sage tangle
Huh
#gd2-nullified
red echo
@shadow thistle mostly just experience, i usually shoot for like ~4, 5 minutes max per stage on monsoon
so like stage 1 i'm trying to hit the teleporter by ~3 minutes at the latest regardless of what items i've found
shadow thistle
Huh.. sounds risky not gonna lie
red echo
the game is all about risk vs reward 🤷♂️
shadow thistle
Fair enough
red echo
i think woolie's thing is he tries to leave stage 1 with 3-4 items including the teleporter item
(which also works out to about 4 minutes a stage if you're pacing well)
shadow thistle
It just feels like without those items from first stages I’m going to struggle
red echo
you probably feel that way because you're farming first stage too long and later mobs are stronger than they should be
your first farming stage should be stage 4
humble shard
you will struggle but you'll be ahead and then you can start taking your time
shadow thistle
Though then again, I can go to Void Fields for more items
red echo
for a quick mithrix run or just consistent early game in general your goto strat should usually be rush to stage 4, farm up there and try to do void going into sky meadows imo
shadow thistle
Dio’s on mobs is such a crapshow btw
serene stream
Fair enough
@shadow thistle I usually try and activate the first teleporter once I hit level 2. Basically my goal is to hit stage 3 in 10 minutes to get the Preon, then usually try and get to stage 4 by 14 minutes, and stage 5 by 24 (I will usually farm items on stage 5), and stage 6 I haven’t figured out yet, but I usually farm any chests I see and hit the TP. If I’m looping I want to loop by 30 minutes
red echo
this is good pacing ^
shadow thistle
holy.. this sounds insane
red echo
gotta go fast on monsoon, difficulty scales quick
shadow thistle
I want to beat the game once before going to Monsoon tbh
red echo
lower difficulties give you more time but don't let that build bad habits, get used to pacing yourself fast even on drizzle and it'll benefit you in the long run
good pacing is the key to keeping yourself stronger than the mobs you're fighting
shadow thistle
Huh.. got it, I’ll give it a shot
wispy ravine
Me: Gets fire&ice bands, 2 ukulele's, 4 sticky bombs, and a will o the wisp about to hit stage 5 and am on good pace
Elder Lemurian: That's a nice looking monsoon run you got there. Id be a shame if ended right now before you can even react to me
shadow thistle
Elder Lemurian: haha fireballs go pew pew
dull ingot
woohoo beat my first monsoon with engy
wispy ravine
nice
im still tryna get my first
is there a way to loop without going through the bulwark?
wispy ravine
ah
mild wigeon
On the final teleporter, you can reallign the plates on the teleporter to aim towards the planet, that way you can loop
wispy ravine
how though?
dull ingot
OH really? i didn't know that
mild wigeon
Yeah trust me it got me too, just walk up to the plates of the teleporter and interact with it
wispy ravine
after beating it?
mild wigeon
They should all line up and the chat should say that it "alligns with the planet"
before beating it!
woeful needle
or after
mild wigeon
Can you after?
woeful needle
yeah
dull ingot
You can also just go through the bazaar if you have the lunar coin to donate to the shrine
wispy ravine
.-. where do I need to look at it? the plates around it?
mild wigeon
Yeah
wispy ravine
huh
dull ingot
But if you go through the bazaar you can make use of glitch to get epics lol
mild wigeon
I thought first the teleporter worked like in the first game where you just click E or Q to teleport back or to the final level but nope
dull ingot
One green scrap for 1 epic
if you are going to loop for gear
just go through the bazaar and bring a green scrap with you
you can make use of the bug in the bazaar to get areally cheap epic
IF you have one scrap you can get an epic
smoky idol
that was a dope run to kill mithrix on monsoon for the first time
this update is amazing
woeful needle
I was wrong, wiki says the rings on primordial teleporter can only be rotated prior to the teleporter event
ionic raven
Is going in at a fast time the better Mithrix run, or go for a god run?
mild wigeon
I could do it as acrid on my first run on him with 1 loop on monsoon and if i can do that you can too
woeful needle
ive had more luck with going to mithrix first loop, but i havent beat him yet
mild wigeon
My brother told me huntress works wonders, so if you have trouble give her a go
I can imagine he'd be right with arrow rain and blink
graceful steeple
Any fun builds with mul-t saw blade?
woeful needle
he chillin
wispy ravine
that explains the magma worm like noise
smoky idol
@ionic raven ive done it both ways on monsoon, god run is better. You just 1shot him before he finishes robbing your items
sudden urchin
I just beat the final boss on monsoon with the glowing meteorite, fuel cells, shaped glass, and some friends
wispy ravine
and on this episode of "Where's the teleporter? Im over time alrea-- oh there it is"
past sand
wispy ravine
accidently picked up a shaped glass now knowing what it did, best mistake ever
IT WAS GOING SO WELL WHY DIDN THE FRUIT WORK
IVE BEEN SCAMMED
rare heart
Everyone should pick up every lunar once, just to know what it does... but yea, shaped glass can hurt if you aren't prepared to dance around damage.
past sand
Jokes on you, I play artificer, I'm obliged to do that weather I want to or not, regardless of if I have glass shards
hearty violet
Can bands make your atg hit harder? Like if you shoot a skill and it procs both bands and atg at the same time
past sand
Bands have a proc coeff of 0, so they can't proc ATG
But ATG has a proc coeff of 1, so it could proc bands
hearty violet
hmm can atg crit?
past sand
Yes
hearty violet
i get it
whatever the atg did the band would do 350% of that number
or w.e number the band does
dull ingot
Which Lunar item would help acrid out you think?
it's hard to tell, since every lunar is designed to be used in a specific situation
except gesture (kinda)
I mean Engineer benefits most from a lot of Lunar stuff
Esp the main attack replacement
drifting flicker
visions of heresy
past sand
heresy, so acrid becomes an actual ranged character and not some awkward half melee half ranged that has no reason to be in melee
dull ingot
acrid can benefit from visions of heresy if you're not playing him as melee
Visions of Heresy is soo good, it almos feels like it shouldn't be a lunar item
past sand
Engie w/heresy is hit or miss. It makes your personal attacks better but nerfs the turrets
past sand
It puts a forced delay every X shots, which can really hurt the stationary turrets as they have decent on-hit and attack speed stacking synergy
dull ingot
Yes but they don't have the same cool down as engineer
Meaning they actually put down more damage than standard shot
Phase 1 King was melted in 30 seconds with it on monsoon
Phase 2 mobs destroyed in thirty seconds
The entire fight was less than 3 minutes
past sand
Source on turrets having less cooldown on it? I've not seen that listed anywhere
smoky idol
does artifact of glass boost rex's dot or is that fixed to enemy hp
past sand
wikia is outdated and trash so I don't take anything it says at face value
rare heart
...I think the game is listening in on my discord chats, because it just gave me a second plant.
Also, it might seem like they have less cooldown because they aren't bound by human reflexes and will fire off a new barrage of darts as soon as the cooldown is over.
They also have no concept of fire control and will use their entire barrage on a single wisp.
past sand
I see no evidence that turrets bypass the cooldown
https://youtu.be/eGb2t-4jFPE?t=161
But just to be sure, I'm gonna go and test it myself
dull ingot
@smoky idol you mean acrid's?
dull ingot
then no
smoky idol
i see. is the achievement for 50 enemies at 1hp just total in 1 run, or does it have to be in 1 attack
past sand
In the run
Killing 50 1hp enemies in one attack would be ridiculous
pine iris
"woolie"
radiant ingot
It's a lil more quiet in here
real osprey
Just died on a run because I had literally no on hit items lmao
radiant ingot
I'm new to the game. What's the general objective of the game, getting as far as possible or is there an eventual end boss?
real osprey
The only thing that made it a bad run, and there are both @radiant ingot
You can go endlessly or you can fight the final boss after stage 5
floral violet
or you can obliterate every 3rd stage after the first loop
real osprey
that too
radiant ingot
Meanwhile the difficulty keeps climbing and the items follow suit?
floral violet
the difficulty keeps climbing yes
and you still get items
forever in theory, or until the game crashes atleast
floral violet
keep going, the rabbit hole only gets deeper the more you play
radiant ingot
What's like the general strategy, getting to the teleporter asap and getting as many items as possible while doing so?
floral violet
there are a bunch of strategies
real osprey
be fast is the general strat
floral violet
a common one for monsoon though is to spend less than 5 minutes per stage early on yes
real osprey
but you also want items so you don't die
radiant ingot
I'm gonna hang out on drizzle for now
floral violet
it's a balancing act, do you farm for items or do you fight the stage boss and move on
radiant ingot
I'm glad I unlocked two more characters because I found the starting character incredibly boring ;/
floral violet
that is fine, Drizzle is great for learning the items, enemies and characters
some people love commando some hate him
past sand
@dull ingot as you can see, after 12 shots the turrets stop shooting for 2 seconds
https://youtu.be/c98YNLHMBCs
past sand
Go play Artificer, you'll miss pressing M1 pretty quickly
floral violet
lol you are gonna use a lot of mouse 1 but as difficulty goes up you'll use other stuff to
or love not pressing mouse one as much
real osprey
the most annoying use of m1 is double rebar mul-t lmao
radiant ingot
Yeah I know m1 is kinda imperative in games, but I played for half an hour and all I did was walk and hold m1
floral violet
oh god, why would you do that to yourself?
radiant ingot
Might as well have taped it down
floral violet
yeah that is just commando
real osprey
uhhhh I didn't, I macroed m1 and r to my left click lmao
floral violet
and huntress, and rex
real osprey
I'm not doin all that
real osprey
I love engi
radiant ingot
Just gotta beat a few more stages first
past sand
Engi is so damn boring, you just drop turrets, run around for a couple minutes collecting items, drop turrets again for the boss and move onto the next stage
radiant ingot
Well my version of boring is holding m1 predominantly 
real osprey
Engi's m1 is annoying to use at first because it's slow af, but gets better with syringes or visons (but visions replaces turret fire too 
)
past sand
when you don't even have to be in the same city block as the enemies you're fighting, there's no danger, but there's also no gameplay
real osprey
until you get no healing items and then you have to do more work yourself
unless you use walking turrets, then it might not matter as much
past sand
Merc, Arti, Rex, Loader, Acrid, Captain, they all do more than just "M1 to win" gameplay without being AFK to win gameplay
radiant ingot
I'd have to unlock them first
real osprey
Rex is cool
radiant ingot
Only got huntress, mul-t, Mando and the assassin sword thingy guy
past sand
Little tip, don't spend your first 10 lunar coins, save them for getting arti unlocked
past that, go ham, lunar items are fun
radiant ingot
Do coins carry over?
past sand
yes
real osprey
Lunars do yeah
radiant ingot
Good to know thanks
past sand
you have a 0.5% chance to get a drop from any enemy, and that halves for each drop in that run resetting back to 0.5% on the next run
radiant ingot
I can already imagine the farm aspect there
real osprey
I didn't know that, I got 3 coins in my last run lol
past sand
If you want to farm them, you just obliterate yourself w/the lunar item that gives you the boss fight
spend 3 coins, make 15 back
real osprey
Unlocking the artifact of command makes farming a lot easier
past sand
indeed it does, I've been using it while I unlock each item, character and artifact but I'm looking forward to getting my ass handed to me by RNG when I'm done with the grind
real osprey
Yeah, I usually farm up about 30 then go into monsoons. I don't usually buy any lunars though unless it's Visions on a character with a bad m1 (Acrid, Artificer, Engi sometimes, kinda Mando)
I just take the newt portal for the trades
waxen current
With the archer girl
Her basic attack which one is better
The constant single arrows
Or the charged 3 shot burst
past sand
The default is better earlier on, but doesn't scale as well
The alternate is weaker earlier on, but with ~20% crit it becomes higher DPS and scales much better
waxen current
Hmm i thought so ty ty
small vapor
having some difficulties finding the 2 mountain shrines to unlock the royal capacitor, any tips on how to find an area with 2? or do I have to just get lucky?
dull ingot
just luck
past sand
easiest way is to speed through the first zone on a character that doesn't rely a ton on items in the early game, check for the shrines, if they don't spawn reset it and go again
but the less painful way is to just play the game, go for a silly broken OP deep run where you oneshot entire maps with one button press and you'll eventually find at least one zone
small vapor
ah, I've just been zooming through the first zone on loader and resetting, mainly looking for this so that I can try to get a good run going so I'll keep on trying I guess
woeful needle
got to phase 4 of the final boss for the first time after an hour long run and got one shot
im ready to cry
frosty surge
wanna go another run with me?
past sand
In the wise words of Steam discussion users, "just stack glass 
"
In all seriousness, it's a learning curve, now you know what to expect so you'll be better prepared for it
real osprey
Is the rumbling audio glitch, the magma worm rumbling in particular, known about?
I have to restart my game every time I fight a magma worm because the rumbling audio lingers
smoky idol
how does purity + 57 leaf interact? cancellation?
silver plover
yes
smoky idol
noish
silver plover
an equal number of them cancels out
gentle ivy
glacial steppe
death to the queen's gland
polar anvil
no
vivid crown
Man, Command really does make the game trivial now more than ever doesnt it
before I got to the second floor i was so overpowered I literally went thru stage 2, 3 4, 5 and Mithrix without moving except to the portals
On monsoon .-.
As a meme I got my Mul-t """mastery""" skin by literally not playing mul-t ._.
ocean stratus
how do I unlock the powersaw?
vivid crown
use a preon accumulator on a imp lord to cause lethal damage
you get the preon accumulator by going fast to floor 3 ice biome and opening the timed chest... or just do a prismatic that has it spawned to get there without any challange
granite wedge
so uhhhh are you supposed to get all your tonic afflictions when you swap off it?
cause i now have 151 and i cant move
summer estuary
Drugs have a price
little reef
ooof
midnight kraken
is there a way to get ROR2 to ignore my Xbox controller on PC? I really hate having to unplug it every time but the game picks it up and the mouse goes wonky until it's unplugged
little reef
had a mate get 71 once, he was a snail
granite wedge
i have a perma tonic and i changed to something else but i never was off the tonic
vivid crown
Forgive me please is legitiatly the move overpowered item in the game now
little reef
it was funny
granite wedge
vivid crown
when your under the effects of the tonic, the de-buffs dont work
little reef
i think the game still gives you the affliction stacks as you use tonic but it doesnt show because they never came into effect
vivid crown
if you were to drink it, ya'll get all your HP back
granite wedge
i know but its so close to me but i cant move
vivid crown
haha
little reef
once they come into effect you get all the stacks at once
granite wedge
i legit cannot move with 151 afflictions
but i was never off the tonic so where did they all come from
vivid crown
they still apply
little reef
like i said
the game still gives you them, they just dont show up because theyre never in affect
vivid crown
the debuffs still apply to your cahracter, your just never off the tonic for it to effect you
little reef
once theyre in effect all the stacks youve accumulated arrive in one go
so it seems like they came out of nowhere
vivid crown
Legit tho, Forgive me please is the most broken item in the game, period
its a literal pool of every resource. You can get any mastery skin with it with 0 skill in the game at all x3
granite wedge
well besides that i dont ever remember getting Afflictions when swapping off my tonic
granite wedge
if you have a perma tonic and affliction is a chance thing upon the tonic going down then how
vivid crown
^
little reef
but they only show up once the tonic goes down
granite wedge
thats possible the dumbest thing ive ever seen
ide like to know when i going to end my run or not
just my picking up a single item
little reef
so youve been slowly gathering stacks of affliction as youve been on permatonic but they never showed because tonic was always up. once tonic when down all 151 stacks appeared at once
granite wedge
but thats the thing they never showed till i swapped off tonic
so im kinda upset cause now i cant move 
and ofc the tonic is just out of my reach
little reef
yeah, its a little silly tbf
it suprised my make when he suddently got 75 stacks and became a snail
mate*
im sure youre moving
just incredibly slowly
granite wedge
its taken me about 10 minutes to move 1 step
granite wedge
how long do you think it will take
granite wedge
i did portal already
little reef
im assuming youre sprinting?
granite wedge
yes
vivid crown
I'm more amazed you picked up Forgive me please w/o Soulbound
granite wedge
i have 3 fuel cells and a 21 gestures
vivid crown
then again with 21 drowns your proibably fine
granite wedge
my plan was use forgive me to get my Infusion health procs
granite wedge
i know but i kept going there and wanted more
vivid crown
memes?
little reef
true
vivid crown
and getting 151 afflictions?
vivid crown
can we just have a small discussion about Forgive me please tho. it litterally the most game-breaking item they've releaced so far
wispy shore
Lol jus had the craziest obliteration run. Monsoon, no artifacts, 4 gestures, 2 fuel cells and glowing meteorite. It was a BLAST 😂
vivid crown
it only does minimal damage doesnt it, however I imagine the constant chaos is pretty fun
little reef
ive not really used forgive me please, im more of a passive equipment type guy
wispy shore
Oh yeah, had a few scrapes
granite wedge
i cant tell if ive moved yet
little reef
i want the elite things to be more common
wispy shore
Shopping in the bizarre was basically a death sentence.😂
little reef
/good
wispy shore
True. I got ifrits distinction on stage 1 once
vivid crown
Want me to sell it to you Cease?
little reef
sure
vivid crown
how does a pool of Infinite health regen, damage, money, x2 Hp maximum, Luna coins, and status effects sound to you
oh also you get 3 of them
little reef
how'd you get that, doesnt it only proc on death effects?
vivid crown
yup
wispy shore
@vivid crown meteorite actually can one shot if you took any kind of damage from anything else. VERY likely in monsoon especially
vivid crown
Soulbound - Reduces equipment on kill. This lets you have infinite Forgives
Now we have infinite triggers
Gores Tome - Infinite money!
Cem Dag/Wil-o-wisp/Gaslosine - Infinite damage that procs effects!
wispy shore
I think closest scrape was when I got hit off the map by a rock on sky meadows and spawned with only half health, surrounded by elite parents, and glowing meteorite activated
vivid crown
Mosnter tooth, Fresh meat, Desk plant - Infinite HP!
Infusion, Topaz - x2 Hp!
Luna coins - Spawn from it rarly for some reason
little reef
oh wow
granite wedge
i dont think i have the will power to run this far
little reef
theres a lot more stuff that procs from on death then i tought
granite wedge
vivid crown
you can legitimately beat the game by only walking to the teleporter on floor 2
little reef
big sad
vivid crown
How do I know this? I just did it
I literally AFK'ed the mithrix fight. I just had a chat with some discord friends while ROR2 played on my other screen
little reef
haha
vivid crown
I think i only killed about 100 creatures
becuase I just triggered the portal event immediatly
becuase I dont need to kill enemies I have infinite money
little reef
still
vivid crown
"but smalllsplaaaaat, you need a red item, how do you get it on the first stage"
granite wedge
im just gonna restart lol
little reef
i just want the elite thingies to be more common and good, coz i dont like having equipment i have to manually use
granite wedge
i was just about to go obliterate aswell
little reef
awh, that sucks
vivid crown
If only there was another realm you could go to that has a guaranteed red item, like IDK, the void portal
little reef
haha
youre not wrong about it being completely broken
but hey, isnt that half the fun of roguelites, breaking them from their own mechanics
vivid crown
"but smallsplat, I suck at the game and the void area is difficult"
just take razor wire to kill everything while you suffocate and use your white items on a single Armour plate, some Mosnter tooth and topaz and you'll be fiiine
also say hi to newt on the way becuase hes adorable
little reef
i wonder if theyll ever add something for killing the newt
coz he's real hard to kill
little reef
the closest ive gotten is about 1/3 of his hp gone
wispy shore
I think there should be a challenge reward for it
vivid crown
naw
vivid crown
I'd honestly rather more interesting stuff or skill-based stuff
I'm getting a little fed-up of every challenge being made trivial with command ._.
little reef
i mean, im starting to play less with command
vivid crown
I got Captain Mastery skin vanilla, no artefacts, and it felt good. But then it sucked knowing that I could get the same reward by using command, doing 20 minuites of prep and literally going for a sandwich
I never play with it. its just not fun to me, at all
unless I'm doing all artifacts
little reef
i can find it fun when you go for stupid strats
vivid crown
I dont really enjoy the stupid strats, i've come up with some fun builds like "Loader the fire lord" and "Mul-t the paladin" but past that its just... bleeeh
vivid crown
I also got loader the fire lord in a legit game too without command and it was way more rewarding
little reef
MUL-T lazer beam*
vivid crown
Fire aspect + Gasoline 3d printer + Runals band
I am the embodyment of the fire gods
vivid crown
1% chance from dropping from the elite
little reef
and im sure ive killed well over 5000 elites playing the game
vivid crown
may even be 0.1%
little reef
its a 0.1%
vivid crown
I've got all of them , but i have no way to prove it to you
its weird that it doesnt track them
vivid crown
but it does track the Perfect Pearl
an item i'd argue is rarer and harder to get
the aspects youc an get just, passivly
the amazing pearl you have to damn work for
little reef
well, considering ive never seen either an aspect or either peal in a total vanilla run
little reef
and ive only seen regular pearls in a modded run and an iridecent one from a cheat
theyre all a pain in the ass to get
vivid crown
only spawns in 3 environments, Wetland Aspect, Scorched Acres and Siren's Call.
you need to sacrifice a luna item into it, at random to get 1 pearl
you have a 4% chance to get an Irradiant Pearl
its the only item I dont have
vivid crown
but yet they think the aspect equipments are too rare to put on it?
little reef
i usually run sacrifice, so those dont spawn
vivid crown
I legit have got all of them in the past. the ghost one is fun as fuck, I got it as Enji and could make my turrets invis
little reef
did they fix how invis works?
dull ingot
they spawn with sacrifice tho
little reef
coz previously even though they were invis, enemy AI never took that into account
radiant widget
The pools are like printers, and printers spawn with sacrifice. They're just annoyingly rare.
vivid crown
I've got the lightning one on Multi, which is broken as all fuck
little reef
ive literally never seen a pool with sacrifice on
vivid crown
you dont need artifacts
little reef
but ive seen some without it
radiant widget
I saw my first pool ever since they were added, literally today.
vivid crown
they are just a rare spawn
little reef
but i guess im just unlucky lol
vivid crown
i've seen multipul, I've just never had luna items. or , if I did, they were the only things keeping me alive because I don't cheat my luna coin amount
radiant widget
I am trying to do another pearl farming run but no luck finding a second pool. Ofc.
little reef
i have about 100 coins and ive never cheated them
little reef
yeah, yours are a bit more impressive
vivid crown
1 for the newt alter, and then 10 for the luna items (which can be total garbage and fuck you over) and thats assuming they are ALL passives
little reef
i run command sacrifice with my mate a fair bit
vivid crown
and thats for 5 rolls
Oh, multiplayer command I 100% am on board with
Multiplayer without command isnt that fun
little reef
i think it depends
vivid crown
oh, if you want a challange sure
little reef
without command it can be fun trying to min max items between people and stuff
vivid crown
I mostly play Mp ROR2 for a chill time as a background game to have on while chatting
Single player is my "hey im good at a game" mode
little reef
fair lol
vivid crown
which is again, why command rubs me the wrong way most of the time :(
on the bright side tho, only 4.3% of players have even beaten the game on monsoon difficulty
We can assume that around 59% never played it seriously due to "Defeat an Elite-type monster." is only completed by 31% of people. With 1.0 having 3 million copies, we can assume that 1 million people have played the game somewhat
little reef
ive almost 100% the game
vivid crown
The only one I now dont have is Artificer Mastery
because shes a hard character that dies easily
little reef
im missing commando mastery, huntress mastery, which i just cant be bothered to get, and that stupid merc slicing winds thing
vivid crown
but I could just, turn on command ._.
little reef
or multiplayer with an engi
vivid crown
like I did with mul-t
little reef
i have no clue how im ever gonna unlock alt r for merc considering i dont follow prismatic trials each week
vivid crown
I didnt actually want to do mul-t's with command, hence why i litterally AFKEd the final boss. part of me wanted to lose as an exuse to do it poperly xD
vivid crown
Merc's Ethereal challange is the only one that demands skill
And, as such, is the second rarest achivment in the game
What do you mean, like, individually?
I could make a teir list for you real quick if you want
dull ingot
honestly, most people with ethereal did it when prismatic trials has topaz brooche seeded in. Because barrier damage does not count as health damage
vivid crown
^ thats what I did. Topax was a purple chest next to spawn.
Even still you require some level of skill to not fuck that up
as you only get about 10 HP to work with
shy portal
I think I did that for the Huntress one, but played so scared I never actually got hit anyways
radiant widget
So, this is a weirdly specific question, but I feel like given how the new boss item works I have to ask
Will my own clay dunestrider ghosts damage me...
vivid crown
Yup
polar anvil
Yes.
radiant widget
Hm.
polar anvil
It's the best part of the mask
radiant widget
So that's how that run ended then
polar anvil
hahaha
radiant widget
I jumped on my dunestrider ghost and my bones dissolved and was awful confused for a bit. But I mean I'm more annoyed that after five stages in yet another run, no cleansing pool. 
vivid crown
So I put the items in a teir list for you @little reef but its too long for me to post onto the discoooord :D
oh hey I can upload it as a file instead. I wonder what that'll look like
oh wow a formatted mess :D
thick sage
i've never had a happiest mask kill a run ever
little reef
i think my issue is that some of theyre effects are less impressive then they could be
vivid crown
Its more that, you didnt get a red item
past sand
I had 10 aegis a few runs back, was passively regenning faster than the decay, was mildly entertaining
vivid crown
You got a useless pile of crap
thick sage
a single red might not save anything
past sand
I had a lot of everything, it was absurdly overkill in every fathomable way
vivid crown
I just realised nothing is stopping me putting the message into two smaller messages
past sand
300 shield generators, 300 infusions, ended up with something like 150k hp with 3 shaped glass
(combined HP including barrier)
little reef
i think my problem with many of the red items is that a lot of their effects are extremely passive
vivid crown
S tier. - "I basically win the game"
Ceremonial Dagger - Its cem dag.
Best on: ANYONE
Shattering Justice - Did someone say FREE DEATH MARK!?
Best on: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Soulbound Catalyst - Part of the game-breaking combo that is forgive me please. before that, Disposable rocket launcher. The best item in the game, without question.
Best on: Anyone who can press Q
A tier. - "Wow this is really good!"
57 Leaf Clover - With the changes to items, this is actually a bit less powerful than it used to be. However, MK1 launcher, bandolier and Ukulele benefit hugely with this.
Best on: Loader.
Dio's Best Friend - Free Respawn!
Best on: Your worst player (or engi for turret revives).
Resonance Disc - Changes really quickly. Interacts with Forgive-me for some dumb reason. Can shoot thru walls. Wont save you from anything, but will kill literally anything it wants in a 120 meter radius
Best on: Anyone
Unstable Tesla Coil - On hit effects for cahracters that struggle with on-hit? Sign me the fuck up!
Best on: merc/loader
.
B tier. - "I'm cool with this"
Alien Head - Its just a good item. Not much to say with this, shorter cooldowns with no drawback.
Best on: Artificer
Brainstalks - Fun, memey item that lets you do dumb shit. too unreliable to be an A tier tho
Best on: Merc
Brilliant Behemoth - Fun item that doesn't do much but add a flat 60% damage bonus. AOE needs to be bigger to become A tier
Best on: Anyone
H3AD-5T v2 - Meme item that can 1 shot every boss in the game in exchange for experimenting where the skybox is and putting yourself literally in the middle of the action. OP with crit.
Best on: Loader
Hardlight Afterburner - Highly specific item that everyone will fight over whos its best for.
Best on: Im not starting this fight
N'kuhana's Opinion - Requires abundant healing but is just an OK passive. Lowest on this list, but an B teir due to how overwhelming good it is on some builds.
Best on: Static Engi
Wake of Vultures - Did someone say FREE DEATH MARK!? oh wait my buff ran out nvm :(
Best on: Multi
C tier. - "Ehh, it has its uses"
Aegis - Its very hard to get HP regen high enough for this to out-power the natural over-barrier decay. Useful for when healing is overwhelmingly available.
Best on: Static Engi
Frost Relic - AOE still to small to be useful. Increases melee users damage tho?
Best on: Merc
Interstellar Desk Plant - Meme item that you can throw into Forgive me for AOE heals :D
Best on: Nobody
Rejuvenation Rack - Boooooring
Best on: anybody
Sentient Meat Hook -pulling enemies together is kinda quirky but they should just die.
Best on: Multi probably?
D tier. - "I'm considering restarting my run because this was my floor 4 drop"
Happiest Mask - Meme item. Has no use except to occasionally make stuff shoot at something else. Chance is too low to be useable, and at late game can re-spawn void reavers to double the instant-kill effect!
Best on: Nobody
that's my tier list :D
Subject to change as people explain to me why i'm wrong
past sand
Ah yes, soulbound catalyst, the core of what trivialised monsoon
little reef
justice is an on it, catylst is on death, dios is a respawn, alien head is just cdr, afterburner is more charges, rejuvenation rack is just double healing
and the ones that have cool effects usually arent the best
past sand
Stack wisps and use catalyst + forgive me pleases and you'll oneshot bosses
catalyst isn't needed, just helps to keep the effect up 100% of the time
thick sage
meat hook is really good, making monsters be all close together like the primordial cube is awesome for items like will o wisp, gasoline and bands
and it does damage by itself
vivid crown
I never found it reliable enough to be good
I think it suits the description of C tier i gave it
However its probably best on captain thinking about it
thick sage
nope, because it moving enemies to a point you want gives you a great control of the battle
also again, it's like a passive primordial cube
that does damage too, also it procs things
vivid crown
It doesnt trigger anywhere near reliablly for it do to that
past sand
Oh the hardlight afterburner debate is a simple one; loader.
No other character relies on their shift nearly as much for damage
vivid crown
I didnt want to get into it as theres so many arguments to be made for each character
thick sage
20% not realiable enough
vivid crown
You also need to consider its grab range
thick sage
commando, rex, mul-t, captain, huntress... all can use that item quite effectively
it's not a small range either
vivid crown
The question is "is the stuff in the grab range already dead" or even "is there anythin even in grab range" and then is the creature ungrabbable"
surreal heron
Is it just me or does loaders Thunder gauntlet feel a bit diff after 1.0? She doesnt bounce off of enemies anymore
vivid crown
Yeah i felt that
It kinda sucks but it ruined the enitre rick reward of her alt fist
surreal heron
I kinda miss it
surreal heron
True
Also, stacking speed items with acrid is one of the funniest and fun things i like to do
That way the leap goes like across the map
slate aurora
I'm surprised someone was simping meat hook that hard
vivid crown
Honestly the only one i struggled to place definitively was Opinion
Its so mediocre in 80% of builds but so, overwhelmingly broken in the other 20%
surreal heron
Rex lookin pretty fun right now
vivid crown
Im also amazed im not fighting over shattering justices place
radiant widget
I know it gives damage but I always figured the draw of behemoth was making your on-hits proc in an AOE. The AOE might be smaller than optimal at one stack, but.
surreal heron
Also, Artificers alt skills make her one of the most fun to play for some reason
vivid crown
The list was made when considereding"if only getting 1 red item, what would i want"
radiant widget
Fair
I'm kind of surprised to see someone say good things about resonance disc tbh. I hardly ever see it mentioned outside of one really rancid guy I knew who thought it was trash.
vivid crown
Getting multiple red items doesnt happen often, unless your commandscumming or overconfident about how little you need your green ktems
I didn't get it until I started fucking with forgive me please
At which I actually took a moment to see how much work it actually does
Unlike other equipment, it does its own thing. Most of its attacks will be off screen, or look like they miss or went into a wall
surreal heron
What does forgive me please even do?
vivid crown
But it ignores terrain and looks for the biggest group of enemies that it can hit at once.
surreal heron
I havent had it
surreal heron
So your saying Free daggers
vivid crown
Its like, imagine a ferrari comapired to the red car kids push in preschool
surreal heron
So we are talking about an equipment that can set off Will o wisp, Daggers, Soulbound catalyste, Gasoline and ect?
vivid crown
how does a pool of Infinite health regen, damage, money, x2 Hp maximum, Luna coins, and status effects sound to you
vivid crown
And ghors tomb
radiant widget
Literally any effect that comes from killing something, it triggers it
vivid crown
Not litterally all
surreal heron
THATS SO BROKEN
surreal heron
Happiest mask?
surreal heron
I said Catalyste earlier
vivid crown
You dont understand how op that combo is until you use it
radiant widget
Oh, I see. There are a few it doesn't proc. No mask, no wake of vultures, no frost relic, no brainstalks, no pauldron.
But anything else seems to be free game.
vivid crown
Anything that demands a speific subject
surreal heron
Aww no mask?
vivid crown
Of course not
surreal heron
Sadness
vivid crown
Mask worthless
Dont even give it room in your brain as a memory
8% chance. What a joke
thick sage
i love mask
radiant widget
I feel like it COULD do frost relic conceivably but I imagine it would just be placing the AOE at a location at that point which isn't that interesting.
vivid crown
It could, but it would be dumb
radiant widget
I don't feel like we're missing out on that
vivid crown
Then again, every other effect is dumb
Like topaz
And mosnter tooth
And interstellar desk plant
slate aurora
Just buy 10 clovers bro haha
vivid crown
And cem dag. Gasoline. Wisp
surreal heron
Topaz brooch has saved me on multiple occaisions
slate aurora
Mask gud
smoky idol
is there a point in which enemies sotp spawning still?
I'm in one of the trials and nothings spawning
thick sage
monster tooth is really neat
radiant widget
Can't wait to do a gesture FMP run like a shitheel at some point.
slate aurora
Topaz is god tier white
vivid crown
Topaz is one of the best white items in tbe game
surreal heron
As well as Soldier syringe
surreal heron
Crit glasses?
radiant widget
I've already done gesture space drugs, gesture rockets, and I've attempted gesture elephant.
vivid crown
It is
surreal heron
I mean, crit can trigger other affects
thick sage
more now with shaterspleen
vivid crown
Doouble damage triggering other effects is what we really care about here
smoky idol
i love shaterspleen
vivid crown
Shatter spleen is the best boss item by a landslide
Legit got 1000 bleed procs with it oonce
surreal heron
Does FMP trigger shatterspeen?
surreal heron
Cause when they die to bleeding they explode
smoky idol
shaterspleen brings bleedsplosion love from path of exilew
vivid crown
FmP isnt bleeding tho
radiant widget
I like the new boss items, I just really wish mired urn wasn't actually approaching the level of multiplayer trolling of someone starting a gesture build and then grabbing glowing meteorite.
surreal heron
But its still a death effect from shatterspleen
radiant widget
Shatterspleen though 👌
vivid crown
Applying tar as another debuff is huge as debuffs are hard to come by
surreal heron
MulT with the overloading buff tho 
thick sage
in fact it gets ridiculous with the healing sometimes, even if you're not a melee character
vivid crown
Fire is inconsistant, bleed is alrighht but needs stacks, all praise shattering justice
thick sage
unless you have arti
vivid crown
All praise chronobauble, which has been made an a tier item solely off the fact death mark exists
thick sage
because it works for death mark doesn't make it good, in fact it makes me take more pity as its the only use it has
thick sage
also i never get deathmark
vivid crown
Its also an a tier item
vivid crown
Only thing stopping it being s tier is just, its so hard to get 4 reliably until the late gate
Unless your playing acrid
(Visions of heresy Death mark build, its fucking gooooood, go nuts with it)
thick sage
never use lunars sadly either
vivid crown
Wha
thick sage
yeh
radiant widget
The only time I use lunar items is for gesture builds. But generally I don't run them past that. The current set of lunar items just aren't that enticing for my interests.
vivid crown
But, luna items are unique and aooke characters shine with speific luna items
Visions of Acrid
Grief on Captain
Purity on Merc is apprently good
thick sage
unique yes, but not in my interests
radiant widget
I'll be looking forward to how post-launch content updates affect the item pool though. 👀
I imagine it's only a matter of time before another lunar item comes along that really speaks to me.
vivid crown
Some luna items are just kinda garbage. I dont think any builds uses strides unironically
thick sage
some commandos take it
vivid crown
Transendace is pretty OK if you have stealth kit
thick sage
now that the devs only need the console launch, they'll be able to do more things freely, i think...
i don't know what working with a publisher works out to be
smoky idol
wooo found celestine item
vivid crown
Litterally no one uses corpsebloom
radiant widget
Even if you want to use corpsebloom isn't it just universally horrible to stack literally at all
vivid crown
Yup
vivid crown
Stacking it makes it from bad to horrendus
radiant widget
Corpsebloom and Gesture are just the two extremes of lunar items and their design it feels like... lmao
vivid crown
Brittle crown is... ok?
I dont see many people take it since gohrs entered the field
radiant widget
I've never felt good running brittle crown so I just stopped acknowledging it.
thick sage
not really, a good ammount of people that i played with take brittle crown till this day
you literally become the sugar daddy of the party sometimes
on single player, well it's another story
thick sage
but not extremely rare like corpsebloom tanks
dull ingot
Nah, his shotty is too good to replace
vivid crown
did somone say 12x stack orbital bombardment!?
radiant widget
Space drugs...
dull ingot
Space Drugs Tonic is bad ass
vivid crown
Orbital bombardment memes with visions has to be tried at least once
His shotgun good, yes
But opening the heavens to orbtial rain is also good
radiant widget
I like space drugs a lot, but if I ran it literally all the time I'd just get bored of it. And it's the only lunar build I like to run that doesn't exclusively hinge on gesture.
vivid crown
I dont really touch tonic
I care too much about my OHK protection to consider the downsides a viable option
vivid crown
What does that question even mean
dull ingot
A code for the portal my guy
vivid crown
I am aware, but your question doesnt make any sense
dull ingot
Yes it does
Is this map the only destination for the portal or are there 'runes' scattered on every map?
vivid crown
"Teleporter goes to all map or just this one" while looking at a teleporter code on roost
The relic portal just restarts the loop again
These tablets are on every level
dull ingot
Gotcha
vivid crown
Or you can do what 95% of us did and just use the wiki for the codes
thick sage
it was very fun finding out most of them
vivid crown
Ye
vivid crown
I agree, but also i wanted relics not running around maps
thick sage
it's not that time consuming
vivid crown
I wish relics at least had a score modifier or something tho
My general distaste to command being allowed for mastery skins will never yield x3
vivid crown
I abuse the wiki to discover things as I find it more enjoyable x3
dull ingot
Like figuring out what lunar items do what
Tonic is quite good, and the downside is actually not that bad in my two hours of using it
vivid crown
I like being good at video games, and I like having all the information incased I missed something vital
But i also have prefrences, so the meta isnt the law but a guideline
Tonics potential removal of OHK protection makes it unpickable in my book
dull ingot
Oof, Implying I'm not good. Using a Wikia does not make you 'good' at this game.
vivid crown
When did I ever say that
dull ingot
Some of the people streaming this game use Lunar items all the time
it was implied my guy
thick sage
never implied it
vivid crown
No, it was my excuse to why I wiki everything
I like being good at games now, not after 10 hours of finding out something i could have just googled x3
I'm no where near the best, i'd probably gibe Cabbage that title as hes fucking nuts
But theres some interactions you just dont discover naturally
Like how blast shower resets rune cooldowns
How visions of heresy lets capain use his orbital bombardment 12 times
Or even that you can scrap captains default red item for free red scrap becuase he gets it back at the start of every level
Also why did you talk about people streaming the game with luna items all the time
What does that have to do with me enjoying using the wiki?
pine iris
Tonic's still great
vivid crown
It is
pine iris
even with no fuel cells, an instant 50% heal and a buff to all stats?
vivid crown
Its a good item that combos well with either infinite use or just, luck if you have 57 leaf clover
Its not my preference to be sure, theres tons of fun equipment to use in its place i like more
I actually quite like new grief
vivid crown
Idk, I'd say infinite tonic is one of the more passive equipments
pine iris
I don't run infinite tonic though
vivid crown
The new drum is pretty good, leech is ok? Fmp is broken beyond repair
Disposable rocket launcher is still pretty busted (pun 100% intended) royal capacitor is pretty well off
Jade elephant is a bit of a meme tho :(
versed epoch
Mithrix stole my Dio
And I fucking died
Though this was my captain run after I beat him with loader
Also thanks @floral violet
For the tips
oak crest
anyone knows if happiest mask works on mithrix
wicked fiber
I hate that half of Captains kit just, up and disappears on void fields. Makes him practically useless there and gilded coast as well.
broken ginkgo
Matrix “deaths” are probably most weird ones, he can drop logbook in any his phase, but every time you “kill” him, logbook wouldn’t count that as a kill
Wack
So you will have logbook with 0 kill counts 
jaunty sand
what are best items for merc ;O
wicked fiber
Hopoo feathers lul
🪒wire
uncut hatch
crystals are godly on merc since all your damage is melee anyway
and monster teeth is a pretty reliable heal item for him too
wispy shore
@uncut hatch lol
I stack up 20 crystals and 10 crowbars on loader usually. I AM ONE PUNCH WOMAN
jaunty sand
is crowbar good on merc? :O
uncut hatch
crystals are just a really good item in general that is amplified further by melee classes
jaunty sand
friend also wants me to ask what captain's best items are
we're trying to min/max a bit so we can beat mithrix
uncut hatch
captain needs to stack drones and attack speed
bands are also nice to have for your utility
jaunty sand
stacking drones as in buying a shit ton of drones or using his weird little attack drones?
uncut hatch
buy as many drones as possible
dont be afraid to splurge on a TC-prototype even
turrets are also nice to have but less important
craggy kraken
@wicked fiber so about captain's stuff disappearing on void fields, I'm curious whether that's a thing that's gonna get addressed tbh, because while I understand it from a LORE reason or whatever it just feels REALLY bad
just straight up feels shitty to be the only character who gets half his kit taken away for certain stages, and while they aren't ESSENTIAL or anything
it's just flat out less fun
wicked condor
kinda wish captain had a weaker R he could use if beacons are already called/unavailable
dunno how that would affect balance tho
dull ingot
wait, CPT loses his kit in the void?
craggy kraken
yeah in certain of the hidden realm stages
dull ingot
what is the 'lore' reason for him losing his kit? and where do I read that?
craggy kraken
the idea is that like, they are not like 'accessible to the outside world' and thus his ship cannot call things down in those areas
I don't know that it 'says' that anywhere
but it's obvious that's what they were going for
hushed gate
Can you do mercinary:Ethereal with shaped glass?
craggy kraken
it's not like, INCREDIBLY annoying or anything?
wicked condor
think it's locked in the celestial portals too but unsure
craggy kraken
just kinda disappointing
wicked condor
@hushed gate I want to say yes since you could get it with artifact of glass on, but idk if that changed in 1.0 with the curse stuff
craggy kraken
and any time when you take kit away from one character but not others just feels bad like "oh I picked the character where if we go to these stages I just get to not use any of my cool other abilities I guess"
hushed gate
Hrm. Ok. Well thanks for answering
winged coyote
is there a consensus how everyone is feeling about mul-t's skill build is right now?
wicked condor
haven't tried the new rebar yet but scrap launcher is actually solid now
jaunty sand
am i the only one who thinks merc is a bit underpowered atm
crisp jewel
Can I use Blight for Acrids Pandemic?
wicked condor
no, has to be poison specifically
true edge
just found a cool synergy: Forget-Me-Not, Gesture of the Drowned, Soulbound Catalyst and Will-o-wisp
im just constantly spawning repeating explosions all around me and anything that comes near it dies and spawns another repeater
idle ravine
Anyone in favour of commando needing a buff? 
ruby marsh
dull ingot
Problem with commando is that he is an all rounder
which means he is good at nothing particularly
true edge
you aren't supposed to always win
dull ingot
Yes, rng is a bitch
We all know
You can go faster with Captain Hacking though than you can with commando, and have better damage output to start off with
Commando needs a serious buff
true edge
its like pinball, you have the illusion of control but you will always drain the ball
dull ingot
The only buff hes getting is a 90% to 100% on his main fire, and they'll call it a day
dull ingot
Or just make him a tank to make it easier as a beginner character
Ehh, Captain can't make use of his abilities in the void areas
ashen sapphire
yeah hidden stages
dull ingot
I got to the void every run
garunteed epics
why wouldn't you?
I dont because I value my time
Going to the void for the challenge, is basically meta. Value your time? Time is halted and the void challenge only takes 7 minutes tops
Jk, I dont because its tedious and boring
pale shuttle
Guys of game discussion two if you want to watch rage babies yell at each other about osp look at game discussion one
dull ingot
I actually really enjoy the void for the RNG of the mobs, and the music there is absolutley phenomnal.
Pog
That's part of the Fun Yes
pale shuttle
Rean I agree but I have lot too many runs to them getting tesla
dull ingot
Suit yourself, i really enjoy the void. I have been screwed by it ocassionaly, but most of the time i've gottent exactly the epics I wanted
Music composistion there is phenomnal
You can not deny that
If I'm in a sensory deprivation water tank, yes
Man, these guys be salty about the void today.
I'm always salty, alongside vinegar
dull ingot
I'm my 80 playthroughs of Void I've never seen a Unstable Tesla yet. If you get screwed by the RNG just leave through the portal.
I've def had some nightmares with teddys and Revive Epic
ashen sapphire
teddys and armor
dull ingot
Teddys Armor and Revive is also pretty bad. ESP since the end of the vents the mobs stay there
It's a 100% chance of getting an epic, as opposed to the .002 percent chance in normal chests
the 20% chance in large chests
burnt lynx
I had jellies get goat hooves, focus crystals, and tesla coils by the end once
I don't even remember anything else about that void fields run, I hated every minute of that one.
dull ingot
There's only three instances of to get a confirmed epic, the bird boss fight, lava caves golden chest, and the void as far as I know.
burnt lynx
Well, and dumping your green crap in the Bazaar
dull ingot
Actually You can get an Epic with one green scrap
Currently a bug
But with one green scrap you can get an epic. That's how I beat a playthrough recently, Bazaar had Epic Teddy
burnt lynx
How exactly does one get scrap?
dull ingot
Had five lives on final boss fight in monsoon
ashen sapphire
and soup island 🏝️
dull ingot
@burnt lynx you have to find scrap terminals in the maps
@burnt lynx they look like industrial blenders in the ground
burnt lynx
Ah, okay. I've been running Command since 1.0 because a lot of new friends are getting into the game and want speedy unlocks for stuff
dull ingot
Okay, ik going to the void is almost always beneficial, but I just dont wanna
I'm a lazy person
ashen sapphire
irl time consuming stage
dull ingot
You don't have too, if you want an epic though you need too. Depends on how important the epic is to your build
burnt lynx
You can still
dull ingot
But most of the people who complete monsoon usually get the epic from the Void. BeCUZ the get 8 Items + epic relatively risk free if the rolls are good
Wisps are hitscan I'm pretty sure now
ashen sapphire
get 
severe lodge
mithrix is not ok in monsoon
dull ingot
Go very very very fast
ashen sapphire
just dash right in time
burnt lynx
Isn't there a slight delay between when they stop aiming and when they fire?
ashen sapphire
yeah
dull ingot
Yea if you have 5 stacks of goat and the jump birdie...
Yep
Is there a bug with and ramps?
Everytime I use it on a ramp, I go flying high in the air
People in game discussion 1 going apeshit because opinions exist
Pog
ashen sapphire
quail is my one of favorite item for me
nyoom
is anyone thought about RoR2 but there's only RoR 1 stuffs?
thorny anvil
ashen sapphire
yeah my English skill isn't good
not my first language sorry
i mean RoR 1's stages/monsters/characters/items on 3D
dull ingot
can you purchase beads of fealty or are they only drops?
burnt lynx
Is it possible for a normal teleporter to spawn on Sky Meadow, even as a bug?
ember dragon
Don't think so
But you can interact with the stone panels on it to make it send you to Stage 6 instead of the moon if you want to keep the run going
burnt lynx
I've got a guy who SWEARS that he had a reg teleporter spawn on stage 5 so he couldn't loop
And I'm like... No. You goofed, own your mistake.
pastel coral
burnt lynx
Has anyone else gotten a bug where they can't move anymore at the beginning of a new stage?
Or use items or attack at all
dull ingot
no I've not had that
burnt lynx
I've seen it happen twice, in multiplayer only
dull ingot
might be internet problem? Maybe??
steady maple
What are the options when selecting artifacts? There is an unselected, a diamond, and an X. What's the difference in unselected and X? and Why is there a "1" next to the artifact when it is selected or has the X?
burnt lynx
When in multiplayer, players can vote on rules (difficulty and artifacts)
So a 1 is a "yes" and an X is a "no"
steady maple
thank you
lyric surge
grim rock
someone name a character, first answer ill play as and try to beat mithrix on monsoon with no arti's
pliant lotus
merc
grim rock
5 seconds in
pliant lotus
Nice
floral violet
too bad you won't have the items to spend on it probably
grim rock
welp, run ended to a mistimed dash into an elite elder lemurian
pliant lotus
oof
delicate moat
elder lemurians > brass contraptions
errant yew
love it when i clip out of bounds for no reason
frozen stratus
I may of developed carpal tunnel due to playing this too much what do I do?
cobalt aspen
time to pass away
shut jungle
Hand exercises
frozen stratus
I need something wholesome that's risk of rain 2 so I can go to sleep
grim rock
my enemy disintegrating robot of wrath and fury stopped to nothing but the fearsome beetle
silver plover
Beetle: Destroyer of Worlds
pliant lotus
damn
grand zephyr
hey can anyone send me a save file with captain on it or a 100 percent save file
pliant hazel
if anyone wants to join Among Us QYJN
jaunty sand
i usually am not a big fan of double character runs but my mind is changed
if you can properly allocate loot it's kinda crazy
hearty violet
getting carried by this guy in quickplay
hot root
whats an overloading worm
quartz saffron
opal plaza
That just reminded me, even if you're being carried, do your best to make sure if he dies, you can still live
You never know when like 3 imps decide they had enough and just instant kill him
weary geyser
whats an overloading worm
@hot root like a magma worm, but lightning instead of fire
hot root
@hot root like a magma worm, but lightning instead of fire
@weary geyser like the blue one?
is it rare?
opal plaza
I still dont fully understand what their hit boxes are, sometimes I never get hit, others I get melted, I think it's their impact alone?
Not counting overloads Lightning strikes
jaunty sand
what's the generally accepted best items for huntress? i'm a huntress main and i usually go for wax quail + backup mag most importantly, energy drink, hopoo feather, ukulele, crowbar
opal plaza
If I'm correct glasses are a good item if you're using the second primary fire
dull ingot
i hate huntress without glasses and harvester
jaunty sand
yeah glasses, predatory instincts, and harvester are also really good but i'll usually skip out on them if i don't already have glasses
opal plaza
Maybe some AtG's for more single damage since Huntress already has good aoe damage
jaunty sand
is crit build the best way to max her damage? cause that's the only thing i've seen fall off for her lategame (compared to other characters)
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opal plaza
I got no clue, I'm extremely casual when it comes to item choice
Just keep grabbing items and figure out what works for me is what I usually do
jaunty sand
gotcha
opal plaza
What do you struggle most with?
jaunty sand
just damage really, but stuff like stickies and crowbar helps with that a lot
i'll give AtG a try more often, usually don't pick it much if given a choice
opal plaza
So single damage, got it
If you kill small enemies fast enough then I'd suggest some on kill items
Like the green items that makes you go berserk, cant remember its name through
shut jungle
Bands seem good now after the change if you can proc them
jaunty sand
proc?
opal plaza
Activate them
shut jungle
Bands have a min damage threshold rather than chance to make them happen
jaunty sand
ahh
OHH yeah alright
yeah i usually pick up bands cause by the time a band comes around stickies and on-hit stuff (ballista as well) do enough damage to activate them i spose
opal plaza
I swear it's hard trying to find the ror2 songs I'm looking for
The names are so weird
shut jungle
You can use the deathmark if you can get 4 statuses
jaunty sand
what's best for huntress defense/healing? i usually just run as many topaz brooches as i can find, is shit like personal shield good?
opal plaza
Maybe life leeching beans
jaunty sand
ooo this is true
opal plaza
Also I got no clue about the personal shield
Most people say it's bad becuase it messes up one shot protection but I dislike abusing it so I got no clue normally
jaunty sand
not entirely sure what one shot production entails but if it gives more health i will yoink
opal plaza
Effectively you cant be one shot is what it does
If you're above 90% health and a single hit would kill you then you dont die
weary geyser
Basically, no single attack (or burst of attacks if they all happen within 0.1 seconds) can do more damage than 90% of your maximum health plus your maximum shields (plus your current barrier, so barrier is basically ignored for OSP).
So if you have enough shields that they're at least 10% of your total HP, and they're down, you can be one-shot despite being at full health.
robust condor
tfw an overloading worm spawns right on top of you 😔
jaunty sand
ah.
opal plaza
Rip
jaunty sand
unfortunate
opal plaza
Similar thing happened to be but with a elder lizard
robust condor
i died twice to fall damage with dios tho
opal plaza
Just scary when stuff spawns ontop of you
robust condor
when you have 1 hp anything can do whatever they want
opal plaza
Wait, you can die to fall damage?
robust condor
apparently with 1 hp including topaz barrier
opal plaza
I know on eclipse it fan but nothing else
robust condor
28 shaped glass got a bit wacky
robust condor
well look at my highest damage dealt in one hit in my post-game stats
125 quadrillion
wasnt my longest run by 200 minutes but it was my strongest
opal plaza
How much of a times even is that??
robust condor
2800%, idk
opal plaza
You either hacked a ton of lunar coins, spawned them in or just are the richest person in the world