gd2-nullified

[scarlet obsidian]

If you can get exposed on multiple enemies per hit you basically don't have cool downs

[silent cloud]

yeah so you just slicing winds a pack then dash through it lol

[sage lava]

If u can get 1 purity u can beyblade

[silent cloud]

hard as hell am i right, high skill cap

he's still unga bunga

it's just fire gets you now, unlike before where dude had like loader levels of hp

[past yarrow]

so what's your actual issue then? because all im hearing is complaining about his health nerfs and preaching his ability to annihilate everything - which is something every character does

[silent cloud]

If u can get 1 purity u can beyblade
@sage lava yeah but when you spam the m2 it starts sending you up ;_;

[sage lava]

Then don't do it

[silent cloud]

so what's your actual issue then? because all im hearing is complaining about his health nerfs and preaching his ability to annihilate everything - which is something every character does
@past yarrow im just tilted

[sage lava]

I beyblade to cancel combos

I don't touch him when playing with friends Anyway

[silent cloud]

he was fine before

[sage lava]

Btw how do u kill rex if he's iin the void and Bulwark Ambry

Mine got there and won't come out

[scarlet obsidian]

It is annoying when you don't have any healing but that doesn't last long

[silent cloud]

i still think fire damage is a lil too strong, on any survivor

[scarlet obsidian]

I haven't really had much trouble but maybe that's because I use winds

[silent cloud]

i mean with most, not specifically

[scarlet obsidian]

If you are on fire just dodge it

It's really simple

[broken ginkgo]

Fire dmg pretty much works like acrids poison but with very short duration, blazing elites burn dmg use % value, unlike players gain from .

[silent cloud]

just a bit ago i was fighting a magma worm, dude must of put llike 6 stacks of fire on me bc my hp when from 250ish to -34 real quick

[scarlet obsidian]

Did he hit you directly?

[silent cloud]

not that i noticed tbh, i dash thru him twice, then hit him with a couple of m1s+m2s

and suddenly my hp was super low (250) and then i just kind of died haha

[broken ginkgo]

Magma worms are boss that just love to fly around you and consume some time cus you may have troubles remain focus fire on them, they are weak.

[silent cloud]

but i ran away thinking my two medkit would outheal the fire dot

but i was wrong

[scarlet obsidian]

It won't activate till the fire goes out

[silent cloud]

ah that makes sense, guess i should of just kept hitting the worm and trying to leech/scythe off it

[scarlet obsidian]

Every time you get hit it resets the Medkit effect

[broken ginkgo]

Taking few armor plates pretty much negates the danger from afterburn. Most of the time I want elites to set me on fire cus it will allow me to proc razorwire and kill everything on my way

[silent cloud]

yeah i had no armor plates sadly, im gonna start looking for them more vehemently

do razorwire attacks proc your on hit items?

[scarlet obsidian]

Yes

[broken ginkgo]

It has 0.5 proc coef

[silent cloud]

not terrible

[broken ginkgo]

Same as phase blast

[silent cloud]

where do you guys see each individual item/attack's proc coef? wiki?

[scarlet obsidian]

Probably

[thorn oak]

yes

[broken ginkgo]

Correct, but don’t use fandom wiki, gamepedia will be a better source of info

[silent cloud]

thank you, im gonna check it out

[dense pumice]

Gamepedia still doesn't have proc coef effects on the new items tho 😦

[silent cloud]

how do they figure out the proc coefficient of things though, by actually testing or is it in the gamefiles somewhere?

[scarlet obsidian]

Prob in the files

[dense pumice]

Digging through the code

[silent cloud]

makes sense yeah

[grim rock]

is it just me or does visions of heresy just get objectively worse when stacking

[dense pumice]

It gets better if you have Brainstalks

[scarlet obsidian]

But captain glitch

[broken ginkgo]

As most survivors debatable, you able to deal more burst dmg but in sacrifice of evolving around that cooldown, bandolier and brainstalks are able to help you out with that, MUL-T with 2 vision is able to simply retool and avoid facing visions cooldown

[dense pumice]

Bandolier only refreshes 1 shot unless they fixed that, so Bando is not that helpful for Visions

[broken ginkgo]

Pretty sure it’s no longer a case, I’ll test it out in the evening

[dense pumice]

Ping me if you test it please, now I'm interested 😄

[broken ginkgo]

Sure thing

[broken ginkgo]

@dense pumice Has done it right now and you are correct, it only restores 1 shot.

[dense pumice]

Oh cool, that was fast

[polar anvil]

but its not evening

[chrome hedge]

time to troll with a "grenade only" run with Commando. I think I need to grab all the fire-related items, too

[polar anvil]

troll is a wrong word on a viable play

[broken ginkgo]

Has done it right now

[chrome hedge]

Need 4x Purity, too.

[broken ginkgo]

So I can be free in the evening

[chrome hedge]

and Brilliant Behemoths ❤️

will be in stream

[queen cedar]

Unpopular opinion: ||this game's pretty fucking good||

AITA?

[hazy solstice]

Does leeching seed work on acrid r/poison?

[polar anvil]

no

only on initial hit of abilties

[worldly marlin]

Since razorwire has a proc coefficient of 0.5, does it have a chance of proccing leech seeds?

[polar anvil]

yes,guaranteed

[worldly marlin]

Bless♥️

[limpid briar]

@patent pumice, not bad for first day of attempt.
As expected, it's relatively easy. The only thing that's difficult is the constant spawning and increased mobility.

[true portal]

I am like 99.99% certain I've watched leech seed give me healing ticks from my poison ticks while I did nothing

[mild brook]

probably just your R

or other items proccing

[hazy solstice]

Can someone explain how Purity works? My brain is getting confused

Is it if like you roll chance and you get it it rolls again so you dont?

[mild brook]

it's the exact opposite from a clover

if an item has a 50% chance to proc and it doesn't proc, a clover retries again for a positive outcome

[hazy solstice]

Like say i have a chance for a sticky to proc, it rolls again, but it rolls only when you initially got a favorable outcome?

K ty

[mild brook]

it rolls again when the item didn't proc

it retries for a positive outcome

and purity does the exact opposite, if you get a positive outcome it retries for a negative one

[polar anvil]

vermin

[grim rock]

it was all fun and games till he took my 28 tougher times

[polar anvil]

he doesnt use them

[grim rock]

i see

well then it was a combination of my procs and bemehoths that bonked me

well, in that run i unlocked the final alternative skill i had left to unlock. so all is good

[full current]

OMG I FINALLY GOT ETHEREAL!!!!!

[polar anvil]

gg

[grim rock]

welcome to the club

[full current]

Magma worm fell off the map 🤫

[polar anvil]

that's possible.

i never knew

[grim rock]

someone mention magma worm

[full current]

Blazing magma worm just yeeted me ethereal

Is that an overloading in the mix but not as the boss spawn?

Wat

[grim rock]

2 spawned on the map by default

[polar anvil]

yes

[grim rock]

i rushed to the teleporter, ignoring them

would you guys say its quicker to farm for artifacts by playing til level 5 and restarting, or just continue looping

[full current]

Looping I’d say

[polar anvil]

looping since you pick up speed

[full current]

Bosses die faster etc

[polar anvil]

ya

[sage lava]

I saw in Hotfixes that was bugged with That Doll from the 1.0 and could restore it

Does this affect things that kill with on kill triggers like Wisps?

[polar anvil]

it wasnt bugged it was just plainly overpowered

[sage lava]

It will still recharge faster if I have for example Daggers on the doll?

[polar anvil]

i dont understand your question

you are just limited to 3 dolls,every onkills should be working

[sage lava]

If i trigger the Doll with ceremonial daggers and they kill something will the cooldown decrease

[polar anvil]

oh my god

[sage lava]

Am I dumb?

[polar anvil]

yes.

[sage lava]

That was the thing they patched?

I thought it would decrease 8 times if u use the doll

[polar anvil]

yes and it still does

you are just limited to 3 dolls instead of no limi

[sage lava]

Ah ok

[true portal]

Am I nuts or did the pool thing in the bazaar for a legendary just take my one green scrap, make it 5, and let me keep all the greens I had while getting the legendary

[stuck meadow]

I believe thats a bug

[silver plover]

that's a bug being addressed in the next patch

[grim rock]

ok what

i found two gold statues in the same level

first one is on the the left side at the start of the video, second is by the end of the clip

what are the odds? if anyone knows

[carmine gyro]

i found three once

[silver plover]

with Sacrifice and Command on, the directors have a lot of extra spawn credits and nothing to do with them, because they can't spend them on the normal stuff (chests, printers, scrappers, etc.)

that significantly increases their spawnrate

[chrome hedge]

@limpid drum Behemoth Grenades in action https://clips.twitch.tv/QuaintSmokyWalrusKappaRoss

[limpid drum]

Das neat

[chrome hedge]

best is when you can bonk aerial enemies with grenades to do damage

[limpid drum]

maybe I’ll take grenade more often and see if my proficiency improves
I don’t think I can convert from suppressive gang tho hearing BUMBUMBUMBUMBUMBUMBUM gives me immense energy

[tropic cliff]

is there an updated wiki for new items?

[chrome hedge]

@tropic cliff https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Items

[sacred bough]

im proud of myself

I saw a shrine of the mountain and didn't use it

[shut jewel]

what

How

[silver plover]

feels great to break a bad habit, eh?

[true portal]

.....does..... does doing an artifact unlock prevent the challenge for 4 consecuting teleport events without leaving the radius? Since you bypass a whole event

[chrome hedge]

You have invited Overloading Elder Lemurians to a party...

[shut jewel]

the song, you'll get it automatically, don't worry too much about getting that achievement

[silver plover]

@true portal no, artifacts shouldn't negate challenges outside of extremely specific circumstances

"artifacts don't negate artifacts", S-tier English here

[chrome hedge]

I negated myself.

[true portal]

unlocked spite artifact.
Sounds dangerously useful

[twilit anchor]

:(

[limpid drum]

hello pitch

[twilit anchor]

hi

dont bring the horny here

this is a no-horny zone

[sleek reef]

heh horny go brrrrrrr

[crystal oxide]

You can't hide uwu

[twilit anchor]

oh christ

holy crap theres 32 ppl in vc rn

[south stratus]

this seems like a pretty normal chat

[queen cedar]

Buncha nerds if you ask me

[south stratus]

stupid discussion-2, what a bunch of nerds

[sleek reef]

gorsh

[radiant bramble]

[queen cedar]

:crabrave:
@radiant bramble MODS ARE GONE

[polar anvil]

this is calm

[vast cedar]

we straight up pimp chimpin

[crystal oxide]

🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀

[radiant bramble]

bro

[brisk quiver]

The calm before the storm

[radiant bramble]

#gd2-nullified is underrated

[vast cedar]

breathing is overrated

[dull ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-jasmine-love-sky-awhole-new-world-gif-4968288

[livid wedge]

incoming

[radiant bramble]

aha

[rugged garnet]

Gentlemen, we have 30 seconds before the horny comes over here

[compact spire]

ok unironically can we calm the horny, we'll never get chef at this rate

[rugged garnet]

Synchronize your death watches

[south stratus]

stop spaming gifs

[crystal oxide]

But Chef is the horny👀

[livid wedge]

how do you gert the charcter main roles

[polar sapphire]

when he cooks tho

[robust pine]

You bundle of foooools

[radiant bramble]

[compact spire]

go to #role-assignment

[brisk quiver]

Teleporting bread

[marble sage]

[south stratus]

when the mods come we moving again

[dull ingot]

My gifs are relevant and poignant, don't call me a spammer

[queen cedar]

One has to wonder what the hot, sticky substance Chef shoots is...

[radiant bramble]

its not about the game though

[crystal oxide]

when the mods come we moving again
You know it

[robust pine]

Oul

[vast cedar]

is it cheating to use artifact of glass on no item runs ?

[dull ingot]

yes

[crystal oxide]

No

[south stratus]

idk, havent unlocked it yet

got hit by the bulwark projectile

[dull ingot]

@vast cedar yes

[south stratus]

then die

[vast cedar]

jokes on you, glass isn't an item, it's an artifact

so you guys have invalid info

[crystal oxide]

glass party 🦀

[dull ingot]

no?

[livid wedge]

engi gang rise up

[dull ingot]

TATSU HAS RISEN

[brisk quiver]

Engineer gaming

[radiant bramble]

👁️

[polar sapphire]

precision engineer gaming

[brisk quiver]

robot rock plays

[crystal oxide]

What is a tatsu tho?

[livid wedge]

WE are just standing there, menacingly

[south stratus]

is it really 30 sec

no

[radiant bramble]

for #gd1-nullified yeah

[south stratus]

not here tho

[radiant bramble]

obviously

cuz the spammers are not in 2

[compact spire]

wdym @dull ingot is right here

;p

[radiant bramble]

ight #gd1-nullified is back on

[dull ingot]

why u bully me

[crystal oxide]

I'm down

[glacial onyx]

the Eclipse 2 teleporter debuff affects void charging too

the safe zone is still the same size, but you need to be standing directly next to the cell to charge it

rough

[frosty terrace]

too bad the lunar item doesn't affect the void charging

[glacial onyx]

yeah that'd be fun, at least

this is just annoying cuz i need to keep staring at the percent to know if im actually close enough or not

[dull ingot]

what’s the optimal build for engineer with command artifact

[polar sapphire]

fungus, only fungus

[glacial onyx]

fungus and then nkahuna's when you find a legendary

nothing else matters

[dull ingot]

literally nothing else?

no attack speed or anything also does knahuna stack

[glacial onyx]

yeah dont just build fungus, but its probably your most important white

attack speed and proc are always really good

[dull ingot]

what’s my best green? leeching seed and will o wisp?

[glacial onyx]

i dont play much engi, but getting rejuvenation rack and aegis will make your turrets pretty unkillable

[thorn plover]

wtf i got 2 reds out of 2 common chest

clover and soulbound

[dull ingot]

pog

[glacial onyx]

the missile launcher and ukulele are really strong with turrets

[thorn plover]

and im also in a zoom meeting XD

dam this is nice

[glacial onyx]

really once you have enough fungus for the turrets to tank everything you can kinda just build whatever you want

[dull ingot]

how many ukulele should i take

and what’s the best amount of fungus

[thorn plover]

id say 5 ukuleles should be good

10 if you want and like 10 or 15 fungus

imp overlord killed me 3rd stage, im sad, i got too cocky

[daring lance]

#gd2-nullified : yeah, ukuleles are pretty good
#gd1-nullified : GIVE ALL ENEMIES BIG TITS

[thorn plover]

XD

[livid wedge]

I want to unlock captian but I'm bad

[dull ingot]

Play on drizzle

[south stratus]

bro i will literally kiss you on the lips

[thorn plover]

wtf did anyone else have game discussions removed?

[rugged garnet]

There's a little something called

[thorn plover]

bro stop

stop step bro

[torpid vine]

So if I download the test branch and unlock stuff will that progress carry over once the patch goes live?

[crystal oxide]

WhAt ArE yOu DoInG sTeP bRo?!?!?

[south stratus]

lol

[thorn plover]

all i hear is anal, just saying ok

no

do it in your personal server

[glacial onyx]

hard yikes at eclipse 3

[pearl hedge]

bro just go loader

[frosty terrace]

my first eclipse run with captain and I got clover, alien head, 2x aegis, bleed and crits and crit heals

seems good

also bands

[placid bloom]

Is engineer entering target painting resetting mines cooldown a bug or intentional

[frosty terrace]

also, why do I keep hearing the clover sound when I take damage? is it razorwire critting even if there's nothing in range to hit?

[placid bloom]

just did my first engi monsoon, feels like it coulda gone a lot smoother without it tbh

[night mist]

do we have any word yet what happened to all of the scrapped alternate abilities? It was honestly the main thing I was looking forward to on the patch, and for it to be dropped has left me basically not playing RoR at all

[dawn hatch]

They probably didn't have time to finish them for the release date, there were likely prototypes that they didn't feel happy with.

[civic citrus]

I hear hello kitty adventure is bangin go rock that

[dawn hatch]

But that's just speculation on my part, I was also looking forward to them. Also the rest of the Heretic Set. Also some of the missing logs. Also alt-version of stages other than 1.

I hope those things will still come with post release support, but I can understand if the devs want to move to another project, as long as that is Deadbolt 2.

[torpid vine]

So what’s the worst enemy and why is it overloading lemurians

[digital mortar]

overloading lemurians?? they're easy

elder ones? not so ez

[frosty terrace]

overloading clay templars are pretty rough too

[rugged garnet]

Blazing stone titans are also pretty bad

And elite mini-mushrums stack damage real quick

[torpid vine]

Elders is what I meant

[latent cipher]

so how consistently are people able to beat the final boss? I've been getting a lot more consistent making it through the second and third phases, but the fourth just ruins me

[opal plaza]

Mostly just killing him before phase 4

Or just cheesing him

What character are you using?

[latent cipher]

right, one time I took away about 75% of his health as he stole the items but then was too weak

I'm trying most characters, I have actually won a few times, but I would say 9 out of 10 times I lose

I've been going basic with commando lately, but used rex, huntress too

[opal plaza]

You can cheese on Huntress by getting on a piller then starting phase 4

Just stand near the edge on the smallest piller and keep shooting

[latent cipher]

won't get hit by the needle attack?

[opal plaza]

You still will, but you can always stay back an naturally regen

Nothing should hit you up there

[latent cipher]

I gather the disposable missile launcher is also good, helps get items back and all

[opal plaza]

That should work

[sly oxide]

whats the console command to spawn as something else?

[frosty terrace]

trying to do eclipse 1 on captain, got to mithrix both times but in phase 3 he spawns a chimera behind me on the ramp that one shots me when I don't notice it 😄

he didn't do that before, I wonder if that's a recent change in the test branch, boss spawns a chimera near you, even if he's not there

[hybrid maple]

chimeras always spawned in his third phase, you might just be unlucky

[frosty terrace]

I didn't mean that, the chimeras usually spawn next to the boss, this time they spawned up on the ramp, right behind me

boss was nowhere near

[dull ingot]

ok

how do I kill a clay dunestrider as melee acrid

[stoic oriole]

hard yikes at eclipse 3
@glacial onyx more like hard yikes ate eclipse 6

and 7 holy hell

[foggy geyser]

@dull ingot keep it poisoned and run when it does its health suck

[dull ingot]

it insta shits on me cause im in melee range with bombs

[scarlet obsidian]

Use r

[analog lintel]

mithrix only has 4 toes

[foggy geyser]

I would generally try to keep poison up and deal with the other stuff that spawns until the to is at 99. Then you can focus on the boss alone and the poison should have done a decent amount of damage

[limpid briar]

@patent pumice, day two of SAAO.
So far, I'm able to get consistent past stage 3+. Getting used to new patterns of new enemy attacks is taking a bit to get used to, but it should be manageable.

[patent pumice]

ye

[limpid briar]

Got unlucky on that run since the enemies got ATG Missile MK. 1 at stage 3.

[broken ginkgo]

Another difficulty mod?

[limpid briar]

@broken ginkgo, it's in the Diluvian mod.
It's above Diluvian, it has all Diluvian modifers (with OSP fixed) and 8 counter Eclipse modifiers.

[broken ginkgo]

neat

[dull ingot]

i hate melee acrid

its unplayable

[scarlet obsidian]

I wish it was better but it's not unplayable

[dull ingot]

i need like

shaped glass mired urn aegis

[scarlet obsidian]

Why the hell would you get glass

[dull ingot]

u get like

glass purity

also, glass doubles ur mired urn healing

maybe blight is the way to go with glass

[scarlet obsidian]

But you lose osp

[dull ingot]

its fine as long as u have aegis it will have lots of health

osp is overrated anyway

there is too much shit in the game osp doesnt matter

[scarlet obsidian]

Survivability is what melee acrid struggles with

And wisps

Osp is really good

[dull ingot]

as long as ur in melee range osp is pretty much non existent

theres too much stuff thats gonna hit you

[scarlet obsidian]

Why glass

[dull ingot]

if u can kill everything

u wont die

[scarlet obsidian]

But not everything is in a group and you more than half your survivability with no osp

Glass won't help with poison

[dull ingot]

ok

i got overloading elder lemurian 17 min

theres no way anyone can man up to that

[frosty terrace]

usually not a problem at 17 min, if it's just one

depends on what survivor you are playing as too I guess

captain will just delete it's projectiles

if there's multiple, then you're in trouble

[dense pumice]

laughs in voluntarily fighting a Glacial and Blazing Elder Lemurian on Stage 2

[frosty terrace]

that feeling when you got 2 shatterspleens but find no crit items

or tri tips

[ornate crest]

which rex secondary is better?

[latent cipher]

in terms of raw power rex's default is a good bit stronger, however if you're looking for a safer option, the alt is good

once you get razorwire, his default secondary turns him into a tesla coil

[dull ingot]

default (with health cost) allows you to use razorwire more in lategame while alt benefits more from backup mags

[latent cipher]

yeah, the alt is impressive with mags

also with the way the fire/ice bands now work, the default secondary is a guaranteed way to activate them

[pine iris]

I'm going to beat Mithrix as a gunner drone

not original, I know

actually, I'm going to beat Mithrix as an imp

[main sonnet]

beat mythrix as a beetle

[pine iris]

the mod I'm using doesn't have beetle as an option

[dull ingot]

try to beat him as scav

it's hell

[pine iris]

going for missile drone this time

or, "missile drone"

no, just doing gunner drone

why tf do I have an areulionite

[pine iris]

through the abuse of shaped glass and glowing meteors, this may be possible

[vague comet]

If you could will into existence a reskin/remodel mod, what would you will into existence?

[alpine current]

new parents into old ror1 parents

[dull ingot]

commando into frogmando

[vague comet]

I'd want a ROB-themed remodel of MUL-T
ROB's my main in Smash

[pine iris]

off to go fight mithrix as a gunner drone

[pine forge]

good luck

[pine iris]

this gunner drone drunk off of tonic is coming for you, @normal finch

ow

walls of grief hurt

uh-

fuck this I'm playing bandit

[normal finch]

Lolz was that u?

Lmao stupid drone ate my hammer

[hallow surge]

does the halcyon seed summon aurelionite during the mithrix fight?

[dull ingot]

no, because it's not a teleporter event

[dense stratus]

Hey guys when should I activate tele?

3 minutes in or 4?

[polar anvil]

what diffuculty

[dense stratus]

monsoon/rainstorm

[polar anvil]

rainstorm 5-7,monsoon 3-6

[true portal]

just want to make sure I caught what just happened right.
We nuked final boss in a couple seconds after drain, killing him without getting a single item back.
I'm thinking the turrets I had already placed still had all their inherited items and nuked him for us?

[polar anvil]

yes

[true portal]

seems cheesy

but cool I guess

[polar anvil]

fixed in next patch

[waxen girder]

oh yeah, so the boss is gonna have triple items?

or just normal but all the turrets lose

[dull ingot]

the latter

[waxen girder]

I mean, you still have two other buddies dpsing mithrix

so engie is bond to have a easier time in mithrix, its jsut like how merc is just dead upon entering

[errant yew]

i havent been getting primordial cube alot lately but i totally forgot how filthy it can be. i just had cube with ceremonial daggers on captain and oh boy it takes care of enemies so fast. just call down the predator missiles and then proc everything

ive also got to try gestures and blast shower some time since that sounds really strong

[dense stratus]

man why do i never find crit lens :(

[jovial mesa]

game discussion 2

[arctic vine]

i'll be honest, i saw the talk about rex's M2 and got very confused. i keep forgetting they swapped his alt and his default

[cunning obsidian]

rex is invincible

[loud scroll]

@jovial mesa hey pal

[jovial mesa]

@loud scroll what you doing here

[loud scroll]

I could ask you the same

[jovial mesa]

i am simply having a game discussion

[loud scroll]

You mean a game discussion 2

[jovial mesa]

yes

who is your main

[loud scroll]

Huntress

[frosty dirge]

MUL-T with double saw

[jovial mesa]

hmm good choice huntress is bae

i live by the poison dog

[loud scroll]

Dog more like frog, acrids neat

[jovial mesa]

neat? acrid is s tier survivor he is more than neat

acrid is the equivalent of fire blast in prr

[loud scroll]

I dont play acrid that often honestly, i need to more

[jovial mesa]

all you need is a medkit and a rose buckler and you win

[spark narwhal]

idk rose buckler

is kinda fake armor

[true portal]

so is this one of those games where to use any mods I'll have to force all my friends to download and install the exact same modlist,
or one of those games where some techy automagic happens where they don't need to if I host

[scarlet lagoon]

uhh it used to be the first but might be the latter now idk havent looked into mods since almost release

[cerulean spire]

@true portal the first.

Theres a rare few mods that can work without the others downloading, but it often causes desync

[true portal]

often such a complication

getting my friends to mod

[scarlet lagoon]

most of the time mods feel really OP to me so i tend not to mod

[dull ingot]

I mean, I guess removing chests after they've been opened does make the game easier because i'm less prone to retardation related failure

[glacial vault]

balls are dumb

Bandit Reloaded mod is so good

[lucid oak]

fellas what is your least favourite enemy to fight and why is it brass contraption

those things end more of my runs than mithrix ever has

[true portal]

does artifact of sacrifice prevent lunar pod spawns?
Haven't seen any but monsters also aren't dropping any lunars

[hallow fractal]

wisps are worse. malachite wisp spawns inside a celestine jellyfish, guess i just die

[somber tide]

is it noted that in chaos mode your own turrets will aimbot you?

was doing the ethereal thing, noticed that when no enemies to lock onto, friendly turrets will SNAP to you, np chance to dodge, and shoot you a few times.

[scarlet obsidian]

Are clay templars a joke to you

[somber tide]

friendlies shouldnt attack you with aimbot, enemies, I guess so

[dry mirage]

The turrets normally look at you if there is no enemies nearby

[somber tide]

annoys me that an ethereal run could be ruined like that though

[astral oyster]

They look to you for guidance

[hazy solstice]

Does tritip proc twice over 100% chance?

[somber tide]

Jokes on them, I did it with flamethrower drones instead! Take that ethereal challenge!

I don't think so. @hazy solstice but on 1.0 bleed stacks

[hazy solstice]

ye ikl

just wonder4ing if its worth

[somber tide]

Probably only if you maxed out other stuff like crit. Don't think you need 100% til later

[blissful saffron]

did the devs ever release any information about development post 1.0 release?

[hazy solstice]

ye said theyll update it still

thats all i read

on some blogpost or twitter idk

[half tendon]

They even said paladin incoming

[wispy cypress]

weaver was my favorite out of the new survivors, but I really miss bandit ngl

[hybrid maple]

there is a mod for bandit in ror2

[granite shard]

They even said paladin incoming
@half tendon where'd they say that? i love the idea of paladin

[dense pumice]

They never said Paladin was coming what

[half tendon]

They said of all 4 ideas community voted for paladin and that surv will be implemented

[dense pumice]

Dude can you read

"NOTE: unlike the last poll, this one is purely for fun and won't influence the game's development. The developers are most likely already working on a character as we speak 🙂"

The poll that Paladin won was not a game development poll

[half tendon]

That doesnt mean it wont be implemented lol

[dense pumice]

Yes, but it also doesn't mean it will be implemented

[half tendon]

Then why make the poll lol?

[dense pumice]

For fun

[half tendon]

Its from mods

[dense pumice]

It was made by the mods from this discord

Who have NOTHING to do with the game development

[half tendon]

Who gave them authority to make pols? Not devs who own discord?

[red echo]

the mods here are not hopoo employees, they're just volunteer discord mods

[dense pumice]

^

[red echo]

they have nothing at all to do with the game

[dense pumice]

Most of the polls are just made for the community. Only 2 polls were actual research data for the devs

[half tendon]

And? How does that mean they cant affect the workflow via pols?

You know of top feedback and why is it made?

[dense pumice]

I'm not saying the polls can't affect it. But saying that Paladin will get added just because it won the community made poll is wrong.

[half tendon]

How this is very different?

Thats semantics. I say cup is half full. You - its half empty.

[red echo]

the poll was purely for fun and in no way official

we already got the new mystery survivor, it was captain

we may see some of those concepts in the future, probably not

most likely the next survivor we see will be sniper or chef with them being the runners up in the actual official poll

[half tendon]

I can bet my ass he was not done in just between pre- 1.0

[red echo]

?

[half tendon]

Cap

[red echo]

ghor literally confirmed the other day that they had nothing survivor-wise ready for 1.0 before that poll

if they ended up not going with captain he would've just been a silhouette or something in the intro

in fact they were expecting one of the ror1 survivors to win

[dense pumice]

Let me clarify this:
The actual poll for the new survivor was the April one. It was won by "New Mystery Survivor"

The June poll is the Community made fun poll for the separate Mystery Survivors which has nothing to do with development.

[red echo]

^

[half tendon]

Guess i lost my ass then

But thats just

[terse sparrow]

lost your ass

[half tendon]

Hey no need to mock, you ass-owning ableist. Some people are assless here

[terse sparrow]

hey everyone's got their struggles, I'm not one to judge 🤷‍♂️

[half tendon]

I mean that means poll was just cookies or pancakes?

[radiant flare]

Monsoon is driving me insane

[red echo]

Just wait for eclipse :^)

[tepid wolf]

Just wait for the slicing winds challenge

Tried completing it today but the first stage boss is a glacial elder lemurian while the second stage boss is a blazing magma worm

[radiant flare]

Ethereal?

[tepid wolf]

Yep

[radiant flare]

Already done it

The only merc thing left is Mastery

And I can do that at the same time as unlocking Purity

[tepid wolf]

Mithrix merc can be pretty rough

[red echo]

Just gotta pretend you're playing Dark Souls

[tepid wolf]

Ethereal just needs a lot of luck

If the trial isn't good have fun waiting 3 more days

[red echo]

nah cabbage is proof that ethereal has nothing to do with luck

if he can do it every 3 days like clockwork there's no luck involved

good artifact rng makes it easier but it's always doable

[tepid wolf]

It's always doable technically but it also depends on enemies that you face as well

[main canyon]

Google, please be joking

[red echo]

mithrax be like

[dull ingot]

mithrax

[red echo]

mathrix

[robust tangle]

i always get matrix when i look him up

[placid bloom]

im having trouble getting commando to scale well in monsoon

it feels like he's obscenely bad at the start if you dont get something decent straightaway like Ukelele

i could just be bad but, any pointers? or does he really just suffer from a rough start?

[tranquil wadi]

He's extremely item dependent from the start, yeah

[dense pumice]

The alt abilities make early game somewhat better, but yeah you still need aoe and proc items

[placid bloom]

yeah ok that makes me feel better abotu constantly wiping lol

or going over easy mark because no dps

[dense pumice]

What abilities do you have?

[tranquil wadi]

Nah it's fine

like for example, if you're super unluckly and don't get any good proc for him, his m1 is literally useless

[placid bloom]

im using shortrange blasts and

slide

i figured the stun was too much to give up in his utility

[dense pumice]

The shotgun is a must, slide is nice if you get used to it, and grenades help a lot with aoe

I personally run all alt 🤷‍♂️

[placid bloom]

hmm

ill give the grenades a try i havent yet

[tranquil wadi]

yeah same

feels like all alt commando is just the actual Commando character

[placid bloom]

thks

[dense pumice]

Once you find a single stun grenade, the stun on the R becomes less useful

[placid bloom]

fair enough

i was thinking maybe the dps

and procrate was worth it because of how it scales with aspd

[dense pumice]

Well, but that's thinking late game

Late game suppressive fire outscales grenades yes, but early game the aoe of the nades is a godsend

Also, it's the only thing in Commando's kit that can proc Bands without any other items

[placid bloom]

ic

so maybe consider running surpressive if im doing say

multiplayer?

[tranquil wadi]

Since early game is where commando struggles the most, grenades are def better imo

[dense pumice]

If the other person can handle aoe, sure. But I got so used to grenades that I just use them all the time now.

[tepid wolf]

Eh not really nades scale poorly

[tranquil wadi]

They suck late game

but late game your m1 is all you need anyways

[tepid wolf]

Especially in multiplayer you have propably have someone with AOE

[tranquil wadi]

Oh sure multiplayer maybe

I wouldn't know cause all I play is SP

[tepid wolf]

Suppressive fire scales really well generally

Later on it is an absolute beast

Frag grenades are mainly really janky

[placid bloom]

aigh, run went a lot smoother with nades i see what you mean

a bit janky sure, but for SP i might very well use it. ill stick to surpressive when im in MP.

thanks yall.

[tepid wolf]

Nades are good if you struggle in early game as commando

Since you either need one ukulele or will-o-wisp to deal with groups

[placid bloom]

yaeh

and i dont really like having to restart a run just cuz first stage failed me

itemwise that is

[tepid wolf]

I don't think having no AOE stage one warrants a reset

[placid bloom]

i feel like on commando i end up tryna balance making sure im not overrun by wisps and golems while dealing with the boss

so usually what happens is i go over my time "budget"

[tranquil wadi]

My run: gives me a crowbar printer as loader

also my run: 6 death marks in a row as Loader

[worn grove]

I can't get past stage 5 on monsoon, just feel like I get melted even though I'm there within ~35-45 minutes. Any tips?

[tranquil wadi]

Character?

[worn grove]

Either Huntress or Rex

[carmine tree]

my personal recommend is rose buckler

[dense pumice]

35-45 sounds somewhat slow tbh

[tranquil wadi]

stage 5 in 40 minutes is kinda late

You might be underpowered, aim for ~5 minutes per stage maybe?

[worn grove]

I do

[tepid wolf]

Yep 5 minutes max per stage is a good mindset

[tranquil wadi]

And also, as Huntress, movement is key

[tepid wolf]

Only exception is abyssal depths or siren's call where you can get the reds

[tranquil wadi]

Ya need yourself a lot of movement items to efficiently not get hit

[tepid wolf]

Huntress can avoid hits even without a lot of movement items

Especially if you have phase blink

[worn grove]

I use all of the alt abilities on huntress

[tepid wolf]

Flurry is more of a late game ability since it quite a bit weaker than strafe until you get around 40% crit

[worn grove]

Yeah

I often struggle getting more crit

[tepid wolf]

So if you struggle earlier on I recommend strafe

[dense pumice]

But it feels so good when you find a glasses printer stage 1

[worn grove]

I don't like strafe

[tepid wolf]

Flurry is quite slow and has lower DPS than strafe which is it's main issue

[worn grove]

until you get more crit

[tepid wolf]

Yeah but you aren't guaranteed to get solid crit early on

[tranquil wadi]

For Loader, is the charge punch or the thunder punch better

[worn grove]

true

[obtuse hollow]

Personal preference

[tepid wolf]

They are about equal

[tranquil wadi]

Hmm okay

[tepid wolf]

Your only real source of single target damage with flurry is your ballista

[obtuse hollow]

But I always go strafe on huntress because more often then not, glaives end up doing more damage then m1 anyway

And strafe is far better early

[tepid wolf]

Late game flurry is super strong

Glaives aren't really single target they are AOE anyway

[obtuse hollow]

But glaive is better than flurry

[tepid wolf]

Glaive is better against groups

Huntress always had problems with single target damage

[obtuse hollow]

Yeah

[tepid wolf]

And flurry melts bosses and such once you get around 30% or 40% crit

[obtuse hollow]

Based on the numbers, strafe does the same damage

[carmine tree]

so in using syringe, glasses and syringe must be needed?

I mean using flurry

[dense pumice]

Syringes are the same on both. Glasses are very important for flurry tho

[tepid wolf]

Except it doesn't

[obtuse hollow]

Yes, you give up some damage early to get more damage late on m1

[worldly epoch]

Whats the point of the shrine of order on the moon? its in a spot where if you have no mobility items you could be stuck indefinitely

[obtuse hollow]

That’s the funny part

[dense pumice]

There's a Shrine of Order

[worldly epoch]

yes

[dense pumice]

lmao

[worldly epoch]

underneath the main walkpath

[crystal oxide]

It's for the lols

[tepid wolf]

Like firing 6 crit shots does a lot of damage

[worldly epoch]

I did it as I was leaving and got 100 red whips

[obtuse hollow]

Spid

[crystal oxide]

lmao

[dense pumice]

That's amazing

[worldly epoch]

I was flying as huntress

[carmine tree]

shrine of order in moon? lol

[worldly epoch]

I couldnt control where I was going and somehow made it to the ship

[crystal oxide]

Could've attacked to cancel it

[worldly epoch]

I was playing huntress

[dense pumice]

I assume you can still drop down and it will respawn you on the path and not right next to the shrine

[crystal oxide]

Oh wait, huntress cant attack unless there are enemies my bad

[obtuse hollow]

Ballista

[worldly epoch]

the speed is acutally what saved me

I ran off the platform and ran onto a solid pillar that made me go high up into the air then I landed on the ship

[carmine tree]

lol

[crystal oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/parkour-theoffice-freerunning-gif-5128248

[worldly epoch]

I can replicate it I just need huntress with 100 red whips on the moon

its really ez to replicate

[carmine tree]

I really wish to see that in clip

[worldly epoch]

I dont know how to clip

me bad with computers but great at games

):

[carmine tree]

that's fine

should try that some time, 100 whips

[worldly epoch]

well where you need to run is very particular

put it on drizzle with command and stream it for me and I could instruct you

I was on monsoon so thats why I was scared I was gonna die

[crystal oxide]

Pick up nothing but red whips and wax quails

[worldly epoch]

I had 100 red whips and fireworks how useful (:

[crystal oxide]

Fireworks aren't too bad, could've been 100 monster teeth

[worldly epoch]

I was escaping the moon

I dont need any fireworks when there are zero interactables nearby

[crystal oxide]

Well then all you needed was mobility

[carmine tree]

can I activate little disciple and red whips at the same time?

[worldly epoch]

I think so

[dense pumice]

Yes

[worldly epoch]

or maybe not cause how is combat triggered

[dense pumice]

Little Disciple will not trigger combat

[worldly epoch]

right because it is a seperate entity

[dense pumice]

It's passive damage. Only active damage like shooting or using an offensive equipment(Actually not sure about that one) will trigger combat

[carmine tree]

clearing stage by little disciple and red whips

have to note this

[tranquil wadi]

Question: do you guys get lunars on monsoon runs?

cause idk my friend always gets blue portal and ends up with like 10+ lunars, while I usually get none

[tepid wolf]

I mean if you have tons of lunars (or cheated them in) you can guarantee a blue portal every stage which gets pretty overpowered

[tranquil wadi]

Oh by lunars i mean lunar items

[tepid wolf]

Because you can easily start stacking immense amounts of gestures and can get some powerful red items

[twin marsh]

Oh, a red printer, I can just offload this one thing I don't nee-
It takes my captain drone

[tepid wolf]

Captain drones are returned on each new stage

[tranquil wadi]

REALLY

[tepid wolf]

So you can literally scrap them every stage and get a new one in the next one

[tranquil wadi]

THATS

BROKEN???

[tepid wolf]

Not really

Red printers are super rare

[tranquil wadi]

I mean if you happen to find one though

[twin marsh]

Oh, huh.

That's nifty.

[dense pumice]

That's fixed on test branch btw Duke

So next patch, get ready to unlearn that

[tepid wolf]

I did it like once because I never see red printers anyway

[tranquil wadi]

I had the start of a god run with Huntress

then I got destroyed by the alloy worship unit

;-;

[tepid wolf]

Most of my possible god runs were ended by overloading brass contraptions on stage 4 or 5

[dense pumice]

"god runs" lel

[tepid wolf]

I mean sometimes you get great items early on

[dense pumice]

Yea ik

[tepid wolf]

My best was like having 2 rejuv racks stage 3

Got the first from literally the first chest on stage one and second from void fields

[dense pumice]

Ooh

I'd be buying those blue orbs left and right just to find a corpsebloom

[tepid wolf]

Corpsebloom is awful though

[dense pumice]

With 2 racks it's great

[tepid wolf]

But really overloading brass contraptions are pure evil

[tranquil wadi]

So are overloading elder lemurians

[tepid wolf]

The first hit gets rid of 60-70% HP and then the explosive ball kills you

[tranquil wadi]

I was running commando on monsoon
amazing start, brilliant behemoth, 2 syringes and crit glasses on stage 1

[pine iris]

overloading lems ended run?

[tranquil wadi]

Stage 2 boss? Horde of overloading Elder Lemurians right on top of me

got instantly obliterated yep

[tranquil wadi]

Kinda wish stuff like events, shrines of order or cleansing pools would spawn more

[tepid wolf]

I mean shrines of order are good for memes

[fluid rivet]

any good ways to improve performance?

[dull ingot]

lower settings

mainly shadows

and everything else

[vague basin]

Shadows and increasing mob cleanup are handy

[vocal frigate]

does deathmark need 4 different debuffs or does a bleed thats stacked to x4 suffice

[dense pumice]

Have to be unique debuffs

[vocal frigate]

but bleeds/stuns/slows count right

[dull ingot]

stun doesn't

[dense pumice]

^

[chrome hedge]

Turn off EXP and Money Effects, in the Gameplay tab. The explosion of coins from kills in lategame situations can also add up.

I also recommend corpses at 0, since they are both distracting and also consume resources. Hidden corpse cleanup is less jarring.

[old ledge]

good advice acually? I think my machine struggles hardest with effects and things on screen

also a reliable way to get death mark procced is engie mobile turrets, tritip, shatterspleen and shattering justice, although two of those items are kinda rare

[scarlet lagoon]

i wanna run where i order shrine all my reds to microbots lol

[vocal shell]

what's the actual attack speed on carbonizer turrets?

[scarlet lagoon]

its 200%dmg/second

it ticks once a second

[narrow gate]

anyone got tips to deal with malachites as merc? i pressed e and just got exploded

[loud scroll]

i frames

[fickle snow]

s ouhhh

does hopoo's devlog tumblr no longer exist?

i go to what it used to be, and now im greeted with some random lady's armpit hair

[languid yarrow]

i think now there's two o's instead of three

[fickle snow]

oh

thanks. what a misfortunate change

[tranquil wadi]

Did they change anything to monsoon's difficulty? I used to obliterate all the time but now I struggle to go past stage 5...

like, i've now wasted over 10 hours trying to beat Mithrix and... I only got to him twice on the second loop

[broken ginkgo]

all difficultys got 10% increased scaling after 1.0 update

[tranquil wadi]

Oooh
THAT'S WHY I KEEP GETTING ANNIHILATED

guess I gotta get good

[broken ginkgo]

It's very noticable in multiplayer, probably cus 10% is multiplied with each player

Still doesn't stop commando to destroy everything with procs and new bleed

[tranquil wadi]

Yeah but still
I struggle with commando cause my luck SUCKS and he's extra item-dependent

and Huntress kinda just gets oofed by any slightly hard hitting enemy

[snow wagon]

Shatterspleen bleed is just on any crit right? So wouldn't MUL-T proc it the most?

[tranquil wadi]

yeah?

[snow wagon]

I think huntress can get tanky if you stack some rose bucklers.

[broken ginkgo]

She can, but her health pool doesnt opens as much potential as you can reach with saw mul-t

[tranquil wadi]

Can she really get tanky? Rose buckler only gives flat damage reduction

[broken ginkgo]

It's % dmg reduction

10 roses is 75% dmg resistance

[tranquil wadi]

do I just not know how armor works

[broken ginkgo]

Armor plates is flat amount

rose is %

[tranquil wadi]

damn okay wow

so like... 10 rose bucklers is 75% damage reduction

I didn't know that holy crap

[broken ginkgo]

correct

But only when you sprint, survivors like commando \ Rex wont benefit from it as much as merc \ huntress \ Saw mul-t

[tranquil wadi]

Wait merc can hit while sprinting now that's right

damn thanks my guy, kinda revolutionized my runs right there

[broken ginkgo]

He always could?

[tranquil wadi]

Huh. Never really could tell since you never really used m1 other than in between skills

[broken ginkgo]

You just hold m1 before since it could be used while you doing other skills

now it cant

[placid echo]

I got commandos shotgun and it’s so much better than phase round

[tranquil wadi]

It really is lol

[placid echo]

Got grenades in the same run and I’m not feeling em

[broken ginkgo]

Frags are a great side grade, they require to get used to their physics and they will support your run greatly

Use them myself

[tranquil wadi]

Full alternative commando really feels like the character he's supposed to be

[frozen stratus]

Important question! Why wasn't the child added in ror2

The parent exist but not the child

[tight stratus]

dunno.
either a lack of time, redundancy of mobs, or console publishers not wanting it.

[placid echo]

I like the stun and single target damage of his burst

[tight stratus]

Commando's grenade was better (by comparison) before the 1.0 update.
the current Suppressive Fire is objectively superior because it now scales with attack speed.

[placid echo]

Ah didn’t know it did not scale before

[broken ginkgo]

By the time when grenade was added sup fire already scaled from attack speed

[placid echo]

Shooting rapid fire just smacks

[frozen stratus]

Suppressive fire+brain stalks is busted

[tight stratus]

suppressive fire's a really broken skill with attack speed items. it's like Eviscerate, but a gun.

[broken ginkgo]

And no, X isn't > Y, Frags benefits from different items, behimoth will allows to explode it with each bounce, bands and ukulele will even boost it's AoE potential and you can add crowbar on top of that.

It's not a broken, it's your m1 with 10% more dmg, 20% attack speed with 9 seconds cooldown

oh and stun

[placid echo]

I just don’t see a reason to take a grenade

[tight stratus]

It can be broken with attack speed items

I never said it was broken on it's own.

[frozen stratus]

I could add behimoth to suppressive though

[placid echo]

If it requires a good amount of items to produce a decent effect I don’t know

[broken ginkgo]

okay? now lets give frags a and bands

[placid echo]

The stun and burst just feels more consistent

[broken ginkgo]

The benefit in AoE and dmg even more now

[frozen stratus]

But I could add bands as well to my suppressive

Making it aoe

[broken ginkgo]

You cant? sup fire by itself will not trigger them

Bands require 400% dmg to trigger

[tight stratus]

The stun and burst just feels more consistent
that's a big thing that makes it better; with the frag, you have to carefully aim and predict where the grenade will bounce.
Bands won't trigger if the attack itself isn't above a % threshold, yeah.

[frozen stratus]

Even with glasses and any damage buffing item?

[broken ginkgo]

No

Bands only count 400% base dmg

2 atg can trigger bands but with less dmg potential

[tight stratus]

it's a % damage threshold. if a skill itself doesn't go past that, it won't trigger.

[frozen stratus]

So you're telling me my life is a lie?!

[tight stratus]

No, you just didn't read the fine print.
Enjoy your Timeshare.

[placid echo]

I feel like if I’m gonna have a behemoth and the uke and all this stuff the phase blast will serve the same crowd control effect as the grenade

[frozen stratus]

We live in a society

[broken ginkgo]

The only noticable side of sup-fire is that it can benefit commando in procs even more, yet 9 second cooldown still a thing

So I prefer frags

[placid echo]

Though the grenades being the only thing in his kit to proc the bands sicks

Sucks

[chrome hedge]

Frags are tough, but learn them and you will be rewarded.

also "Gears of Whore" heh

[placid echo]

Comedy gold

[tight stratus]

Frags are also really hard to hit air enemies with, or Mittens, since he moves like Tiger Woods on crack.

[broken ginkgo]

No, Frag have much better dmg potenrial with than sup fire, @placid echo cus each bounce triggers it

[vague comet]

Opinion question
I've set a macro for use on MUL-T to rapidly Retool for me while firing off Rebars and shotgun nail gun blasts repeatedly on every Retool switch. Would you consider this cheating?

[broken ginkgo]

They can explode multiple times and dealing a very huge amount of dmg

[chrome hedge]

Behemoth and Grenade interaction is pretty damn hilarious https://clips.twitch.tv/DepressedCuriousNigiriOneHand

[placid echo]

But doesn’t the phase blast proc it 8 times alone?

[tight stratus]

No, some bigger streamers have covered "Double Barrel" Mul-T, it's neat for the early stages, but falls by the wayside in even mid-game.

[broken ginkgo]

Blast fires 8 shots with each having 0.5 proc coef

[placid echo]

But the behemoth procs no matter what

[broken ginkgo]

Yes?

[chrome hedge]

It's still +60% damage to what M2 already does.

[tight stratus]

Blast fires 8 shots twice

[placid echo]

So doesn’t the phase blast behemoth serve the same purpose as the grenade with behemoth

[chrome hedge]

the grenade interaction is completely different, since bounce does no damage normally, yet this bounce explosion does 60% based on center blast damage

and it can do that multiple times per grenade

so 420% * 3 or something, then 700% from the actual grenade blast

that's way more than +60%

[placid echo]

But

200 x .6 is 120

120x8 is 960

So a bonus 1920% damage per m2 click

wait wait

8x200 total

So just the 960% damage per click

[broken ginkgo]

Our topic was sup fire and frags, yes every ability will benefit from behimoth a lot, but frags do that the most, simple as that.

[placid echo]

But relying on uke procs to make it useful just doesn’t seem like it’s worth when I can stun and proc things way more reliably and consistently without thinking about how to toss the grenade just feels better

[chrome hedge]

Frags are tough, but learn them and you will be rewarded.
Write it down if you need to so as not to belabor a circular discussion.

[broken ginkgo]

Eh? you dont rely on CC items with frags at all, what you even talking about

[placid echo]

What?

[broken ginkgo]

Ukulele just benefits frags even more in AoE potential

Not "making them useful"

While with sup fire, you exactly have 0 AoE potential, but 6 shots that can stun with 9 seconds cooldown time

[placid echo]

There’s not many enemies that are gonna be bothered by the grenade and relying on uke procs to deal with something slightly off the ground doesn’t seem to be worth taking over the laser beam proc god sup

[tight stratus]

Frag is... a high-skill, very situational ability; and since you need very specific items to make it shine, items which happen to be legendary. (and that video shows an effect which is SURELY unintended and may be patched out) Frag works best against a target that's slow and stays towards the ground, not fast mobs, or things that fly.
Sup-Fire can be used against literally any target you can make eye contact with, and it's better for the current meta games, examples being Proc Chains and stacking debuffs (like bleed)
Frags doing full-damage from a Behemoth blast on a bounce that does no damage is surely an unintended effect, especially considering the original function of the Behemoth.
Frags are good, but 99% of players will pick Sup-Fire over it because it's easier to use, ease of use being the intended purpose of the first Survivor a player can pick.

[broken ginkgo]

This wouldnt be patched out, unless a whole mechanic of frags will be rewoked which is not likely to happen since their in perfect spot

[placid echo]

Also building to benefit the grenade doesn’t benefit commando as much as building to benefit sup fire

[chrome hedge]

Frags are already in a good spot due to Band synergy.

The synergy just makes them bonkers but isn't necessary for them to be good.

[tight stratus]

No, Behemoth's literally been changed to what it is because people were doing too much damage with it alone.
It originally had damage that scaled along with the blast radius.

[chrome hedge]

I've done plenty of Eclipse runs with Frag Grenade and that early game is incredibly unforgiving.

[broken ginkgo]

Behimoth triggers every time when your ability hits anything, so unless a whole mechanic of frags will be changed, it wouldn't be likely to happen. Behimoth is strong, absolutely cus its literaly 60% dmg boost

Unless you doing MAAO

[chrome hedge]

a lack of good AoE is what kills Commando more than anything because he just gets mobbed before he can get any items to make up for it

[tight stratus]

Eclipse and MAAO are their own things, completely separate from the infinite exploding grenade.

[placid echo]

With one of the best mobility abilities in the game I don’t think you should be letting anything near you

[broken ginkgo]

Behimoth is terrible for MAAO

[tight stratus]

a lack of good AoE is what kills Commando more than anything because he just gets mobbed before he can get any items to make up for it
Yeah, pretty much that.

[broken ginkgo]

Thats why I mentioned the word "unless"

[chrome hedge]

and if your goal is to beat Eclipse, frags are better since DPS for beating Mithrix is your primary concern

Suppressive's stun component does bugger all for that fight and its DPS is barely higher than M1

[placid echo]

Except it scales with attack speed

[chrome hedge]

(so does M1)

[tight stratus]

Friendly reminder that Mittens is going to have some reworks done.

[placid echo]

Have you tried it with super high attack speed?

You get so many shots off with one button press lmao

[chrome hedge]

yeah, most of the playerbase eagerly await less stupid Mittens

[placid echo]

Laser beam

[broken ginkgo]

Sup fire is m1 with 10% more dmg and 20% attack speed, thats it.

[placid echo]

And commandos bread and butter is holding down m1

So a roided m1 doesn’t seem like something that’s bad

[tight stratus]

That discounting of Sup Fire is like saying Arti's Nano Bomb is a diet Preon.
Yeah, it functions similar. We get it. add to the conversation.

[random laurel]

do i do it? (i have already activated 1 shrine already)

[tight stratus]

always Mountain. you can just yeet yourself out of the TP zone if it's something spicy

[chrome hedge]

only if you want to die gloriously

get an Overloading Stone Titan or something

[broken ginkgo]

Yes, but I wanna have more early game dmg potential and being able to have better scalling with bands and behimoth. Frags And Sup Fire is down to players preference

Nobody saying that "X is > than Y"

I always activate shrines, it's always nice and fun to risk

[tight stratus]

Frags And Sup Fire is down to players preference
Nobody is saying that X > Y
@broken ginkgo
wut
you've been discounting Sup Fire every chance you get
and putting Frag on this pedestal (with the Behemoth interaction that i'm sure is unintended)

[broken ginkgo]

I wasnt? I was explaining why frags are good

I mentioned that sup fire can benefit commando in procs even more

[random laurel]

update

[chrome hedge]

Glacial Stone Titan laser o.o

[tight stratus]

welp, time to turn into Arti sniper.

[broken ginkgo]

Not as bad as blazing

[random laurel]

the fight actually already happened

i killed all the titans and then died straight after

to the planet

[broken ginkgo]

You can outrun laser if you are in a point blank range to stone titan and circle him

[tight stratus]

The planet knew you were too awesome to live.

[chrome hedge]

nothing compares to original early access Blazing Stone Titan

[random laurel]

yeah i fought them all at point blank

[tight stratus]

Yeah, Arti doesn't do the whole outrunning thing if her only movement item is one hopoo feather.

[broken ginkgo]

Even without movement items you can outrun laser

[tight stratus]

can

[broken ginkgo]

But there were multiple stone titans, so it isnt valid

[tight stratus]

yup

[broken ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/748191112606384218/laser.mp4

[random laurel]

laser is also blocked by other titans

and they were all crowded together

[tight stratus]

they were also glacial titans, which slow you, soooooo.....

[chrome hedge]

Commando needs a ripped/swole alt with realistic muscle physics.

[broken ginkgo]

Simply, the more you hug them, the more helpless titans are

[tight stratus]

oddly, a lot of Bosses don't have a "melee" ability

[chrome hedge]

most bosses are too slow for them to ever want to use it

notable exception is Imp Overlord, whose melee attack is killer

[frosty terrace]

I want a mod that makes loader's gauntlet grow with her movement speed

when I one punch stuff, I want the fist to be massive

[barren adder]

A glass shard would make it easy to get REX's 50% heath teleporter completion skill unlock wouldn't, cause it doesnt remove half your max health it sets it you can only heal to half.

[subtle kite]

I wanna know what people think, what's the most real way to play RoR2? Like the most fair way. I know Monsoon but like, no artifacts? Some artifacts? All artifacts? Like what's the "no items, final destination" of RoR2? I'm making a vid and I'm tired of people shitting on me no matter what I set stuff as

[snow wagon]

Is the achievement at or below 50% though?

[subtle kite]

Do I just put it on monsoon and go?

[barren adder]

Might be below half, so you'd need two then.

[snow wagon]

No artifacts, monsoon, no lunar coins (or maybe no preexisting lunar coins) imo.

[arctic terrace]

fuck this shit

[barren adder]

Regardless, I'm just curious if it considers you at full health or not with glass shard

[subtle kite]

@snow wagon so like I'd have to get rid of all the ones I have before starting the run?

Cause I have like 50

[barren adder]

Cause I believe aegis still works, so it might conaider you at full.

[snow wagon]

Just don't use them

[subtle kite]

@snow wagon gotcha, okay fair enough. I just wanna make a sick God run video without any room for people to nitpick the shit out of it. Most comments are positive cause they're meant to be funny but there's always a couple nitpicky weenies and I just don't want none of it this time

[snow wagon]

Oh, people will nitpick no matter what lol

[frosty terrace]

^

[barren adder]

Peraonally, I say any artifact other than command is fair game, command is just boring, every run is the same cause you pick the same items.

[snow wagon]

Command but you pick the worst items XD

[frosty terrace]

glass and meteors, right?

[subtle kite]

FAIR I just never thought people would be nitpicky on a meme video

[tepid prairie]

Some people will slam ya because they like an item you may pass on. Its just the reality of games with builds

[subtle kite]

Like I didn't think I'd have to tell so many people "yes, that's the JOKE"

But now I will leave no room for comment weenies

[frosty terrace]

but yeah, just a regular monsoon no artifacts should be good, for real challenge do eclipse 8

[tepid prairie]

Glass and swarm. No one will have any hp

[subtle kite]

Are people gonna poop on me for using any particular character? I think they're all pretty fair but I was gonna use Rex cause I just like him

[tepid prairie]

I think Captain is the only one people are giving a hard time for. Hes new and cool but a lot of people think hes OP and unbalanced

[frosty terrace]

rex is fine

captain is real strong and fun yeah. I love captain

[subtle kite]

I've heard that yeah. Plus I just did a video on captain. He's real fun

[frosty terrace]

I've beaten eclipse 3 so far on captain

[subtle kite]

Dang

[barren adder]

The only one you can easily make literally 100% immune to all damage 100% of the time is mercenary. Get enough cooldown reduction and you can just constantly spam his R, making him invincable

[tepid prairie]

They just need to change the void issue with him and maybe a few tweaks to bring him down a tad imo. Lore should never be in the way of fun

[frosty terrace]

what's the void issue? captain can do void easy

the microbots are real big help in the void and M1 carries

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/559901453834256404/746880785117610024/unknown.png

did that on captain

[tepid prairie]

Im not a fan and losing kit pieces for lore reasons. Whether theyre super impactful or not is beside the point in my head

[chrome hedge]

I wonder how many will care if Captain loses M2 entirely.

[snow wagon]

But the attack reset!

[frosty terrace]

the stun helps against stone golems

and elder lemurians

and clay templar

all of which were in that void I posted above 😄

clay templars would have 100% killed me if I had no stun

[tight stratus]

yeah, it's great for taking a single target out of the fight momentarily.

and since everything in that session could crit half the time, i don't blame you lol

[vital quarry]

Is that a wiiu?

[glacial vault]

Switch Lite

No docking whatever

[placid echo]

Hmm what’s the best way to get the berserker unlock

[glacial vault]

Rex

[frosty terrace]

you mean glorious battle? yeah rex. Get the teleporter to 98%, kill the boss while outside the radius, get your hp low and hop in to complete it

[placid echo]

nah i meant berskerks pauldron

[frosty terrace]

yeah that's glorious battle

https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Glorious_Battle

[placid echo]

is that what the achievement is called

oh ok

[north flame]

does anyone know what the monster to the right of the parent in the logbook is?

[frosty terrace]

rex m2 deals damage to you, easy to get into the hp threshold

[random laurel]

@north flame

[north flame]

what the hell ive literally killed him 5 times but it says i havent killed him once

[frosty terrace]

bug

you need to get his log to see him at all

[north flame]

how do you get the log?

[frosty terrace]

he has a chance to drop it, after any phase it might drop near the center of the arena

clovers makes it more likely

[north flame]

okay cool

thanks ive been trying to figure out all day

[random laurel]

idk why he's just in between a bunch of normal enemies and not at the end

[placid echo]

hey i did it

thanks it was clockwork with rex

[random laurel]

wp

i think miths logbook is just borked

apparently ive never killed him

[broken ginkgo]

Yea it’s a bug

[frosty terrace]

yeah same here, doesn't seem to count kills

[dull ingot]

what's the ideal build for merc

with command artifact

[frosty terrace]

fat stack of alien heads