gd2-nullified

[weary saddle]

glubolorf no

[steady jewel]

COntraptions haven't really been a problem for me anybore because I either focus them or move too fast to be hit by them

[ivory depot]

the less you know they exist the more likely they are to SHOW YOU THEY EXIST

[lament prairie]

Thank you @lucid plank , someone understands

[steady jewel]

Might just be the charcters I've been playing though

[lament prairie]

Could be

Movement sometimes is just hard to come by, and you sometimes forget to not walk in a straight line

[ivory depot]

the issue comes when you cant focus on them, but they are so easy when you do

[steady jewel]

I'd just hate to be Engineer or Acrid while being swarmed by them

[gritty bluff]

easiest command character for the final boss?

[lament prairie]

But I need to play more Merc, he doesn't afraid of any contrap

[neon flume]

all of them bear command is broken

[wind shadow]

as merc himself, i can say i am afraid of contraption

[weary saddle]

the mini mushrooms have a hidden mechanic where they do a big stinky fart, its really a brilliant mechanism!

[steady jewel]

He doesn't afraid of anything

[gritty bluff]

i know command is dogshit stupid broken but i was wandering

[ivory depot]

merc has iframes merc fears nothing

[wind shadow]

merc fears flaming brass contraption

[steady jewel]

If you save your eviserate for when the contraptions attack you're pretty save

[weary saddle]

safe**

[lament prairie]

Literally get Loader and get nothing but Crowbars, Bands, and Hardlights

[steady jewel]

Unless it's an elite

[lament prairie]

Watch as everything dies

[arctic terrace]

can u kill wisp with acrid bites

[wind shadow]

how do acrid bite fire

[lament prairie]

If you have hopoo

[arctic terrace]

nvm i will stick to spit

[weary saddle]

he have fire proof mouth duh

[lament prairie]

If you get blight, pandemic can kill them

But it's mid cooldown and not terribly reliable

[dull ingot]

if you don't jump, flying enemies will actually fly down

[arctic terrace]

that takes time though

[steady jewel]

Eh, blight feels kinda weak after a while

[lament prairie]

Exactly

[dull ingot]

not much time

[weary saddle]

erg u guys don't know the lore, acrid crawled out of the sewer, mercenary ate his family, etc.

[lament prairie]

I do like the stacking mechanic of blight, but yea

[steady jewel]

Does the planet have a sewer system?

[weary saddle]

yes

[steady jewel]

I must've missed that piece of lore

[arctic terrace]

saw is the best for acrid right

[lament prairie]

Usually, I get poison/spit/reset jump but I dream of blight/bite/puddle jump

[weary saddle]

the captain actually created the blueprints for the entire sewer system, it runs all throughout the planet!

[lament prairie]

saw is decent, backup is better for acrid

[arctic terrace]

hmm

[lament prairie]

Or missiles

Or flight

[weary saddle]

umm the sewer....

[arctic terrace]

why tho

[lament prairie]

To pick off 1 hp people more often

[steady jewel]

So is that why the providence took down the ship in RoR1?

[arctic terrace]

i see

[lament prairie]

So you can boss focus

[arctic terrace]

lol no prov took down the ship in ror1 because they stole his teleporters

[steady jewel]

But where does the sewer fit into all this?

[wind shadow]

pretty sure it got taken down to the pollution caused by the sewers

[lament prairie]

Prov took down the ship because he had a massive hangover and the ship was making too much noise in space

[weary saddle]

yeah the survivor in RoR1 eventually aided in creating the sewer that runs through the planet.

[arctic terrace]

is that actual lore or u just made it up

[weary saddle]

what...

[lament prairie]

...yeeeeees

[weary saddle]

you think i would make that up

[wind shadow]

isn't that what wetland aspect is, pollution from the sewer?

[weary saddle]

the sewer is crafted from the same metal used to create the repulsion armor plates.

[steady jewel]

But it sounds more like the providence took down the ship in RoR1 to find someone to create a serer system for the planet

[lament prairie]

Prov can't tech

[steady jewel]

Maybe he was just too shy to ask?

[arctic terrace]

nah if u look at the intro theres teleporter in there

[lament prairie]

He has a sword for fixing things

[arctic terrace]

they stole the teles and he got pissed

[weary saddle]

it was all for the sewer in the end

[gritty bluff]

does anyone have a list on what the new lunar items do?

[lament prairie]

The wiki does

[gritty bluff]

i searched a bit and didnt find the new ones

[steady jewel]

I think the sewer theory is more plausable

[gritty bluff]

but theres several wikis so

[weary saddle]

the whole first game was in preparation to create the sewer that was going to be crafted on the planet found in RoR2

[lament prairie]

The sewer is the planet silly. You just can't smell it because it's a video game

[weary saddle]

why do you think they would go to such lengths to claim the planet for themselves?

[glossy pumice]

You guys know the black liquid coming from the aqueduct in the desert stage?

[lament prairie]

pot goo, yes

[weary saddle]

obviously they would industrialize the planet and their first step was the sewer system.

[rapid bobcat]

quick question people, does obliterating in eclipse mode count as beating the game?

[glossy pumice]

That turns people into beetles apparently, if you read the logbook

[lament prairie]

I disagree

[rapid bobcat]

oh there's a game question area, sorry

[weary saddle]

i disagree aswell]\

[wind shadow]

as do i

[weary saddle]

the goo is also from the sewer\

[lament prairie]

Sewer is how we get the goo

[weary saddle]

its sewage

[lament prairie]

magic sewage

[neon flume]

https://riskofrain2.gamepedia.com/Items#Lunar

@gritty bluff if you are still here

[steady jewel]

Wait, what if the aquaduct is the outlet of the sewer that explains why it looks so grose

[gritty bluff]

thanks my guy

[neon flume]

also only use this wiki fandom is garbage

[gritty bluff]

yeah

also, what sewer are we talking about

i have no idea about the new lore

[steady jewel]

The sewer was created by the survived in RoR1

[gritty bluff]

oh?

[steady jewel]

The very same sewer where Mercinary ate Acrid's family

The captain made the blueprints of the sewer

[gritty bluff]

waitç

[winged iron]

I fucking love the Captain

He’s so funnnnnn

[weary saddle]

so basically the events of RoR1 were in preparation to industrialize the planet found in RoR2, in RoR1 there were talks of converting planets into thriving civilizations, their first step was the sewer, in the second game the cutscene begins in space, they have finally found the planet that they are going to industrialize and implant a sewage system within, so it can be made into a thriving planet. The second games plot is to take over the planet by destroying its inhabitants and claiming the planet for the survivors, then they will being the creation of the sewer.

[gritty bluff]

what was the red item for engi again, nkuhanas or rejuv

[wind shadow]

both really

nkuhana is funny skulls though

[weary saddle]

does that make sense?

please ask any questions

[gritty bluff]

that makes sense

[winged iron]

Nkuhana with bungus is nutty

[wind shadow]

how did mercenary get in the sewer? and like why did he have to eat acrid's family

[steady jewel]

I don't like that it kinda makes sense

[winged iron]

Rejuv is just good overall

[gritty bluff]

the thing i dont understand is why a sewer would make them money

[lament prairie]

He had to eat Acrid's family because they were delicious

[winged iron]

People gotta shit

If you wanna shit, you pay

[gritty bluff]

shit on the floor

[winged iron]

Boom, infallable business model

[gritty bluff]

also where are we getting this new lore from?

[quick storm]

the sewers

[weary saddle]

mercenary was found in the ancient sewage system of the planet in RoR1, mercenary was starving and had no choice, the only source of anything to eat were acrids children.

[dull ingot]

from nowhere

[winged iron]

Also rip comedy island

[steady jewel]

He was always there

[weary saddle]

from the wikipedia...

[steady jewel]

He's magic. Ehy do you think he can move at light speed. He's not human

[wind shadow]

inside of that suit, he is a mutated beast

[dull ingot]

from the wikipedia...
more like from the uncyclopedia

[austere knoll]

you guys totally read into that lore wrong

[arctic terrace]

whats the best reds for acrid

[austere knoll]

hes just the suit, there is no person

[arctic terrace]

hook?

[frosty terrace]

I get amazing starts with huntress and always just get shit on because my hp is low, never won with this character

[wind shadow]

uhh i believe you mean raincyclopedia

[austere knoll]

hardest thing about captain hack beacon challenge is actually finding the damn drone

but i did it

now to get free reds on abyssal

[gusty hare]

multiplayer helps with finding them

[limber cradle]

i read they fixed the "forgive me please" shenanigans, so what has changed do forgive me please still work with any of gesture or soulbound?

[austere knoll]

thats what i had to do. why are all merc mains elitist bad mouths who rush tele with a topaz and a dream

[gritty bluff]

anyone got a list on the "and so they left" endings

[austere knoll]

lmao

[wind shadow]

excuse me do i need to bring out my merc katana

[winged iron]

Are merc mains just the yasuo mains of ROR 2?

[weary saddle]

mercenary survived in the broken tattered sewers of the planet in RoR1 for centuries, if he were human he would have died by now, the dangerous environment within the broken down sewers mutated him slowly into the abomination that he is, underneath that mask is now a husk of his former self. He can move at sonic speed, as its what he had to do to get a meal down in the sewers, he adapted, and in the process he became a monster...

[gritty bluff]

imagine playing yasuo

[austere knoll]

yes, is this the EUS safe travels? yeah, the weeb with his dull kitchen knife over there

[gritty bluff]

nah merc mains are more like, yi mains i guess

[winged iron]

Oh god

[weary saddle]

i hope i described the sewer accurately for you 🙂

[winged iron]

Not the Chinese!!

[wind shadow]

thanks, im gonna tell all my friends about sewer

[winged iron]

Fucking chinses funnelers in my games

[gritty bluff]

what would chef mains be then

[steady jewel]

What if the place where Acrid is locked up is part of the sewer?

[wind shadow]

im pretty sure it is

[winged iron]

Captain mains are graves mains, just not as toxic

[weary saddle]

what would sewer mains be then

[austere knoll]

accurate

[neon flume]

i thought you said the sewer was going to be built after ror2

[steady jewel]

Does this make sewer mains Acrid mains?

[austere knoll]

graves if graves had a UNSC MAC cannon on standby

[neon flume]

or was merc in a different sewer

[austere knoll]

rex players are vegan mains, change my mind

[winged iron]

And 0 mobility

[neon flume]

vegan run no meat allowed

[arctic terrace]

oh well i guess alien head works well

[wind shadow]

sewer also has 0 mobility, sewers do not move

[austere knoll]

lmao vegan run. nothing living except fungus

[arctic terrace]

acrid dot doesnt proc anything right

[austere knoll]

it does not

[weary saddle]

There was a pre-existing sewer on the planet of RoR1, as the civilization that lived there before needed a way to get rid of their waste. The sewer in RoR2 has not been built yet in the events of RoR2 it has just been planned to be built, it would be impossible to build a sewer on a planet inhabited by hostile creatures.

[steady jewel]

Hot take: Rex is the most boring character

[neon flume]

hot take: commando is

[austere knoll]

worse than engi? coming from a previous engi main

[steady jewel]

Commando is boring......but with all alt abilities he isn't

[austere knoll]

vanilla commando is a bit dull. alt m2 and shift commando is rambo commando

[brisk quiver]

What does boring mean to you?

[austere knoll]

boring is removing interaction from the game for me.

[steady jewel]

He's just shoot whats directly infeond of you in a straight line and nothing else

[wind shadow]

thespaceman, have you heard of the sewer?

[brisk quiver]

Nah, just checking into this channel

[steady jewel]

M1: shoot in a straight line
M2: shoot in a straight line but pierce
R:shoot in a straight line but stun

[gritty bluff]

good shit if u ask me

[winged iron]

Gonna play some more captain while waiting for my student loan form

[brisk quiver]

What is the sewer?

[steady jewel]

Only interesting thing Commando has going for him is shift. And the alt is still better

[winged iron]

Tactical slide

[austere knoll]

got captain mastery and hack alt, feeling good

now just need stages, which is rough cause secret stages = no shift or ult

[ivory depot]

i mean you can enter bazaar, which requires no combat. you can enter void and instantly leave after starting the first cell.

you can enter a moment fractured and leave

[frosty terrace]

is this what I need for the unlock?

[ivory depot]

yes

[frosty terrace]

cool

[austere knoll]

hmm so if you have the lunar coins to force maps

[frosty terrace]

found it almost instantly, nice

[ivory depot]

lucky

[austere knoll]

you can get 10 without going to arti dimension, gilded, or void

[ivory depot]

actually you can get 10 without any secret stages, unless you count moon as a secret stage

[austere knoll]

alt for the first 4 stages, total of 8+sky meadoes to 9, then bazaar for 10

[random laurel]

is the microbot logbook entry bugged?

[ivory depot]

or moon for 10

[austere knoll]

and still lose the run lmao

[neon flume]

the virgin double power saw vs the chad double hacking

[ivory depot]

is the microbot logbook entry bugged?
only way to get it is to start up a run on vengeance, pick up no items, kill clone, and he'll drop another bot. thisll give you the log

[austere knoll]

vs the best friend double heal beacon

[random laurel]

that kind of sucks

[austere knoll]

and two engi pals\

[ivory depot]

its currently bugged but this second (maybe) bug fixes it

[random laurel]

but thanks

[austere knoll]

opinion + fungus + double heal beacon is a strat i wanna do

[arctic terrace]

lol is acrid with visions of heresy gonna work

[austere knoll]

no, visions doesnt have regenerative

but thats a cute idea

[arctic terrace]

you dont really need regen if you're ranged

[steady jewel]

I think it can work since you can actually finish a lot of enemies off from a distance

[arctic terrace]

yeah and it also explodes

[ivory depot]

the pre 1.0 acrid meta was visions, but since the 1.0 changes i really dont know if its good

[austere knoll]

brilliant behemoth on captain, btw

[ivory depot]

yeah, explosive shotgun

its so good

[austere knoll]

anyone experienced the pure B L A P that that is

pick a dude, he explodes. makes me wish there was a gibbing mod

brutal doom style mod for ROR2

risk of hemmorage

[ivory depot]

oooh i just came up with a good challenge run i should try

i cant stop walking forward

[austere knoll]

alright ive been playing since 12:30 last night and its 1 now

[steady jewel]

Sounds like playing Merc

[austere knoll]

im getting off. yall be good

[compact path]

So is looping gone?

[random laurel]

no

[steady jewel]

You just need to interact with the spiked around the teleporter

[random laurel]

interact with the pillars of the teleporter to loop instead of going to the moon

[compact path]

Oh, ok

[ivory depot]

So is looping gone?
god i have posted this screenshot so many times now

[compact path]

Cool, was not clear on that

[neon flume]

i mean i also missed it

[steady jewel]

I learned it by accident

[compact path]

🤷‍♂️ sorry

[neon flume]

its not really clear thats what you have to do

[ivory depot]

its pretty easy to miss tbh

[steady jewel]

Wanted to fight the boss but looped instead

[compact path]

I was pretty lucky, managed to beat the boss on my first monsoon run of the patch xD

[ivory depot]

my first one was as loader and i didnt expect to him be actually hard

[limber cradle]

are there any tips and tricks for mercenary 100% prismatic trials? what artifacts should you be looking for?

[ivory depot]

first phase, got one shot.

[steady jewel]

Still haven't beaten him

[ivory depot]

ive beat him 3 times now, once as commando with command, once as captain with command, and once as huntress.

[steady jewel]

Enable no fun mode

[ivory depot]

all on monsoon, and i havent looped on any of them

i need to test the balance of looping v him tho

[compact path]

I got some fungi and a Nuk opinion on engi and some decent movement stuff on my run

[limber cradle]

@ivory depot did you ever complete a moon vs moon run yesterday?

[ivory depot]

i got to the 3rd phase of the boss

[compact path]

With no command

[ivory depot]

that darn shockwave spam got me, i couldnt get far enough away in time

[steady jewel]

Looks very dead

[compact path]

You save screenshots of you dying?

[ivory depot]

yes

[compact path]

What a masocchist

[frosty terrace]

my stage has that golden statue, if I go to that stage, I can't go to bazaar at the same time right? I still have to choose one portal

[limber cradle]

@frosty terrace correct

[ivory depot]

you have to choose one, yes.

[limber cradle]

are there any tips and tricks for mercenary 100% prismatic trials? what artifacts should you be looking for?

[ivory depot]

command and glass

[limber cradle]

does glass work?

[ivory depot]

yes

[steady jewel]

Not even sure why I made this ome

[limber cradle]

but you always have 10%?

[ivory depot]

yes

i also save screenshots of hell itself

hell itself

[gritty bluff]

"the primordial teleporter aligns with the moon

[compact path]

Holy shit

[gritty bluff]

also hoky shit

[ivory depot]

hell itself

[steady jewel]

I also have this one

[neon flume]

1 lunar coin off

[gritty bluff]

is there a strat for the final boss

[compact path]

What is going on with your q in that one?

[ivory depot]

I am the chronobauble god

its just being activated incredibly quickly if you couldnt tell by the blackhole mass of death

[neon flume]

atleast you can crit

[sturdy quail]

Instantly critting with a proc coefficient of 0

[compact path]

S L O W

[steady jewel]

You'll slightly inconvenience mobs for so long

[sturdy quail]

🧠

[neon flume]

2320% to crit is pretty good

[limber cradle]

step 1: get please forgive me/ gesture/ and soulbound step: 2 you didnt have anything else.... step 3: you still got like 10 lunar coins, so profit...?

[ivory depot]

sure i died but i mean at least they will be slow for the next ~4 minutes

[sturdy quail]

Wisp horde

[compact path]

gotem

[ivory depot]

ive only ever had order shrine give me a viable build once

[compact path]

how tf are you at st age 13 at 37 min

[ivory depot]

speed

[sturdy quail]

Same reason he has over 200 items at 37 min lol

[steady jewel]

Gotta love this game sometimes

[compact path]

But like... haow

[past yarrow]

sometimes?

[sturdy quail]

probably playing modded

[neon flume]

old shift you would have been fine

[ivory depot]

i also did rex swing by

im not modded

[steady jewel]

I love this game but I also hate this game sometimes

[ivory depot]

yep

[compact path]

This man is on some next level shit O_o

[limber cradle]

@ivory depot that feels like some void field sacrifice shenanigans with the 300+ items

[ivory depot]

that was the only run where i farmed void sac

but thats why its so stupid in the amount of items

[past yarrow]

indeed

[limber cradle]

i did it once, afk while i had friends over, they left at 4 am, my game was a powerpoint presentation

[sturdy quail]

next slide please

[ivory depot]

but who needs artifacts anyways?

[limber cradle]

no mods btw 900k lunar coins BTW

[neon flume]

oof

[ivory depot]

its not a mod, i just edited my file.

[steady jewel]

Exposed

[limber cradle]

i cant spend my lunar coins faster than i get them tho

[ivory depot]

are you challenging me? I AM GOD INCARNATE

yeah ik its easy to farm lunar coins, im just lazy

[limber cradle]

apotheosis

[frosty terrace]

what's that spine thing

[ivory depot]

randomly creates a ward in the nearby area every now and than that empowers EVERYTHING, including enemies in its range

[frosty terrace]

sounds meh

[restive bolt]

||https://youtu.be/1tG8oXvqHGw?t=122||

Anybody else get reminded of that Botw DLC boss fight ||where you have to fight the old monk|| by the final boss?

Im not sure if it was an intentional inspiration or not

[ivory depot]

yeah its not that good

[patent lava]

Purity is amazing on artificer and loader @versed basin real game changer

[ivory depot]

did you just ping hopoo

[frosty terrace]

omg, captain's M1 just proc'ed 8 sticky bombs on one enemy, didn't know it was that good

each one can proc stuff, nice

[patent lava]

He said he wanted to know how the community felt

[nimble path]

ok, so my last 2 runs I have had the same bug where the final boss just doesn't spawn and that's it you're stuck in the final arena with nothing to do

[past yarrow]

#ror2-bug-reports-pc

[frozen ledge]

What do y’all think about captain personally I like him a lot

[nimble path]

thanks didn't notice that page

[analog karma]

I'm still not sure how I'm going to beat the boss on monsoon given ||his last phase is only more the more powerful you are||

[limber cradle]

@analog karma speed violence momentum,

[ivory depot]

the pattern is quite simple, run around in circles and the minigun wont hurt you much

and when the orbs come near you just... jump.

[dull ingot]

should I do the portal

[ivory depot]

yes

[dull ingot]

ok but i have scrap launcher and nail gun what if the mobs outrange me

[river crown]

ok, so my last 2 runs I have had the same bug where the final boss just doesn't spawn and that's it you're stuck in the final arena with nothing to do
@nimble path You can move back and forth from where you came from to try to trigger the boss. Had same thing happen to me because I was flying too high.

[patent lava]

Captain is cool, it's sorta what I wanted from multi cuz I loved his ability to shotgun and snipe but it never felt quite as good as it does on captain, I'm a little underwhelmed by his r however and the right click drops off past early game imo

[weary saddle]

is that the portal to the sewer?

[ivory depot]

it is the portal to the darkened sewer zone

[dull ingot]

give scrap launcher infinite ammo

[patent lava]

I always do null fields unless I need to do a speed run

[weary saddle]

oh that is thesewer portal

[river crown]

I want to say, Merc stat changes are okay but what people are not noticing is the big nerf that is that you are not attacking all the time when using all abilities lol

[analog karma]

what makes me the most mad is my most recent run I had jade elephant specifically for the final phase and I didn't use it 😢

[patent lava]

Getting a first loop null fields can catapult you through the second loop

[ivory depot]

well you enter it from the purified sewer zone which was saved from the infected air by the bazaars shopekeep, and it takes you to the end of his purification, where the infected air is still there, and you activate these little things to assit him in purifying it

[analog karma]

null fields is ridiculous. It's like getting 2 stages worth of items for the price of 0

[ivory depot]

well, if you are a low mobility character with no/little healing it can be quite a challenge

[patent lava]

Garunteed red as well

[frozen ledge]

@patent lava I get what you mean on captain but for me his taser works on most enemy’s and allows for you to get of his shift ability easy and works for most flying enemy’s but his r is a little under welding but i like it because if you run double heals you get some nice heals during boss fights

[patent lava]

Ofc it could be a desk plant but

[analog karma]

if you go after stage 1 or 2 it usually isn't so bad that any character can't handle it

[ivory depot]

depends on your luck tbh

and what items the enemies get

[analog karma]

and, if it does get bad becuase of tesla coil + armor plates then you only lose a run that went to stage 1 or 2

[river crown]

Captain is weak in hiden realms and idk how to feel about it

[frozen ledge]

Yeah

[mild thunder]

can someone explain what the bleed change means? I think i get it but I want to make sure

[dull ingot]

didnt unlock captain yet

[patent lava]

Yeah the heals can help a bit but both right click and the heal falls off once you start getting further on and there are too many enemies bursting you for half your health

[frozen ledge]

Tbh I don’t go to hidden realms much

[dull ingot]

trying 2 beat the game with mult

[analog karma]

well, luckily captain is mostly his left click anyway, but it is pretty feelsbadman

[patent lava]

I do hidden realms a lot and it feels pretty bad playing cap in them

[eager zodiac]

captain getting decked in the fuckin' face for wanting to explore the game feels really awful

especially since i love the idea of the shotgun character

[patent lava]

Stack bleed crit and shatterspleen on mult

[eager zodiac]

so naturally the shotgun character is the one who HAS to stay on golden path to get his full power

[river crown]

Specially for having an unlockable behind exploring

[dull ingot]

mul t still feels kind of weak to me

[patent lava]

Dagger and shatterspleen stack for 2x bleed and it's disgusting

[eager zodiac]

nah you can just loop once

[frozen ledge]

@patent lava I get what you mean about it falling off but for me taser still helps for some targets later game not much though

[eager zodiac]

abuse shop to set the levels to all the other variants

[patent lava]

Yeah that's fair

[eager zodiac]

oh, by the way

shop doesn't count as an extra realm

[analog karma]

oh it doesn't?

I swore it did

[eager zodiac]

not the times i tried to get his achievement

[shell minnow]

needed to get that achevo.

[analog karma]

Hmmm, I thought when I counted that the shop did count but, whatever

[river crown]

can someone explain what the bleed change means? I think i get it but I want to make sure
@mild thunder Bleed duration and stacks get refreshed every time you apply it. so its very viable for long fights

[eager zodiac]

got through all golden path stages at least once including using shop to set the stages

[patent lava]

Only thing I have left to unlock is wanderlust and a couple monsoon skins

[analog karma]

One trick to get it just a little faster is that the A Moment, Fractured is counted and it can be left

[patent lava]

Why is mercenary so damn fun? The regen hit hurts a lot but still hella fun

[eager zodiac]

fractured was my backup plan if i made it to the second celestial orb

[shell minnow]

Are you playing him as a hit and runner?

[drowsy field]

@patent lava what abilities are you using? i switched from uppercut back to whirlwind

[analog karma]

well, you can leave Fractured, then go 2 more stages, then go to the moon

[mild thunder]

@river crown So the bleeds dont "stagnate" over long fights and are better for melting boss bars?

[analog karma]

and that's 7 stages there if you get repeats on all 4 of your second loops

[patent lava]

I use uppercut to nuke early elites and maintain some verticality

[eager zodiac]

yeah that's absolutely right

kind of forgot you can leave fractured

[analog karma]

yeah because why would you? lmao

literally only for this achievement or a multiplayer pause button

[patent lava]

I feel it's a little hard to consistently hit both whirlwind attacks and I don't really need the momentum from it

[eager zodiac]

also doesn't moment whole count as a hidden realm

meaning captain gets kneecapped even more

[analog karma]

probably?

i haven't gone for mastery on Cap yet

[drowsy field]

@patent lava whirlwind is literally just a double hit if you're midair. what about the r ability?

[eager zodiac]

i like captain a lot but man does it feel goddamn awful being literally punished for exploring

[patent lava]

We don't talk about the other r

[arctic terrace]

lol eyes of heresy is nice

[eager zodiac]

let alone trying to unlock artifacts

[arctic terrace]

but i still died as acrid vs mithrix because his leap forces landing no matter what

[drowsy field]

@patent lava idk man i feel like it might be good now, the last hit applies exposed

[arctic terrace]

broke my fire line dodging tempo

[dull ingot]

4/9 this is impossible

[frozen ledge]

Spoilers for final boss. ||If you use captain double taser beacons while fighting him in second phase most of the moon chimera on the ground that spawn while your fighting him will just get trapped and bam no more moon chimera||

[patent lava]

Exposed is nice sure but losing all that mobility of another dash and the ability to just ignore attacks is too much for me to swallow

[drowsy field]

just don't get hit lol

[patent lava]

Also it just feels weird to use

[dull ingot]

bro dont get hit

[analog karma]

crowbar
brass contraption

[dull ingot]

i hate risk of rain 2

[upbeat gorge]

Question about captain, is hack worth it for the chance at free legendary chests

[analog karma]

ow. Well, you could try standing outside the bubble to stay under 90% health

[eager zodiac]

honestly no

[patent lava]

I play a lot of my monsoon games with glass artifact so Ill take what I can get in terms of damage avoidance as well

[frozen ledge]

No @upbeat gorge

[eager zodiac]

healing and shock are both really weak anyway

[upbeat gorge]

What should I go for then, zap heal?

[eager zodiac]

but they at least help during teleporter

[dull ingot]

im gonna go outside bubble i think I can heal from the dunstrider item

waiting to heal back to full rn zzz

[analog karma]

well, I'm saying stay under 90% so that their crowbars are useless

[frozen ledge]

double zap because it makes a lot of random ground monsters stuck forever @upbeat gorge

[dull ingot]

i need a MUL-T macro, itll shoot the shotgun and then switch to the scrap launcher then repeat

[upbeat gorge]

I really like captain so far, might be my new favorite survivor

[frozen ledge]

Heals can be nice

[analog karma]

that's called R

[frozen ledge]

Same cap might be my new guy cause heals can help people right about to die

[dull ingot]

if u can constantly toggle between nailgun abusing the final shot and using ur scrap launcher its insane

[analog karma]

I still think my fave is Loader, but captain is a pretty fresh and fine fucker

[frozen ledge]

Also projectiles kinda don’t exist if you have syringes and it’s so nice

[upbeat gorge]

Can't get into loader, but I've been mostly Rex and huntress

[river crown]

Captain is fun, I wish the microbot worked against the lesser wisps

[frozen ledge]

Yeah

[winged iron]

Captain is a ton of fun I just suck at him rn

Keep getting naenae’d by bosses

[frozen ledge]

Well lesser wisps are more like lasers

[winged iron]

Mobbing is fine but bosses de_stroy me

[river crown]

Lesser wisps are allowed shotguns before survivors >:V

[frozen ledge]

I have Main’d every survivor before to see who I like and it was Rex commando or merc

[upbeat gorge]

Merc was the most fun for me but I was so bad as him

[mild thunder]

woah bleed with mult is busted

[upbeat gorge]

Now cap probably

[ivory depot]

my favorites fall under loader, commando, and huntress
and now captain

[weary saddle]

i main mercenary with the sewer skin

[frozen ledge]

And I have monsoon skins on almost all survivors now including captain

[mild thunder]

i just put 40 stacks of bleed on a boss

[frozen ledge]

Sewer skin?

[winged iron]

Bleed is pretty good with cap too

[neon flume]

only 40?

[winged iron]

1-2 daggers and you just stack

[weary saddle]

you can unlock it within the sewer, havb you goen through the sewer portal?

[winged iron]

Cap works great with bleed ngl

[mild thunder]

lol i know im on lvl 2

[frozen ledge]

No I haven’t

[analog karma]

I got that new crit bleed item on cap and I had 7 tri-tips and I got Mithy boy up to 389 stacks of bleed

[mild thunder]

its awesome

[analog karma]

And then he JUMPED and ruined it

[frozen ledge]

@weary saddle thank you for the info didn’t know

[mild thunder]

yeah bleed is fun now

[winged iron]

389 bleed stacks

[upbeat gorge]

Bleed captain is great

[frozen ledge]

Also captain shotgun with tri tips is best

[upbeat gorge]

With the new boss item aswell

[weary saddle]

well its an awesome skin you should try to find the portal, it spawns randomly in a moment fractured

[mild thunder]

389 bleed stacks

[frozen ledge]

I got like max bleed with one shot pretty much

No I didn’t

[river crown]

Bleed is great against the Allow Worship Unit

[frozen ledge]

Yes

[gritty bluff]

300 meters left, 50 minutes wasted, hopes crushed, thats what you get when you play drizzle command engi

[river crown]

Got a shield? More bleed for me >:D

[gritty bluff]

am i the only dumbass that died on the moon explosion

[analog karma]

I think I could go higher, but unfortunately Mithy is a squirrely, jumpy boy

[winged iron]

Weasel is a snake oil salesman peddling deception, don’t listen to him

[river crown]

lol

[upbeat gorge]

What would theoretically be better for cap, more tri tips or some lenses and the item that makes crits bleed

[arctic terrace]

nah if you dont have quail/drinks/hooves its hard to make it back

[winged iron]

There is no sewer

[arctic terrace]

the low gravity kills your horizontal momentum

[analog karma]

That depends on Caps proc coeff

[arctic terrace]

that guy was a schizo lol theres no dumb sewer shit

[winged iron]

The shot either all crits or doesn’t crit, which is good

[wind shadow]

??? there is a sewer

[weary saddle]

ummm

[frozen ledge]

Weasel can you dm what it looks like?

[analog karma]

Crit + Shatterspleen is better for bleed stacking on cap, i think

[weary saddle]

your the schizoid cause there is a ewer and you haven't been there, you don't even know the lore dude...

[river crown]

Sewer? You mean Aqueduct?

[winged iron]

Nah, daggers

2 daggers is all you need

[mild thunder]

tldr new bleed mechanics + proc buff for mult = bleed minigun

[winged iron]

Get in their face and mash M1

[mild thunder]

its kind of awesome to watch the health bar just kinda drain

[winged iron]

Yeah

But yes for a bleed captain build you should look for daggers and attack speed

1-2 syringes helps a ton

[river crown]

Kinda sad at the bands nerf

[analog karma]

I stand corrected, daggers are slightly better mathematically speaking for stacking bleeds. You'll get way more DPS out of glasses tho

[river crown]

Cooldown is too long

[mild thunder]

same @river crown They did my man dirty

[analog karma]

if the CD scaled somehow that'd be nice

[winged iron]

Crit cap is also pretty damn good

[analog karma]

but, yeah

[winged iron]

Crit on orbital strikes

[mild thunder]

whirlwind is 8 seconds now 😦

[winged iron]

[river crown]

Crit is good on everyone

[mild thunder]

crit just a really good thing to have

[winged iron]

Artificer meh

[upbeat gorge]

Engi

[river crown]

I miss having 4 fire tornados at the same time

[analog karma]

glasses are literally just "improve all damage by 10% on average

[winged iron]

Yeah same

[frozen ledge]

lol

[winged iron]

@river crown bro gimme a hug :(

[river crown]

Hug

[winged iron]

I want old bands back

[frosty terrace]

found another on when looping

[winged iron]

8% hit better than when you do beeg dmg

[dull ingot]

ok

[mild thunder]

I love this game

[dull ingot]

i got clay templars wave 7

[winged iron]

ARE YOU PLAYING ON RAINSTORM?

[dull ingot]

I died

[winged iron]

You’re only allowed to play on monsoon

[analog karma]

imagine not playing on drizzle

[winged iron]

Grr

[frozen ledge]

You know this is kinda scummy but it’s only when I play with friends not randoms but if I get clay dune strider vase I like just stealing the homies health

[mild thunder]

what's this crit bleed item people are talking about?

[fading socket]

if you wanna build bleed on captain, I'd recommend shatterspleen and high crit chance

[upbeat gorge]

rainstorm is fine you can play on whatever you want

[analog karma]

Shatterspleen

[winged iron]

Shatterspleen

[analog karma]

it can drop from Imp Overlord teleporter bosses

[winged iron]

I am obv joking if no one got that btw, play on whatever difficulty you want

[mild thunder]

its a yellow?

[analog karma]

yes

[upbeat gorge]

Yes

[winged iron]

Yes

[fading socket]

yes

[analog karma]

[arctic terrace]

shatterspleen with tritip for better stacking

[upbeat gorge]

[frozen ledge]

Monsoon elitest’s suck because people play on whatever difficulty they want that’s why it’s added

[mild thunder]

oh im reading it

[frosty terrace]

you can also find it from an overgrown 3d printer which change yellow items

[analog karma]

[mild thunder]

wow thats a very good item

[analog karma]

I think Molten Perforator is the hidden OP item though

[mild thunder]

and all bleeds do the same damage right

[arctic terrace]

monsoon elite is literal meatshield

[frozen ledge]

Molten is good

[arctic terrace]

snoozefest

[fading socket]

Perforator is good in the late game imo

[upbeat gorge]

Shatter and tri tip bleeds are separate so you can have both going at the same time

[arctic terrace]

perforator is op

[mild thunder]

thanks monokuma

[fading socket]

in early game it's kinda hard for the magma balls to hit things, but by the time you're on like stage 10 and there are enemies all over the place it really shines

[upbeat gorge]

Perforator good spleen good update good

[analog karma]

it also is a non-gasoline item that can apply burn for Death Mark

[mild thunder]

whats the best defensive common item?

[analog karma]

Tougher Times

[upbeat gorge]

Probably teddy

Tougher times

[mild thunder]

how many stacks

[upbeat gorge]

Depends on survivor though

[analog karma]

but you want some Topaz Brooches either way and 1 or 2 repulsion plates save you a lot of bleed and burn damage

10 teddies is probably plenty

I think it's like, 75% to avoid damage at that point

[upbeat gorge]

10 is more than enough, I would settle for 8 and focus on some damage and a topaz or 2

[fading socket]

it's 60% for 10 teddies

[mild thunder]

also im reading on the wiki that bleed does 240 BASE damage, is that the damage listed on that survivors logbook entry

[fading socket]

75% is for 20 of them

[analog karma]

yes, it's that damage

oh, damn

[mild thunder]

does that scale with shaper glass

[fading socket]

yes

[bright cairn]

Wow, this game is really hard

[analog karma]

teddies are worse than I thought. Still good tho

Everything scales with Glass

[upbeat gorge]

@bright cairn yes it is

We're here if you need help

[mild thunder]

so anything that says "increases damage" will ALSO increase bleeds and fire?

[fading socket]

glass doubles base damage so anything affected by base damage will be doubled as well

[analog karma]

I think AP Rounds, Focus Crystal, Spinel Tonic, and Glass all scale with everything. I think

[upbeat gorge]

Yes but there are like 3 items that increase base damage

So it's not a huge deal

[analog karma]

I'm not so sure on Focus Crystal

[upbeat gorge]

I think focus does work

[fading socket]

glass, tonic, and i think the new lunar item, the rachis, does

[upbeat gorge]

You just need to be close

[fading socket]

focus is weird compared to other similar items

it applies its bonus to ANY damage done to enemies within that radius

[analog karma]

multiple Mercurial stacks increase the radius huh?

[fading socket]

which also means your proc items get boosted by it if you're close enough even though that doesn't happen with things like high crit chance or even armor piercing rounds

yep, radius, not damage iirc

[drowsy field]

@fading socket nah the new lunar affects cooldowns

[night crescent]

focus crystals + preon accumulator = super shotgun?

[gritty bluff]

fuck people who shout at people who dont play on monsoon

[analog karma]

Hmmmm, time to stack 300 of them and cover the map

[fading socket]

@drowsy field there are three new lunars
the one you're thinking of is Purity

[analog karma]

and yes, Json. Though Crowbar is even better

[drowsy field]

oh right lol

[bright cairn]

Did you all have a hard time in the beginning?

[fading socket]

yes, definitely lol

[bright cairn]

Dying and getting slightly frustradet

[fading socket]

what difficulty are you playing on?

[steady jewel]

It's part of the experience

[drowsy field]

cool kids play on monsoon, but normal is more fun imo

[bright cairn]

The easiest one 😆

Still having a hard time

[mild thunder]

@bright cairn 57 hours in im just starting to do ok on rainstorm

[analog karma]

So if clover is the best item in the game. That'd make Purity the worst, right

[drowsy field]

@analog karma just don't take proc items, ez game

[analog karma]

except for maybe corpsebloom

[fading socket]

well, not necessarily

[tidal goblet]

has anyone tried captain's hacking on the golden chest?

[bright cairn]

Do i get gear/items everytime i use the teleporter? Or how do i get better stuff

[drowsy field]

yeah that works @tidal goblet

[dull ingot]

FFFF

[mild thunder]

Woah purity is cool!

[fading socket]

it's risky if you don't have at least one clover but otherwise it's good

[drowsy field]

takes a decent amount of time for it to hack tho

[dull ingot]

I accidentally gave my health leech to a drone

[chrome hedge]

Purity is something I still take on Artificer, or any character that has important, short CDs.

[tidal goblet]

@drowsy field well in my run it just didn't work

[mild thunder]

purity on Artificer, merc maybe

[fading socket]

@bright cairn every time you kill the teleporter boss, you get one green item

[mild thunder]

first impressions of purity

[fading socket]

there's also chests that spawn around the map that you can open with the money you get by killing enemies

[analog karma]

proc chains are so much of how you deal damage in the later portions of the game, I can never see it being worth it unless you have at least 2 clovers

[steady jewel]

@bright cairn You get an item for every player in the game when you kill the teleporter boss. when you use the shire of the mountain (the one that loke like claws with a white symbol above it) you get an extra item but had to fight more bosses

[chrome hedge]

Sadly it doesn't make Arti Flame Bolt truly rapid fire like every other Primary... just 0.5s minimum CD like what Brainstalks does.

[mild thunder]

Whats a pro chain

[drowsy field]

@tidal goblet you either missed or you just didn't wait long enough, it really does take a long time for expensive stuff to hack

[analog karma]

proc chains are your items proccing your other itmes

[bright cairn]

Can you also unlock items trough challenges?

[drowsy field]

the timer gets blocked by the cave walls

[fading socket]

@mild thunder the basic gist is that a proc chain is when multiple on-hit effects activate each other

yes, scoofy

[mild thunder]

wait like

[analog karma]

for example, you might have ukulele hit an enemy, which procs ATG, that ATG hits that enemy, and then places a sticky bomb

[mild thunder]

like fire from gasoline can activate bleeds or something

[analog karma]

More like, ATGs activate bleeds

[steady jewel]

It's best not to explore the earlier stages for too long since you won't get a lot of money at the start. It's okay if you don't get all items on the map.

[analog karma]

and so do ukuleles.

[mild thunder]

oh ok thats easy i thought it was some super indepth calculation cuz of the name

[bright cairn]

Watched some Twitch of people playing the game. They had such a chill time. Im litteraly sweating

[mild thunder]

what else can do that

ATG, Uke,

[drowsy field]

you can totally just relax and pick up every item on drizzle

[mild thunder]

WilloWisp?

[drowsy field]

just shoot em lol

[analog karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niyO6aOsi20
here's a video on it

Woolie is much better at giving it a rundown with a script than I am impromptu over text

[fading socket]

@mild thunder ATG, Uke, the Bands, Sticky Bombs, and Meat Hook, from memory

[steady jewel]

If you don't stay at the first few stages for too long, the later ones will be easier @bright cairn

[analog karma]

Oh yes
and Preon can proc ATG for some hilariously high levels of damage

[mild thunder]

lemme just save that

[fading socket]

oh @bright cairn you should watch some of Woolie's videos
he has a playlist meant for newer players

@bright cairn https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvTL9oyjYeNiq1zjzFg64Bh-UKkjz188A

[steady jewel]

Exploring for about 5 minutes before you start the first teleporter should be enough

[mild thunder]

i like mult's new scrap launcher

[analog karma]

realize that a lot of his videos are old tho so not all of it still applies

[fading socket]

yeah, I'd start with the fourth one in the playlist

8th actually, my bad

[upbeat gorge]

Alright finally

Got the role

[fading socket]

7th actually, forgot which video was which

[dull ingot]

i got frost relic

[fading socket]

https://youtu.be/nwZtPnqlAro @bright cairn this one

[dull ingot]

i hate my rng!

[fading socket]

@dull ingot sorry for your loss

[gritty bluff]

i love that the coalescence remake is a reference to borges

[mild thunder]

is captain fun?

[upbeat gorge]

Yes imo

I love his playstyle

Aka I love the shotgun sniper

[mild thunder]

HE HAS A SHOTUGN!?!

[upbeat gorge]

Yes

[fading socket]

yep

and you can charge it to tighten the spread

really fun to use

[upbeat gorge]

Which is why I said shotgun sniper

[austere anvil]

Can someone explain to me how people farm in the void with knives?

[winged wolf]

I just got captain yesterday

[fading socket]

nice

[winged wolf]

is he rlly that fun ihavent used him yet

[upbeat gorge]

Imo yes

[fading socket]

I like playing as him but he doesn't have any mobility skills, so be warned

he has good damage and good utility tho

especially once you get his other two beacons unlocked (namely the hack)

[winged wolf]

nice

[upbeat gorge]

He is like upside down merc

[winged wolf]

thanks for the info

[bright cairn]

How do you unlock new caracthers?

[winged wolf]

u do challenges for them

[fading socket]

yeah, depends on the character

[upbeat gorge]

Every unlock is based on achievments

[winged wolf]

its ays under their blank pics

[dull ingot]

captain is a pretty good class

[steady jewel]

if you hover with our mouse over the character icons in the character select it should tell you how to unlock them

[winged wolf]

like u get captain for beating the game for example

[bright cairn]

What counts as beating the game?

[fading socket]

I personally used the wiki to learn a lot of this stuff but the game is decent at explaining itself imo

[winged wolf]

beating the final stage boss

[upbeat gorge]

Killing the final boss

[fading socket]

@bright cairn beating the final boss

[dull ingot]

I got a 443billion damage game as captain

[bright cairn]

Might be a stupid question. How do i get to the boss?

[dull ingot]

5th stage

[bright cairn]

Ah, alright

[dull ingot]

there is a teleporter with a blue partical thing

[fading socket]

yeah, the tp on the fifth stage sends you to his stage by default

if you don't wanna go there you interact with the "prongs" on the outside of the teleporter to change the destination

[winged wolf]

443 BILLION DAMAGE WOAH

[upbeat gorge]

What did you do?

[winged wolf]

MY LORD

ALRIGHT THEN

[primal valley]

is there a strike drone limit or ally limit?

[upbeat gorge]

I don't think there is

If there is, it's very high

[dull ingot]

||The defensive microbots say "Passively gain defensive microbots...". So how does the passive gain work. The only way I've found to get more (and the logbook entry) has been through the vengeance artifact.||

[fading socket]

yeah, I'm pretty sure your game would crash before you reached the hypothetical cap lol

[dull ingot]

Oh the strike drones do stop spawning, I've gotten 0s with them and they stop after 30 ish of them

[upbeat gorge]

Im sure it's not reachable in vanilla

Really?

[dull ingot]

yeah

[fading socket]

@dull ingot ||I think it's either a bug or the passive gain is referring to the fact that drones gain them||

[dull ingot]

can i show the screenshot of the damage i did here

[fading socket]

sure

[upbeat gorge]

Go for it

[winged wolf]

yes plz

[arctic terrace]

poison blocked by armor

[primal valley]

nah im trying to stack gestures and fuel cells and im wondering at what point should i stop

[fading socket]

@dull ingot ||also if you were to lose your starting one you get it back next game||

[winged wolf]

ooooh

[arctic terrace]

with visions of heresy i guess u could be op

[winged wolf]

i thought u meant u did 443 biliion damage per hit

[dull ingot]

||It has to be bugged, the drone is separate and it defiantly references player getting more and not it just being given to other stuff.||

16billion per hit

@primal valley Never.

[winged wolf]

Now thats a lot of damage

[dull ingot]

You can get to a point where you reach a 0 second cooldown. thats when you stop.

after that its a waste

[mild thunder]

is the final boss hard on drizzle

[upbeat gorge]

I don't think that's possible, isn't there a 0.5 delay no matter what?

[fading socket]

yes

[dull ingot]

well all abilities have a "cast time" so yes.

[fading socket]

hardcoded into the game iirc

[dull ingot]

Prion is the worst.

Disp. missile launcher is best imo

so are they doing more content after this

[fringe burrow]

The more I play the captain the more I love him.

[dull ingot]

Yep

[upbeat gorge]

Yes

[dull ingot]

Like more classes

He is the ultimate "screw you" to every bird and lizard in existence.

Oh yeah; bell too

[fading socket]

I like Royal Capacitor myself tbh

[fringe burrow]

I normally never really bother with drones, but giving the Captain a cloud basically makes him bulletproof.

[jaunty coral]

Well there goes another three hour run... the scavengers keep getting me somewhere between stage 15-19. I just want my alternate commando ability ;-;

[fading socket]

yeah Captain really fucks up brass contraptions lol

[dull ingot]

Forgive me please is my go to active now tbh

[rough totem]

I love that because of the boss, almost every item is a lunar item. I'm looking at items going "Oh, this would be great now, but it's gonna screw me over come boss time"

[fringe burrow]

Shattering Justice is SO GOOD on Captain. The shotgun means that you automatically trigger its ability.

[dull ingot]

Boss hasn't been a problem, even on monsoon.

[fringe burrow]

Shattering Justice and anything that gives Bleed.

[rough totem]

For you*

[dull ingot]

needs more ondeaths :^)

Also, I'm honestly really sad frost relic doesn't proc with forgive me please

[river crown]

Wait you can get more microdrones?

[mild thunder]

it says from other drones right?

[ivory depot]

you can get more if you kill your vengeance doppleganger with no items besides the bot

[mild thunder]

My antialiasing isn’t working in the game, what gives?

[dull ingot]

how do I beat mithrix

[mild thunder]

On the UI and the game itself

[dull ingot]

this is dark souls

[ivory depot]

how do I beat mithrix
for the 1st phase, stay in the air and as far away from him as possible

2nd phase is easy, if you loes to it than that is sad

[dull ingot]

i cant stay in the air :(

[fading socket]

who are you playing?

[dull ingot]

mult

[fading socket]

oh that explains it

[ivory depot]

third phase is the same as the 1st phase, but he has a fire column spam attack. to avoid it run as far away from him as possible

[dull ingot]

uh

[ivory depot]

yeah get hopoo feathers

[dull ingot]

so do I have to fight him

that was my first time going through the new portal

[ivory depot]

4th phase has an incredibly simple pattern, just run in circles around him to avoid the minigun and jump over the orbs.

yeah so basically come in with hopoo feathers, they are godtier against him

[magic burrow]

going into void realms with captain, wish me luck boys

[ivory depot]

gl, may you survive this encounter.

[fading socket]

@dull ingot yeah once you're in commencement you either beat the boss or die

[dull ingot]

if i beat the boss I can loop?

[ivory depot]

but you can loop via

[fading socket]

nope, the run ends after that point

[ivory depot]

once you are in commencement you either end the run by dying or killingmithrix

you can loop by doing what i just showed

[dull ingot]

i dont understand

whats happening in the pic

[ivory depot]

go to the edge of the tp, and you can inteact with it

[dull ingot]

oh

yeah I should have looped one more

[ivory depot]

that will change it from taking you to the moon to looping

[dull ingot]

I didnt know

[ivory depot]

i actually once did monsoon without looping and without artifacts

but heres a reccomendation:

dont

[dull ingot]

depends on the character

[ivory depot]

i took huntress

but honestly if you arent doing artifacts its a lot better to just loop

i also did void which if i didnt do i wouldve died

literally

i had a dio from void

[dull ingot]

void is stupid with mul t

[ivory depot]

theres a reason i dont play mult

[dull ingot]

I got brass contraptions and templars

they didnt buff commando

doesnt he feel a bit underwhelming

every single person plays huntress

[idle copper]

commando is fine

[ivory depot]

commandos one of my favorites tbh

[idle copper]

commando is underwhelming because he's a jack of all trades but he's fine

[ivory depot]

the hard early game may be... yknow, hard, but it feels a lot more satisfying once you become god

[dull ingot]

im super bad at aiming

[ivory depot]

...you play mult

[dull ingot]

mul t only works close range

I use nail gun and scrap

[ivory depot]

commando is only viable with alt m2 so i mean

well commando is viable with the normal one but uh
not very much

[dull ingot]

is there a command I can unlock all of the skills

how am I suppose 2 kill an overloading worm on commando

unless I play drizzle or rainstorm

[ivory depot]

overloadings arent actually that bad

unless you take contact damage

[rough totem]

they were much worse in RoR 1

[ivory depot]

just dont take contact damage

the contact damage is similiar to that of mithrix himself

[dull ingot]

slide is better in commando right

[ivory depot]

yeah

[dull ingot]

i changed my mul t retool to m2

[idle copper]

how do you do the slide exploit again

[dull ingot]

so I can swap easily

[ivory depot]

theres a slide exploit WHAT

[idle copper]

i thought there was

[ivory depot]

theres multiple swap exploits on mult but the heck is a slide exploit

[idle copper]

i use dive because i don't like being unable to slide midair

i'm talking commando

[ivory depot]

no but i mean what the heck is a slide exploit

[vocal mason]

but that horizontal movement man

[magic burrow]

oof. repulsion plate is one of those items you don't pick up, but you better pray enemies don't get it in void realms

[ivory depot]

the slide is just so much better

its actually kinda decent

earlygame

[vocal mason]

it serves as a lame-ass double jump too

[ivory depot]

ye

[magic burrow]

yes, now enemies have 5 of them. against cap's shot that's a serious damage reduction

[ivory depot]

yeah

[vocal mason]

I pick up repulsion armor to scrap it

[ivory depot]

why woudlnt you pick it up

[limber cradle]

if you dont use any fire skills on artificer both hands should be blue. thank you for coming to my ted talks

[vocal mason]

well I mean yea

[hearty violet]

https://i.gyazo.com/b93e01664a2e0b60a0caa563e30cd345.mp4

boss easy on stage 10 O.o

[ivory depot]

why does everyone have to cheese the final phase

[hearty violet]

cheese how?

[ivory depot]

you fight that phase with no items, slowly gaining them back as you deal damage

[hearty violet]

oh

[ivory depot]

but its possible to kill before he succs

and thats what you did

[hearty violet]

i guess stage 10 is cheese

[dull ingot]

can u still obliterate

[rough totem]

I mean he cheeses you, so I think it's a fair tactic

[ivory depot]

yes

[bronze turret]

Stage 10?

[gritty bluff]

eys

[ivory depot]

he doesnt cheese you that phase isnt difficult

[rough totem]

he takes all of your items in a game that's built around picking up items, yes he does

[ivory depot]

YOU GET THEM BACK

[rough totem]

SLOWLY, BETTER GET LUCKY AND GET A MOBILITY ITEM FIRST

[hearty violet]

When i tried solo I survived with no items for 15 seconds then for some reason i couldnt side sprint his machine gun and he killed me in 2 seconds

[ivory depot]

YOU DONT NEED MOBILITY TO SURVIVE THAT PHASE

[hearty violet]

cheesed me 😡

[ivory depot]

TO DODGE THE MINIGUN, KEEP MOVING. TO DODGE THE ORBS, JUMP

[rough totem]

SOME CHARACTERS ARE DOWNRIGHT BAD AGAINST HIM, YES YOU DO IF YOU WANT TO SURVIVE

[hearty violet]

i was sprinting sideways

and jumping

[magic burrow]

final vent with cap. this is it. I'm almost done.

[limber cradle]

you guys pick up items? during your runs? that's like inviting someone to steal them. you shouldn't be carrying items on yourself if you dont want someone to take them. you practically asked for it!

[ivory depot]

SO SAY A CHARACTER WITH NO MOBILITY? LIKE CAPTAIN? LIKE HOW I DID THAT!?

[languid yarrow]

you don't need to type in all caps and bold/italics

chill out

[hearty violet]

👀 command 🤔

[rough totem]

you forgot this one

oh dude...

command artifact is cheesing

[ivory depot]

who cares tho

[hearty violet]

picking which items boss get

[heady nebula]

Just be strong enough to one shot the boss before it takes your items

[green bison]

You have feathers, which are a mobility item

[hearty violet]

well shyt

[onyx raven]

The real cheesing is using infinite flight on artificer to dodge all mechanics

[ivory depot]

You have feathers, which are a mobility item
which i didnt get back till midway through the final phase

[vocal mason]

dude his last phase he is weaksauce

[ivory depot]

^ EXACTLY

[vocal mason]

you don't need items to dodge him

[ivory depot]

you are weak and so is he

[vocal mason]

All you need to do is loop for 20 stages and one shot him

[magic burrow]

yes. I beat the void realms with cap!

[rough totem]

except when certain items proc and he crits and one shots you

[ivory depot]

run in circles and the minigun rarely hits you (and it deals like 15 dmg), and jump when the orbs are near
good job you just beat the final phase

[ruby stone]

Yeah

[onyx raven]

But man if you have some sorta bleed build going on you’re screwed if you get hit once

[hearty violet]

idk his machinegun killed me in 2 seconds while side sprinting <.< maybe he had slow. Did you get hit by his machine gun?

[ivory depot]

i occasionally get clipped by a few bullets but its not that dangerous

[ruby stone]

I've tried mithrix twice in multiplayer on drizzle and both times his final phase just one shot us all within 20 seconds

[ivory depot]

maybe its cause i never get fully caught in it, its just a few hits

[hearty violet]

i see

[onyx raven]

I mean I was full on side sprinting plus blinking with huntress but he still clipped me and one shot

Crit plus bleed hurts

[hearty violet]

depends on what items you have i guess

[ruby stone]

Yeah, there's something seriously broken about the way his final phase works

[rough totem]

I agree, and also think it flies in the face of the core concept of the game

[ruby stone]

I think it's cool but man it kinda just deletes you sometimes no matter what

[hearty violet]

@ivory depot where you got hit and took a lil dmg, we got one shot by that clip 😄

[ivory depot]

i have never had him one shot me or instantly end the fight.
maybe im just extremely lucky, but i dont know. ive never had anything remotely like that happen.

[onyx raven]

You just have to whale on him before he takes the items

[odd pawn]

Ive killed him before he stood up, shot him till i got all my items back, and once on monsoon it seemed like i wasnt getting items back and then got one shot

[onyx raven]

I mean my daggers were 100% chance to bleed so :/

[ruby stone]

I've had it happen in my only 2 attempts to my entire party on drizzle

[hearty violet]

he proc'd kajaro's on me and i died instantly final phase

[onyx raven]

I got him to 5k out of like 60k by shooting him during his taking items phase

[green bison]

I don't even understand why killing him as he is taking your items is really "cheesing," the game specifically allows this as his health bar conveniently comes back as he is grabbing your items. Why wouldn't you kill him then. If they developers really didn't want you killing him then, then they would have kept his health bar missing.

[onyx raven]

Oh yup that’d do it, kajaro plus runalds even worse

[rough totem]

see, that's the thing that really gets to me. Unless you're playing with command on, your build is largely randomized. Sure, there are ways to mitigate the randomness to a certain end, but that's never been what Risk of Rain was about. It's also just plain not fun having to go around being like "mmm, this item is great now but is going to destroy me for the boss phase."

[ruby stone]

Honestly we thought that while gearing up

I genuinely have no clue what caused him to delete all 3 of us

[ivory depot]

i think maybe a good rework is you do lose all your items, but he himself doesnt take them... maybe into something like a bubble, and as you damage him it leaks out more and more as his power wanes?

[onyx raven]

It’s up to the player really, if they want a mega challenge or a challenge with about half the hp. It’s like beating calamity Ganon with or without the divine beasts (if you’ve played BotW)

[hearty violet]

the strat is prob to burst, then if you cant finish him use the walls as cover while trying to shoot him until you get your op items back

[ivory depot]

him having the items himself seems like its causing one shots, although ive never experienced it myself

so just you dont have the items but neither does he

[rough totem]

it's something to do with critical hits

it nullifies one shot protection somehow. I don't know the specifics, but someone else here did the math and it checked out

[onyx raven]

Also has anyone tested out recycler and infinitely rerolling reds at a scrapper?

Not sure if it can be done but it may be possible

[hearty violet]

you can recycle scrap? o.o

[ivory depot]

i may have to test that lel

[onyx raven]

I haven’t tested yet, but it sounds about right

[north wind]

what did they do to fix comedy island softlock?

[onyx raven]

Then if you don’t like the red, pop it back in and recycle again

[bright palm]

what was the doll change they made?

[rough totem]

it no longer destroys your processor and framerate, lol

[ivory depot]

basically if you fall off the edge you no longer get put on the island i think

[austere anvil]

Why doesnt osp protect from fall damage

[onyx raven]

Sorry if this is all wrong, just theorycrafting items here 😛

[bright palm]

but did they limit the number you can throw out?

[ivory depot]

no im pretty sure catalyst no longer works with the doll

i... think.

[bright palm]

that would be a reasonable change

[ivory depot]

and a good one at that

[rough totem]

it does kind of feel like it's directly opposed to the game's logic though

[ivory depot]

the final boss or the change?

[rough totem]

the change to the doll

[limber cradle]

i heard they just changed it to a max of 3 dolls at a time

[rough totem]

oh, so it still works?

alright cool.

[limber cradle]

im not sure tho