sniper's gay
#gd2-nullified
dull ingot
frosty terrace
I guess the winning recipe for monsoon is to just go faster...I keep losing because my damage falls off and I get overwhelmed
analog karma
if you can optimize it to get under 5 minutes per stage you're doing good
ivory depot
wish me luck, last time i did a noloop noartifacts monsoon run on huntress, this time im doing:
no secret stages, no looping, no lunars, no artifacts, monsoon, on huntress.
analog karma
huntress
You're going too easy on yourself, smh
full gale
Commando or Rex idk
ivory depot
rex
did you just suggest
Rex
full gale
Idk man
dull ingot
rex is kinda strong
ivory depot
yeah commando would probably be harder
full gale
Artificer then
dull ingot
he used to be the best
ivory depot
rex is still very strong
dull ingot
artificer is pretty strong as long as u can distance urself
ivory depot
ig ill take commando
ivory depot
aight commando no loop no artifacts no secret stages no lunars monsoon run time
dull ingot
have fun
full gale
Gl hf
sharp edge
tf Mitrix didn't give my items back when I hit him? I wasted like 1.5 hours, kited him like a god and he just put my stuff in his pockets and never gave it back
full gale
Although "hf" is probably false
ivory depot
did you dmg him before he took them?
fervent sentinel
all my homies hate captain, all my homies wanted HAN-D
echo knoll
I just beat the game on monsoon with no artifacts and no looping. Got extremely lucky getting red items, but I did have TWO interstellar desk plants.
ivory depot
yeah that dmg doesnt count towards it
ivory depot
this was my noartifacts no loop monsoon run
sharp edge
dozens of time
ivory depot
thats... weird.
echo knoll
On that same run, the only items I got back from mithrix before killing him was Ceremonial Dagger, Will o' Wisp, and Shield Gen.
ivory depot
did you just dmg him a ton while he succed?
dull ingot
do you die when you beat the boss?
ivory depot
no?
full gale
No you end up escaping bro
dull ingot
hmmmm
ivory depot
well
unless you are too slow
echo knoll
ivory depot
nice.
dull ingot
can't wait till they update nintendo version
full gale
^
dull ingot
u can actually hit him while hes taking ur items
echo knoll
Didn't even use the scrap glitch to get all those reds. Just extremely lucky.
full gale
Man am I glad they gave us a distance in meters
dull ingot
and do a weird thing were you dont actually lose em
plucky comet
bruh, i got 3 legendaries from small chests in a row what are the odds of that?
ivory depot
1/1000000 i think
uneven ravine
Yo I'm stuck on the moon where all the exchange pods are. Is there literally no way back?
dull ingot
scrap glitch?
uneven ravine
I'm right next to the final boss and I cannot get back on the path.
uneven ravine
Ridiculous.
dull ingot
unless maybe ur using command?
echo knoll
@full gale Files indicate that all survivors run at the same speed, unless you are of course talking about their mobility abilities as well.
uneven ravine
Engi. No mobility abilities.
ivory depot
are there hopoo feathers in the cauldrons?
dull ingot
u need 3
uneven ravine
No, it took my feathers for a red.
fickle sand
Didn't comedy island get fixed in the patch
full gale
I'm curious to see how tast they move with stuff like energy drinks, goat hoofs and quails
dull ingot
comedy island???
full gale
But I guess some simple calculations would do the trick
echo knoll
Comedy island has been fixed.
fickle sand
It's the cauldron island on the moon
dull ingot
what the hell is comedy island
ivory depot
have you not updated to the patch selecko?
dull ingot
kind of a dumb name
fickle sand
Where you could soft lock your game
dull ingot
aaaaagh
uneven ravine
I mean, I thought it had been updated.
fickle sand
Got called comedy island cause it traps players
echo knoll
@dull ingot Comedy island is the cauldron island on commencement where two characters get soft locked if they don't have mobility items.
uneven ravine
God fucking damnit dude. That's an hour gone. Guess I'll reset.
dull ingot
doesnt really explain the name tho
echo knoll
Or well, they used to. Island is no longer a respawn point.
uneven ravine
I did. It puts me back on the island.
ivory depot
well
fickle sand
Have you updated the game today
If you didn't close the game and update since the patch you would still be trapped
untold coyote
shove a consumed dio into the scrapper and watch the magic
ivory depot
dont
fickle sand
What's it do?
ivory depot
say goodbye to the scrapper
civic nexus
How do you get your items back from Mitrix?
ivory depot
damage him
civic nexus
Do you know how much exactly?
civic nexus
Done succing? What do you mean?
ivory depot
after he has ALL your items.
fickle sand
I am unsure if the amount of damage or the percent of his health is the important factor
ivory depot
i think its the amount of damage, as if you damage him before he finishes succing you wont get all your items back before hes dead
but if you dont dmg him before he finishes succing youll get them all back before he dies
fickle sand
Can you scrap tonic afflictions Sheepie?
ivory depot
no
fickle sand
Sadness
Also it's very rude Mithrix doesn't take them
Would've been hilarious to give him immediate kidney failure
ivory depot
he leaves you to suffer from your own alchohol addiction
it was your choice, now you face the consequences
analog karma
as mithrix gets 20 tonic afflictions and dies
worldly mantle
fickle sand
Luckily I went in having a next to 0 cd capacitor instead of alcohol
My friend got screwed though
ivory depot
well
frick
fervent turtle
Just barely completed the Void Fields, that was amazing
ivory depot
if that overloading elder lemurian wasnt there i would be alive end me
tepid kraken
Does anyone else feel like the new character is really powerful?
As in, better than any other survivor atm. For monsoon anyway
tepid kraken
You can kind of guarantee that you have an amazing early game with him, which is more or less what dictates a run.
ivory depot
his microbot def needs a nerf, and i kind of agree
tepid kraken
Yeah, 1.5 second delay might be reasonable, or not scaling with attack speed.
ivory depot
and fix the vengeance glitch to get multiple lel
sleek torrent
h
wise bronze
ok so be honest in your responces, how many of you have actually killed the final boss on monsoon
tepid kraken
Either that or have it drop normally since it can scale. Someone suggested making it a boss drop from solus control unit, which would be cool, and it’d fit.
I’ve done it on mul-t with sacrifice + command, then captain with no artifacts
ivory depot
ok so be honest in your responces, how many of you have actually killed the final boss on monsoon
ive done it 3 times, once without artifacts or looping
actually ive never done any looping for him
wise bronze
see ive tried twice with arti and huntress, died both times on the 3rd phase
tbf with huntress i was going in blind
fervent turtle
I just finally managed to find the portal in sky meadow, just to get one shooted by one of those flying moon things
tepid kraken
I haven’t looped for him either, I don’t have the time for that :c
ivory depot
3rd phase is pretty stupid, they need to nerf the column attack cause currently the strategy is just run up to one of the pillars so he cant physically hurt you
fervent turtle
No wonder I couldn't find it, the particles are blue and it looks different
ivory depot
yeah you gotta adapat to the blue now
marsh monolith
Anyone got tips for Mithrix?
silk zealot
git gud @marsh monolith
marsh monolith
Always just get one shotted once he steals my items.
ivory depot
4th phase is easy dont believe the propoganda
wise bronze
@ivory depot see the problem i keep having is getting overwhelmed by the flyers
silk zealot
just go into the fight with less items.
or enough that you get them back before he can use them.
ivory depot
...on phase 2? use the colomns to your advantage if you are struggling
wise bronze
nah phase 3
ivory depot
what flyers on phase 3
wise bronze
the ones he spawns
tepid kraken
My only advice for phase 3 is to have a preon ready
ivory depot
its just mithrix and he occasionally summons the walking chimera
tepid kraken
If ya can’t dodge, ya might as well end it asap
wise bronze
nah he spawns flying ones too
ivory depot
theres no wisp chimera in 3
wise bronze
there absolutely is
slow knot
ive never seen one on phase 3
ivory depot
i have never seen it happen, and also the wiki agrees with me
wise bronze
do i gotta get back there just to it
tepid kraken
oh, I’m thinking of the last phase mb
ivory depot
and apparently magilouser does too
ivory depot
sure, sure.
wise bronze
ok HUMOR me and pretend they do spawn there (because they do), i just get overwhelmed trying to dodge them while at the same time distancing myself from mithryx, and in the mean time hes spawning more, i just cant get enough damage in while dodging
tepid kraken
The only time you’d see those is if you had happy mask or something :v
ivory depot
yeah..
tepid kraken
Well, I’ve been there only about 7 times, so I guess my sample pool is small
I’ll definitely think about it next time i go there 😅
wise bronze
idk maybe it was bugged or something? ive definately seen them tho. they game ended a strong artificer run
tepid kraken
But yeah, if they were there I can see that fight being nearly impossible if ya don’t have the right items
wise bronze
thats certainly how if felt lmao, it mainly consisted of me flying to ramps for most of the fight while trying to out run their gattling gun attack, and eventually like 3 were out at once so i just couldnt dodge the amount of fire they were putting on and all the while hardly being able to touch the ground cuz the good ol king of nothing was chasing me
opal plaza
Well, I hate the fact I chose Artificer, I almost beat the game
Have you guys beat the boss? I dont want to spoil anything
wise bronze
nope, not yet
going back in to try again to prove these fuckers wrong and show them that the flying ones spawn in phase 3
opal plaza
Ah, alright
terse herald
When I first got to the boss I was using Merc... the boss is melee so I obviously died
tepid kraken
lol, @tepid kraken if ya do get a screenshot or video cause it sounds kinda terrifying
terse herald
I feel that Visions is more needed than ever on Loader/Merc/Acrid to live Mithrix
wise bronze
@terse herald merc doesnt sound too terrible if you have visions and cool down reduction
can really take advantage of those i frames
compact wasp
mithrix instakilling you when you go in for melee: 😎
terse herald
I found it awful to Expose Mithrix since it takes like 1.5 seconds to get the combo off
wise bronze
i wouldnt even bother with expose on him
terse herald
You need those cooldown reductions though
wise bronze
im more talkin cool down reduction from like alien head
terse herald
That’s how you get the flow of chaining abilities
tepid kraken
Merc has innate double jump, so you could probably start the combo in the air and finish it on the boss
thorny anvil
I don't think meleeing him is impossible phase 1 or 2
terse herald
Most cooldown reduction that’s reliable is Backup Mag, too RNG to rely on reds
thorny anvil
the last one though can completely screw you depending on what items he takes though
tepid kraken
Still, boss sounds very sketchy on merc lol
half cargo
just use glass and shaped glass and one shot him with Preon :^)
terse herald
Meleeing isn’t impossible but it’s super hard
thorny anvil
I was able to get through it on loader but then I just lost because he instakilled me with nkuhanas last phase and I couldn't do anything
terse herald
Oh yeah, can we talk how Tesla Coil is a death sentence?
tepid kraken
Ya gotta have enough preon charges for each phase though :v
wise bronze
@terse herald thats fair but after the nerfs using him sounds to kill mythix and not getting like a 4 hour god run sounds like a joke lmao
terse herald
If you don’t scrap the Tesla and can’t use Preon/Captain/Fuel Cell combo to kill him before he gets it, you are gone.
thorny anvil
i've beaten him 2 times without looping or artifacts and honestly ever time I die I just sort of hate him more
tepid kraken
Well, if you know you have coil, then you should keep your distance
Picking it up on a melee character? Yeah, I can’t help you on that one lol
sleek torrent
Merc hasn't been nerfed, just changed to play a slightly different way
thorny anvil
i just sort of despise the fact that no matter what he can unconditionally one shot you off of really shaky hitboxes or bad interactions
terse herald
It seems that you’re only safe from coil on Arti or Loader
analog karma
I've beaten him on rain storm fucking easily. Just blitz with laoder, get a few bands, GG. on Monsoon that slight increase in health makes him a fucking nightmare
terse herald
Maybe MULT if you time utility right
wise bronze
@sleek torrent i think his health and regen nerfs outweigh the exposed status, which really seems kinda gimicky to begin with, by a pretty big chunk
analog karma
also, damage, damage actually matters when you blitze
thorny anvil
most characters shouldn't struggle against tesla
most don't even have to get in his range and he's not exactly fast in the last phase
i literally won on acrid by afking at the rim
terse herald
Monsoon is a nightmare to kill Mithrix - I haven’t tried on Drizle/Rainstorm but I’d imagine it’d be easier
wise bronze
^
analog karma
I just wanted to play Captain so, yeah
thorny anvil
rainstorm feels fine if a bit easy
analog karma
well, ofc rainstorm feels easy if you play primarily on monsoon
terse herald
most don't even have to get in his range and he's not exactly fast in the last phase
@thorny anvil that is very true - it seems he’s slowed down in phase 3 due to lacking a lot of his moves
thorny anvil
monsoon makes me want to die because he takes so little damage and you basically always lose if he hits you once
wise bronze
if i beat him on anything but monsoon i feel will lose everything that comprises my manhood
thorny anvil
- the sheer amount of HP makes him scale in the middle of his fight a ton
sleek torrent
@wise bronze His health and regen nerfs just make it more important to reduce his cooldowns, which he now has an active way of doing with no items, and not only that but working to get his cooldowns reduced buffs DPS since Exposed also deals 350% extra on top of any move
thorny anvil
I don't think the timer needs to stop, I just think he shouldn't scale
terse herald
But it makes it so so so much harder
thorny anvil
something that providence did lol
analog karma
tell me about this uh, Afk acrid strat tho
thorny anvil
I literally just stood on the outer ring of the arena and M2d him
When he spammed the spheres because I damaged him down to that point while he was taking items
sleek torrent
Merc can now deal 800% instead of 450%, and getting attack speed only means more frequent Exposed procs
thorny anvil
I was legit out of his range so he'd keep using an attack that did nothing
wise bronze
@sleek torrent yeah but that comes at the cost of having to stay within melee range without i frames for enough time to get 3 basic attacks off, really making you the exposed one lol
terse herald
@sleek torrent I don’t think that Exposed damage buff means much when Mercs attacks do so little damage
thorny anvil
So then acrid poison just did what acrid poison does and killed him in about a minute
It was a lame victory but a W nonetheless
wise bronze
you really have to build attack speed to get it to work anywhere near well
thorny anvil
No lunar items, artifacts, or looping required
terse herald
Imagine if you had blight instead lol @thorny anvil
sleek torrent
Merc has never hit harder than now, since the Exposed effect gives any move 350%+, which is more damage than his old M1 last hit entirely
thorny anvil
Poison damage didn't actually make items return
It only damaged the boss, not actually bring back items, only white damage seemed to do that
terse herald
My point is that 350% of a small damage doesn’t make much bigger damage
Poison damage didn't actually make items return
@thorny anvil DoT doesn’t have prof coefficient, so maybe that?
I’d imagine bleed wouldn’t either for instance
thorny anvil
Possibly but it being tired to coefficients instead of thresholds sounds really stupid
wise bronze
hes never hit harder, but his biggest points were his i frames, so intentionally having to stay in probably the worst postion you can be to an enemy (or cluster of enemies in most cases) while waiting to get 3 attacks off puts you in a horrible postion where you can get absolutely piled on
sleek torrent
Sure it does, the only people it wouldn't matter to is Loader and Artificer
wise bronze
past the first loop it seems hardly worth even mentioning
sleek torrent
Merc deals with enemies much better than before as well, since his M1 attacks keep him in the air if he hits an enemy and Exposed has no proc limit at all meaning large groups of enemies can have the Exposed effect procc'd on them and then just use his shift to hit them all
Maybe it's the way I play Merc, but I just find him pumping out much more damage
terse herald
I agree that getting Exposed on multiple enemies is extremely rewarding for the high risk but against single enemies (e.g. bosses) he doesn’t seem to flow as wel
I agree that against groups of enemies it’s high risk / high reward
sleek torrent
Against bosses, all he needs to do is stay off the ground with his M1, and repeatedly use Eviscerate
wise bronze
not only that but the area in which he swings isnt enough to expose most enemies in a large cluster, which again allows for massive damage not even mentioning the time he has to spend within melee range to apply exposed
sleek torrent
Merc doesn't suffer from being in melee range whatsoever, it's literally his best way to play
analog karma
I swear medkit is bonkers now
slate aurora
Just get heresy if you hate his m1 so much 
wise bronze
its absolutely not, the best way is to duck in and out using his dash and eviserate, wait for the cool down, and repeat
maybe tossing in his m2 if the situation calls for it
terse herald
All characters suffer from being in melee, it’s just that Merc has iframes to counter the innate danger
sleek torrent
That's the one of the worst ways to play Merc i've seen
terse herald
Just rely on a single lunar if you hate his m1 so much
@slate aurora ftfy
tepid kraken
Ranged mercenary build with slicing winds sounds meme worthy
wise bronze
@slate aurora implying i dont lol
tepid kraken
impractical for sure with his character changes now tho
wise bronze
the problem is now im getting none of the benifets of his "rework" (nerf), just the negatives
sleek torrent
That's because of the way you play, not Merc himself
terse herald
I like that Slicing Winds applies expose but it seems hard to capitalise on that - Haven’t used it though
minor cargo
wise bronze
its certainly less feasible now
(which kinda takes away from that whole "player agency" stuff they went on about lol)
tepid kraken
For high skilled players merc basically got only buffed ya
sleek torrent
Me neither, but I don't think the trade is worth it to use Slicing Winds
wise bronze
idk why they chose merc either, i feel like nobody was complaining about him
tepid kraken
since damage and mobility is what generally matters the most in ror
wise bronze
but the problem is he overall loses mobility by having to get so close in to apply exposed
tepid kraken
They chose to do that to merc since his playstyle wasn’t the way they intended anymore
sleek torrent
@tepid kraken thanks, took forever to get people to see
tepid kraken
I think it’s fine to have certain characters be more challenging than others
wise bronze
aside from using slicing winds, which pre nerf i didnt and only played 1 run where i did post nerf
sleek torrent
The devs mentioned that Merc was intended to be the hardest to play
terse herald
I don’t think anyone’s debating having higher skill floors
slate aurora
Anyone who does can go play huntress
tepid kraken
Yeah, the community mostly cares about balance over challenge
dapper kelp
Yo, why can't I use the captains abilities in the void fields?
terse herald
…
wise bronze
imagine using your brain and not using loader smh
tepid kraken
err, that’s what it seems like to me anyway
which is fair, but this isn’t a competitive game
terse herald
Yo, why can't I use the captains abilities in the void fields?
alternate dimension I.e. lore reasons
tepid kraken
it’s good to have a variety
dapper kelp
Wait, really?
wise bronze
alternate dimension I.e. dumb reasons
@terse herald
dapper kelp
I.....honestly thought it was some kind of glitch wtf
wise bronze
ftfy
terse herald
dumb reasons
@wise bronze wasn’t denying that lmao
tepid kraken
He can’t access his ship within another dimension
dapper kelp
Why the hell does he get his abilities removed? I go to the void fields like every run for free shit!
sleek torrent
Lore
wise bronze
wasnt saying you were, really just wanted to make sure our friend here knew why
dapper kelp
Wow that is, really dumb :/
tepid kraken
He’s still easier to play in void fields than melee characters though
terse herald
Gun go boom
sleek torrent
yup
wise bronze
that doesnt mean they should remove the ability tho
terse herald
sad merc/loader noises
tepid kraken
His microbots are just so powerful lol
dapper kelp
Gameplay > Lore. Who the fuck cares if it doesnt make since for his ship to fire into another dimension, just give me my damn abilities
wise bronze
^^^
tepid kraken
???
terse herald
Speaking of how do you get the log for the bots?
tepid kraken
It brings a new challenge
dapper kelp
If by new challenge you mean just not going to the void fields I guess? Not very fun that he's the only character with this issue though because "LORE"
wise bronze
@tepid kraken ror2 is not going to be only elder lumarians and youre capped at 1 hp because it brings new challenge
tepid kraken
Gameplay-wise why should only engineer be able to access the abandoned aqueducts door solo?
that is not at all what I am implying at you know it
terse herald
jUSt uSe pOtS 4Head
wise bronze
im being hyperbolic but the arguement is still there
terse herald
Yea that is really stupid that engi is the only reliable option
dapper kelp
Wait is that is ALL other dimensions? Cause the same like ,disconnected wire logo showed up in the bizaar shop
terse herald
Yea
tepid kraken
To be fair, it’s the player’s choice to go to the hidden realms
dapper kelp
:I
terse herald
Can’t use it in Gold Coast either
dapper kelp
Wait, REALLY?!
wise bronze
yup lul
dapper kelp
What the fuck Hoppo XD
Well guess I'm not playing captain until they fix that. Shame, he was kinda fun too
tepid kraken
I’d agree that it kinda sucks in the gilded coast though
terse herald
Also hacking a Shrine of Chance or Altar of Gold is super satisfying
tepid kraken
He’s really powerful though
dapper kelp
Yeah but thats a really big hindrance. I go to the void fields every run for the free shit and guaranteed red item
Back to MUL-T I guess
tepid kraken
He has a guaranteed great early game, which is what dictates the run normally
terse herald
I try and go to the Void Fields but always dip out when Elder Lemurians get teddy bears xD
dapper kelp
I mean yeah
wise bronze
multi is pretty good in void fields tho imo
dapper kelp
Not having access to his most damaging ability or his health beacons is pretty awful
I got completely screwed by a single elite enemy cause it just had too much health
sleek torrent
Also, something I forgot to mention earlier, is that while labbing "combos" for Merc I could get Exposed to proc before the next dash use, so it's possible to chain stuns and Exposed on tankier enemies
terse herald
Haven’t actually used MUL-T in void fields but I imagine Scrap Rocket would be good there
analog karma
well, beacon is kinda whatever when you gotta move between cells anyway
terse herald
the bing bang pow is a really good source of damage
wise bronze
if ya'll want lore reason's why not just say "oh he's got a portal device that allows him to create mini portals to the dimension he's in thus allowing him to call air strikes and his beacon" done. boom. easy.
dapper kelp
I honestly give zero shits about lore or practicality. If you start bringing that into the game then you can throw alot of mechanics out of the window
Just give me the damn abilities
terse herald
Gameplay over lore
wise bronze
^
dapper kelp
100%
wise bronze
i honestly think they'll fix it in some upcoming patch, but it's kinda sad he's stuck this way during launch
terse herald
I kinda hope they don’t stick to their guns on this one
wise bronze
thats my big worry about a lot of the changes, that they'll stick to their guns in places they shouldnt
terse herald
It would be so cool to hack the Halycon Beacons or, I don’t know, anything in void fields
wise bronze
like bands for example and not being able to even proc them on certain characters
terse herald
Wait you can’t proc them on some characters???
wise bronze
to my knowledge commando is the only character
tho other characters only have 1 or so ability where it can proc
terse herald
that really sucks
wise bronze
yup, again hope they dont stick to their guns on that one
terse herald
I think Rising Thunder on Merc and Frenzied Leap on Acrid are the only abilities that can proc it on them
Though, crit should count to proc it?
sleek torrent
Something I found while labbing Merc's Exposed combos looks like this when put in numbers: 390% (full M1 combo) + 650% (Exposed and Blinding Assault) x 3 = 3120% with one full Blinding Assault use. And this happens much more often with more attack speed as well.
wise bronze
that might be the case, idk i didnt look into it all that much honestly, i just know a bunch of people were saying it cant trigger on commando
sleek torrent
Also with the changes to how attack speed effects Merc now, it happens faster as well as more often
wise bronze
and even if you do need to build crit, it shouldnt be the case where an item like bands require you to build crit on certain characters and not others
terse herald
I do like the attack speed changes on Merc
wise bronze
i would almost be find with the merc changes if his health nerfs werent nerfed so drastically
sleek torrent
That's why it's important to find out how to properly utilize his full kit, which is why I'm labbing it
I haven't found it harder to survive with his health changes, but I will say that he isn't as brainless anymore
sleek torrent
Which does make him harder to play, which was the devs intent in the first place
wise bronze
idk i just dont see why it was nessecary, why make him harder to play in particular?
terse herald
Maybe if we give it a bit of time we’ll get more used to Merc
sleek torrent
Because that's what the devs wanted, a harder than normal to play character that is very strong when used right
Every character has strong and weakpoints, Merc's just wasn't clear from the start like they wanted
wise bronze
well i mean most characters can be "very strong when used right"
junior hearth
nah, they're just Genji fanboys 
humble otter
Anyone think the mired urn should be lunar item?
terse herald
Honestly not really
wise bronze
@humble otter nah just make it so that it doesnt affect allies lol
sleek torrent
I guess the devs just didn't see that polarity in Merc enough, and gave him some unique mechanics and changes to make it more apparent to people "Hey, why aren't doing so well with Merc?"
terse herald
I like it as a boss item, just patch the ally sapping
wise bronze
^
humble otter
yeah true makes sense
terse herald
Though, I’ll be sad to see turret sapping and Beetle guard sapping go
Those are fun in single player
wise bronze
^^^
terse herald
It’s just that multi-player makes it awful
wise bronze
@sleek torrent i feel like i-frames were his big unique ability tho, what other character has that aside from maybe huntress with her blinks? if they felt like people werent doing well with him why not exclusively give him the exposed ability then?
tepid kraken
Razor wire plus mire is fun
sleek torrent
I don't find flat gameplay very fun, like just holding down M1 and using abilities when they come back while keeping your distance, which is why I chose Merc in the first place. Especially now since he isn't as tanky, his M1 doesn't do as much damage, and I can actively reduce my cooldowns for I-frames, his other powerful mechanic
tepid kraken
Makes for good interaction with engi despite being counter intuitive
sleek torrent
But the purpose of this lab is to find out everything that works differently now
wise bronze
just adding the exposed buff would still reduce the flatness of his gameplay, and i could also see an arguement for a more minor nerf to his tankiness but it just feels like so much
twin marsh
Anybody else feel kinda let down in regards to the general story and atmosphere of this game compared to RoR1?
sleek torrent
Maybe they should increase the regen, so he can get back in the fight faster
wise bronze
@twin marsh a bit but its not as terrible as it could have been
sleek torrent
I can see that
wise bronze
@sleek torrent that works well enough, he doesnt need high max health to work well so just increasing his regen would make a big difference
tepid kraken
There were definitely some major oversights but, the game is still incredibly fun and addicting
twin marsh
The events of this game felt....pointless. Why did they stick around? Why did we blow up the moon? Who even is Mithrax, and why should we care?
sleek torrent
Exactly, but not lot's of people think that way since they don;t do well with Merc, especially now, and declare him nerfed
tepid kraken
Well, there’s a lot to the lore
The general idea is that the contact light was holding one of providence’s teleporters for one reason or another
terse herald
Why did we blow up the moon?
I can imagine Eggman’s announcement - “IM PISSING ON THE MOON YOU IDIOTS”
tepid kraken
And that made everything snow ball
twin marsh
There's a lot to the lore, but all of it's already happened by the time the RoR2 crew gets there, there's no reason for anything.
tepid kraken
I can’t say I remember too accurately, but I’m pretty sure they’re there to investigate what happened
sleek torrent
I'll continue to lab out Merc though and try to get more people to see "the light" that comes with his changes. That's all I want to do, since I find him very fun to play and want others to see that instead of "I-frames and a sword".
twin marsh
Yeah, they got there, found the Contact Light wasn't there anymore, and neither were any survivors.
terse herald
Captain’s log says it’s a rescue mission
tepid kraken
It isn’t as neat and clear as the first game I agree but it still works out imo
If it’s a rescue mission and they found no signs of life then that seems kind of conflicting
I ought to look more into the lore now that the game has been released, along with many more logs
copper stirrup
anyone crash as captain when you pick up gestard of drowned?????
sleek torrent
Maybe the Captain knows more than he lets on, and that's why he bothers in the first place
tepid kraken
What active item did you have?
copper stirrup
gestard of drowned
tepid kraken
That’s be a neat sentiment
wise bronze
@sleek torrent thats the impression i got lol
well alright good by lmao, time to try and actually unlock captain
twin marsh
Plus, there's no real buildup or payoff with the finale. The Primordial Teleporter spits you out in a place you don't recognize, that hasn't been mentioned or even hinted at, and you fight some jerk with a big hammer that doesn't seem related to much of anything, and when he dies the moon blows up.
copper stirrup
when i was captain and pick up gestar of the drowned it immeditatly crashed my game twice
tepid kraken
Good luck!
terse herald
Good luck unlocking Captain!
twin marsh
You enter with no reason to accomplish anything, and indeed leave without really accomplishing anything.
wise bronze
@tepid kraken the real rng is if those fucking flyers appear again, which is a win win reguardless. either i get captain or im right
terse herald
Everyone calls the dunestrider move the “big succ” so what do we call it when Mithrix steals our items
twin marsh
The Big Yoink
terse herald
That’s also a big succ of sorts
Idk doesn’t have the same ring to it
I’ve been considering “Item Yeet”
twin marsh
I mean, it's more of a yoink than a yeet.
glad rivet
I just died after clicking the celestial portal on my monsoon Captain run 😥
terse herald
F
glad rivet
Second time now I got it but failed haha, the first time I had Beads of Fealty and didn't realize I was going to lose half my abilities because screw Captain I guess
twin marsh
I just hope that the story gets more fleshed out in some way in future updates, because right now it all feels like the most distant of afterthoughts.
twin marsh
Yeah, I feel like it may have been a mistake to call this release 1.0
There's still stuff missing.
terse herald
well that’s all for me - it’s almost 3am
cobalt aspen
Imagine removing skills on a survivor in certain levels
sleek torrent
JoJo
modest trout
Does anyone have sheet music (for the piano section) of the Commencment stage?
warm jewel
RIP all those who got stuck on soup island
warm rune
Mom said it's my turn on the dakka
silver plover
acrid want say helo
merry nexus
my brain momentarily shrank to the size of a peanut and i gave myself tesla as merc before fighting the final boss
and my equip is a spinel tonic bc i couldn't find anything better 
warm rune
Oh honey....
Anyway, looks like since I got the alt skin and beat the game with Mul-t I gotta add him to the role list
merry nexus
YO
THE VERY FIRST THING HE GAVE ME BACK WAS TESLA
LFG
now i just gotta biff the fight accidentally and lose anyway
chrome hedge
This felt like it took forever...
warm rune
You got this bro
@chrome hedge I'm also concerned at how long it's taking me to find one
warm rune
You don't got this bro
gilded marsh
After finding one in a run, i found 2 in one stage
merry nexus
he ducked to use his sphere attack which caused blinding assault to miss
deft breach
are the connections in this game p2p?
merry nexus
and ofc i was dashing groundwards so i ate a sphere immediately
dark radish
Just realized how fun the desk plant is when you have forgive me please (the on kill doll)
static echo
I just realised how busted resupply is depending on equipment
I got preon stage 1 and used the resupply to two-times the boss
white wedge
How do you get to the Obelisk now? Cause I always find the portal to the moon
static echo
if you interact with the prongs you can loop
white wedge
Ah much thank
chrome hedge
Or you could Artifact portal.
upbeat ruin
so is it intended that you might not be able to trigger the bands on certain loadouts? im playing commando right now and ive got no way to trigger it.
built in at least
chrome hedge
yeah it isn't the free DPS for-all item it was before
static echo
you can use frag on commando to trigger the bands now
upbeat ruin
still feels a bit weird to be able to lock yourself out of a item before you even start a run
like i know there are ways to get around it
chrome hedge
@dark radish https://i.redd.it/08x92fxr1qg51.png
barren meadow
Did anyone else find the new survivor lackluster? Like I really enjoy his diversity and he has some cool skills. But he feels like he's always a step behind.
narrow sparrow
yeah but whats the new red item cause i didnt think they added any
restive rampart
The lack of mobility feels really rough
wise bronze
so is there any way at all to leave a moment but fractured? including cheats?
i have a run i intended to take to the final boss but i fat fingered on the celestial portal
chrome hedge
@wise bronze approach the Obelisk close enough for the prompt, but go down and to the right of it to port to next level
fading socket
you interact with the obelisk once and a portal appears
flint pulsar
If you hit the obelisk once, a portal back to the planet will appear lower on the platform
wise bronze
oh really?
narrow sparrow
yep
fading socket
the run only ends if you interact with it a second time
wise bronze
nice that they included that, thanks yall
barren meadow
His utility is slow and stuff often just moves out of it and does kinda sad damage compared to say Loader. M2 feels entirely useless to me. I love his passive but wish it came with some offense as well.
barren meadow
I'd much rather see his special be able to deploy one of the super drones.
narrow sparrow
whats the red item
ohhhhh
its captains eye
how do i unlock in in the logbook
its all I need and its annoying me
dark radish
@chrome hedge nice
chrome hedge
defeat the Umbra of the Captain
urban pendant
Starting to think the final boss may be impossible on multiplayer lol
rancid coral
Has anyone won with merc on monsoon
Even getting to stage 5 in 25-30 minutes it spawns sets of 4-5 brass contraptions/lizards at a time and only my best runs can get to the boss
rancid coral
I've been close
but I've been 1 shot on stage 4 or 5 maybe 10 times today
chrome hedge
not sayint it makes sense, but that's the only way it'sk nown to drop
real otter
so how would i get gesture of the drowned with the new update do i have to wait till i loops which is what stage now or can i use the lunar world wish thingy
red echo
@urban pendant anyone tbh
chrome hedge
Titanic Plains after looping @real otter. Or if you're lucky a Prismatic Trial will have it
rancid coral
actually do you guys find the game harder in general now?
I swear I was getting obliterations on monsoon fairly regularly before update, now it's hell
real otter
what stage will that be?
urban pendant
6
red echo
the game is objectively slightly harder now, difficulty scaling went up 10% on all difficulties
real otter
but i went to six and it didnt loop
chrome hedge
then you didn't align the teleporter to loop
fading socket
the effect of the 10% increase is definitely most noticeable on monsoon as well
random laurel
malachites at 25 minutes oh no no no
real otter
ohhh yea i heard something about that how would i align it?
random laurel
interact with the prongs
real otter
ahh okay thankss
fading socket
they'll move to resemble the normal teleporter when you do that
rain reef
ok seriously, whats the strategy to beating the final phase of the boss fight? Every time I get to it I just die. tried like 5 different strats.
rain reef
time the jumps to what?
thick sage
you mean after you defeat him?
rain reef
the phase where he takes your items, i just cant seem to get a hang on it
thick sage
oh
boreal spade
Depending on your build, you can also hammer him down before he does the thing
thick sage
again, just jump and run in circles
look at the energy balls with attention, they always follow the same pattern
rain reef
so they have the same movement pattern every time?
rain reef
yeah i had never seen them before this one so i tried to counter the gun with the pillars around the edge
shut fern
does anyone know if we're gonna be getting crossplay with console?
thick sage
no idea, they haven't mentioned anything i think
rain reef
so probly not
shut fern
damnnn alright ty
rain reef
and thanks chris
chrome hedge
I just realized... I haven't encountered a single Scrapper or 3D Printer this run:
You'd think by stage 39... yeah
shut fern
you cant get printers or scrappers with command
true roost
@rain reef I find equipment is a life saver in final stage, particularly preon, can take out ALOT of his health right as he starts the bigg succ
chrome hedge
oh, okay. makes sense
I didn't start playing Command until I wanted to stack 57Leaf for these last few monster logs
true roost
Why do you have 138 keys with command
static echo
guaranteed legendary
true roost
I did not know that thank you
static echo
the more rusty keys you stack the higher chance for a higher rarity
full star
I really don't like ||Mythrix, King of Nothing|| the new final boss
he feels like he should be in Furi, or something similar, not Risk of Rain. He doesn't really belong
It also feels like some characters have a lot more trouble against him than others, and the ability to fly or hover indefinitely completely invalidates him?
slim raptor
I have discovered infinite flight.
dull ingot
Damn lost to final with arti
||the succ got me||
almost had him too 😔
||wasnt able to spam my height boost without my purities||
does anyone know what is the lunar item on captain that makes him have a ton of air stikes
strikes
purity probably
at the cost of your proc chain
no
yo
does no one know the item
purity reduces cooldown so thats probably it
unless theres another lunar that does it
umbral field
purity stack on merc is ver ver fun
slim raptor
Same as what happened with huntress: Game fails to realize its visions and you get like 50 Ballistae / Air Strike shots
dull ingot
wew
odd widget
^
dull ingot
compelled to experiment with that now
umbral field
infinite i frames
dull ingot
the only time i was able to beat final was with gesture + kill me + daggers
its such a stupid combo, does that even work anymore?
slim raptor
Yes and no
dull ingot
shit nearly crashed my game cause i was spawning in a doll every second 
slim raptor
I think theres a doll cap now
dull ingot
thats good
slim raptor
Void fields do be kinda sick from out here
lunar badge
Can I get an honest answer here on why people think the final boss' last stage is hard? I found it to be pathetically easy, and I don't get how people are having problems with it (if anything, I'd like to see the boss be harder). Honestly, I want to know what's up.
vocal zenith
will there be more characters added down the line ?
tepid meteor
the captain really sucks. RIP Risk of Rain
fading socket
@lunar badge personally, I've struggled with it cuz he takes all your mobility and bursting him down before he does is kinda situational for me
@vocal zenith probably, if I had to guess
there will be post-launch content for sure, and I imagine that new playable characters will be a part of that
@tepid meteor what's so bad about him? and how does it spell the death of risk of rain?
tepid meteor
im just kidding
vocal zenith
the captain really sucks. RIP Risk of Rain
@tepid meteor i actually like him alot and find him strong
tepid meteor
but he is lackluster
fading socket
I personally think he's fun, but to each his own
I get some of the complaints i've been seeing around here though
mild bolt
Cap is great, love getting the hack and rushing super hard
fading socket
especially about his utility and special being unusable in other dimensions and the secondary being practically useless past like stage 3
@mild bolt lol I actually kinda get sad when I get Siren's Call with him
lunar badge
@fading socket
Yeah, he takes your mobility, but he also moves super slow. Just shoot him. Each time you do, you get a stack of items back.
mild bolt
Why?
vocal zenith
i find his secondary nice to pin strong bois and rain down with the orbital strike
keen jackal
so what's the strat to defeating ||Mithrix||?
We've wiped instantly to phase 4 like 3 times
lunar badge
My strat was just be really fast
fading socket
Getting a completely free legendary versus having to fight AWU for it
mild bolt
I’ve found Cap to have some insane damage just because of how fast you can go
lunar badge
Then on the final stage, just hit him
keen jackal
also shooting him isn't ||releasing our items yet||
lunar badge
It wasn't very hard at all
vocal zenith
We've wiped instantly to phase 4 like 3 times
@keen jackal peak and shoot was my strat, if i get to close he just mows me on monsoon
mild bolt
I mean yeah he’s obviously better on depths
but im so used to sirens due to mostly playing duo
fading socket
From what I've seen, your chance of getting items is dependent on how much you can hurt him in a certain amount of time
lunar badge
I beat the final dude with 20 hooves and like 4 quails using Loader
keen jackal
lmao
fading socket
but some characters are gonna struggle with that for various reasons
keen jackal
with base hero no items? That's cursed as hell
stoic geyser
Ploops are you playing with artifacts?
keen jackal
we literally get 0 items back before he wipes us, IDK what we're doing wrong
lunar badge
Dude, a barely charged punch from Loader without even running got me items
mild bolt
Thats actually really smart @lunar badge
fading socket
it's been a struggle with Captain for me cuz he steals your microbot so you can't use your probes and Cap doesn't have any mobility so dodging is harder for him
mild bolt
Hadn’t though about that
lunar badge
@stoic geyser
Only artifact I was using was Command to get speed items, mainly
tepid meteor
You also can't use caps abilities in the void
mild bolt
Yeah that one is a yikes
lunar badge
See, your problem is that you're playing Cap
fading socket
yeah, which logically makes sense but isn't very fun
mild bolt
M1 still best though on him
stoic geyser
:/ atrifact of command makes everything a joke.
mild bolt
Petition for a slider on command so we can choose the percentage chance of a command essence drop
i want 3% of items dropped to be command essence when i turn on command not 100%
vocal zenith
is there a way to set sprint to hold
mild bolt
just tap it and it continues aslong as you hold w
vocal zenith
i don't mind toggle all these months but hold seems so much better
mild bolt
oh wait
fading socket
I don't think Cap is bad, I just think Mitten's 4th phase specifically sucks for him
mild bolt
im stupid
vocal zenith
dw haha xD
mild bolt
why would you want hold though. Gonna wear out your pinky my man
fading socket
prolly so that you don't have to hit it every time you use m1 on any characters that aren't Huntress or Merc
or any time you hit S
mild bolt
Id rather hit it here and there than continously hold it but maybe thats just me
fading socket
same here
mild bolt
I just wish there was some settings for the artifact like with swarms what if i want 3x or 4x spawns
lunar badge
So you might be able to choose items, but as soon as you stop to choose one, you die
mild bolt
what if i want half my items to be command or only 1%
Just more options, same artifacts but with adjustable settings
Don’t think it would be too hard to implement and it would be very nice to have
Cause i enjoy Command but at a certain point i wish it would just be back to normal. Which is why i want a slider. Then you can use command to either just add more consistency or to just meme and play around. 🤷🏼♂️
fading socket
@mild bolt got nothing better to do at the moment lol
I'm either everywhere or nowhere around here
lunar badge
If I'm being honest, going 3D was a mistake
fading socket
I like the 3D too
another benefit of it in my mind is that it doesn't make RoR1 obsolete, even though I've personally never played it
mild bolt
Yeah, but it kind of does since RoR2 will continue receiving updates and 1 wont
lunar badge
Do yourself a favor and play RoR1
fading socket
it's like the original Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 2 Remake
they're pretty similar in some ways but they are different enough that one doesn't overwrite the other
lunar badge
The only problem with RoR1 is how easy it is to cheese the game
Like, even easier than RoR2
fading socket
I'll have to check it out at some point
mild bolt
You can cheese anything, just gotta know how
I don’t know why people dislike cheesing though. If you don’t like it then don’t do it
rip glass tbh
next pebble
would crossplay be a realistic thing to ask for
lunar badge
@fading socket Do you have RoR1 and just haven't played it yet?
next pebble
well shoot
fading socket
nah, don't have it yet, but I know it's not very expensive or anything
mild bolt
it’s like 4 bucks on Kinguin
next pebble
I am willing to do horrible things for crossplay
mild bolt
Oh shit, baller. Throwing money around
lunar badge
I bought it on G2A for like 4 bucks 😎
mild bolt
Big spender
But I’m poor so🤷🏼♂️
What little money i do have i spend on alcohol and snacks😎
lunar badge
cinder timber
i was so bad at ror1
rough gyro
same
lunar badge
Bad.... at RoR1?
It was like, 10x easier than RoR2
Nothing could sneak up on you
You could abuse platform height differences
cinder timber
im bad at 2d games 
lunar badge
Does not compute
cinder timber
ok?
mild bolt
xd
lunar badge
I'm not trying to be mean here, but I legitimately don't understand how something being 2D could make it harder
One thing I liked about RoR1 that actually did make it harder tho
Diminishing returns on items
Stacking them would give you less and less
I liked that
I also miss Chef
Like, a lot
fading socket
maybe he'll return in a future update
they know how much people liked him
fervent turtle
yeah chef was 👌
lunar badge
I'm really salty with the devs for pitching the Chemist, Spearman, Weaver, and Paladin, then giving us by far the character with the worst M2 and R in the game
(I'm also big sad Chef didn't win)
mild bolt
I’m just happy sniper didn’t
lunar badge
YES same
I don't know how stupid someone has to be to think he would work in RoR2 like he did in RoR1
mild bolt
High Five✋
I don’t know he could be cool
Eventually
But I’d want a few more characters first
hidden fjord
Captain only issue is Mobility and some bigger AOE. But he Balances it with Good Offensive and defensive/Support skills
oak ferry
I assume Blight wasn't buffed?
fading socket
nope
oak ferry
rip
languid yarrow
It's not a real code
storm folio
is that confirmed by the devs?
languid yarrow
Just concept art 
storm folio
why would they bait us with a code?
royal phoenix
...no
the entire credits sequence is concept art
languid yarrow
it doesn't lol
storm folio
have the devs confirmed that it is nothing?
why would it be different from the other codes?
deft breach
you guys think that capn can get by without the healing beacon?
royal phoenix
ye
deft breach
im thinking stun and hack?
royal phoenix
Healing beacon isn't even that great imo
it's like a bungus turret minus the turret
deft breach
yeah im starting to think it promotes a too defensive and stationary playstyle
royal phoenix
the only issue is that literally all of captain's beacons kinda suck, so no matter what you choose it aint great
deft breach
if healing beacon scaled with your healing items that would be neat
like if you get bungus it would increase the heal or size
they should all come with some sort of scaling capabilities
mild bolt
Just go hack
deft breach
2 hack?
royal phoenix
Healing beacon has subpar range
Stun beacon has a tiny radius and also shock become useless after you get like a single proc item
Equipment beacon is just... bad. Unless you're doing some meme build where you unload 4 Preons onto the boss
Hack is only really useful for shrines of chance and the legendary chest
royal phoenix
I like Cap's aesthetic, but I gotta admit that most of the time it feels like you're playing with only 2 abilities (1 in Hidden Realms)
deft breach
if shock had a much larger radius and more consistent stun i feel like it would be worth taking more
mild bolt
Yeah you are. But it’s kinda the same with other characters too?
How often do you use M1 and R on loader
You kinda just throw her R cause it’s bad and M1 you don’t use cause you use shift instead
Her kit is shift and M2
deft breach
merc uses his entire kit
royal phoenix
Loader suffers from the same problem yeah
mild bolt
Same with Cap. M1 and Shift is his kit and the other 2 are useful sometimes
royal phoenix
I feel like there shouldn't really be characters who have 1 useful ability and the rest are just there to fill out the action bar
mild bolt
His hack is by far the best IMO cause it lets you get through your first loop really fast and early game is key
Stage 1-2 i throw em down on whatever is high value or close and rush boss
buy whatever i can with what money i got from the boss and move on
You don’t need to farm stage 4 cause you can just hack the chest and you get through loop 1 in record time
south bramble
It's kinda sad that Captain's support beacons are slowly devolving into the meta of hack beacon is strongest for selfish reasons.
royal phoenix
Look at Commando and Huntress, all their abilities are useful
Arti and Merc have skill rotations that force them to cycle between all their abilities, and all of them are good
The only Acrid move that doesn't get used much is M1, M2 is good for taking out aerials and Shift is good as an engagement or escape tool
I don't play REX so idk about him, but it seems like his abilities function well together
The only characters with the "1 strong ability and 3 filler" problem are Loader and Cap
craggy umbra
loader's "1 strong ability and 3 filler" kind of works, since they work together with that 1 strong ability, cap is kinda
mild bolt
Hack beacon is really good imo but it does fall off after the first loop
craggy umbra
meh stuff with good thing
south bramble
Rex kinda groups everyone up with his special, then his secondary can rain down fire, his shift can be used both as mobility or pushing enemies into the zone you want them grouped up in, and his primary helps keep that healing going, along with a slow to help that lockdown.
mild bolt
and his m1 and shift are pretty good
royal phoenix
Loader sorta works with her problem because her 1 good ability is fun af
But when Cap's strongest attack is his primary?
ehhhhhhhhhhh
red echo
his m2 is literally fine you guys are just using it wrong 
mild bolt
I think Cap is really good right now but he is probably gonna get buffed. And You wont see me complaining
craggy umbra
tasering a big guy is cool and all, until a friend accidentally looks at it in the wrong way
royal phoenix
his m2 is fine for like the first 30 seconds of the run
south bramble
It still can come in clutch if you need a cancel a move real quick when you are in a dangerous spot.
royal phoenix
as soon as you pick up a single proc item, shock is worthless
craggy umbra
oh shoot
royal phoenix
i feel like this is unintentional
mild bolt
Havent tried it yet but u will
craggy umbra
Did not know that, that's actually really helpful, but not intentional at all
red echo
probably intentional, look at rex
royal phoenix
feels like the acrid sprintspam
south bramble
But at the point shock becomes really weak shouldn't your reload speed be neligible?
red echo
it's the same mechanic
mild bolt
Yeah but they didnt get rid of sprintspam did they
craggy umbra
not intentional, but not bad enough to take out
mild bolt
i like to think of stuff like that more as a hidden thing and less of a bug
red echo
rex's m2 resetting his m1 has been a thing as long as he's been a character, i'm assuming captain works the same way by design
craggy umbra
now something that isnt intentional and is REALLY BAD is mult double rebar
mild bolt
Me and Cylon are just vibing with our Cap viewpoints this man can not say a single thing wrong
craggy umbra
hold r, hold left click, profit
royal phoenix
also it still feels weird for his second ability to stop being useful as anything more than a "your primary attacks slightly faster once every 5 seconds"
restive vector
bruh so dumbi select unstarted games and the only thing i get is started
and the thing is i have to wait the entire game not just one round to join
😦
mild bolt
Okay what you’re saying makes sense @royal phoenix I don’t agree but i see where you are coming from
But he was released 4 days ago
red echo
I can see where the argument is coming from but in the context of the game I think Captain's kit is perfectly fine, the only thing I'd like to see fixed is the inconsistent damage on his shift
(it does 1500% on the first shot and 500% on the other two)
mild bolt
High likelyhood his M2 is changed his beacons are buffed and the whole realm thing removing 2 abilities is also adressed
craggy umbra
Cap's 2 is good for animation cancelling, but that shouldn't be the reason for it to be good
mild bolt
He’ll only get better
craggy umbra
^
red echo
I mean it's still good outside of the animation cancel, it can interrupt important attacks
Stone golem about to ruin your day? Tell him to sit down
royal phoenix
REX's 2 is good standalone, it's damn near a core part of his kit
the animation cancel just happens to be tacked on
red echo
the damage is a little low but the utility is there
red echo
and his m1 damage is proooobably the strongest m1 in the game?
royal phoenix
look i don't play rex ok
my friends do
all i see is mortars raining down every second
but idk what else he does
red echo
rex goes pew pew and throws shit around
mild bolt
Yeah his mortars are like 90% of his damage
south bramble
Life sucking plant with his mini blackhole
mild bolt
you only shoot his primary for the heal
south bramble
Absolute control over that area
red echo
his primary shreds late game tbh
mild bolt
It does
south bramble
Even bosses get affected by it
turbid bone
do they plan on adding more characters or are they done with that
red echo
there will probably be more characters
south bramble
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mild bolt
But mortars🥰🤤
They’ve said they will continue developing the game but have not specified anything. But probably more characters
south bramble
In other words they'll do whatever they want with post launch, and we are in for the ride.
mild bolt
Yeah
red echo
"We’re excited to get a new survivor in for 1.0 launch, but if your fave didn’t win, don’t despair! Just as we mentioned last week, just because a character didn’t win, it doesn’t mean they’re out for good. We have lots to share with you about post-launch support soon, so look forward to that and your brand new survivor in the future. Once again, thanks for a fantastic year of Early Access! You made this happen, gang. <3"
- Hopoo
royal phoenix
tbh my main gripe with Captain's abilities being disabled in the void is that it also made me forget his Util and Special existed at all, even outside the void
I like hanging out in hidden realms a lot
south bramble
Yeah, they did say they were conflicted, but I do hope they realize that lore affecting gameplay fun is not the way to go.
mild bolt
Yeah they will
south bramble
Imagine if huntress or loader lost half of their kit.
mild bolt
They made a choice and went with it but thats why we’re here to tell them what we want
south bramble
Or any character for that matter
royal phoenix
wait cap's microbots can shut down the vagrant's big ball
nice
mild bolt
Yeah it shoots projectiles
royal phoenix
thought the ball counted as an enemy
mild bolt
I find it very underwhelming though but i think its more of an out of mind thing
royal phoenix
since it had a hp bar
mild bolt
Like it does shit but you don’t notice it so you don’t think it’s doing shit
royal phoenix
very noticeable early game
not being bombarded by lemurian balls from 5 directions is nice
mild bolt
Yeah but my point is when it shoots shit off screen you don’t see it happen so you don’t know it did
fair carbon
You know because you didn't die to some random crap haha
chrome hedge
I've been looping so much in this run trying to get a Radio Scanner on Sky Meadow that I'm getting hit by integer overflow in regards to purchasables...
mild bolt
Jesus
I was just gonna lunar portal for rallypoint every run until i get it
It’s not my final thing in the entire logbook so
mild bolt
I still got 3 monster logs and purity to unlock
outer sluice
holy shit the alternate skin for captain makes me coom
mild bolt
He is indeed the milkman
royal phoenix
also i just realized
for a skill that (was supposed to) deal a total of 4500% AoE damage...
it has a really damn short cooldown, doesn't it?
errant yew
8 times have i reached mithix using commando. playing on vanilla monsoon. ive died all 8 of those times
low anvil
ffs
mild bolt
Doesn’t specify that but damage numbers show it
cedar cosmos
cap works wonders on mithix i cleared it first time with acrid
low anvil
stupid fucking 280 isnt spawning
cedar cosmos
it was easy
low anvil
wtf are the spawn odds on it anyway
royal phoenix
also turns out umbra cap's microbot can nullify the airstrike
nice
damn you really can't hit this guy with anything but the shotgun
royal phoenix
wait can he null the beacons too
royal phoenix
ok he can't
still
neither of us can kill each other
the only thing we can hit with is the shotgun lol
this aint even some intense super long battle like merc umbra is
it's just two old dudes plinking at each other with shotguns that deal no damage
fading socket
finally got my first mastery skin!
obliteration as huntress, didn't feel like risking it with Mithrix at this point
mild bolt
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
chrome hedge
Many logs this run... except for that damned Sky Meadow.
fading socket
jesus that's a long-ass run
mild bolt
- rallypoint and then im done
chrome hedge
I actually got 3x Convergence to loop back to Sky Meadow as fast as possible to try for the Scanner. No luck before I got tired
royal phoenix
also, is it just me or does the Umbra of Captain not have a boss health bar
is that a bug?
mild bolt
I’ve been messaging in this discord for the last 7 hours
fading socket
i'm sitting at 83/103 achievements at the moment
the only ones that aren't masteries and artifacts that I still need are elite boss on monsoon and beat the game on monsoon I think
mild bolt
i feel you
fading socket
at least I think so
mild bolt
101/103
I need purity and Mercenary Ethereal
Which i cheated in and the ability is trash but ill do it someday
red echo
103/103 let's gooo
slicing winds isn't trash anymore, it's the new meta
not even joking
mild bolt
I fished 250 fish in terraria so i can do some prismatic trials
unborn trench
I still cant remember what lunar items do what for the life of me.
mild bolt
Haha most are not worth
fading socket
I got lucky with one when I was on an ability unlock spree
red echo
purity is really fun
mild bolt
It seems cool yeah
red echo
i grabbed 4 of them earlier memeing around on loader and flew out to the easter egg islands with no mobility items
fading socket
glass and command artifacts on the prismatic trial I got
red echo
I did it in a glass/command trial with an early legendary chest, grabbed a hardlight and spammed shift to win
mild bolt
But honestly, whats the point in prismatic trials when its command
fading socket
yeah the only non-mastery and non-artifact achievements I still need are Deicide and The Calm
royal phoenix
umbra beetle guards are terrifying
red echo
the point is to get mercenary ethereal
red echo
nah you can do that in any trial
mild bolt
Thats why you do prismatic trials
and thats the only time i did one
artifacts werent in the game
it was just a seeded run basically
red echo
man you know what feature I'd like to see actually, a way to do a full run with a set seed
mild bolt
dude scroll up
red echo
what am i scrolling up to 
chrome hedge
Finding Commencement Environment Log made me mad. It's another one of those "disappears in 5 minutes" things.
tiny root
did they make it where you can only have one "forgive me please" out at a time?
chrome hedge
The first time I thought to look in the place it actually is, it despawned since I was fighting mobs for their logs.
languid yarrow
it's 3 now
chrome hedge
Then I just looked its location up and went UGH.
tiny root
u can have 3 out?
mild bolt
I think ima set my role to mercenary just for that beautiful cyan
red echo
hell yeah cyan gang
sweet geyser
Shrines of order can be found in the boss stage. Pic attached is proof. Wiki says only rallypoint Delta
fading socket
as for logbook entries I have yet to unlock
items: Brainstalks (not unlocked yet), Nanobots (vengeance not unlocked yet), Irradiant Pearl (lol), Purity (not unlocked yet), and Eccentric Vase (I only unlocked it yesterday)
monsters: both Lunar Chimeras, both Worms, Aurelionite, Alloy Worship Unit, and Grovetender
environments: Distant roost, Void Fields, and A Moment, Whole
sweet geyser
Can someone with edit privileges and/or knowhow update the wiki for me?