just thought it was intersting
#gd2-nullified
tired axle
ivory depot
so i thought "its time to do another godrun" and took a screenshot of the exact position i was standing in in the last ss from my 74 stage run
but im playing commando with no aoe, barely any damage, and only a tiny bit of healing
hollow shore
How do git gud?
ivory depot
play loader
hollow shore
how do git loader
primal sapphire
break eggs in sirens call
ivory depot
does this help
ivory depot
yeah it literally turned immortal i wonder why
hollow shore
i think you might now why.
tired axle
you slapped it too hard
frosty terrace
I think I'll always go to void fields now, the items are just too good and the timer is frozen there
(trying to do unlocks on monsoon)
frosty terrace
timer is not frozen in golden place
tired axle
it is
ivory depot
yeah it is
frosty terrace
oh? I swear it wasn't frozen back when I last visited
long time ago though
easier to get to void fields though without wasting time, gold requires a hefty sum of gold
ivory depot
plus guarenteed red
tired axle
yeah
humble tinsel
Aegis shield, 18 fuel cells, foreign fruit and alot of mini shields
tired axle
how many shields are those?
ivory depot
wait the heck has this always been here
tired axle
yeah
polar anvil
@barren thorn did you ask a moderator
polar anvil
ask a mod before posting a poll
barren thorn
okay
ivory depot
should i do it tho
exotic heath
Yeah
tired axle
do it
polar anvil
recycle everything
sweet pewter
So it is intentional that aiming Engineer's Harpoons refresh spider mine's cooldown? I swear I read that was a bug when Harpoon first came out, but I've realised it's still happening.
upbeat gate
Has anyone tried out Eclipse mode? Should I go straight for the ending on the first loop or go around once to get more items
tulip kayak
Fun fact: (Final boss spoilers) ||If you stick around after killing Mithrix and wait out the moon detonation sequence, it doesn't say the moon killed you, instead it says Mithrix killed you, a.k.a. Mithrix was the one that exploded the moon||
tired axle
Vagrant is
tired axle
i die to the explosion way to many times
tulip kayak
Dunestrider is worst, I hate the big succ
hollow shore
The stone guy laser beam will hunt you tf down
tulip kayak
Both of the things you hate about your bosses have one thing in common: Just break line of sight to the boss problem solved
ivory depot
i love how you say vagrant is easy just go behind a rock while complaining about a laser that you dodge by going behind a rock
tired axle
the laser is way easier to dodge
hollow shore
Good luck going behind a rock when there's like 8 other stone guys laser beaming at you
ivory depot
that can happen on vagrant too
tired axle
Good luck going behind a rock when there's like 8 other Vagrants exploding
tulip kayak
Ignoring the two abilities though, I feel like vagrant is a bit harder to deal with just bc its balls have aoe
tulip kayak
Yeah, it's hard to dodge without mobility which you likely wont have much of in the first few stages unless command
Even then I usually go for damage first before mobility
outer spoke
bruh i just got annihilated by a stage 1 void reaver hord of many
there was only like 3 but
still kinda dumb
tired axle
how do you get voidreavers on stage one?
outer spoke
idk
tired axle
they don't spawn till second loop
outer spoke
hmmm
ivory depot
dissonance?
outer spoke
No
tired axle
probably
ivory depot
ive seen scavs spawning stage 1 from it
tired axle
oh?
ivory depot
found the image
tired axle
oh god
ivory depot
free 10 items basically
outer spoke
number 1 image before disaster
ivory depot
they said it was a double mountan shrine + dissonance
shy portal
cool
ivory depot
ss?
outer spoke
and it was only like 3:00
ivory depot
do you have a screenshot?
ivory depot
you couldve took a ss of the end screen
tulip kayak
On a side note I just ended a 2 hour run in a really dumb way
outer spoke
how?
ivory depot
what did you do
tulip kayak
I was doing a command run and decided to stack gesture and fuel cells with disposable missile launcher, found out the hard way 8 minutes later that I forgot I also had vengeanc
outer spoke
lol
ivory depot
that reminds me, i should do another low cd enigma run
tulip kayak
Not much ic na do against a carpet bombing
ivory depot
last time i had some... interesting results
this time ill take artificer with the alt r so the meteors arent doing that
ivory depot
yep thats what im doing
outer spoke
i might try it after im done trying to get captians mastery skin
ivory depot
ah, gl. any artifacts?
outer spoke
No
i might resort to them if i get really bored of trying for like, 2 hours or something
ivory depot
well, good luck. youll probably want to do a loop or two
no loop no artifacts mithrix is often times pretty scary
chrome garnet
So i just ran into this glitch with merc.. got stuck and everthing that got close dies right away. was also unkillable hehe
chrome garnet
Nar i was not host when we got to next stage i was back to normal
tired axle
that also works
chrome garnet
But i have also had this happen in solo but am unable to repeat this
Something about using your R on a enemy body as it just dies triggers it
tired axle
i think it happens when you hit an command essence with your r
at least i noticed it happening even without enemys
tired axle
it could also have something to do with it being on a slope
chrome garnet
Possable but hear something intresting about this. I have body count set to 0 and to happen right away yet the bodys that are being hit by this do not despawn
tired axle
weird
ivory depot
here we go...
tired axle
that is going to be interesting
chrome garnet
Just don't try and scrap afflictions or you destory it
ivory depot
yes ik
frosty terrace
void field is less fun with cap
ivory depot
its also very very scary
frosty terrace
shift and R don't work there
with pretty much any other characters I've felt just fine in there
imo it isn't that dangerous
ivory depot
if you have no mobility items on cap and the next cell is too far away the run is as good as dead
frick second affliction
median mango
does anyone have a fix or any idea how to fix people not being able to load into the character select lobby?
ivory depot
annnd im dead the jellyfish procced a band
tired axle
i died to that too last run
frosty terrace
bands hurt you?
granite shard
bands hurt you?
@frosty terrace they will if a jellyfish has one
ivory depot
no i was doing void they had a band
hot root
hello i just bought risk or rain 2
frosty terrace
oooh void fields, gotcha
hot root
:))))))
granite shard
hello there, enjoy the rain and embrace the risk
frosty terrace
I died in there with cap when clay templar had a few crit glasses on and ass blasted me
hot root
is it bad i havent beaten the game in easy mode with 4 hours of gameplay currently
ivory depot
templars in void is like the most painful thing possible
granite shard
nope that's fine, the game is not easy
ivory depot
no thats fine tbh lel
hot root
i reached the guy with the hammer but i died from the robots after i kiled him
ivory depot
"killed him" oh boi you have no idea
granite shard
yeah the flying chimera will get you if you're not careful
use them pillars and try avoid the giant bombs :D
ivory depot
yeah the flying chimera are painful
frosty terrace
fuel cell and the back up 😮 I'm playing as cap so I bet all of those get some microbots
granite shard
theyre so much stronger than the tank chimera tbh, it's a bit disproportionate
it is not a feels good as commando when they sometimes just fly up n up n up
pearl ivy
Fighting them as merc is paaaainful
ivory depot
yeah the tank have one slow moving orb attack and the flying ones have a minigun and a homing murder orb
granite shard
this is why you take slicing winds ,':^)
ivory depot
imagine playing merc
subtle dust
anybody have any idea if it is generally better to go straight to mithrix on stage 5 or to spin back after you get more items
timid thorn
can you guys list artifacts that's easy to get?
ivory depot
command
timid thorn
i only have the command
ivory depot
anybody have any idea if it is generally better to go straight to mithrix on stage 5 or to spin back after you get more items
it is SO much harder if you dont loop
but i never loop anyways cause im stubborn
granite shard
all of them are pretty easy, i'd say glass is the riskiest (or vengeance if you have a lot of tougher times) because the Reliquary can just own you with the lasers
subtle dust
word thanks
granite shard
I guess honour can be tough if youre not prepared for it but they just nerfed all elites so eh
ivory depot
vengeance can be really scary depending on the balance of your build
timid thorn
glass is the high damage but you can be 1 hit right ?
ivory depot
yeah
granite shard
glass is the high damage but you can be 1 hit right ?
@timid thorn yes, 500% damage, 10% HP
timid thorn
what is kin ?
ivory depot
one type of enemy spawns per stage
granite shard
to begin with i thought vengeance would just be an exact copy of you, so like 500HP dealing 2500 damage a hit and was very very scared of it
but it's not SO bad unless your build is really ahead of the curve
outer spoke
kin is their will be only 1 type of monsters per stage
ivory depot
this doesnt effect secret bosses or mithrix tho
hot root
"killed him" oh boi you have no idea
@ivory depot ???
granite shard
kin is fun
I combine it with... dissonance (?)... so you just get a random monster from anywhere and that's it
ivory depot
youll see... youll see.
hot root
wdym,oh okay
timid thorn
granite shard
try not to worry about mithrix too much :D
hot root
also i accidentally if im right i went to a portal thing where i have to put a pattern like that image above
outer spoke
this doesnt effect secret bosses or mithrix tho
@ivory depot i think what it does is for the stage 2 where you fight enemies, their will only be 1 type
hot root
what is that?
timid thorn
what is the death artifact?
outer spoke
for mithrix
ivory depot
death is if one person dies everyone dies
granite shard
oh yeah death is rly easy in single player
ivory depot
yeah
hot root
as a noob who should i play firdt
ivory depot
loader
outer spoke
make it so that if your drone dies you die as well on death artifact
hot root
i got the robot machine gun and the archer but i dont wanna play archer bcuz it might ruin my aim in valorant and csgo
granite shard
commando helps you best understand the game's principles
items and dodging
then play everyone to figure out who you like
timid thorn
i like mul-t and artificer atm
ivory depot
to unlock her, on the stage sirens call break some eggs
nothing bad will happen
just break enough
outer spoke
and you die
ivory depot
nope nothing bad happens
granite shard
if you're worried about ruining your aim... just don't worry about that lmao
this is not a game about aiming (that much)
hot root
im not worried about the aim in ror2 im afraid of ruining it on fps games
but eh who cares
granite shard
yeah i know but like you're not gonna ruin it
the games are too different I think, unless you only play RoR2 for a month you'd have to really try to make your aim worse
ivory depot
huntress is quite good tbh
hot root
who should i play as a noob then? keep playing the gun guy or the archer
ivory depot
archer is generally easier
granite shard
both are good, huntress better
i personally prefer commando even tho he's not that great
ivory depot
commando is the hardest character early game and the best lategame
hot root
hmm i got an achievement called deja vu
ivory depot
hahah
you have looped
granite shard
you gonna get a lot of achievements early on
ivory depot
yeah
hot root
the only boss im having trouble with currently is the jellyfish
outer spoke
funny story
so the past few months before 1.0 i was playing tf2 for that time waiting for the update and i have my sprint key set to f so i can auto attack cancel as acrid essayer, in tf2 my kill bind is set to f as well, so as soon as i spawn in tf2 i try to sprint in ror2, and i die
hot root
i dont mind the robot and the other bosses
how do you even kill him in the first / second stage
granite shard
vagrant is tricky on first stage, but doesn't have that much health so will die quick later on
atomic otter
lmao
granite shard
first stage you just have to whittle them down, not much else to it
don't die, be aggressive
hot root
welp im gonna eat im just gonna backread your responses later
ivory depot
generally just use your mobility skill to dodge the orbs, and make sure you are always close to a rock or smth to hide behind for the nova
hot root
the thing were you shoot?
granite shard
if you have no rocks, you can hide behind the teleporter prongs too...
hot root
oh yeah the part where it explodes is the thing that always kills me
ivory depot
if it doesnt hvae line of sight it doesnt hit you
hide behind something and it wont deal any damage
granite shard
after the orb with HP, it fires a volley of orbs
kill the HP one quickly and run in a circle and jump for the others
LOS the explosion
repeat until it's dead, it don't explode until like 25% HP
hot root
okay sandwich time cya in a bit
ivory depot
there is no pattern, itll just do them randomly. but youll have time to react to which orb it is
granite shard
there is no pattern, itll just do them randomly. but youll have time to react to which orb it is
@ivory depot wait for srs?? mine does them in that order every single time? slow orb then volley
ivory depot
its not guarenteed but thatll happen pretty often
granite shard
TIL
same principle applies tho, runnin n jumping kinda just destroys vagrants
ivory depot
rocket slide v vagrant is incredibly fun lel
granite shard
which one's rocket slide?
ivory depot
commandos alt shift
ivory depot
oh wait its tactical slide
i have never heard anyone say tactical slide its always been rocket slide
where did rocket slide come from
granite shard
i always just heard em as roll and slide, didn't know anyone added a noun to them :D
he's got little rockets on his back is why, i'd guess
ivory depot
yeah its interesting that the entire community just took to saying rocket slide
we never knew
granite shard
disappointing he doesn't use the rockets for default shift
cause rocket roll sounds awesome
tepid fog
can someone actually explain what obliterating is lore wise? or was it just added as a makeshift ending
ivory depot
im just imagining commando spinning in rapid circles midair from rockets lel
granite shard
can someone actually explain what obliterating is lore wise? or was it just added as a makeshift ending
@tepid fog the obelisk takes you to the moon, where you pickpocket mithrix and he kills you for that
hence 5 coins, and it says 'killed by the planet' to avoid final boss spoilers
ivory depot
sure lets go with that
granite shard
jk i'm not sure
there's a lore entry about the gates iirc? providence destroying one after mithrix went through it, I think (hence fractured), but i'm not sure what a moment whole has to do with it
or even why the gate is between seconds anyway
ivory depot
well gates to their home... dimension? so maybe a moment whole is their home dimension?
so wait
mithrix = providence = twisted scav confirmed
tepid fog
and why can you fight a scav when you buy weird shit lmao
isnt mithrix providence's brother
granite shard
fealty is sworn loyalty to a lord
so perhaps something about recognising / showing deference to a hidden lord (by wearing their beads) allows the obelisk to take you to the moment whole instead of murdering you
twisted scav?? god knows
ivory depot
yeah perhaps the gate only opens to those who have proven their worth and recieved the beads or are of the same kind as providence/mithrix
granite shard
it's like having a white lotus pai sho tile (from A:TLA), if you don't know it you ain't getting in
tepid fog
maybe scav is bodyguard
ivory depot
dont you love pure speculation
granite shard
it's hard to think what else it could be really
but like, who's controlling the gate? newt sells the beads, but they're also found in the lunar pods on the moon or around stages. if provi/mithrix made the gate, there's a clear connection there
I assume mithrix cause providence didnt have much moon stuff going on in RoR1
ivory depot
newt appears to be a collector of unusual things
and apparently that also means artificer
granite shard
so newt is just a bystander who collects trinkets he finds, presumably from the lunar pods
ivory depot
it seems the pods are the true orgin of the lunar items, it looks like newt is just a man who takes the lunar items and sells them for twice the price for profit
granite shard
lunar con artist >:C
mithrix just HAS to be the one responsible for the moon stuff cause he's the only one there, so how did the pods get all over the place
modest talon
so im giving loader a 6th try which spells are super good for huge damage
this is the only damn char i struggle to play
ivory depot
alt shift is easier to use but scales worse
ivory depot
providence and mithrix both worked together on the lunar items it seems
tepid fog
cuz i just shift b4 using M2
granite shard
providence and mithrix both worked together on the lunar items it seems
@ivory depot I might be reading too much into their absense in RoR1
can't remember enough of the lore lmao and i dont have mithrix' book yet
tepid fog
also talking about ror1, i want the devs to make funballs fun again by making the bosses drop a shit ton even if that crashes the game :(
hot root
btw how do you unlock the skills for the commander if thats the right name
tepid fog
monsoon finish game
ivory depot
thats not the skills thats the skin
tepid fog
oh read it wrong lol
granite shard
you unlock skills by managing completing the challenges
hot root
managing,what?
granite shard
deleted comment cause i can't read :^)
ivory depot
but basically mithrix wasnt in as much control as providence, yet contained more power. he also, instead of viewing the weak as equals and protecting them like mithrix did, he saw them as weak and worthless. this led to providence and some "her" maybe nkuana? banishing him to the moon before he could destroy... everything, i guess.
hot root
i dont get what ur talking about :)))))
granite shard
ohhhhh lmao im dumb
ivory depot
yes
hot root
no i mean this
for commando, that's kill an overloading worm and go to stage 20 without lunar items iirc
@granite shard
ivory depot
the two skills for captain is repair a tc protoype drone (sometimes spawn in rallypoint delta) and visit 10 different environments
hot root
how do you unlock his other skills again? you need to what????
tepid fog
for captain you buy tc-280 and do something else that is easy and happens in a long run i think
bright palm
@hot root buy a TC-280 and visit ten stages are the challenges for captain
If you're unlocking him, beat the game on any difficulty
ivory depot
why are you talking about commando no one brought him up your just confusing itan
tepid fog
just hover mouse over the abilities that are locked
hot root
okay
granite shard
why are you talking about commando no one brought him up your just confusing itan
@ivory depot cause i read commander as commando, and then i thought we were talking about alternate skills in general so i mentioned mando as an example
we were not:
captain's alternate skills are reaching 10 different stages, and repairing the big TC-280 drone on rallypoint
thar we go, i learned how to read
hot root
whats lunar items
ivory depot
blue
blue items
granite shard
whats lunar items
@hot root blue ones
hot root
if i accidentally picked one up
ivory depot
they have both a negative effect and a positvive one
granite shard
you don't find them in normal chests
hot root
can i drop it?
ivory depot
there is a thing to get rid of them but its not very common
hot root
oh really is it where you enter the portal?
granite shard
can i drop it?
@hot root there are cleansing pools you can find sometimes, but they're not too common
they spawn on random stages
ivory depot
so yknow the blue portal? how the guy sells items for lunar coins? those are lunar items
hot root
oh okay
simple eagle
tfw u wanted to tryhard for mercenary, but accidentally finished the game
ivory depot
they have both a positive and a negative
some are incredible
others you should never take no matter what
hot root
how can i clear 20 stages in a single run :')))
granite shard
you have to have a very good build :D
id unlock some other items and come back to that one
ivory depot
YOU FEAR 20!?
simple eagle
how
hot root
hmmm how do i even unlock 20 stages
ivory depot
but yeah also just doing 20 stages unlocks a super good item
simple eagle
i struggle to beat 8 with engie on easy
granite shard
when you get to the teleporter on stage 5, you can interact with the prongs on it to make the teleporter take you back to stage 1 (now 6) instead of to Commencement
so you do that 4 times to reach stage 20
simple eagle
ow ok
ivory depot
here it is, this is how you loop
hot root
prongs?
ivory depot
see the image
granite shard
thanks for finding it for me
granite shard
you already reached mithrix, so instead of going through you shift the destination as pictured and then you loop
hot root
okay imma try cya in abit
ivory depot
kk
granite shard
bon chance
ivory depot
see the item you unlock for reaching stage 20 is called 57 leaf clover. its a red.
it... makes you lucky
i will not elaborate on what that means
dull ingot
yeah i never understood what it meant lol
ivory depot
ok fine ill elaborate
tired axle
it rerolls bad outcomes
ivory depot
basically for everything except for items drop if it has a chance to happen, and it doesnt happen, than it will roll again
the amount of times it rerolls is equal to the amount of clovers you have
dull ingot
oh that sounds super good wtf
tired axle
it is
alpine sedge
it is super good
ivory depot
yeah its one of the ebst items in the game
dull ingot
practically doubles your chances on random drops yeah?
ivory depot
yeah pretty much
ivory depot
increased bleed, increased atg chance, increased crit, increased ghor tomes drop, increased aspect drops, increased monster log drops, increased... well, pretty much everything
except for item rarities from chests or sac drops
dull ingot
damn thats like really good
ivory depot
its basically the best item in the game
pearl hedge
and then there's purity
ivory depot
haha
yeah... purity.
alpine sedge
what does purity do exactly
ivory depot
see with clover it rerollsif the outcome is bad
tired axle
i like purity for shorter runs
ivory depot
with purity... it rerolls if the outcome is good.
but it reduces cd on skills by 2 seconds
pearl hedge
I wouldn't take purity without command to manage the rest of my build
ivory depot
its a lunar
pearl hedge
It could work with 100% crit, 100% bleed, bands, etc
But a lot of items would be fucked with it
tired axle
yeah
ivory depot
purity is pretty bad unless you just have like no build
tired axle
it does work well with on kill builds
ivory depot
yeah thats basically it
tired axle
yeah
ivory depot
but if you want an on kill build just... use forgive me please or something.
dont use purity
purity is so bad...
gusty harbor
Idk man Mercenary with 7x Purity, 10x Crit, That one bleed boss item, and infinite tonic, along with just a crap ton of focus crystals is pretty damn fun. (Of course this would be very difficult to get without command)
ivory depot
merc and purity is the only acceptable build lel
gusty harbor
yea lol
wispy olive
hey whats your most embarrassing death
tired axle
soup island at the escape sequence
limber mortar
Does purity work on Any character?? Ive been experimenting with all the characters and the new items.
thorny sorrel
Why do you get harder bosses the faster you go through the game?
tired axle
going through a tele increases difficulty
limber mortar
I mean like "work" as in, is it worth it?
thorny sorrel
Yes, but doing a boss on stage 5 at 30 min is ez
wispy olive
difficulty increase when you tele to a new stage
thorny sorrel
at 15 min it's death
tired axle
@limber mortar only really worth it on mercc
limber mortar
Ah i havent tried merc out yet since the release. Ill give that a go
analog karma
even Merc with purity leaves much to be desired tho
tired axle
@thorny sorrel probably because you have less items
wispy olive
you gotta balance the time you level up and time to boss rush
thorny sorrel
and i don't mean as in "i don't have good items" i mean as in, 30 minutes is a worm that does nothing and 15 minutes was this
wispy olive
less time means lower character level
tired axle
oh horde of many
analog karma
you're better off having a fuck ton of proc anyway, shifting through a group of enemies, and deleting the map
tired axle
well that sucks
thorny sorrel
this happened twice already on my "rush" run
while when i just take my time i get enemies that barely dent me
analog karma
you're not getting anyitems
hot root
okay so im at stage 5
where do i commonly find the thing that teleports me back to stage 1
thorny sorrel
it's not the items. it's litterally the boss. Even on a long run i would be shitting myself with a horde of many brass contraptions
analog karma
ofc you're going to be in a rough spot if you only have 14 items by stage five, that are mostly greens
just run in circles
like, yeah brass contraptions hurt but they're easy to dodge
if you need to, leave the teleporter zone
tired axle
horde of many enemies always hit really hard
thorny sorrel
But i'm just confused why there is just a difficulty wall when rushing, and the difficulty stays timid when slowely progressing. Like in terms of bosses. Because in a long run i would just be fighting a normal default worm
analog karma
they're regular enemies. Horde of many is scary because the enemy type is usually big
like, it's not like Hordes hit harder
tired axle
yeah
thorny sorrel
I guess I'm just incredibly unfortunate
analog karma
Anyway, why are you rushing so hard in the first place? A quarter of your items are from teleporter bosses
hot root
fckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk i defetead the boss to where i need to go back to stage 1 then a thing hitted me knocking me off the map then the bells barraging me with there things
thorny sorrel
Mithril
tired axle
you should spend a bit more time on each stage
analog karma
You can only rush like that if you're using hacking beacons as Captain or if it's a sacrifice run
thorny sorrel
I am rushing with the least amount of items so I can fight the easiest boss.
tired axle
you still need to get through phase 1-3
analog karma
and honestly, I've found the better way to deal with Mithrix is to just get a god run and 1-shot him
which involves looping
hot root
what does looping mean
thorny sorrel
What about the 3rd stage
tired axle
you go back to stage 1 @hot root
thorny sorrel
Returning to the first area
ivory depot
you restart from the first stage with all your items and the difficulty remains the same
hot root
oh okay
analog karma
@thorny sorrel so, my usual times are 4 and a half minutes on stage 1, 8 and a half on stage two, giving me a minute and a half to look in usually 2 chest spawn locations
tired axle
you can kill him before he steals your items @thorny sorrel
analog karma
you know, supposing I actually get rallypoint
or supposing I don't get a better equip like Sawmerang
ivory depot
you dont need to become stupidly op and instakill mithrix
but its a possiblity
tired axle
mithrix also becomes a joke with artis second special
analog karma
I know you don't need to, but I was tired of getting butt blasted by my own tesla coils
and mired urns
thorny sorrel
I did it with mul-t first try on rainstorm
analog karma
I mean, I did it first try on Rainstorm too, because I didn't get fucking one-shot by a Kjaro proc
ivory depot
if you dont have any atgs he cant proc bands
analog karma
I just beat his ass into the dirt then did loader things to yeet through the moon
his orb on it's own procced bands, can't say I know how
it might have been crit/ focus crystal or some other interaction
ivory depot
yeah the orbs probably can but... you got hit by the orbs?
thorny sorrel
I think I just ate my own Tesla coil
analog karma
I was playing a melee character iirc, and I didn't know he'd summon more orbs
thorny sorrel
But basically just shrugged it off
analog karma
So I was standing really close when I got hit
analog karma
I might have also just punched the orb as it's spawned with Loader, I don't recall
because I'd never seen his final stage at that point
thorny sorrel
I was waiting for an interaction somehow
So the items thing was an oh shit moment for mr
analog karma
drink 50 redbulls then die
hollow shore
Exactly what happened
ivory depot
redbull gives you wiiiiiiiiings
and death
analog karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_pu_9PTOE0
fucking, love uberdanger
hollow shore
Yes
ivory depot
one second
hollow shore
me too
fringe flower
Anyone else think that the paladin is a cool concept?
mossy garden
it is indeed
fringe flower
I was going to vote for the sniper next but I think I might go for the paladin
hot root
question if i loop using the archer in 20 stages do i get the skill for the gun guy
or do i actually need to use the character
fringe flower
no you have to use the class to get the skill
hot root
okay thank god
fringe flower
so you better get ready to use commando
plush geyser
captain needs to have an alt m1 that summons dolphins
tired axle
what did i just read?
plush geyser
its cause you see, captain is a jojo reference
and dolphins are also a jojo reference
mossy garden
how many times does hopoo have to say captain is not a jojo's reference
just like dio's, it straight up isnt
tired axle
how much did you smoke?
plush geyser
sorry just its true, captain is a jojo reference
analog karma
someone is a captain
iS tHaT a JoJo ReFeReNcE?
like, I love jojos
but the captain doesn't even have an attack rush
mossy garden
if you think a certain way anything is a jojo reference
plush geyser
you sure? try stacking afterburners
mossy garden
but the captain doesn't even have an attack rush
@analog karma Berserker's tbh
plush geyser
you can ora ora somebody on any stage that isnt a hidden relam
analog karma
bugged how?
plush geyser
or a bunch of hardleight afterburners
mossy garden
it was bugged with Balista
tired axle
yeah
mossy garden
and now Captain inherited it with his Orbital Strike
analog karma
okay but what happens
mossy garden
the devs certainly love the item dont they
plush geyser
wait so, how is it bugged?
tired axle
it gives you bonus charges depending on how many visions you have
analog karma
oh
plush geyser
oh
mossy garden
you get the same amount of attacks as the amount of visions stacks you have
tired axle
so you get 12 shots instead of 3
analog karma
hehehehehe
plush geyser
combine that and several afterburners
ivory depot
and it stacks
plush geyser
you could set the worldo on fire
mossy garden
meaning you can get 48 stacks when you have 4 stacks of visions
ivory depot
3 visions? 36 orbitals
tired axle
yeah
plush geyser
oly shite
analog karma
then you enter a hidden realm and cry
plush geyser
basically muda muda muda muda the feck out of someone
glacial birch
so to get captain, I need to kill the final hoss?
plush geyser
COMBINE THAT WITH BANDOLIER
analog karma
you muda muda the fucking planet at that point
tired axle
@glacial birch yeah
plush geyser
and does bandolier recharge all charges on an ability?
glacial birch
neat ty
mossy garden
no
tired axle
only one
plush geyser
oh
analog karma
just 1 charge
plush geyser
darn it
analog karma
but like, bandoliers get shat out everywhere
plush geyser
well i guess run afterburner then
mossy garden
well i mean just get 9 stacks and you have perma bandolier on every kill
plush geyser
hmm
the oraoraora build
dont forget shaped glass
and d r u g s
drugs combined with gesture of course
wait, brainstalks makes it so you have NO cooldowns?
when you kill an elite
tired axle
that seems pretty op with this build
plush geyser
wow! you dont even need all those lunar coins
you only need brain stalks!
and a disposable elite enemy nearby
hollow shore
Why can you do challenges with atrifacts?
It's broken af
Don't tell the devs though I like it
forest fog
God FUCK Brass
plush geyser
brainstalks is quite easy to get with honor
forest fog
:(
thorny sorrel
They will
ivory depot
im a loader stacking focus crystals they wish
plush geyser
it aligns the teleporter with the planet
brittle swift
I guess the game really wants me to heal
plush geyser
get moar military grade drugs
ivory depot
hey you can never have too much healing
hollow shore
That's when you start printing some drugs
plush geyser
so you will be immune to projectiles
seriously tho microbots are pretty darn good
and irrc it is pretty much a free red scrap every stage if you find a shredder
ivory depot
so i got overconfident and went afk for a little bit
and uh
mini mushes deal a lot of damage
ivory depot
yes
plush geyser
yes
thorny sorrel
Holy shit captain is broken
plush geyser
u get it back on the next stage
ivory depot
hes pretty balanced in all aspects besides the microbot
plush geyser
scrap doesnt work with printers that dont print that rarity tho rgith?
thorny sorrel
Yeah but if you find a red printer you can stack them
hollow shore
What happens when you click an artifact twice on the artifact select screen?
ivory depot
frick brainstalks think bigger
CLOVERS
hollow shore
Like what does the thing mean
ivory depot
nobody knows
plush geyser
@hollow shore i think that votes against it in multiplayer
plush geyser
oh
plush geyser
maybe you cant input it in the experimental teleporter?
ivory depot
yeah its called an artifact gate i realized
ivory depot
yeah the artifact gate was all human stuff, from ror1 i think
plush geyser
and does the laptop have access to the INTANET
ivory depot
no sadly
modest talon
what items are super good on engineer
plush geyser
BUNGUS
ivory depot
frick bungus assault engi life
plush geyser
BEST ITEM IS DRUGS PLUS GESTURE THO
modest talon
damn guys i bought an item on my engineer that made me do more damage but cut my HP in half
wtf happened what did i buy
ivory depot
glass
plush geyser
drugs plus gesture is best combo in the game
ivory depot
shaped glass
plush geyser
who cares about withdrawal
modest talon
that item seems so shit on engineer
plush geyser
when you never stop taking the drugs
modest talon
also which turrents are super fun and strong
ivory depot
have you never realized that thats the best combo tho? ive been doing drugs for so long
modest talon
o
ivory depot
bad
modest talon
lol
plush geyser
EXCEPT CORPSE BLOOM
plush geyser
those 3 are fine
ivory depot
brittle crown is not fine
you get like 50% more gold and than you lose it all instantly
plush geyser
pfffftttt
ivory depot
strides of heresy on loader?
dusk locust
character who gets more out of healing than anyone else... is fine with transcendence?
plush geyser
who cares about that WHEN YOU DONT NEED GOLDDD
plush geyser
no i mean captain
ivory depot
you get two beacons at most, which maybe will get you 4 chests if you are INCREDIBLY lucky
plush geyser
exactly!
ivory depot
4 chests = having gold?
plush geyser
yes
ivory depot
also you just said that you dont need gold so why would you take brittle
also, purity on a proc build?
theres so many situations where nearly every lunar is not good
blindly taking them is a terrible idea
plush geyser
nahhhh
ivory depot
i have so much evidence and so many scenarios, and your evidence is... nothing?
plush geyser
yes
ivory depot
like would you take trans on rex?
plush geyser
yes
ivory depot
thats called a good way to ruin your kit
modest talon
can I buy the same items on commando that I do on engineer
basically auto attack items/crit/attack speed/aoe items etc?
ivory depot
and bungus
ivory depot
yeeep
plush geyser
is there anyway to get rid of drug withdrawal?
dusk locust
@normal sonnet why tf you gotta be so aggro
ivory depot
no
plush geyser
aside from just taking more drugs
ivory depot
you cant escape your alchoholism
normal sonnet
commandies 
dusk locust
CoMManDiEs
shaming people for how they prefer to play never gets old
hollow shore
Thicc gurl is the best survivor
silent juniper
One punch man is the best way to play this game change my mind.
dusk locust
arti best gurl what you talking about
hollow shore
Arti aint thiccccccc
ivory depot
here we can shame him for not doing monsoon
dusk locust
Oof
normal sonnet
it was day 1 and I wanted lore as fast as possible KEKW
still didn't use command because command crinch
ivory depot
yknow whats cringe? shaming people for playing differently than you
modest talon
gonna cry?
well no i cant
cus im a male and males need to hold their emotions in set by the left
i wish i could im not a girl or else i would cry
normal sonnet
interesting
modest talon
jk
normal sonnet
just saying though, if it wasn't command you'd be able to pick that item up i think
modest talon
👼 !!!!
plush geyser
what is mithrixes chance to drop monster log?
ivory depot
yeah its a known glitch that command does that sometimes
frosty terrace
I also hate those shrines of chance that are right next to a pit and drop items beyond reach
hollow shore
Is it a sin to not play risk of rain 2 for more than a few hours?
I've been playing all day and I'm afraid that the rain gods will be angery
normal sonnet
not necessarily?
@plush geyser i wouldn't know I lucked the fuck out and got it first try
faint vector
O.K. so I've been trying power saw on mul t and I just don't see it, anyone else think its kinda pointless?
normal sonnet
still haven't got aurelionite though
frosty terrace
I usually only play a couple hours at time. If a game gets me angry or frustrated, I stop
faint vector
Especially now that literally everything else has been buffed
normal sonnet
it took me a long long time to get alloy worship log
pine iris
powersaw on mult makes him the best proccer in the game besides maybe if Commando got buffed
normal sonnet
and now aurelionite is my last unlock across the whole game
yeah but powersaw is not good
pine iris
yeah it's 1000% dps per second
frosty terrace
I just got the alloy unlock today
normal sonnet
yeah but it's not good
pine iris
idk it's good
frosty terrace
I still have plenty to unlock, I have no artifacts
faint vector
The thing is, I don't see it synergizing well with the other tools
I tried it with nailgun, crap launcher and rebar
normal sonnet
it'd be great on a character that isn't mul-t because mul-t still not good
faint vector
And well I just don't see his gameplay loop being very good
normal sonnet
crap launcher blows unfortunately
pine iris
I beat twisted scav with just bleed and crit on monsoon with no artifacts
normal sonnet
looks like nothing can make it good
faint vector
I had a really good run as well with 2 legendaries, still died, maybe I suck but I was trying pretty hard to optimize a strategy with this thing
Yeah i thought maybe crap launcher could synergize well with the saw but meh
frosty terrace
mul-t is real strong atm, dunno what you mean
normal sonnet
rebar is sort of better now but it's DPS is still too inferior to nailgun even at longer ranges
faint vector
I know mul t is really strong, he's great. I'm talking about his powersaw
ivory depot
the swap glitch makes it pretty good ngl
normal sonnet
idek the swap glitch
hollow shore
I once got 3 legendaries in 3 rounds and died to a magma snek
ivory depot
hold down r and m1 while having double rebar
faint vector
Even having 1 rebar and double switching is more effective that waiting the cooldown
dim frigate
Man, I'm really loving these new merc changes.... /s
frosty terrace
I've had absolutely amazing items and still died
normal sonnet
@ivory depot what does it do
frosty terrace
items rarely make you immortal
faint vector
it makes it super fast
dim frigate
Dying in a single hit from a brass contraption is such fun because you've got as much hp as fucking huntress
normal sonnet
@dim frigate i love the merc changes lol
ivory depot
here one sec imma get a video
normal sonnet
i think merc is way more fun now
faint vector
it just makes it so you can fire in rapid succession @normal sonnet
its pretty busted
glacial birch
Is brilliant behemoth any good?
ivory depot
yes
normal sonnet
@glacial birch one of the best reds
faint vector
its really good of course it is
ivory depot
it is one of the best items
normal sonnet
+60% damage
faint vector
i actually beat the game w double rebar
normal sonnet
permanently
glacial birch
But is it better than 7 stacks of tri tip?
dim frigate
My issue is two-fold.
- Melee characters just don't survive with the hp of a ranged character now. Having to be in the face of enemies renders some attacks inherently undodgable. Even with invulnerability, your CDs are too long.
- This change did the exact opposite of what they said
faint vector
power saw is really cool but i havent yet found a way to make it work
dim frigate
Giving him CD resets when you use a specific ability makes him even more into a "flowchart character"
ivory depot
behemoth + saw = godtier
frosty terrace
aegis is a pretty strong red too
normal sonnet
@glacial birch yes, probably
i'm not really sure how that applies @dim frigate
it shakes up his combos immensely
frosty terrace
combine aegis with couple drowned and fruit
normal sonnet
he deals with crowds much better, he gets even more i-frames than before
ivory depot
normal sonnet
you shouldn't even be getting hit as mercenary
frosty terrace
yeah, rebar is pretty balanced rn
ivory depot
with the glitch its viable
ivory depot
its faster even if you have one equipped but its better with 2
yeah, not a glitch, more so an exploit
normal sonnet
just a perfect synergy
dim frigate
Whenever a character resets their abilities by using another ability, they will always return to that one ability. Turning your gameplay into "Have abilities? Use abilities. Don't have abilities? Use reset.
But anyways, he deals with crowds of small enemies well now
Not crowds of ELems or Bells
normal sonnet
but that's literally every character's gameplay loop in ror
dim frigate
Oh absolutely
normal sonnet
have abilities? use them. don't have abilities? m1
ivory depot
yeah but they wanted merc to be different
dim frigate
Which is inherently the issue with them saying "X character is too linear"
That's how gameplay is when you have 3 abilities and an auto attaack
normal sonnet
I understand where they come from
mercenary literally got boring to play because he was too easy
it was literally "hold m1 and use abilities off cooldown to maximise dps"
other characters still had to focus on combos
like rex pulling in a crowd to use m2
now you actually have to focus on 3rd striking
your damage isn't any lower, the health loss barely matters because you're mercenary, and you get way faster cooldowns on your abilities that matter
glacial birch
Hehe behemoth and shaped glass go brr
dim frigate
But that's exactly how he is now
hot root
what does moon detention imminient mean
glacial birch
Is there a reason to not take shaped glass though
hot root
or something
normal sonnet
@hot root run like hell
glacial birch
Does it involve healht
hot root
@hot root run like hell
@normal sonnet where do i go
dim frigate
Not that it works against a lot of things anyways
glacial birch
OH wait really?
normal sonnet
to the start of the zone
atomic otter
go down the bridge towards the ship
normal sonnet
where you came from
hot root
okay thanks
glacial birch
Still I'll take my jade elephant with me
normal sonnet
honestly it was a necessary change
there's no skill in relying on shaped glass to be invincible
especially due to the changes they made to OSP
but it definitely makes the item more of a risk
@ivory depot honestly? as cool as this rebar spam is i kinda hate it?
you're unaffected by attack speed, you proc on hits horribly
i think i'd just prefer nailgun
hot root
you know getting 4 necklaces doesnt seem so bad afterall
ivory depot
yeah, its not very fun
and the glitch is basically the only way to make rebar viable... but ofc, it gets overtaken by nail later because PROC.
faint vector
i love mercurial rachis
normal sonnet
rachis is very interesting
faint vector
@ivory depot actually rebar is great with nailgun now imo
ivory depot
eh
normal sonnet
i still haven't formulated an opinion on it yet
hot root
yay i got captain and engineer
ivory depot
its better to just go double nailgun
full gale
Alright fellas big question incoming
Taking a single stack of shaped glass gives you 50% "curse" on your health. A 10% curse removes your OSP.
So, if you take a bunch of pearls at tbe cleansing pool can you get back your OSP while still having shaped glass?
faint vector
with predatory instincts, you can use nailgun to proc attack speed, and switch to rebar to shoot even faster than with double rebar
dim frigate
No
faint vector
Yes
ivory depot
yeah except why would you want to fire rebar when firing nail is so much better?
normal sonnet
@full gale nope. having ANY curse removes OSP
faint vector
Because firing rebar at fast speeds deals more damage than nail.
hot root
after 7 hours in the game i have finnaly beat risk of rain in easy mode ;-;
full gale
So the 10% increase in HP doesn't count or do anything
hot root
its 1:47 am rn
faint vector
And its just a very fun dynamic. Yall need to understand its not always about the "optimal" strategy, its about whats fun for you
normal sonnet
curse hp reduction is calculated after pearls
ivory depot
Because firing rebar at fast speeds deals more damage than nail.
it does that with base stats... but later on it just becomes proc bleed crit and rebar is terrible at all of that
full gale
Right
normal sonnet
so your base hp is increased by 10% and then that total is reduced by 50%
you can't cheat osp, unfortunately
hot root
i got scared asf when he took away all my items
full gale
So there is no way to get OSP back besides removing shaped glass with cleansing pools
faint vector
Aight have fun with double nail i guess 🤷♂️
ivory depot
double nail isnt fun but its more viable
if i want fun ITS DOUBLE SAW TIME BOIIIIS
faint vector
honestly tho saw isnt even that fun for me idk why
maybe its just not satisfying to me personally idk
hot root
@hot root well done!
@normal sonnet thanks is it cheating if i standed in top of the pillar?
:)))))
normal sonnet
nothing in risk of rain is cheating it's all fair game
the game shits on you if you don't take advantage of it
faint vector
lmao me when i killed the masses on top of my pillar in aqueduct doom style
hot root
yeah lmao he took all my sht
ivory depot
thats what he does lel'
normal sonnet
yup! that's his scariest phase to a first timer. after you finish the 3rd phase get close so you can deal a lot of damage to him because he's really vulnerable when he's stealing your items
frosty terrace
two of these prototypes in the same place, lol
normal sonnet
wow! seeing that without sacrifice or anything is insanely rare
hot root
thanks time to beat the game in NORMAL MODE
normal sonnet
good luck! keep practicing and working on speed
hot root
yeah i just downloaded the game and im addicted already
full gale
I wonder how Drizzle will feel once I get the update on console
normal sonnet
drizzle is very forgiving with run time, but rainstorm is where your speed definitely begins to matter
full gale
Also quite nice that Mul-T went from being really good to really great with tons of variety
full gale
Now people are actually picking something other than nailgun and saw
normal sonnet
do you play any other characters?
full gale
Mostly huntress
normal sonnet
he's outshone by all of them
hot root
question can you avoid going back in the stage one when ur at stage five to just get straight to the final boss or is it unavoidable
normal sonnet
2 equipment kinda useless when you only need 1 to demolish the game
@hot root can you explain more?
full gale
question can you avoid going back in the stage one when ur at stage five to just get straight to the final boss or is it unavoidable
@hot root
Interact with the pillars around the TP and if it says "the TP aligns with the planet" you will loop
normal sonnet
not sure if that was the question or not
full gale
Uhhh
If it aligns with the moon = final boss
Planet = loop
hot root
my question is it like 2 options to just get straight to the boss and loop or no? when youre at stage 5
normal sonnet
they're different options, yes
full gale
There are actually 3 options on stage 5
normal sonnet
when you get to the special teleporter you can either loop back to stage 1 (stage 6 technically) or fight the boss
full gale
Or artifact stage
normal sonnet
stage 5 has another teleporter thing going on but that's for later
tepid fog
yo is it normal for alot of modded survivors not working especially in single player even though they were updated recently?
hot root
whos there?
tepid fog
like ive tried aatrox but he didnt work, but sniper worked who was updated b4 aatrox
normal sonnet
@tepid fog aatrox might just be buggy
normal sonnet
it's only for unlocking artiacts, which are special modifiers for the run
maybe the guy who created league characters just sucks at coding
full gale
You can still re do the artifacts if you feel like it
hot root
i thought i was in the league server when i saw aatrox xd
full gale
And doing sacrifice or command is also a good choice to get a bump in power
hot root
wtf ew spam
full gale
Similar to void fields but better
normal sonnet
<@&559786374228738069>
tepid fog
kek
full gale
<@&559786374228738069> Johnathon said the oh no words
full gale
Thank you mods :)
hot root
nisu mods
wild summit
I'm fairly new to the game. Is it just me or does Huntress seem pretty weak?
dull ingot
full gale
Nah but really if you unlock her alts she gets a lot better
hot root
I'm fairly new to the game. Is it just me or does Huntress seem pretty weak?
@wild summit huntress literally stronk and im new to the game
normal sonnet
@wild summit definitely wrong, huntress holds up quite well
she relies much more on items than commando, so you could be feeling a big difference there
wild summit
How do you play her then? I'm so bad with her
hot root
yeah i havent unlock her loadout for her better ult but i still beat the final boss in easy mode
full gale
she relies much more on items than commando, so you could be feeling a big difference there
@normal sonnet
Say what
hot root
and im only 7 hours in the game
dabs
wild summit
I have most of the other characters unlocked so far, my favorite is Rex, but Huntress just doesn't feel right with me
normal sonnet
rex is phenomenal
@wild summit it should be noted that all of huntress' alternate abilities are better than her base ones, so while her base kit might feel weak to you, everyone else is using great abilities
main cobalt
huntress relies a lot on her alternate abilites. if you don't have those unlocked yet, you should go get them
hot root
honestly i just move alot i keep jumping while attacking bcuz enemys rarely hit me when i do it
main cobalt
especially since ballista procs the bands now
wild summit
alright, thanks
normal sonnet
@hot root that's a great thing to be doing in all stages of the game and on all difficulties
'cept engi, of course
broken ginkgo
K, blast shover doesnt cancel eclipse 8 downside
normal sonnet
eclipse 8?
i don't even know that one yet
and I figured each eclipse level had a random debuff
so which downside is it in particular
hot root
@hot root that's a great thing to be doing in all stages of the game and on all difficulties
@normal sonnet really? i didn't know that i thought i just suck so i just keep jumping and attacking
normal sonnet
haha nope
if you're not moving, generally that's a great way to really not enjoy the game
broken ginkgo
@normal sonnet The damage done to you is permanent
normal sonnet
half the enemies are melee, especially on the first couple stages
so all damage you take is to max hp?
broken ginkgo
So every hit reduces your max health
normal sonnet
how does that work with OSP
full gale
It doesn't 👀
hot root
i got an item I forgot what it looks like but when you attack it gives you hp whats the item again?
hot root
bcuz i think the only reason i beat the final boss is bcuz of that item
full gale
Either 
or death schyte
normal sonnet
tougher times is nuts
basically the best white item
i don't remember the exact math but you have a 33% chance to dodge all damage after the 3rd stack or something
50% chance at about 7 stacks
hot root
i also like the bleeding item alot not for bosses just for clearing stages
normal sonnet
bleed just got buffed in the 1.0 update so that it's much better on bosses, actually
normal sonnet
I wouldn't know if he heals or not I don't really focus on health bars anymore
plush geyser
does increasing fire rate increase the arrival speed of captains probe?
the air strike one
normal sonnet
absolutely not
hot root
i got another item the antlers
normal sonnet
it's always the same speed
hot root
what does it do?
full gale
Rejuvenation rack
normal sonnet
rejuve rack would be real nice with leeching seed
full gale
is real good with that
hot root
rejuvenation rack? what does the item specialized in?
normal sonnet
if it was the antlers with the green tips, it doubles all healing you recieve
so the seed that heals you on hit would heal 2 instead of 1
hot root
oh wow so thats why my healing was insane when i got so low in the final boss
normal sonnet
that would be the reason
hot root
aight i know what to get now when doing a run
normal sonnet
not like you get much of a choice :p but there are heaps of little combos between items like that
once you get to know the effects of each item you'll understand what works and what doesn't
plush geyser
i wonder
full gale
And doubles that healing or something BUT it's not instant
With that being said it only takes .2 seconds to get each bit of healing