
guys guys
lets start a fight over nothing
i say arti and huntress are best survs and rest are trash
cedar dawn
no
chrome ingot
no
half tendon
goddamit
dull ingot
o.O
half tendon
18 razorwires dude what the hell
random laurel
there were 2
half tendon
Got em?
half tendon
Well you set your gaze on one so its one left
random laurel
no i died
half tendon
You get em next time
granite shard
just went to 10 bazaars in a row to try and find the beads of fealty and they didn't show up once
minimum of two defiant gouges in every single one, of course
but no beads :I could do with more items in the shop tbh because finding any given one is just impossible sometimes
pearl sage
mult and acrid r best
frosty dirge
Whoa nevermind this place is dead
dire ocean
I am gamer now. I've redeemed myself
south stratus
i have yet to be a gamer, 23 achievement left
junior locust
is there any character other than huntress that can bypass closed stone doors without items
tidal reef
Loader can go around
junior locust
oh right loader i havent tried him yet thank
lusty saddle
i have so many reds. oneshot is eminent
lusty saddle
i also have a mod installed where all drones and turrets inherit items, so currently i have very many squid turrets that have a couple fungi with n'kuhana
it definitely does play itself after i open a chest or two
junior locust
oh wow they actually nerfed huntress' ability to skip the ||aqueduct door|| by making the ||lemurian pair not spawn||
mossy garden
literally everybody could do this with enough movement
Merc, Huntress, Commando, Loader and Acrid could do with simply their mobility
junior locust
without items?
dull elm
em... I am confused https://i.imgur.com/eOaPMsf.png
nobody from my party got it, just me (beta branch)
of course it's not even showing up in logbook
olive sky
I mean, they were in the first game and their model is technically in this one, so who knows, they may be added in the future
Or its just a bug for you
Probably a bug
dull elm
yup
olive sky
I’ve never actually been on the beta branch but i’d assume its pretty buggy
stoic geyser
dull elm
fixed bugs
steep acorn
if playing merc go for beta branch there bug fixes for him
untold yarrow
@dull elm looks like a id drop bug, one of the normal mobs is being identified as clayman by name and tied to it's monster log
claymen are fully functional, i use them in my modpacks
dull ingot
Big yickes
limber ice
dull ingot
what should be my item progression with huntress running command artifact
slender current
was it always the case that strides of heresy lets artificer fly up while using it? its kinda insanely good
steep acorn
yea u can fly w/o surge with strides
slender current
was it always the case though? I dont remember that being possible last patch. but I didnt play a lot of artifcer before 1.0
only played her a lot on beta release
steep acorn
yea i think so
stable tiger
is it possible to do a viable acrid melee build?
steep acorn
if you use command otherwise not really
stable tiger
i mean who doesn't lmao
"is it possible to do a viable ___ build"
not without command
steep acorn
its more viable than double power saw mult at least
stable tiger
lmao yrue
steep acorn
the lowest bar in game
stable tiger
also is double railgun mult good?
it seems broken/bugged
theres no way it was intended
steep acorn
it scales worse since no atk spd can help
but its great for going straight to mithrix and putting rebars in his head
stable tiger
but what would be good for acrid melee?
steep acorn
could maybe do a discount loader thing going on
where instead of 100% barrier u proc regen a lot with m2 and m1
stable tiger
for defensiveness idk but for attack am i correct I want:
harvester's scythes
crit glasses (8)
shatterspleen
titanic knurl
meathook/tesla coil
royal capacitor
tri tip daggers
syringes
steep acorn
focus crystal too
stable tiger
ooh yeah that
but my thought is with the syringe if I hit fast enough i'm applying bleed every time
i'd need speed too
also what about Captain? he seems interesting
i've heard captain is busted with bleed builds
steep acorn
captains m1 is very strong procs a lot bleeds a lot
strange elm
Captain has the highest proc coefficient in the game. He's nuts.
upbeat gorge
Reminder that captain needs 9 tri tips for 100%, not 7
strange elm
But kinda bad in hidden realms, as his utility doesn't work.
Yeah.
Or just use Shatterspleen.
And crit glasses.
upbeat gorge
And then 9 glasses predatory and scythe
strange elm
Yeah.
upbeat gorge
But you know... Shatterspleen stacks with tri tip
strange elm
Yeah, but I prefer to pick up crits, stickys, medkits, and bears if possible.
I don't care to much about syringes.
Oh, and I pick up goat hoofs.
Or hooves?
Stupid grammar.
upbeat gorge
Syringes do a lot for captain, but since a crit means all of the pellets are crits instincts becomes way better
strange elm
Yeah.
upbeat gorge
Since you can get max instincts in one crit
upbeat gorge
Cya!
upbeat gorge
I'd give the admiral mod a shot if you are fine with modding
stable tiger
not yet
upbeat gorge
Admiral makes captain way more well rounded, while keeping him powerful
It just spreads the power between all skills
stable tiger
interesting
upbeat gorge
It is, but you're better off playing anyone else
stable tiger
is there a mod for acrid?
upbeat gorge
Greater acrid is really good imo, let's you choose abilities mult style
steep acorn
think theres a mod buffing blight
upbeat gorge
So you put bite on m1, normal attack on m2, or double bite, etc
think theres a mod buffing blight
@steep acorn general fixes does but that also comes with a lot of other changes and barely any config options
AFAIK it's the only one that touches blight and is updated for 1.0
stable tiger
if there is an acrid mod like admiral mod i will take it
upbeat gorge
As I said, greater acrid is quite good but its not as big in features and changes as admiral
Flood warning will probably change acrid in the future but that's a full modpack at this point
stable tiger
i dont wanna do anything too heavy
hoary jay
Hey guys i wanna get a mod for a new character ? which character mod it's the most fun ? who do you enjoy to play as ?
steep acorn
i like sniper
stable tiger
acrid is my favorite looking character in the game
upbeat gorge
@hoary jay bandit reloaded, enforcer (not released yet, dm me for link ), twitch, aatrox, han-d (also not released yet) and maybe sniper
stable tiger
so no big acrid mod tho
upbeat gorge
Nope
stable tiger
damn shame, visually acrid is my favorite character
upbeat gorge
Akali is good ive heard, only played like 10 minutes though
Also mithrix is being worked on but I've yet to test it
Miner is amazing but it's not out for 1.0 yet
Favorite rn is enforcer or bandit reloaded
steep acorn
where providence mod at
upbeat gorge
Soon™️
stable tiger
the profaned goddess?
upbeat gorge
Paladin is also in the works and chef has a full model
Made by El cocinero https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739702628279255091/749151873398997052/unknown.png
They did an amazing job on that, so go give them praise
upbeat gorge
Loader
stable tiger
i dont like loader
upbeat gorge
In general
stable tiger
like
upbeat gorge
Play her like a ranged character, don't use m1, rely on shift for damage
stable tiger
she does so little damage and no range
steep acorn
are you not charging your shift
and/or are you not using m2 to get movespeed to make shift do more damage
upbeat gorge
Anyways try double rebar mult, switch key binding for r and m2, hold m2 and m1
stable tiger
oh double rebar MulT is fun
upbeat gorge
Yes
stable tiger
ive heard shes basically suicidal
copper wing
late game loader with enough speed can chonk bosses for like 20k
copper wing
It's a plant/robot so
It is a safe bet.
And yeah, she is real good, just manage your hp
steep acorn
til u get items u just have to accept ur gonna be like half hp most of the time
upbeat gorge
Anyways yeah, Rex is suicidal but very powerful, make sure to keep your r up at all times and use m2 for damage
steep acorn
but in exchaneg u have turbo dps
upbeat gorge
Merc with the ranged attack is pretty good now
copper wing
I'd argue if you can play merc right, he's one of the better characters atm
with slicing winds that is
upbeat gorge
Definitely, he's just hard to play
copper wing
good for procs, good base damage, great mobility, armor. Kind of like a harder more consistent loader.
well and he can proc stuff
copper wing
and he's less tanky, k maybe he isn't like loader.
upbeat gorge
My tierliest would be
captain loader merc
Rex huntress mult
Acrid ranged commando
Acrid melee
stable tiger
everyone can do engineer
upbeat gorge
And engineer doesn't exist
mild brook
He's one of the strongest survivors
steep acorn
is that tier list for looping, for just going to kill mithrix, or what
copper wing
loaders only real downside played right is he's kinda bad vs mithrix
or well, more specifically, he can easily get into positions where the mithrix fight takes a year
olive sky
My personal tierlist is huntress, loader, captain, acrid, rex, mul-t, engineer, commando, the merc
upbeat gorge
Engi is strong, very strong. But I hate him so I refuse to acknowledge his existence
steep acorn
his alt shift is bad vs mithrix but original shift is very safe
copper wing
....I knew that, but man I always forget.
upbeat gorge
Disagree with merc being bottom tier, if this was difficulty to play I agree
steep acorn
acrid is really good for not bothering with looping and just going to kill mithrix
olive sky
I just personally feel like he’s the least consistent character
upbeat gorge
You underrated mult imo too
stable tiger
engineer is busted
olive sky
When it comes to getting consistently good runs
upbeat gorge
Rest is fine
stable tiger
hes so easy to break
steep acorn
when it comes to consistently killing mithrix no matter the items, well
someones beaten eclipse 8 on acrid with no items/equips/drones
upbeat gorge
I just find acrid boring and bad for loops
olive sky
Well acrid is a god against bosses
steep acorn
the max hp is so good
copper wing
Mercenary is real consistent actually, he doesn't really need anything to do well
olive sky
With poison
stable tiger
acrid melee seems fun
upbeat gorge
And my tierliest was for general play, which means both looping and mithrix
stable tiger
syringes + bleed build + speed
copper wing
The main thing that helps is something to clear low hp trash (WIIIISPS), so razorwire, anything explosive etc
stable tiger
yeah
upbeat gorge
The problem with melee acrid is he has no defence, no poison on melee, mediocre damage, one movement ability
stable tiger
and survivability
i woudlnt go pure melee
just i dont want the projectile spam build
copper wing
I want to like acrid but, imo he doesn't really fit with the game as is.
like merc and loader both have very high mobility to make up for their lack of ranged
upbeat gorge
If blight was like bleed and worked on melee attacks it would be 100x more fun
steep acorn
acrids mobility aint bad
stable tiger
that probably wouldnt be too hard to mod in would it
steep acorn
that shift can go places