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pulsar loom
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That is an obscenely concerning statistic.

dull ingot
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moment before disaster

analog lintel
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there was a review on rock paper shotgun where the guy said "I cant get past the first stage on anyone but loader", so maybe a lot of new players have trouble with it?

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I honestly couldnt tell you

dull ingot
analog lintel
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oh, you should also always stay away from a scav as it's dying, because it could have a dio's

dull ingot
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its so damn small

analog lintel
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dude

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is that a back up?

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the green dot on it

dull ingot
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its a phone

analog lintel
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BRO

dull ingot
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i guess i should have expected it

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i didnt see it its tiny

analog lintel
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#1 rule for your first few scavs in a run on stage 9/10, is create distance and find cover

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unless youre a melee survivor of/c

dull ingot
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i killed it but his drone killed me

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should have sniped it

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so annoying damn that was a good run

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i was almost gonna beat the game without lunars

hard lily
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man

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I need to figure out how to fight magma worm again

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they're dang aggressive now

analog lintel
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yeah, leaving the tp zone entirely works pretty well

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I feel like they dont even do that giant leap phases anymore

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they just stay in the ground and pop out at you

hard lily
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annoying

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do they stay near the teleporter or something?

analog lintel
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no, but kiting it makes it a bit easier I feel

dull ingot
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Has anyone managed to break a scrapper yet

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Cause I did

solid wing
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regarding steam achievements

analog lintel
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yeah

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just feed it a used dio

solid wing
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remind yourselves that since the 1.0 update, you recieve the achievements when you open the game for the first time after updating it, so it doesn't reflect actual stats

lucid quarry
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is mult a good character and are there any items that work really well with him

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sorry mul-t

analog lintel
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hes amazing

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and yeah, on hit , specifically any proc chain and tri-tip especially

lucid quarry
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thanks

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all my friends keep saying hes terrible

raven lichen
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MulT very good. was mid grade pre patch but he got a ton of buffs and is pretty good now. also has a few different viable playstyles

analog lintel
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if you hold your ulti key and lmb, you can rapid fire rebar too

cobalt forge
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I fed my tonic affliction to a scrapper, it jammed the thing but god damn did I need to get rid of that

past yarrow
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Shit, you can do that?

plain fiber
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how do you get the logbook entry for the captains red item?

river crest
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I've been using Thunder Gauntlet recently, and damn is this thing pretty fun

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I mean not being able to hold charge is a bit annoying but it's worth it IMO

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the 1000% cone is really handy for dealing with teleporter

fickle oracle
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Friends and I made an items tier list

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We made some for equipment and lunars too but I don't want to spam

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Thoughts ?

warped pine
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Good

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Btw I think queen's gland is d or e even

fickle oracle
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Interesting

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Just for like drawing aggro?

sand gull
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how did dios bear and boss bullets get so low

past yarrow
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Boss bullets should be much higher imho

fickle oracle
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Our reasoning for ap rounds was that basically any other white damage up (focus crystal, syringe, crit glasses, etc) works on not only bosses, but any enemy

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And bosses usually aren't the biggest problems

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Sure mithrix it's a little better, but honestly it would be nicer to just have like a syringe instead of an ap rounds

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Also if you die with Dios, it usually means you are gonna die again soon, at high level gameplay

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theoretically

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It's really good on Engie though

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I could see it being a bit higher in D tier or maybe even low C tier but I think it's ok where it is

errant atlas
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yeah dio bear is like why even have it if you died you'll die again

fickle oracle
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I agree

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obviously Engie is an exception because the turrets get it right back when you place them again

errant atlas
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did not know that happened

fickle oracle
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It's great on engie

random laurel
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resonance disc deserves better

fickle oracle
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You think? How so

random laurel
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having something that just occasionally does a ton of damage to a random enemy is really useful

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it also helps a lot on survivors that struggle with targeting multiple enemies at once

fickle oracle
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That's true

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The thing that sold the low tier for me was the fact is has a 0 proc coefficient on hit

random laurel
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thats fair

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it would be insane if it could proc AtG

fickle oracle
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Technically on the way to the target and on the way back has proc coef of 1 but the hit itself doesnt which is like why?

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Yeah if it has a proc coef it would be much better

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just get a fat rocket and instakill a boss

steady arch
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@fickle oracle does the bleed change make tri tip s?

fickle oracle
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Ooooooh yeah

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Before the change it would have been like B maybe? idk

steady arch
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Thought so, never played a strong bleed build yet

fickle oracle
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But the change makes bleed insane

steady arch
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ye

past kelp
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plz tell me here isnt as crazy as 1

fickle oracle
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It's definitely more chill than game discussion 1

past kelp
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thank god

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sucks bc the one question i joined this discord to ask is a question that requires a lot of people's input

fickle oracle
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Hmm

true roost
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Whats up hyper

past kelp
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its more people's experience with the game, my question was if people were getting hand pains playing captain due to his m1

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ive been playing him a bunch over the past 2 days and havent felt anything, but ik my perspective isnt the same as others

true roost
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Oh no I haven't, I could sorta understand if you use your mouse weirdly but I haven't noticed anything and I've sunk a few hours into him

fickle oracle
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If you're getting hand pains, that's something you're gonna want to get checked out

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Unless your hand posture is like really bad? I'm not sure what would cause hand pains using a computer

past kelp
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im not, but i wanna introduce someone to the game and they do get hand pain?

fickle oracle
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I see

past kelp
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mainly when like doing a lot of actions with their fingers

fickle oracle
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Ah ok i gotcha. I think captain is probably one of the less painful characters, most of the other ones involve clicking really fast or holding down buttons for a long time

past kelp
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ic

chrome hedge
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Or maybe you're just playing Captain with high attack speed and trying to maximize M1 dps. 😓

fickle oracle
past kelp
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i asked also bc i saw a post on reddit about someone's issues with the game and they mentioned mul-t and captain since rebar puncher had complaints over hand cramps/pains after long play sessions and then they gave that old firing mechanic to captain

fickle oracle
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Interesting

past kelp
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its not quite the same but its similar for the most accurate shot

fickle oracle
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I've never experienced any hand pain health problems so yeah I'm not sure what would be the most painful, I guess

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I guess he could give it a try

past kelp
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they cant get the game yet is the thing

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but yeah thats the only real way

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ty for responding to my question though

hollow linden
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Finally got to wave 8 on Monsoon for the first time tonight, after months of trying I was finally about to unlock the alt colour for my main character.
Then I took a victory screenshot and taking it crashed my game.

heady marsh
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rip

silent kiln
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so who is mithrix exactly?

marsh vector
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mithrix is very likely the brother of providence from ror1

silent kiln
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ah

marsh vector
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not confrimed, but pretty obvious based on log entries

silent kiln
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also... what's the 'you have been sequenced'

marsh vector
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is that a death message?

silent kiln
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nope

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last moments though XD

marsh vector
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when does it appear

silent kiln
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i remember running free willy and clikcing on a totem

marsh vector
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oooooooooooooo thats shrine of order

silent kiln
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it was a circle in a circle i believe

fickle oracle
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I think "you have been sequenced" is a void reaver kill message right?

silent kiln
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( '-') ?

marsh vector
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yeah shrine of order it randomises all of your items to be exactly one per tier

fickle oracle
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Oh right it's shrine of order

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duh

silent kiln
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( T-T)

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i was so close

marsh vector
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look up shrine of order on the ror2 wiki

silent kiln
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so close to obelisk

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i thought it was a shrine of combat...

past kelp
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look man you finished the run even if you didnt get the coins

silent kiln
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i used a majority of lunar in that run though ( ._.)

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eh whatevs

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again i go into the great beyond

past kelp
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good luck

silent kiln
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thx fellow gamer ( ^-^)

opal plaza
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Man, if void realms want you dead they sure will succeed

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My first enemies was golems and the first item was the bear

errant yew
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void is great when you go on stage 1. even if you dont complete it, the items you gain will really boost you in the first loop

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unless you get bad rng. all the homies hate bad rng

opal plaza
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Yeah, I rolled the dice and got obliterated for it

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I mean really, what's even the chance of golems and bears when I'm playing captain?

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If I has my orbital strikes it would be sooo much easier

errant yew
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yea getting killed by bs is how roguelikes work

opal plaza
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Not all the time but yeah

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Also it's so weird suddenly doing far better on Monsoon

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Last night stage 3 was my best, today it was my first loop so stage 6

errant yew
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once you get familiar enough with the game, monsoon becomes pretty easy. especially after this update

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ive got a lot of beef with this update

opal plaza
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Really?

errant yew
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im a paste what i was typing

opal plaza
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What's your opinion on it

errant yew
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last night i was super tired but decided to write my thoughts/feedback about the new update, and my doc ended up being 5 fucking pages, no double space or anything. im almost done with it but when i am, should i just leave the pdf in the feedback tab?

opal plaza
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Hm

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Could you sum it up?

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Downloads like that are rather broken for me

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For whatever reason

errant yew
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can i just send you what ive got and you can ignore any grammar or mistakes i have

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or i can call you and explain

opal plaza
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Also to give my opinion on it, I actually love the new update, I'm not exactly a meta person so I've barely looked anything up

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I would but its 11:15

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So far I cant comment on anything but Captain, the stage and boss

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The moon as a stage needs work but I over all like the theme of it

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The boss, I like him mainly because it's both a actual boss but also isnt too different

errant yew
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same time for me. Risk of Rain is easily one of my all time favorite games but the update really messed with it for me. im not trying to be a hater at all and i know how hard hopoo works on this game but there's a problem with how rng can be manipulated super easily now, removing a core component from the game. all the bugs, and moon stuff i can get over since they can always release patches and whatever but they changed really changed the fundamental gameplay a ton

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sorry about any grammar mistakes, i just type as fast as i can

opal plaza
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You can manipulate the rng?

errant yew
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again a lot to explain

opal plaza
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You don't need to go into detaim

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I just didnt know it was even possible

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Also just remember, I personally dont care too much about the most optimal level to play, I find stuff like abusing shaped glass sorta, boring

errant yew
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thats why i wanted to leave the doc in feedback so the devs could see it. i havent heard anyone adress this change at all so i really felt inspired for some reason to shed some light it. so inspired i was up till 4 typing a bunch of nonsense🤦‍♂️

opal plaza
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Ah

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Well dont worry, I probably can translate nonsense into something pretty well

errant yew
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all i want is for the game to be at its maximum potential, and im concerned about the new route the game is heading down

opal plaza
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Oh?

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I completely rng manipulation shouldnt be a thing

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I mean, what's the point of the game even being random in the first place if you can just manipulate it to your will

errant yew
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rng is what makes roguelikes so fun and addicting so i immediately saw redflags on day 1

opal plaza
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Roguelikes are rather addicting to me

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Mainly for the fact I'm a very competitive person

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So having a game I can challenge myself with well having fun is what I like most

lapis violet
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how do I "repair the broken robot with the escape pods fuel array?"

errant yew
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the competitive person inside me is who plays CoD, but the intellectual me is what finds this game so great

opal plaza
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Why do so many people ask questions in this chat?

lapis violet
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oh im sorry

opal plaza
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Its fine

lapis violet
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i ussually have it set to game questions

opal plaza
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You take the pack from the back of the ship to stage 4 and give it to the plant

lapis violet
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like when i go to this server its almost always on game questions

errant yew
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@lapis violet look in the back of the drop pod you came in. take the fuel array. get to abyssal depths. rex will be toward the top island. dont fall below 50% hp thought or you will die

lapis violet
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das my b

languid yarrow
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this channel is fine to ask questions in

errant yew
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i ask questions all the time here

lapis violet
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no theres a whole channel made specifically for that

opal plaza
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I just find it odd how so many people ask questions here them instantly go into the question chat

lapis violet
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@errant yew thanks

opal plaza
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They can ask, I just find it odd

languid yarrow
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people even ask questions in #general. it's not a big deal

errant yew
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no problem. i like asking question here since it usually turns into a conversation

opal plaza
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That is fair

past kelp
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you can cheese the fuel cell by using mul-t and either never using one of your left clicks or swapping when its about to blow

opal plaza
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Also can i just say Risk of rain has such a cool theme over all?

errant yew
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themes are usually the thing indie games do really well at giving

opal plaza
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Its futuristic but simple, not insainly futuristic

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Anyways, back onto topic, aside from the rng manipulation, what do you think of Captain?

errant yew
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i like captain. he obviously has some problems but hopoo will fix them soon. im glad that we have another character who can shoot stuff with an actual gun

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the update isnt perfect by all means but hopoo can always fix stuff later

opal plaza
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Yeah, I honestly am a huge sucker for amazing looking things so I absolutely love this update

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Also I can agree on the gun

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After maining Artificer for so long I really needed something else

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Commando was too basic for my taste, the melee characters are fun but are a bit gimmicky for me, Huntress is nice but too low of damage, Artificer is fun but I dislike the nanobomb changes

errant yew
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playing this game during the 2 weeks coming up to this update was some of the most fun ive had throughout all of early access, but i havent found anywhere as much fun this week with the update. none of my runs have the same amount of engagement as before which is why i wrote that damn high school essay addressing my problem. i swear im not trying to hate on the game for no reason, but im probably gonna stop playing it soon

opal plaza
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Captain? Aside from the mobility I love everything about him, good damage, not top tier (I think?) A gun that is a sniper but also a shotgun

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Oh? Not much to do I assume?

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I'll be honest, content is the biggest problem for me in most games, usually only end game stuff interests me so I usually aim for that and go so far by the time I get it I'm burnt out

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I'm looking at you Destiny

errant yew
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no i already had done everything in the game long before this update came out but i still kept coming back to this game because its the best damn roguelike out there. the new rng problem really fucked a lot of stuff

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also destiny did really fall off a cliff

opal plaza
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Is there no way to avoid it?

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Yeah Destiny has drove me insane, both games in fact

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First I was just done after beating the last raid in the game and getting the wost item, and the second when the new season came out to be just more grinding

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I'll probably always play ror2 just because its infinite, I can just go until my computer explodes

errant yew
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i played d1 a bunch, but didnt really pick up d2. i played forsaken which was fun but i got tired of all the grinding and the sweats

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i completed kings fall in d1

opal plaza
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Destiny is the reason I hate the meta of games

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Or at least the highest tier of stuff

errant yew
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i have the same problem with CoD. whenever i get sick of cod, i come and play this game

opal plaza
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I've personally never liked CoD

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I find titanfall 2 far better

errant yew
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titanfall 2 is a masterpiece but its a shame it never really took off

opal plaza
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I mean, I've started over at least 5 times just enjoying the game

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I mean, it has yet to fall at least

errant yew
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i play cod since thats the game i was raised playing

opal plaza
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I played halo the most as a kid

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Well, in relations to games like that

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Borderlands 2 and Terraria would be my most played

errant yew
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my childhood game evolution went from pokemon platinum to halo reach to cod mw3/bo2 to destiny to all the roguelikes i play now

opal plaza
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I had probably the most odd evolution

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I started with God of War and Resident Evil at the age of like 5

errant yew
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everyone in my 5th grade class was playing minecraft while i was dolphin diving in black ops with my brother

opal plaza
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I've always preferred Terraria over Minecraft to be honest

errant yew
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minecraft was fun when i played it on the 360 for the first time with my friends but thats about all the fun i had with the game. its a shame i never heard of terraria when it was relevant

opal plaza
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To be honest, i like how quiet Terraria is as an community

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I mean, just chill communities in general I prefer

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Main reason I'm actually talking here to be honest

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Most chill server I've seen relating to a game

errant yew
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this games community is the only one i feel like i have ever been some kind of part in. everyone here is pretty chill

opal plaza
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My main problem with servers Is how many people are in it

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Usually it's so busy it's hard to actually be friends with anyone

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That and they are so restrictive usally

errant yew
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i dont really have anyone to play games with anymore so this server is pretty much the only reason i have discord

opal plaza
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I mean just look at the art chat, you can actually talk in it without being yelled at

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I've never had friends irl so Discord is sorta my only chance to be social

frozen stratus
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Do you think Captain should be nerfed?

opal plaza
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No-

errant yew
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@frozen stratus doesnt need to be nerfed of buffed. just needs to be fixed

opal plaza
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Like nothing about him needs nerfed

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He is mostly fair

frozen stratus
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I love him how he is, he's my favorite character

opal plaza
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Aside from Void realms

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That's effectively suicide

frozen stratus
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Void realms ez on captain

golden tangle
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He can hold his own easily in the void

opal plaza
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Excuse me?

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Try saying that to a golem with 5 bears

frozen stratus
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well that's different it depends if rng fucks you over

opal plaza
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Yeah

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I knew once I got golems I'm dead

errant yew
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the void is hard with any character depending on how bad of rng you get. the rng is what makes it so fun though

frozen stratus
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^

opal plaza
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I mean really, I was looking down the sites of 5 golems

golden tangle
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his stun keeps him safe enough

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I just wish it was better

frozen stratus
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utilize his stuns

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I want to cosplay as the captain

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Issue is I don't know what undershirt or what to do for the helmet

opal plaza
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I've already picked what I'm making a cosplay of

golden tangle
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the only item they can get that really screws me over is the tesla

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they get that and its game

opal plaza
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I would pick captain but I'm already determined to be a Bloodborne Hunter

frozen stratus
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Also how to get roles?

opal plaza
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No clue, I haven't checked

errant yew
golden tangle
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self role channel

opal plaza
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Anyways, back into topic

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This server is honestly my favorite so far

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Every other server that's been game related/ serious servers are usually so dull

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Or uh- toxic

errant yew
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most of my time playing games now is spent on roguelikes by myself so its nice to talk to people about them

opal plaza
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Yeah

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Most of my time is spent playing, drawing or talking

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I've never had a life so it's not like I can do anything else

errant yew
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if you ever feel like shit in life, just keep going. thats what ive been doing and here i am

opal plaza
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Ah, I'm sorry to hear that

frozen stratus
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I enjoy talking to people on this discord

errant yew
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hey you got a role

frozen stratus
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Indeed

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except the role selection is kind of broken

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I don't play MUL-T

sonic beacon
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Yep its broken

frozen stratus
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Captain is my new main, then merc, then commando

opal plaza
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Mine is Captain and Artificer

frozen stratus
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I've tried artificer my god I suck with her

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I have no precision what so ever

opal plaza
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She is fun but Oh my the fireballs are sorta annoying

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Good range but close range sucks

frozen stratus
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That's what makes it difficult for me

opal plaza
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I usally kept a backup bag for only mobs

golden tangle
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Artificer is probably the best survivor to use when killing mithrix, that and rex

frozen stratus
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Because of that snap freeze ability thingy

sharp atlas
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If you grapple into mythrix with loader, it stays attached, even when he teleports to the center to do the ground pound, leading to some crazy long grapple wires

frozen stratus
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loader can one shot mythrix

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that's how I completed the game first time theydancin

golden tangle
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same with rex's r root, the binding vines will stretch to an extreme

errant yew
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well im gonna head off. tomorrow i'll publish my 4am constructive criticism in feedback so please read it. i havent heard anyone talk about this change and i feel it really needs to be addressed

sharp atlas
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Yeah I beat him with shaped glass and loader

frozen stratus
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oh god...

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shaped glass with loader?! B u t why?!

golden tangle
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which changes we talking?

frozen stratus
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rip your 1 shot protection

sharp atlas
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Because saitama moment

frozen stratus
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fair

sharp atlas
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I only use shaped glass on loader, for the memes

golden tangle
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loader doesnt really need to worry about it to be honest if you simply keep swining around

opal plaza
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Night IcedT, I hope things go well

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Also could you send it to me so I can read it?

sharp atlas
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Well, at phase 3, the pillars he makes when he slams the ground will fuck you up if you swing into them

opal plaza
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Or at least ping me when you do post it

errant yew
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a giant change i noticed with being able to manipulate rng. not going into depth now but please read it tomorrow. i want it to get enough traction so the devs will see it

sharp atlas
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Seigbrew item when? @opal plaza

opal plaza
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Whenever we have a reason to celebrate

frozen stratus
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Have you ever just played Captain and just keep thinking of the one scene from Captain Phillips where one of the pirates goes: "Look at me. I'm the captain now!"

sharp atlas
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Yes, and I constantly try not to just randomly say it to my friends too

frozen stratus
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I DO IT ALL THE TIME! My friends get pissed at me everytime I do it but I can't help it!

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Especially when I repair 1000+ drones

sharp atlas
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I always tell my one friend he’s gonna regret the tonic, but he doesn’t listen

frozen stratus
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There's a way to drink the tonic without getting the debuff

opal plaza
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Well, I probabaly would if I had friends to play ror2 with

sharp atlas
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Engage in some jolly cooperation

frozen stratus
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The only issue with me and multiplayer

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is sharing

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Sharing is not caring

sharp atlas
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Dude

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My one friend, every time we kill the worship unit

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He is the reason I play with chaos on

opal plaza
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Well problem is, random people just isnt fun

frozen stratus
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I will never play with random people on risk of rain 2

opal plaza
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I mostly prefer knowing the people so I can get an idea on what I can do

frozen stratus
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exactly^

pulsar loom
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I need a mod where i start with enough shaped glass to be at 1 HP

opal plaza
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Why?

frozen stratus
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cough artifact of glass cough

pulsar loom
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shits and giggles, probably try and do a hitless run once or twice like that

frozen lintel
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the real question is, how do you make friends in ror2 ;c

frozen stratus
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close enough

pulsar loom
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You make friends by not stealing items from people online

frozen stratus
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^

pulsar loom
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That or just getting to know folk here

frozen stratus
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actually communicating

frozen lintel
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and watch them steal items from you? what

frozen stratus
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Important question: Enforcer or Captain?

pulsar loom
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I mean if they steal items from you, they're either cunts, or you did it first

opal plaza
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Wait I just thought of something stupid

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4 captains, how do you think that would go?

frozen stratus
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LMAO

frozen lintel
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Most games I see after the update are ones that have already started, if only there was a filter to filter the ones that haven't started yet

pulsar loom
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How do you scout a map with 4 captains

frozen stratus
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EXACTLY!^

opal plaza
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You dont

frozen lintel
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and @opal plaza legit 50% of lobbies have all captains

dry cargo
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With posture and elegance

frozen stratus
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You hack every chest you see

frozen lintel
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People wanna flex their captains

dry cargo
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Hack whole map, leave

opal plaza
#

On a quick note

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How good is Captain compared to everyone else?

pulsar loom
#

Captain feels really down the middle for me

frozen stratus
#

is sniper still in the game?

opal plaza
#

The outlaw if I'm correct?

frozen stratus
#

well his game files

opal plaza
#

I think they would still be there

pulsar loom
#

Good damage, nice team utility, cool passive, buuuut.
Ass mobility and hatred towards hidden realms.

opal plaza
#

Yeah

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Especially if its golems with bears

frozen stratus
#

captain is a living god character those beacons are my life

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he also looks the coolest out of all the characters

opal plaza
#

Yeah

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Also I dont use the beacons too much honestly

pulsar loom
#

Am i blind or can you not do multiplayer eclipse

opal plaza
#

No clue

languid yarrow
#

Nope

quartz saffron
#

only singleplayer

languid yarrow
#

Eclipse is single player only

frozen stratus
#

If you guys had to choose one which one: Enforcer or Captain?

opal plaza
#

Captain

languid yarrow
#

Captain

opal plaza
#

I do like Enforcer though

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He could be a good utility character

frozen stratus
#

I feel like Enforcer should make a return still

opal plaza
#

Well, what character type are we missing?

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We have support with Captain

elder cloud
#

buffer

opal plaza
#

Most are offence

frozen stratus
#

A tank

opal plaza
#

True true

frozen stratus
#

That's why I think enforcer would be perfect

opal plaza
#

Yeah

frozen stratus
#

Also a long range shooter

pulsar loom
#

To be fair, a lot of "roles" in multiplayer can be made by item distribution

frozen stratus
#

sniper maybe needed

opal plaza
#

Hmm, that is true

pulsar loom
#

Give someone enough teddy bears and plates, tank. Give someone enough fungus and racks, healer. Give someone enough ATG's and crit glasses, DPS

opal plaza
#

Yes but that requires items

frozen stratus
#

But at the same time the abilites are the main thing that make the character it's "class" or "role"

opal plaza
#

Characters should mostly be a base

pulsar loom
#

i'm not arguing that abilities aren't the main base
Just saying that if you let the one guy hog some item combos, you can improv a lotta roles

opal plaza
#

Yeah

frozen stratus
#

What's the next character you guys think will be added?

opal plaza
#

Could be anything

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I mean, I wasn't expecting Captain, that's for sure

frozen stratus
#

Me either

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Captain was just the best addon in the game

opal plaza
#

I sorta forgot he was even the new character

frozen stratus
#

and he made sense in the lore purpose

opal plaza
#

Anyways, something I'm curious about

golden tangle
#

Based on how the game has been designed to play, bandit and chef could make a return of a sort. I'd like to see maybe a ranged melee hybrid so the opposite of acrid

frozen stratus
#

I freaked out when I saw the 1.0 poster

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I feel like there's too many melee characters

opal plaza
#

What do you guys think of a Steam Workshop for ror2?

frozen stratus
#

Hell yes!

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Yet at the same time I'm scared as I was looking at the mods I found a mod called "Final Boss Cum Zone"

opal plaza
#

Actually, I got an idea

golden tangle
#

Thats the thing we have a lot of melee but none that are ranged into a melee capabalitiy

opal plaza
#

So, you guys know the final boss of ror1?

low shell
#

Hello

opal plaza
#

What if he was a character?

frozen stratus
#

GOD YES!

golden tangle
#

wont happen

opal plaza
#

Hello Hee Yaw

golden tangle
#

maybe as a mod

low shell
#

😄

golden tangle
#

but never as an official character

opal plaza
#

I mean, it would fit

low shell
#

ew

frozen stratus
#

Yello hee yaw

opal plaza
#

What?

low shell
#

Emoji

opal plaza
#

Oh

golden tangle
#

it would fit for fighting mithrix but not working with the other survivors

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your not there to save the planet

frozen stratus
#

Mithrix as a survivor

sharp atlas
#

Mithrix as a regular tele boss

low shell
#

Oh god lol

frozen stratus
#

NOOO plz

#

Noo more mithrix

#

I have ptsd from that fight!

golden tangle
#

literally lore wise its makes sense you could have providence fight mithrix but in the regards to ror1 he'd want everyone hes working with dead

opal plaza
#

Well think about it, in game i dont see a reason why he couldn't work

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Nothing says you work eith survivors

#

Aside from maybe the ending but you could explain that as he took it because it was the only way out

frozen stratus
#

I need to find out the whole lore of ror2

golden tangle
#

in risk of rain 1 YOU are the monster not providence

frozen stratus
#

But how?

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Providence is the one that interrupted the shipment of the cargo

patent pumice
#

i see lore talk.

opal plaza
#

Yeah

frozen stratus
#

Indeed

patent pumice
#

Depending on your perspective, either can be the "bad guy".

opal plaza
#

Maybe both are bad

frozen stratus
#

How so? @patent pumice

opal plaza
#

Anyways

patent pumice
#

We massacre innocent monsters.
They don't attack us first by lore.

low shell
#

Hmmmmn

frozen stratus
#

Wait really?!

patent pumice
#

They see us as a demon who killed their protector.

low shell
#

Lol true

frozen stratus
#

bruh... I never knew this

#

But wait how do they get stronger over time?

low shell
#

They get mad

patent pumice
#

thats gameplay

low shell
#

Lol

patent pumice
#

While we see them as monsters, with a zookeeper who crashed our ship.
but we also had a teleporter on our ship, from the planet.

frozen stratus
#

Wait so was providence the protector?

patent pumice
#

Providences title is Bulwark of the Weak

opal plaza
#

Also the main reason why I suggest the the ror1 final boss is because he can both use his sword and other stuff like that

#

So he has range and melee

patent pumice
#

suggest what

golden tangle
#

Where is risk of rain 2 in the timeline compared to 1

opal plaza
#

I think after?

patent pumice
#

at the least 20+ years after.

golden tangle
#

wait, does that mean the contact light never returned?

patent pumice
#

it crashed.

golden tangle
#

again?

frozen stratus
#

Where can I find the full lore of risk of rain?

patent pumice
#

sigh time to explain
ror1 commando fixed up the front and went off. He got to Earth. The end.

golden tangle
#

gotcha

patent pumice
#

The ships front is the VERY front, the part we fight provi.

low shell
#

Tougher_Times this is me trying to understand all of this lore

patent pumice
#

i can post copypastas but it isn't fit for this chat.

frozen stratus
#

Of the entire lore?

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I'll take one copy!

patent pumice
#

theres 4 copypastas for "basic" explanations.

opal plaza
#

ConstructionBoi I still need to figure out the lore but for now I'll just continue loving the games theme

patent pumice
#

ror1, ror2, acrids story, and mithrixs linearity story

frozen stratus
#

give me all

low shell
#

Acrid best boy

frozen stratus
#

no captain best boy

patent pumice
#

ill post the full ror1 and ror2 copypastas in here.

opal plaza
#

Like, can we all agree that ror1 and 2 have an amazing theme?

patent pumice
#

Here is ROR1:
UES:CL got slammed down by Providence, and he teleported to the ship via the teleporter in the back. Don't ask how it got there, we don't know.
Most of the crew died, and the 7 million items of Cargo flew everywhere.
Commando, the main character of ror1, and the one who writes the ror1 monster logs, survives. He explores the planet, using the teleporters and killing 1 of every type of boss and enemy at the least (most of those 1 types are a one of a kind).
He then finds Acrid in a cage, and releases him. They fight, and Acrid runs off (this is what happened, he did NOT escape nor is his run canon).
After that, he gets to UES:CL, opens the doors, and defeats Providence.
After his death, he uses the front part of UES:CL and escapes, but its unknown if he survived.

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Here is ROR2:
UES:ST gets sent out from Earth or another planet in the solar system to UES:CLs last known location: Petrichor V. We're sent for a rescue mission.
When the ship gets there, they scan the planet for survivors and UES:CL, but find neither, meaning that all the survivors are dead and/or hiding and that the front of UES:CL was taken (we knew this already).
The characters we play as are there for collection of lost UES:CL cargo and exploration of the planet, while also doing other parts of a mission that we may not know.
We learn that Mithrix, Providences Brother, exists and is still alive on the moon that Sky Meadows is around, which is far away from the planet, thanks to the interplanetary teleporter.
We use the Primordial Teleporter, a special teleporter which aligns to the moon, and go and kill Mithrix for some unknown reason.
After we kill him, Void Reavers come to take over the Moon, as we know that they are the reason for the implosion of the moon.
We escape from an escape ship, and go onto UES:ST as we watch it implode into the void realm.

low shell
#

Holy HECK

patent pumice
#

theres """alot""" of canonical lore.

opal plaza
low shell
#

wOw

opal plaza
#

Dats a text block

wraith thunder
#

whats the best red item for commando?

opal plaza
#

No clue

patent pumice
low shell
#

I dunnnno

patent pumice
#

so clover and any proc reds.

wraith thunder
#

oh thanks

quartz saffron
#

what does ST stand for?

low shell
#

Sit tan

patent pumice
#

safe travels

golden tangle
#

I'm going to assume the rescue mission was intended to get the teleporter back

patent pumice
#

it says that on the opening cutscene

quartz saffron
#

ah right safe travels

patent pumice
#

dsoul no, it was not.

low shell
#

yup

frozen stratus
#

Wouldn't commando still be alive if he made it in ror2?

patent pumice
#

what

low shell
#

Um

patent pumice
#

Acrid is the only one that is the same being between both games.

low shell
#

Oh nice

patent pumice
#

Commando is a job. Multiple mandos exist.

#

same goes for every other character.

low shell
#

See Acrid is best boy

#

What about captain?

patent pumice
#

REX is apart of their serial number, MUL-T and other bots are robots
Acrid is describing their being

#

captain is a job, no?

golden tangle
#

I think the captain is more of an exception

quartz saffron
#

well captain wasn't in 1

patent pumice
#

captain is not an exception

#

As I just said
Acrid is the only exception.

low shell
#

ok ) :

golden tangle
#

So every captain as a shotgun arm?

low shell
#

Lol

patent pumice
#

he is unique, but that doesn't mean he was in ror1.

frozen stratus
#

Do you guys think the stop watch should be readded?

patent pumice
#

captain is still a job.

#

stop watch and any other time stopping items are never being added

#

devs stated this a while back.

low shell
#

Huh

frozen stratus
#

Noooo! How come?

quartz saffron
#

So every captain as a shotgun arm?
no, some others have lasers or rocket launchers

low shell
#

lol

lunar cedar
#

could be only our captain

frozen stratus
#

How else am I suppose to do a jojo reference with loader?!

patent pumice
#

forgot why not
but i know it wont ever

quartz saffron
#

some even have flamethrower prostetics

lunar cedar
#

but Cap is a human, yes ?

patent pumice
#

captain is unique in physicality, like most other characters.
captain is human.

#

but captain is still a job.

opal plaza
#

How else am I suppose to do a jojo reference with loader?!
Just play Captain, he is a reference

frozen stratus
#

Captain is a jojo reference

low shell
#

They should make it so you can change what his arm shoots

patent pumice
#

no jojo references ingame
none.

frozen stratus
#

I don't care what they say captain is a jotaro

lunar cedar
#

I like how he wears Lens Maker Glasses on his hat

low shell
#

That would be cool

lunar cedar
#

he doesn't need them lol. Just pose with them

frozen stratus
#

Captain: Yare yare daze

patent pumice
#

if you think Dios best friend is a reference
That was the name of hopoos cat. was.
rip dio, we'll miss you.

low shell
#

What?

golden tangle
#

this chat has gone' into insanity

low shell
#

Oh

lunar cedar
#

His running animation is cool.

low shell
#

) :

quartz saffron
low shell
#

F in the chat for duo

#

Duo

patent pumice
#

dio*

low shell
#

Dio

quartz saffron
#

dio was from a song right?

opal plaza
#

if you think Dios best friend is a reference
That was the name of hopoos cat. was.
rip dio, we'll miss you.
I'll be honest, I never assumed Dios best friend was a Jojo reference

low shell
#

God dammit autocorrect

frozen stratus
#

Dio's best friend IS A REFERENCE TO HOW DIO CAN'T DIE!

patent pumice
#

dio was not from a song
dio was Hopoos cats name.

frozen stratus
#

I had to do it im sorry.

lunar cedar
#

Kono Dio daaaaaaaa

patent pumice
#

Dios best friend was their stuffed animal.

opal plaza
#

Aw, that's sad

low shell
#

Sadge

#

F

lunar cedar
#

old age death ?

patent pumice
#

dunno

frozen stratus
#

Do you guys think the stop watch too op in ror1?

lunar cedar
#

Death's Hourglass or what was it ?

quartz saffron
low shell
#

Oh

opal plaza
#

I just noticed they added Captain doing the Russian dance to the emotes

low shell
#

Pog

frozen stratus
#

tinycaptaindance OH MY GOD

#

it's beautiful

lunar cedar
#

put it pls

#

i have no nitro

low shell
#

Oh dear god

quartz saffron
lunar cedar
#

based

frozen stratus
#

my god... ror1 lore is deep and sad

low shell
#

When you a poor boy with no nitro

#

lol

frozen stratus
#

wait are we the monsters in ror2 technically if the monsters are still passive until we arrive?

low shell
#

Well they do try to kill us automatically

silk zealot
#

they attempt first strike

frozen stratus
#

but ror1 they were passive.

silk zealot
#

no they were not

lunar cedar
#

well you're basically destroifying the planet's inhabitants

frozen stratus
#

they were @silk zealot until we arrive

silk zealot
#

if you succeed in-game, you've ruined the planet's ecosystem

lunar cedar
#

working your way from survivor to death incarnate

low shell
#

Yay

#

I love killing animals

#

Money

frozen stratus
#

god damn ror make me sad now CryingCarson

low shell
#

Lol

silk zealot
#

risk of rain without context is poaching simulator

lunar cedar
#

You're basically like doomslayer. Except when you kill the things you don't get health. YOu get money

#

you're capitalist doomguy. Or doomgal.

low shell
silk zealot
#

i think of it more like a sized-up killing floor

frozen stratus
#

LMAO

lunar cedar
#

idk but huntress' log kinda explains a bit

low shell
#

🧄

lunar cedar
#

the last bottom text there.

frozen stratus
#

what a perfect song for killing children

low shell
frozen stratus
#

AWW ITS SO CUTE

lunar cedar
#

where's my river.

frozen stratus
#

is that sulcata?!

low shell
#

Oh POG

#

someone knew

frozen stratus
#

bruh wheres my ocean?!

low shell
#

Lol

frozen stratus
#

I work at a pet store

low shell
#

Nice

frozen stratus
#

We have one that just walks around the store

low shell
#

lol

#

His name is bonsai

#

Bonzai

frozen stratus
#

Can I have him?

low shell
#

No

#

He’s mine

#

Probably going to outlive me tbh

frozen stratus
#

plz SAD

#

how old are you?

low shell
#

16

frozen stratus
#

50/50

low shell
#

Lol

frozen stratus
#

you may have a chance

low shell
#

But I don’t wanna see him go ) :

fickle oracle
frozen stratus
#

LMFAO

low shell
#

Lol

frozen stratus
#

HAHAHAHA OH MY GOD

#

THIS IS GODLY MAN THIS IS GREAT!!

low shell
#

Lol

frozen stratus
#

OH MY god my night has been made I'm dying

low shell
#

That was insane

#

wOw

frozen stratus
#

THIS IS PROOF!

#

THIS IS PROOF THAT THERE ARE JOJO REFERENCES IN ROR2

fickle oracle
#

hey i mean Dio's Best Friend is called that because his cat's name is Dio and Dio's favorite toy is a teddy bear

#

Cant remember which dev

patent pumice
#

hopoo

quartz saffron
#

Dunkan

frozen stratus
#

time to harass hopoo with that captain image

low shell
#

Oh god

quartz saffron
#

cat got the name from the artist called Dio

low shell
#

Lol

frozen stratus
#

Now we must argue: the rain formerly known as purple is the best song in the OST sorry guys I love this song with a passion

quartz saffron
#

great song

low shell
#

Purple

quartz saffron
#

my vote goes to Köppen as Fuck, though

low shell
#

ok

#

I think it dead

#

Or not?

frozen stratus
#

Rain formerly known as purple still my favorite

#

What's dead?

low shell
#

Lol

#

Oh

#

Apparently there’s lightning strikes in my area

#

Nice

#

If I die then I’m probably going to die

frozen stratus
#

Ur too young to die

frosty terrace
#

lighning strikes irl? if you're in doors nothing to worry

frozen stratus
#

Damn I wish I could draw

#

I want someone to draw me something CryingCarson

frosty terrace
#

I was once running around a lake when a lightning storm formed, I had no fast way home, half way across the lake in both ways 😄 was spooky

frozen stratus
#

JEsus why do you do stuff like that?

#

I want captain role but self roles are broken CryingCarson

frosty terrace
#

it was nice and sunny when I left lol

thorn pilot
#

Whats up with the final boss? I hate it so much hahaha, seems like either you can instantly kill him or you cant kill him at all

frosty terrace
#

he is challenging

#

some survivors handle him easier than others

thorn pilot
#

Compared to risk of rain 1 boss, with golden chests all over, hectic and getting stronger and stronger... the risk of rain 2 boss seems the exact opposite of the reason risk of rain is fun to begin with

#

Besides that... what makes him drop your items back to you? I've taken down to below half health before he started attacking me with my own items before he healed to full and killed me about a minute later - and never dropped an item back to me?

frosty terrace
#

dealing damage to him

frozen stratus
#

he hard boss

thorn pilot
#

Does attacking him before he starts attacking you count towards making him drop items to you?

frozen stratus
#

they're probably going to end up changing him

frosty terrace
#

no you only get items after the suck, but you can kill him during the suck

frozen stratus
#

S u c c

frosty terrace
#

engineer's turrets keep their items as long as you don't remake them during that phase

thorn pilot
#

I hope so :/ I felt really dissapointed with the level as a whole when I first got to the boss

frosty terrace
#

I really liked it

#

I guess I'm easy to please

thorn pilot
#

Hahaha, just compared to the first game I suppose. Have you played through the first game?

frosty terrace
#

yes

#

miner was my love

thorn pilot
#

Hahaha, nice

frozen stratus
#

I never got into miner

#

Mercenary was my main in the first game

thorn pilot
#

I feel like there is such a huge difference between the first and second games on the last level, with keycards, interactivity, interesting different rooms and what not

frosty terrace
#

true, ror2 devs were rushed to finish it I hear

#

it might get changed in the future

frozen stratus
#

They need to change the final stage, they need to actually add more to it.

#

It was just too empty in my opinion.

thorn pilot
#

Im going to keep trying on the final boss - but it doesn't feel like it has the love that it needs

frosty terrace
#

I enjoyed the music and build up the travel provided

frozen stratus
#

^

spark narwhal
#

I figured out how to beat the final phase of the boss

thorn pilot
#

Shoot Good?

frozen stratus
#

loader

spark narwhal
#

no like actually

frozen stratus
#

1 shot him

spark narwhal
#

with any character

#

without 1 shots

frozen stratus
#

pray?

spark narwhal
#

no an actual way

#

when he is taking your items away you shot him a lot

thorn pilot
#

Hahah

frozen stratus
#

thats what I did with captain

#

now I finally have the skin

spark narwhal
#

but before he takes about 70% of your items

#

you run up one of the rams on the side of the arena

#

so you can avoid dodging the blue plasma orbs entirely

#

all and he doesn't come up the ram

frosty terrace
#

yeah ranged characters can just climb on top of those pillars and stuff

spark narwhal
#

not the pillars but the rams

frosty terrace
#

the boss can climb up the ramps

spark narwhal
#

he didn't for me

iron lark
#

i've seen him do a dash and fly up the ramp

spark narwhal
#

are you sure he climbs up the rams?

thorn pilot
#

He definitely has trouble with the ramps, but its not a definite win

frosty terrace
#

yes there's videos of it

spark narwhal
#

at the last phase he doesn't

frosty terrace
#

ramps help though I agree

spark narwhal
#

talking about last phase not the previous 3

thorn pilot
#

Yeah

low shell
#

I like spaghetti

frosty terrace
#

last time I got to the phase 4 was with loader on monsoon...and I was left with like 17 tonic afflictions 😄 I could barely move or attack

frozen stratus
#

I wonder what the characters look like without a helmet.

low shell
#

Disfigured and severely burned

frozen stratus
#

probably not wrong

low shell
#

lol

frozen stratus
#

after what they went through

spark narwhal
#

nah I know the true answer

frozen stratus
#

WHAT IS IT?!

#

I WANNA KNOW!

low shell
#

NANI????!!!??

#

kill me

frozen stratus
#

reveal faces now of characters

thorn pilot
#

How many loops do you guys recommend before final boss?

frozen stratus
#

can be done with just one @thorn pilot

spark narwhal
#

they don't have anything in there suits they are just models in a video game

low shell
#

OH MY GOD

frozen stratus
#

...

low shell
#

REALLY????

frosty terrace
#

usually looping once does the trick

spark narwhal
#

yes

frozen stratus
#

WHAT WOULD THEIR FACES LOOK LIKE IN THEORY THEN?!

frosty terrace
#

you can also take the celestial portal and obliterate

low shell
#

They are all acrid people

spark narwhal
#

I just told you nothing

low shell
#

Doggie faces

#

All of em just poisonous dogs

frozen stratus
#

alrighty I'm going to bed, getting pretty late.

#

You guys have a good night.

low shell
#

Aight see ya

#

You too

frozen stratus
#

Thanks

low shell
#

: D

#

bye

desert rapids
#

Is it okay that I can't use Gorag's Opus?

quartz saffron
#

it doesn't work with captain

#

and another survivor, huntress maybe?

desert rapids
#

Hmm, why it doesn't work with captain?

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Is this bug or something else I didn't consider

quartz saffron
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just a bug

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will get fixed probably soon

desert rapids
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ok thanks

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Maybe I should give a chance to Effigy of Grief

frosty terrace
grim rock
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ive put 30 hours towards the game just trying to defeat mithrix on monsoon to no avail

torn wave
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It took me 58

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Good luck my dude

mossy garden
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it took me a god run on captian with tonic

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got it after like 10 hours or something so was quite lucky

torn wave
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Dang

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Wish it took me 10 hours, (I got a god run and died to a fricking pot)

past yarrow
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a pot?

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lel

torn wave
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Yeah, I got a frost relic and I’m merc

past yarrow
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yikes dude, that's a big rip

desert rapids
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first Eclipse on Commando got me two achievements (Cap included) Hopoo

frosty terrace
desert rapids
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(after 20 or so hours of merciless RNG)

past yarrow
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I got my first Mithrix kill on Monsoon on my third try?

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the first two i got stuck on that stupid island

torn wave
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took me 7 😭

past yarrow
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I got REALLY lucky though

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early game behemoth on commando

torn wave
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See I am a one trick, I can only play merc

past yarrow
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you enjoying the changes to him?

torn wave
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I think

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The regen rate hurts

past yarrow
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i've yet to unlock his alt R unfortunately

torn wave
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It’s not worth it

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I still got it anyway cause it was one of the last achievements left in the logbook

past yarrow
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i know it's stronger now compared to before, but i just want the achievement

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there really is nothing more satisfying than being able to literally ninja something to death

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unless we count 1k+ bleeds on a boss target

torn wave
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Wait did his alt r get buffed?

past yarrow
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so i've heard, i think it applies exposed

torn wave
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I don’t think it’s worth it still

past yarrow
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if that's the case, i could see a strong build with alt R and BA with Purity

torn wave
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Idk, invincibility frames and increasing amount of hits depending on attack speed is too valuable to me

past yarrow
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yeah, merc is a nice character because of the choices he presents

torn wave
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Wait how do you have a merc role

past yarrow
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while also being a high skill cap hero regardless now

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i chose it some time ago

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i cant remember where though

torn wave
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Oof

lapis pendant
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Any tips for beating the game on monsoon? I keep getting my dick kicked in.

torn wave
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Don’t get hit

past yarrow
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uh command or avoid shit really

lapis pendant
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Thanks

torn wave
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Lol

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Use shrine of the mountain on stage 1 if you find it

past yarrow
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seriously though, depends on the character too

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imo best choices are commando or rex

torn wave
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Commando really?

past yarrow
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that might be a personal preference lol

lapis pendant
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I like commando because he goes whoosh

torn wave
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Lol

past yarrow
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if you have his alt utility

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then yeah, he's veeeery strong

lapis pendant
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Honestly I might just cheese the final boss

torn wave
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I solely and exclusively play merc, with the occasional loader

past yarrow
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for your first time? dont cheese it

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it's a genuinely fun fight if you don't just jump into the air for everything

lapis pendant
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Bruh I'm running outta options here

past yarrow
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who do you play?

lapis pendant
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He either claps me on final phase or I get clapped by fire

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Commando, Engi, Acrid, been trying captain from time to time

past yarrow
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Captain is probably a better choice than Commando

torn wave
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See I get horribly unlucky with items so his last phase is never an issue

lapis pendant
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I was thinking hella crowbars, zap Q item and praying for god.

past yarrow
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playing with command or nah?

lapis pendant
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Perhaps

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Might try it with merc

past yarrow
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on my second clear, i used command(o) and absolutely rinsed the fucker

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before he took all my items

lapis pendant
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I was thinking of doing a high bleed build with command and just shredding him with buzz saws on his final phase

past yarrow
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the risk there is that if you dont get him, he will get you

lapis pendant
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Mash Q 7 times and run

torn wave
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on my first clear, i played merc and j ust jumped over his spinny balls and eviscerated him when he was doing his shoot

past yarrow
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i used behemoth with 3 clovers and mostly on hit items

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max crit, a few hats

lapis pendant
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I've beaten the game on normal mode before because I shredded him

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But I can't seem to do it on monsoon

past yarrow
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with enough attack speed and clovers, you can proc enough ATGs to kill him before he takes everything

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because once the ATGs are in the air, no matter what happens, they hit for the full amount

lapis pendant
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ATG?

past yarrow
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those rocket thingos

torn wave
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ATG missle launcher

lapis pendant
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Ah

past yarrow
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^

torn wave
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Green items

past yarrow
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super strong, especially since it procs the bands

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and as commando, you dont really have anything baseline to proc the bands

lapis pendant
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Honestly I give every item a stupid nickname

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Did they nerf the bands?

past yarrow
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imho, they're stronger

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100% chance to proc on a hit that deals 400% or more damage

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10 second cd

lapis pendant
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Odd change

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HOL UP

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Does they still work with deathmark?

past yarrow
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should do if they did before

torn wave
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yes

past yarrow
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ive never used death mark before

lapis pendant
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It's

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Aight tbh

past yarrow
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they feel much better now than before

lapis pendant
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I like the bleed buff

torn wave
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runald's band is a deathmark thing

past yarrow
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especially since kjaro's is so big now

lapis pendant
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"How many layers of bleed do you have?"
"Idk 1 maybe 2?"
"Watch this"
Then the enemy fucking dies of 158 bleed.

torn wave
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very nice when you're merc with an r

past yarrow
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ive been meaning to stack purity on merc and go full bleeds

lapis pendant
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What does purity do?

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Like all I know is it says luck down

torn wave
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it's an anti 57 leaf clover

past yarrow
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reduces all cooldowns by a second or two and reduces your luck

lapis pendant
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Oh. Oh no.

past yarrow
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but 7 daggers is 100% chance

lapis pendant
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But I like my bleed.

past yarrow
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so whats there to anti clover

lapis pendant
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Idk maybe you need more daggers?

torn wave
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everytime a proc has a chance it goes off and it does, it rerolls it

lapis pendant
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What happens if I get like 6 purities? Do I just have no cd?

past yarrow
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probably

torn wave
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you'd have to have the proc chance go 6 times in a row and get all 6

past yarrow
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it'll roll all random effects multiple times but with 100% chance to bleed with daggers

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you're always gonna apply bleeds regardless

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and it seems the cooldowns only go down to .5 seconds

lament widget
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watching the folly of immortality, stuck in the ambry with too much purity, trying to clean the trash of hundreds of loose item drops that we did not care about until we saw the lag; we need but four red command essences to undo the purity and leave

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One frame every two or so seconds

lapis pendant
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yeah?

lament widget
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our folly was misunderstanding, greed, pride.

lapis pendant
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Pick one. Being sent to Brazil when you die or being sent to comedy island

torn wave
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i mean, does purity seem like a good item to y'all? the idea that i have to get a 1/10 chance to go off twice in a row for my atg to go off once doesn't seem like a great thing

lament widget
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the cooldown is nice

supple sierra
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does purity cooldown apply before alien head?

plucky comet
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hey if i have 10 crowbars and 5 focus crystals is the damage 985% or only 675

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basically is it additive or multiplicative

granite shard
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crowbar goes first

supple sierra
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multiplicative i tihnk

granite shard
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so hit
(1 + 0.5*crowbar) for 10 crowbars
then (1 + 0.15*FC) for 5 FC

supple sierra
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yeah

granite shard
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So you have 6.75x damage on that first hit

plucky comet
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so its additive

granite shard
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I think so?

Amount * (1 + 5) = 6
Amount * (1 + 0.15*5) = 10.5

plucky comet
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the only multiplicatives are shaped glass and crits then

granite shard
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Stacks of one item are additive
but they multiply together

5 focus crystals adds 75% damage, that's additive
but crowbars and crystals combine higher than their total % increases because they're multiplicative, if that makes sense

Crit is always x2 and applies after all that stuff
shaped glass is true multiplicative because it doubles a stat every time

warped thicket
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Are there any roadmaps posted from hopoo?

granite shard
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that's how I understand it, anyway

dull ingot
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really hope hopoo gets creative with debuffs on items cos rn death mark is pretty dead (pun not intended)

plucky comet
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wait, that wiki says that "multiply old amount by number of crystals" so its multiplicative after all

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The game begins by creating a copy of the incoming damage amount, let's call this 'amount', whereas we'll call the old damage 'original amount'.

granite shard
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yeah
between items is multiplicative but AFAIK glass is the only item that stacks multiplicatively with itself

plucky comet
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yeah

granite shard
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crystal will add 15% to your crowbar hit, and crit will double those
but each crystal is worth a flat 15%

plucky comet
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so when are the crystals worth more than one crowbar

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i mean when to get crystals instead of crowbars for higher damage

granite shard
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3, i guess?
cause crowbar goes first
crowbar: 1 --> 1.5
crystals: 1.5 --> 2.175

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so only at three crystals are you increasing more than you would by just getting one crowbar
but the more crowbars you have the proportion would change on that

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if you had two crowbars, two crystals would be more than one extra crowbar (30% of 2 is 0.6, > 0.5)

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buuuuut crowbar has better synergies in general with things like capacitor and orbital strike so i'd trade all my crystals for crowbars any day (unless I was playing a melee survivor)

teal sphinx
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quick question, anyone know how useful drones are in the current update?

patent pumice
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all drones and turrets regen health

mild brook
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Useful first loop, garbage after that

patent pumice
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so...id say useful until the final boss

upper token
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can someone explain how the role assignment thing works i tried getting engineer and now im artificer and huntress

patent pumice
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cus they can take the attention of bosses

mild brook
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Lmao

upper token
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i didnt want this.

teal sphinx
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hmmm okay so not too much of a change since before the update huh lol

patent pumice
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how do you try to get 1 and get the others
you have to type the names

upper token
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i did

patent pumice
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how do you

upper token
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i messed up giving myself a role somehow

mild brook
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I mean they didn't change a thing about drones

patent pumice
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you have to type their name so

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that means you typed "huntress" and 'artificer' instead of engi

mild brook
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Lol

fluid river
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from sleeping in the bulwark for 5 hours getting 5 clovers, to the gilded coast for a few minutes with 5 clovers, to the void fields for who knows how long with 40 clovers

frosty terrace
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I'm also in the void with basically the best setup you could have, tesla coil, 2x razorwire and med kit. I step out into the void to take damage and razorwires and tesla annihilate enemies, I step back in and get healed

fluid river
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heh, i'm just here to maximize clovers so i can get logs

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gl to your loadout tho!

frosty terrace
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thanks, I came to void for the items. It's worth the risk on monsoon