how does equipping some random brain stalks
#gd2-nullified
plush geyser
full gale
And each bit of healing is boosted compared to just reju rack
hot root
question how many hours do you guys have in RoR2?
plush geyser
increase the speed at which the UES safe travels probes are ready again?
normal sonnet
no personal questions :|
plush geyser
from some random brainstalks you find in a chest
hot root
wait many hours played is a personal question? okay i wont ask that again
normal sonnet
nah it's a joke cause i'm embarrassed to say how many hours I have
full gale
I bought the game a few months ago
normal sonnet
oh the airstrike
plush geyser
does captain have some kind of probe budget?
normal sonnet
yeah it's an ability, plus it's your utility ability, which means...
full gale
Definitely in my top 5
normal sonnet
hardlight afterburner gives you 3 stacks @plush geyser
hot root
i bought the game yesterday (its 2:14am rn) and i already have 7 hours played idk if im addicted or not
full gale
Anyway
@plush geyser brainstalks gives you "no" cooldown on all abilities including orbital strikes
Hardlight afterburner gives you 9 orbital strikes to use in total
hot root
okay i have no more questions im gonna shower now
normal sonnet
👍
full gale
Cya Itan
hot root
2 am in the morning
full gale
Hey come on it's August
normal sonnet
good one itan... it's....4am for me
plush geyser
and visions give you 36 strikes in total
normal sonnet
visions?
plush geyser
visions of heresy
normal sonnet
visions of heresy shouldn't affect your airstrike at all
plush geyser
its a bug that huntresses ballista also have irrc
full gale
Basically for huntress your ballista would receive the same amount of shots as the amount of visions you had
plush geyser
or at least i think that is how the bug works
normal sonnet
oh i think I heard about that
hot root
what the hevk is an irrc
plush geyser
normal sonnet
was meant to be iirc, i think
plush geyser
yeah iirc
normal sonnet
sweeeet it does work
hot root
dont ask why im still here its bcuz someone is still in the bathroom
normal sonnet
I gotta try that next
plush geyser
no one was asking why you were still here
full gale
Same deal with captain's orbital strikes
full gale
So one visions of heresy gave you 12 ballista shots
And now the bug works for Captain's orbital strikes
hot root
no one was asking why you were still here
@plush geyser who cares i still wanna say the reason
╮(. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)╭
normal sonnet
and since you fire them with m1, the m1 charges get carried over from visions
@hot root haha it's fine
plush geyser
i hope they never remove that bug
charred pumice
I cant be the only one who thinks that wisp in a bottle is ruining the game right?
normal sonnet
barely a bug tbh
just another dumb interaction
i think you might be
wisp in a bottle is fine
hot root
i still dont get what iirc means xd and im dying a litte inside
full gale
Also fun fact
Captain's orbital strikes are currently bugged
Only the first one does 1500% damage and the other 2 do 500% which is not intended
plush geyser
why? its just an explosion on kill @charred pumice
plush geyser
@hot root if i recall correctly
full gale
i still dont get what iirc means xd and im dying a litte inside
@hot root
If
I
Remember
Correctly
normal sonnet
woop 3 answers
charred pumice
@plush geyser becasuse they are just so overpowered when scaled
normal sonnet
there u go, now you know
@charred pumice yeah every item is overpowered when scaled
full gale
Even rusted keys
full gale
And especially poglyps
normal sonnet
that's just what ror does
hot root
xd i thought it was a game thing bcuz i never saw anyone use iirc before so i was confused
fossil tree
so why are the void thingys so stupidly op
normal sonnet
squid pogs are admittedly not op when scaled lol
full gale
Especially lepton daisy
normal sonnet
even lepton daisy is!
heal half your health every burst
you can get that burst super often
charred pumice
it just seems like to win any run u just need crowbars, wisps in bottle, sacrificial daggers, and please forgive me. no matter what character you use
normal sonnet
yeah well the combo piece that makes that broken isn't wisps
otherwise they'd have been nerfed by now
it's forgive me please
fossil tree
soldier sirenge
normal sonnet
which is probably the 2nd or 3rd best equipment in the game
@charred pumice clearly you haven't had forgive me please and soulbound catalyst together yet
if you think that's op
fossil tree
aegis is also a good find in a run
charred pumice
i was playing the game with loader, and just skipped the final boss with the please forgive me
soulbound catalyst and please forgive me combo was removed
normal sonnet
i wouldn't know I haven't tested it since
I just know it won't crash your game anymore
how was it removed
pine iris
difference between Head and Purity: Head is a percentage, and hyperbolic stacking. Purity is a flat -2 second reduction, and linear stacking. Head is better on high cooldown characters, and Purity is better on characters like Acrid with shorter cooldowns.
normal sonnet
and nothing can reduce cooldowns below about 0.5 or 0.7 seconds
so don't stack purity on acrid
pine iris
too late sips coffee
normal sonnet
good luck on dealing any damage then 🤔
fossil tree
so again why are the void things so op
normal sonnet
@fossil tree they're not
full gale
Purity should also give a damage buff to the abilities to be considered
charred pumice
@worn palm it doesnt trigger the soulbound catylists on kill effect anymore. so u cant spam indefinitely
pine iris
wait, does Purity reduce damage of Poison
normal sonnet
it doesn't reduce any damage
but it reduces your proc chances
imagine turning atg from a 10% chance of proccing to a 1% chance
what a waste
pine iris
ok
I have shatterspleen, capped crit, and capped tritips
so my form of damage is bleed now
normal sonnet
oh easy then
pine iris
bleed and poison
sick steppe
anyone try out eclipse yet?
pine iris
I have swarms on, so two mithrix for me
normal sonnet
@charred pumice as suspected, soulbound catalyst still works the same way with forgive me please
all they did was disable that combo when you also had gesture, because that would literally crash your game
plucky comet
i get that artificer was supposed to be glass cannon but REX has so much more survivability with no downsides.
normal sonnet
if you have that combo and gesture, you can only spawn 2 dolls at a time
rex does more damage than fartificer too lol
pine iris
crippling tonic addiction time
hm
also, with tonic and 6 hooves, one use of my shift in the air launches me incredibly high
plucky comet
hm is spike fist on loader better than the normal one?
bright palm
plucky comet
lul i just grappled to AWU and it couldnt do anything
normal sonnet
spike fist is never worse
it's just straight up better than shitty fist
i don't even know what the base one is called because I've only ever used spike since I got it when loader came out
ok also noted
you can only have 3 forgive me please dolls on the ground MAXIMUM at a time with soulbound catalyst
plush geyser
wait
bright palm
Two purity and a hardlight leaves your shift at 1 second cooldown
plush geyser
you cant choose what lunar item you get with command?
normal sonnet
further testing without soulbound catalyst is required
@bright palm what character?
bright palm
Loader
normal sonnet
@plush geyser yes you can
bright palm
Thats what that screenshot is
normal sonnet
oh right
pine iris
what red should I get on Acrid
normal sonnet
meat hook, probably
hot root
are there any melee char or nah?
normal sonnet
but behemoth isn't a bad choice either
plush geyser
and ofc
normal sonnet
@hot root 1 and 2 halves
plush geyser
all of the lunar items here are eqiupment
bright palm
There are three melee characters
pine iris
@normal sonnet remember: 4 purity
normal sonnet
haha not meat hook then
hot root
thats neet
plucky comet
fun fact: you can block literally any projectile with loaders pylon
normal sonnet
@hot root what I mean by that is, there is 1 true melee character and there are 2 characters with melee abilities but not melee playstyles
therefore 1 and 2 halves
plucky comet
useful for mushrooms
bright palm
Loader, acrid, and mercenary
normal sonnet
they're half-melees
hot root
oh okay
bright palm
Loader is definitely dedicated melee of you want her to be
gritty bluff
what items does loader take
normal sonnet
attack speed, crowbars, focus crystal
plucky comet
@gritty bluff Lots of crowbars, focus crystals, the new bands
normal sonnet
backup mags
plucky comet
also crit i guess
normal sonnet
crit is a given
plucky comet
just get all items that help you oneshot bosses, mobility items help since her shift is "Heavy"
gritty bluff
i meant greens and reds
pine iris
the new bands, Behemoth's nice, tesla is also neat on loader
normal sonnet
HAHA THAT FUCKING SUCKS
bright palm
Bands, the crit items, bandoliers, hardlight afterburner, brainstalks if youre using thunder gauntlet
normal sonnet
if you have 4 charges of forgive me please from fuel cell, you can only use 3 at once
imagine HARD CAPPING an equipment like that
it's literally the laziest way to fix an issue
dry cargo
Purity reduces CDs, but is the second effect like an anti-clover?
bright palm
looks at the backup
normal sonnet
@dry cargo exactly right
tired axle
@dry cargo yeah
dry cargo
F
tired axle
it reduces your luck
zealous stump
Cough* cough* balancing equipment
zealous stump
Sad days cause random thinks he can Dev better
normal sonnet
ok lol
dry cargo
Cauldron fuel
bright palm
I think the cap should be the number of charges you have for the equipment
dry cargo
Still gotta unlock that super pearl, only ever received normje pearl
normal sonnet
super pearl dumb
waste of time farming for tbh
nearly 20 hours of my life :| for that log
pine iris
ghlf
tired axle
how would you fix it?
normal sonnet
gesture was what caused the crashes
none of the other combo pieces were the problem
plucky comet
how many quails does it take to be more effective than grapling?
plush geyser
I HAVE UNLIMITED POWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
bright palm
Oh, it was a problem
plush geyser
48 ORBITAL STRIKESSSSS
bright palm
Since you could throw out 100s of dolls with no cooldown and have only 3 fuel cells
normal sonnet
@tired axle easy answer. limit the number of dolls to your max equipment charges
bright palm
I beat the final boss by just mashing my q key
normal sonnet
instead of hard capping at 3
and hard capping them at 3 is the most unsatisfying way to fix that
it's hard capped at 2 if you have gesture btw
so gesture is literally a nerf :|
plush geyser
WHO NEEDS TO ACTUALLY AIM ORBITAL STRIKES
zealous stump
Incomprehensible that the Dev's fix their game when somethings wrong.
plush geyser
just bombard the whole area
normal sonnet
it's not incomprehensible but they shouldn't hide straight up nerfing an item behind "we're fixing this combo because it caused the game to crash"
plucky comet
bruh i have 4 queen glands
normal sonnet
it makes sense that they got nerfed but why in such an unsatisfying way
astral radish
last stage of boss, person i was playing with was captain. His starting item was taken and we basically couldn't attack him anymore
plush geyser
is 48 orbital probe strikes too much?
normal sonnet
a way that disincentivises you to stack items
@plush geyser never enough
more visions
bright palm
Its not that horrendous of a fix, with gesture you'll instantly throw out 3 of them with the soulbound and it still proccs things like frost relic, resonance disc and daggers
normal sonnet
also as if "fixing their game when something's wrong" is actually on hopoo's mind when the huntress ballista visions bug (and now the captain airstrike visions bug) has been in the game since visions came out
tired axle
the balista bug has been fixed
plush geyser
also uhhhh
normal sonnet
was that fixed in 1.0?
plush geyser
im immune to brass contraptions, greater wisps, and lemuraisn now
bright palm
Theyre on vacation so its surprising they even got the hotfix out
normal sonnet
idk all they said for bug fixes was the the game was perfect so no one actually gets to know what they fixed 🤷♂️
plush geyser
hey look at this peice of ground
bright palm
They didnt say that but alright
plush geyser
fuck this piece of ground in particular
normal sonnet
it's fine
we already know gearbox QA doesn't actually do anything
so obviously fixing one visions bug while an identical one getting through is in the realm of possibility
bright palm
Maybe you should offer to fix it for them
bright palm
Maybe you should talk to someone about that
tired axle
can we please not talk about murdur in this channel
forest fog
YES FINALLY
Kept getting bonked by fucking Brass Contraptions and Magma Worms
But I finally did the thing!!!!
idle copper
congrats
worst part of acrid is that you can't hit wandering vagrants with your primary when you're standing on top of them
pine iris
up next: captain
idle copper
are you doing them in order
lofty saddle
Is it an acknowledged issue that the higher quantity of monsters in one stage the higher other players' ping gets?
tired axle
what did you do?
thorny sorrel
Kill
i really don't know i just saw it roll around and i have no clue what it could belong to
tired axle
weird
cedar cosmos
Scavenger?
feral breach
knotty elm
it kinda looks like the body of a beetle and that weird spider robot thing on top of each other
eternal parrot
It looks like loaders r over the head but there is no loader :grimace:
knotty elm
I thought I found some cool secret thing that probably pulls something up from the Sky Meadow stage, but upon closer inspection, it's just a glitched out brass contraption corpse
glacial birch
How do ye feel about the artifact of command
tired axle
it's kinda op
knotty elm
spam guillotine and win game
tired axle
but also a lot of fun
knotty elm
it's fun if you just want to be broken
knotty elm
spamming lens-maker and getting splatterspleen is a good strat too
knotty elm
if you use command and get a boss drop you can probably pick it
glacial birch
maybe next run
mental terrace
Command is the best for doing what you want
I had to use to to beat the boss, which I’m not too pleased about
I play engineer so yea maybe I’m being a baby lol but I feel the fight is hard when all my items are gone and I don’t cheese the fight with my turrets
Cus they still keep the items
I can’t dodge anything as Engie, as y’all know, and shield has a big cooldown
If I don’t have my turrets there to kill him, I die way too quick to learn how to actually beat him legit
glacial birch
No shame in that
shy portal
@mental terrace Get the anti-grav shackles or whatever they are called, and some hopoo feathers.
Jump ontop of the pillars and hide up there the entire final phase.
Take as long as you need to, which is a long time, but it works.
glacial birch
I give myself lunar coins so I'm no better
lunar items are just so much fun
especially the meteor one and the shaped glass
shy portal
Honestly the last fight as Engi though, p. sure you could just stick close to cover. As long as you don't have Tesla Coils, you should be able to ring around the rosie one of of the pillars as long as you need to.
Put your mines and turrets down behind you as you go.
Literally never let them get LoS.
untold drum
Am I the only one who can't wait for the next dev thoughts? I love the game as is but I'm so excited to see what the devs plan next for RoR2.
mental terrace
Haha, I don’t wanna exploit it too much though. I’m sure the devs intended this as a moment of “Hey we say y’all bodying Providence with all your items, now use your character.”
It’s a humbling moment and can really make the character you’re playing come into the spotlight
dull ingot
Erm, are the MP servers down?
tired axle
they did say that that phase isn't supposed to be difficult though
it's more cinimatic
mental terrace
Yea. I think now that I have Captain I’ll spend some runs trying to learn him as a different character and then try a legit engie victory.
hard storm
is it worth it now to use any of mul-t's other primaries?
tired axle
double rebar is really good
hard storm
ooo very nice i'll try that
shy portal
Double Scrap Launcher is even better I find, at least it scales with attack speed. Problem is its hard to swap every 4 shots with maximum efficiency, but if you've got the rhythm and you've got the aim it outperforms both the rebars and nailgun.
1 Scrap Launcher and 1 Rebar can also do the same thing in theory, but keeping in the 4, 1, 4, 1 rhythm at maximum efficiency whilst doing everything else is next to impossible.
hard storm
scrap launcher was changed to be more rocket like now, no?
tired axle
yes
hard storm
oh my that takes some getting used to lol
ivory depot
you think its worth it?
ivory depot
the meme is fun and all and id normally do it but this is a serious run lel
i dont think its worth risking my bands..
tired axle
you're probably right
jaunty coral
Me: Wait what killed me? I was full health wasn't I? The heck?
Game: Killed by: ??? [Capital ?]
Me: really? -_-
ivory depot
not even the game knows
no seriously if the game doesnt know what killed you it will say ???
jaunty coral
well fuk. I had just gotten beads of fealty for the first time, too. Better luck next time I guess.
ivory depot
ah that sucks man lel
loud cliff
ivory depot
frickin finally phase 1 done
mental terrace
I’d love to do him loop 1.
tired axle
nice
ivory depot
ive never actually challenged him after looping lel
its worked fine for me
well
fine... ish.
tired axle
i don't think a even tried looping this update
mental terrace
Sorry, I’m engie. Mobility and damage isn’t possible for me, I gotta have my turrets kill him in 7 shots
eternal parrot
M1 only engineer.
ivory depot
i dont think ive actually ever won a fight on loader
M1 only engineer.
ill 1up that, alt shift only engineer
and now to the scariest phase of the fight
dang, got caught between mithrix and a chimera, mithrix stripping me of my osp and the chimera finishing hte job
tired axle
feels bad
echo iris
yea i think everyone felt that
ivory depot
honestly loader is the hardest character via mithrix
melee but no good ranged capabilities like acrid
melee but no iframes like merc
echo iris
yea
mental terrace
Yea, barrier can only get you so far
ivory depot
like i can beat the game on commando without looping, without artifacts, without going to secret stages, without lunars, and on monsoon, but using loader is too much to ask ig
echo iris
tell me your secrets pls
mental terrace
I think this game has too much reliance on a “don’t get hit” style of difficulty, as most ways of dying when things get hard is getting hit once (OSP can’t help with Blaze and Shock elites
ivory depot
my secrets? human sacrifice helps
mental terrace
So when you have a character that can’t help but get hit a few times every now and then it doesn’t matter if you get barrier or something
ivory depot
and pray to god bleed doesnt finish the job phase 4
echo iris
lol
mental terrace
You die. Meaning the only way to really survive is to be a character that doesn’t directly engage
echo iris
or yaknow use the cheese strat
mental terrace
You gotta be someone who can do damage without ever being touched.
That too but that’s included in my explanation
No one is touching engineer when his turrets are on point. But when it’s just the engie
solid swallow
is there a place I can ask help
mental terrace
Oh well, bloop bloop bloop Fire and then tap you’re dead
ivory depot
#ror2-game-questions or just here
solid swallow
oke
granite granite
why does moon blow up
ivory depot
yes
tired axle
^
granite granite
ah thanks
ivory depot
what no thats not why
it explodes because yes
echo iris
or yaknow the void reavers got a lil to excited
granite granite
the planet itself is trying to kill you, no?
shy portal
@ivory depot How do I Commando, literally the only character I can't play, don't understand what they are good for at all.
mental terrace
The only thing that disappoints me about the update is the lack of the lore
marble jungle
Ok, dumb question, the captains red, I did a vengeance run to get it in my logbook, but it will never be a red drop or command option it seems
echo iris
same
shy portal
@ivory depot Can't even loop once with Commando, no memes.
granite granite
get the roll for em and the shotgun blast m2 move
mental terrace
I expected all the items and stuff to be filled out
ivory depot
ok so basically
alt m2 is your god
mental terrace
I wanted to read and learn shit
marble jungle
Well they did add lore info to a lot of items, not all but some
tired axle
@marble jungle don't pick up any other items
marble jungle
no no I got it
mental terrace
But now I feel really incomplete
marble jungle
then we tried as an experiment second run with command, got a red essence, it wasn't avialable, it was in both of our logbooks
granite granite
they'll keep adding shit im sure
marble jungle
but not in command, and presumably not in chest drops either
tired axle
it never shows up
mental terrace
I already knew I was just still gonna play engineer and god run every time, I play lame asf, I just wanna learn more about this wild world I’m killing to farm mushrooms
tired axle
you can only get it on cap
granite granite
final red item comes with captain
shy portal
@ivory depot Even with it he still seems worse than everyone else.
Honestly I think Commando needs help. Default M2 needs a huge buff, default roll should have iframes again to make it worth taking, and grenade needs to explode on contact.
marble jungle
I have it in logbook, just a bit disappointed the only way to get it would be the vengeance relic
ivory depot
the roll maybe shouldnt have iframes thatd make him a bit strong
mental terrace
Agreed squrl
ivory depot
but yeah, as ive always said, hes the hardest early game but becomes the best late game.
shy portal
Well what else would you do with it?
I have noticed that though, from videos of course, I never make it to late game unless its Drizzle.
He just procs onhits better I guess.
mental terrace
He’s you’re first and only character you have to play before you find others that really outshine him in interest
modest talon
commando decent late game and what about mercenary?
mental terrace
You’re learning with him, he should have something cool instead of feeling like you’re a new F2P gamer getting ready to see the power creep
frosty terrace
every survivor can be a beast in late game
tired axle
but commando has one of the best scalling
ivory depot
should i do it for the meme
modest talon
well i was one shotting elites late game as the load person so i was curious if i could do that as mercenary/commando
shy portal
I find it wierd that other characters got a lot of attention this update regarding alt abilities balance, sad to see Commando get ignored. Definitely agree, as the first and "main" character you have access to they should have a lot more going on them.
frosty terrace
what's meme about that? melee survivor loves that focus crystal
shy portal
Yeah, I am worried if you think Focus Crystal is a meme on Merc.
Probably one of, if not the best white item for him.
tired axle
i feel like keeping the monster tooth would be better tho
since merc doesn't have insane regen anymore
frosty terrace
you'll find more
ivory depot
balanced build < focus crystal stonks
but yeah a little late i dont have it anymore lel
modest talon
whate item is that
frosty terrace
frost relic
modest talon
o
shy portal
more like pot relic ;^)
frosty terrace
amazing for loader and merc
modest talon
is it a lunar item?
frosty terrace
red
modest talon
ah
ivory depot
eh not really its a pretty bad item
like they nerfed it from its strong ror1 form and now its red
i dont really think its worth it now
tired axle
yeah it's pretty bad
modest talon
what kind of items are worth buying on mercenary, what are like super good that make him kil faster
frosty terrace
ivory depot
focus crystal
frosty terrace
like what's not to love if you're melee
echo iris
i like backup mags
frosty terrace
more dps dude
ivory depot
there are better reds
frosty terrace
so that makes it bad?
echo iris
im lookin at u 57 leaf
ivory depot
no my arguement is that its a pretty bad red
shy portal
the best part about frost relic is when you touch one of those exploding pots on later stages and it detonates for like 1k damage
ivory depot
its just one of the worse reds
dull ingot
should I get drone call on captain instead of preon
glacial birch
Idk if I like captain
frosty terrace
sure, there's better reds, but frost relic is not bad
ivory depot
its bad for a red but yeah
tired axle
yeah
frosty terrace
I also feel like razorwire is underrated item. I love it on loader
tired axle
it's really good on engi
shy portal
be loader
get razorwire
punch Mithrix
instantly die
modest talon
I got one shot today by a blue worm on loader
ivory depot
mithrix doesnt use razorwire
shy portal
he don't?
tired axle
overloading worm probably
shy portal
tesla coil?
ivory depot
yeah he uses that so uh
shy portal
woow
tired axle
at least that has downtime
shy portal
I thought for a second they might have actually addressed an issue
ivory depot
theyre working on rebalancing the last phase.
modest talon
is rex good guys?
ivory depot
yes
not the godtier he was before, but yeah.
glacial birch
Does killing mithrix get you anything after the first kill?
ivory depot
glory and bragging rights
shy portal
I think the problem with a designing a standalone setpiece boss like that is because of how varied the skillsets of the characters are, and how many different builds you could have by the time you reach it
kindred harbor
Playing Rex is risk and reward.
shy portal
its not like Dark Souls where they can rely on every player having roughly the same movespeed and dodge potential
modest talon
wtf u use ur HP as damage?
ivory depot
yes
modest talon
wont u die?
modest talon
o
shy portal
@modest talon Only the last hit point matters. ;^)
ivory depot
theyre working
on rebalancing it
kindred harbor
So make sure you glimpse at your health once in a while. Also once you get comfortable you should be able to know how much health you get from your abilities.
frosty terrace
only m1 and R give rex health if I recall
modest talon
how powerful is acrid?
frosty terrace
I unlocked acrid today and had a bad time
ivory depot
base m2 does give health, its just very minimal.
and alt shift gives a TON of health lel
frosty terrace
vagrant boss is a pain with acrid
ivory depot
acrid is... interesting. i dont play him much but hes a ranged melee hybrid with a powerful dot
modest talon
i wish there was like a huge paladin sword and shield or like 2handed sword class
the dream..
ivory depot
sounds like paladin to me
hopefully we'll get him in a later update... he sounds really cool, probably the one im most interested in out of the new chara ideas
kindred harbor
I liked the Chemist idea they had a while back.
frosty terrace
m2, seed barrage gives hp? even though the tooltip only mentions hp cost?
kindred harbor
But a paladin character sounds like lots of fun.
static echo
I hope someone makes a mod which reuses the TC-280s gun
kindred harbor
I don't remember M2 giving hp?
frosty terrace
@ivory depot claimed it does
ivory depot
oh wait the m2 doesnt give hp sorry my bad
kindred harbor
Yeah no hp my friend
ivory depot
alt shift heals tho lel
glacial delta
I honestly don't want a paladin character to be tanky medieval knight, the class. I'd prefer if they went more in the themes of protection and healing but also gave him a big gun
dull ingot
What is this game about? - I'm looking at buying it but I don't understand it at ALL
ivory depot
its a rougelike game where the longer you take the harder it gets
dull ingot
Progression or is it just arcade ?
frosty terrace
there's lots to unlock and achieve
dull ingot
do i play with other players via matchmaking or#?
ivory depot
you can play with other players, yes.
frosty terrace
yes you can play with randoms or a party of friends
ivory depot
you can also play solo if you want
dull ingot
Just bought the game, any advantages/disadvantages to playing singleplayer/multiplayer?
ivory depot
it can generally be considered easier in multiplayer... IF everyone is alive
dull ingot
I consider the game easier on SP because you have more agency over the game yourself
People you play with can be quite slow
ivory depot
the scaling of the game makes the enemies have more hp the more players there are, so if your allies die youll be stuck against harder enemies without any help
that too, you can more easily control how fast you go and therefore how difficult it is
and you dont have to worry about people stealing your items in singeplayer
dull ingot
Like
ivory depot
cause that can happen
dull ingot
I'll post a non-spoiler image
I did this run, its a bit on the long end but I got to have all those items
Nobody to share Dio, fungus, or fuel cell with
ivory depot
yknow that last sentence probably sounds weird to someone who hasnt played before
dull ingot
I want to keep all the fungus on my body
Also I found out that mithrix is an idiot who will target drones he can never hit
dull ingot
I thought he'd go straight for my turrets when fighting him as Engineer but nope
lil missle drone
ivory depot
wait a second
hes like a magma... worm. WORM. WORM
thats probably a coincidence but i mean still
ivory depot
yeah that shockwave spam in phase 3 is really scary
dull ingot
I have lightswitch brain so I always run into it
ivory depot
it needs to stop moving and than give time to react to where it is when it explodes
dull ingot
Best part of Mithrix fight is phase 2 because thats when the music gets really really good
ivory depot
fun fact, the objective to "defeat the boss" fills out and gets replaced in every phase change
im just imagining someone being like "i win yey" and they would have noooooooo idea
dull ingot
That must suck to beat phase 3 and not realize he's about to zoop your items
ivory depot
haha yeah
it really caught me by surprise when i first got there, but i had some idea it was coming as i heard some people talking about it
red echo
i went in blind and was definitely caught off guard
ivory depot
going in blind tho? that would be so scary
dull ingot
It didn't catch me by surprise cause I ran through it as Loader first on drizzle to get Captain
So once I went to monsoon runs I already knew it would happen
dull ingot
I also think its funny that you can burst him before he steals the items
dull ingot
I did it on a captain run, without looping
but I also was able to get permanent tonic off
ivory depot
command or no?
dull ingot
No, command is cheating
ivory depot
fair enough.
frosty terrace
yeah I went into the boss fight blind. The last phase was a real oh shit moment, I loved it
ivory depot
that was their intent lel
frosty terrace
but I was engineer, my turrets lose nothing
dull ingot
Its probably the easiest phase though once you know about it
ivory depot
yeah the pattern is so simple
dull ingot
since you can just stay away from him and all his attacks become worthless
ivory depot
...unless he gets a bleed off
dull ingot
thats why you gotta be like
So does a "run" go on until I die or until the "run" is completed?
up on those pillars, as far away from him as possible
both
Either you win or you die
dull ingot
a non-zero chance
ivory depot
yeahhhhh
frosty terrace
you can end a run by killing the end boss or "obliterating" or you can keep looping for as long as you like through the game levels
ivory depot
you can play infinitely
till the game crashes
dull ingot
Imagine obliterating
frosty terrace
my longest was 5h run, had to go to sleep at that point
dull ingot
and not chadding up and fighting mithrix
frosty terrace
yeah, I haven't obliterated once in 1.0
dull ingot
Its so much more boring
frosty terrace
but for monsoon loader win, I think I might obliterate
modest talon
which item is best here
ivory depot
shatterspleen
neon flume
all ogf them
ivory depot
but for monsoon loader win, I think I might obliterate
YOU DAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
modest talon
which is splatterspleen
ivory depot
the bloody red one
frosty terrace
second last
dull ingot
My longest run was when I was working from home and I could just play RIsk without people knowing. Ended 6 hours in because crashed
neon flume
red thingy
ivory depot
what stage?
dull ingot
Red one
ivory depot
i meant number
dull ingot
I don't remember but it was the point where almost every enemy that spawned was just a scavanger
frosty terrace
I think I've gone to stage 37 at least
ivory depot
you got enemies?
dull ingot
I haven't gone overbudget since
first week?
I thought they patched out going overbudget didn't they?
frosty terrace
overflow you mean?
dull ingot
I remember us calling it overbudget
frosty terrace
I haven't gotten to overflow in this game, did so in Noita
frosty terrace
well it's good to hear that's fixed
dull ingot
its all that early access money
Game can now afford to spawn all the enemies it wants
frosty terrace
Noita didn't have that issue, it was just your gold that could overflow at 2.1 billion or around there
is the gold overflow in ror2 fixed?
dull ingot
not sure
ivory depot
i havent done a god run since preartifacts
dull ingot
Oh right I still need to beat Mithrix with Mul-T, I hate Mul-T
frosty terrace
yeah, it probably sucks to try and get to that overflow point in ror2, since the only thing that takes you there is time
dull ingot
The game plays much more fun when you end it anyway
ivory depot
yeah
mental terrace
What’s overflow?
dull ingot
Cause the little dork with his hammer is fun to fight
frosty terrace
games have limited memory for each number, if gold goes over it, it overflows to negatives or becomes a non-number
ivory depot
when a number in the game goes above like ~2.1b and the game gives up and it becomes a negative
mental terrace
Oh y’all mean for the money
dull ingot
Or enemies
ivory depot
yes, "money"
mental terrace
Yea that’s what I thought
I’d love to get to the point where I either stop enemies spawning or it gets really fucking crazy
ivory depot
they fixed enemies not spawning
dull ingot
The non spawning enemies should be patched
ivory depot
i think
mental terrace
I loved in ROR1 when I could get so much crazy shit happening again
ivory depot
heh... yeah.
mental terrace
Do they just raise the budget of the director over time?
ivory depot
yeah
frosty terrace
didn't ror1 also eventually lag out/crash?
dull ingot
Yup
frosty terrace
I don't really recall much from ror1, so long ago
mental terrace
Crashing the game is a valid winning strategy of the first game
I still play the Alpha demo of the first game sometimes
frosty terrace
miner ❤️
muted spade
no chef is cringe
dull ingot
I was really sad no sniper but then it turns out Captain is absolutely chad so its okay
pulsar loom
Can the director's budget overflow, imagine that
frosty terrace
captain snipes enough already
ivory depot
^
dull ingot
Sniper could work you'd just have to change some of the fundamentals you can't just port over the whole kit
Ror1 sniper doesn't work
pulsar loom
Not gonna lie, captain's M1 gives me enough sniper and enforcer vibes to not need them in ror2
ivory depot
so basically sniper but not sniper
dull ingot
I just wanted snipers design
pulsar loom
Like, i won't object to sniper and enforcer
dull ingot
It is very QT3.14
pulsar loom
But a shotgun that doubles as a sniper is neat
frosty terrace
yeah, I feel like captain's abilities had some sniper inspiration in them 😄
dull ingot
Add Chef
ivory depot
hes bandit sniper and enforcer in one with his m1
its a shotgun
when its charged its a sniper
and when you have 50 syringes its bandit
frosty terrace
I would love to see chef in ror2 as well
neon flume
turbine was great though
mental terrace
Yea scepter is fucking beast
Scepter Merc runs with crit rings and hella damage
I’d sit on the 4th stage and let enemies pile under me and ult
ivory depot
scepter would take a LOT of work to implement for the devs tho
mental terrace
And then crash the game lol
dull ingot
I want to marinate people as chef
mental terrace
Ah, true. Balance mainly
dull ingot
its not about balance
mental terrace
And then the multiple abilities
ivory depot
theres 18 different r's in the game
including mults retool
mental terrace
But now we have more than one R
dull ingot
There was 12 in the first game
rough imp
Hey I’m just wondering, when the devs say they are still gonna support the game that means they’ll keep adding more right?
ivory depot
yes
frosty terrace
ror2 already has items that replace abilities. Scepter would reuse that code and just add some new R skills
easy
ivory depot
yeah except adding new r skills would take time
and ofc you have to balance it
dull ingot
No you don't
ivory depot
...excuse me what
dull ingot
And you aren't adding new R skills you are modifying them
ivory depot
yeah, but they have to be somewhat unique
ivory depot
yeah, there isnt much difference
ivory depot
but itd just be interesting they would do for like, artificers alt r
dull ingot
Making rex r bigger is something you can't do with any item
SO it would be nice to be able to have an item that gives you small effects no other item gives
ivory depot
and also mult
what would his r be lel
frosty terrace
hold 3 equipment?
dull ingot
Changing the gun time from .4
ivory depot
yeah probably
dull ingot
to 0
gaunt patio
the urn siphons from barrels
I'm mad lmao
dull ingot
The urn siphons from allies
ivory depot
it siphons ALL
frosty terrace
oh god
gaunt patio
huh
sounds like a garbage tier item to me
ivory depot
not on singeplayer
frosty terrace
I loved it on loader
ivory depot
it provides some quite good healing
gaunt patio
I just died bc it siphoned from a barrel
ivory depot
and thats why you never get close to barrels
ever
frosty terrace
makes death mark easy to proc
dull ingot
Engineer its fucking terrible on always
ivory depot
well yeah
dull ingot
Also in multiplayer you throw that thing straight in the trash
ivory depot
you dont... have too
dull ingot
Yes
dull ingot
The others are weak, thats why I play SP
ivory depot
take it for yourself
dull ingot
Can't trust anyone to beat Mithrix but yourself
ivory depot
exactly
eternal parrot
Take all 4 urns and kill them all
ivory depot
yes
frosty terrace
what's phase 4 like with multiple people?
ivory depot
kill them ALL
dull ingot
AWful
plucky ore
Me and my boyfriend went against Mithrix with shrine of swarms on. There was two of him
It was scary
ivory depot
shrine of swarms
dull ingot
Artifact
ivory depot
yeah thats a thing that happens
plucky ore
Shrine
ivory depot
another reason to never play swarms
plucky ore
Yeah I fuck up my words I’m sorry
frosty terrace
imagine if a shrine version was a rare spawn though
eternal parrot
Swarm, but instead of double enemies... each enemy has a chance to duplicate on death
dull ingot
This thing
ivory depot
yes we know
Swarm, but instead of double enemies... each enemy has a chance to duplicate on death
no
BAD
NO
BAD
eternal parrot
Yes
plucky ore
Swarms is fun sometimes. I like having those “oh shit” moments when like 50 of one enemy spawn on me
ivory depot
kills mithrix
mithrix respawns and chases me through detonation phase
eternal parrot
I like swarm because is makes wisps die in one hit from most m1
plucky ore
That would be a cool thing honestly
fluid harness
swarm mithrix and give him dio's best friend
dull ingot
He gets it already if you have it
fluid harness
duh
plucky ore
Swarm isn’t that bad, but then again I main acrid whos entire thing is how he’s really good at crowd control
ivory depot
yeah but youll get it back before he revives unless you damage him before he finish the succ
frosty terrace
after every phase, there's two more bosses to deal with
hearty violet
how come there's like 50 names in the credits if its a 3 man team?
ivory depot
yes
plucky ore
What’s y’all s favorite new item added with 1.0?
fluid harness
most of the names are console port
dull ingot
Purity
ivory depot
shatterspleen
fluid harness
gorag's opus
frosty terrace
and quality assurance from publisher. Lots of testers made sure the game ran well and was good
dull ingot
for a certain definition of "well"
hearty violet
lots of testers not finding these bugs 🤔
ivory depot
gearbox rushed the game to 1.0
fluid harness
blame gearbox
plucky ore
I like the blue that makes it so every shrine pretty much acts as a shrine of combat.
There’s somthing exhillerating about accidentally spawning a horde of elder lemurians
frosty terrace
👀
ivory depot
burn gearbox
fluid harness
they already delayed once, gearbox didnt want them to delay it again
plucky ore
It’s scary but fun
hearty violet
oh
fluid harness
mercurial rachis
ivory depot
yeah that item is great. defiant gouge is what its called iirc
dull ingot
I was really hoping for an alt-utility for mul-t
fluid harness
oh nvm that one
dull ingot
car is boring
ivory depot
yeah maybe we'll get one in a later update
plucky ore
Mecurial is interesting
dull ingot
Actually most of Mul-T is just so boring
mental terrace
Shatterpleen and gouge
ivory depot
mecurial is meh
not really worth taking
mental terrace
Shatter spleen OP asf with 100% crit
fluid harness
50% dmg is not worth?
ivory depot
yeah but it gives it to everyone else
plucky ore
Shatterspleen is cool
ivory depot
+50% dmg mithrix...
fluid harness
just don't get hit
plucky ore
What boss do u get shatterspleen from again?
ivory depot
and you may not even get the damage depending on where the ward is
dull ingot
Having zero cooldown on certain skills is what makes Purity the most chad
mental terrace
And it’s a separate bleed proc from tritip
ivory depot
imp
frosty terrace
and it's a stationary small area. You're not gonna stand still in it for too long
plucky ore
Ah
plucky ore
I hate imp slightly less
ivory depot
yep
fluid harness
but yeah gorag's opus is insane but i play multiplayer a lot where it's better there
dull ingot
I'm surprised we didn't get an alternative to Tangling Growth
frosty terrace
beetle queen gives the worst boss item, imo
dull ingot
seemed like it would be easy to make an Alt skill for that
ivory depot
what would it be?
plucky ore
The uh, item that you get from the worm is neat, specially on acrid
mental terrace
Command runs with hella Purity and Hella clovers incoming
dusk locust
nah knurl is way better than a beetle guard
mental terrace
Beetle guard annoying asf tho
ivory depot
see knurl is better early game and beetle WOULD be better lategame except it dies instantly
dull ingot
This is absolute shit
dull ingot
If you need 40 health earlygame your earlygame needs some work
dusk locust
you know how much that health regen does for you sometimes...?
ivory depot
yeah the regen is whats really good
fluid harness
absolutely nothing because lategame is one shot ko
dull ingot
I know exactly how much it does for you, thats why I know this sucks
frosty terrace
perforator and shatterspeel are amazing, urn is good on some characters, rest are kinda meh
dull ingot
Queens gland is a far better item if you want any semblance of tank
dusk locust
if you play on monsoon then the health and regen come in handy quite a bit
eternal parrot
“If you take damage your trash which is why you think the item is good”
hazy sonnet
Does focus crystal reapply from on-hit proc items such as attack missile, ukelele, or wisp? - meaning if you aren't necessarily within range but the on-hit proc is, does it get the focus crystal damage?
dull ingot
If you are getting the benefit out of Knurl on monsoon then you are taking way too long per stage, that's supremely suboptimal
dusk locust
nah its especially good on monsoon cause you have basically no regen in that
frosty terrace
good question bobby, not sure
dull ingot
It's especially trash on Monsoon because of how slow it is
eternal parrot
1.6 hp per second means 96 health a Minute which is several wisp hits early game. So you are invalid
dull ingot
Nothing but a time waster, glands far better for tank
Imagine being so bad you eat shit on wisps to get benefit from Knurl
dusk locust
and then 3 stages later it dies to a burning whisp
Imagine being so bad you eat shit on wisps to get benefit from Knurl
@dull ingot you talking about anybody specific ?
dull ingot
Response to Caedus using wisp hits as benefit to knurl
plucky ore
I feel like urn would be great on acrid, combined with a aegis and rejuv rack
dull ingot
Which is just absurd
plucky ore
infinite extra health
eternal parrot
Imagine being such an elitist that you think the only way to play the game is to no-life it and be absolutely perfect in every way.
dull ingot
Iunno man you don't have to no-life something to know an item is bad
frosty terrace
yeah, frostbite, sounds like a good combo. drowned + foreign fruit works with aegis too
dull ingot
I don't need to play Synthetik long to know you don't take nailgun into late game
or play Noita to know you don't drop nuke on your own foot
ivory depot
so i just decided i should do a normal engi run and
dusk locust
thing about synthetik is, ppl very rarely get all the way to lategame
dull ingot
Don't see how
dusk locust
prob a personal thing
i deal a lot better with risk of rains difficulty than with synthetiks
dull ingot
3rd stage is the break stage
since all the enemy patters are incredibly basic and its very short
VR Chamber is your easiest moment
mental terrace
I like knurl
dull ingot
@ivory depot How many are you printing
mental terrace
It has a cool effect
ivory depot
@ivory depot How many are you printing
@dull ingot yes
dull ingot
Sounds about right
ivory depot
nevermind i died
mental terrace
And when I have one of every yellow I want I just get at least one
dull ingot
to what?
ivory depot
vagrant
mental terrace
What I want to do is reach 9999 health like the first day
mental terrace
Oh nah you can’t face tank that early
dull ingot
Harpoon is for chads
ivory depot
ik, i normally run assault engi
but i decided i should try normal engi a bit more
i now realize why i run assault engi
fluid harness
chad is not playing engi
ivory depot
yeah basically
frosty terrace
loader and merc are what chads play
ivory depot
loader
dull ingot
Loader is the easiest class that ain't chad
fluid harness
engi is probably my least favorite survivor so dont take it the wrong way
dull ingot
Captains fucking chad
ivory depot
commando bois
dull ingot
Commando is also very chad
dull ingot
Loader kit plays itself its actually incredible
ivory depot
and once more i will flex my no loop no artifacts no secret stage no lunars monsoon commando run
dull ingot
very very fun and very very strong
That is not a chad run
its missing the one thing to make it chad
ivory depot
dont say no items
frosty terrace
I feel like the last boss is easier with commando than loader, so loader is still pretty chad
fluid harness
honestly loader has an extremely boring kit much like engi
dull ingot
ivory depot
shes fun to play tho
cause grapple hook
fluid harness
but thats just me
ivory depot
frick grenade grenade is garbage
dull ingot
exacty
ivory depot
i may be a masochist but not that level of masochist
dull ingot
Grenade is so trash its chad
ivory depot
no its just trash at that point
fluid harness
like loader special doesnt fit at all
dull ingot
the virgin bullets vs the chad grenade
frosty terrace
acrid with blight is pretty chad
ivory depot
like loader special doesnt fit at all
you use it to grapple
thats its main point
its not a damage ability
dull ingot
Acrid with blight is possibly the most chad you can get
fluid harness
duh
ivory depot
you use it to grapple
fluid harness
i just don't like that kit
ivory depot
blight isnt actually that bad
it just doesnt scale as good but its still good
ivory depot
because nothing else is in range to grapple?
mental terrace
Or anything else
frosty terrace
excuse me? loader R with bandoliers. You dive into a pack of enemies and spam R until they proc all your shit a million times and explodes the screen? Thats great damage dude
mental terrace
What??! I gotta try that
ivory depot
or brainstalks
high frost
melee acrid blight no items monsoon all artifacts have to loop
ivory depot
why do we have to loop tho
frosty terrace
yeah brainstalks works too
dull ingot
because its chad
ivory depot
and also blight all artifacts is easier than blight no glass
glass artifact makes blight stronk
fluid harness
chad is beating mithrix with unstable tesla as a melee character
dull ingot
I didn't read all artifacts
frosty terrace
chads are known to loop, everyone knows this
dull ingot
the virgin speccing vs the chad not picking up anything
frosty terrace
chads scrap all their items before boss
dull ingot
Mithrix can't steal from you if you have nothing to steal
ivory depot
commando no items with grenade and base m2 is the ultimate chad
fluid harness
dull ingot
grenade is so fucking terrible its actually funny
ivory depot
frick it
dull ingot
when I saw them buffing Mul-t I was so positive that they were going to buff Commando
ivory depot
COMMANDO NO ITEMS MONSOON BASE M2 GRENADE
dull ingot
Nope
ivory depot
commando isnt intended to be strong early game
fluid harness
yeah man why doesnt commando get any love
dull ingot
I had to read the patch notes like 5 times to be positive we were getting literally no grenade changes
ivory depot
yeah we need a grenade buff
fluid harness
phase round still needs a buff and roll does
dull ingot
Frankly I think what he needs most is super simple
frosty terrace
make the nade like a nuke, blast radius is the entire map, take cover boys!
dull ingot
M1 has piss poor accuracy
fluid harness
and no fall off dmg
ivory depot
just let me snipe youuuu
dull ingot
Tighten up M1
ivory depot
thats generally how guns work
dull ingot
I'm playing a fucking video game
ivory depot
yeahhhhh
dull ingot
Set in space
frosty terrace
oh yeah, make the nade home and stick, that would be cool