even then, if we hypothetically added a way to possess monsters or something like that we'd need to make it possible to supply custom bindings for every body type in the game
#gd2-nullified
analog karma
Above "move forward" add a tab of the survivors and color the in-game options differently to group them?
proven geode
the problem with possessing is most just dont play well as player controlled
dull ingot
@modest talon I use touch pad and I'm solid with loader
analog karma
also, a possession item sounds hella hot
royal phoenix
also can i just say that it feels kinda weird that the gilded coast shrine is just a gold recolor of a chance shrine?
just wanna know if any of you guys agree
night marsh
well the chance shrine has a golem
modest talon
@dull ingot ok ima post a video here and show u what im doing with loader u tell me if its right
night marsh
boss of gilded coast is a big golden golem
analog karma
make it an equipment so that when Mithrix steals my 80 hopoo feathers I can just have him jump off the edge of the stage and die
dull ingot
lol
night marsh
it makes sense
tired axle
sirens call
royal phoenix
same here
polar anvil
void fields
night marsh
i like the rocks in void fields
dull ingot
I like commencement cause of the music tbh
royal phoenix
void fields after you clear it looks really nice
dull ingot
Other maps I'm cool
night marsh
i like desert place too
tired axle
i like wetlands
olive verge
For me it’s the flying scorched acres place or whatever jts called
tired axle
but i also really like swamps in other games
night marsh
wetland can suck my ass
polar anvil
least favourite?OG roost
royal phoenix
Wetland and Acres are both really eh
modest talon
dull ingot
I appreciate every map
royal phoenix
also, you hate OG roost? i kinda hate new roost
not exactly sure why, but it feels a bit off
dull ingot
What is LT? Light trigger?
polar anvil
new roost is good for newts
OG roost sucks for newts
royal phoenix
yeah but if i'm not going for newts i like OG roost
ionic isle
Hey guys don't put a used dios in a scrapper they don't like it
polar anvil
DRRRRRR
tired axle
how the fuck to i only now learn that it's called roost and not roots
i feel really dumb right now
royal phoenix
also acres because teleporter particles orang and map also orang
olive verge
What is LT? Light trigger?
@dull ingot
Left trigger
ivory depot
oh.
royal phoenix
yeet
ivory depot
i was not expecting that
dull ingot
The way I do it is just charge Loaders shift, grapple to gain momentum. Then let go of grapple and immediately let go of loaders shift
dull ingot
Second utility?
royal phoenix
thunder punch?
graceful lark
Wait what happened? @ionic isle i need answers!
olive verge
thunder punch?
@royal phoenix
Ye
ionic isle
its just like exploding
lunar cedar
And so he left. More steel and circuit than man 😄
ionic isle
and not shooting out scrap
lunar cedar
didn't realise engi is... actually good vs mithril
graceful lark
His turrets are great to cheese with!
glacial birch
Rate my build lmao. It's what I was able to salvage
olive verge
Not other
@dull ingot
Ah I saw a screenie earlier with his loadout
graceful lark
Also maybe go with milky chrysalis to cheese harder lmao
olive verge
Hmm
lunar cedar
also I like captain for now :d
glacial birch
Flight is the only way to cheese the boss
olive verge
True
glacial birch
He literally cannot do anything about you until phases 2 and 3
royal phoenix
R A M P
dull ingot
The problem is just that they need to play around with the buttons to see if what works or doesn't idk
Never tried RoR2 on controller
olive verge
Yea... welp I have to do things so it was nice taking
glacial birch
I can't see myself playing on controller with characters like commando
ivory depot
i mean its headstompers but my god game i dont need 4 reds
lunar cedar
controller is ok with those who you don't need to aim much.
Huntress, and maybe merc ?
glacial birch
Huntress and the melee gang need no aim
true yoke
unless ur doing a run with teammates who active every drone on the map
ivory depot
not in multiplayer
pulsar loom
wait, you can scrap spent dio's?
dim thicket
Who cares about other players, if you have mired urn?
ivory depot
uh
technically you can, but dont.
true yoke
it works fine in multi, assuming you coordinate it right
pulsar loom
what happens?
true yoke
just stay away from then LMAO
ivory depot
say goodbye to the scrapper lel
pulsar loom
the scrapper jams???
tired axle
it breaks the scrapper?
ivory depot
no it uh
kind of explodes
true yoke
my friends and I run urns and we just space out every stage
pulsar loom
D:
tired axle
does it deal damage?
runic finch
@modest talon
pulsar loom
wait can you scrap tonic sadness
ivory depot
i mean i have to do it even if its nerfed
proven geode
alternatively just literally punch it goes like 20 km
pulsar loom
since it's a gray item like the spent dio's
ivory depot
you cant scrap em at all
pulsar loom
ah, oof
ivory depot
your alchohal problem is inescapable man
pulsar loom
i still wish cleansing pools cleared a stack or two of tonic sadness
graceful lark
smh alcoholism is no escape
pulsar loom
but wait if you scrap a spent dio's, do you get anything or do you only destroy the scrapper
ivory depot
just sadness
pulsar loom
so no red scrap out of spent dio's
dull ingot
I experience a weird texture resolution problem. When I set texture resolution all the way to low, I get 10-14 frames in main menu. Plus it's slow as hell to move cursor around. But when I amp up the texture resolution to full, my cursor moves real fast and get 20-28 frames on main menu
I don't even know if it's supposed to make sense
ivory depot
welp im here on the moon
this noloop noartifacts nosecretstages nolunars commando monsoon run is almost over
dull ingot
Matter fact, letme take that over to tech support
dim thicket
By the way, how to loop without artifact portal? Does that one location now has three portals?
ivory depot
dull ingot
Oh easy
ivory depot
thats... just the teleporter
half cargo
What the max stack of focused convergence anyways
dull ingot
You goto the portal. change the rings
dim thicket
Oh, I see.
ivory depot
jsut interact with the rings before you start and than youll loop
dull ingot
^
ivory depot
What the max stack of focused convergence anyways
@half cargo 3
half cargo
3? ok, I been wasting stuff for my speedruns then 
ivory depot
yeah
dim thicket
By the way, focused convergence works in the void.
half cargo
I assume Purity is a 1 off, cause having infinite dash or w/e would be
dim thicket
At least that's my impression, the cells went faster.
modest talon
which do you guys prefer on artificer
tired axle
the minimum cd on any ability is 0.5s
dull ingot
Artis standard secondary is better
half cargo
oh .5 right right, still, .5 second slides 👀
chrome hedge
minimum 0.5s Fire Bolts 
Honestly both secondaries are good, but Nano Bomb is likely better solo
chrome hedge
Nano Spear can freeze/execute aerial targets with ease as long as they're not Greater Wisp
tired axle
good luck
chrome hedge
speaking of which, is Greater Wisp immunity to freeze/execute intended?
half cargo
Also gesture + capicator+ a buncha glass kills Mithrils first and 3rd forms during the cutscene lul
winged wolf
hey does anybody know what the obelisk is and how to get there+ unlock the character?
polar anvil
on stage 8
dim thicket
Loop once, find a new portal, die.
winged wolf
Loop?
dim thicket
Yeah, "Change destination" on the portal to last stage
ivory depot
gg phase 4
winged wolf
ok thanks
dull ingot
Phase 4 was something you didn't expect
dull ingot
I remember I thought we won the game when he sucked our items. I was like "Oh gg" meanwhile my friend thought otherwise lmao
analog karma
"Where is your influence now"
honestly, pretty epic line. Wish Mithrix was voiced or atleast dialog bubbles appeared above his head, alas, can't have everythign
ivory depot
that wasnt hard... just... long lel
i didnt get my tritips till nearly the end and that was my main dps lel
tired axle
good job mate
dull ingot
I want to know what the drones are attacking at when you almost near ship for phase 4. They aim at Mithrix location. Would've been better if a horde of enemies spawned in near end of run close to ship
lunar cedar
i wonder if possible to fight him without any items ;o ?
given you survive that long
ivory depot
aaaaaaaaaand its done
the no loop, no artifacts, no secret stages, no lunars, commando, monsoon, run
ivory depot
yknow ive been doing so many frickin limitiations (See the above lel) so yknow what
COMMANDO NO ITEMS MONSOON TIME
tired axle
oh god
ivory depot
death mark
fading socket
i was in Void Fields and the last item the enemies got was Dio's
my first impression was to leave ASAP but I decided to stick it out and I actually got through it
half cargo
I've done drizzle no items it's not thhhhaattt bad monsson be harder tho but your time is so low because you just rush the teleporter
ivory depot
what chara?
fading socket
the enemies were brass contraptions, stone golems, imps and solus probes
I was Huntress
half cargo
Loader so extra easy mode
graceful lark
Void fields gave them old war stealthkit and dios, pain in the butt
dull ingot
Commando isn't hard
tired axle
you're going to die
ivory depot
yes
dull ingot
He actually scales great
worn gale
Pick up 7 shaped glass and you good.
ivory depot
yeah, with ITEMS
dull ingot
lol
modest talon
who scales super nice late game
ivory depot
commando
tired axle
commando
modest talon
artificer?
ivory depot
hes like the hardest early game and the best lategame lel
modest talon
what about mercenary
graceful lark
Wait are you doing no item run?
ivory depot
is equipment allowed for no items? im guessing no. and what about drones?
graceful lark
I was gonna ask the same actually lol
tired axle
i think drones are alright
ivory depot
aight thatll help
tired axle
to give you somewhat of a chance
ivory depot
ill actually have healing...
till they get 1shot
ivory depot
i dont think so
graceful lark
I was saying that as more of a joke
ivory depot
come with me little friend
it is time for an adventure
wait
what about escape phase?
do you think commando can do escape phase?
north sphinx
probably not
tired axle
i think he can
north sphinx
if youre doing no items then no
tired axle
as long as you ignore enemys
ivory depot
eh lets just say that if i reach escape phase somehow its still a win
i mean captain with only a quail can win
no movement items but a quail and hes good
tired axle
i tried mercenary with no mobility items and got there with a lot of time to spare
spare valve
i was just thinking, if you go into the mithrix fight with dios, should you let him kill them off right before the final stage?
ivory depot
^^
spare valve
fair
north sphinx
despite the oversights in 1.0, a respawning Mithrix due to Dios is probably something they made sure not to happen
tired axle
i can try finding a guide if you want to test it
ivory depot
i wanna scrap myself for taking on such a challenge
lunar cedar
Nah, I don't wish to. But perhaps others might
ivory depot
dangit im dead
tired axle
welp
ivory depot
tired axle
as to be expected
graceful lark
Hate to see it
tired axle
maybe next time
lunar cedar
What did you try to do
ivory depot
no items commando monsoon
ivory depot
HMMMMMMMMM
tired axle
i think it's impossible
ivory depot
i couldve made it to stage 3 if i didnt mess up my movements as much
lunar cedar
You can technically do it but that would mean to lose a shitton of time running away from enemies
And then you'd have to deal with Sky Meadow's.
ivory depot
but i mean... thinking further in... stage 5 type boss level enemy? mithrix? its just...
graceful lark
Stage 5 especially
graceful lark
I'd say its possible, but you need to be caredul
modest talon
are these games i can join where are the ones where they are in lobby waiting?
graceful lark
Equipment?
lunar cedar
What about equipment
ivory depot
dont mention the moon v moon run again
lunar cedar
Shaped glasses for the restless masses
lunar cedar
Once you get by a blazer it's gg
tired axle
@ivory depot you already tried it...
ivory depot
yes, yes i did.
lunar cedar
Damn
tired axle
why
ivory depot
why not?
lunar cedar
Hahah as expected
haughty sparrow
could someone help me out or tell me a strat to finish the prismatic event i've tried all the characters i have no clue how to do it
tired axle
that seems like torture
ivory depot
eh it was only just a lack of damage
and health
and healing
and everything
tired axle
lol
lunar cedar
This game is torture when you get a nice build, and some blazing types decide you must get buried
Well it's like midichlorian says, weak without baubles and trinkets
ivory depot
i may be weak but im also stupid
lunar cedar
For some reason, I expected final baws to be ginormous
ivory depot
hmmm
so whats a different, more viable run
graceful lark
Engie seems the easiest, or loader
Depends, ones hyper mobile without items, and one turtles all the way home
Though for the final boss... with no items? You wanna be monile
ivory depot
engi is easy if you play with the normal skills
BUT IM AN ASSAULT ENGI BABY
graceful lark
Ooooh yeah
ivory depot
but commandooooo
yeah loader monsoon no items would be so much more easy
plus i could actually do the escape
graceful lark
OH YEAH
tired axle
maybe try enigma only on commando
ivory depot
i mean if i beat the game without items, even if i failed the escape i would consider it a sucess
tired axle
that could be interesting
lunar cedar
One punch lady
ivory depot
everything dies in one hit
including you
graceful lark
You just cry
tired axle
so it's risk of miami @lunar cedar
lunar cedar
Just browsing, like the normal traveler you are
dull ingot
Why you have no items?
lunar cedar
Challenge run :D
ivory depot
no items but i get enigma commando monsoon
ivory depot
hahaha im gonna suffer
tired juniper
is it even possible to escape the moon without any mobility items or abilities
tired axle
i belief in you
lunar cedar
Boi wants to show mythymoo who's boss
ivory depot
on some characters its 100% possible
tired juniper
without any mobility items or abilities
lunar cedar
Huntress definitely
tired juniper
abilities
lunar cedar
Merc also.
dull ingot
If you beat monsoon with no items, try eclipse with no items too
lunar cedar
Perhaps Arti too, she'd just hover to base
dull ingot
Heya, does anyone know what's new in this new update? I just saw the trailer thingy when I opened the game, that's all
polar anvil
@dull ingot eclipse 8 no item
dull ingot
Update? @dull ingot
tired axle
i think he's talking about 1.0
ivory depot
oh have you not played since 1.0 came out? yeah
dull ingot
I second that too
lunar cedar
Btw. Had anyone bothered to check for more Easter islands in Moment fracture ?
dull ingot
Yeah I heard that there is a new update, idk
tired axle
it adds a final boss
lunar cedar
Or dancing golems
dull ingot
oh have you not played since 1.0 came out? yeah
@ivory depot
i think he's talking about 1.0
@tired axle not sure haha
ivory depot
yeah if you havent seen the cutscene thats 1.0
tired axle
and a lot of other cool stuff
dull ingot
Well there's a new hero. New final stage, final boss, new items and new interactables
I see
Super cool
so new stuff! :)
tired juniper
are all the cauldrons of the same color supposed to be the same item on the moon?
dull ingot
I feel like artifacts felt more grindy to finish than 1.0
Ah, when does the end-game portal spawn btw? I forgot, every 6 rounds?
tired juniper
i had one where all 3 red cauldrons were clovers
ivory depot
Ah, when does the end-game portal spawn btw? I forgot, every 6 rounds?
actuallllly
just finish stage 5 without shifting destination...
tired axle
the final boss is after stage 5 now
ivory depot
you can still loop ofc but its not required
dull ingot
So when you finish stage 6?
tired axle
when you finish 5
tired juniper
at stage 5 you can choose whether to loop or go to final boss
ivory depot
finish 5 and youll reach a new zone unless you "shift destination"
dull ingot
Does it spawns again in stage 10?
tired axle
yes
ivory depot
doing this on the 5th tp changes the destination from the final stage to looping
lunar cedar
Btw. IF you want to loop, interact with teleporters exterior rings
dull ingot
oh, so it's like a loop
lunar cedar
If not, activate center.
ivory depot
yeah if you do that than you will loop instead of proceeding
you have to shift before you start it
dull ingot
doing this on the 5th tp changes the destination from the final stage to looping
@ivory depot wdym?
primal valley
SERIOUSLY it was that easy, i kept trying to do an aritfact portal for those free free items,
lunar cedar
You will see when you get to the tp
ivory depot
interacting with the ring changes what happens when you go through the tp
dull ingot
So you will keep playing and not getting any final boss?
lunar cedar
Changes direction is flavour text.
ivory depot
you wont get the final boss if you shift destination every loop
tired axle
@dull ingot you can still get the final boss later
dull ingot
I see, ty ty
lunar cedar
In risk of rain 1, you could go to the final boss from any level after looping
sick holly
so are the comedy islands fixed?
primal valley
Im trying to do an engineer run with elite spawns, any suggestions for me guys? i keep fucking dying to everything
lunar cedar
I kinda wished the same here
dull ingot
Comedy?
ivory depot
yeah im pretty sure its fixed
tired axle
@sick holly ye
dull ingot
also, what is Prismatic Trails and Eclipse? I played Prismatic Trails once, is it like a "seed" that every compete at?
sick holly
@tired axle what did they change to fix them
dull ingot
Eclipse is monsoon but on crack
ivory depot
eclipse is basically monsoon on steroids
no artifacts, each time you beat it you can make it harder
lunar cedar
Alternate game mode is eclipse. Basically monsoon 2.0
dull ingot
god damn
tired axle
i think they made it so that if you fall of you get teleported to the bridge
ivory depot
theres 8 different levels of difficulty adding more stupid challenges
sick holly
oh ok thx
dull ingot
I'm guessing 5 fps
lunar cedar
Or torture. Your pick
ivory depot
no unlocks for it, no achievements, just bragging rights.
dull ingot
and whats Prismatic Trails?
It was funny getting stuck in that island. If you had command artifact, you had to get green item and get hopoo feathers
ivory depot
set seed, compete for the best time
lunar cedar
Same seed. Nothing changed
No reward yet
I don't think there will be any, dunno what could they be.
dull ingot
I see, maybe they will add something in the future though
trim kernel
any tips for Captain Monsoon runs for ||fighting mithrix? as soon as I hit phase 4 and lose my items its near impossible to handle him.||
lunar cedar
Just run like crazy
ivory depot
jump over orbs, run in circles
lunar cedar
Stay away from him basically
dull ingot
Best you can do is burst his ass down
tired axle
kill him before he steals them
lunar cedar
Mahdudes. Ez with spoilers. We got newcomer here
ivory depot
right whoops lel
dull ingot
Nice
tired axle
@dull ingot no
trim kernel
||I looped three times to try and burst him immediately, I did have bleed though, suppose I should be more cautious with my greys||
ivory depot
||Dont have bleed items lel||
lunar cedar
Or midichlorian. Or mythymoo
ivory depot
worm man
lunar cedar
Brovidence.
trim kernel
||So basically avoid shield generators, bleed, any dot effect really||
ivory depot
honestly its fine in that ss i just got absurdly unlucky
trim kernel
||I was trying to see if I could get a shitton of fuel cells and then get backup and just flood his ass||
ivory depot
or lucky considering the fact i had 4 hp
lunar cedar
Explains Provi's Gilded Wurms in ror1
trim kernel
Wellll, also saying that cause I died to bleed last time lmao
was like a 140 min run
sullen peak
do worms have toes?
royal phoenix
||you could stack glass and then burst him down with his low hp||
lunar cedar
Profundus.
ivory depot
haha yeah bleed is really scary on the final phase
trim kernel
Ya I was considering that aswell, I'm really only having an issue with phase 4
stoic vine
in the 5th stage, its mandatory to have utility items? i seem to be softlocked
trim kernel
soup?
ivory depot
||detonation phase||? kind of.
stoic vine
yea :c
lunar cedar
Ouchie
tired axle
what character?
lunar cedar
Engi I bet
ivory depot
i mean i made it out as captain with only a single quail and nothing else, so some characters with just a normal mobility skill (like huntress or commando) may be able to
stoic vine
I was the engineer I think and traded my double jump at the trade islands and got softlocked on the island and had to end it lol
graceful lark
Don't you spawn on the bridge when you jump into the void?
lunar cedar
Knew it
tired axle
soup island got another one
trim kernel
ah, that blows
graceful lark
Or did they just change that
lunar cedar
They said they changed it
stoic vine
why is there no jump pads ;c
tired axle
it got fixed in the last hotfix tho
ivory depot
i think they made it easier to get off?
trim kernel
apparently its been changed but I havent tested
ivory depot
i dont actually know what they did
trim kernel
I got off as captain with 1 hoppo feather
graceful lark
First run I realized soup island was cursed...
tired axle
i think if you jump of you get ported to the bridge now
trim kernel
by going at a certain angle
ivory depot
off with one feather? before it was around 3 with no movement skills
tired axle
2 actually
ivory depot
so that means its... better? i dont actually know
trim kernel
I was trying for like 40 mins
tired axle
or 1 and 2 energy
primal valley
yeah if your fighting the boss, try to have as few items as possible but powerful ones
graceful lark
The curse of soup island...
trim kernel
I went for the opposite approach
tired axle
he doesn't use tougher times btw. so you can try stacking those
trim kernel
I figured if I had SO MANY ITEMS he'd take longer to succ em out
ivory depot
honestly phase 4 isnt bad except for bleed but it isnt too bad overall due to the fact that the patterns are so simple
trim kernel
so more time to burst
trim kernel
I was scrapping war banners, slugs, all that just to pick them up again and put them first in the que to get SUCCED
ivory depot
well, stage 3. that dunestrider killed me nearly instantly... i shouldve moved faster.
ignore my attempts to send all the enemies to the shadow realm off the edge
lunar cedar
I like the way cap wears his glasses
safe vapor
am i the only one finding captain so powerful its kinda ridiculous
tawny finch
Yo wtf
tired axle
i think he's fine @safe vapor
tawny finch
Mithrix's design is kinda sexy doe 
glacial birch
Who would you say is the best character to apply bleed?
ivory depot
commando
sullen peak
huntress?
tired axle
@tawny finch he do be kinda cute tho
ivory depot
please stop
safe vapor
hes fun, im ok with the hidden realms downside tbh tho
ivory depot
honestly its kind of stupid
they cripple a character in 5-ish stages for continuity
hes pretty fun, not overpowered. hes good but not the best
i think that maybe they should nerf the proc coefficient of the m1 a bit and buff the m2 a bit as well
tired axle
i agree
safe vapor
🤷♂️
modest talon
are these the items im looking for on artificer?
ivory depot
yes those are good
modest talon
wtf im one shooting elites
tawny finch
Yeah, and some movement speed too.
tired axle
@tawny finch you could just use cheat engine
ivory depot
honestly i need to start playing arti more
safe vapor
get some hooves and hopoos
modest talon
dont i need attack speed and lense glasses?
safe vapor
and quail
ivory depot
ive never been a fan... like, i did the challenges, but i havent touched her since
tawny finch
Nah, its fine tbh. Playing Mithrix might be cool, but just not really that practical haha.
Gonna steal his model tho 
ivory depot
chaos artifact mithrix v mithrix pvp
modest talon
people that find this class hard confuse me, i think that they dont understand how to play her at all
safe vapor
lenses are good but you're gonna want to be able to double jump and move around once you start seeing a bunch of elder lemurians and brass contraptions
ivory depot
ive never just been a fan of hte glass cannon playstyle
sonic sonnet
I mean you are playing on drizzle in that image
fervent turtle
I wish most of my runs didn't end with "what the fuck was that"
safe vapor
lol true
tawny finch
Me neither, but then again I play Rex most of the time and I go below OSP levels so.
modest talon
i mean i had more success with her than loader
tawny finch
Im a cute vampire plant 
modest talon
whos friggin PHD level
ivory depot
i mean i had more success with her than loader
excuse me what
safe vapor
o_O
tired axle
is loader still op?
sonic sonnet
loader is so friggin fun
tired axle
haven't tried her in a long time
ivory depot
they nerfed alt shift, indirect buff from the new bands lel
safe vapor
i think youre coming to an opinion too early lol
graceful lark
Honestly I'm not that good at loader
modest talon
^
ivory depot
loader is one of my favorites
modest talon
loader is way too difficult for me atleast i like artificer way better
sonic sonnet
loader can't just run in and expect to live, gotta be patient
compact wasp
loader dont you mean spam soldiers syringe and purity until you can fly with shift
frosty terrace
take bandoliers on loader
tawny finch
Here we go boys
frosty terrace
hold R
ivory depot
with loader, especially on the mithrix fight, you have to time/space your attacks
graceful lark
Engineer is the epitome of "the best way to win is to not play at all"
ivory depot
except on stage 1 tho
stage 1 loader is just facetank the boss they practically cant hurt you due to scrap barrier
frosty terrace
oh you guys were talking about the boss fight, yeah you need so real good items or lots of patience
sonic sonnet
who is the weakest in the game debatably rn?
frosty terrace
probably rex
ivory depot
commando till you get the items
compact wasp
probably rex
hm
ivory depot
NOT REX
ABSOLUTELY NOT REX
tired axle
@frosty terrace WHAT?
ivory depot
like they nerfed rex but not enough that hes the worst
lunar cedar
Lol rex xDDDDD biggest joke ever.
tired axle
he's still really strong
sonic sonnet
commando definitely feels super lame
frosty terrace
well that sure got a response out of all of you rex fans
lunar cedar
I mean, he kinda is. weak. I play the worst with him. everyone else is fine for me
compact wasp
Rex + Captains will heal beacon
ivory depot
yeah hes still quite good
not the top tier he was but hes still good
sonic sonnet
until you get predatory instinct
ivory depot
commando is actually one of my favorites... i dont like being overpowered all the time. its all the more satisfying once you win
lunar cedar
Commando needs attack speed + tri tip to be great
modest talon
is there a reason why my ice cold spells are bouncing off ice monsters adapted to cold
safe vapor
prob vanilla commando
frosty terrace
rex really needs mobility items, he can't dodge shit without items
safe vapor
alt commando is pretty good
ivory depot
ofc i dont mind the normal godrun
sonic sonnet
I mean obviously I don't want to bend all the monsters to my will from the get go
tired axle
@modest talon it's bugged rn
gilded marsh
Ive become very comfortable with captain. His m1 is just so strong
ivory depot
but its fun being weaker and having to struggle through things
sonic sonnet
i've played captain so much it feels weird not getting chests for free
gilded marsh
Monsoon then.. or eclipse @ivory depot
modest talon
so again for artificer I need crow bars and lense glasses? and the bands and clips and crow bars and mobilty items?
gilded marsh
I run double hack on captain
ivory depot
it was drizzle cause i never intended to go 74 stages in lel
here monsoon commando run
lunar cedar
If anyone remembers, there was Captain's Brooch in RoR1. Captain has been probably been in their minds since then xD
well done fam
ivory depot
that was my no looping, no artifacts, no secret stages, and no lunars commando monsoon run
gusty wigeon
noow that's a loot of coins
ivory depot
i didnt use any that run
and what about it
gusty wigeon
nooothing just looking haha
modest talon
holy do these infinitly stack on artificer?
gusty wigeon
and that's a goood run you got there
safe vapor
i didn't on my 1st monsoon kill either
ivory depot
i got pretty lucky that run i will admit lel
safe vapor
they infinitely stack on anyone native
tired axle
everything stacks infinitely
ivory depot
this was another no loop no artifacts no luinars no secret stages commando monsoon run
i had a bad encounter with an overloading elder lemurian tho lel
i was lacking a lot of healing in that one
tawny finch
So you can do the sprint + fire trick on Captain that you can on Engie, thats neat.
frosty terrace
yeah, that lemurian ambust got me on a monsoon loader run too
ivory depot
haha elder lemurs are the bane of every character
safe vapor
they sneak up on you
ivory depot
melee, ranged, who cares? you cant stop them,
safe vapor
blast you from behind
ivory depot
get close and you die
run away and you die'
frosty terrace
they shoot right as the spawn
tawny finch
Clay Templars 
ivory depot
there is no escape
tawny finch
No, Templars spoopy
tired axle
good point
safe vapor
thats where feathers and speed are really clutch
ivory depot
clay templars arent actually bad unless you get caught in their fire with no escape
besides, chimera wisps are them
but they fly
and have a homing high damage second attack
safe vapor
homing ball of doom
1st time i got to boss i ate one to the face, learning experience
ivory depot
yeah they are a good one shot tool
stable cipher
I hate getting hit by one or two of those Phase 4 needles and then getting proc chained to death. Feels kind of bad.
ivory depot
yeah it sucks
i havent had that kind of bad luck yet but ive heard so many people have got instakilled in fourth phase
stable cipher
Especially if it isn't supposed to be the hard phase.
ivory depot
i think its supposed to be more cinematic than anything but they kind of busted it
tired axle
i think all phases are supposed to be hard
safe vapor
well in the dev thoughts about 1.0 they specifically said that players would have to think about how their items would impact the boss fight right
ivory depot
they literally said in dev thoughts 17 that it was supposed to be an easier phase
tired axle
i didn't read that one lol
ivory depot
late game you get proc chains against you and early game you got bleed against you
stable cipher
I mean apart from Bands which he can't natively proc with his needles, just about every other item that affects your damage will be used against you
ivory depot
yeah but bleeds and proc chains are the main ones thatll get you
safe vapor
survivors with blink have a huge advantage there cuz they don't need items to dodge his needles
ivory depot
i mean even commando can make it easier
safe vapor
i guess strides would be really good
ivory depot
yeah
safe vapor
yeah slide too
stable cipher
Except you won't have Strides
ivory depot
loader with strides phase 4 when
stable cipher
can't rely on getting any specific item back immediately
safe vapor
err yes, true lol
graceful lark
You keep your equipment tho
safe vapor
capacitor has got to be the best
ivory depot
klein bottle meta when
safe vapor
i never find one tho
ivory depot
yeah a damage equip makes it a lot easier but its not... too bad without.
steady jewel
Back to complaining about phase 4 again because I just got killed by my 4 medkits and N'kuhana's Opinion's homing projectiles
stable cipher
also Artificer if you're not using Ion Surge
safe vapor
bringing medkits to mithrix is bad
graceful lark
Great combos lead to great pain
ivory depot
its fine if you keep the damage on but someone like loader and maybe arti struggle to do that
stable cipher
4 medkits and Opinion isn't even great on the player, unless maybe REX
graceful lark
If you aren't confident you can burst him
ivory depot
medkits arent actually taht bad if you are careful
steady jewel
Mul-T
ivory depot
fair enough
stable cipher
MUL-T can keep the minigun damage coming
steady jewel
I wasn't using minigun because I'm stupid and like to meme with sawblade
ivory depot
sawblade sawblade sawblade sawblade
safe vapor
id take a rebar
spark narwhal
How do you beat game on monsoon with artificer?
ivory depot
rebar could actually be really good against mithrx
safe vapor
snipe him with it
ivory depot
and with new bands...
stable cipher
rebar and scrap launcher both
safe vapor
yeah fr
tired axle
double rebar and do the bug
safe vapor
you wouldn't even need to go near him
stable cipher
though i think scrap launcher doesn't actually proc bands
tired axle
have fun
ivory depot
i might
stable cipher
tbh I'd envision a final stage based off taking all your items to involve some of the items granting him new attacks instead
tired axle
too much work
safe vapor
you could probably get your items back so fast w rebar it wouldn't matter much what you take
just stay far away
stable cipher
is getting your stuff back based on hits or damage done?
ivory depot
i think a good fix (it could just serve as a temporary one till they get a new version of the phase) is that he takes your items but he cant use them either
tired axle
damage i believe
ivory depot
maybe just store them in some bubble by him
graceful lark
New item based off of providece? 😳
safe vapor
it seemed completely random to me Braegh
ivory depot
yeah damage
stable cipher
cause I wasn't getting much back from Captain charged M1's
willow cedar
charged m1's don't do any more than non-charged
steady jewel
I like that he tales your items away though
stable cipher
it does when you're at range because most the pellets will hit
trim kernel
I like the suggestion of making beads of fealty do something to him
willow cedar
friendship-fatality
graceful lark
Charging m1 just bunches it the pellets together so they all hit 1 target more accurately
versed oracle
is anyone having lag problems in multiplayer?
graceful lark
Beads would be cool, or maybe a providence item that he reacts to
trim kernel
ya
need to try it, but for captain I think the best idea would to be stacking fuelcells and backup, getting a bunch of dps items that ARENT gonna fuck you over when he gets em
and just be ready to make a buncha drones
cause ya there isnt much he can do compared to others
trim kernel
Ya, can throw in the beacons aswell for a little bit extra damage, since you dont really NEED them there
trim kernel
Visions is the one that changes your m1 right? maybe im not understanding right but airtsrike?
tired axle
you can have like 60 shots and just unload
trim kernel
dunno if thatd be enough still
steady jewel
https://gfycat.com/accomplishedbothkoalabear The pain just never stops
steady jewel
I had Sawblade because I'm stupid
tired axle
lol
steady jewel
But how would rebarb save me from N'kuhana's Opinion?
ivory depot
if the healing never triggers the nkuana wont either
tired axle
stay out of range i guess
steady jewel
I guess so, but that's only when I get rebarb back
I'm just kinda salty that having a little bit of synergy in your build can destroy you
tired axle
yeah
frosty terrace
boss wanted to show me his tightrope skills
steady jewel
What a show off
tired axle
lol
deft breach
i love how this game officially clowns you for picking drizzle
steady jewel
It does?
graceful lark
I don't play drizzle so I wouldn't know exactly lol
deft breach
it says that weeping and gnashing is replaced by laughter and tickles
graceful lark
Nice
deft breach
in the description of it
steady jewel
Actually sounds kinda nice
bold cobalt
Is this accurate? That only 22% of players on steam have done a teleporter event successfully?
lyric surge
so is quickplay just gone??
ivory depot
yeah
lyric surge
what
tired axle
you only get the achievment if you logged in after 1.0 @bold cobalt
deft breach
people probably havent loaded the game yet
bold cobalt
Ah ok that makes more sense.
lyric surge
so I do have to wait in a lobby until they lose or win in order for me to play a game...?
steady jewel
Think it's also in part because of the extra copy everyone got when RoR2 was released and some people just not playing it
bold cobalt
Oh yeah, forgot about that
ivory depot
although...
merc ethereal has a 3.1% completion
artifact of frality? 3.3%
bold cobalt
Well until more people log on all (most of) my achievements are shiny gold so I'm not complaining
ivory depot
yeeep
bold cobalt
Theres some pretty wack stuff in the stats if you look yeah
ivory depot
ss?
ivory depot
...i have a theory but its a stretch
it came from outside the arena and flew in
but yeah ig they do spawn
never seen it myself tho
wise bronze
royal phoenix
more spawn later
wise bronze
@tepid kraken
royal phoenix
had a run where like 50 extra dropped in
bold cobalt
Last night a guy was playing around with cheats and got a TON of the land chimeras to spawn on that stage by breaking the difficulty scaling
royal phoenix
yeah it was me
wise bronze
this part of the fight seems impossible because of them
royal phoenix
fun times
bold cobalt
Lol yep
royal phoenix
only a few extra drop in on the first couple loops
like 1-2
gets kinda weird in the later ones tho
bold cobalt
That part of the fight is pretty doable, you just need to use cover and stuff. If you really have trouble then do an engi run
wise bronze
good, because air chimeras are fucking rediculous in the final fight
tired axle
yeah
bold cobalt
Could just be random, but probably a balance thing
ivory depot
ive never actually seeen the flying chimera
i wonder if its a result of my non-looping
but probably not
bold cobalt
Wait seriously?
gritty bluff
ah yes, trying to get glass is a good idea
ivory depot
my glass run i came in as loader with lkike 7k hp and 20 tougher times/plates
ivory depot
yeah i saw i said probably not
bold cobalt
Glass is a horrifying challenge. One of the sparks can kill you if you dont have the right items
gritty bluff
also whats a flying chimera
wise bronze
a peice of shit garbage annoying enemy
bold cobalt
Special enemy on the boss stage
wise bronze
fuck flying chimeras HARD
tired axle
@gritty bluff an enemy in the final stage
gritty bluff
the sentry or the mecha wisp
tired axle
the wisp
gritty bluff
ah
bold cobalt
They're not so bad as long as you have decent mobility so you can dodge their attacks
lyric surge
so wait do I really gotta wait like an hour to get into a game with people in it because they remove qp?
why did they remove quickplay
tired axle
you can try asking people here
buoyant thicket
the flying chimeras r ez
tired axle
i think there's a channel for that
ivory depot
no just join a game that hasnt started
lyric surge
but again like it was fine before... why fix whats not broken
ivory depot
or host a game
bold cobalt
There is a LFG channel further down
lyric surge
no just join a game that hasnt started
@ivory depot theres no option to sort by that lol
ivory depot
theres an option it just doesnt work lel
lyric surge
pepega clap dev wr
ivory depot
but the image next to the game? if it shows the lobby with a commando in it that means it hasnt started yet
wise bronze
just added this to the wiki
ivory depot
nice.
lyric surge
but the image next to the game? if it shows the lobby with a commando in it that means it hasnt started yet
@ivory depot thanks
tired axle
thanks mate
chrome hedge
Glass challenge is quite doable once you learn to abuse the cover. There's that place at the back of the arena where there's a big wall the shots can't reach. Do all your fighting there and leave only to deliver keys, doing so when the rotating shots pass your path.
muted spade
or you can be in one of the higher platforms, wherever works
ivory depot
that too
wise bronze
is using artifacts on a mythrix monsoon run cheating?
tired axle
yes and no
ivory depot
not really
tired axle
i did it with command
ivory depot
everyone will be fine with it, but if you dont people will think ur good
or lucky
it depends
buoyant thicket
no
wise bronze
people need to think im good, its the only possible way i can achieve any sort of validation in my life time
dull viper
Does Gorags Opus not work on Captain?
tired axle
yeah
ivory depot
i do that but i also try to do stupid stuff i can brag about
tired axle
it's bugged
ivory depot
yeah thats a known glitch
dull viper
yea my ears are bleeding right now
I have the auto activate item and got opus from the random equipment artifact
ivory depot
...you picked up gesture on an enigma run?
thats a bad idea in a small amount of cd reduction and a worse idea with a lot of cd reduction
dull viper
I thought it would be fun
dull ingot
nice
ivory depot
it is not fun
it is just pain
dull viper
yea I managed to change equipment but it just rolls back to opus so ima end it
cold valve
why is everyone complaining|| about the boss taking your items and using them against you? i mean he is the FINAL boss he is supposed to be good and challenging....i just dont see why not||
alpine sedge
chrome hedge
Teammates about to get the succ.
ivory depot
why is everyone complaining|| about the boss taking your items and using them against you? i mean he is the FINAL boss he is supposed to be good and challenging....i just dont see why not||
its actually really cool and fun, its just that it has issues with trapping people in proc chains or inflicting bleed stacks, resulting in near instakills
tired axle
the devs didn't inted it to be a difficult phase and a lot of poeple aren't goin for strong runs now @cold valve
ivory depot
i havent experienced it myself but ive heard it gets quite stupid
cold valve
doenst matter..it supposed to be hard i guess at least
modest talon
are both artificers secondary good?
tired axle
yeah
cold valve
yeah true
tired axle
nice
ivory depot
gj
lunar cedar
also I like vase more now
tired axle
watch him die to the escape
ivory depot
haha yes
lunar cedar
:DDDDD i wll hover to entrance 😄
ivory depot
hover does not equal speed lel
in fact all you have for speed is a single hoove
it may be close
tired axle
this is gonna be fun to watch
chrome hedge
Hover does equal speed, in a way. You can take a direct path to the ship without dealing with any ground blasts of Void Reavers.
lunar cedar
tired axle
well... fuck
ivory depot
sad
ivory depot
?
frosty terrace
mul-T just leaves to recharge, he's chilling
lunar cedar
the "and so she left..." message
ivory depot
no but what is the message
lunar cedar
And so she left, in love with a new passion: to explore
frosty terrace
that's nice
ivory depot
captains one is pretty good as well
lunar cedar
i really thought she's a unique explorer tho
chrome hedge
...and so [Captain] left, having gained a bunch of thirsty fanboys
frosty terrace
engineer was "more machine than man" or something about circuits
cold valve
what was huntress line again
lunar cedar
More steel and circuits than man, was Engi
chrome hedge
-her soul still on the planet
cold valve
oh yes
languid yarrow
And so she left, her soul remaining on the planet 
ivory depot
cold valve
those lines are so sinister and mysterious.. i like it
lunar cedar
i bet commando is with everything but his humanity
ivory depot
yep\
cold valve
huntress gang rise up
frosty terrace
huntress is pretty depressing one yeah
modest talon
if i freeze people as artficer I see some hp bar if i go past that and damage past that does it execute ?
lunar cedar
😦
ivory depot
lunar cedar
so just like in Ror1
ivory depot
yeah
cold valve
i mean her soul isnt related to her personality / skills it would be better if the line is related to those things
lunar cedar
with the old survs
tired axle
@modest talon yeah
chrome hedge
...and so he left, with everything but his band procs.
frosty terrace
F
cold valve
ffs can you put those lines under spoilers?
marsh monolith
So does anything happen when you beat Mithrix with captain on monsoon?
lunar cedar
I wonder about loader's line at the end
ivory depot
ill have to do that
ivory depot
maybe?
lunar cedar
i actually forgot it anyway 😄
marsh monolith
Oh you don't get captains skin from obliteration?
ivory depot
no you do but you also get it for victory
tired axle
both work
ivory depot
and victory is the true chad way to finish
marsh monolith
Interesting.
lunar cedar
i havent tried obliteration in 1.0 yet
marsh monolith
Can you make the item steal phase easy with please forgive me dolls?
ivory depot
neither have i lel
lunar cedar
wonder what happens to your dude then.
ivory depot
i think its the same
marsh monolith
If you throw them down while you still have your items?
tired axle
yeah
ivory depot
it works with engi turrets, but if you pick up an item while forgive me is up than it will start using it too, so... maybe?
tired axle
especially with knives
spark narwhal
rip run
ivory depot
yeeep
frosty terrace
how does obliteration work now? is the celestial portal random?
ivory depot
wait the big projectiles from chimera wisps have hp? huh
no its exactly the same as before
lunar cedar
Your internal organs have failed.
even on drizzle, I clenched at phase 2 with artificer
deft breach
i have been killed by frost relic more than any other item i think
spark narwhal
yeah but I just shot all my primary shots sooo....
none of my skills were charged so I couldn't even hit the projectile.
marsh monolith
Hey @tired axle so what are all the kill effects? I mentioned the dolls but I feel like maybe I am missing something.
ivory depot
and thats why i dont play arti
marsh monolith
Also sorry for pinging.
deft breach
i walked next to a clay pot and my ceremonial dagger killed something and activated frost relic and the clay pot 1 shot me
lunar cedar
one time, my run ended while in Void Fields. Bc enemies grabbed TESLA at the end. you can imagine what happened next.
killed by clay pot
rapid marsh
I'm legally obligated to use this shrine, right?
tired axle
@marsh monolith i just use willow, gas and daggers
ivory depot
yes
tired axle
just need a lot of them
tired axle
@rapid marsh what happened?
deft breach
he ruined his run
rapid marsh
I could ruin it
sharp zenith
You have to use the shrine
lunar cedar
nah i bet not
sharp zenith
Now
deft breach
you have to
lunar cedar
You must.
ivory depot
i once had order shrine give me a good build!
once
out of the like
7-ish times ive done it
maybe more
sharp zenith
If you don’t we will all die
tired axle
you should
rapid marsh
Place your bets
if someone guesses all the item lineups correctly I'll venmo you $5 lmao
sharp zenith
Someone is holding me at gunpoint if you don’t use the shrine things will get messy
unkempt marsh
hey where do I ask about mods? Im having trouble downloading bandit
rapid marsh
not here lmao, go to the modding discord
deft breach
you think that if the final boss doesnt ||steal your items|| in phase 3, you just ||lose them instead||, would that make for a better phase 3?
sharp zenith
Polyps, Monster Teeth, Brainstalks, Halycon Seed
lunar cedar
Stunning Grenade, Squid Polyp, Rejuv Rack, Blue item that shortens portal time
spark narwhal
why does he only have 1 billion lunar coins?
lunar cedar
and Jellyfish trophy.
sharp zenith
SPEEEEED
tired axle
oh god
ivory depot
imma say... slug, razorwire, aegis, perforator
lunar cedar
Samoc
rapid marsh
I heard, you like old war stealth kits
ivory depot
welp
lunar cedar
Sanic* but goddamn
sharp zenith
THAT HEALTH THO
sharp zenith
Honestly the pearls save it
lunar cedar
28 PEARLS? wooot
ivory depot
that might actually be viable...
sharp zenith
You can get hit once and be invisible forever
lunar cedar
hold the shit up. Does shrine of order make blue item in pearls ?
royal phoenix
the disc can prob one-shot most things
sharp zenith
You can get free hits
ivory depot
hold the shit up. Does shrine of order make blue item in pearls ?
no