didn't know clover affected logs
#gd2-nullified
frosty terrace
fluid river
it is indeed
apparently they do yea
frosty terrace
I got mithrix log and had no clovers, I wonder what the drop chance is
rare heart
Clovers and purity is fun! Easiest way to crash the game.
fluid river
ig i could just rush mithrix a bunch of times but i'm a coward
and also i could get like, alloy worship unit and chimera logs while i'm at it
rare heart
I got those logs without trying...
frosty terrace
yeah I got lucky with alloy too
also have overloading magmaworm
speaking of logs, just got solus probe log from void fields 😄
the little thing alloy spawns
random laurel
playing this game on switch handheld might be one of the most terrifying experiences ive ever had with ror2
jovial dragon
I know I started playing ror2 on switch then I got it on pc
rare heart
PC master race!
fluid river
Engineer's circle of death
rare heart
"Go on, touch it!"
copper slate
when you're trying to get captain's mastery skin and die on 99% teleporter on the 8th stage cause two magma worms wouldnt FUCKING LEAVE YOU ALONE
fluid river
ooph..
copper slate
i cannot describe my fucking blood pressure rn
safe vapor
That cat is pissed. It's 15 minutes past meal time.
copper slate
yeah and the meal is my MASTERY SKIN ; _ ;
fluid river
i activated 2 shrines of the mountain and 0 boss enemies spawned
austere knoll
some of the mods for this game are brain-breakingly good
like the aatrox league port is so complex and interesting for literally no reason
junior ether
so wait did they fix comedy island yet
didn't get stuck but didn't see any obvious way to get out of there without mobility either
quartz saffron
does jumping down put you back to the middle?
junior ether
I guess if you can jump far enough closer to the main road
but I read the developer thoughts thing on steam and they said they are going to hotfix it so I assumed they already did that
frosty terrace
yeah I haven't tested but they say it's fixed
I assume falling off the island puts you back on the main path
junior ether
oh
I thought they would add debris you can jump on or one of those launcher pads or something
fluid river
local madman finds one 57 leaf clover for each leaf
frosty terrace
yeah launch pad would have been nice
sonic mist
can you unlock artifacts on eclipse?
dreamy ocean
errant mural
can you leave commencement?
molten chasm
After beating the boss yes :p
plain viper
25 crit glasses 👀
fluid river
i nuked Mithrix so hard out of phase 4 i knocked him forwards off the octagon
got all the logs here too
idk if i have a pic of the knocked-forwards mithrixes
i do not
the only monster log i need now
is crabs
copper slate
fluid river
🤔
copper slate
ivory depot
its a cloaked chest... i wonder if they buffed the spawn rate? ive been seeing them more
dull ingot
Is running more than 1 strides of heresy bad? Or should I just pick up some more.
ivory depot
1-2 is generally fine, more than that is just kind of asking for death
dull ingot
But cooldown is the same, so i can basically be perma invisible I guess
ivory depot
ah heres the image i was looking for
dull ingot
Thanks
fluid river
cooldown doesn't go down while you're heretically striding
past yarrow
what's a cloaked chest give?
ivory depot
its just a chest with about the same rarity for drops as a normal chest, but its free
and nearly invisible
solid sapphire
I just tried out this Mod that adds in a Sniper Character similar to the one from the first Risk of Rain.
It's pretty good IMO.
past yarrow
do clovers affect logbook drops?
ivory depot
no
eager badger
Rip
ivory depot
uh
thats not how death mark works
well, itd help with slow down but thats really it
well at least i can do this
supple sierra
and fire
ivory depot
yeah fair enough cause i dont have gasoline
past yarrow
so I'm not sure if this is already known but Happiest Mask mobs can pick up logbooks for you
eager badger
That is how deathmark works lmao
past yarrow
whether it actually counts is something i've yet to see though
eager badger
You have 4 different debuffs from elite affixes
ivory depot
ive seen beetle guard pick em up and i think it counts
random laurel
whether it actually counts is something i've yet to see though
@past yarrow it counts
ivory depot
see but the thing is;
i would just prefer to get a better red becuase i could just get... gasoline, chronobauble, and than two other debuff items
tritip would work
eager badger
Indeed
But at least it's not a waste as before
It could be worse, it could have given you a frost relic
past yarrow
sweet, cheers
ivory depot
yeah fair enough but still wov is a terrible red
eager badger
@past yarrow I've also seen both beetle guards and drones pick them up, pretty sure it gives it to all players if anything picks it up
drifting holly
i think i fucked up by getting 17 goat hooves and 20 red whips as engineer
eager badger
Yes
eager badger
Just don't trigger the red whips if you want to actually walk anywhere
ivory depot
ok so
i have no osp
this is gonna be.. not fun.
drifting holly
@ivory depot at least you aint moving at speed of mark 5 on slight press of W
drifting holly
lets play a game called spot the problem
i call dibs on 17 goat hooves
i also might or might not have been trying to cover whole map in fungus buff
ivory depot
uh oh i just got a second affliction
drifting holly
shrine of order?
ivory depot
yeah
drifting holly
imagine playing multiplayer and getting that many fungi as commando
my mateys would be like pls afk ly
frosty terrace
alright, time to do a drizzle run for a change, been doing nothing but the same monsoon attempts with loader for several days now
drifting holly
why drizzle when you can monsoon with swarm , sacrifice and command? @frosty terrace
frosty terrace
nah I have no artifacts unlocked
drifting holly
then why not do dat
frosty terrace
that's the whole point, I want to beat him on monsoon as loader because it's hard
having an easy goal would be even less fun
serene stream
Loader can one or two shot mithrix with his punch though...
drifting holly
try beating mithrix as rex solo
frosty terrace
yeah you are not oneshotting him normally lmao
on monsoon, without looping, without artifacts
serene stream
3D printer with armor piercing rounds (and given the over abundance of 3D printers now that’s not impossible) + shaved glass
ivory depot
frick shaped glass
shut jackal
Eh, throwing it in here because of the context, 2 hour run, yes it's command/swarm/sacrifice, but it's the best damn fun I've had yet.
pearl hedge
yes it's command/swarm/sacrifice
bruh you don't have to justify anything
shut lion
Imagine playing games to have fun
clear flicker
why do u have 19 lens it caps at 10
gritty bluff
whats the best loadout for arti?
gritty bluff
i mean abilities
clear flicker
what ever ur playstyle on her is the best one
play with what u think is fun/good
me i use the jump fire and lighting ones
chilly nest
Does Mitrix have some kind of damage cap where you can't kill him too fast by dealing large damage?
misty granite
edgy oriole
is the last boss phase the one were he takes all your stuff and you need to shoot it back?
odd widget
yes
peak vortex
Does using the obelisk count for the captain achievement?
next crane
nope
clear plover
elder cloud
yes
next crane
yea, no idea what it is
elder cloud
that's quite the buttload of items tho
frosty terrace
so my drizzle run is a breeze like one would expect, but the good thing is I get to experience some new item combos
soulbound catalyst, drowned, and blast shower with bands does some serious work
loving it
I'm pretty sure blast shower also clears frozen and malachite debuff
so really amazing for both defence and offense
like this plays itself, I don't have to press anything
frosty terrace
I was also using the recycler before blast shower, proved to be an amazing equipment
turning knurls into perforators etc
frosty terrace
I tested the comedy island and it does put you on main path if you fall
so no more comedy
boss fight was a lot more fun on drizzle compared to monsoon
left maple
moss
left maple
moss fight
tranquil siren
do I need to kill last boss in eclipse or is obliterating better?
ivory depot
i think you have to actually beat mithrix for it to count
tranquil siren
oof
dry cargo
To do what? Get a mastery skin?
ivory depot
to unlock the next level of eclipse
analog lintel
frosty terrace
this is the formula for swarms, right? It doesn't open a portal for some reason.
oh I see, the middle is a diamond
sudden vector
mmyes
prime rivet
The regen on Acrid’s ravenous bite and melee third hits are welcome seriously melts things with brainstalks
But honestly, I’d rather not get in the face of a malachite even with stacked tougher times.
Maybe I just need moar Guillotine + movement speed
errant yew
i only use ravenous bite when im doing a meme run
visions acrid does the job way better than melee
empty oxide
I'm having a hard time on normal. Thinking of going to easy, but I don't want to. D:
simple cape
yo i just thought, why do we need sniper when we have mul t rebar launcher
silent kiln
i just did normal mithrix and i really want to know...how many time do you need to kill him?
frosty terrace
4 phases, if you mean that. For unlocks? You just need to kill him once for captain.
you can just obliterate on monsoon for those skin unlocks, doesn't need mithrix kill
pale roost
@empty oxide Don't feel bad for playing on easy, you get better at this game by playing it
And ignore anyone who judge you by the difficulty you play at
empty oxide
@pale roost Thanks for the encouragement!
jolly meadow
I think it's unfair that a boss becomes immortal and I don't have a chance to win anymore after half an hour of clicking the mouse, I just let myself be killed GG
languid yarrow
uhhhh you're at stage 101 lmao
jolly meadow
that was my goal
languid yarrow
it's not 'unfair' at that point lol
jolly meadow
I think it's okay for a boss to get 1 shot protection, but becoming immortal is ridiculous
I mean he has - life doesn't look like it was made for that
languid yarrow
yeah, you took the game way past its limits lol. the game can't expected to be balanced or fair when you've taken it to that point
broken ginkgo
It's just game difficuly scalling, the same incounter with negative HP boss can be with AWU, 
, 
gritty bluff
can you re do the void if you leave
frosty terrace
no you only get one void portal per run
jolly meadow
all other bosses died before they even spawned properly
broken ginkgo
But matrix and twisted scav scale the most of all
frosty terrace
but yeah, looks like boss hp is unsigned 32bit int number
so it goes from -2.1 billion to 2.1 billion
it will loop back to positives if you keep going further
jolly meadow
after this disappointment i won't play the game anymore xwx There was no such thing at RoR1 qwq
languid yarrow
lmfao
frosty terrace
and the boss shouldn't be unkillable
his hp is still a number, and you're dealing damage
it will get back to positives at some point and then die
jolly meadow
should I now left-click for 2 hours to get to this point? no, that just sucks
if he can kill me with one blow then I have the right to do that too
frosty terrace
Noita had the same overflow issue. I went in with a wand that dealt 1 billion dps, still took 8h to kill a boss with hp that messed up
but yeah, I wish all these overflow issues would be fixed, in any game
jolly meadow
I agree with you
frosty terrace
I would assume it's easy to just check if hp would scale pass 2 billion and add extra lives or something
jolly meadow
I think I'll just bypass the boss fight and prefer to sacrifice myself at the obelisk
frosty terrace
if you do a run that long and with command, I'm sure you can scale your dps to like a billion too
jolly meadow
I also have to say that from stage 60/70 on it started to get boring, enemies no longer spawn, only scavengers appear and they weren't a big challenge either
frosty terrace
oh, that isn't fixed yet either? someone here said enemies not spawning was fixed
neon belfry
wtf. xD
empty oxide
made it to normal mithrix a second time and got promptly destroyed xD
tired juniper
imagine if equipment drones also got all your items
then stuff like forgive me please would be useful on them POG
also drones are actually so useful for mithrix
quartz adder
Any tips on getting artifact of glass?
tired juniper
have a lot of teddy bears and stuff like ukeleles before you go in
bright palm
you can oneshot mithrix but its not really a realistic thing to do in a normal run
tired juniper
me and a few friends were trying to beat the game yesterday. one went commando, was the only one to survive void fields, and got 3 headstompers. he picked up a shaped glass and became our way of dealing with bosses. too bad he died to flying chimera thingies though. he picked up a second shaped glass before we went to the moon and we wanted him to headstomp mithrix, but he didn't print teddy bears earlier
also there were some random cauldrons with ??? items that don't give you anything, they just take your items
more cauldrons than there should have been
mild brook
You mean scrappers?
tired juniper
no
cauldrons that don't show an item, say they give ??? iitem when pinged, but take your items and don't give anything in return
there were more cauldrons than there should have been at the area before mithrix, and a lot of them were the ??? cauldrons
also i kinda wish headstompers damage also scaled with stacks
gritty bluff
best way to unlock ballista with huntress?
visual swift
gotta love lagging on stage 7 as boss spawns and dying instantly
bright palm
multiplayer
visual swift
@gritty bluff drizzle with artifact of command
gritty bluff
what items
tired juniper
barrier damage doesn't disqualify you does it? i can't remember
visual swift
build a good amount of damage with lens, tri-tip, and crowbars, then get like 12 topaz brooches
and if you're still nto confident with that, person shield gens
Ukelele and meat hook as well
get the royal capacitor as equipment, and war horn
melt boss, and adds will give you lots of shields
do you have flurry auto attack?
silent kiln
does the aurolinite boss ally thing spawn on mitrhix fight?
random kernel
okay, i have an idea for a build. you get forgive me please, 8 gestures, or the equivalent amount of fuel cells, then just stack gasoline
visual swift
with what equipment?
polar anvil
@silent kiln no
random kernel
@visual swift "forgive me please" the small voodoo doll
visual swift
ah right
random kernel
which procs on death effects
visual swift
I personally have a lot of fun with 60+ stacks of wisps
frosty terrace
yeah stack will o wisps if you go that route
tight creek
cermonial daggers
random kernel
gas or wisps are pretty much interchangeable at high stack
tight creek
topaz brooch, monster tooth, very good synergy for Forgive me please
random kernel
monster tooth seems a bit meh, that's only 8 blobs, no?
polar anvil
@dull ingot someone spamming emotes on messages here
random kernel
i don't understand, why am i the only one getting emotes
quasi plank
Daggers are only good if your pc has decent specs, woo boy the lag
tight creek
well its like a stream of blobs for max health healing
random kernel
what's happening
dense pulsar
Get barbed wire 20+ lol it gets big range
dull ingot
@polar anvil man its 4 messages 😄 thats fine ping me when its over 8 times 😄
random kernel
@tight creek isn't it only every second though?
dull ingot
that was just 1 % from my screen
winged whale
didnt know it was agaisnt the rules sorry just reacting to what i saw
random kernel
lol
random kernel
i have no idea how to interpret any of your emotes, @winged whale
random kernel
gas or wisps are pretty much interchangeable at high stack
@random kernel
oh wait, with command, you can stack both, since they're on different rarities
visual swift
how many stacks do you think youd reach?
i have a screenshot somewhere of reaching 700 bleed stacks on a scavenger
dull ingot
look at this rng
random kernel
the new changes to bleed is crazy good
polar anvil
1300+ i have seen myself
4700+ is what i saw from someone else
dull ingot
to lazy to crop
polar anvil
@dull ingot why are you still in void
visual swift
is it worth stacking ukelele? last time i played, it did nothing
polar anvil
it increases range and bounces
dull ingot
oh i dont know much about stacking
polar anvil
oh but i do
dull ingot
i forgot why i was in the void
random kernel
can it bounce to the same target?
polar anvil
no
visual swift
does meathook stack the same as Uke?
random kernel
like, between 2 people, not constantly one a single target
polar anvil
meathook gets more damage(i think) and more hooks
random kernel
@visual swift nah, meat hook increases pull targets and chance
tight creek
@random kernel i mean once you spawn like two dolls that overlap its ok
polar anvil
chance doesn't increase
random kernel
@polar anvil might have changed, but that's what it says on the wiki for now
polar anvil
oh
undone crest
does anyone know the director points scale over time?
random kernel
20% per stack, but multiplicative, so it can never reach 100%
frosty terrace
polar anvil
ok then
random kernel
@undone crest no idea, but the wiki has quite a big page on it, so best to check there for answers, i guess
random kernel
@frosty terrace you might be looking at the old one, they moved to a new one, with everything being pretty up to date
frosty terrace
link it
tight creek
there are 2 wikis, fandom and gamepedia. idk which one is the new one but both mention logarithmic curves for meat hook
random kernel
@frosty terracehttps://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Risk_of_Rain_2_Wiki
random kernel
they moved from fandom to gamepedia, with the fandom one is hella old
tight creek
prob bc fandom wiki loves to gobble up other wikis and try to have a monopoly
arctic terrace
is it me or mithrix slam hits lighter then his dash attack
visual swift
imagine getting hit by mithrix
arctic terrace
or is it based on radius with center doing the most damage
visual swift
jk jk
random kernel
just don't get hit, 4head
visual swift
^
arctic terrace
i mean yeah but the dash attack is pretty much very hard to dodge if you're someone like merc or loader
random kernel
honestly, no idea, @arctic terrace only way i beat him was with 5 stacks of glass on engineer
before my computer died
visual swift
how is it hard to dodge as merc
arctic terrace
i beat him with command on commando and acrid
visual swift
i just kited him as commando
undone crest
yea i cant wait until i have to grind for mithril log
visual swift
no artifacts
frosty terrace
that new wiki has some nice info on proc coef. Razorwire has 0.5, I knew it
razorwire is so amazing combined with on hit effects, hits a ton of people, procs a lot
ceremonial dagger has 1.0 proc rate so it's obviously better...but hard to find
undone crest
uh i may have encountered a bug
random kernel
get command, lol
polar anvil
not everyone wants to be op in 5 items
random kernel
i was joking, but i see how it could be seen as otherwise
undone crest
nevermind. i had my spooky ghost spawn(the artifact ghost) after i had hit the teleporter to finish the level and i sat at a black screen for like 30 seconds
frosty terrace
yeah, I just unlocked command few hours ago and tried it on monsoon. Steam rolled everything
command certainly makes the game way too easy
dull ingot
Does anyone here know where the environment log for the Sky Meadow is?
you get it by buying a radio scanner drone @dull ingot
polar anvil
@dull ingot radar spawn
dull ingot
I can't believe the game has released and Mercenary: Ethereal is still in
they better give some easy ass prismatic trials
haughty sparrow
does strides of heresy work with soldier syringes ?
dull ingot
👍
polar anvil
@haughty sparrow wdym work
bronze mural
is the 16 player lobbies only a mod?
thick sage
@haughty sparrow do you mean visions of heresy? because yes, those work and it makes you shoot faster but not reducing the cooldown
frosty terrace
need some alien heads or purities for that
random kernel
but stacking purities sounds like a recipe for hot trash
frosty terrace
just need more clovers to balance it out
but in a non-artifact run, gl getting that
thick sage
i love purity, it's one of my favorite lunars
random kernel
lol, pretty hard to bet on getting one specific legendary
frosty terrace
yeah
random kernel
purity is okay, but it's effects are quite severe
thick sage
not really
frosty terrace
need command to get the clovers
hearty violet
what if you have a clover?
random kernel
it reduces the bad luck
hearty violet
doesnt balance?
frosty terrace
clover counters one purity, yes
thick sage
it does balance
random kernel
it balances it out
thick sage
purity is -1, clover is +1
hearty violet
so whats better a clover or 3 sec lower cd lol
thick sage
2 seconds
main cobalt
Depends on your character
thick sage
if you get a clover early and have nothing to proc is kind of useless
random kernel
but with proc items, it's mad good
thick sage
but if you get a purity early is quite nice
not that good
unless you depend on your procs for damage, well yes it's good
and that's kind of it
random kernel
i mean, a lot of damage from this game tend to come from procs though
main cobalt
Clover is pretty good my dude. all characters depend on Proc chains to scale well
random kernel
the band changes does make purity pretty good
a purity makes meathook pretty much useless
from 20% to 4%
and that's a single purity
thick sage
wait, how does negative luck work?
main cobalt
It rolls twice and takes the worse result
random kernel
yeah
thick sage
oh, how do you come to the conclussion of 4% then?
random kernel
you roll 20%, then it rerolls again, so 20% of 20% is 4%
main cobalt
1/5 * 1/5 = 1/25
thick sage
oh wait, i just read that it rolls twice, not once
random kernel
lol
thick sage
damn
random kernel
it rolls first, the normal roll
so 20%
then the purity causes the second roll
and any other purity makes it roll again
it's not a bad item, it's just very specific, but that's what lunar items do
definitely can do some mad shit with it though
dry cargo
Also means atg is 1%
main cobalt
Yup
thick sage
welp i never depend on my procs, because long runs just make my processor die
polar anvil
my game lags in main menu
random kernel
can't play anything till i get a new computer
dry cargo
6.25% uke
random kernel
good thing about purity is that you can make it work with crit and bleed builds
thick sage
at stage 10 it starts to lag, and it kind of defeats the fun, like when i had my old computer some months ago and at stage 4 it laged to 1fps
random kernel
since they both can get to 100% quite easily
@thick sage better lag than dead though D:
thick sage
depends on what pc you got
i could get to stage 29 untill it crashed before this update
random kernel
I got a new pc a few months ago, no issues here 👍
@frosty terrace
Showoff D:
steady arch
idk if i can kill mithrix with this
random kernel
gotta get a new computer, but with the quarantine shit, am poor as hell
@steady arch i believe in you
frosty terrace
I went to stage 30 and above today, can't recall. But I was fine
steady arch
Its either loop or zoom to him
frosty terrace
I had an 8h long run with my old pc too long ago, didn't crash
my old pc was from 2015
thick sage
stuff here in argentina is hella expensive, so no way i'm buying anything in 10 years
frosty terrace
or 14, not sure
thick sage
@steady arch i killed mythrix with kind of a simmilar ammount of items, i thing you're fine
steady arch
bet
random kernel
mine is from 2015, the GPU died last week
gotta go rob a bank or something to replace it
frosty terrace
ror2 just made my old pc heat up a lot, don't recall ever crashing
random kernel
yeah, @frosty terrace mine literally heated up to death. Pretty sure it overheated
frosty terrace
usually your pc should notice dangerous temp and shutdown the pc if it gets too much
but I have melted one of my gpus that was two pcs ago
the gpu fan had stopped working and I kept getting bluescreens without realizing why, eventually gpu melted
ionic raven
So have we all decided Con Lenitud Pederosa is the best song in the game yet.
red echo
nah the best song is You're Gonna Need a Bigger Ukulele
ionic raven
frosty terrace
rain previously known as purple and con lentitud poderosa are the best
thick sage
lentitud poderosa it's pretty good, it has good vibes
ionic raven
My personal top 5.
- Con Lentitud Pederosa
- Risk of Rain 2
- The Teardrop That Fell to the Sky
- Rain Previously Known as Purple
- You're Gonna Need a Bigger Ukulele. :v
thick sage
also i kinda love that it has a spanish name
talking of spanish, should play blasphemous again
ionic raven
That's the list. I will forever stan Risk of Rain 2, but CLP just hits hard
frosty terrace
thought it was latin
thick sage
no atg for you
dull ingot
i had nothing to proc bands
thick sage
you haven't pleased the missile gods
dull ingot
7 syringes
ionic raven
Playing Commando instead of Huntress 
dull ingot
huntress players smh
thick sage
should have brought granade, that's the only way with commando to proc bands normally
dull ingot
weebs
thick sage
wat
frosty terrace
does crowbar help to trigger bands?
dull ingot
grenades suck
ionic raven
You're just jealous our R actually does something
thick sage
granades don't suck
safe vapor
+1 for nades
dull ingot
do nades stun
random kernel
@dull ingot have you seen that ass though
frosty terrace
I've never won with huntress lol
safe vapor
Cheated nades are cursed nades
thick sage
that's not a problem, just positioning is what granades need and thats all
dull ingot
i cheat everything
random kernel
wait, how do you unlock nades again?
dull ingot
20 stages no lunar
safe vapor
Earn your nades and you will respect them more
dull ingot
i dont like doing drizzle runs
thick sage
don't need to do it on drizzle lol
random kernel
gotta suffer a little for success
dull ingot
cheat
thick sage
did it in monsoon for the extra challenge
dull ingot
i had an insane commando run yesterday but scav with backup aimbotted me
pine iris
REX but you can only stack healing items:
rare heart
Dew it
dull ingot
slug WeirdChamp
thick sage
also backup it's not bad if you get some distance @dull ingot, and they never removed dagger, ever
rare heart
Wait, does repulsor plate count? That reduces the self-damage from his skills.
random kernel
huh, i thought they removed dagger, but apparently they still can get it, @dull ingot
pine iris
update:
rare heart
1.25% health regen per second.
pine iris
I have to pick up every healing item I find
random kernel
why do you despise yourself
rare heart
u r ded
pine iris
I know
dull ingot
no way dude
steady arch
maybe im just getting awful items early in mt runs
dull ingot
i remember in a patch they removed dagger
rare heart
Corpse bloom is what you take to nerf the final boss, not what you take to heal.
pine iris
exactly
random kernel
@dull ingot gimme a second, i'll read the patchnotes
pine iris
used a fruit, one HP per second
random kernel
@rare heart i mean, the boss will then be constantly healing 1.25% of his health, which is also hell
rare heart
Better than 50% per second, in many cases.
random kernel
touche
pine iris
going to do Commando but I can only stack attack speed items
rare heart
That's still pretty solid, you can doubletap at an alarming rate.
pine iris
yeah
do any lunar items give attack speed?
safe vapor
spinel
rare heart
Don't think so, except spinel tonic
random kernel
@pine iris does that include predatory instincts, and if so, would you get other crit items to max crit, as that would technically be increasing attack speed
pine iris
no, literally just attack speed
random kernel
so, other than syringe, what else?
rare heart
Soldiers syringe and bezerkers pauldrons?
random kernel
oh right, forgot about pauldrons
predatory is technically still a crit, and even with 6%, with bullshit attackspeed, that should be good
pine iris
true
random kernel
@icy olive someone answered you in the other chat
icy olive
random kernel
lol, @pine iris are you trying to become a bullet hose
rare heart
It's been like, a century since the contact light crashed and that cancerous goat hoof is still around.
random kernel
that would nuke shit, r ight?
how does it scale with attackspeed?
i mean, how well does it scale?
rare heart
It increases how many shots are fired.
So with high attack speed, it just goes "brrrrrrt"
pine iris
no, regular speed
random kernel
yeah, i'm talking about the falcon punch and speed
it says that it scales well, but how well does it scale though
upbeat ruin
I don't have any numbers. But VERY
pine iris
@rare heart should I try for incorruptible on my atk. speed only run
rare heart
If you're feeling brave... that's a lot of stages to go though with minimal items.
random kernel
@pine iris try the forgive me gesture build
long fern
I am about 85% sure that, when playing as Rex, the chance to get Aqueduct level is about 1/10 and getting Clay Dunestrider on it is about 0.fuck-you/100
trying for an hour an then spending 20 coins on newt altar + dream of sands to get Aqueduct guaranteed is also fun when the Dunestrider doesn't spawn
....
pine iris
about describes it yep
long fern
once I managed to get it to spawn, it was a monsoon run and I had absolutely trash items, it refused to go near the edge of the pit and constantly went into the high shooting animation so I could not push it and just died
long fern
take a shot every time it does not spawn?
yeah, I noticed that when I tried to get a swarm to not kill me
ended up pulling the boss away by accident
ionic raven
I'm sweating.
Just got Two Dio's on this Captain run. Rushing the Boss would be bad at this point, huh?
random kernel
..does the boss steam dio?
long fern
if you succeed then take the glory for yourself
ionic raven
Yes.
random kernel
does he regenerate if he dies with dio?
frosty terrace
just steal em back
random kernel
yeah, but theoretically
past yarrow
No, he doesn't resurrect
random kernel
dang
past yarrow
Probably because you don't actually kill him
finite swallow
If you kill him and you didn't get dios back yet, boss man will revive
pine iris
do any reds increase movement speed?
frosty terrace
I would love to see video proof of that boss revive
oak ferry
play command, try it yourself
pine iris
I'm doing a movement speed only run and want to know if I can pick up reds at all
ionic raven
Does Scrap in Command give you any red item?
finite swallow
Scrapper doesnt spawn in command
ionic raven
Ooooh.
frosty terrace
hardlight afterburner sort of gives movement speed
via giving more skill uses for what is usually a mobility skill
pine iris
looking for linear, not technically
frosty terrace
no direct movement speed from reds then
pine iris
damn, no reds for me
oak ferry
what drops you guys use on captain? i'm thinking of switching to double hack from heal hack
more money for drones
marsh vector
i go double hack
pseudo canyon
how?
frosty terrace
do you have artifacts on?
I got 2 shrines of order right next to each other today when trying command + swarm
but I did also find 3 prototypes in the same map without artifacts, I guess rare things just sometimes happen
finite swallow
no
finite swallow
Doing it with Sacrifice should increase the chances
frosty terrace
I did that prototype unlock on monsoon, I find those prototypes constantly
frosty terrace
just seed luck I guess
grim rock
the odds seem to be in my favor
back to back two items that make one of the best synergies for the engineer both coming from a shrine of chance consecutively
i genuinely want to know the odds for that, winning a shrine twice in a row, it being a white item and a red item, and the odds of it being a fungus and n'kuhana opinion out of all the items
vivid crown
What diffucilty O.o
finite swallow
I forgot a 0 my b
slim prairie
when is purity worth it? it seems like proc items are too essential to good runs to throw away like that
grim rock
the difficulty is monsoon
vivid crown
enjoy your mastery skin
eager dew
if you have 100% crit and bleed
finite swallow
if you are just trying to kill boss on first loop, purity is fine
vivid crown
all you need now is a Dio
Purity is a pretty bleh item unless you think your abiltys are worth more than all of the random effect damages
eager dew
and the bands are not a chance anymore
slim prairie
oh wait did they change the bands
vivid crown
Neither is sticky bomb
eager dew
yes
slim prairie
okay i checked out the change in patch notes and purity seems decent with that
grim rock
@finite swallow when you said the 0.00075% chance, could you show me the maths, wether it be here or dm's or whatever
finite swallow
dont count scrap
finite swallow
so its 0.36 * 1/24 * 0.01 * 1/20 * 100 to get 0.00075%
frosty terrace
oh right, I'm tired
finite swallow
👍
grim rock
what does each value in that represent?
frosty terrace
36% chance shrine gives common item, 1% for legendary
and then for specific item you divide with the amount of items in each category
finite swallow
1/24 for bungus, 1/20 for for n'kuhanas
versed epoch
Just spent 20 minutes fighting Mithrix
Died because he shot me once causing me to burn to death
pine iris
I'm going to beat the shit out of mithrix
grim rock
what are the droprates of aspects?
grim rock
wait a minute
what if we were to add the odds of a shrine of chance spawning on specifically level one
overcomplicate the odds
even add the chance for the stage type and variation of it
pine iris
I'm playing swarms and chaos
the two Mithrix are fighting each other
this is fuckin great
ivory depot
i need to try a swarms + chaos run sooner or later ngl
just for a challenge where i can only deal damage to them using eachother
finite swallow
@grim rock yea i cant do that lmao, idk how the directors work
ivory depot
wait swarms doubles beetle guards? hoooo
or maybe its a byproduct of swarms and chaos, in conjunction.
huh.
pine iris
huh
ivory depot
gl
dull ingot
I need a lot more clovers
echo iris
what is the strat to getting mithrix log?
ivory depot
i really dont know i got it on my first victory
dull ingot
either fight him a bunch of times, or get a lot of clovers
since clovers affect log chance
really? that's so lucky
echo iris
really?
ivory depot
echo iris
pog
dull ingot
nice
echo iris
welp im off to get the log wish me luck
dull ingot
mithrix feet mithrix feet
ivory depot
uh oh
ivory depot
i think im going to regret sending that screenshot
echo iris
maybe
echo iris
no.. stop..
ivory depot
please no
jagged grail
The thirstening has begun
ivory depot
NO
jagged grail
: Oh Mithrix-kun!!
ivory depot
BURN THE MESSAGES BURN THEM NOW BURN THEM AT THE STAKE
ivory depot
i was just about to type out some actual tips but screw it no help for you
jagged grail
No, I really need tips. I can't beat him I'm serious,
ivory depot
uuuuuuugh
fine
dull ingot
which phase do yo udie on
ivory depot
phase 1, stay far away and stay in the air. phase 2, use the pillars to your advantage if you need to rest and heal. phase 3, same as phase 1, but when he uses the flame shockwave, run as far away as you can near the edge of the arena.
phase 4, to dodge the orbs just jump, and always keep moving in circles in order to dodge the minigun
dull ingot
phase 4, kill him before he can start phase 4
ivory depot
and pray he doesnt inflict bleed or get you into a proc chain
echo iris
honestly
gilded vapor
was arti freezing mithrix intended or a bug? just curious
dull ingot
probably intended
ivory depot
i havent actually lost to phase 4 yet but maybe im just ungodly lucky
that is very much not intended
blissful quiver
Did they increase the drop chance for Monster Logs because I have been getting a ton
frosty terrace
I got the mithrix log on like 3rd fight
gilded vapor
same, when I die to mithrix its because I mistimed a hammer swing and got bonked.
echo iris
saamee
ionic raven
Crying. Mithrix gave me the worst red to come back with on the final phase.
dull ingot
is it more effective to sacrifice farm in void fields than in gilded coast?
echo iris
oof
ionic raven
Instead I get Chronobauble'd to death.
austere obsidian
My girlfriend left me for a Chronobauble
wintry nimbus
patent pumice
3 reds
1 is a passive red item
silent cloud
so i've killed mithrix a bunch of time (without artifacts) yet when i see his log, it says Killed: 0. Why? is he actually not dead? 
blissful quiver
I had 10 crit glasses and then took two shrines of the mountain and it spawned an overloading worm and I'm sad
steady arch
im talk aboput sheepie's run
silent cloud
@wintry nimbus add some bleeds to that build and see how bonkers it gets
south stratus
also i can confirm that mithrix has toes
holy shit, thats so hot
dull ingot
bruh
kindred harbor
That run is 
/10
placid turret
So I have 2 monitors and when I move then mouse it keeps clicking into the 2nd monitor in full screen
dull ingot
any quick way to farm and stack red items with sacrifice/command?
latent bronze
whats the basic process of having more than 4 players in a server? any help would be appreiciated
dense ridge
can the cleansing pool appear if you are using the sacrifice artifact? (I know it cannot appear with the command artifact on)
placid turret
So I have 2 monitors and when I move then mouse it keeps clicking into the 2nd monitor in full screen
frosty terrace
I think bazaar is probably best for quick red items
just toss all your greens in, command what reds you want
steel pivot
Are Artifact Key drops influenced by luck? I'm doing a Sacrifice + Command + Swarms run with 4 Purities and I've been waiting for my first key drop for actually 65 minutes.
steel pivot
It's an Acrid run, i'm going full on-kill. Can't get bad procs if you don't have procs
but I'm getting A TON of items. I'm not even picking them up anymore. so regular drops aren't luck based
Ah, crap. I should've put this in game questions. Let me move it there.
pine iris
captain can kill themself using a beacon summon with Chaos on
frosty terrace
probably should avoid that
pine iris
yeah
dull ingot
I have 12 clovers
if I killed mithrix right now, I would have an 11% chance of getting the log
finite swallow
if you have swarms on, you will kill him 6 times, so 6 chances to get the log
dull ingot
ooh I hadn't thought about that
ty
and with 12 clovers, that would actually be like 72 chances to get it
finite swallow
the way i did it was just afk in void with healing and razorwire, then converted all my greens to clovers
dull ingot
that's what im doing rn
finite swallow
did it with about 30
dull ingot
I just got to void, I already have 12 clovers from farming in gilded coast and converting those
finite swallow
for damage i just did a bunch of crowbars, capictor and a lot of gestures
dull ingot
im playing engi so I can afk farm more easily, so turrets keeping items should take care of mithrix
so each phase has a chance to drop the log?
finite swallow
i believe so. First and third for sure, idk about fourth.
dull ingot
fourth?
finite swallow
im counting the wisps as stage 2, so mithrix himself is 1, 3, 4
finite swallow
yea my b
dull ingot
before the edit
finite swallow
if you are afking anyways, the crowbar and capactiro just nukes nukes him. For stage 4, you want to kill him before he takes the clovers in case you dont get the book
dull ingot
yeah
rare heart
Sometimes, farming stage 1 is worth it.
dull ingot
nah
rare heart
Just turned bramble volley into a machine gun!
dull ingot
nice
rare heart
I was literally just thinking "bramble volley would be badass if I had a hardlight afterburner". Then the chest spits one out.
frosty terrace
I got my mithrix log after the add spawning phase, phase 2 I believe
it dropped in the middle
frosty terrace
there's a possibility that it dropped from the first phase but I choose to believe I'm not going blind
dull ingot
do later cell vents spawn enemies faster? I've been farming the first one and it feels kinda slow
finite swallow
for me it dropped on phase 3
@dull ingot I did it after getting to hahahahaha difficulty, and if there are more different typed of enemies it should spawn more.
silent shell
so what do you guys think of the captain? because i think he's Best Waifu. :P
finite swallow
its better to increases difficulty though, as stronger enemies have higher chances to drop stuff
dull ingot
ok ty
silent shell
it's kinda amusing how good Bungus + Razor wire is for farming in there.
dull ingot
nicee
crystal cloak
why did you have 18 whopping gestures @finite swallow
next flicker
why not
crystal cloak
also why so many clovers
clovers sorta stop being useful after 5 or 6 because its basically guaranteed
order?
wait
I have several questions
finite swallow
no fuel cells cause i converted to clovers, because i was using capictor
30 clovers to get that 3% log
and 1% log from wisp
crystal cloak
that sounds disgusting, absolutely disgusting, auto kill by staring
you're the monster here
next flicker
basically Thor run
finite swallow
especially with 88 crowbars
could have gotten more, too lazy to pick stuff up anymore
crystal cloak
basically trivialize the game
yeah I feel that
again you basically trivialized the game by doing this
next flicker
at some point with that number of items you trivialize the game either way
finite swallow
I was using command tho
crystal cloak
literally just melted final boss with the stun canister, aka the most humorous way I could figure
finite swallow
i did the run purely to get logbook
crystal cloak
ah, I was just running with scrap
finite swallow
dont really play mult much, but his m2 never really did much damage for me
unless you mean his alternate primary
crystal cloak
I mean the secondary, as in 39 backup mags, throwing the lil scrap filled bomblets all over him, he had a shrapnel shower followed by a curved yellow beam of 3k% dmg atgs
next flicker
So you're telling us that you just carpet bombed the stages
echo river
is it just me or does acrid feel really weak right now
next flicker
unlimited carpet bombing
crystal cloak
that and, rebar gatling
was intending to do sawblade mul t but I transcended the need to use the saw completely
"I have not been this much god before" I said to my friend as the boss barely took any items before disintegrating to the metal shower
forest fog
Sorry I thought there was One-shot protection
Literally just got healed to full with Daisy and just fucking die
shut jacinth
Does shield still affect one shot protection?
fossil tide
yep that's what killed him
dull ingot
the newt kkicked me out but I didn't do anything
now I can't get the clovers I need
is it cause of nkuahanas?
dull ingot
ok ty
finite swallow
if you really need to, you can just do it before the boss
echo iris
what stage to red farm?
echo iris
aight pog thanks
dull ingot
hoo-rayyy
noble linden
congrats 👏🏾
finite swallow
nice
noble linden
also unlocked captain a while back and holy crap this m2 is terrible 
Like not even from a "maybe I should strategize with it better" perspective but a "it's actually better if I don't use it" one, after a point
I guess the cc becomes much better in multiplayer as utility but man all the other aspects of the skill that aren't the stun don't feel enticing at all
I'll probably give feedback on it when the bot comes back up but I do know about its small aoe and ability to somewhat animation cancel
scenic shell
is huntress regular primary or triple/six shot better
chrome hedge
That largely depends on your build expectations.
Are you doing a first loop Mithrix/Obliterate run? Then Flurry is unlikely to get the crit% needed to scale up.
cunning topaz
UGH
Got 100% crit first loop as flurry huntress
Got to the final stage of mithrix on monsoon
But died to the wandering vagrant item
Mithrix 4th stage is a bitch
chrome hedge
Yeah, don't get Genesis Loop early in your run if you want Mithrix.
First items you get are the last to be returned in that phase
dull ingot
@noble linden if you use it between shotgun blasts it cancels cooldown
errant yew
dont take transcendence into the last phase. i made that mistake
chrome hedge
and just don't get Queen's Gland, or scrap it if you can
cunning topaz
Makes sense
Even when he had ATG and clover he wasnt that bad
the giant AOE bomb is no fun
noble linden
Yeah I noticed the animation cancel, but the shot itself has a noticeable windup time, and together it doesn't feel like you save much time imo
I just wish the skill itself had more use, rather than being a thing to buff m1
dull ingot
agree
frozen stratus
Welp I got commando mastery and unlocked everything for him
anyone have any advice for completing the prismatic trials with merc without falling under 100% health
cobalt aspen
check out cabbage videos in the #prismatic-trials bit, he does it all the time on youtube
check the pin
faint vector
rebar is now wisp popper 3000
shell minnow
gonna post this here since #gd1-nullified is a messy place to be in
4th phase didn't even matter. All i saw was 1M damage.
safe vapor
that is definitely the ideal way of beating phase 4
most the time i get to him i have to kite him
dull ingot
wish we got a proper postmortem damage breakdown
shell minnow
Royal capacitor is broke after the drowned
also can confirm, can't boundry break the boss arena, there's an invisible wall that prevents you from going to the very top.
safe vapor
yea i actually had a capacitor drop on my last commando eclipse run and was totally sold that i had it and ate one of those triangle beam things of all things lol
whoopsie!
29 charges well there you go
faint vector
can someone tell what kiting means
dull ingot
playing tag with enemies while you whittle their hp down
shell minnow
didn't even need to
I just looked at the dude, and the gesture of the drowned did everything.
it even activated during the intro cutscene
muted parrot
my best run yet
opal plaza
I have never pulled off such a huge clutch before
All my drones and even my friend died but I managed to kill the boss and actually get through the teleporter
dull ingot
how do I beat his last stage
i did half of his health before he took all my items
omg he proced ice band on me
so fucking annoying
opal plaza
I'd suggest staying far back
If you're above him at all then most of his attacks miss
opal plaza
Ah, that sucks
dull ingot
i wish I stood on one of the big pillars he cant get to me at all from there
opal plaza
Yeah, you need decent mobility to actually get up them
But if you get launched then you can stay up there
dull ingot
i had the items needed
not sure if you can properly hit him from there if hes standing directly below tho
tip: scrap queen's gland before going into commencement
bleak quarry
why are there not merch like plush toys and figures based on bosses or items or stuff. There is so much opportunity and money to be made
dull ingot
um, mithrix feet
bleak quarry
hot
marsh vector
an acrid plush would sell so well
errant yew
my friend and i just took on mithrix going double loader on monsoon. he somehow clipped into the ceiling and couldnt get back in the arena
loaders kinda broken when it comes to the fight. you just repeatedly hit and run mithrix until he dies
spark narwhal
What are these things called?
dark helm
"one of two creatures without a logbook"
marsh vector
whats the second creature
random laurel
also, who’s the other one? the newt?
dark helm
newt
pretty sure theyre the only 2 things you can see in the gsme without a logbook
birdshark logbook would be kind of cool actually, cool easter egg
steep kettle
fierce quartz
anyone has screenshot of commando build in stage 6 eclipse 1-6
patent pumice
@spark narwhal birdsharks, created from hopoo trying to make grass.
do not ask how he fucked up that badly making grass to make a birdshark
shut jewel
Hopoo is third brother
median iron
it’s not even green wtf
normal hamlet
brisk sleet
what's engi's new utility skill?
brave mason
low shell
Pog
timid relic
where do i get this acrid to repost?
open cedar
I want a white Item which give 5% AoE on spells.
open cedar
Captain not unlock for me. Monsoon is hard. 😆 (and I waited 1 week to descovert the 1.0 with my best friend)
timid relic
or with COMMAND
dry cargo
Monsoon is the path of the gamer
open cedar
Monsoon is the only way to play for me !
blissful quiver
How do you people live like this
dry cargo
I like monsoon vanilla, its a fair challenge but completely attainable
But mithrix monsoon is a real baddie, ive beat him that way with huntress and captain
blissful quiver
Monsoon is fine with characters I’m good with and if I can get a good run going it’s fine but early game is paaaain
dry cargo
Its super rude how mithrix takes your defensive microbots, which allows him to delete your orbital strikes
brisk sleet
I often can get to stage 4 but then everything goes down hill from there
blissful quiver
Yeah that’s about how it goes
dry cargo
Yeah thats a turning point, what time do you get to stage 4?
blissful quiver
Depends