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safe vapor
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either is viable

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pros n cons

rich crescent
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I mean, It deals with hordes of enemies, and can do a ton of damage to bosses, but you need to land it right, and because of the way it works it can't hit AWUs, Jelly Queens, Imp Overlords, etc.

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The upside is the ton of damage, on a low CD.

safe vapor
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yeah i wouldn't take them unless you're also taking phase blast

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but generally, you would be

rich crescent
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The default R is does like 10% a lowly more damage than your autos so it does hardly any more damage. The stun is nice, but a few stun nades do that for you.

safe vapor
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sounds like youre coming to the frag side

sturdy sphinx
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does anyone know if attack speed affects swap speed for MUL-T??

dire herald
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ikr, feels underwelming for something on a long cooldown

rich crescent
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I mean its not that I don't like the frag,

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its just that I hate the default not being that great, and the nades being unreliable.

safe vapor
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welllllllllll

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is it really the nade that is unreliable

rich crescent
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Cant hit flying enemies when I need it to

safe vapor
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the nade always goes where you put it and explodes when it explodes haha

rich crescent
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that makes it unreliable.

plush flower
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i just cannot get this arti color. i try stacking crowbar and ap i just get so unlucky

rich crescent
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That ones a pain in the ass

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Are you trying to beat boss or obliterate?

plush flower
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beat boss

rich crescent
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Do you have jump unlocked?>

plush flower
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yeah

rich crescent
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Are you using it?

plush flower
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ive been using flamethrower

rich crescent
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Jump>Flamethrower for boss

dire herald
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woundn't oblierate be easier cause there isnt anything to fight there?

rich crescent
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Much easier

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But boss is more rewarding

plush flower
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how is obliterate easier

dire herald
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wait, so if you have beads and fight scavenger, but died in the middle, does that count?

safe vapor
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i haven't actually done mithrix with arti yet but id think to take ion surge

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flamethrower too risky there no

rich crescent
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You are only getting a few stages further, and you don't have to fight a very powerful boss

safe vapor
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obliterate way easier man

dire herald
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mitheix is just bad to fight with close range lmao

safe vapor
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mithrix is a beast

dire herald
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and cap apperently

rich crescent
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Hes fun to fight with Loader and Merc

plush flower
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so what should i take for an obliterate run?

rich crescent
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Fireball, the Nuke, and the Jump

safe vapor
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my merc mithrix kill was fucking harrowing

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jfc

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commando been my easiest so far

dire herald
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when i have attackspeed loader, i died in around 2 shot in the spinny ground thing

rich crescent
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How cheese are you looking to go @plush flower ?

plush flower
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all the way

rich crescent
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Ok

plush flower
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idc how i do it

dire herald
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preon fuel cell?

rich crescent
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No

dire herald
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zap fuel cell?

rich crescent
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Yup

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If you have Gesture get one of them, and about 4 fuel cells and a Royal Capacitor.

dire herald
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is preon cast time too long?

rich crescent
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Yup

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and you cant quick cast multiple

dire herald
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true

dull ingot
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personally enjoyed stacking that build with strides + glass

safe vapor
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wait, so if you have beads and fight scavenger, but died in the middle, does that count?
@dire herald it doesn't

dire herald
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damn

rich crescent
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@plush flower another cheese is to take Blast shower with some fuel cells, back up mags, and Syringes.

safe vapor
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dont underestimate the twisted scav, leave the beads alone if you really want to unlock it lol

rich crescent
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Syringe increases your Nuke charge speed,

plush flower
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the nano bomb?

rich crescent
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yeah

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Use the blast shower as soon as the bands proc so that the CD resets

plush flower
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so i need crowbar, syringe, backup, bands?

rich crescent
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Crowbar not important

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Boss has too much hp

dire herald
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boss bullet?

plush flower
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now this is for obliterate run?

rich crescent
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No for boss

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If you want to obliterate, just get wax quails, bands, and on hit items

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Crowbars are honestly c-teir items and shouldn't be sought after. Having a few is nice but buy APR Syringes or Goggles over them every time

plush flower
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whats like the best red item for arti?

rich crescent
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I mean, depends on the rest of your build

dire herald
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dio is always nice to have

plush flower
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eh, il figure somehing out. thx for all the tips

rich crescent
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Like if you got all your on hits and are just lacking in damage, a clover is the way to go, but if you doing great damage, a Ceremonial, Brain Stalks or Alien head are insanely powerful

safe vapor
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may as well do void fields too

rich crescent
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^

dire herald
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man i love ceremonial and brain lmao

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dont go as cap though

rich crescent
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Void fields like stage 2

plush flower
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null void?

safe vapor
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void fields no match for captains m1

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lol

plush flower
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when you say void fields do you mean null void?

dire herald
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fucking hell, i had a great run and then went to void as cap, that run is only great because i found a printer for hardlight burner

safe vapor
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kinda not joking tho

rich crescent
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Risk of Rain 2 Wiki

The Void Fields are a Hidden Realm accessible only through the Bazaar Between Time. It is a necessary location for the challenge ...To Be Left Alone, which unlocks the character Acrid.
The Void Fields can only be accessed via the Null Portal located in the hidden cave in the s...

safe vapor
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when you say void fields do you mean null void?
@plush flower it is through the null portal yeah

plush flower
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yeah ok

dire herald
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its free resetate

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i cant spell lmap

safe vapor
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fucking hell, i had a great run and then went to void as cap, that run is only great because i found a printer for hardlight burner
@dire herald yea void fields late can be a terror

rich crescent
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Going into Stage 3 sub 10 minuets with a 9 free items is pretty great

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Never go in late

dire herald
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one guaranteed red as well

rich crescent
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Going in early makes sure that if you get tanky enemies like Minishrooms and parents they can still easily die

dire herald
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i remembeer the last time i went, died on level 8 but had dio, then the enemy got the teslar coil on level 9

safe vapor
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noooo we do not speak of that

rich crescent
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Yeah you can get hella unlucky

dire herald
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i didnt even know elder mumerian goes there lmao

safe vapor
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anytime you say "i hope they dont get tesla coil", they will its a rule

dire herald
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ha

rich crescent
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which is why you go in early, so that if you get the clay templars to spawn with Tougher times, Medkits, A2G, Ukes, and a Clover you didn't waste a bunch of time

dire herald
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yikes

rich crescent
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Had that happen once with a friend. we both instantly died.

dire herald
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i mean, them with uke isnt that bad right?

rich crescent
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uke still bonus damage

dire herald
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oh

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yeah lmao

safe vapor
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uke is no problem but tesla coil is usually a death sentence

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like, oh, run

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run to the portal now

rich crescent
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Red Whip Syringe Tesla Coil Jelly Fish

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You will never escape.

dire herald
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i hate enemy that does homing attack that you cant dodge

rich crescent
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What enemy?

dire herald
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teslar ones

storm fern
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Syringe jellyfish does nothing

rich crescent
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Syringe Jellyfish makes it detonate faster

dire herald
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is there a way to get a custom enemy in ror2?

rich crescent
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because its a charge attack

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Just like Arti bombs

plush flower
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is there any reason to take more than 10 lens makers?

safe vapor
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nope

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if you have 1x predatory instinct and 1x harvester scythe you can stop at 9

limber plover
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if 4 captains stack healing beacons do you technically get 80% max hp healing zone? 🤔

plain viper
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Yeah

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They all do seperate healing ticks so it averages out at 80%/sec for 8 fields

slate stump
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ughhh i tried to create one of those text edit thingies that change the name of everything in the game and now it's all like [CHARACTER_SELECT] etc

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that didnt happen last time i did this

chrome hedge
past yarrow
chrome hedge
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it's going to be sad when you can't burst down the beginning of phase 4

foggy saddle
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Guys uhh
Does anyone know if there is already a release date for the new update for consoles?

past yarrow
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lol

foggy saddle
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What
I just asked a question
I would normally look for the answer in announcements but I couldn't find it this time

harsh garden
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@foggy saddle oct-nov

foggy saddle
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Oh
Thanks

harsh garden
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its not specifically stated, but its the best guess we got

foggy saddle
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Huh
It's better than nothing

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Thanks again

plush flower
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thanks for all the tips @rich crescent i finally completed a run

rich crescent
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LETS GOOOO

foggy saddle
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Wow
Good job

rich crescent
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Arti is my love. Shes so good, but everyone trashes on her cause she doesnt move fast

plush flower
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she has crazy damage tho

rich crescent
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Thats all shes about is dishing out big damage numbers

foggy saddle
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Artificer is nice i must say
But im not really used to Playing as her

rich crescent
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Shes definitely a mood.

foggy saddle
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Im too used to playing as mercenary
I was trying to get his mastery for so much time

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Im happy he got buffed

dire herald
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I've played about 98 hours at this point, and at least 70 of them is loader

chrome hedge
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Arti is my personal favorite. Being able to freeze final boss is a major boon.

foggy saddle
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Loader is nice but for me she gets kinda boring after playing as her for too much time

chrome hedge
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she gets kinda boring after playing as him ☝️

rich crescent
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The change to mercs alt R makes it feel like playing a different character and I love it

dire herald
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hmmm

foggy saddle
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she gets kinda boring after playing as him ☝️
@chrome hedge yes i know i'm dumb

rich crescent
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The change in the way to express skill as Merc with the slicing winds feels fantastic.

foggy saddle
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I need to play more as rex

rich crescent
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Love Rex too.

dire herald
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rex is hard late game cause i keep geting one shot though

rich crescent
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DPS king, the only downside is getting 4 back up mags and killing yourself

foggy saddle
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Yeah rex is fine and fun
But i never really play him the intended way

rich crescent
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I cant figure out how to get alt M2

wintry oasis
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Yo does anyone have any good purity builds for Acrid/Artificer, I'm having trouble figuring out what to prioritize

rich crescent
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Syringe

wintry oasis
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I usually stack like 3 or 4 and then just go for on kill affects

rich crescent
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Get some back up mags too for Arti

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lots of Attack speed boosts plus back up mags on Artificer allows you use her M2 like a primary

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it just does 2000% damage

chrome hedge
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for Purity builds, try to get 100% crit and bleed chance. It doesn't take that many items to do.

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Also consider Visions of Heresy on Acrid, since Purity works with that too

rich crescent
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Ngl I would take Vision on Arti too with purity

wintry oasis
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Ayy thank you for the help yall

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I'll try these ideas out

hoary nacelle
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VoH on acrid is super solid for the final fight. DoT from m2 and another ranged attack on m1

foggy saddle
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I never really liked Vision honestly but it is nice

chrome hedge
hoary nacelle
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Oh lordy, those non-existant cool downs

strong nest
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I refuse to play arti without the new lunar item

chrome hedge
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you mean Mercurial Raichis, obv

white bane
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what does the "The earth rumbles" message mean

trim niche
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beetles

harsh garden
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only beetles spawn

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boss will be beetle queen

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aka you get free stage

white bane
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but it wasnt beetle queen it was a glacial titan

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meesa confused

harsh garden
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oh maybe its not guaranteed then for tp boss

trim niche
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oh nvm

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not beetles, golems

harsh garden
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oh lmao

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whats the beetles one anyway

white bane
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yeah im seeing alot of golems

trim niche
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[WARNING] The ground begins to shift beneath you..

harsh garden
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yeah then its golems only

white bane
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holy shit theres so many golems

harsh garden
white bane
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oh my god my aurelionite just spawned ontop of a dunestrider

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that was the best thing i've ever seen

harsh garden
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screenshot bruh

white bane
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i killed it too fast to actually ss it

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im also upset if it helps

opal plaza
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I am now heavily questioning what's going on in game discussion 1

harsh garden
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didnt see anything weird, wdym?

opal plaza
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All I see when I accidentally click on it is "Where can I find the spiciest lore?" Then in reply someone sends a link to an erotic fanfiction

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Like a mintue or 2 ago

dire herald
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i want to see a ror2 erotic fanfic

dull ingot
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try looking now

dire herald
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nice

strong nest
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fanfic galore

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degenerates, the lot of us

dire herald
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of course its about huntress

strong nest
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Thiccc

opal plaza
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It would either be that or Artificer

dire herald
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"Wait no! Don't do it!" - commando, apperently

opal plaza
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Since i think they are the only girls?

white bane
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loaders also a grill

harsh garden
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loader too

opal plaza
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Ah alright

white bane
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i only learned that recently tho

opal plaza
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I mean, to be fair nothing is feminine about the design

white bane
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well also ror1 loader was a dude

opal plaza
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Then again the design itself is rather, basic

harsh garden
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well she is wearing an exosuit of sorts

white bane
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that too tho

harsh garden
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so hard to tell much, and "loader" can be any gender unlike "huntress"

dire herald
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apperently its a alien ref

white bane
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it is

dire herald
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i always thought loader is actually a robot

opal plaza
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I still need to check the log books of the survivors

white bane
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na mult is tho

harsh garden
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meh, doesnt matter as long as its a kickass character

white bane
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im wondering why the captians skin is so damn bright

harsh garden
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rex lore be like sad

opal plaza
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I like the skin to be honest

white bane
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rex is the most adorable character

opal plaza
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Its bright and a sorta ice white

white bane
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yeah its nice i just didnt expect it to be so bright

dire herald
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acrid's motivation is wack form the first game

opal plaza
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Also I've never gone from hating how a character feels to loving them so fast before

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For the first time earlier today I decided to try and play Mul-T

strong nest
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alt acrid is a coom goblin tho

harsh garden
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thats the best part

strong nest
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mul-t got that gratatatatata

dire herald
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i had a hella good run when i unlocked mult but the guy just feels so damn slow to move

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although its actually really fast back then

harsh garden
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well they buffed his speed a bit

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and reduced utility cd

strong nest
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they buffed utilities in general too

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they scale with sprint speed now

dire herald
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i nevered used mult utility, maybe i should try it a gain

white bane
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tbh i dont get why everyone says captians so op

harsh garden
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cause onhits

white bane
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yeah thats true i guess

strong nest
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he aint that op but his m1 is very strong for onhits

dire herald
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i mean, the air strike feels awesome

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and yeah, m1 goof

white bane
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i just had like a 2 hour game and i kinda just flew around spamming m1

harsh garden
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i like his m2 too, idk why people flame it

strong nest
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you are almost guaranteed at least 1 proc from every item if u hit all pellets

white bane
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i never really used anything else

strong nest
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taser no work on boss

harsh garden
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well most god runs are just click on enemy and they die

white bane
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it also goes away if you hit enemy

harsh garden
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well yeah its for stopping some elder lemurian or similar from bothering you for a bit

strong nest
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@harsh garden nah if u play loader or merc its look at enemy and go F A S T

white bane
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i wish they gave him alternates for his other abilities instead of just his supply thing

harsh garden
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my last loader god run was just spamming shift as fast as i could

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had multiple purities, afterburners and alien heads

white bane
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when i unlocked lightning punch on loader that was when i was like

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this character is amazing

harsh garden
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in the final level i got to the shuttle before its door opened lmao

dire herald
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ikr

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didnt know it need to open door lmao

harsh garden
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it doesnt

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it doesnt even need to arrive

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just blacks out when you get there

dire herald
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thats... wack

harsh garden
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well you dont get inside it so

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lmao what

white bane
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i love moderation services and things to do with moderation services!

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i got a moderation sandwich the other day it was great

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oh no my services

dire herald
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the fuck??

harsh garden
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well hes banned now so

white bane
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that poor bot was just trying to probably scam people

harsh garden
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likely yeah

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"give us mod, its free!"

dire herald
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who the fuck falls for that lmao

white bane
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small brains

harsh garden
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meh someone will

white bane
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i got so many of those messages when i played tf2

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so many phisher accounts trying to steal my strange revolvers

harsh garden
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for some reason steam scammers now comment on your profile so you add some different guy

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i guess its to avoid some kinda filter

dire herald
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nice, free friends

white bane
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i wonder how many bot friends i would have if i kept them all

harsh garden
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i add them just to see what they say so i can warn people about sites that scam

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had a list somewhere but its buried

white bane
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like in the ground

dire herald
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i too, do blacklist time capsules

harsh garden
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yeah i wrote them on a paper and buried em 6 feet under

white bane
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years later your gonna dig it up and be like hey i remember that website

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Sandra that played geometry dash for 2 minutes sent me that

harsh garden
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i wonder if anyone falls for those hot girl profiles

dire herald
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Hot Huntress In Your Stage

quaint zealot
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theres like 5 more around the corner

strong nest
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bing bong 👀

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your run is gone

quaint zealot
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"CANT KILL WHAT YOU CANT HIT!"

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famous last words

hoary nacelle
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F

toxic mountain
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I was not aware that he would actually use the items he yoinks so I made the mistake of picking up a genesis loop along the way

strong nest
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oops lmao

toxic mountain
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I panicked hard as soon as I saw the explosion start

strong nest
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yeah, the boss is strong if u pick up razorwire, tesla or genesis loop

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or little buddy

glossy light
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Is there any pattern to teleporter spawning? I'm kinda dumb and im loosing a lot of time finding it

strong nest
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just look for floating red particles

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the teleporter will always be under them

chrome hedge
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not really any pattern, no. What it constant is it will be a certain minimum distance away from you, so search the other half of the map

trim niche
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yay, got Chunked

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preon and lens printer in the 1st stage, 2 crowbars in time for second boss bagWTF

strong nest
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Fear the green splooge

opal plaza
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Is there any pattern to teleporter spawning? I'm kinda dumb and im loosing a lot of time finding it
Teleporters always spawn on the other side of the map from you

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Ah this chat died like 20 minutes ago-

trim niche
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huh, i always assumed it was just as random as everything else

opal plaza
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Oh someone else is actually wake this late-

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Yeah it always spawns at least on the opposite side

trim niche
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straya

opal plaza
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There are places the teleporter tends to spawn however

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May not be in the same spot but in the general place

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However there is always the chance of a completely random teleporter that goes places it never should be-

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Or at least is clearly random

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Still dont know why people suggest looking for the practical effects, easier just to look for the big red slap it sits on

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You could just keep pinging around to potentially ping the teleporter also

chrome hedge
opal plaza
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Oh god my eyes

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The background of the loading screen is white and I just blinded myself

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Wait-

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I just got flashbanged-

chrome hedge
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o.o

opal plaza
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I respect the flash grenade now do to it

trim niche
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all ability cheevos and a log, very nice

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anything special about arti's alternate abilities?

strong nest
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ice spear used to be way better than nano bomb but now it's kinda up to you

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flamethrower does better dps but ion surge helps sometimes, although vertical movement is worse than horizontal

shell gyro
dull ingot
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it's a special property of microbots

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drones and turrets also get one

chrome hedge
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Defensive Microbots is a special exception. All drones Captain buys get one,too.

shell gyro
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oh

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thats a lil busted ngl

mild brook
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yeah, the boss is strong if u pick up razorwire, tesla or genesis loop
nah just stay the fuck away from him and you're good

strong nest
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cries in merc

dull ingot
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laughs in slicing winds

frosty terrace
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boss doesn't use razorwire

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also doesn't use mired urn or crowbar in the test branch

plucky terrace
chrome ingot
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So can slide? And you get a vertical jump out of it too, which is great for early game

dull ingot
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slide is better because it gives you more ground mobility+doesn't interrupt your shooting

summer stratus
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slide is cooler

dull ingot
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but tbh, there isn't any "better" options

plucky terrace
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nah like you cant do it in the air, so in an intense situation its harder to aviod attacks

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roll only interrupts for like a second

chrome ingot
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Uhhh

plucky terrace
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yeah wassup

chrome ingot
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Chief, the side strafe jump doesn't interrupt anything, you keep shooting. And it's incredibly fast and far with the normal amount of goat hooves

strong nest
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slide is cooler
sorry but this is just facts

hazy sonnet
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@plucky terrace Counterpoint - alt commando dash acts as a free double jump

strong nest
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roll loses

plucky terrace
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no no like the roll only interrupts for a second so you really dont need to be shoooting, besides the roll (pardon the pun) of it is survivalbility and in an intense situation i feel like the roll is much better as a dodge than accidently using the tiny jump

chrome ingot
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But it's not a tiny jump. When you hold to the side or back in the air with that ability, you strafe really far

strong nest
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just dont jump br¤ther

chrome ingot
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It's not a tiny jump

hazy sonnet
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Like the alt commando dash gives you a far slide and extra double jump basically

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Roll is nice but ur breaking my balls here

plucky terrace
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jumping = surviving in RoR

hazy sonnet
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Eh, movement but same idea

plucky terrace
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hahaha nah im a roll main

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yeah movement, jumping etc\

hazy sonnet
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Bro have u ever just slid around with afterburner

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Its like jetset radio man

plucky terrace
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honestly i know why i think roll is better

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i used slide once and gave up on it haha

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i just like backflippin and shit

hazy sonnet
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You can like, alter the slide turn, rollerblade that shit

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It's just an all around good upgrade imo

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Basically speeding around at the speed of sound

plucky terrace
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yeah everyone says its better i just cant see why

hazy sonnet
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Might be you Doc

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Results are inconclusive

plucky terrace
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its definetly me i know that haha

hazy sonnet
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I meant, you might be the odd-man out, that was banter

strong nest
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i just like backflippin and shit
@plucky terrace a very fair point

hazy sonnet
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Slide + Shotgun on Commando with some focus crystals is like mmm mm lip lickin good

strong nest
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backflipping is indeed slick as hell tho

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it comes down to preference rly

hazy sonnet
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You know whats even more sick as hell

plucky terrace
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what

hazy sonnet
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When you play loader and do da loop de loop on your drone

strong nest
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YES

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just zooooooop around

plucky terrace
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it comes down to preference rly
@strong nest preach it bro

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yooo its the best

hazy sonnet
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I feel like loader's movement skills has a really high skill ceiling

strong nest
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and slingshot into bosses at mach 10

hazy sonnet
#

Because I practiced a bit for it and you can get some hella far slingshots even on Stage 1

plucky terrace
#

shes honestly so fun tho

hazy sonnet
#

With no items

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You just gotta get dat momentum

plucky terrace
#

which shift do you use?

hazy sonnet
#

Uh the alternative one

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There's no reason not to use it

dull ingot
#

the one near the wasd keys

plucky terrace
#

yeah same the quick charge is too good

dull ingot
#

can press with pinky rly easily

strong charm
#

what`s the best loadout on artificer?

strong nest
#

technically tho if ur optimising damage, base punch is stronger for proc chains

hazy sonnet
#

Loader is broken with alt-shift dash attack + crowbar/focus crystal, because the base hit does something like 3000% damage and cones for 1000% damage, and then it has a downtime of like 3 seconds

native hare
#

scorched acres amirite

plucky terrace
#

default imo but the flamethrower and zap jump is interchangable

native hare
#

fuck that stage

hazy sonnet
#

I've punched through 9 grovetenders once with one alt-loader shift

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Killed 'em all

plucky terrace
#

and the fact that the person you hit then gets knocked back into tghe cone

#

its hard hitting

hazy sonnet
#

Also if you get bandolier on loader

plucky terrace
#

shiiiii

hazy sonnet
#

It's literally lmao mode because it's like shock drones everywhere

plucky terrace
#

its so fun grappling around, sky medows :0

hazy sonnet
#

If you've been killed by a beetle you gotta leave the discord, those are the rules

plucky terrace
#

one sec

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i think ive let it on purpose tho...

hazy sonnet
#

Which honestly is very all around strange, I feel like I've died to a magma worm before

tired axle
#

i let beetles kill me on purpose all the time...

plucky terrace
#

how many hours you got bobby?

hazy sonnet
#

101

plucky terrace
#

this is unfair i got 300 haha

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course ive died from everything

hazy sonnet
#

Git gud

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Just like, dont die, best advice I can give you

#

Dying ruins the entire run

#

My most deaths is from Stone Golems so don't feel bad Doc

plucky terrace
tired axle
hazy sonnet
#

You ever turn the corner and see 8 blazing stone golems pre-firing on you?

#

I'll never forget that memory

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I was vaporized from existence

plucky terrace
#

Withor just beat me

#

nice

strong nest
#

im pretty sure i have a bunch of deaths from beetles from leaving games by dying to join friends

hazy sonnet
#

Excuses

plucky terrace
tired axle
#

most deaths for me is vagrant

hazy sonnet
#

I don't die to bugs, no worms no beetles

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You all are cowards in my eyes, dying to an insect

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In other news, you know what a fun gamemode is?

plucky terrace
#

most is lesser wisps for me

hazy sonnet
#

Artifact of Swarm + Artifact of Sacrifice

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Really really fun

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Smorgsaborg of what the fuck could go wrong

plucky terrace
#

lol too true

#

whats everyones most played survivor

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mine goes 128 merc then 112 MULT

tired axle
shut jungle
#

Not at pc but captain>commando. Just unlocked the rest of characters yesterday lol

tired axle
#

cap is kinda broken rn

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especially with visions

dawn hatch
#

How does Vision of heresy break him?

strong nest
#

he can shoot 12 orbital strikes with his utility instead of 3

tired axle
#

and even more if you get more visions

white bane
#

wait what are visions?

cobalt aspen
#

replaces your auto attack with those 12 balls

tired axle
#

it's a lunar item

cobalt aspen
#

but apparently its bugged to make you shoot 12 of ur third skill as ur auto attack

tired axle
#

only on cap

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there was a similar bug with huntress balista last patch

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but they fixed it

cobalt aspen
#

you my chick fil a @white bane

frosty terrace
#

I'm not really too excited about the visions bug on cap, I like his m1

cobalt aspen
#

seems a bit imba if you ask me haha

frosty terrace
#

with insane amount of attack speed, that m1 becomes something else

#

the original cap m1 procs stuff a lot faster

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shatterspleen and some crit glasses just feels incredible

dawn hatch
#

[10:26] Tomtomtom246: he can shoot 12 orbital strikes with his utility instead of 3
LOL

sharp zenith
#

That is incredible

dawn hatch
#

And yeah, the Cap's M1 has excellent gunfeel.

sharp zenith
#

It’s getting fixed tho lol

strong nest
#

same as ballista

dawn hatch
#

Still waiting on the full Heretic Set.

strong nest
#

missing an M2 and a special

dawn hatch
#

Just like the Captain! ; )

strong nest
#

oof

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cap special isnt that bad tbh

sharp zenith
#

I like the beacons

dawn hatch
#

I jest, hacking is really good to speed up the first loop and the healing thingie is handy in the portal.

sharp zenith
#

They could use some fun tweaks tho

dawn hatch
#

But his M2 has to be the worst skill in the game.

sharp zenith
#

It is

strong nest
#

tied with super jump from warframe

frosty terrace
#

yeah at first I thought hacking sucks. I kinda like it now

sharp zenith
#

Hacking is AWESOME

frosty terrace
#

legendary chest? free. Shrine of chance? free so you get both items no matter the fails

sharp zenith
#

Garunteed items from chance shrine and free Legendary chest

strong nest
#

what is the wait time for the legendary chest tho?

#

does anyone know?

sharp zenith
#

It’s like a minute?

dawn hatch
#

Yeah, about a minute or so.

strong nest
#

yeah it kinda feels that way

sharp zenith
#

Still a massive time save

#

His shock beacon is pretty garbage tho

frosty terrace
#

you can just clear the rest of the map while you wait for the legendary to open

storm terrace
#

you can put it down asap and then come back to it later its not like items despawn

strong nest
#

shock beacon should be replaced by a flag effect that boosts MS and AS

frosty terrace
#

or make the shock deal damage

strong nest
#

like the banner of command
i guess yeah why not for damage

frosty terrace
#

drop two shocks on a boss, the drop deals damage and then the shocks take it the rest of the way

#

could be good early

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but I still like hacks and heals more

storm terrace
#

having the shock chain from enemy to enemy would be cool

strong nest
#

actually here's the fix : make it a bigger AOE and give it self damage to avoid players just standing in the zone and being invincible

river sage
#

btw

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if you have Halcyon seed and Mired Urn

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your aurelionite aggros on you, but can't hurt you

tired axle
#

yes

river sage
#

i find it hilarious

copper slate
#

can u pick the halcyon seed with the command artifact

tired axle
#

nope

copper slate
tired axle
#

oh wait

#

i just missread that message like 3 times...

#

you can still get it from the boss btw

dull ingot
#

pls fix or abuse or smth

steel smelt
#

hey guys i'm new here. can someone tell me is there a way for MUL-T's scrap launcher to reload faster?

tired axle
#

if you use double scrap you can use retool to skip the cd

steel smelt
#

so items can't solve it?

tired axle
#

itemwise i think alienhead and purity work

steel smelt
#

oh ok thank you

fallow mesa
#

@dark helm a quick note on osp
i do agree with you
but thinking about it i do think OSP is the better way
the only way to prevent monsters from doing that much damage would be to make them do percent health damage which feels odd since it'd be doing different amount to different players and makes infusions worthless
cause you have people who will stack infusions and people who don't have infusions at all and by balancing for one and not the other you will either have monsters that can one shot players, monsters that deal no damage to people who stack infusions or monsters that deal different amounts of damage to players with different amounts of hp

dark helm
#

hm, true. then maybe I should pivot my stance to about osp, and some tweaks it could have. The tweaks 1.0 gave were a good step in the right direction, but as some people advocate for, I think it could get just a few more tweaks

fallow mesa
#

yeah, currently there are still way too many times i feel like i got one shotted
though most seem to be targeting getting two hits that do 50% of your health and kill you versus two hits that do 100% of you health not
and if we extend it to that there needs to be some sort of arbitrary limit either way otherwise late game when there are enough monsters hitting you to drop you from 100 to 0 in 0.1 sec you just won't die even if they are all only doing 1% of your health
i'm honestly not sure how I would fix OSP because of this
some part of me thinks the best fix for the above mentioned issue is reverting back to OSPing one instance of damage but then we're going backwards

opal crow
#

does dissonance artifact force Crabs to spawn before the loop in other environment?

tired axle
#

it allows them to spawn

opal crow
#

nice, thanks

dawn hatch
#

Does Dissonance allow for Scavengers and Void Reavers to show up before a loop?

tired axle
#

there is probably a very small chance

#

actually i think a saw someone who had a stage 1 scav

#

i wish i saved that screenshot

fallow mesa
#

this is a guess based on how many beetles you get vs harder enemies with both disonance and kin on
but I think that any enemy can spawn however the director still only has the same number of credits to spawn things with
so if in the first level the director has 100 points to spend on enemy spawn
it can spawn 100 things that cost 1 point each or 1 thing that costs 100 points, or anything inbetween
extending this to without kin, i'm assuming that it can spawn a combination of things that add up to 100

again thats all just guesses from my observations so i might be completely wrong

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i would also assume that the more something costs to spawn the less likely it is to spawn as it looks at all the things it can spawn, chooses one, and spawn it if it has the points
based on this the more points it gathers up, the bigger things that it can spawn but the more chances it had to spawn everything that costs less
an example
it has 1 point - things it can spawn are only 1 point things
it has 2 points - it can spawn 2 or 1 point things
3 points - 3,2 or 1 point things
etc

you can see how 1 point things had three chances to spawn
2 points had 2
3 points had 1
and at any point if it had spawned a a 1 or 2 point thing, it would go back down the ladder, making it impossible to spawn the 3 point thing until it had built up that many more points again
so to spawn the hundred point thing it not only has to pick not to spawn or things it couldn't spawn 99+ times, it would also have to choose the 100 point thing out of the x number of other options it had

opal crow
#

that seems about right. I was trying to spawn a Crab to do the fossil challenge with kin, dissonance, command, swarm and in the first stage i was only getting Alloy Vulture, Beetle, Bighorn Bison, Lesser Wisp, Imp, Jelly and once in a while Mini Mushrum and Stone Golem

dull ingot
#

Have they fixed multiplayer lobbies yet?

raw vine
#

Btw - am I cheating if I always play with command artifact on?

#

e.g. to rush things like fungus on engineer

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Or backup mags on acrid

strong nest
#

its not cheating

#

the game literally lets you do it

raw vine
#

Yes but is it considered nooby/crutchy?

crisp escarp
#

No it’s for fun

strong nest
#

kinda? depends who you ask. do what you want tbh

crisp escarp
#

But if that’s the only way you can play then yes

strong nest
#

just have fun playing the game man

fluid river
alpine current
#

i need some sleep

exotic radish
#

u afked to much in that run xD

alpine current
#

wow i just got shut down

modest galleon
exotic radish
#

beetles op

languid river
#

question, i've heard multiple people say rex can destroy alloy warship, is there a gimmick with that or is he just generally good for the fight?

fluid river
#

well uh, his alternate second attack can be fired off almost constantly, and his special can lock the thing in place (as well as every probe it spawns, immediately as it spawns)

#

also is worship not warship, don't think it's big enough to be a warship? but that's just semantics - prolly pushing too hard for accuracy
other'n that, dunno what others think of him being good on it but he definitely seems to have high points against it

languid river
#

oh it is alloy worship huh. ive been calling it warship the whole time im dumb as hell

fluid river
#

geheheh, yeah is worship

fossil tide
#

i think you can os it with his r

#

and the big pillar

fluid river
#

sounds basically the same so

.. erm??

#

like, pull it into out of bounds or something and instakill or???

languid river
#

i just wasnt sure if there was some gimmick with it, like using his shift to push out of bounds

fossil tide
#

by luring him near and putting the r on the other side of the pillar

languid river
#

oh weird

fossil tide
#

kind of like merc can launch him into the ground

fluid river
#

huh, so basically an exploit, cool

zenith nymph
#

hey, uhm... is purity ever really worth using?

#

I kind of always end up playing around proc chains, so it's hard to imagine it being worth the negative Luck

spark narwhal
#

Yes

languid river
#

i think its good on artificer. any character that isn't relying to heavily around proc stuff

serene stream
#

Characters like artificer and loader I’ve heard decent reports on since they use high damage and are less reliable for the proc chains

spark narwhal
#

using purity on loader is amazing.

zenith nymph
#

huh

#

wait, if you get it on acrid, does his R2 become free?

spark narwhal
#

was flying with thunder gauntlet

serene stream
#

You always have a 0.5 sec CD

cinder gate
#

Purity CAN work on most characters if you have a low proc build

serene stream
#

I want to try it on Merc or Huntress for a near permanent invulnerability run. I’m concerned that they’ll lose too much damage though and end up being invincible wet noodle...

languid river
#

hmmm.... merc/huntress run where you stack purity and shaped glass

cinder gate
#

It can def work with a bleed build on them since you can get to 100% bleed still

golden wadi
spark narwhal
#

Lol wow

forest fog
#

i wasnt in a rock area

#

was it a shocking ball thing

#

i think it was a shocking elites attack

#

and then i killed it

granite bloom
#

hol

radiant widget
#

I finally got the pearls for my item logs. Now I just need to farm boss logs.

thorny dew
#

You know the falled friends mod, taking over a turret etc, do you only get one drone life or can you change what you're controling?

mental pike
#

1 shot protection dont matter against a blazing elder lemurian on stage 5

sharp atlas
#

Don’t go near elder lemurians, they will fuck your shit up

runic frost
#

i just got the captain and ive always played commando, how does the .7 proc coefficient affect how many of certain items i should get?

tired juniper
#

mithrix boss bar won't show up for me :c

raven shard
#

What items should I look for while playing mercenary?

gentle relic
#

Attack speed

#

Also focus crystal. Items good on other survivors are good on him too

safe vapor
#

Merc is pretty versatile pretty much just meme build

raw vine
#

Does the difficulty bar (that goes up with time) just affect what enemies appear or also their HP/dmg?

wicked condor
#

HP/damage scales with difficulty yea

raw vine
#

Also, is there any way to deal with the boss who shoots tons of suicide wisps at you as acrid? They home in, fly quickly, and poison doesn't kill them in time

#

(Forgot the boss name but his other attack is a meat hook shotgun)

#

Without running away out of range of the boss that is, since those wisps hound you forever until killed(?)

faint vector
#

so

#

genesis loop went off

#

and everything died, including me

#

can someone explain wtf just happened

snow cargo
#

Killed by planet generally means the game can't find what killed you. This happens if you die to a DoT after the enemy is dead (like when you kill it with Loop).

#

The bombs or pots on certain levels also do this.

faint vector
#

Oh, I prob died to a debuff then

#

Thanks @snow cargo

snow cargo
#

np

tight stratus
#

I need a stronger CPU, my PC can't handle having over 300 celestial wisps in-game at once.

analog karma
#

I am sad that the artifact code in the credits doesn't have any easter eggs

faint vector
#

whats it do

analog karma
#

nothing, that's the thing

blissful quiver
#

You can get Lunar Coins from Forgive Me Please what

polar anvil
#

yes

analog karma
#

that is a pretty big think

slim raptor
#

So, how does the merc changes feel to everyone? Haven’t messed with them personally.

#

I think they sound neat.

#

I don’t play merc a ton so I’m not really sure.

tight stratus
#

Merc's Exposed passive makes things easier in the early game, you can take down most non-bosses without going into Eviscerate.

slim raptor
#

Does it make slicing winds actually compete with eviscerate?

tight stratus
#

Hmm, only slicing winds' last hit triggers Exposed, it's still inferior to Eviscerate for raw damage.
Slicing Winds is like a no-risk version of Eviscerate, tbh. it's capped at 8 hits per cast, and does slightly less damage per-hit.

#

I will admit though, i'd prefer it to Eviscerate if the only thing i'm fighting is Mushrooms. they have a habit of aiming for where your character's "hitbox" is, so when you exit Eviscerate, you end up standing in a pile of Mushroom floor lava.

tulip thunder
#

seed barrage vs directive drill, which is one is better for what? i havent played much with drill since it seemed kinda underwhelming, but id love to be proven wrong

tight stratus
#

Drill is uh... not the best. It's meant for hitting slow targets that will actually stay in the small damage radius. Imagine it like Huntress' Arrow Rain, except smol. and you can stack it with the backup mag.

slim raptor
#

Yea.

tight stratus
#

On Rex specifically, would you like to know a really fun build for him?

slim raptor
#

It’s not awful, as it does do more damage on paper.

#

But unless you dislike trading HP, I would suggest the normal one.

serene stream
#

Honestly I like barrage way more because you can rapid fire it so bosses literally just explode. with that being said as the game goes on and I get like 6 backup mags I start wishing I had drill because I simply can no longer fire fast enough to make use of my mags

slim raptor
#

Because it is possible to play Rex as a pseudo-tanky character since he can heal.

#

Honestly, with the new update, that isn’t really an issue anymore.

#

You can scrap the backups now.

tight stratus
#

listen: best meme build for REX:
get Seed Barrage, get as many Razorwires and Backup Mags as you can. and spam Seed Barrage.

tulip thunder
#

oh boy

slim raptor
#

In general, seed barrage is the best, but drill interacts with items like bandolier, alien head, Back-up mag, etc.

serene stream
#

True I haven't played rex in the update... got very sick of him after doing his monsoon challenge

slim raptor
#

lol

tight stratus
#

Both of the skills do interact with bandolier and alien head, but you can exploit his self-damage skills with several Razorwires. ||and then you can get ukuleles||

slim raptor
#

One interacts much more so than the other is my point.

tight stratus
#

i'm not sure I follow, they both take advantage of all those items.

slim raptor
#

Let’s take bandolier

#

For example.

#

What has more value, resetting a less than 1 second cooldown.

#

Or a cool down that is like 7 times longer?

tight stratus
#

ahh. now I get it. the benefits are more noticeable.

slim raptor
#

Ye. Also.

#

I don’t think alien head can reduce stuff to below a certain point.

tight stratus
#

yeah, alien head has exponential scaling. having more than four is kinda pointless.
but on cooldowns, consider: Purity

slim raptor
#

To be 100% honest...

#

I don’t even know what purity does. Mithrix has been super rude to every single run I get to him.

#

I’m assuming it makes all cooldowns basically 0 but prevents you from gaining more items or something?

tulip thunder
#

reduces cooldowns by 2 sec flat, all random effects are rolled one more time for an unlucky outcome

slim raptor
#

Ah.

#

Neat.

tulip thunder
#

equal stacks of purity and clover counteract each other

slim raptor
#

So it’s reverse clover?

tulip thunder
#

and whichever you have more of rolls

languid yarrow
#

Yep

wicked condor
#

there's a lower cap of about 0.5 seconds on cooldowns but it's still nice to have on some survivors

slim raptor
#

Cool.

languid yarrow
#

Luck is an actual stat, so it's just +1 or -1 depending if you get a clover/purity

tight stratus
#

It's a very broken Lunar, but balanced because the luck stat penalty affects so many things.

slim raptor
#

Does it affect teddies, unlike clover?

languid yarrow
#

Nope

#

Luck doesn't affect bears

#

Or rather, the bears are unaffected by the luck stat

slim raptor
#

Ah ok.

tight stratus
#

Yeah, if it did, teddies would be broken. you'd be unkillable with only like 10 teddies.

slim raptor
#

Wait. There has to be a lower % limit though...

tight stratus
#

for the teddies or?

slim raptor
#

Is there a 1% minimum for each luck dependent thing?

languid yarrow
#

luck is literally a stat

slim raptor
#

Like ATG is 10%.

languid yarrow
#

all it does is re-roll

slim raptor
#

True I totally forgot lmao.

languid yarrow
#

and it re-rolls per digit of luck

slim raptor
#

I always forget that it just rerolls.

tight stratus
#

it's an exponential scale, you can't get to true zero or 100%

#

Multiclover and fixed chance items are silly though. like with the ATG

languid yarrow
#

so with one point of luck, it isn't changing the atg to 20%, it's just rolling the 10% twice, and if one of rolls would trigger it, it goes off

tight stratus
#

yup

slim raptor
#

Yea, it’s 15% with clover.

#

I always forget that lol.

tight stratus
#

math doesn't work like that.

wicked condor
#

think it's closer to 19%ish

slim raptor
#

I can’t remember tbh.

#

Yea it’s 19%.

tight stratus
#

there you go.

#

if you have five clovers then a 10% chance event is technically a 40% chance event.

clever glen
#

Yknow, for a game with Rain in the title, there isn't much rain happening

tight stratus
#

You are the Rain.
You erode away the world, a relentless force of destruction.
You are a Monsoon, Heaven's Hell-sent gift.

slim raptor
#

Also there’s rain.

tight stratus
#

there is occasionally thunder on the wet levels.

blissful quiver
#

So uh

#

wow

#

I knew Command was broken but I didn't think it was THIS broken

#

Everything just dies

tight stratus
#

Behold: Min-maxing.

blissful quiver
#

Yeah uh that is way too accurate

tight stratus
#

Consider: Rex, with 50 stacks of Razorwire.

blissful quiver
#

M2 -> Everything around me dies

#

Like at this point my biggest concern is what white item should I be stacking now

#

I already have all the overpowered stuff

#

Oh yeah and uh

tight stratus
#

be sure to end your run before the game decides to start throwing hundreds of Celestials at you, they're harmless after a certain point, but they make your CPU cry

blissful quiver
#

Forgive Me Please is completely broken

#

I just press Q three times and everything is dead

tight stratus
#

yup. I avoid it because it takes the challenge out of the game.

blissful quiver
#

Command takes the Challenge out of the game

#

I just did this so I could get the thing for going 20 levels as Commando and now I think I'm violating the Geneva Convention

frosty terrace
#

second aspect I've found this week without any clovers. Also monsoon cap run is going pretty nicely otherwise too

tight stratus
#

It also removes 3d printers and Lunar Purifiers.

blissful quiver
#

I got the Ice aspect once and that was it

tight stratus
#

I'm only getting the Ice aspect for some ungodly reason. ._.

frosty terrace
#

omg, it triggers every time? so 8 lighning bombs every hit for 50% total damage each, that's real nice for cap. That's like another behemoth

tight stratus
#

yep. and it's separate from Sticky Bomb

frosty terrace
#

well, it was fun for a while, but did end up killing me

#

turning 50% of my hp into shield is not great and even bigger issue was dropping supermassive leech for that

#

needed that healing

tight stratus
#

Barrier builds work great for shield stacking.

frosty terrace
#

yeah I did have aegis

#

but I had no reliable healing source yet

tight stratus
#

Ohh, I see.

radiant widget
#

Random question. I read on the wiki that teleporter bosses have a 3% log drop instead of 1%. I know AWU doesnt count as one. But does Mithrix? Or are they both 1%

frosty terrace
#

not sure about the %, but mithrix at least gives you multiple chances to get the log as it can drop after every phase

radiant widget
#

So swarm gives 6 opportunities then?

frosty terrace
#

probably

radiant widget
#

Im going to have to do more clover stacking runs to try and square these away

#

I think my max stack was like 13 but I never got awu from it.

frosty terrace
#

yeah surprisingly hard to get those logs to drop

radiant widget
#

Tbh this is giving me ptsd though since to this day providence monster log is my only barrier to 100% ror1

frosty terrace
#

I got awu and mithrix without clovers, but did some clover stacking for the chimera wisp and parent logs

radiant widget
#

Feels like a lot of people didnt bother with that lmao

tired juniper
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if you have 50% health and 50% barrier, does a strong enough attack b ring you to 10% health due to osp, or does it kill you because you didn't have 90% of your health bar?

frosty terrace
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and that playtime is off, I played on another account as well

tired juniper
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oops wrong section

frosty terrace
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pretty sure you need your health back up in that situation

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barrier doesn't give the osp back I believe

tired juniper
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was hoping barrier would still affect osp, but not basically give it to you twice if you had full health and barriers (as i believe it once did)

radiant widget
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Im going to have to do clover math again when im at my computer...

clear plover
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Shifting from Acrid primary to Hungering Gaze with Brain Stalks feels really good

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Like taking a breath after holding it for a long time

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Like new pants on new year's eve

slim raptor
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I know what it is I am not in the server.

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@golden iris

blissful quiver
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Uh I think my game just crashed

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What did I do

slim raptor
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Exist for too long probably.

blissful quiver
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I just wanted to go to the Void Fields

slim raptor
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Not saying that as a joke.

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The game sometimes has a seizure due to just how many enemies it spawns at later stages.

blissful quiver
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I was in the Newt place

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And I tried to go to Void Fields so I could get its log and it just

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Died

slim raptor
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hm

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PC or Console?

blissful quiver
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I can pause the game but now I'm just at the pause sceen and I cant move the mouse or do anything

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PC

slim raptor
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They should help a ton more, and ghor normally helps there too.

blissful quiver
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I mean I was breaking the game with command is that why

slim raptor
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Maybe.

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What did you have?

blissful quiver
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What didnt I have

slim raptor
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Did you have a large stack of anything in particular?

blissful quiver
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I cant check my items but it was a lot

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I had 10 of a lot of white items and 5 of most greens

slim raptor
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idk.

blissful quiver
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Various reds

slim raptor
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Could have been some sort of weird interaction.

blissful quiver
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And I just picked up Gesture of the Drowned with Forgive Me Please

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And a lot of on kill effects

slim raptor
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Could be your issue lmao.

blissful quiver
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I accidentally set Newt on fire and he kicked me out :(

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Anyway I'll do that

slim raptor
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But yea, I think forgive me please was your issue.

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It's still a bit wonky with gesture.

blissful quiver
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I made forgive me really strong with that run

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I had every on kill I think

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So probably

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Also apparently in the one run I had the doll I used it 507 times

slim raptor
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nice

white bane
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bagel with butter

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or cream cheese

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exactly

faint vector
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i find captain not having his shift and r in hidden realms an odd choice considering its already been established runs are anachronistic in nature

tulip thunder
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yeah exactly

steady tangle
tulip thunder
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it's for lore reasons but show me one person who would go "half of my kit doesn't get gimped in this secret area, damn this game's lore sucks 😔"

dull ingot
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I hope they patch that when they release it on console.

tulip thunder
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two bands and rack is nice

dull ingot
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Don't even know what the bands do

steady tangle
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my character is REX

dull ingot
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@steady tangle have you unlocked the one item from the swamp area?

slow raft
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Hey everyone! New to the discord, but been playing since early beta. Just started to get serious and I gotta say I'm loving Rex like you won't believe.

faint vector
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rex my first main

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anyhow bruh

red echo
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rex go brrr

faint vector
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is it normal to get a horde of many overloading elder lemurians on stage 2

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because that is what just happened to. me

red echo
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are you playing on dissonance

faint vector
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no artifacts

red echo
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because that shouldn't happen otherwise

slow raft
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My first main was MulT but man Rex has taken over me the past couple of weeks

faint vector
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just captain on monsoon

red echo
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wack

faint vector
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rex is a fun plant

slow raft
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Very fun plant.
I need a little keychain Rex

steady tangle
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I have all the items @dull ingot

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Idk what the item is from the swamp

chrome hedge
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Oh, funny thing about Frag Grenade... if you have Brilliant Behemoth, each bounce of the grenade also explodes from Behemoth, doing 60% of its full damage. Even though the grenade bounces do no damage normally.

dull ingot
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@steady tangle the red horn thingies at the bottom of the map.

nimble lagoon
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is it possible to just stay at the Sacrifice stage if you're on a normal run and farm items infinitely?

polar anvil
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Yes

nimble lagoon
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it feels like cheating tho

polar anvil
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Interesting thought.

steady tangle
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the red horn things? @dull ingot

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yes i have those

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not this run

keen nymph
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be me
decide to do a lunar only run for shits and giggles
get bazaar stage 1
4 focused convergences and a brittle crown

nimble lagoon
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lmao

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is it possible for a monster to drop two items in specific conditions?

dull ingot
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@steady tangle ye

faint vector
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i simply cannot get past stage 5 on monsoon

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i did once but then i died to phase 4

safe vapor
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Stage 5 is a bear

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How are you doing on time

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Monsoon is really unforgiving on scaling

faint vector
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i try not to spend longer than 5 min per stage

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like

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the sheer amount of brass contraptions, elite wisps and elder lemus in the teleporter event

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simply impossible to keep up

safe vapor
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Yeah it's often better to rush the first few stages and get ahead of the curve so you can milk stage 4/5

faint vector
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hmmmm ill try that

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thanks

safe vapor
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Also I don't know how far into the game you are but having the majority of items or abilities unlocked will make a huge difference

errant yew
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ive been experimenting with the final boss and have 2 questions: 1. would commando's phase rounds be more effective against him since it doesnt have any range falloff and 2. can the last phase energy balls take you out when standing on the ramp?

safe vapor
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Phase round 🤔

faint vector
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@safe vapor took your advice, worked great

safe vapor
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Glad to hear it

faint vector
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i finished stage 3 with around 11 minutes, and it made life much easier actually

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also it helped that i was playing cap and got an afterburner

safe vapor
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I bet

faint vector
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lol

safe vapor
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If you're behind on scaling stage 5 is when you'll know for certain

faint vector
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and yeah the only item i dont have is squid polyp but fuck that shit way too much work for such a meh item

safe vapor
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ive been experimenting with the final boss and have 2 questions: 1. would commando's phase rounds be more effective against him since it doesnt have any range falloff and 2. can the last phase energy balls take you out when standing on the ramp?
@errant yew are you considering phase round for phase 4 mainly?

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Because I found I could hit him reliably with M1 far enough away that he didn't do orbs that much and his needles could be avoided w a slide

snow imp
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@errant yew i'd recommend using the ramps, it blocks the energy balls. you can also trap him under the ramp and gimp him easily

safe vapor
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Gotta up my ramp game I guess

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Hear a lot about these ramps

hoary nacelle
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yeah, gotta get up on those ramps

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RIP melee survivors

prime plank
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wait you can use strategy on the end boss? i just try and get a lot of fuel cells and the lightning thingy and nuke him

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idk how to do his last phase

safe vapor
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@errant yew i haven't tried phase rounds yet but in theory it does have an advantage for this encounter

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Outside of a command run you'd have to be very lucky to end up w enough fuels cells for that

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If you mean nuking him during item steal they are making him invincible during that in the next patch

faint vector
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gdamn

errant yew
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sorry i didnt reply sooner. my friend did the teleporter instead of the portal. my only reason im thinking of taking phase rounds is since i often feel that my shotguns pellets dont hit him even when im trying the fight out the legit way

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the range of phase round might help the fight out a bit

full star
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I feel like the entirety of Commencement could be shrunk by 30-50% and the map would be better

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I get that it's supposed to be atmospheric n stuff

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but it's just sorta boring?

past yarrow
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wasn't focusing when i was taking this picture, ended up with an enormous cactus up my arse

full star
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Mythrix is also... he doesn't really fit, and isn't very fun to fight in my opinion.

neon flume
full star
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doesn't help that some stuff straight up doesn't work in Commencement, like drones.

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for whatever reason they often get stuck in Commencement

neon flume
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these aren't wondering vagrants

safe vapor
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Disagree on mithrix but yeah the map feels a bit like a slog after awhile

full star
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there's also not really a reason to fight anything here

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Mythrix... I don't like Mythrix because they feel like a Furi boss. They don't fit in Risk of Rain

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Mythrix also has exactly one dangerous attack, and is almost completely invalidated by flight

past yarrow
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that's it's only downside imho

full star
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varies greatly in how they perform against various survivors

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If you aren't cheesing, Engineer gets wrecked real bad by Mythrix

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Artificer just sort of annihilates them because Flight

safe vapor
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the range of phase round might help the fight out a bit
@errant yew the further away you can be the better so you might be right

past yarrow
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the boss needs a mechanic added that punishes mistakes in the air too

full star
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Also Mythrix doesn't have proper 'tells' for a lot of their attacks

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even though I only consider the rotating pillars to be dangerous

faint vector
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So is the key to mithrix just like, keeping your distance

full star
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not exactly

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because one attack is not dodgable if you are too far

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the key to Mythrix is hovering over his head indefinitely

past yarrow
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that's boring though

full star
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yes

faint vector
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Also about to say that, his attacks aren’t very telegraphed so I don’t really know when to hop in for damage and when to stay away

past yarrow
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if you're planning on fighting him, avoid flying

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he's a lot of fun that way

full star
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Unlike Providence, Mythrix's attacks aren't really... fair, exactly.

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He's a lot of fun for certain classes maybe

past yarrow
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for all characters

full star
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Engineer feels really bad to play against him

safe vapor
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I've only done it w huntress, merc and commando all of which have a good evasive but don't fly and I haven't done any of this ramp business

past yarrow
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he's an absolute joy to fight

faint vector
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Idk, I’m fighting him and everything’s ok and suddenly oh he zoomed in and slapped me to death

stoic geyser
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^

past yarrow
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yeah, who are you playing?

full star
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Engineer feels really bad because Mythrix smashes turrets really easily

faint vector
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I’m playing cap, but I’ve also tried Mul T

full star
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and Engineer's damage is just kinda mediocre without turrets

past yarrow
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mul-t is one of the strongest against mithrix

faint vector
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Yeah I can’t imagine fighting him with engi.

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Mul T - strong against mithrix, weak against commencement

stoic geyser
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He is either too strong for you or too weak, and that pretty much comes down to whether you can fly or not. Or if you have mobility and damage.

past yarrow
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ehh, never had an issue with either as mul-t

faint vector
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The parkour was tough since the little guy has no innate vertical mobility

past yarrow
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engineer can beat Mithrix fairly well as long as you use those walky turrets and a fair few energy drinks

full star
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It would be cool if Mythrix' had multiple simultaneous attack patterns similar to Providence, and actually telegraphed where they're hitting

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instead of being 'oh you're close get slapped'

faint vector
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Oh and yeah, cap has no mobility skills so I had to keep sprinting facing away from him to use wax quail

past yarrow
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Cap is definitely a challenge

stoic geyser
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His last phase screws engi. Loses out on all his damage and turrets can proc mithrix on hits like atg.

faint vector
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I imagine it’s a bit tougher to do a provi style fight in 3D

past yarrow
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but that's enjoyable, so no issue there

safe vapor
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Yeah cap is so good but in that encounter I can see it really being tough

full star
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yeah, it is certainly a bit tougher

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but I don't think it's exactly not possible

past yarrow
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uhh, it's possible

safe vapor
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Def want some hopoo and quails and hooves

past yarrow
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just have some extra pants on standby

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because you will shit yourself lol

full star
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I think the main issue with Mythrix is not every character has the same type of 'dodge', unlike RoR1

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where everything can be dodged by jumping

faint vector
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I had a hardlight after burner aka 3 chargers of orbital strike, could barely hit him with the things because he’s so so skittish

past yarrow
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I don't think it's an issue honestly, the real issue is how some characters can just cheese it

stoic geyser
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Even then his attacks arent telegraphed, he is a poor mans dark souls boss.

faint vector
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For me, cap is great to get to commencement but not so great once you’re actually there

past yarrow
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except better than any dark souls boss

safe vapor
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So idk if this is good or nessecary but because I have yet to be able to "cheese" mithrix I really think about what I'm bringing and I scrap my atgs, and bleeds, and bombs... And medkits..

full star
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also he has at least one instant kill attack which is 'easily' dodged and feels really lame to die to

past yarrow
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why scrap atgs and such?'

faint vector
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Whats the point of cheesing a game

past yarrow
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there isnt

full star
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But yeah, Mythrix feels like a Furi boss to me, but without a ranged phase

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and in Risk of Rain for some reason

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Mythrix doesn't really... fit.

safe vapor
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Cuz i know I can avoid his phase 4 attacks but add atgs to that

past yarrow
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atgs wont spawn if he doesnt hit you

stoic geyser
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Mithrix is nowhere near beung better than every dark souls boss, maybe certain ones, but he is still very unfair if you do play dark souls like agaisnt him.

full star
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'turrets proc ATG for mythrix' was stated earlier

safe vapor
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But I might eat a needle and I'm scared

faint vector
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I think fighting mithrix can be so stimulating we often can’t really focus on his telegraphs

full star
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which sounds like a massive bug

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what
absolutely not.

slender cipher
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mithrix last phase with engi is kind of boring bc your turrets keep their items

full star
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What about fighting mythrix is so stimulating that you can't pay attention to a telegraph?

faint vector
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ay least for me cause I can’t often get to him

stoic geyser
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If you play ror2 agaisnt him its just based on damage which gets ripped out of you by his bleed cancels and last phase so the best option is cheesing it.

safe vapor
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Get hit with one needle and bleeds or sticky can be doom

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Also

faint vector
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when I’m fighting him I’m quite nervous

past yarrow
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if you need a game to tell you when and where an ability is gonna hit