Learned that the hard way
#gd2-nullified
tepid wolf
frosty terrace
loader on monsoon? that's gonna be real hard fight, you need to charge in super fast and get out
placid bloom
ye that fight is a no from me dawg, ill stick ot loop/obli despite that i actually left early access so i would have a fun provi esque fight
lavish garnet
I'd honestly say that getting a god run is even worse for the final fight
frosty terrace
yeah, but if you mess up, you're right next to the boss and get destroyed
placid bloom
and this certainly is a hard pass
lavish garnet
I've lost a bunch of runs because he got my behemoths and insta killed me lol
tepid wolf
You either die to the third phase by having bad or average luck or die to the last phase in a god run
frosty terrace
the devs did say they didn't want people breaking their builds because of the boss, but currently the last phase is just very risky if you had good damage items
tepid wolf
The mobile carbonizer turrets absolutely melt mithrix if you have 9 daggers
lavish garnet
I thought it would be cool if when he sucked your items, instead of taking your items back from him, you both got the same items back at the same time as you did damage to him
It wouldn’t really make sense but I think it would be a little cool
tepid wolf
The last phase was a good "oh crap" moment for the first time
lavish garnet
Ikr, it was great
tepid wolf
Then it feels like pain especially with merc
The mithrix fight is amazing the first time you fight him because it reminded of something from dark souls rather than ROR2
Since it's just a dude with a hammer compared to the giant creatures you fought earlier
frosty terrace
telegraphed attacks that you can dodge are good
attacks that you can't dodge are bad
tepid wolf
The hammer slap is not telegraped well
honest hawk
Also note: transcendence builds get nuked by mithrix. He just takes all the trans and....he's so tanky
tepid wolf
A few hooves and hopoo feathers are a necessity
honest hawk
Learned that the hard way
tepid wolf
Also be careful when he steals medkits
frosty terrace
yeah, that's another thing that sucks, mithrix really makes you think what items you can keep and what not
honest hawk
They were looking at changing the fight because of that
tepid wolf
The problem is that often you need said items to beat his third phase
lavish garnet
I just wish that you didn’t have to camp Mithrix out on a platform for like 5 minutes and you could actually get in his face during the final phase if you wanted
frosty terrace
actually, would stacking shaped glass be amazing for the last phase? makes the first 3 phases easy and in the last phase cuts his hp into a tiny sliver
tepid wolf
The short crystal burst in phase 1 would hurt a lot though
He also takes tonic afflictions btw
frosty terrace
he does now?
lavish garnet
Really? I thought he didn’t
frosty terrace
I don't think he did before?
tepid wolf
I only heard it though
frosty terrace
yeah I've fought him with 17 afflictions
lavish garnet
I was fighting him with tonic before he took everything and I ended up with 10 affliction
honest hawk
He isn't affected by afflictions now
frosty terrace
or doesn't take them rather
if the suck is done and you see afflictions still on you, boss didn't take em
honest hawk
I don't really use tonic anymore. Opus is good enough imo
lavish garnet
Oh yeah, this is a weird question, but when Mithrix takes all your items, do your turrets turn against you as engineer?
The first time I fought him and he sucked my items, I died to my own turrets
honest hawk
And opus doesn't hurt turrets!
lavish garnet
And I still don’t know why lol
honest hawk
What items did you have?
lavish garnet
I can’t remember, it was a really long run and on release day
frosty terrace
my turrets didn't turn on me when I faced him as engi
honest hawk
If you had the pot boss item or something that might have killed you
lavish garnet
I didn’t see them turn on me but the death screen still said it was them
Oh right
I always forget about mired urn
honest hawk
Mired urn + stationary turrets + fungus + razorwire is funny xD
tepid wolf
Tonic is still amazing if you get the fuel cells and gestures
The HP armor, armor, and massive damage increase help a lot
frosty terrace
in phase 4 you'll be left with just tonic
lavish garnet
I used to take tonic all the time, but then I figured out about 3 gesture 3 fuel cell royal capacitor
tepid wolf
At least engineer can palce turrets down before your items get stolen
lavish garnet
And now I’m a royal capacitor fan
tepid wolf
Royal needs next to no setup
frosty terrace
I think royal cap with like 10 fuel cells is good for the phase 4
honest hawk
Imagine if he stole turrets items as well and ended up with 3x your items
lavish garnet
that would be awful
frosty terrace
get some damage in and items back with royal cap
tepid wolf
You only get tonic if you can have it permanently on
Jade elephant is also fun if you get it with permanent uptime
lavish garnet
I’m kind of curious about how Mithrix works in multiplayer
honest hawk
He takes everyone's stuff
lavish garnet
He takes everybody’s items and uses it on everyone right?
honest hawk
Yup
tepid wolf
Also repulsions apply after armor so you can take next to no damage with an elepthant and repulsions
lavish garnet
I thought it would be optimal for my friend and I to stay on opposite sides of the arena and chip away at him from both sides
frosty terrace
I've heard mithrix is a lot harder on multiplayer
honest hawk
My friends and I just used 3 artificers
frosty terrace
I only play singleplayer so I don't know
honest hawk
Cheesed him
lavish garnet
But then Mithrix insta killed him and killed me in like 2 seconds because I was playing engineer with bouncing grenades and couldn’t reach him
I play on multiplayer a lot, it’s really difficult
frosty terrace
I don't feel like playing with randoms is gonna be any fun
lavish garnet
It usually just comes down to one person standing on one of the platforms and waiting for Mithrix to peek under it
I haven’t tried the game with randoms, but I’m sure it isn’t that bad
wicked condor
it's hit or miss, but overall usually not bad
frosty terrace
maybe I'll give it a shot today
wicked condor
although I usually play rainstorm lobbies so idk what the monsoon rando experience is like
honest hawk
The only randoms I don't like playing with are the ones who steal all the items and try to "carry"
lavish garnet
I definitely prefer just being in VC with friends playing though, so we can call out things faster and just joke around
Except one friend who deliberately takes all my fungus 
honest hawk
Tell them they have an addiction to fungus and need to get help
lavish garnet
Or I could steal all his focus crystals and then print them away if he takes my fungus /s
jade brook
Yo is nobody keen to know how they would adapt chef to ROR2? I saw that was voted again for new survivor instead of old charachters reworked
am I the only one..?
sage axle
i looked for 30 mins to find the portal on stage 2
am i missing something?
besides the portal, lol
jade brook
which stage is it?
jade brook
hmm should not be that hard to find..
sage axle
with the red banners around the playing area, hmm ok
jade brook
you can ssee gold glitters in the sky above the portal
sage axle
ahh ok tnx
jade brook
might be bit hard to see sometimes
but its the best way to find it if its hidden in terrain
jade brook
hahahaha good luck, might be best to just start over if your items arent anything insane 😛
sage axle
yeah i got killed lol, i was holding up pretty good for my 2nd run i think lol
its a hard game
jade brook
ye it is, playing on drizzle? or normal?
jade brook
ah, when in charachter select, you can choose the difficulty on the top right
sage axle
ohhh ok let me see
jade brook
you'll see three faces
pick drizzle to start with and get to know the game, ive got about 100 hours and still sukk so I still play drizzle sometimes ^^
its the green face
jade brook
hahahah I know how you feel
sage axle
i play alot of roguelikes, mostly enter the gungeon, its hard too, but adding the element of 3D with enemies all over can get overwhelming in the beginning haha
jade brook
ye ive played some ETG but im trash at it lmao
sage axle
i got 240 hrs in it, in the beginning i was really bad at it too lol
but this seems like a fun game to get good at
are there many items?
and are there synergies?
jade brook
hahahaha, you get to unlock a shit load of content, especially now affter a lot of updates, a bunch of survivors, each completely different
jade brook
ye huntress is awesome, and even for each charachter you can unlock different skillsets
sage axle
oh sick 😄
jade brook
its insane how much they added over the last year
old ledge
And there's secret stuff to find, tons of lore logs (still more to be added)
sage axle
which char do u play with most?
jade brook
oh idk, ive played a lot of mercenary hes really fun but a little tricky since hes melee
ah ye dont forget about the secret stuf ye hahahha, theres so much to it
but mercenary jumps all over the place and its stupid fun
jade brook
no thats... idk forgot the name lmao
sage axle
engineer maybe
old ledge
Loader. Has a grappling hook and a charge dash punch. Very mobile and fun.
sage axle
ah cool
jade brook
no engineer is a really weird charachter actually since your special ability is a set of turrets that take over your items
so attack speed and on hit items also proc on you turrets
aka, get far, relax and let the turrets clean up the mess jhahahaha
jade brook
as I said, every charachter is very different and theyre all massive fun
sage axle
i only killed the boss 2 times, its hard when theres a whole mob shooting u while u wanna kill the boss
esp those big guys that shoot lasers
jade brook
ye you'll get used to it xD
jade brook
whatever you do, just keep moving
sage axle
i also found a healing drone, that was cool
jade brook
never ever stand still, only as engineer between your turrets if you have AOE healing items
sage axle
are there more drones?
sage axle
yeah im always moving and jumping, i played alot of unreal tournament as a kid lmao
jade brook
healing, missile, gunner, and some special shit
sage axle
nicee
jade brook
a lot hahaha
normal pivot
Equipment, and A big ass combo drone
jade brook
and the rescue drone
sage axle
first my framerate was terrible, looked in some forums and apparently it chose my intel GPU lol.. switched to the 1080 and now its super smooth
jade brook
which heals like everything on the map
normal pivot
Also protip for bosses is to use you AOEs on the ground mobs while you use your single targets to burst the boss
sage axle
yeah i had this black hole thing that was great to keep the enemies down while i killed the boss
normal pivot
Or just split your attacking between the boss and the mobs
old ledge
I was always more a quake player, or doom. But UT was the bomb.
sage axle
yea im 32 lmao, UT was my shit back then
jade brook
ye that cube is hella strong if you combine it with will o the wisp which explodes enemies on death, creating chain reaction of death 😄
old ledge
ctf_face. The music is now in your head.
sage axle
lmao yes
hazy solstice
Any advice/tips on items i should look out for on mobile turret Engi?
jade brook
bustling fungus
old ledge
Tritip dagger.
hazy solstice
I meant mobile truret
old ledge
The fire rate on the turrets is REALLY good
jade brook
every on hit item in the game
old ledge
you can get visions if you want, but the beam is good with attack speed
they're basically walking commandos
in terms of proc power
normal pivot
Don’t bother
hazy solstice
Oh, so i should just stack all on hits and hope they kill enemies before they kill my turrets?
old ledge
Oh, and the death mark is good for mobile turret because the beam debuff counts towards applying death mark
normal pivot
But if you do want to play Mobile turrets stack up all the normal shit
old ledge
For survivabiltiy, i find transcendece and stealthkit along with razorwire to be good
for mobile turrets. The idea being that they can't stand there and tank everything, so make them hard to hit and track and focus on damage
chrome hedge
@old ledge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_0G6WPuss4
hazy solstice
Gotcha, tyvm
old ledge
their max hp is lower, so they're more vulnerable AGH NOW IT'S IN MY HEAD TOO
jade brook
bustling fungus if you have stationary turrets, stacking a few will create a huge healing AOE around them
hazy solstice
Also any tips on the last boss phase, the steal item one?
That's the furthest i've gotten but it owned me
old ledge
A-ANYWAY. mobile turrets have less hp. So transcendence helps fix it.
old ledge
That's the easiest phase as engi. He can't take your turret items. Let them tear him apart and take cover.
chrome hedge
Tips for last Mithrix phase - you either have enough burst damage to destroy him before he does anything with your items, or you camp the ramp and poke at him for several minutes hoping he returns your items.
jade brook
damaging him gives back your items
chrome hedge
There is no in between.
dull ingot
also, unlike every other boss, he's not immune to artificer's freeze
keep that in mind
old ledge
However, turret damage does not count towards getting your items back. So uh, take cover and let the turrets do their thing because you're not getting anything back till he dies.
hazy solstice
wait what
chrome hedge
If you have Preon/Capacitor and Fuel Cells, save charges for that part of the fight
old ledge
Yeah when i killed him with the turrets he gave nothing back. Until he dies. You get everything he didn't give back when he dies.
hazy solstice
Ok got it, also the escape part, i've never gotten that far - how many mobility items do i need to escape?
old ledge
so you have all your items either way, it's just you don't get them back till after the fight if you use turrets
...Hm. I'd say, like, a energy drink or a red whip.
chrome hedge
you technically don't need any mobility items to escape, though execution will be tight
there are floating rocks you can use as footholds along the way back if you were mobility screwed
hazy solstice
shit ok, thanks guys
old ledge
But it'll be way easier with some mobiltiy. The boss, too!
(goat hooves also really help your turrets dodge so a few of those are good regardless)
hazy solstice
Yeah, i find that without atleast the birdie or hopoo its really damn hard to dodge that dude
Lol speak of the devil, first item hoof haha
One small question - do slows from runald/chrono/turrets each give a stack of d mark?
old ledge
Yes.
dull ingot
I was just thinking about death mark earlier
old ledge
All are seperate debuffs. Same as how shatterspleen is a seperate bleed debuff from dagger.
chrome hedge
3 different slows ❤️
hazy solstice
Cool, thanks
dull ingot
does the game count the different sources of slow to be different debuffs?
dull ingot
I thought the game just considered it all one "slow"
is gas different from perferator in that regard? or dagger different from spleen?
chrome hedge
it does, for the purposes of the effective slow on them
but for Death Mark, it counts them all even if only the strongest slow is applied
dull ingot
still a literally useless item in the early game
chrome hedge
@hazy solstice when you're not playing Engi I recommend bursting Mithrix 4 to death until the next patches changes that https://clips.twitch.tv/SucculentTardyKleeKippa
dull ingot
worst item you can get from the first few teleporters
patent canyon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWY0yMttWwU fastest loss wr?
serene stream
So I thought that Huntress + purity could be kind of fun (because near infinite use of her blink) - Oh I was very wrong... It feels horrendous.... 0 DPS + you still aren't able to avoid everything so that was a failure of an experiment... The only ways I could salvage it would be a whole lot of crit + shatterspleen, but that'll salvage almost any build at this point
chrome hedge
@serene stream I used Purity Huntress on 4/8 of my Eclipse clears with her 
serene stream
I want it to work, it just felt like even if I got a good run going, it would have been better without purity
compact roost
If there would be an update in the (probably far) future that adds a new stage from the 1st game as a perhaps a 3rd variant of one of the 1-4 stages or as a 5th stage variant, which one out of those two would you picks?
Damp Caverns
Hive Cluster
If you can, specify why, I'm just curious.
old ledge
Hive cluster had this aesthetic, and i'd love to see those goop ladders in 3d. Also full sized mushrums for my nightmares please
opal plaza
Both seem like bad ideas because of how hard it would be to find the teleporter, but I guess it mostly depends on the layout
wicked condor
while I do like damp cavern's aesthetic, hive cluster stands out a lot more compared to the already existing RoR2 stages and they could do some funky things with architecture
old ledge
Also a proper underground level instead of just tunnels.
And with water not really having a proper graphical effect...
acoustic olive
@patent canyon HAHAHAHA
opal plaza
Yeah I personally think a carven would be better, assuming it was a big open area and not a bunch of tunnels
chrome hedge
kinda like the starting room of the moon
compact roost
Sky Meadow was changed in ror2 so it would feel better and it would be easier to navigate around it.
Abyssal Depths are kind of an underground level and it's done pretty good in my opinion. I'm up for any of these two but more towards Hive Cluster
chrome hedge
but more of that, I'd be into it
compact roost
also a possibility for CycloRe-Genesis
but still, it's a distant future or maybe not even a possibility
dull ingot
hey, im a bit confused about the requirements for the Wanderlust achievement for Captain, so far I've visited
Distant Roost, Swamp
Scorched Acres, Rallypoint Delta
Sirens Call, Abyssal Depths
Sky Meadow, Bulwark's Ambry
Bazaar Between Time, and Void Fields
do hidden realms not count toward that total? i've currently visited 10 zones but i haven't gotten anything, unless I have to complete the 10th zone and then i'll get the achievement
silver plover
they do
I'm not sure how it's checked. just keep visiting unique areas I guess
chrome hedge
might as well go celestial portal. Throw in a Beads of Fealty to be extra sure
mild brook
go to a moment fractured for an extra stage
you can continue your run after that
until you get the achievement
dull ingot
yeah im gonna try that once i can again
does it give it to you after the run is over?
mild brook
the achievement will pop out once you get it
tidal reef
Turns out 4 purity and an alien head reduce eviscerate's cooldown to below 1 second
dull ingot
i got the achievement just now, sick nasty
frosty terrace
first 25% off the cd, then 4x2 sec from purities
mild brook
Isn't the minimum achievable cooldown 1 second?
frosty terrace
0.5 sec is the min cd for skills as far as I know
tidal reef
1 sec is as low as you can go with purity alone
wicked condor
? pretty sure purity goes lower than 1 second minimum, acrid's m2 goes to about half a second with just one
frosty terrace
the min is 0.5 sec, if purity would make it 0, it's 0.5 sec instead
wicked condor
oop I misread, think the 1-second minimum thing was eviscerate specifically
frosty terrace
it's cool that purity is actually great for some survivors, while being absolutely horrible for some others
faint vector
bruh when you ask someone to stop taking all the boss items so they block you
the audacity of this mf
also purity scares me bruh lmao i dont wanna take it
tidal reef
If you take purity just don't build around proc chance items
Crit build is good with purity
olive sky
Yea is the spiky one you get from beating the game on monsoon
lucid coral
Ah, I haven't gotten that yet
olive sky
Its meh, depends on who you play
It lowers all cooldowns by 2 seconds but gives you -1 luck, basically has the opposite effect of a 57 leaf clover
lucid coral
Hmm, looks like it'd be fun if I go for Huntress
olive sky
Nono, not huntress
lucid coral
Her 2nd utility skill is my to go to
olive sky
Bad on huntress, she relies on procing items
Huntress base dmg is too low, she needs procs
And purity basically cancels procs
lucid coral
Yeah but I think it'd be fun to try out having a 2 second mobility reduction with her 2nd utility skill
olive sky
Get a hardlight afterburner for that
Lowers the cooldown of it and gives it 2 extra charges
lucid coral
Hardlight Afterburner + Purity looks like something I'd wanna try out and see how it goes
I think you can shoot whilst TP'ing
So I'm thinking if you can infinitely be in iframe
With your item procs being shit though
olive sky
Purity on huntress is always a no go for me, purity is really only good on loader, artificer, and acrid since their dmg is more burst and doesnt rely on procs
lucid coral
Ah yeah, Loader's punch is great. Her level scaling is so good too out of all the survivors I've played
lucid coral
Yeppo
I'd still want to try out Hardlight + Purity + Huntress' 2nd utility skill once I kill Hammer man on Monsoon though and see if you can hit infinite iframes
Maybe an alien head to compliment it
grizzled stump
just watched this absolute tragedy unfold
vapid raven
rip little mushrum
half birch
What's the best mod manager/loader? so i don't need to go to any webpage and download it manually, i have them all in it to search
wicked condor
I use RoR2ModManager, a bit buggy but it works at least
half birch
I'll try it out, thanks
torn jetty
Anyone know where i can find the game's Music directory?
chrome hedge
Purity on Huntress gets a bit too much hate.
If your damage isn't coming from random procs it's fine and gives you a ton of evasion
torn jetty
I need to replace the intro ost with RamRanch Cockship
Please, my life depends upon this critical information
limber fossil
me: one would be enough, just for achievement
also me:
frosty terrace
third silence between two strikes this week
tired juniper
man, i just wanted to get stuff from void fields but then it put in vultures, solus probes, brass contraptions, and elder lemurians in with syringes andrepulsion plates (i was commando). ended with tesla coil. i bailed. i'm not dealing with that crap lmao
hoary sky
That moment when you spend 5 minutes trying to end a run but you collected so many items you literally have to stand still to kill a boss
frosty terrace
153 000 trillion minutes? nice
stuck meadow
this man be playing rex since the dawn of time
frosty terrace
started before the big bang
radiant pewter
I think it will proq on every bullet untill the enemy goes below 90%
frosty terrace
I'm not sure but I think the damage is calculated at the same time, so all of them would get crowbar damage
hot flicker
Item shop
Has rusted key, rusted key, and question mark
Bought question mark
Gave me rusted key
radiant ingot
is there like a list of ideal items stack amounts?
im new so i kinda have no idea what im supposed to get and how much of it
polar anvil
not really
polar anvil
for inf stack items its really up to you except for some things
radiant ingot
so 10 for every white... any stuff that doesnt really benefit from more than a few stacks?
polar anvil
critglasses only need 9+both green crit items
radiant ingot
a few as in like 3-4
random laurel
the more wax quails you get, the worse they become imo
any more than 3 is a nuisance
polar anvil
tritip needs 7 to always proc unless attack has different proc coef
radiant pewter
For teddy bear 10 is a nice sweet spot, gives you 60% block chance. if i remember correctly
polar anvil
no,15 bears is the number,it gives 69% block
radiant pewter
im still deciding what combo of suplies i like the most
radiant ingot
so if i may ask another question
are there a bunch of items that are essentially beginner's traps?
half cargo
wrong discord har
radiant ingot
or in reverse, seem awful but are actually good?
half cargo
But let's have a clown character why not
polar anvil
only lunar items @radiant ingot
radiant pewter
and crowdfunder
radiant pewter
I guess shield gens might be a trap, since it cost you the OSP
radiant pewter
polar anvil
🔫 
radiant pewter
polar anvil
who told you shields remove osp
radiant pewter
it doesnt remove it, just when you're out of shield and you have more then 10% of your max health is shield. you cant heal up to osp
polar anvil
yes,that's not costing osp
in any way imaginable unless you are unable to not get hit for 7 seconds
radiant pewter
I should have eleberated
chrome hedge
9*, since the shield takes 2 more seconds to regen
polar anvil
even with psg its 2? i assumed 2s is for 100% shields health to regen
chrome hedge
I guess shield gens might be a trap, since it cost you interferes with the OSP
polar anvil
not getting hit is not an issue if you play right
chrome hedge
it takes 2 seconds for a depleted shield to recover regardless of how much of your health bar it constitutes
polar anvil
huh
radiant ingot
those imps are deceitful little fuckers
should not have spent so much time deciding on an item meanwhile
radiant pewter
im on the 50/50 side if i want shield gens or not
like that scaling is pretty good
chrome hedge
and during lategame Monsoon loops, losing OSP for 7+ seconds is a significant cause for concern
especially when Celestines and Malachites deal obnoxious damage
radiant pewter
tho shield does recharge trough anti heal
i mean you have to wait for it to wear off regardless
deep pecan
OSP reliance is a meme anyway
I'm not even sure it still works in a meaningful way after hopoo finally made Glass remove it
worthy sapphire
i do think OSP is a good mechanic
i say that because there are no fucking basic damage reduction items in this game
deep pecan
there are tho
worthy sapphire
https://riskofrain.fandom.com/wiki/Tough_Times there arent any like this
deep pecan
there are tho
frosty terrace
the green shield
deep pecan
just not literally exactly tough times
worthy sapphire
basic damage reduction items
damage reductions thats always happening at all times
frosty terrace
repulsion armor?
worthy sapphire
thats flat damage reduction
if an item similar to ror1 tough times gets added, i say begone to osp
deep pecan
it's flat damage reduction that's always happening at all times
frosty terrace
jade elephant usable gives armor, which is damage reduction
with enough drowned and fuel cells it can be up 24/7
worthy sapphire
i'd rather not resort to using broken lunar items
frosty terrace
then just use fuel cells
worthy sapphire
my fingers
frosty terrace
you just like to complain huh?
deep pecan
anyway, after this patch I highly doubt the shield interaction with OSP matters
worthy sapphire
i just want an item like ror1 tough times
deep pecan
maybe people have builds that heal from 10% to 100% in less time than it takes for a shield to recharge without using shaped glass
but I kinda doubt it
(unless you're using command in which case who cares lmao it's command)
frosty terrace
jade elephant gives 83.33% damage reduction. If you always have it up and stack tougher times and healing on top, you're pretty durable
dull ingot
Does the equipment "Super massive leech" heal engineers turrets? or just engineer
narrow gate
i hate being trash at this game, cant win even with great reds on first 2 stages 😦 rants over
somber tide
Besides glass artifact, what are some of the best ways to beat the mercenary ethereal challenge? (Prismatic trials)
limber hearth
^ was just about to ask this since I can barely get past 2 crystals without being tapped for 2 damage by a wisp
somber tide
My own theory is to just wait for artifact of glass in rotation, and then stack teddy bears and goat hoofs @limber hearth 
limber hearth
Blarg
frosty terrace
barriers probably help
limber hearth
I love this game, but this one thing really grates me that there is no other way to unlock it
somber tide
I think when the thing is no glass, the topaz brooch
Wait
Actually, with glass should be fine too
limber hearth
I know this game isn't easy street, but that is the hardest thing in this game.
somber tide
The Max shield will just be smaller
It would be easier if it was like the piercing winds huntress challenge. You get to build up items before you attempt the no hits taken
limber hearth
Yeah if it was like "Take no damage on the last level" of the challenge instead of the WHOLE thing, I'd be a lot more fine.
But again, can't even get past 2 crystals with wisps still in this game.
safe vapor
For mercs ethereal check the pins in #prismatic-trials
Also keep in mind some seeds will be insanely hard while others will be cheesable
So if you're hitting your head against a wall trying one seed just try back on a later one
supple widget
Besides glass artifact, what are some of the best ways to beat the mercenary ethereal challenge? (Prismatic trials)
@somber tide check the pins on #prismatic-trials
raw vine
For a flying artificer build (ion surge + glide to fly forever) - ice spear m2 or charged bomb m2 better?
Charged bomb m2 has the AoE, but arc makes it a bit tough to use in air-to-air
silver plover
i think your damage skills can really be picked independently of your R skill
i would say to keep balance, bring either Flame/Ion or Plasma/Ice
don't go all AoE or all single-target
raw vine
haven't unlocked plasma yet so yeah
but I don't think that it will be of much use in air-to-air vs. things like brass bells
or even regular wisps (an m2 bomb clears them away if well aimed...if well aimed)
silver plover
dealing with wisps as arti basically boils down to learning how to land M1 accurately. leading your shots and all that
you can use ion bomb to clear them, but if there are too many and you can't fall back on flame bolt, you're kinda boned
safe vapor
I'm not liking the arc on nano
silver plover
yeah, i meant for normal wisps
flying chimeras definitely demand more damage output
ideally by the time you go to the moon you should have at least a few backup mags so you can use your M2 more frequently
raw vine
brass contraption, greater wisps were all things that gave me trouble last time I tried arti (I always play flying arti now) because they bob and weave, and have high HP
silver plover
parts of attacks where you are invincible. "invincibility frames" @radiant ingot
radiant ingot
thanks
raw vine
and that run ended by getting machine gunned to death by a flying chimera LOL
and I did have like 3 backup mags ||praise the command artifact, just don't tell the MLG guys||
safe vapor
My head goes on a swivel w those flying chimaeras
dull ingot
chimera
dull ingot
also by the time i get to commencement they're barely worth fighting
ik that's on me i guess but... zoom
silver plover
there's no incentive to fight them at all, except maybe for items if you're running Sacrifice 
even if you're going to the moon first loop there's no reason to do anything but skip them
dull ingot
logbooks, lol
silver plover
well, that too, i guess
but after you get the logbooks it doesn't matter
dull ingot
aye
radiant ingot
Is sticky bomb still good to take on captain?
I'm just watching an outdated video on all the items
silver plover
all proc items are good for him because his shotgun is an amazing proc tool
radiant ingot
For context I'm watching the Woolie video
He mentioned them losing their scaling and becoming of lesser value
But that was before captain was out
sage axle
after u kill the boss the mobs just continue right?
i got killed right after i defeated the first boss lol
silver plover
the teleporter boss?
enemies that were already there stick around, but no more spawn
sage axle
ahhh ok tnx
safe vapor
Well, it has to finish charging too.
dull ingot
which map?
safe vapor
It do be like that until you're familiar with the maps
Often the glowing particles can give it away from across the map
If you can't see them it's behind something
sage axle
ok tnx
vale sigil
yo ive been trying to get gesture of the drowned and cant find hermit crab what should i do?
safe vapor
Titanic plains post loop
I mean they start spawning on abyssal depths
But to knock it out titanic plains (stage 6 version) is best
serene valve
Can you do Eclipse in multiplayer?
spare valve
no
tiny frost
any commando mains here?
sage axle
Anyone else getting some framedrops with alot of enemies?
Im on I7, gtx 1080 and 32 gb ram so i guess that shouldnt happen
tiny frost
how the hell do i win monsoon with him
tiny frost
dying easily and not having dmg
i try spam jump circling around the boss but lemurians still hit me
safe vapor
what loadout are you running with?
tiny frost
that's the problem, sometimes i can't get any on hit items in stage 1
i only have slide ability unlocked which i'm using
tiny frost
what difficulty should i do?
supple widget
everyone will say monsoon, and tbh, it really teaches you to go fast
rainstorm is cool
tiny frost
i mean for getting commando's alt m2
safe vapor
Whatever works for you Pastah, but without at least his alt M2 you're really at a disadvantage
Monsoon is better when everything is unlocked
Just play on easy no one cares
Unlock the abilities and best items
supple widget
just play what you want my man
safe vapor
commandos default kit is rough 😆
tiny frost
i like his aesthetic
safe vapor
his alternate kit is so much fun
supple widget
commando is so hard lol
tiny frost
i hear grenades are not as good
safe vapor
lies
supple widget
i feel like he is the hardest character i played yet
supple widget
also his mastery skin is so good
safe vapor
hell yeah
supple widget
makes me wanna learn him just for that
safe vapor
with phase blast, slide, and frags i feel like i am using all his abilities in perfect balance its such a good feeling
in the ZONE
lol
narrow gate
how do i deal with wisps as merc? i use my e and r and then just get blown up by the other 5 of them
oak crest
too much damage
safe vapor
how do i deal with wisps as merc? i use my e and r and then just get blown up by the other 5 of them
@narrow gate blinding assault remember whirlwind will keep you in the air too
too much damage
@oak crest jfc
sage axle
lol fixed my fps issue, my MSI thing was on ECO lol
real osprey
I need good ror backgrounds for my phone but I can't find good ones
vale sigil
hey ive been trying to farm gesture of the drowed and cant find hermit crabs, im on stage 6 and have been roaming around but cant find any
sage axle
@real osprey
sage axle
lol
vale sigil
huh
vernal slate
the people who made this game are EVIL
making a trail of crates that lead to a mysterious island in the distance then proceeding to put
F U C K A L L
over there
wicked wing
How would you make melee/blight acrid viable? Adding a debuff to blight that makes enemies do less damage? Add a new white defensive item against nearby enemies?
vocal haven
I can not for the life of me beat mithrix with the commando on monsoon
old ledge
@vernal slate the snow outpost right? There actually is something there.
vocal haven
I mean, I destroy him in the first three phases, but when he steals my items it takes ages to get them back and he eventually kills me
vernal slate
i didn't see anything, and i couldnt explore much further without being zipped back to the island
er, the main part of the level
vocal haven
it's the fifth or sixth time he kills me, it's getting frustrating
narrow gate
so many good runs today thrown away 😦 sad times
brittle cargo
@sage axle god damn she thicc
last hemlock
yo, protip gestures of the drowned, soulbound catalyst, and forgive me synergize way too hard. forgive me does a kill tick, and it triggers soulbound cooldown reduce and it places another forgive me. max 3. use willothewisp and gasoline. and sacrificial dagger also procs. fresh meat doesnt proc with forgive me
spare valve
@last hemlock lol you didnt play the first day of 1.0. that combo would literally break your game
they hard capped the number of dolls that can be out at a time to 3 because otherwise its an infinite loop of epic proportions
last hemlock
heck, i thought i made a discovery because i never saw anyone talk about it. thanks for letting me know lol\
real osprey
@sage axle I didn't see that until now but that don't really work for my phone
spare valve
dont get me wrong its still quite the discovery, probably one of the most op synergies in the game
it just used to be even crazier lol
last hemlock
id say engi with fungus and nuhkannas is way worse
heck, now i gotta combine them on command, lol
spare valve
why not get nkuhana bungus AND soulbound gesture forgive me
drowsy flame
cos forgive me is on kill
teal pawn
I want more interesting equipment like forgive me, its not amazing on average but with the right set of items it can go insane
drowsy flame
I don't know why ror1 items didn't all come back
glacial vault
I want Shattered Mirror back
drowsy flame
Gimme ancient sceptre ffs
glacial vault
Yeah. I get why it's not in but still I miss it
lucid birch
I was wondering how good is acrid with a tank build since his recent buffs, I know that he's godlike with Purity
If you guys know how to suggest some builds with him that would be fun
glacial vault
Oh also I want Dynamite Plunger back
drowsy flame
Why is acrid a tank
mild brook
I don't know why ror1 items didn't all come back
Too many of them, and ror2 is a different game; not a remake
vernal slate
How do I counter clay dude strider with loader, for the most part they're fine to deal with until they do the big succ
lucid birch
When you see the big succ, run as fast as you can, there is a max range
mild brook
Get away from him to escape the succ and he won't target you
lucid birch
Use your grapple and punch to get away
mild brook
After that you can re-enter the fight
vernal slate
Doesn't he do it after tho
lucid birch
There is a cooldown
mild brook
Also target the enemies he's sucking so he doesn't heal as much
Damaging him while he does it isn't really worth as he recieves way less damage
vernal slate
Noted
lucid birch
Also, if you play rex you can yeet him away
vernal slate
I wonder if throwing the lightning probe in there while he does it is worth
lucid birch
Throw it at any cluster of enemies near him, that way you can negate his healing by a bit
vernal slate
I haven't unlocked rex yet
On all the builds I think are going places I forget to grab the shuttle core
mild brook
At least you got the log
I have like 500h and that's the only thing i still don't have
Doesn't make sense how rare it is
acoustic zenith
still, it's crazy that it was first try
tight stratus
INHALES
you. son. of. a. biscuit.
alpine current
zinc kernel
@mild brook I got over 100 irradient pearls from a shrine of order if that makes you feel better
random tangle
this was pre-1.0 but i thought i'd share this anyways
almost infinite value, but the printer would shoot the item into the void
dull ingot
yeah I was wondering
if you could get a scrapper or a boss item 3d printer in bulwarks ambry
you could turn the artifact key into items
acoustic sphinx
After having RNG absolutely ABUSE me every time I played all day, got that clean God Run. FeelsGoodMan (on console, so no agency with scrappers or super OP bands)
Also, printers and chance shrines in the command stages throwing things into the void. Hopoo pls
midnight kraken
Is Engineer: 100% calculated buggy?
I'm about ready to put my head through a wall on it
midnight kraken
yeah
safe vapor
Haven't heard of any issues with it
Probably wanna stack AP arounds and use a preon
Grab a crowbar too
Both bands... What else
midnight kraken
Yeah I've been working on stacking the AP with the preon
acoustic sphinx
Artifacts of glass and command are a godsend for that
safe vapor
Oh yeah glass artifact of course
tight stratus
several (dozen) AP rounds, several (dozen) crowbars, several (dozen) other damage boosting items.
a thing that happens with this 100% calculated challenge is that the boss will take literally a single bit of damage and then the major damage dealer will take too long to reach it.
I dislike the Preon method (it's still viable though) because the main projectile will send out a tendril and damage one of the TP bosses, and it'll take far too long to kill them after that one bit of damage.
So instead I made my turrets into boss-killers that specialized in getting silly amounts of burst damage regardless of the situation.
safe vapor
Well there you go @midnight kraken
acoustic sphinx
Fuel cells and capacitor though
ashen oak
Is there a mod for this game that removes the items that get put on your characters when you pick them up? Visually
midnight kraken
How do you cheese the void fields?
spark narwhal
safe vapor
razorwire + bungus pretty much
tight stratus
How to cheese Void Fields? At minimum:
get some armor plates, and a bunch of Razorwire, run around outside the bubbles when you want to kill things.
acoustic sphinx
Will need some solid form of healing as well if you’re on monsoon*
cries in huntress non existent hp regen
warm fog
anyome finds it funny when brass contraptions start spinning?
last hemlock
i got mine with the tp in the nooky ledge on swamp stage, and i jut put mines where the boss could spawn and turrets clearly aimed at it. no glass. command (yes) and it was beetle queen, charge up grenades right before spawn and i got it in a second
How do you cheese the void fields?
@midnight kraken one or more teddy and one or more repulsion armor, do it still in easy- medium mode. otherwise, wait till you have god status. skip it if itll take too long to get newt altar (assuming monsoon trying to set up a god run)
i mean, if you can kill a parent in a snap and arent worried about posssible celestialss and malichites
warm fog
razorwire early on is really good
if you take void dmg you can pretty much kill everything around you
other than that, just pray that they don't get teddy bear, repulsion plates, tesla coils or chronobubble
safe vapor
just had such a good run w commando and i did the dumbest thing
backed into one of the columns on phase 3
T_T
like the easiest thing to avoid lol
the blue fire or whatever it is
vernal slate
Oh boy
So uh
I'm gonna assume you're supposed to loop a few times before you smack the last boss huh
safe vapor
not really no
vernal slate
Either that or I just had a super shitty build
safe vapor
you can, i prefer not to
errant yew
i always fight him on the first loop
vernal slate
I was in that boss fight for like 20 minutes
And I only got to the second half of phase 2
errant yew
^
vernal slate
I'll tell you in a sec I'm afk
tight stratus
a stationary target is easy to hit.
I learned this the hard way when I tried to tank a volley from an Overloading Vagrant the other day.
vernal slate
Vagrants are not to be fucked with in my experience
maybe in the first game but not here
errant yew
vagrants can be hard in the first loop. i usually dont die to any of their attacks but rather to all the adds hitting me while im standing behind cover
or you just spam merc iframes. that works well
vernal slate
half galleon
Alright but anyone else experimented with the voodoo doll? Pair it with a soul bound catalyst and desk plant and you can infinitely cast desk plants without cool down!
vernal slate
Alright uh
half galleon
I haven’t tried it with ceremonial dagger yet but I’m assuming that works too
vernal slate
I was trying out a modded character and didn't really intend to rush much cause I wanted to experiment with em
So I sorta rushed to the teleporter, beat the boss, then collected all the items I could after
I was well into HAHAHAHAHA territory by the time I got into that boss fight
errant yew
@vernal slate dont feel a need to grab every item on each stage. just pay attention to how well you are scaling with the difficulty. even just spending 2 minutes for a chest can be detrimental in the first loop
humble canopy
2 minutes for a single chest is atrocious
errant yew
i know. i have no idea how 34 purchases = 80 minutes
vernal slate
I guess the logic in my mind dictated that the more items I had the better I could deal with the difficulty
Well the character was pretty slow
humble canopy
time is the most valuable resource in this game
vernal slate
Were I playing say, loader, it wouldn't have taken nearly as long
humble canopy
the more time you spend, the stronger they get, the less relevant your items are, usually
the whole trick is to get a fool, like IcedT said, for how strong you are in comparison to the enemies
errant yew
you cant rely on items to help you in a run. think of this example: you get to stage 4 at 15 minutes and you only have 7 items. while you don't have much to work with, you can still manage the enemies well since you went fast. compare that to getting to stage 4 at 30 minutes but you have 16 items. the items you accumulated no longer have such a great affect since all the enemies got stronger faster than you
vernal slate
I guess that's fair
Also that 35 purchases for 80 minutes thing is probably because I spent so long on the boss
It was like 5 minutes just getting there
errant yew
this is the key right here: you can't control what rng you get(the items you get, what boss you fight, what spawns on each stage, etc.) but you can control how much time you spend going through each run
vernal slate
It was one of those flying machine gun fucks that got me in the end and it was cause I wasn't fast enough to get into cover
half galleon
Soul bound catalyst + voodoo + ghors tome and you have infinite money 🙂
vernal slate
Yeah that makes sense, I guess it's just a fear of missing out on items
errant yew
infinite money would be good except you cant have the crowdfunder since your equipment is taken
half galleon
Yeah true. You could just get ceremonial dagger from that last chest ur about to leave behind
infinite money would be good except you cant have the crowdfunder since your equipment is taken
@errant yew that’s why I just use ceremonial dagger instead, so the damage is taken care of 😛
Or you go multi and have both!
errant yew
if only i could get all these reds in my runs🤦♂️
tired juniper
wish me luck guys lmao
half galleon
I got 9 headsets the other day.
tired juniper
that entire run i couldn't find a capacitor or preon to try to one shot mithrix with
vernal slate
I've also never played multiplayer
errant yew
i dont play multiplayer often. i like single better since i have more control over the run
half galleon
that entire run i couldn't find a capacitor or preon to try to one shot mithrix with
@tired juniper take a ton of glasses, then one shot him twice, and when he takes ur items he has 1 max hp and you one hit him again!
vernal slate
i dont play multiplayer because i'm scared ill drag the team down and that it'll be super meta-heavy
im very new after all
tired juniper
i printed a ton of stuff, so if my atgs work with the 19 runalds i now have, i should be good
last screenshot before boss fight lmaop
oop forgot to scrap keys
wait if i have multiple dios, he only respawns once because after the first i get all my items back right?
half galleon
Lol good luck on stage 3
stuck meadow
I am currently on a monsoon rex run, finished stage 7 at 37min mark and in bazaar
I really want to obliterate
Scorched acres or rally point delta, which one is easier
errant yew
rally point is in my opinion the better stage. i think a bunch of people would agree with me on that
tired juniper
scorched acres is considered one of the worst afaik lmao
vernal slate
really?
stuck meadow
rally point it is then
good luck to me
vernal slate
i like it
tired juniper
if you have no vertical mobility then traversing scorched acres is super annoying
silent forum
scorched arces is the first map u will get 100% spawns of tar gunners
and no one likes those
Fiends
errant yew
scorched acres is annoying since there are so many branching paths as apposed to the open rally point. doesnt really matter though since i go quick on stage 3 any way
dim thicket
You at least hear Tar Gunners. Mini Mushroom is almost silent. Which, if you play with Artifact of Glass, is the biggest threat.
You hear Lesser Wisps charge a simple shotgun shot louder than a death star. Minimush just yeets a fucking chunk of lava bullshit and you die.
vernal slate
i guess i dont really think of not having vertical mobility much
dim thicket
Yeah, I literally got a blob of lava sniped onto my head.
silent forum
learnt that hard in the 16 artifact runs
vernal slate
i do play loader a lot after all
dim thicket
Like, I dashed right onto it, I guess...
silent forum
ahh then thats just a big oof
leaden light
Not supposed to be the hardest phase btw
errant yew
i wouldnt recommend fighting mithrix after the first loop. second loop is alright but anywhere after is a yikes
tired juniper
well
i was hoping for a preon, but i couldn't find one for the entire 20 stages
was gonna preon him with 19 runalds
leaden light
I got him as commando with a gestured massive leech lol
I don't think equipment's the only option
tired juniper
how is a massive leech supposed to help you when you have no items?
errant yew
the one run i did get him with mando, i didnt have to cheese him with an equipment. my max tri tip did the job in no time
tired juniper
i don't like not being able to aim straight up or down
leaden light
Then again I did have 3 atgs with 3 runalds, a random M1 would nuke his hp
tired juniper
i should have picked up the blast shower
double bands was on cooldown when he started pulling items
errant yew
tri tip is broken on commando. you dont even need an atg since all you have to do is stack attack speed
stuck meadow
yaaay I finally did it! thanks guys
tired juniper
i should have just done twisted scav lmao
stuck meadow
now I can finally move on to more suffering with arti : ^)
waxen girder
who would be the hardest character in eclipse 8?
fall damage, starting off half health, no healing, low tp radius, low gold drop, more enemy abilities, and enemies faster. Not sure what permanent damage mean exactly, no regen?
high crow
iirc "damage" simply lowers your max health
waxen girder
noooo
no way
so, does transcendence just override like 3 of the modifier then?
4
high crow
yea
waxen girder
I hate the fall damage, died to it twice on commencement...
past yarrow
I admit that even my spare pair of pants were ruined when I took a good look at this lot.
||
mild brook
overloading is far worse
imagine dealing almost double the damage and healing after 7s
coral spade
.> i just wanna talk to somone about how cool the idea for the chemist is
blazing cave
so is double rebar considered an exploit and will be fixed or nah?
dull ingot
it's a feature
sand gull
i forgot about their charge attack
waxen girder
I have only died to the 4 wheel guys though, their missiles one shot
sand gull
i haven't been hit by them, but i've seen what they can do
waxen girder
I died to the four leg guys 3 times and zero to these flying ones
waxen girder
engineer, captain, commando, and acrid, only characters I have made to the moon so far
sand gull
neat
chrome hedge
the 4 leg guys can't hit the broad side of a barn. Their tracking is terrible.
The flyers on the other hand...
mild brook
the 4 leg guys can't hit the broad side of a barn. Their tracking is terrible.
yeah and it's that way for a reason
dull ingot
for volatility
waxen girder
imagine being melee acrid and dying to them every time you get there
stuck sapphire
who has the game on console ?.?.?
dull ingot
ya then people would just run past them lol
waxen girder
I have only died to them as melee acrid
dull ingot
oh wait
waxen girder
I regret, intensely
waxen girder
each time they one shot me, I dont even think anyone ever dies to them but me
the flying ones never seem to hit me with that energy ball
dull ingot
if they were more of a threat there'd be even less of a reason to fight them
mild brook
like imagine them teleporting around your position when you're too far away
waxen girder
aka, parents
mild brook
basically
chrome hedge
I got killed by them once, but that's because I stopped moving for several seconds: https://www.twitch.tv/ryokoyaksa/clip/WealthyBashfulSnailRuleFive
mild brook
just so you would at least do something in the meantime instead of just runnin
hazy solstice
What is double rebar
cloud oar
Select if for both MUL-T M1 slots
hazy solstice
Oh, ok, but why is it good?
placid bloom
Be me
Start drizzle run to get commando 20 stages without lunar items
Decide on 16 lets do artifact to unlock
Hmm.jpeg
What should i unlock
Ah i know, METAMORPHOSIS
Enters stage as acrid
Err i guess ill respawn as commando after this stage
Stage 18 titanic plains still acrid
Fuk
waxen girder
Do the trial again, and hope to god you get commando
I have no clue if becoming commando unlocks the achievement though, prob won’t
chrome hedge
should've metamorphed into Loader imo
placid bloom
Do the trial again, and hope to god you get commando
@waxen girder thats the plan lmao. I paused it fer now
ivory rover
yo i just DOWNLOADED THE GAME for the first time anyone wanna play
yo ill have you know i main sniper smg tf2
limber fossil
dawn hatch
Do Beads do anything if you go to the moon?
Or are they just for the Obliteration path?
polar anvil
only obli
obtuse hollow
Bring beads to frog for secret ending
dawn hatch
Gotcha, thanks!
fallen needle
polar anvil
get an autoclicker
worldly epoch
You know I forget sometimes that loader is a female I usually just assume their a robot
I mean like come on it’s not as clear as arti or huntress
I just see strong power fist users as robots
Loader is just doom fist with two mega fist
dawn hatch
So beads is 100% useless on Eclipse
Hey, you can trade it for Pearls!
mild brook
it's not that clear
but she thic
also she's tall as fuck
compared to the other survivors
pliant meadow
impossiburu
placid bloom
@waxen girder i got it, i turned into artificer, then engineer, but still got it somehow /shrug
rocky widget
Are there any easy ways to get Zero Sum?
tired axle
you can wait for 99% on the tele before killing the boss
just to make sure there are no more enemies
torn pawn
go get em champ
rocky widget
Words cannot describe how much I am seething with rage
This stupid Engi challenge is making me grow gray hairs
placid bloom
which one?
rocky widget
Zero Sum
placid bloom
im trying to get the 1 second burst
oh. i got that by pure luck
i THINK my general strat was
pure missile spam?
because they should seek out all the major targets
got it on a titanic plains nice and open area
rocky widget
Should I use command?
placid bloom
it probably had a little of luck involved
i wasnt actually aiming for it
might be wise? probably a few crowbars and atgs to boot
just a thought, not sure if itll work
rocky widget
Yea
placid bloom
best of luck friendo
rocky widget
Thanks
placid bloom
fireworks also probably will help
slender current
anyone know when mithrix will be patched to not abuse items as hard?
digital mortar
Hopefully next update x) A public test build is currently going on where one of the focuses are to fix Phase 4 of mithrix
smoky idol
is there a way to enable advanced tool tips ingame
weak tangle
you cant zoom out fov can you?
warm apex
why does dying in a prismatic trial save your time ?
patent pumice
bug
tidal reef
Acrid may be a special case
placid bloom
jesus
if they ever nerf capacitor fuel combo i wont know how to tell people to get this after lol
finally thats all his alternates unlocked
now to work on mastery
rugged garnet
When I discovered that i was very disappointed when I saw it wouldn't even accept tonic afflictions in the first place
But the spent dio's interaction is nice
frosty terrace
another mithrix down on monsoon. The only hard part imo is the last phase, which is a lot easier with ranged characters like captain
just kite them around a pillar
in this run my first items were a stack of tri tip daggers, so the boss put a lot of bleed on my if I got hit
gritty bluff
does dios affect the final boss
frosty terrace
I had the heal over time equipment that saved my life
I hear dio can resurrect the boss, yeah
haven't had it happen to me, every time I have dio I steal it back before he dies
faint vector
bruh i fr do not understand the strategy behind beating mithrix
like
wtf am i suppose to do breh
frosty terrace
when he needles you, go behind a pillar
charge your m1 and only peek to shoot it and place some orbital strikes
kite him around a pillar
and in the phases before it, use a ramp, mithrix can charge up it, but will quickly fall of as he does dodges after attacking
faint vector
like for me its either running away with wax quail or hitting him and getting hurt
yeah ive been hesitant to use the ramp cause i heard its a cheese
frosty terrace
those ramps were placed there for a reason, I feel like
and the last phase is definitely meant to be kite the boss kind of fight, he doesn't charge you anymore and is very slow, making it easy to kite him
I'm still not sure how I'm going to do the kiting with melee characters
a lot harder to deal damage and return to cover
well I guess you just wait until the boss is right next to a pillar
faint vector
yea ill try kiting
its weird though they chose to make kiting pretty much the only viable option
it doesnt seem very dynamic lol\
frosty terrace
yeah, the needle attack is brutal
if you had tri tips or other on hit stuff, those needles hurt like hell
hidden dirge
and due to how many needles attack you, good chance one shot protection wont be of too much use either
out of experience 😦
frosty terrace
yeah, osp does nothing there
gritty bluff
question, if i do the trial of metamorphosis as mult and i beat the boss, do i get mults skin
"The Artifact of Metamorphosis will reset any skill-unlocking challenges when a new survivor is chosen. However, the Trial of Metamorphosis will not; an in progress challenge can still be completed as the new character, and challenges for the new character can also be completed."
faint vector
sorry i have no idea what the trial of metamorphosis is
tepid wolf
Mul-t is pretty good after the buffs he received recently
lucid quarry
any good tips for him
faint vector
for mul-t?
faint vector
if u go nail+rebar and hold down r, you can spam rebar almost as quick as with double rebar
i do a lot of that early on
then later game i take advantage of nail for its procness
faint vector
i do nail+rebar
lucid quarry
ok
faint vector
saw is too risky for me, often ends in an unceremonial death
idk about crap launcher but i heard double crap launcher is actually busted
faint vector
yeah you can spam those rockets
lucid quarry
will try
faint vector
im gonna try it rn actually
tepid wolf
Saw is often suicide
lucid quarry
thank you
tepid wolf
Mainly you have a machinegun basically
The saw deals a lot of damage and is one of the bost proccers in the game but mul-t doesn't have the tools for melee
lucid quarry
it kinda funny tho
tepid wolf
Feels about as painful to use as melee acrid
faint vector
ok i can kinda see why some people think double crap is busted
lucid quarry
too busted?
faint vector
its not insane fast and also you dont get infinite missiles, eventually they run out and you have to wait a few moments
tepid wolf
Double scrap or rebar still get outclassed by the allmighty nails
faint vector
but its quite fast
tepid wolf
Mainly you have to spam 2 buttons for the whole run
faint vector
could be better than i think after all im not looking to do a run rn just test it out
but yeah having a nail in your loadout is pretty much a must for me
lucid quarry
is there a reason to have to nailguns over naillauncher and scrap
tepid wolf
Nailgun has a lot of DPS and procs tons of effects
faint vector
yeah nailguns are pretty much the most optimal
i dont like to do double nail tho that sucks
lucid quarry
yes but why 2?
tepid wolf
Rebar and rebar are quite slow so good to have it as a secondary
faint vector
because some people think the other ones suck so much theyre not worth having in your loadout at all
tepid wolf
Double nail used to be the best loadout pre 1.0
lucid quarry
so like
faint vector
its a bit different now, like i said i do nail + rebar
tepid wolf
Since both the rebar and scrap got buffed quite a bit
tepid wolf
Except rebar
faint vector
yeah no bonus you just dont get the "impediment" of the other loadouts