500 to 0 to 500 to 0
#gd2-nullified
somber yarrow
ivory depot
and than it remains at 0 for the rest of eternity
dull ingot
idk how 2 get a good commando run without drugs or insane luck
ivory depot
its called human sacrifice
dull ingot
weebs
ivory depot
you fool
dull ingot
kekw weirdchamp
ivory depot
didnt exploit captains infinite red scrap glitch, 0/10
somber yarrow
no more crowns 👍
vivid crown
FINALLY >:D
ivory depot
noice
vivid crown
Honestly anyone who did this without acrid with less than 1 cycles is... very good at the game
green terrace
i did it with proton accumulator
vivid crown
Or that
brisk quiver
Captain with capacitator
vivid crown
When I hit the 4th stage I just jumped onto a ledge and used posion to deal 2k damage/second
highly effective method. Slow, but safe.
brisk quiver
Or just use engi
zinc kernel
uh isn't brittle crown not a good idea on rex you just lose money for using your abilities
vivid crown
yeah its an awful idea
ivory depot
Honestly anyone who did this without acrid with less than 1 cycles is... very good at the game
no loop no artifacts no secret stages no lunars commando monsoon
ivory depot
i got kind of lucky and got 4 reds but they didnt do... too much overall
besides the clover
green terrace
i need to unlock it
Oh yeah i also did it on moonsoon
i think it was either huntress or loader
Captain is definetly the most fun character to play
him with huntress and loader
brisk quiver
Shattering justice captain saved the day
modest talon
do Most of these items work on my engineer turret?
ivory depot
this was my first no loop no artifacts monsoon
brisk quiver
Yes, pretty much all of these items
ivory depot
my first victory was a command monsoon commando run tho
marble verge
oh thought of another lunar item idea
brisk quiver
Exceptions are the rusted key, lepton daisy, squid polyp and 
marble verge
Pure Gem: Immune to all debuffs... BUT you are also immune to buffs.
brisk quiver
To be fair it will make you center your build around certain items
ivory depot
also little discipline, wax quail, sprint drink, aurelionite seed, qqueens gland, and rose buckler
haughty sparrow
what's better the loaders charged gauntlet or the thunder gauntlet?
ivory depot
as mobile turrets cant sprint
indigo wave
Just died to magma worms at the fire cave tunnels and will never underestimate them again. They juggled me into oblivion!
brisk quiver
Worms have gotten much more aggressive
indigo wave
Flat ground makes them seem so easy
ivory depot
they no longer try to murder the drone halfway across the map, i guess that counts as more agressive
indigo wave
Soon as you get into a tight space they go ham
abstract hull
damn, wisps suck
marble verge
on sirens call they used to just chill at the edge of the map and not do anything sometimes
they would just keep circling around the cliff
onyx cipher
I think the upgraded is better for hitting more enemies at once? But the charged gets more powerful the more momentum you have so it’s really a preference Paddy
dense pumice
What are your other items?
ivory depot
what reds do you have?
green terrace
ivory depot
yes
green terrace
Shitty reds
dense pumice
Yup
green terrace
Took nukahunta thingy
ivory depot
dang it wouldve been better if it took vultures but oh well
dense pumice
Print more? 😏
ivory depot
...yeah
dense pumice
just print 4 imo
ivory depot
but daggers tho
green terrace
here i come behemoth
ivory depot
keep 2 probably
green terrace
NO
dense pumice
Definitely get a clover
green terrace
IT TOOK MY DRONES
ivory depot
yeah
ivory depot
f
onyx cipher
F
marble verge
i actually like WoL
*WoV
wake of loltures
The idea is super cool and can be useful but tis just the overloading affix that im so conflicted about
i love the mini-sticky-bombs but replacing half your hp with shields
ivory depot
it does like nothing till you get to the point t2 elites start spawning
glacial - chronobauble
blazing - a dot that you can get from gasoline
overloading - half your health is shield, goodbye osp, but you do get extra damage from bombs ig
celestine is useless and malachite is... pretty good, but by the time youll be getting it it wont really matter
opal plaza
Why? Just why?
fluid river
is p good, but not oft-picked in terms of reds with command since others give more for more of the time
green terrace
yea hthis is definetly a god run
fluid river
oof, good luck getting that
opal plaza
I actually could have used those
marble verge
Epic
green terrace
Shit i missclicked and lost my dagger
ivory depot
f
green terrace
fuck it i'm good enough anyway
dense pumice
Have you recycled it or just took a third meat hook?
opal plaza
Well I guess this run was done for anyways, i got wisp place instead of the rally point
opal plaza
I prefer having the thing because of its damage
ivory depot
think its worth it sacrificing the bleed for 100% crit chance?
dense pumice
no
ivory depot
yeah thats what i thought
dense pumice
9 glasses is perfect. If you find Instincts and a Scythe, you'll get 100% anyway
ivory depot
yeah but idk if ill get that lel
but yeah 90% is good enough
the bleed is good anyways
viscid estuary
sometimes you gotta trust the game to do what it gotta do
ivory depot
i dont trust the game
viscid estuary
some of my best runs are just me literally asking the game to give me shit and its kinda just meant to be
viscid estuary
same
shy portal
10% crit chance is mostly just the same as 10% damage, unless you get a shattespleen then HOO-
ivory depot
yeah exactly lel
viscid estuary
lmaoooo yeah bro gotta get that beacon i dealt with that type of luck ez
viscid estuary
game gives game taketh away
ivory depot
oh god what if i get a shatterspleen
shy portal
it'll happen
ivory depot
yknow what this is good too
viscid estuary
ye def important
ivory depot
yeah feathers are godtier for mith
shy portal
BTW can confirm that the Engi's carbonizer turrets are extremely good with the new bleed too
not sure how they weigh up vs Captain & MUL-T's nailgun tho
probably worse because they are stupid and die
green terrace
ARE YOU JOKING?
shy portal
but the damage is good enough its a worthy alternative to the bungus
ivory depot
hehe overloading worms deal stupid amounts of contact damage
shy portal
rip
green terrace
this stupid overloading worm KILLED ME 3 TIMES IN A ROW
viscid estuary
ah shoulda showed dio's
green terrace
each time i was on a god run and he just came and touched me
shy portal
tfw no Blazing Worm
ivory depot
back in my day
its a reference to how in ror1 if a magma worm was overloading it was the most deadly creature alive
viscid estuary
fantastic
opal plaza
My god I have never been assaulted by so many wisps before, there was like 10 wisps with a good amount of fire ones
I spawn the boss then just loose all of my health in one hit because of the army behind me
thin yoke
is anyone else experiencing lagspikes when playing the mercenary, specifically when using his utility since they've done the hotfix after 1.0 release?
opal plaza
I may not use mercenary much but I haven't expected any abnormal lag
marble verge
mithrix's last phase needs a tone down
opal plaza
Why? It's rather easy
marble verge
without any move speed boosts you can't really dodge the attack
of his visions of heresy
opal plaza
Ohhh
green terrace
the worst is that i insta killed both of the overloading worms
but they somehow managed to kill me
when i was full topaz broach
marble verge
the blue balls are simple enough to dodge but his vision of heresy attack tracks so fast and probably has crit, bleed, etc. on it
opal plaza
Where he has lines that hit?
wheat pendant
so is it actually a common opinion that mercenary's weaker after the changes?
opal plaza
Oh
marble verge
he uses a visions of heresy like attack that tracks really fast, has really fast projectiles, and probably has ungodly amounts of on-hits and stuff on it thx to item steal
i think it'd be more fair if he destroyed your items instead of taking them
opal plaza
I've never seen it, I usually kill him too fast
marble verge
well yeah but im trying to unlock purity
viscid estuary
the orbs are the real issue
marble verge
its on monsoon
viscid estuary
for me personally
marble verge
i think he should destroy all your items during phase 4, and then you have to escape the moon with no items
ivory depot
i have to do it
marble verge
void reaver attacks are so easy to dodge
opal plaza
Sorta
marble verge
and the lines that spawn usually spawn ahead of you
ivory depot
the issue is that some characters (captain and engi) cant escape itemless
marble verge
so its a simple stop and go
opal plaza
But your mobility sucks
marble verge
make the timer 5 minutes
opal plaza
Yeah
viscid estuary
it kinda doesnt make sense to get that powerful the whole game and then get rid of it completely
marble verge
then why does phase 4 make sense
opal plaza
That and taking back your items its satisfying
viscid estuary
yeah taking it back is the nice part
marble verge
true, but having the items to himself is a death sentence on monsoon no matter how fast you go
ivory depot
its supposed to be more cinematic than anything, losing everything only to take it back to take him down but they broke it. a good fix is you lose the items, but he cant use them.
the rest could proceed the same
marble verge
yeah
viscid estuary
or he should like
marble verge
you know the black hole hhe appears from?
marble verge
he should steal items and throw them in there, and they gradually spit out during dmg
opal plaza
Also can I just say thank god he doesnt use the items
viscid estuary
huh?
opal plaza
I mean the items dont give him the buffs
viscid estuary
ok imagine he makes creatures in front of you using your items and you kill them to get them back
dense pumice
? they do
viscid estuary
lmao huh thats the point
ivory depot
he can heal
opal plaza
I mean how did he not activate any of them
ivory depot
he can inflict bleed
i would know...
viscid estuary
lmaooooo i feel that
ivory depot
i did, in fact, survive, but only barely
viscid estuary
yeaaaah i never do
ivory depot
so it gives me
near max crit chance
than it gives me
scythe
THAN IT GIVES ME
AEGIS
viscid estuary
the worst part is melee characters are pretty terrible if you cant do enough damage when hes stealing your items
opal plaza
Aside from acrid, Mercenary can be invincible and Loader can hit him well staying away
I have yet to do much on acrid but he does have some range at least
ivory depot
loader is the worst of them tbh
merc gets iframes, acrid gets dot and range
loader? you get.. mobility? but that wont help if you hit him and he does the orb attack on your face
opal plaza
I mean, he can scale the pillars to stay safe
ivory depot
yeah but hiding doesnt deal damage
opal plaza
I dont know much about loader so I cant say much
On the topic of mobility, can I just say i love Captain but I hate his lack of mobility
ivory depot
yeah
opal plaza
Like, the void realm is practically suicide and the escape is near impossible without some mobility items
slate crown
Hey, how do you go about enabling a more than 4 player game?
opal plaza
I think only mods can do that
weak patrol
Loader is like the easiest melee character for mithrix
slate crown
Mods are fine, i just want to find something telling me how to do that
dense pumice
Mods or complicated dedicated server stuff
weak patrol
Considering she already has the best base mobility, she does fine in phase 4 dodging mithrix's attacks
ivory depot
phase 4 isnt the issue
ivory depot
ive never really struggled on phase 4 on any character
its the part where you go down and hit him in phase 3, he strips you of your osp, than you get hit by a chimera
maybe im just unlucky
weak patrol
I have never had a problem in phase 3
ivory depot
maybe its just my refusal to loop lel
weak patrol
I didn't loop either
Phase 4 for most characters is kill him before he finishes stealing your items or you lose
Since if you lack mobility your basically guaranteed to get 1 shot
ivory depot
ive never struggled phase 4, honestly.
dense pumice
I'm with zarklord on this. No looping, usually can get through the first 3 phases somewhat reasonably, but phase 4 always kills me
ivory depot
well what do you know
weak patrol
Lol
I also don't like in phase 4 you can't truly prepare, since anything that might save you like dio, he will take
ivory depot
phase 4 isnt intended to be the hardest but they broke it because they didnt realize that bleed and atgs HURT A LOT
white bane
i had a run on acrid where i got him 1/4 hp final stage and it never gave me back any of my items
ivory depot
yeah poison for some reason never counts
white bane
i think its a glitch that acrid poison doesnt give you items back
weak patrol
I know you get items back as you hurt him, but still doesn't help at the beginning of the fight
opal plaza
Well that's annoying, i was dodging some blast balls and then a wisp blast be back getting me killed
white bane
anyone wanna do a run
im tryna beat the final boss on monsoon but i stg i get so unlucky at that fourth stage
i just want the acrid skin
long fern
can't you just loop and sacrifice yourself for it?
long fern
lol
opal plaza
I would help but I'm still not that good
long fern
I was trying to beat the final boss as loader but it seems a bit... sadistic for melee characters
opal plaza
Best monsoon run I got so far is 4th stage
Died to a stupid brass contraption bonkin game in the back of the head
long fern
Best monsoon run I got so far is 4th stage
how fast are you running?
white bane
i always get to at least 4th stage on monsoon
but those balls he shoots out always one shot me
opal plaza
I cant remember how long I took from 3-4th but I got the 10 mintue chest on stage 3
chrome hedge
Consider hiding on the ramps. Balls can't reach you there. You can also duck for cover from his minigun attack there, too.
white bane
ohh thats so good
yeah i panicked because i was on acrid and i wasnt getting my items back
so i was like wtf do i do bessides run
and mid thought he slapped me
i also had 16 goat hoofs that game so it was hard to outrun him
chrome hedge
@white bane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWxsE8rG8dM
long fern
I cant remember how long I took from 3-4th but I got the 10 mintue chest on stage 3
hmm, if you're getting that (around 8-9 min to the 3rd stage) then your time is fine, I guess its up to the item luck then
chrome hedge
This pretty much shows how the ramp helps you.
plucky ether
are my friends and I just bad, or is beating Mithrix's 4th phase in a four-player game with four players' worth of items nigh impossible?
long fern
are my friends and I just bad, or is beating Mithrix's 4th phase in a four-player game with four players' worth of items nigh impossible?
from what I hear at that point his attacks one shot anyone
chrome hedge
Mithrix is tough in multiplayer, since if he picks any of you off the others have to pick up the slack.
opal plaza
It greatly depends on the teleporter and stage, sometimes I barely make it, sometimes ingot like 2 mintues left
Sometimes the teleporter is just no where to be found
chrome hedge
It has a tendency to all go to shit when he kills any of you. 
opal plaza
If it's the swamp then my luck could be horrible
chrome hedge
Final boss is not a teleporter event.
chrome hedge
Is it lame? Sure. Is it also exactly as described? Yes.
long fern
he would probably die in a few second anyway
opal plaza
Well, should I do a void relm fight?
chrome hedge
Plus... you probably don't want him summoning Aurelionite on you during the item steal phase.
long fern
Well, should I do a void relm fight?
if you can, yes, free items with no time cost (as far as I remember)
opal plaza
Yes but remember, I'm Captain
long fern
I have not unlocked him yet so I have nothing to remember
chrome hedge
Void Realms is still perfectly doable with Captain. 90% of his power is in his busted M1.
gritty bluff
whats deaths mark max stack and which items proc it
opal plaza
Yes but actually going from vent to vent is the problem
chrome hedge
gritty bluff
thanks
chrome hedge
Going from vent to vent is the same problem any low mobility survivor will have. Just don't be greedy and take the time you need to regen health.
opal plaza
Yeah
chrome hedge
Early Void Fields is pretty much essential on Eclipse for the boost in items.
opal plaza
Nice
ivory depot
i mean its just gg for me lel
chrome hedge
that ain't Eclipse 👀
opal plaza
It doesn't give anything and I'd like to keep my sanity so i won't either
chrome hedge
sanity is overrated
ivory depot
see if i want to challenge myself ill just do stupid stuff like lunar items only
ill waste my sanity on that
chrome hedge
I'm just an Eclipse 1 baby for now:
opal plaza
I'd rather waste sanity on modding even though I dont know how to mod
leaden light
10% dmg of their total hp over time, ofc it's great
long fern
hmmm, maybe it would work with just having movement speed and waiting for the boss to tic down
slate crown
Does anyone have a guide on how to set up a Risk of Rain 2 Dedicated server?
restive oar
Do i need to complete primordial teleporter before i can start looping levels again?
chrome hedge
That needs to be done before you activate the teleporter, btw. Interact with the outer prongs first.
opal plaza
Or just go into the rune fight
tranquil hinge
||gotta love when the final boss steals your robot passive from captain so now he insta deletes 90% of projectiles making it infinitely harder to kill him||
obtuse wedge
does dying to final boss on monsoon count for skins?
opal plaza
No
analog lintel
my eclipse 5 run just got wrecked cause I forgot to scrap my will o wisp and mith killed me by killing 1 of my drones nearby
echo iris
oof
analog lintel
I already scrapped 26 green items to avoid that happening but I forgot about the wills
9 reds too
echo iris
oh my
analog lintel
yeah I hate the design
echo iris
you poor soul
analog lintel
echo iris
have you tried preoning or royal capcitering him while he suks yo items?
analog lintel
thats exactly what I did
literally the first and only shots he fired killed my stupid drone
dull ingot
Do modded characters have a "default message" when beating the game or does the dev have to add one manually? 
echo iris
i would assume the devs of the mods would
dull ingot
ah thats cool, beat the game with the clay templar and it said "And so it left, hoping to find purpose" wich was really bittersweet
pine iris
if you get Captain on a Metamorphasis run, do you keep the Microbot?
static turtle
imma try acrid again, what items should i mainly go for
frozen tendon
help
analog lintel
how
analog lintel
looks like a bug, report in #ror2-bug-reports-pc
opal plaza
Maybe try running near the edge to re activate him?
analog lintel
yeah try walking over the trigger area a few times
gilded lagoon
is the captain the host?
dull ingot
shoot it 
gilded lagoon
if so leave then reconnect it will start you at the beg of the map
deft breach
is anyone else getting a bug online where their projectiles bounce off walls?
dull ingot
that sounds fun as fuck
deft breach
its not because they bounce off enemies and they just dont hit
frozen tendon
but he got out of the area
deft breach
im not the host in these situations
analog lintel
I assumed it was purely visual
deft breach
its not because my acrid projectiles bounce off or get stuck on enemies
zenith lake
Anyone knows what's Mithrix ID for cheat engine ?
modest talon
what kind of legendary items are good on engineer (red ones)
kind grail
ahhh i need rant chat or something. 500hp left on mitrix
modest talon
can i buy the clover?
dense pumice
Clover is good on everyone
If you have stationary turrets and fungus, N'Kuhana, Rack and Aegis are all really strong
west bolt
1.0 in a nutshell
west bolt
i never had it drop yet
frozen tendon
does anyone know a console command to spawn the boss on the final stage?
west bolt
only got it with command yet
imps never wanna give it to me
analog lintel
the list of items you have to scrap for mith fight is too damn high
west bolt
honestly, mith only killed me once because of my items and i dont really prepare
and it was a hilarious death lmao
he got my ukulele, and uh, i had drones lmao
- clovers
analog lintel
I just got fucked cause he will o wispd me with a drone
I scrapped 27 other greens and 9 other reds but I forgot about the wills
and thats what did me in
west bolt
if you have that many items, couldnt you just one hit his phase 4 usually?
analog lintel
I hit him with around 8 cap charges
echo iris
yes
analog lintel
he was literally a few hundred hp
safe vapor
Oof
analog lintel
but the only shot he fired hit my drone and killed me
i should have also scrapped my atgs so there were really 2 ways I couldve died
opal plaza
Ok, one thing I don't understand is what's the benefit to to scrapping them
shrewd knoll
they’re prioritised when using printers and cauldrons
modest talon
@dense pumice
why is this https://riskofrain.fandom.com/wiki/N'kuhana's_Opinion good on engineer all it does is heal?
healing wont help me kill
viscid estuary
nah
west bolt
nkuhana opininion does dmg when you heal enough
opal plaza
Healing will help you kill, if you die you cant kill now can you?
viscid estuary
it attacks if you heal basically
dense pumice
First of all, why the hell would you use the ror1 wiki for ror2 stuff
viscid estuary
lmao
west bolt
and since engineer wants lots of heals for his turrets, like fungus, it can do really good damage
use this one, best one by far https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/?utm_source=Fandom&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=riskofrain2
modest talon
ic
N'kuhana's Opinion is Rare item introduced in Risk of Rain 2. The item causes healing to stockpile Soul Energy and release it as homing, flaming skulls when enough is gathered. Every 10% of total life causes a skull to fire, dealing 250% of the healing as damage(for example, having 500 max life, the skull is launched every 50hp healed, dealing 125 damage).
so my turrets will shoot out crap ?
dense pumice
If you have fungus, yes
modest talon
can anyone else use that combo?
dense pumice
Theoretically yes, but for most characters staying in a stationary position for fungus to activate is very risky
west bolt
its just not as effective as on engi
primal sapphire
ive seen rex make use of the skull shooters
dense pumice
N'Kuhana's Opínion itself can be used to great effect on other characters without the fungus synergy tho
Yeah, Rex in particular
west bolt
its almost as if the turrets get a second barrel
lol
modest talon
tore 100% (+100% per stack) of healing as Soul Energy. After your Soul Energy reaches 10% of your maximum health, fire a skull that deals 250% of your Soul Energy as damage.
so do i fire it out or do my turrets?
dense pumice
Turrets
modest talon
ok ty i will give it a try
west bolt
you and the turrets
dense pumice
^
modest talon
is engineer good late game? or does poop damage
dense pumice
Anywhere from one up to like 50
west bolt
early game its just important that you get atleast one
steel flame
does anyone know the criteria for final boss last phase to give back items? I got him down to about half (although he did have my transcendence) and only got 2 back
is it possible rarity effects it?
modest talon
how do i stop dying as engineer late game i keep getting one shot at stage 7/8
idle copper
get speed
steel flame
never stand still
idle copper
first off you technically can't get one shot
steel flame
no matter how much fungus you have, something will shotgun you
idle copper
well, unless you have glass
modest talon
can i get infusion on engineer?
steel flame
its not worth it unless you are actually killing enemies, and not your turrets
long fern
how do i stop dying as engineer late game i keep getting one shot at stage 7/8
if you have stationary turrets then you have to try for N'kuhanas opinion on stage 4, it is a must, also if you dont get fungus then you will eventually just disintegrate
modest talon
do i get a garenteed red item?
steel flame
I'd say do that on just about every character
steel flame
but it depends on if you have the time to grind or the damage to kill alloy worship
long fern
lot of survivors can choose to not go for the red item on stage 4 but engie has no such option, the chance for N'kuhanas opinion is just a must have, if you dont get it but have decent items then go to the void fields, they can be risky but you have to try if you want to survive late game as engi
terse herald
there's the alloy on Siren's and the chest on Abyssal
so no matter what you get you can try for n'kuhanas
steel flame
aegis is also very good for engi
modest talon
should I get clover?
long fern
so no matter what you get you can try for n'kuhanas
I agree but alloy is suicide on engie if you dont have decent items
steel flame
clover is just good on most builds, turrets just extrapolate that
long fern
should I get clover?
N'kuharas opinion is much better combined with fungus
steel flame
oh wait are we talking command?
long fern
healing rack is great after that
then afterburner
but yeah, if you dont get N'kuharas opinion then you are screwed as late game engi
gritty bluff
i have a lore question
echo iris
shoot
echo iris
lol
steel flame
fire
gritty bluff
is aurelionite mithrixs guardian attempt, like the wurms to providence?
"Brother, what is this...? Why is it misshapen and weak? Was there an error in my design?
Guardian. Come to me. Allow me to see your construction.
...
So I see.
These are not the correct ratios.
This is no minor error, Brother. You have purposefully deviated from the design. For what purpose have you done this? You cannot weave a construct from such an abundance of soul. You know it is too unstable - that it is too unpredictable and too frail. I have told you this, and yet you have wasted the materials I have gathered - and exhausted your own strength to fabricate this miscreation.
To what benefit?
At its best, it can be no more than an inferior servant; it is deficient in the compounds that were to give it fortitude and strength. At its worst, it will betray us.
You have created the first being of this world which threatens us. We cannot keep it here. Attempting to destroy it will risk its retaliation... I will prepare one of the vaults for it to be sealed away, while it is still young and naive.
What a foolish mistake you have made, brother.
I expect you to return the design to me. I cannot allow you to build another construct with so much power - and with such little control. I will build the rest of our guardians; by my hand, they will be weak, but at least they will be loyal.
Go home. I will deal with this creature. We can discuss a better project for you when I return."
echo iris
aurelionite was a failed construct that was accidentily given sentience by having to much soul as an ingrediant
gritty bluff
but it sounds like its supposed to be the brothers guardian
and the only guardian i can think of is the wurms
languid yarrow
I thought Providence was the one who created it
gritty bluff
it could be
steel flame
its a bit hard to tell since both refer to each other as "brother"
languid yarrow
He seems much more of a realized person than Mithrix does
long fern
||and then it comes to light that we don't know shit||
steel flame
I think its prov who created aurelionite, and mithrix created the chimera
final boss of RoR1 and mithrix's brother
and the devs have confirmed RoR2 takes place after 1 and that prov is dead
long fern
~~ the miner is somewhere out there, on the planet ~~
steel flame
I think we all hope that all the RoR1 characters will be (officially) ported to RoR2...
echo iris
honestly i just want enforcer
long fern
honestly i just want enforcer
yeee, enforcer best boy right after engi
steel flame
I think all the ones that aren't in RoR2 yet are hard to transfer over
bandit excluded
long fern
I think we all hope that all the RoR1 characters will be (officially) ported to RoR2...
idk about HAN-D
gritty bluff
c h e f 
echo iris
snoiper
gritty bluff
steel flame
reminder that HAN-D, Bandit, and Sniper have files in the game, mostly just placeholders from RoR1
wraith thunder
I'm so glad I got loader in, they were definitely my favorite in ror1 so super cool to get them back
gritty bluff
wh
steel flame
yeah
deft breach
found out that merc doesnt work in multiplayer
ivory depot
ok so like i died of bleed and than almost died of sadness but than i remembered i had two dios
deft breach
his exposed debuff doesnt reduce cooldowns online :^)
steel flame
are you sure you're the one actually hitting the enemies with it? I think anyone can trigger it
ivory depot
also wait what he just gave me two microbots back i only have one
ivory depot
huh.
steel flame
projectiles bouncing off, final boss hud not showing up, and now this
echo iris
lol
long fern
ancient scepter
||gib turret mk2 reeeeeeeeeee||
steel flame
gib super flamethrower
echo iris
dude a flame turret would be sick
steel flame
I just meant artif, but thats a good idea
echo iris
oh
steel flame
I already suggested an anti air turret this morning
echo iris
hmmmm
long fern
if there should be a new engi ability then it should be an alt fire on m1
ivory depot
and thats captain no loop no artifacts no secret stages no lunars on monsoon
steel flame
prioritizes and does slightly extra damage. I think I suggested that they shoot 4 damage at 150% damage by default? I left air enemy damage to devs
long fern
and thats captain no loop no artifacts no secret stages no lunars on monsoon
did you clear out the stages fully? it sure looks like it
ivory depot
yeah pretty much lel
i also used the captain microbot to get two red scraps which i turned into dios stage 5
long fern
oh btw, I wanted to ask, can you just spam void fields after every stage for a free red?
echo iris
or what beacons?
ivory depot
heal + hack
echo iris
@long fern nope
ivory depot
no, you can only do one void per run
echo iris
same i also do heal and hack
ivory depot
once you go in, if you leave or suceed, you can never go in again till the next run
long fern
no, you can only do one void per run
yeah, I guess it seemed too good if I could get the second H3AD-5T or a wake of vultures... seriously why are they red? they are trash in most cases
echo iris
wake can be ok later stages
supple widget
you can spam fire level with the bazaar for free reds if you're a captain with hack on his kit though
steel flame
h3ad-5t is weird after the update
they said its what, 1000-10000% damage? I feel like its closer to 100-1000%
safe vapor
his exposed debuff doesnt reduce cooldowns online :^)
@deft breach if true that's bad..
deft breach
tis ture
safe vapor
Definitely put that in bug reports
gritty bluff
any tips for not dying after the first loop even with a shit ton of items
elder cloud
git gud
long fern
any tips for not dying after the first loop even with a shit ton of items
what are you times?
gritty bluff
i wish i could check past runs but
steel flame
what difficulty do you play?
gritty bluff
i think it was like min 45 monsoon with command, i ran commando and died at stage 9?
steel flame
generally I find on monsoon you want to loop by around 20 mins, probably more lenient on rainstorm
gritty bluff
thing is
steel flame
3.5 mins is usually good for first tele
gritty bluff
i want commandos unlocks right
long fern
i think it was like min 45 monsoon with command, i ran commando and died at stage 9?
if you go command then you have to remember the less flashy survival items
gritty bluff
i could do the 20 stage thingie on drizzle
steel flame
yeah that one's brutal, have yet to get it
echo iris
ooof
long fern
look, if you want to just get mastery, do command crit build but dont forget the bears (around 10 is alright, put them to 20 when you finish getting 10 attack speed boosts and 9 lens maker glasses), also pick at least 1 infusion, it does help a lot
as for greens, aside from the obvious attack increases, pick deathmark combined with chronobauble, bleed dagger, 4th stage shattering justice and both Bands (you will be stacking those anyway probably)
kindred schooner
You'll def meet an overloading worm even on drizzle before stage 20
long fern
if you get a yellow item from a boss then pick either Molten Perforator for damage or Urn for not getting killed
long fern
I guess, if you want to get more consistent death mark then I would probably go for either of those two
but hey, I didnt try a bleed build yet so idk
modest talon
holy whoever said this build IS A GENIUSSS
omfg im a tank who stands still and watches the world burn lol
kindred schooner
Bleed as commando is big boi death
Stacks in no time and ticks for thousands of dmg at any distance
long fern
wait a fucking second, dagger is a linear stack?!
yeah alright I can see how this can be broken
shy portal
MUL-T nailgun
modest talon
HOLY
echo iris
what?
primal sapphire
heal rack?
opal plaza
God I hate the voids air or whatever it is, even at almost full health I barely make it as captain
Health regeneration is so slow on monsoon, I'm still healing
supple widget
God I hate the voids air or whatever it is, even at almost full health I barely make it as captain
@opal plaza oh yeah, captain on voids SUCKS if you dont have something like fungus
opal plaza
Yeah, I'm currently healing again
supple widget
it also sucks because you cant use your healing beacon
kindred schooner
Probably best to visit void after stage 3 when you almost guaranteed got smth to heal
opal plaza
I got it stage 1
supple widget
so you literally have to not take damage during the waves in order to survive going to the next void cell
opal plaza
It was going to be a throw away run
Also my god why poison and the dice?
The buffaloes??? They can be an enemy in it???
kindred schooner
Practically anything can
opal plaza
Wait
modest talon
how do i scrap items
kindred schooner
Indeed, although it's for later stages
fringe flower
scrappers only in no command games
opal plaza
I did find it in earlier stages
kindred schooner
Early on you won't have enough difficulty to get a miniboss
fringe flower
and sacrifice too
modest talon
srapper on all levels?
kindred schooner
Well, stone golems may appear, but they are cuties
modest talon
i think i fked up guys big time how badly on a scale 1 to 10 i got that item
kindred schooner
until given 5 syringes
fringe flower
@modest talon can't get rid of lunar items
modest talon
is the item i got making me weaker?
fringe flower
hold tab and hover over it
modest talon
this is what it says
honest hawk
I think it's acceptable on engi tbh
fringe flower
well its all up to personal preference
modest talon
its not bad?
opal plaza
If I'm correct it's best on engi
plucky widget
i just dont get them
opal plaza
Huh?
winged briar
he is dead
opal plaza
Oh god the vultures too
supple yew
hes just plastered on the wall
winged briar
i rly like the beetle on the left
fringe flower
i agree jack from the hit game cavestory
ocean creek
why is there no eclipse mode chat 😦 anyone got some eclipse specific tips?
e.g. strat to get items back from mithrix?
i tried crowdfunder but it wasnt fast enough
modest void
So I've been away from this game for awhile and I have to ask - when did ancient wisps come back?
opal plaza
No clue
idle copper
they... never came back?
modest void
I legit got spooked when I spawned in and the first thing I see is a crapton of lines
idle copper
where did you find them
modest void
wait a sec then what the heck
idle copper
i know ancient wisps are in the files but i don't think ancient wisps are implemented
modest void
I think my eyes are just playing tricks on me
idle copper
what do those lines look like
modest void
might have just been a void reaver
idle copper
oh probably
visual swift
can i change character mid run? i was trying to get the rallypoint delta huntress achievement, then got swapped to merc and cant go back :(
opal plaza
You swapped to mercenary?
languid yarrow
languid yarrow
lol
no
unless you loop around and do the artifact again and pray
it's a 1/9 chance 
visual swift
of course now i get rallypoint delta
opal plaza
Well, apparently you cant do void realm twise
lyric oak
Yeah, been that way since it was introduced.
lyric oak
Makes sense. Since it's fine for single playthrough, it's kinda risky but gives good items. But also takes time.
opal plaza
I never knew
lyric oak
So if it was repeatable, people would just keep doing it for reds and greens, making runs insanely samey.
opal plaza
But hey, the run is going decent
chrome hedge
Doing early Void Fields each time to supplement your Monsoon/Eclipse plays is already samey enough.
lyric oak
Play with Sacrifice, and then never leave the void.
white bane
FUCK YEAH MONSOON MITH DONE
strong charm
can u obliterate yourself only on stage 8?
opal plaza
Uhhh- you guys know alloy? (I cant remember his name, the secret boss of stage 4)
Can they naturally spawn in groups of 3?
visual swift
yeah
lyric oak
That's the regular boss variant.
lyric oak
Anyway LilMarsrius, you can do it every time the Celestial Portal appears.
visual swift
lyric oak
It'll keep coming up in third stage on each loop.
wraith thunder
hey did they ever fix the acrid auto attack thing where you cancel it with sprint?
opal crow
i was thinking about run with mercenary. What should I focus?
visual swift
Cd reduction and movement speed
lyric oak
It's still possible Tahm, but Acrid now gets a health regen buff if you complete his combo.
supple widget
void fields is so boring tho
lyric oak
I like it.
supple widget
you literally only stand in the circle and maybe shoot at some guys 9 times
visual swift
doing the random survivor artifact didnt swap me back to huntress
lyric oak
It's fun if you go there bit later and get decent mobs.
visual swift
what the fuck, i just wanted an achievement. at least swap you back to your main survivor after getting the goddamn artifact
opal crow
why movment speed for mercenary?
lyric oak
And if you play with four people to actually get lots of the mobs.
visual swift
one of the literal discord moderators dtold me to keep retrying the computer
and i had 1/9 chance to get back to huntress
visual swift
id rather get frozen and die than deal with this stupid shit
opal plaza
Well, this is my best run
Man, only 2 more stages and I would have gotten the mastery skin
Stupid ice enemies
chrome hedge
might as well fight Mithrix and get some more Lunar Coins out of the deal
opal plaza
Nah, I would instantly die
visual swift
im almost 400 minutes into this run
opal plaza
Nice
visual swift
only for it to be RUINED BY AN ARTIFACT
the whole point of this run was for the huntress rallypoint delta achievement
and now im stuck with merc
lyric oak
...If you started a run with certain thing in mind, why did you activate artifact that can fuck everything up?
visual swift
cause i didnt know it would fuck everything up. i thought i would just get the artifact and carry on
lyric oak
Instakill.
modest talon
WTF?
gaunt fox
Just don't get hit
lyric oak
You'll get detained into the void.
Good news is that the explosions have friendly fire.
So you could take out Overloading Magma Worm with single Void Reaver explosion.
broken ginkgo
visual swift
should i quit and retry?
broken ginkgo
@polar anvil
opal plaza
I'm just going to go draw
polar anvil
@broken ginkgo
No
No
lyric oak
I think that'd be your best bet, Hmmm.
visual swift
just hit 400 stacks of bleed on a scavenger
62.4k health
253 personal shield gens
I obliterated... 2.4bil damage done
389 minutes
is there a way to go beyond sky meadow without doing a stupid artifact or ending on the moon?
safe vapor
interact with the prongs on the stage 5 tele... will loop you
lyric oak
Yeah, recalibrate the teleporter.
safe vapor
before you activate it
lyric oak
Alternatively, activate the shop and use blue portal.
sick briar
like what
gray rose
just in the menu like that
sick briar
oh
gray rose
i cant unpause it
sick briar
interesting. I've never had that happen before so I'm not sure.
sick briar
have you tried using alt+tab to highlight the game window?
your computer might just not be interacting with the window
balmy rose
TIL that mythrix can't be shocked by the captain. I took the shocking beacon thinking it would :v
Also mythrix on 2nd loop and onwards looks like a nightmare to kill phase 4
lyric oak
You basically need to nuke him as fast as possible.
balmy rose
You can't, he has too much hp
lyric oak
Yes you can.
visual swift
you can with right items
lyric oak
Have all four people in party immediately focus him with everything.
Every time I've fought him after looping we either immediately killed him, or he killed us very quickly on fourth phase.
balmy rose
Not that helpful when playing alone :p
lyric oak
Just get bunch of crowbars and Royal Onehitter.
balmy rose
Thing is now i just hesitate to pick some items because of phase 4. Things like bkeed, slow, or tesla
white bane
what does the calm item do
balmy rose
Last 5 games i has like 1 royal capacitor and not even 5 crowbars
white bane
i see it in a lunar shop but idk what it do
lyric oak
The Calm item?
balmy rose
Purity? Resuces all cooldows by 2 seconds but you are unlucky
white bane
the spikey ball
balmy rose
Unluck means clover effect but you get the worst effect
white bane
you get it from beating mith on monssoon
lyric oak
Yeah, what Chfou said.
balmy rose
So if you dont intent to proc on hit effects you can go for it
white bane
oh ok
balmy rose
It's a lunar item, it's both good and bad depending on the situation
That's mostly why i never take them
balmy rose
I'd think so
lyric oak
They only go down to 0.5sec.
white bane
still crazy
lyric oak
Every stack after first one drops CD by just one second.
But yeah, I agree Chfou. I understand that having a final boss to look forward to means that some items like Happiest Mask or other stuff wouldn't really be useful or good for fight against a single strong enemy.
But that shouldn't mean having to gimp your build because you worry that final boss will just destroy you with your own items.
pulsar loom
Died to a void reaver after beating the big man
balmy rose
Damn
pulsar loom
I am, livid
lyric oak
Oh man, that sucks ass. It almost happened to me on my first Monsoon clear.
balmy rose
My bane on the map are his orbs that seems to have a 100% chance to proc bleed even if i only gave him 1 tri tip dagger
And also that orbs just put me at 20 hp just enough for the bleed to kill me
Also i'd say that the acrid would be the most suited to kill phase 4 due to his poison
Also has anyone tried phase 4 with engi? Does mythrix also steal your turrets items?
And does dio work on mythrix himself?
swift harbor
Are those all keys
safe vapor
@balmy rose he does not steal the turrets items, engie can basically cheese it
balmy rose
Lol nice
safe vapor
not sure if he uses dios..
obtuse wedge
imagine havin like 5 shatterslpeen stolen
balmy rose
Also is the cauldron and scrap interaction a bug?
fluid river
those are all command essence
yes
balmy rose
Image having a tesla and razorwire stolen when you play a melee character
balmy rose
Good thing acrid has infect
obtuse wedge
cuse my tri tip dagger stacks are sus
balmy rose
For phase 4 you need to focus more on dodging
I dont think health regen items except medkit can be used by him so
obtuse wedge
tries to run on no hooves captain
balmy rose
Oof
obtuse wedge
while mithrix has my tar
fluid river
if you land it directly on him it'll deal a small burst of damage
modest talon
that was fun
hollow plinth
how do i get the 2 orb yellow items
radiant widget
After 260 hours, slowly starting to be more and more convinced that cleansing pools don't actually exist and are an elaborate prank
fluid river
if you have command they don't exist at all, just like scrappers and 3d printers
also cleanup complete
i'm ready to nuke Mithrix
radiant widget
I haven't been using command for a good while now specifically because the pearls are the only items I'm missing.
fluid river
hmmm yeah that's probably what i'm missing in the yellow section too....
i still need to scrap a red, get the probes.... pearls.... something in the yellow/red section.... and that's it
and of course, monster logs
radiant widget
I can accept that I'll eventually get the boss logs I need because I go to Siren's Call a lot and will probably fight Mithrix a lot, but. The pearls are ACTUALLY bugging me because I literally have never seen a cleansing pool.
fluid river
i'm considering sleeping again to see if i can get loads more items so i can pool 'em for 57 leaf clovers
oof, i've seen a few
radiant widget
Also, getting the probes log and red scrap is pretty easy if you just turn on Vengeance, kill your clone without picking up any items, and then huck one of the probes in a scrapper. :v)
fluid river
heeh
stiff dome
Sigh. Another good run of mine lost to my most common killer - Elder Lemurian spawning directly behind me.
fluid river
yeah, i was definitely considering doing "cap'n, first stage only, vengeance"
safe vapor
i hardly ever see them either but i figured thats more to do with the fact that a)they don't stand out at all and b)outside of wanting the logs i never think to even look for them
radiant widget
I think that's the only way you CAN get the probe log, anyway.
And I do a lot of runs specifically just to look for pools so it bothers me a non-significant amount.
fluid river
oof
radiant widget
Part of me is debating just editing the pearl logs into my save to free myself from this curse
safe vapor
but then what was the point
radiant widget
Freedom for my mortal soul
safe vapor
no thats a deal w the devil
:|
respect for console players who earn everything lol
i salute you
stiff dome
I'm pretty the devil is responsible for creating logs for items that can only be gotten 1/1,000,000
fluid river
i've so far edited my files 0
radiant widget
I'm not even fussed over the odds of getting an irradiant pearl, if I can just get the right artifact run and find one singular pool I will sit my ass and I will grind it out
fluid river
on a note with all these preon cannons i'm leaving lying around:
i wish it was possible to either ignore picking up oranges, ignore oranges of the item you already have in your active slot, or have it be easier to open command essence w/o picking up things that are stacked on it
anyways i think i'm gonna sleep some more (that was only 5 hours of sleep)
gl finding those pearls!
radiant widget
I might try another run in an hour or so... Lord...
wispy shore
The moment you realize you actually found a good team in quick play:
analog lintel
https://gyazo.com/817d78af802820497f5a7b33d56038a5
I've found the foolproof strat
feral pewter
can mithrix even hit you if you stand on something that high
cus i know he can't hit arti when she floats
analog lintel
yes, with his needles
if you stand too far forward
if you stand back on the platform, he cant hit you, unless he hits a drone and you give him a uke, splatterspleen, etc
or if you give him a brilliant he can hit you through the platform
tesla coil, razorwire, stuff like that
I scrapped everything that could potentially kill me with the exception of atgs and molten
covert matrix
My friend wants to tip Rex and watch him squirm
chrome hedge
I think I reached escape velocity: https://clips.twitch.tv/WealthyBashfulSnailRuleFive
haughty sparrow
how many fuel cells do you need for a single gesture to have instant reset?
worthy sapphire
he didnt get his iframes changed though
solid wing
dry cargo
Three fuel cells
analog lintel
scav killed drone and it had happiest I assume?
analog lintel
that is so shit
dull ingot
its pretty much dagger
analog lintel
or royal cap lmao
dull ingot
u cannot avoid the drone bullets
urban pendant
how'd you die to a strike drone lmao
dull ingot
read above
analog lintel
if he bought it on that stage then its scaled up
they also barrage, so it'd easily get past OSP
thats so unfortunate
if it makes you feel any better my eclipse run yesterday ended because the stage spawned me underground and I died from the fall damage
stoic geyser
analog lintel
LOL
stoic geyser
IKR.
dull ingot
idk
stoic geyser
That's the peak of Steam achievement stats, Dark Souls has better rates than that.
dull ingot
maybe its not that op, but how do I tell what items a scavenger has
analog lintel
visual
dull ingot
i just didnt understand what was happening at all
analog lintel
and chat if they pick them up
you wanna look out for prion and disposable missile launcher
tesla coil as well
you need a lot of distance for all 3, and you need a wall for the missiles and prion
dull ingot
i can never tell what items a scavenger has
analog lintel
you can see the usable on their shoulder
dull ingot
what about passives
analog lintel
haha
uhhh, idk, tesla is pretty obvious
because itll have a big purple lightning bolt on its hp bar
basically whenever scav spawns, get far away and find cover and space
dull ingot
i couldnt see the mask, my health just got demolished by the drone
dull ingot
only way i could have lived is i needed 2 capicitor the drone
i didnt even have a drone going into the stage
dull ingot
i never had a drone
analog lintel
hmm
dull ingot
is it backup?
pulsar loom
Wait hold up
dull ingot
i didnt see the phone
pulsar loom
How do only a quarter of people get past stage 1
analog lintel
i have no idea
dull ingot