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elite Hordes of Many on Sky Meadow are often more deadly than regular boss spawns.
ye elders and the uh, bells can suck cap's 3 balls
Than 4 overloading parents
where can I find info about what items to stack at what point? I know most of the white ones but I dont know which green items to stack except ATG
you could just play the game
i do play the game
And check the logbook
The game once spawned like 5-6 templars and a dunestruder in the teleporter event on acres
some items have logarithmic stuff some stack linear
Got machinegunned to death
Except corpsebloom
lol
not really, some items dont worth stacking after some point
if you have 10 of anything it's time to move on
i need to make sure
Guillotines use the same formula as teddy bears
stage 4 mithrix
like stacking crit past %100 not worth
Kinda
it's better to have 1 of each item than 100 of 3 items
takes items from right to left and gives it back from the first item he took or the last item?
Actually no
Here is my list of 100 of 3 items
100 wisps
100 atgs
100 clovers
Lmao
no damage for the initial kill
Atg
100 clovers will guarantee the ATG proc on any hit lmao
nice
Dealing damage with anything that has a proc coefficient
ah ye just on hit
you don't even want to do ten crit glasses, stop at nine
i wonder if more items will act like bands or not
Only thing that can't proc an atg is another atg
why stop at 9 when you can stop at 8
since harvester's and pred boost it by 5
don't want to waste that sweet sweet bonus 5
big brain time: 6 glasses, scythe, pred and a single clover
aaaah i can't beat phase 4

Hey what builds are really fun to do with command artifact ?
Use your imagination
I've heard wisp stacking can get wild
Managed to do a n'kuhana's opinion build on engi for example
It was a machinegun of skulls
You can also become unkillable with an elephant with a bunch if fuel cells and a gesture
Since you can take even huge hits later on
Looks legit yeah
Also aegis and shield gens can make you tanky as hell
Manged to get 30k+ HP that way as engi
Oof this game without friends to play with is boring AF. :/
Like a hedgehog game play with razorwires and lot of regeneration
Risk of rain 2 is pretty fun solo
After doing Eclipse 7 + 8 with Purity Huntress, I think Purity gets a little too much hate.
The game is really fun alone too
Dunno, I tried a few rounds and it's basically grinding the same stuff.
It's a dopamine rush power trip
How do you guys enjoy it alone? o-o
A few rounds
Like with friends its always better but the game is kinda fun
Yes you die a lot earlier on
@worldly hatch I enjoy solving a problem quickly, which is sort of what Eclipse mode demands.
Then you learn the game's ins and outs and start doing really well
yeah the game is random, but you can also supplant your runs with lots of less random things
A lot of people play in groups here btw
And just farm success if you want an objective
And the players are usually willing to help your learn
after completing Eclipse 8 I need to get my Lunar Coin count back up again...
Dunno, I keep having a hard time to find those teleports to the stage it's just boring
The teleports have yellow particles around them
Later on the the runs become a dopamine filled power trip
Hmmm, what do they look like?
Yellow orbs
or in the case of Sky Meadow, it's a light blue which can be hard to distinguish against the sky
Just look at any god runs
yellow orbs that fly towards it?
Red yellow flying orbs around teleperter
Are they anywhere on the map or just by the Teleporter tho
aren't they orange?
Each stage has a few possible teleporter locations
Hmm. I just tried joining someones match, when do I respawn?
it's currently bugged
you don't. If the game started already you can only spectate
you can't respawn
Oh wow, that's..... making joining stupid useless. LOL are devs confused?
You can go to #lfg-pc-ror2 (or whaterwer you play on) to play with people
Randos in quickplay are not always the best since it lacks communication
TBF, allowing people to join mid game with no items would be a bad time for the poeple in there
@worldly hatch orange teleporter particles btw: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/716864317?t=0h24m16s
Once you know to look for them, it becomes second nature. Though do remember Sky Meadow's teleporter uses light blue particles.
anyone else notice the test branch had new music? Some tracks were not playing and they fixed it or something?
sky meadow for example had new teleporter music
and when I stayed on distant roost for a long time, it sounded like another track started playing, or like 2 tracks were playing on top of each other
around 4-5min
Yeah some songs weren't playing since 1.0
Specifically the game was playing Koppen as fuck in Sky Meadows instead of Antarctic oscillation
I need to test the distant roost thing again, but I did not dislike the sudden change in music. It was like getting more intense the longer I spent on the level
which I think is good to make the player get a little stressed when taking a long time on a level
also what the hell? π first item, for free as well. Seems like a good start
you can spam the shift
yeah orbital strikes for days
you'll probably break your fingers in the progress tho
yeah thats alot of shift + 3 clicks
ror2 breaks your fingers anyway so all good
as captain, later on with massive attack speed you need to spam m1 like nuts
get your runs in before the captain nerf
@worldly hatch orange teleporter particles btw: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/716864317?t=0h24m16s
@chrome hedge thanks found it
if i die during a coop game can i be revived?
@worldly hatch not Necessarily revived but yes once youβre friends or group finish a Level you will be revived Iβm pretty sure if you die in a coop the only thing you lose is more items
The only way to be revived is to advance to a new level, or if you have a legendary item called, "Dios Best friend". Otherwise you cannot be revived
I see, thanks for your help π
holy fuck i did it. my first monsoon clear
Well done lad
Congrats
i kept trying with acrid, kept dying on stage 3/4ish, then tried twice? thrice? on captain and cleared it no problem
it feels like acrid really needs specific shit to ensure his lategame transition
I love captain, his Micro bot makes brass contraptions slightly less terrifying
it also makes the artifact realm less of a pain
i actually on the previous stage before celestial portal kind of brain farted, thought i fucked myself by taking Strides of Heresy cuz my brain was still in Acrid mode
ended up saving my ass in the rallypoint delta tunnel where magma worms spawned with malachite/celestine packs
but thankfully i gambled picking up the ci beetle item
now i think i can officially start joining monsoon mp runs lol

still not sure how i managed to survive getting steak and multiple squids at the start, no crowbar either
ye earlygame lel. also that stun grenade stack
i should look up how they scale
oh, 25% with 5, thats actually ok
i thought it would be a higher value for one then diminish significantly after
like 1 for 25%
3 chests 1 hack, oh baby
I died because I stopped to take a screenshot, bleed stacks from imps oof
The price of vanity.
Which class is the best to beat mithrix on on monsoon?
Probably Artificer. Good damage without relying on items too much, and Ion Surge hover means he can't hit you with any attack.
Aside from the needles, but that's not too big of an issue.
I can't even reach mithrix with artificer because her damage goes to shit so fast
do I take tri tip first or glasses π€
tri tip
i'd go for glasses
Can't say I agree, but hmmm... Engineer maybe? The turrets don't lose items on stage 4 and you can kite him around them.
its pretty good for the utility
bleed is so much damage, I feel like it beats 10% increase from glasses
also there's a tritip printer on this level
Engi gets fucked by him aswell. the turrets were instantly nuked and his lack of mobility meant he just two shot me
get 7 then
the power of bleed is unstoppable
especially since captain has a shotgun
How about huntress, then? If you have Ballista unlocked.
engineer & tritip on mithrix is a good way to power through the final phase
shotgun has 0.75 proc rate so I think I need 12
Good mobility to dodge his attacks.
Yeah i've tried huntress
honestly the biggest issue with mithrix is that you have a constant fight between mobility and damage
that ended my run
you either dodge everything and take 30 min of constant fire to get through phase one
or die to a two hit
Items you get play a big role, some runs are just basically doomed.
Probably just play whoever you're most comfortable with. Though I'd stay away from someone like Merc
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Mobility is king, you will always die 2 hits from mithrix unless you dodge. The longer you stay in the fight the beeter chance you jave at winning
I mean i always just get killed on phase 4
A bit on that, this is a bit of an outlier, but I have done runs with MUL-T and some tanky items. I could actually just straight up facetank him.
For phase 4, your best bet is to just burst him down as he's stealing your items.
You need to either nuke him or play at a distance, close range is suicide especially with multiple players
Kite him around the pillars or on the sloped ramps he wont climb
he climbs the sloped ramps
Foe bursting him you have to go to loop 2 or 3 because you will have so many items it takes longer to steal
I hate that stone titan can 360 laser you
Stone Titan is rather flexible, being able to to fire a laser facing away from you between the legs and all.
Stone titan is probably the boss i died most to
yeah with Stone Titan and Vagrant cover to hide behind is necessary
sadly it tends to catch me into the open or when i have speed
overloading elder lemurian makes me want to die
captain can delete some of their projectiles, but one got through and was enough to nearly one shot me
and it also quickly fulfills my request
I was just under the one shot protection range
I got hit by two fireballs in a quick succession so one shot protection didnt matter in my case
fun enemy
yeah
like I could handle ANY other boss in that run
but horde of many elder lemurians? just kills any run
captain without too many movement speed items can't dodge all of it or outrun them
that number is going up
i wonder which monster killed me the most
stone golem still holds #1 spot, those blazing stone golems can overwhelm you
yeah
i hope so. i hope i wont get one shot or something
Do the spinny ground attacks have a height limit?
dunno, just move in the opposite direction of the spin
insofar i can recall getting directly hit by the ground smash will erase your health bar regardless of whether you have OSP or not
so uh yeah, dodge that
the fire carousel probably doesnt have a limit
alright
did you win?
Yeah
nice
I've played 5 minutes of arti, I know very little about her π
Enjoy your captain
Arti has a nice time with Mithrix
wanted the achievement
oh you got the log too, nice!
maybe I should give arti another chance
didn't like her when I first played her
i consider myself blessed that i got the log aswell
I got the log the first time I encountered Mithrix on Eclipse runs
also with Artificer
charge cooldowns on Arti M1 π¦
imagine if there was an item to boost the amount of M1 shots arti gets
Can Risk of Rain 2's fullscreen work properly for ONCE?
I keep pressing buttons inside the game while working with other programs, Alt + Tab doesn't really help too
idk what you have running in the background but it works fine for me
also turn off keyboard stuff while playing
things like razer's color controls and whatnot
hot damn rejuvenation rack and leech seed is godly on captain
not sure if its a bug but engie shield does not block the sporeballs from the annoying mushrooms
That's because those are an AOE
i took ~ten tries at Artificer: Mastery (intending to beat Mithrix) without a win, and ended up being absolutely livid
one switch to Ion Surge and this happens
||(no, i didn't go for boss this run, because i had medkits/razorwire and no scrapper on the 5th and i was not losing another damn run)||
Speaking of mithrix and artificer i want to ask:
Are you intended to be able to freeze mithrix?(sorry for low quality)
none of the other bosses freeze, right?
nope
might be an oversight
but he only froze in this and final phase
huh, i could've sworn i did it in phase 3 once
i remember the first time i got to mithrix in the above attempts, i executed his first phase and got his log 
You can actually freeze him on all phases
However any other stun from what I can tell doesn't work
@next sun (sorry for the ping, just wanted to let you know)
np, anyway i don't think that should be a thing...
Why not? It's still a decent amount of health you need to go through in the first place?
i mean you can skip a very big chunk of health and escape easily when you need to heal, if you should be able to freeze mithrix i think other bosses would be allowed
and i had two alien heads so i could spam the freeze very easily
Well that is true, not all the time will freezing be possible
The drones of phase 2 are just straight up immune to it oddly enough
Also I wish ice wall did something to bosses
having multiple jumps makes you unreachable for him and you can almost always dodge his gun
Even a proper slowdown would be nice
maybe, you can get chronobauble, i don't think ice wall is intended for bosses tho
Chrono bubble is sorta useless
Unless they changed it recently
It only slows down the movement speed, not attack speed from what I've seen
it helps you make space between you and enemies
ye
But aside from that, most bosses dont move too much so chrono is useless on them
yeah most of them can just teleport or fly away
I dont know, I mostly play Captain now so its sorta annoying trying to use the air strike
On Artificer it's also nice do to her lack of mobility
yeah, she can have lots of vertical mobility tho, but most enemies can just shoot her down
Shes the best against Mithrix because she can dodge like 90% of his attacks
But I honestly dont mind too much, my only problem with is the final phase
unless you can instakill mithrix you're gonna have some trouble
Or have decent rng with item grabbing
My main problem is like red items or boss items
he grabs the last items on your inventory
Stuff like the loop, imp overload boss itme and a few others are just instant death
i got for some reason lots of boss stuff and red items on that game
and i don't even know the proper build for artificer
I just do whatever I like
In retrospect after completing Eclipse 8, I just recommend bringing a burst damage setup for Mithrix 4.
Fighting the 4th phase normally is an awful experience and ain't nobody got time for that.
He can also benefit from your items so if you had a health build or whatever you're very troubled
Do you run command or just pray?
i run command very often
Command in Eclipse.. π
Usally with friends I do command, but by myself I try my luck with rng
But then get completely fucked over by having my only means of movement and healing taken away for a hammer-
Command in Eclipse.. π
I dont know anything about eclipse other that its a hard game mode, thats it
i have yet to try the eclipse gamemode, right now i am just getting mastery on everyone
Eclipse is solo-only, no artifacts game mode with stacking difficulty mods on top of Monsoon, up to 8 different ones.
huh, alright sounds good for the hardcore players

I'm glad nothing is actually in eclipse but a number
oh nice
I can handle monsoon but not eclipse
i have to try that soon
@opal plaza there's even less, actually. When I completed Eclipse 8 I was quite cross to find that there's no indicator that you completed 8.
It's visually the same as having completed 7.
the command thing, I feel like its cheating but on the other hand, I cant remember the last time I had a good run without the rng screwing me over
Huh, how odd
like I can get N'kuharas opinion in the first 5 minutes but then not get any mushrooms, at all, in a 35 minute run
Also, for Mithrix 4, it turns out his swirling ground orbs can travel up the ramps and kill you. Take a guess why I know this.
I had really good luck on my last Mul-T luck by getting a red on stage 2
Oh that must suck
tfw you don't get proc items with a dps survivor, but you get them as Artificer.
just another reason to call in the nuclear strike to begin Phase 4 before he can do anything
friendly reminder that phase 4 is being reworked
Oh that's good
yeah, but for now, best strat is to kill him fast
I dont mind the items being taken, just it's far too strong on him
Or be engi and cheese it with turrets (this will be patched)
Or get a lot of fuel cells and the Royal or the BFG, and save them for the last phase
Also he's getting more blacklist items, like the crowbar.
Oh blacklist items, I don't think the Umbra should use Tougher Times
Speaking of items
They should make it so you cant be so really fucked over in void realm
Even Sawmerang can get the job done right now, if you don't get either of the aforementioned equipments: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/715759390?t=4h0m10s
I mean really, first enemies where elder lizards, they got repulsion armor, red whips and focus crystals
in the void realm either you get useless enemies with useless items or you get mushrums with a ton of syringes or enemies with glasses
Void Fields later in the run is often a death sentence.
Still annoyed how that killed another Mul-T run somehow
Do it right after stage 1, and before 4:48.
After that, the difficulty slider progresses to Medium on Monsoon/Eclipse and it will be significantly harder
Like why do mushrooms hit so hard??
You step on it and oh would you look at that, already half dead
on monsoon they just instakill at some point 
You step on it and oh would you look at that, already half dead
it isnt even blocked by engie shield
If you think Mushrums are bad now, take note of that Eclipse 7 mod.
Another run ended by me holding still for a second trying to figure out how to handle 5 blazing great wisps only to be completely melted
Yup. it makes cheese setups like Infinijade... necessary
You step on it and oh would you look at that, already half dead
@opal plaza i was going to say that, you get very fukd if you get hit by a mushrum
eclipse 7 mod is bad for like just couple of enemies including mushrooms
Well, also Wisps. And most bosses. And Mithrix 4 if you didn't burst him down.
His nanobots are the only reason I love Captain even more then I do
if you get drones as captain they also get nanobots
He is just the personification of fuck you to every projectile enemy
Mithrix 4 becomes a lot harder to deal with when he machine guns you twice as often.
yeah machine gun is pretty much the only thing that makes him hard if you have enough mobility
I like to get Lunars so Mittens is a lot more handicapped than he already is.
Also an idea I heard from someone
What if we just got an insane amount of shaped glass into phase 4?
One guy had like 28, wouldn't that mean like instant death for Mithrix?
tried mul-t with double rebarb build. it's fun for first 2 stages, then it becomes the worst strategy ever
Well, also instant death if you get hit
basically glass on steroids
nah, just dodge
It would be easier to build into 1 Shaped Glass plus a burst damage setup than a ton of Shaped Glasses, tbh
just dodge 4head
plus not dying if something breathes in your general direction while you weren't looking
One thing i'd like to try is get Mul-T with Glass, and a Chrysalis, and the Meteor
I still need to get the lunar shell thingy for my non stop berserk tonic build
Mul-T himself... isn't my playstyle though, i genuinely don't have fun with him.
One thing i'd like to try is get Mul-T with Glass, and a Chrysalis, and the Meteor
@tight stratus just pick loader and hold rmb instead
berserk tonic is kinda boring for me but then i get upset when i get instakilled
Gesture isn't even difficult to get. Commando's alt unlocks are harder lol
I just havent found any of the stupid things to push off of the edge
Find Newt Altar on Sky Meadow, Dream to Titanic Plains, clear teleporter, then work with the hermit crabs you get.
They only appear there after looping.
i still need to get commando's skills
Gesture isn't even difficult to get. Commando's alt unlocks are harder lol
no-hit Merc challenge
i havent found overloading magma worm and i am to lazy to stage 20
2 runs of Titanic Plains this way should clear the achievement.
I was trying till I got melted in the void realm
I even activated the last cell when I died
god i hope they change slicing winds to be useful
do it on Drizzle. There's no need to spend time with Void Fields
I was on drizzle and still got melted
Swarm check
sacrifice check
thinking outside of the box check
time to afk and check back in half an hour
http://puu.sh/GkEvl/5d9bddf5ac.jpg
On a mult with a huge amount of healthing and about 1500 health
Swarm check
sacrifice check
thinking outside of the box check
time to afk and check back in half an hour
http://puu.sh/GkEvl/5d9bddf5ac.jpg
@exotic radish damn
I hate the mushrooms with a passion
I experimented with Slicing Winds, it actually becomes self-perpetuating if you aim for things that will live long enough to get hit by the last cut.
Swarm check
sacrifice check
thinking outside of the box check
time to afk and check back in half an hour
http://puu.sh/GkEvl/5d9bddf5ac.jpg
@exotic radish afk farm
i can accept parents teleporting but musrhums melting you...?
Mushrums are evil.
ye
imagine mushrooms' healing zone radius scaling with difficulty so they heal all enemies 
Mushrum horde of many for Stage 5 boss β οΈ
Yeah
doesn't seem like much until the 50% teleporter radius nerf in Eclipse
Mushrum horde of many for Stage 5 boss β οΈ
@chrome hedge had that on stage 3, almost killed them all by playing acrid but got too greedy
I say that, but Brass Contraption or Elder Lemurian hordes are the actual worst for stage 5
Why even bother with stage 5?
Parent hordes are scary until you realize they will follow you off a cliff to their deaths if you jump off.
Wait really?
I guess that would be useful on anyone with mobility to get back, or loader
or a chrysalis, or Strides
or just a cube
@opal plaza had to find my VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/712622022?t=1h22m21s
beaten mithrix as mul T
gonna have to do that 7 more times to get MUL-T to eclipse 8
these slopes are definetly the best spot to fight him
@eager badger when you get to Eclipse 4+, you can just make him take 1/2 his health in Fall Damage
goes too fast up the ramp for his own good
did notice him taking a fuck ton of fall damage
on my other characters
i just left MUL T for last cause i dont like him that much
I don't, either. I left his Mastery for last as well
found a new strat, double rebar MUL T
if you hold m1 and R you get like a fire rate increase of like 600%
or even more, aka you fire a rebar shot every half a second or so
yeah, being able to slot in 2 of the same primary feels like a mistake lol
@eager badger https://www.twitch.tv/videos/713793595
break his legs
Does anyone have any tips on how to survive on monsoon
Lmao that fall damage
Play fast but be able to know when and where to stay depending on your power budget
as a general thing, find the teleporter quickly, then buy items after with the gold you get from the teleporter event
general exception being the first stage, where you'll want an item or two for the stage 1 boss since you start with a bit of gold
Thanks
on Monsoon/Eclipse it's important not to waste time. 5 mins/stage for 1-4 is a good general pace
if you want to fight Mithrix, spend a bit more time after the teleporter event on Stage 5 to prepare using the scrapper/printers that are there
if you're trying hard to get an achievement or progress Eclipse mode, then do Void Fields stage 1
It takes a while to do, but time/difficulty doesn't move when you're in there. 4 white items, 4 green items, and a legendary if you complete it.
Stage 1 void fields is practically mandatory for the later parts of Eclipse mode
Thanks
@thorn spruce I have a VOD of my Eclipse 7+8 completions if you think looking through the fights can help you: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/717904726
i will watch this
Can the the Captain not use his abilities in the Gold Golem area or the Acrid area?
nope, if it's a hidden realm then he can't use his last two abilities.
It's annoying, but with the current Bleed meta, you can destroy just about anything with sustained fire.
Makes "sense" but whatever. Thanks
is flurry or strafe better on huntress?
The flurry goes pretty hard with crits
Assuming you have perfect uptime with primary fire, Strafe is more DPS than Flurry until you reach 21% crit chance.
Even without the crit through I like Flurry since it deals more damage upfront when you're kiting with Sprint and momentarily looking backwards for a lockon.
Strafe's faster rate of fire actually works against that kind of kiting even in situations where it's more potential DPS.
FUUUCK horde of many, fuck that boss fight, elite parents that teleport to me? no way to kite them? killed me twice
Elite parents are the worst
@frosty terrace kite them off the stage https://www.twitch.tv/videos/712622022?t=1h22m21s
I don't play huntress, but that's a cool trick
only had one hopoo feather
I had shatterspleen, 10 crit glasses and a few tri tips as a captain
I was doing so much damage to bosses, but that horde of many just overwhelms me everytime
oh and shattering justice too
real good red item for captain
should still be able to get them to throw themselves off the stage if they're focused on you at all, even without much mobility. Just mind the fall damage
tfw the Prototype Drones from Commencment do not count toward Captains challenge
i mean, you didn't purchase them, so

i mean yeah but fuck
i cba to grind that much to have a chance to see a proto
I just wanna hack
Oh dear god Tesla coil as the red item in void realm is terrifying
Also TC's arent that rare?
On my second Rallypoint I found one well looking for them
I can remember literally 4 times seeing a TC in my 160 hours
they're not super rare, but they can only spawn on Rallypoint
I've seen them outside of Rally I think, though
They are very rare on other places if I'm correct
i'm fairly certain that shouldn't be possible, but maybe they can in super rare circumstances
if they can, i haven't seen it, and i have over 220 hours
Yeah, I've only seen one outside of rallypoint once
I'll check the gamepedia real quick
the wiki seems to say it's exclusive to delta
:cheems:
yeah, if one dies on a stage it crashes and can be purchased again
that's most likely what you saw
I have never bought one
oh. 
Except maybe once in a team game but that was on Rallypoint
Who knows, maybe it was just stupidly rare or a glitch
TC prototypes are not repairable if destroyed
oh, i didn't know that
Either way, just go on drizzle as Captain and just keep playing to get both achievements
Is artifact of sacrifice worth using with swarm? I know it reduces the chances but not sure how much
I absolutely remember seeing a TC for sale outside of Delta though, so that's weird
then you should have screened it due to being an anomaly
I'm still irritated that I managed to die on drizzle as mul-T with insane healing
The Tesla coil really hurts with 10 of them hitting you
I didn't know it was Delta only, so I didn't pay much heed to it
Sacrifice halves the chance to drop items, but theres a minimum and it halves inside a formula so in essence it actually doubled sacrifice drops. Ish.
It barely decreases them per enemy
Tesla Coil in Void Fields is pretty much almost always death unless
- enemy has no speed boosts
- they all are low HP mobs
- the last cell is in wide open terrain
- you are a ranged survivor
They are stupidly tanky even when looping
Rarely, you can get Tesla Coil enemies and live to tell the tale.
Yeah and then they get stuck in Terrain and go π
Also the shock sentry is surprisingly good on Captain
the who?
the beacon
Beacon, I kept drawing a blank on the name for some reason
Anyways, I tossed one down by my TC and it took about 10 mintues of abuse from a few bosses as I fought the teleporter boss across the map
So why can't you use Gorag's Opus on Captain?
Good question
When final boss steals infusions does he take away the health you gained as well?
Anybody know if you can get artifacts while in eclipse game mode?
Opus just boosts attack speed and movement speed no?
@cobalt rampart nope
@chrome hedge thanks. so eclipse is pure monsoon then?
scary void
Doing the Void on Captain seems so terrifying to do
Nah shotgun carries.....mostly.
yeah I have crit and shatterspleen
shotgun lays waste to all challenges
Shotgun may be amazing however it's not the best against anything tanker then a beetle
bro he has crit and shatterspleen
you can potentially apply 16 stacks of bleed in a single shot
yo i cant beat a round of eclipse to save my life, what is wrong with me
Man the artifacts didn't want to spawn any keys for me
did you have purity?
Who me?
artifact keys are based on luck in the current patch. It's fixed in the test branch
I have it unlocked but haven't found it yet
oh geeze this is a bit too much
I think sacrifice takes the cake for being the most exploitable artifact
at least now I know that the most fertile fields are those of the void
is there a courtesy rule for loot when playing multiplayer?
for chests not for boss loot
Like, complete randoms online? I donβt think there is one, no, other than spread the loot best you can
@slate kiln well,check who plays who and what loot fits who
^ Pretty much
Okay thanks
If theres some guy looting everything just go faster than him
LMFAO
are there any active servers for switch?
general rule i follow is, you buy it you take it
unless it's an item that's clearly meant for someone else
like, captain and acrid get daggers, engie gets shrooms
My friend helped me get half the characters today lmao
Thought it was gonna be more difficult
Now I actually have a reasonable selection
Captain is pretty fun to play
hm k never seen this before
Just lost to mithrix due to a ridiculous bug
I was playing multiplayer, my friend was playing artificer
He froze Mithrix during his big exploding lines attack
Then, after the attack ended, he IMMEDIATELY did it again
oof
And just kept doing the lines attack
Like 10 times in a row
Never seen a bug like that before
you mean the spinning aoe thing?
I thought he did that until you get his hp low enough to enter the next phase
hm k never seen this before
@leaden whale seen that once too since 1.0
I've had him do it for a long time too
It was weird tho, the attack stopped, he'd move a bit, then do it again
It was weird tho, the attack stopped, he'd move a bit, then do it again
@cunning topaz watamigunnado?
Carlos Matos GOAT front man
So I was using artifact of dissonance in the void fields and the first enemy is literally just scavenges
I literally gained over 100 items from their bags
Easy wins
nice
does mithrix use shaped glass? I have 3 of them and was wondering if I should just obliterate
I think he does take the effect from shaped glass
somehow I'm still alive with just about 200hp
I'll just play it safe and obliterate
Captain passive is pretty good
Buy a few drones and never worry about brass and lumerians
as long as the drones stay near you
their AI isn't the greatest and they get stuck on things
Not a big problem tho
Enemy tend to just focus on drones randomly anyways
unless drones get stuck
i love beating the final boss on monsoon only to get trapped in the floor attempting to leave
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/564544696995676177/746897731175317616/unknown.png four fuckin cheesemen just chillin in the air current
just beat the game on monsoon, was using captain at first, used artifact to change myself to rex
Is it generally considered better to do multiple loops if you want to beat mithrix on monsoon
or just go for it on the first loop
Alright
I usually get to the boss around 25 minutes but I just feel SO underpowered
Especially before 4th phase, I just can't burst him down fast enough
yeah, phase 4 of mithrix becomes just so much harder the longer the run goes on
even if you loop and you're a god in the first 3 phases, then mithrix becomes the god
if you play on test branch, you can't just burn mithrix down while he's sucking your items, he's immortal during it
I think the best plan is to just fight him without looping, and abuse the terrain
use the ramps, if you can deal damage from afar during phase 4, that's the best plan, be near cover and stuff
Wich character are you playing as
Any one with a ranged attack can just sit up here
But still bait out his needles cause they will very much hit you
play as the engineer and loop. attack speed and full crit, bleed, wisps for second phase. I won first attempt on monsoon
I think I looped once
It all comes down to how you deal with the 4th phase
Since he's extremely predictable in the 1st and 3rd phase
Engi can just do that
(tho not for long)
The turrets keep the items that you had when he steels them
so the turrets roast him alive 4th phase
Yeah and do it fast cause when the next patch comes out your turrets will lose their items too
π already done
Stacking 160 crowbars and lightning crit did a fourth of his health. oh no-
Does attack speed affect mercenary's eviscerate at all
i saw someting about
captain getting nerfed, is this true or just hearsay? Is he that OP?
I find he has no innate mobility or sustained utility so his M1 is kinda good for that reaso nto make up for it
i haven't seen anything about that, his orbital probe is getting buffed next patch from the notes i read
well, more like its working closer to what was intended
Starting to really fucking hate Wandering Vagrants
Breaking line of sight is such a pain in the ass when you've got a bunch of stuff around you wailing into you that will end you just as fast if you stand still
||mithrix showed me what pain is||
You have been punished by Mittens.
ANYONE WANNA DO A RUN?!
Anyone with modding experience can please help me install one quick skin mod?
Is mercenary's focus expose treated as a debuff that can proc death mark?
Expose? yes
I learned about proc chains today and I'm only just now realizing how broken Artifact of Command actually is
will o the wisp and preon accumulator, there's your proc chain
screen is literally nothing but numbers
ATG and ukulele too, having an ATG proc an ATG pretty much instakills whatever it hits.
so, Runald's and Kjaro's need a 400%+ damage hit to proc, but does this mean 400%+ base damage with no damage-boosting items, or 400%+ damage total
I had 2 crowbars on Commando, so in theory, with default right click, that should be 300+200=500% damage, enough to proc either band, but this did not actually work out
I'm inclined to think it's the former, but confirmation would be nice
@spark crow means 400%+ damage, in a single instance of damage. Hits that strike simultaneously that could factor to be 400%+ don't count
The only way Commando can proc bands on demand without other items is with Frag Grenades.
Or if his M2 gets a critical hit
so crits count towards the 400+% damage hit but not crowbars, that's disappointing but not that big a deal
well, it is a big deal because you don't always get crit and you're not necessarily guaranteed to not get bands from big chests, but I guess if they're working items later on, it's whatever
I learned about proc chains today and I'm only just now realizing how broken Artifact of Command actually is
Regardless of if proc chains exist or not, Command is broken simply because it removes the one balancing factor of the game; the random loot
Even if loot only gave a flat +/- to stats and did absolutely nothing else, being able to cherry pick exactly what you need and when you need it means you're never in any real danger
Just did a obliteration run and realized it was not monsoon
I want cry
it was great rng too
rex with crits, harvester scythe and clover
Has anyone noticed that you can see stars behind the planet in the final cutscene? I don't believe you could see them before.
Stage 4 just feels so bad to play on, and I'd say borderline impossible to finish on anything past 2nd loop. Chunking Mythrix to 1/4 health at the start, just for him to regain all of it because he took a couple medkits. It really feels shitty to have to shred a bunch of items specifically for the last phase.
why is it that they had to make captain trash on void fields?
He lost WiFi connection and dosent have mobile data π©
Like I really like him overall but that one aspect bums me out hardcore
Like his ship cannot come to void
no I get why thematically
but idk i feel like in the design phase they shouldve maybe considered that a reason to not make that a mechanic idk
I think they should give him seperate skills when in void fields
^
I've noticed that the later in a run you are with Captain, the less and less you actually use his Utility and Ultimate. His left click alone is enough for damage during loops, so long as you get enough damaging items
I don't do void fields later in runs tho
That's a good point I guess, but why do void fields at all then? Even though time stops, you still spend a while in there for 1 red
You can get a free red in Abyssal depths with his hacking beacon
Eclipse mode pulls no punches.
Early Void Fields is damn near mandatory once you push Eclipse 4+
trying to get his "visit 10 areas" achieve
Ohhh
I mean, there are more than 10 maps. I got it without going to void fields. It just takes a few loops and luck
I don't think he's worthless without his utility/special I just wish they weren't disabled
I agree with that completely
like coco said it'd be better to give him weaker abilities to replace them or something rather than render half the character moot
alright, its time to turn him into the mobile cannon turrent from clashe royale when hes in void fields
just seems like an off choice design-wise
Maybe for his utility special you can have an empowered shotgun and a assault rifle altfire
Empowered shot would be a single shotgun blast with taze power
True, giving him something like commando nades would be nice
yea commando nades were my first thought
And altfire would be similar to mulT nailgun but slower
I think the captains main glaring design flaw is the fact that he has a semi automatic weapon. I dont wanna have to crunch my fingers for an hour and a half for all his attacks
Maybe as like, the void fields help empower his mechanic limbs (as we can tell), allowing him access to maybe other abilities or just a buff to his shotgun
i feel that mobius
That's why I've reverted back to huntress lmao. Just hold left mouse for the whole run
i tap usually
idk, I play a lot of games where I manually click for things so that doesnt bother me too much
it'd be much worse if it did more damage at full charge
thankfully, its just a mini sniper at full charge
otherwise, just get in their face and blast them
I'm conflicted, cause I like the idea of his charge lowering the spread
just stack attack speed 
^
But I dont want to have to mash my mouse for all of his basic attacks and utility
gotta say, never have i loved behemoth more than with captain
with some syringes or other attack speed items, some bleed, I can button mash to my hearts content lol
My new favorite item is the shatterspleen. The stacking bleed is soooooo strong
i think the majority of my struggles with void fields comes from the fact that in the last 4 attempts i've gotten imps and 5 tri tips every single time
ah, I just came back and learned of captain and played him a bit, havent had time to see the neq blues
is that a new blue? or is that like a new yellow
yellow
It's not good advice, but try doing void fields on drizzle
: o
drizzle 
hmm, is little disciple now not #1 anymore
is that the lava talon one?
Yeah
perf and spleen are hands down the only yellows i give the time of day tbh
I like knurl early in a run for the regen boost
i can tolerate the rock
tbh, I dont like perf too much, as the lava is alright, but id rather take a disciple over it
Desiple is only decent on sprint characters like huntress and mercenary
I mean, captain is also always sprinting
because he has no movement skill, only orbital bombardments every 11 seconds lol
I guess that does give him an option for damage while running
I'm still trying to figure out the strategy for mythrix stage 4
So far its shred all my medkits before the fight
And try to camp him out by the ramps
i cheesed it with stacking 8 fuel cells
and a royal cap
and just nuking him every stage
royal cap machine gun is the most busted strategy imo
Yeah that's a good strat, but I want to figure out the "right" way to fight him
gesture + cap + lots of fuel cells
Without having to cheese
uh
the right way is for his hp bar to hit 0 
can u stack 3 preons and then also nuke him lol
Ah, I know
have 1000 tonic afflictions
this game is all about cheese don't be afraid to cheese the obviously cheesy boss
wait, do tonic affliction effect the boss lol
No, hes immune to afflictions
damn
But
You can stack shaped glass, so when he takes them his hp is tiny
Cause he one shot kills you anyway
I only ever fought him twice, both times because I found a royal cap and some fuel cells lol
So the extra damage doesn't matter
I cant decide which is cooler, white or black captain
Yeah, but it's basically the same. He chunks you to your one shot protection, then the tri-tip dagger he takes kills you eith the bleed
I like his white jacket
Looks like an admiral
this is fashion souls all over again (._.)
Alright time to go look for 5 hours for a tc-280
gonna turn on artifacts for this one, cuz im not spending 20 years going through 50 loops to find a rare drone ._.
been tryna find that one too
decided to do an acrid run instead and it spawned pre loop
very cool
stockpiling for pearls, probably.
...Something I thought about. Should the player characters in RoR2 really be called "survivors"?
If I understood the story of the game properly, they are doing a rescue mission, looking for survivors.
considering they come out of emergency drop pods, yes. REX was slated for termination, Mul-T probably got shoved into the airlock by Ron from Corporate after he flipped the bird.... I dot nothing for the rest.
I assume we just lost our humanity and killed everything for fun eventually
Acrid is just, acrid
Artificer survived being frozen inside a crystal, I guess.
Oh yeah, Acrid is survivor from the first game.
That explains why acrid is a survivor
oh yeah, Arti was imprisoned. Acrid is doomed to walk the lands of Petrichor V as long as the fans want to play as him.
Only Captain I think wouldnt be classified as a survivor
Commando is also in the ship for the rescue mission.
Maybe for stage 1-2 we were actually trying to do the rescue mission
but then things changed, and we decided to kill a random gray hobo on the moon instead
Rather than emergency pods, I guess they are just landing pods.
it doesn't have to be the same commando, that wouldn't make any sense
the fact that Cap has support abilities tied to the Safe Travels suggests that the ship is still functional, that and we board a rescue ship on the last level
haventy seena single pool and i spent most of this run with perma scanner as my active
Maybe it's just a wide label
Ehh, I think it makes plenty of sense. We don't see their faces, could be that is just standard gear for Commandos in the RoR universe.
@dull ingot Yeah, that can happen. I think they have a small chance to spawn instead of a 3D printer on like... three levels.
It would be odd for someone just to be called rescuer
@lyric oak Thank you.
rescue team
regardless as soon as they make their first shot or swipe they become survivors
it's a hard world out there
Rather, it's not the same Commando as in RoR1. Obviously the first guy we play as is the same as the guy in intro.
Last time the natives had someone fall from the sky, the alien killed their God.
I'm still confused about the intro, is Commando in the same ship with Captain
Oh a side note, I have a idea that could either be interesting or too gimmicky
I'd assume so
And yeah, probably makes sense that they are doing a rescue mission until level 3, then they see that the camp is abandoned and empty, and switch their priority to just getting out of the planet.
yes Bee.
Com is the first character you play as, meant to be an introduction to the game. it's just a fact that gets lost to Early Access players because... reasons.
dosent explain scorched acres tho
You know, isnt it just lovely when you come up with an idea only to realise "oh wait, that was done before"
I just feel like the situation in that room Commando was in still doesn't fit with the whole ship being fine and not getting struck by anything
My idea was more or less just a custom character I was going to probably mod until I realised the weapon is rather unoriginal
almost no survivor in the game itself is 100% original, go nuts.
I think it makes plenty sense. It's a classified mission, so of course the mood is kinda tense.
Well originally my idea was a complete melee and ranged survivor
why did we just decided we need to kill someone on the moon tho
if we saw rally point delta and descided theres no survivors, we could always just leave using a transport shown in the end
The weapon would be a scythe that could also switch into a ranged weapon, first idea was a bow, but I thought a gun would work better
When you're choosing the survivors, stuff is shaking around the room (the chairs is very identical in that background) so I presumed they got attacked or some shit like that
Maybe the teleporters are faulty?
or also maybe we go kill that moon guy because we think he killed the survivors we were going to rescue ?
The trailer for 1.0 said "Complete the mission" while showing Mithrix's orb
why did the mission objective shift
That's why they have to take the landing pods to the planet, rather than having the whole ship land. So they just go in, and use teleporters hoping for the best.
Well, technically if you think about it, the boss attacks first
So you would naturally defend yourself so maybe they just stumble across it
I mean, if we wanted to leave the planet, those small transport ship shown at the end could probably work
There is probably too much of a lack of lore to figure out
So, my theory is that there's something in the planet stopping the transport proper ships from reaching it. Maybe strong magnetic field, after all one of the stages is a ship graveyard.
Maybe Captain went after all the other survivors in order to rescue them
also why after we leave the planet, there are plants growing around the mithrix's head ? I know it's probably Providence's doing but for what purposes
So they can only get to transport ship from moon, since it has weaker gravity pull. Or something.
So, my theory is that there's something in the planet stopping the transport proper ships from reaching it. Maybe strong magnetic field, after all one of the stages is a ship graveyard.
Or yeah that make sense now
I think that scene just ment mithrix is ded
Siren's call is like a ship graveyard and those who landed on the planet face the same fate somehow
why spesfically siren call tho
also there have been records of other ppl sucessfully landing on the planet
Parent's log shows that
Maybe they are also there to re collect the stuff they lost from ror1 and save the survivors?
So the reason Commando is tense in the intro is that he knows that return isn't quaranteed. Both because the planet is dangerous, and because they don't have an easy way of getting out.
That makes sense
according to the log of teddy bear we are not the only ones sent for the mission tho
more ppl singed up apperantly
so there could be other parties doing a search while we exterminate all lifeforms
I think hopoo said at some point that Multiplayer is also canon
I really should read all the logs.
...Well, all the logs that are fucking done. That's one of the reasons I haven't looked into them too much.
logs are fun to read
I just dont look into them much, all I've seen so far is Mithrix and dropping Providences worms into a hole
On a side note, I dont get why so many people act as if hes the worst boss in the game
Phase 4
Sure he has some big problems but he isnt the worse
Phase 4 does need to make items like half as good on him
is thunder store ( the mod website ) safe?
No clue
it is insofar i am aware
I think Iβd be nice if he just grabbed your items and does nothing with it instead
Well, I like the fact he uses them
Sorta a last ditch effort
But they are far too strong on him
Thankfully I think they are going to rework phase 4
Apperantly itβs suppose to be more of a βoh crapβ moment
I mean, it is
Well rn is kinda certain death
Yeah
I think the boss and stage as a whole are good but can use a few changes
Mostly the stage could have bit more, structure to it and Mithrix is self explanatory
I think so?
I tend to see it in difficult runs with command artifact so I'd imagine its decent or good
Repulsions are applied after armor which is really good with the jade elephant
Do I get the mastery cheevo if I do the "a moment, Whole" route?
p sure you do but you have to actually beat the scavenger
hey how the hell does new multiplayer work
it's my first time playing multiplayer this update and i can't find a game that i'm able to join before starting or anything
also what is the tag convention that everybody's seemed to settle on
I usually just start a game and wait for people to come in because everyone likes to throw on a bunch of stupid artifacts. always people looking for an open game.
it's not in progress if the image is commando on the selection screen.
irradiant pearl @ 215 mins
praise providence
@serene brook look for the character load screen instead of a level. Rules arent important as host, you can put rule vote on and everyone can vote. Most my runs end up as monsoon, chaos, sacrifice and command
yeah i ended up looking for the select screen but there aren't many and when i join them they're just somehow like 2 hours into a run
Commando in the ship images should always be fresh lobbies. No, there typically arent many at any given time
make one and people will join
and then they will die round 1 and leave
just like providence intended
that's a good thing
more loot for you
full health?
I genuinely thought I had a chance at beating Mithrix on Monsoon for the first time, this time
ya
I know there's oneshot protection
probs got hit by 2 balls and didn't notice the latter
all i know is
i wanted to kill solus probe
game freezes for a split second
i am no longer lving
pelted
hey question does anybody have Mithrix's theme? Without the lunar chimera phase
you mean You're Gonna Need A Bigger Ukulele?
Yeah
Chris Christoudoulou youtube/bandcamp
Without the Lunar Chimera Phase probably not
Yeah without Lunar Chimera, probably not made yet
I appreciate the correct spelling of "ukulele" being used
since I see a lot of "ukelele" which confuses me
anyone know why my multitudes mod not working?
I assume it isn't updated to the most recent update
on the page it said to enter this command "mod_wb_set_multiplier x"
but there is no ingame console
There is
I'd have to look it up. Been a while since I've used it. 1 sec
okay
Did that work?
it did open the console
but the command mod_wb_set_multiplier x doesnt woek
"mod_wb_set_multiplier" is not a recognized ConCommand or ConVar
this is what the console say
?
yeah, horde of many is hard af
sniped out of the air the moment i ulted after hitting the porter
like i figured out how to deal with wisps, but this?
clay templar version seems like a real tough one
maybe you could levitate in a pit and make them all fall in?
there's no cover that can deal with CT swarm, if i jump up to hide and take potshots on the cliff, ill be letting more spawn
alas
they pretty much just chaingunned me to death the moment i hti the porter
its not like i got much hp/tankiness to ever hope to tank enough hits to lure them into the pit
the moment i spawned on that stage and saw their icon i ran for the teleporter cuz... where else can i run lmfao
i suppose an engineer could sort of deal with this by using turrets as meatshields
or a godly merc/loader.
As engi there I would hope I'm running bubble shield
i imagine everyone else is dead, unless strides acrid
If not....yeahhhh
Dealing with a horde of templars is extremely tough without stun grenades or getting lucky with stealthkits
ye with my kinda proc with 2 stun grenades and ONE stealthkit?
Repulsion armor plates help just slightly
naw lel. well. do they still fire after like they lose LOS?
I mean even regular templars ended my runs several times they are just that nasty
cuz that probably killed me IF my stealthkit procced
overloading templars leave a bomb on you with each hit, repulsion will do little to save you
that'll be it then
They stop firing if you go invisible but those 3 seconds are not enough
yea
and you'll still have bombs on you when it triggers
just no way to asve that run the moment CTs were selected for that stage kekw
Just got the arti mastery (and my last one at that) so hopefully I won't have to play arti for a while
i only got one so far, and that was cap'n
i been trying the whole day for acrid but... i dk, im doing something wrong i guess
same, I've only killed the boss on monsoon with captain
I go for obliterations since it is more simple
same, i only go for oblits
Mithrix is cheesable with arti at least
yeah, obliteration is way safer, but I like to take on the boss
ive never fought mithrix and thought "wow that was fun lets do it again" lmao
It was super cool the first time
i liked the contact lgiht level in 1 where you could essentialy just farm/loot the ship before you take on provi
The third phase of mithrix has killed me so many times
I mainly do it to get some info on the boss and if it should be changed. I'm playing on the test branch and would like to help devs with some feedback
The fourth phase can't be bursted in the next update
currently on the test branch, the boss is very hard on monsoon. The phase 4 gets me everytime
yeah he's immortal while sucking items
The current mithrix is already extemely hard without a god run on monsoon
the strat is to abuse ramps and stay far far away from him
He can sometimes charge up the ramp
